/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no one says this
/thread

>>7844736
>more OkaKoro denial

>>7844736
Just ship whatever you want as long as you don’t push it upon others

>>7844736
I like your bait but sadly, wrong board.

>>7844736
The funny thing about Japanese fujos is that they actually have an awareness that what they like is a fantasy. The common motto among fujos is, in fact, "BL is fantasy", used as almost a warcry when their work is criticized as unrealistic. Because BL is viewed as abnormal from both within the subculture and outside it, they hide it from main tags (when it's a secondary work) so as to not attract controversy. On NND it's taboo to mention any male/male couplings outside of designated fujo videos.
But yuri doesn't have this stigma attached. It's mainstream. It's pushed everywhere and no content of it is quarantined. This makes it seem more "real" in a sense. And /u/schizos as a result of this are a lot more emboldened. Even on this board this can be seen, with homoposting been hidden behind spoiler tags in the Nijimale thread and yuriposting being a board staple posted everywhere.
It's just interesting.

lol my oshi is clearly a lesbian who is disgusted by dick (except for mine of course)

>>7844736
>Just because they talk to each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutzeNeYVHs

>>7844736
I'm starting to think this falseflagging faggot actually does resemble 35ps on this website

There are only two lesbians in Hololive. Good luck finding who they are.

>>7844909
Yuri is a fantasy as well and has nothing to do with disgusting western 3DPD or /co/shit. It should be treated as no less of an ideal rather than real.

I know two girls that french kissed each other in college during a party, and they are now married to their own husbands.

Guys don't kiss their bros for fun?

>>7845037
Yeah they're me and Matsuri. I was the hand (female) that opened her (female) door. Sorry for causing confusion.

>>7844736
They admitted they play things up for the characters.
The character may or may not be a lesbian but the person behind the account isn’t.
/vt/ is so retarded it thinks the person behind the account is the same as the vtuber.

>>7845037
OkaKoro. That was easy.

All holos are lesbians until proven to be bisexual.

>>7845089
>the person behind the account [wishful thinking]
Lol guys like you are the reason why they don't have a taste for men.

>>7844782
Newfagchama, you can’t /thread yourself

>>7844736

>>7844782
lurk more.

>>7845181
>LGBBQ
Nope. Fuck this shit.

>>7845181

Fujos and /u/fags of /vt/ should call a truce. We're all enjoying 妄想 so why fight?

*Ahem*
Official list of straight holos:


Thank you for your attention.

>>7845326
The only people fighting are the self-inserters vs the homo-likers, really. Maybe the "I just watch vtubers for entertainment" crowd too.

>>7845342
Towa.

>>7845326
>妄想
hmm that's kinda... pathetic. I won't judge, but please come back when you are enjoying real things like the rest of us instead of needing to make it up in your mind.

>>7845349
Yuri is part of my entertainment.

>>7844909
I don't think I've met an american fujo that didn't settle into the same stuff mindset their late teens, early 20s. They're all pretty normal and stick to discords/twitter circles where they all hang out. They all seem weirdly polite and friendly even compared to normie women.

>>7845433
What is "real"?
Are vtubers real because we all perceive them and can affirm them as "existing" in a sense? Or is it what happens in the 3D world, specifically?

>>7844782
Based

>>7845433
Just give Marine the fucking threesome already, they both keep flirting and letting her get too close.

>>7844736
Don't ever shitpost with my oshi ever again

>>7845349
>Maybe the "I just watch vtubers for entertainment" crowd too.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that's like 90% of the entire fanbase, JPchubba watchers included.

>>7845443
Shippers tend to be pretty rabid (if you think this place is bad, you haven't seen 5ch), so even if there's no outside pressure to do so sticking to small circles that share your interests is generally the best.

>>7845433

>>7845349
I self insert, homo ship, AND watch vtubers for entertainment

>>7845495
Not a bad thing, but people who don't have a strong attraction to vtubers tend to be pretty vocal in their putting down of people who do. So there's some conflict there.

>>7845467
Real, as in not needing to over-interpret their interactions to make up a narrative you enjoy. It's directly delivered to you.

What happens in the 3D world is personal and largely unknowable, but it's at least safe to assume they enjoy what they do when they pretend to be anime girls.

>>7845584
That's fair.

>>7845638
>Real, as in not needing to over-interpret their interactions to make up a narrative you enjoy
When it comes to fanworks there will always be some degree of narrative creation. And coupling is all about fanworks, and imagining what lies beyond what you're told. I mean that image you uploaded, that didn't happen. It's fantasy. You can say "well, it COULD happen!" but it still didn't. So I think it's pointless to argue over which imaginary creations have more weight.

>>7845433
The niji men and some of the holostars bait about this hard. It think it just gets less attention because male homo isn't popular with everyone but /u/ content most people will cheer on.

>>7845666
Oh no. Anon be strong. Do not be dazzled by their logical gymnastics. There is a reason they have their own board.

>>7845788
It gets less attention because if you talk about it in the generals people feel weirded out

>>7844736
Yes. Yurishitters are literally just genderbent fujos. Why did it take you this long to figure it out?

>>7845720
Anon... That image is literally a word by word copy of their twitter interaction, just picturised.

>>7845790
Listen, dude. I've been here for too long. I am starved for anything resembling a rational explanation for stuff like that. My power is waning...

>>7845923
Stop replying to yourself you falseflagging retard

>>7845931
I checked after I made the post... Embarrassing, I stand corrected. But my point about fanworks and coupling still stands. As long as you imagine what lies beyond their official interactions, there's some degree of fantasy involved.

>>7845954
(you)

>>7845923
Yurishitters are fujos that don't get bullied enough while fujos keep to themselves

>>7846073
They only keep to themselves when you do not incite their rage. Then they're as insane as any women.

>>7846073
Holomems are all yurishitters. Do you want to bully the holos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_vg8gg5hs

>>7844736
Isn't it in a way appropriate that the kind of people who would become talking anime characters on youtube are lonely old spinsters who turned gay out of desperation?

>>7846220
Poor Kanata is alone now. Unless they actually live together, which I heavily doubt for multiple reasons.

>>7846342
anonchama... your info reps...

>>7844736
As a yurifag. I also love yaoi.
All vtubers are homo.

Except Matsuri.

>>7846342
"Tell me you don't watch Kanata while not telling me you don't watch Kanata"

>>7846342
...what?

>>7844782
>fujos are so retarded
I say this

>>7845874
That's what I mean. With the /u/ people excuse it and encourage it, with male homo baiting the majority of fans will be uncomfortable on some level.

>>7845931
I hope they die

>>7845473
And let us watch damnit!

>>7847134
There's the flipside though.
Fujos aren't pussy faggots about their fetish, if they ship boys them boys be fucking.
Yurifags are split into like at least 3 factions. The faggot purityfags who just want "pure" yuri, which is just CGDCT without any men around, which isn't fucking yuri no matter how much they want to cry subtext. People into porn, which is what the fujos would normally be doing. And then you have romancefags who just want lesbians in relationships, which is where softcore fujos would fall, aka BL.

The first group however is the largest and most vocal. The CGDCTfags ruin yuri and shove it everywhere because it's not real yuri.
Romance and porn yurifags have specific wants and desires. And they usually read the content thats directly aimed at them. Though romancefags dabble in shipping too, it's shipping not acting like every anime is canon yuri.

Yes it's important to me and purityfags ruined /u/ right alongside tranny apologist mods.

>>7847312
Does /u/ have a large amount of trannies on the board?

Any language expert here? >>7846220
>Do you want to bully the holos
>Are you saying you want to bully the holos
Which sounds better in the context? Also, any psychologists here can tell me why I'm suddenly obsessed with this kind of problems?

>>7847312
What ruined /u/ were the tumblrtards enabled by westernshit and even 3DPD when you know how much cancer those are infested with. The only time I've seen actual retards that hate and want all male characters or heterosexuality gone is in /a/ yuri threads. I want the porn AND romance.

>>7847387
Soft trannies / role-playing men being giant faggots.
But it's more that mods specifically defend and ban anyone who calls transhit out. Which I understand if you're going full /v/ is a problem. But genderbender is not fucking yuri. If youre a God damn man turned into a woman it's not fucking yuri, it's transshit.
And mods shove that shit in the God damn sticky and ban anyone who calls it out for bullshit.

Fuck /u/ God damnit.

>>7847458
I'm fine with westernshit desu. It has varying scales of good. Some of it can be decent and at least people aren't posting the token lesbo comics which always annoy me because theyre always bi anyways.
I'd take 100 western threads over
>no guys this horse anime is totally yuri!
>just ignore the generic male self insert that's an obvious harem lead

>>7847312
>>7847458
/u/ sounds like cancer but at least it isn't /y/ where the average anon's age is 14, begging for sauce and blogposting

>>7845443
>normal
Fujos are crazy bitches that always shove their ships into your fucking face if you go into the fandom of the anime/manga. The worse thing is if you invalidate their ship, they'll call you homophobic, and calls you blind if you don't see the chemistry between the character they're shipping even though one of the character is confirmed straight and the character they're shipping is barely talking, the popular example are deku(bnha) and kaneki(TG) the author of Tokyo Ghoul got flammed just because kaneki is fucking(literally) touka and it's implied from the start that kaneki loves touka therefore straight, and the fujos got mad because their delusional ship sinked and calls the author homopobhic, sorry for the rant. God i hate fujos so much it's fucking unreal

>>7847641
/y/ is just a porn dump of a board, not much conversation to be had there period
Which is a good thing, arguing over pornography is fucking autistic

>>7846220
Yes I'd love to bully the holos actually but in a different way that I'd like to bully yurishitters that post here on 4chan
They're all no better than fujos, if anything fujos are slightly better because they don't try raining on other people's parades as actively as they do
I have nothing against yuri by itself btw /u/schizos are just obnoxious

>>7847682
notice that this is all shit western fujos do. while nip fujos are also huge bitches, they stay in their own corner and curate their circle and social media feeds so they don't have to even look at shit they dislike.

>>7847534
/co/shit and LIVE ACTION 3DPD shit both made by muritards don't belong in the same fucking space as yuri, simple as that.

>>7847682
Those are western Twitter trannies, not fujos. Twitter trannies openly hate fujos because they "fetishize" gay men. In Japanese fujo circles it's taboo to even make your BL fanwork visible to official staff of a manga, let alone forcing it on official staff. It's why they never use normal tags on Pixiv. It's partially a legal worry thing (BL is controversial by nature and nobody wants a company to ban BL fanworks outright if they feel it misrepresents their brand) and partially because they don't want to get attacked by people who dislike it. Anybody who does the behavior you're describing in Japanese BL circles would be fucking disowned and have Twitter accounts made by 5channers to guilt trip and harass them. I've seen it happen for less.

>>7847715
That's because homos are still men, their board is obviously straight to the point no chit chat.

>>7847787
Sounds like a personal problem bro. I just like lesbians.

>>7847312
>The CGDCTfags ruin yuri and shove it everywhere because it's not real yuri
I heard you the first time you told me you were an ignorant we*terncuck who is completely unaware of what yuri actually means and who unironically uses the word "yuribait".

There is no such thing as subtext or yuribait. Those terms are fabricated and invented by the western anime community who, due to their barbaric nature, could not comprehend pure love, the true essence of yuri. They thought of human relationships as only sex and breeding, and refused to the acknowledge yuri as anything more than a female counterpart of heterosexual relationship. But no, yuri is not what you think it is. Yuri is pure love - rational love - that manifests itself in the form of what we call romantic friendship. The secular definition of "couple" does not need to apply here.

You don't restrain them with the human concept of romantic love or friendship. You don't restrain them with so-called sexuality. Yuri is the most ideal form of love, the AGAPE, as defined by God. I love you because you are a delicate creation; it's simple, and yet also the most selfless and beautiful.

>>7847534
/co/shit, especially calarts, and LIVE ACTION 3DPD shit both made by twitter muritards does not belong in the same fucking space as yuri with its open femininity and even sexual titillation if the author feels like along with lack of any anti-male or other political cancer, topped off by what it invites while pushing smaller series off a board.

If we all agree spaces for yuri and yaoi discussion suck why don't both sides shake hands and co exist on this board?

>>7848113
Fujos are still a minority on this board, wait for NijiEN males to take off, then you'll be forced to co-exist or fight to the death

>>7847715
>>7847947
Neither of you have been to neo /y/ then, which is good because half of the threads are just bitching about anything shota like or an anon once again going into a thread full of things they dont like and getting upset.

Oh, gods, you literally fucking caused that exact kind of retard to appear for shitting on yuribait. >>7848037

>>7848037
Kill yourself.

>>7848149
I've been on there plenty, but I only look at manly men threads which probably has something to do with the lack of retarded drama
The global ban against loli/shota should just be lifted so all of the moralfags can get filtered already

>>7848266
>the barbaric westerner is enraged for he cannot understand
Pity.

>>7848590
I'm japanese and gay.
Kill yourself faggot. You ruin yuri.

>>7848678
Your yuri is an ideal
Here, yuri is an act
cause yuri sells

>>7848142
But I'm a fudanshi...

>>7848776
Yuri isn't an ideal.
It's 2 girls dating or fucking. Shit isn't complex. There's no 4D chess and mindgames of reading subtext and whether or not a salamander means she's gay.
2 girls go chuu? It's yuri that's all it is.

>>7848874
based brother

>>7848678
Based if grill.

>>7848924
Based and rationalpilled

>>7848874
Then for now you must kneel to your /u/schizo overlords and accept that you are a minority.

>>7847682
The triggered fujo guy is back.

It's like >>7847842 said. I've seen lgbtqa+ circles do this because they associate it with queer baiting and it's a moral issue for them but fujos stick to a corner and find others with similar interests since lgbtqa+ groups attack them as well even in english speaking twitter and kind of drove them to the same practices. All the shota fujos hang out in small circles, all the doujin/manga ones hang out in small circles, all the ones that like old men, etc etc.

>>7848678
The only thing I ruined is your shallow interpretation of yuri. Your yuri is no different than hetero or yaoi. It may please your eyes and make your monkey brain release some dolphins, but it's still animalistic in nature. I would suggest you look for something higher, but then again if everyone could understand it the world wouldn't be what it is now.
>>7848776
Act or not is really not for you to say. Also, someone here explain why yuri doesn't sell at all because I'm bored of talking to newfags.

>>7849062
Do you actually believe what you're writing, that there's any form of inherent purity in smelly gross 3D women LARPing as anime girls and pretending to fondle each other for male viewers' enjoyment?

>>7849062
C'mon anon, you visiting a board that questions your most basic beliefs and throws a fit when not everyone agrees with your opinion?
Either Go back or Lurk more.

>>7849156
God's spirit is within you, anon, even if it's just for a second you could still feel something of a divine design. Anyhow, we were just talking about yuri in anime, but vtubers can also resemble that sometimes. They don't need to do it for views or male gaze because yuri NEVER sells. They could just follow their feelings and know for a second, when they were pretending to be anime girls, a taste of freedom. Yes, yuri is freedom. You won't understand it if you don't think, and this discussion is already pointless.
>>7849241
>questions your most basic beliefs
Where? I only see one guy complaining about "yuribait" that ruins his "real yuri". Doesn't matter either way.

lesbians can finger each other and stay as friends

>>7849045
that post is my first post about fujo in this fucking site, have you ever >think that, maybe just maybe there is more than 1 person that is angry at fujos?

>>7849920
You can finger your friends and it's all joy and laughter. But you finger your mom...

>>7844736
Holofags are as bad as fujos, makes sense.

>>7845963
The thing is, when you said 妄想 you were implying some inherent fabricating nature of yuri and yaoi works, whilst your logic applies to any form of relationship in fictions, including those in 3D soap operas. You are only demeaning your interest and trying to drag others along with it.

>>7850217
Go away, Chris. I thought you were in jail by now.

>>7850148
Okay, you just type exactly like and are outwardly as anguished as the autist that has a mental break down over Marine being a fujo every twelve hours.

>>7850916
Marine is a good one.

>>7849757
Stop posting. There is nothing spiritual about yuri. You have brain damage.

>>7851763
"Nooo your wrroonng! Uuuree is spritual!

...Yes I do have dain bramage, how did u know?"

>>7851974
Oh god you're regressing already? You're not much fun in discussions huh. Add a wojack post there for the full experience

>>7850916
isn't that marineschizo or something? I don't care if marine is a fujo

>>7852249
I feel like you were talking to a different anon, dude. I'm confused, which anon did you think I was? cause I was pretty sure I was shittalking the "Yuri is spiritual" guy

You see, anon, love between males does not exist, a mental illness is required for similar behavior, but for females love naturally exists both towards men and towards other females, it's just a matter of which gets them aroused at any given moment.

>>7849062
Yrui does sell a lot. Why do you think anime companies with heter men do so many CGDCT series you dumb.
Have you searched how often does lesbian porn get searched by men in porn websites?

>>7844782
Fpbp, trash bait op

>>7852436
Pretty sure it was for this
>7849062
Guess it's lost in translation

>>7852504
/thread

>>7852504
Gimme this fucking manga.

>>7852504
Wow! I read this on the internet, so it must be true!

>>7844736
Okakoro does more than just talking with each other.

>>7844736
based /u/tranny bullier

>>7848037
agape doesn't include sex

>>7845004
Kissing your homies goodnight is not gay

>>7844782
Fpbp