/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>78326592
Stop grooming indies you chuds.

>>78326592
who?

Woman moment

>>78326592
Their entire business model lies in creating parasocial links with their audiences. The problem is they often hate their audiences, which leads to menhera meltdowns.

With that said, no clue who this is.

God i love menheras, they make me feel like I’m well put together

>>78326629
No.

>>78326592
It sounds like she's talking about male vtubers she's collabed with trying to get in her pants rather than her audience

>her main account bio
She's also posted about someone following her in their car supposedly. Pretty sure she's just fishing for engagement like many of these types of indies. Insufferable cunts who only got into vtubing because they thought they'd be able to ride the money train, only to realise that you still need actual talent as a streamer to be even mildly successful - and so resort to drama baiting on twitter.

she made her bed, now she has to lie on it

Ten minutes after this thread was created she posts a reply to the OP pic asking people to follow her main account and twitch channel.

Hello Tori - buy an ad.

>>78326987
ew

>>78326592
Yes. My ex-oshi encouraged me to gosling for her, but of course did not reciprocate.

>>78326987

Don't know the full context but she might have just interacted with groomer sex pest male vtubers

>>78326592
Probably talking about sexpest male vtubers

>>78326592
comedy

>>78326987
Trannies cost themselves a lot of goodwill by embracing all of this genderfluid bullshit into their community.

>>78327494
Well yeah wouldn't make sense for viewers

>>78326873
Sounds like that to me too. Usually you don't refer to audience members as personal individual friends, but maybe 2views do.

>>78326987
The worst part of it is the "Twitchcon San Diego 2024" bit, honestly.

I think half of male vtubers are viewers who got so parasocial they became a vtuber just to try and hit on their oshi/easy menhera women

>>78326592
The only reason a guy would be friends with a woman is either to fuck her or her friends. It's not that complicated to understand guys. 100% of what men do in their lives is all for the sake of sex and it might only change slightly when they become fathers. If he's not a piece of shit then his children would become the priority and not sex.

>>78326592
>people I considered friends
>parasocial
I'm genuinely confused what she meant by this.

>>78328486
Online friendship is parasocial

>>78326592
A whore with a bf who wants money

>>78328474
The only reason I play niche ASCII games for hours at a time in a dark room is because I KNOW it'll get me pussy at some point

>>78329260
Keep grinding, King

>>78326592
It sounds like her friends are trash and she's ditching them in favor of her viewers. Pretty based if so.

>>78328474
Wash your vag.

>>78326592
>I demand you love me
>Gets loved.
>No, not like that.
Why do these creatures have rights again?

>>78326592
>parasocial
This word is still abused almost two years later, huh

>>78326592
It sounds like she rejected people who wanted to be in a relationship with her and now she's upset because these people don't want to be just friends (entertain her)

>>78328474
Not true. I'm not a father but I'm nearing my 40s and my sex drive isn't the same not to count that my dick hurts if I get erections that last too long. Instead I just wanna talk with a girl and be friends and hear their voice and feel comfort...

>>78330906
Yes. Many such cases.

>>78327494
>Literally talks about viewers
>"MALE VTUBERS OBVIOUSLY"
You are so butthurt over people who can actually engage with your oshi it's hilarious.

>>78331060
>people I considered friends and opened up to
???

>>78330906
It sounds like she's making shit up for engagement.

I hate women so much it's unreal

>>78327790
Trannies are all just like this. The people that really cost themselves a lot of goodwill are gays for embracing them into LGB

>>78326592
0 interest, buy an ad

>>78326592
Yes, and it's retarded. Not even vtubers, but the whole fucking streaming industry is built on parasocial relationships. So when it became trendy to scorn parasocial viewers, it was a strange phenomenon, as there seemed to be zero self awareness. You don't even need to be gfe or bfe to cater to parasocial shit. Simply interacting with chat will do it. Think about what the point of a chatting stream is. There is none besides letting chat see into your life more, or conversing with them more. Remembering regulars, making discords, doing shit your viewers tell you to do for money. All of this contributes. Streamers WANT their viewers to care about them, at least to a certain degree, and they're 100% lying if they say otherwise.
It's even dumber if they do actually engage in gfe or bfe shit, even jokingly, and then act surprised when their viewers reach that level of parasocial.
The trend of calling out parasocial relationships has by far been the most retarded development with the western vtuber industry.

>>78331386
Y-you do know a lot of indie vtubers have viewers who are actually friends too because a lot are imports from their irl/pl..right? You're too obsessed with male vtubers.

>>78333276
You're the one who said
>who can actually engage with your oshi
If it applies to viewers too what does your post mean? The tweet doesn't specify either way so the anon was making a guess and you got butthurt.

>>78326689
I disagree, I think that the fanbase wants to believe this to be the case because they want to justify their unhealthy obsessions instead of admitting it's fucking creepy and that they have no life outside of their bedrooms.

>>78326592
The biggest example I can think of is Yuko Yurei. Her fans were fairly normal at the start and then she started encouraging them to get closer to her. She actually said on multiple occasions that she wanted her fans to be obsessed over her. Her fans obliged her requests. Then she started to lie about dumb shit. Her most obsessed fans that she so lovingly wanted noticed her starting to lie. She had her little scandal and did a complete 180 essentially blaming her fans. She is now back to doing the same shit on Rye with going as far as to have IRL meetups

>>78326592
It's only a problem when the money stops
(just like real life)

>>78326629
make me

>>78331817
My brother isn't. He is the spitting image of the one of the left. Dude just wants to grill and is far more successful and all-around well-adjusted than myself. The downfall of the trans community was when they muscled out transmedicalism to embrace social constructivist pseudoscience.

>>78326592
Ah yes, the monolith "vtubers"

>>78326987
>Gender fluid

>>78328474
don't flatter yourself

>>78326592
Yes.

>>78334122
liking a streamer is inherently parasocial, anon. just because you don't believe you're dating your oshi doesn't mean it's not parasocial.
no one would be watching the same person do mundane things for hours every day if they didn't feel some sort of connection to them. and (indie grooming aside) you can't be in an actual relationship with someone whose videos you watch, so it's parasocial by default.

>>78326592
?

>>78326592
>love me!
>no, not like that!

>>78328474
i used to think like this until i had my first ex girlfriend. you can stay friends but absolutely never want to do anything with them romantically ever again

>>78326592
This sounds like Kiara, not gonna lie. She gets super parasocial with her chat, talks about wanting to marry them and whatnot. Knows and specifically remembers those who are always around.

Yet the moment any of them even remotely tries to get 'close' to her off stream? Suddenly it's 'hello, police?! I need help!'. And I'm not even talking about stalking or creepy shit. Just trying to be a friend. She's talked about not wanting to expand her friend group cause she's scared all the while she's basically unironically lusting over her chat. She's more emotionally attached to her audience than her audience is towards her.

It's like, damn girl, what do you actually want? Is she hoping that one of her regulars is actually a 6 foot tall, gorgeous hunk of man meat with a 7 figure job that'll suddenly 'appear' before her and sweep her off her feet?

>>78335213
She cut off her tits yet?

>>78335213
You also have to realize, who goes to social media every day? who becomes a vtuver?
people who try to find a connection (indies) and social leeches.
which of the 2 is most likly to end up in drama after drama?
the loud mainority of every group.
at the same time /here/ as a site isnt just Pol

>>78348213
You dense retard.
Chat = safe because it's more of an ideal than something real. The fact that there's an unbreachable distance is the whole point!

>>78334168
>Then she started to lie about dumb shit. Her most obsessed fans that she so lovingly wanted noticed her starting to lie. She had her little scandal and did a complete 180 essentially blaming her fans.
all of this is bullshit btw, yuko/rye didn't lie about anything

>>78328474
You're either a normalfag or a failed one. Go back to your sex and leave us be.

>>78326987
>LGBTQHDBF+×÷

Everytime...

Men and women can't be friends. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

>>78326592
Attempting to start an actual relationship isn't "parasocial". A parasocial friend is a fucking oxymoron. God I hate internet addled buzzword obsessed retards.

>>78331817
>THERE ARE TOTALLY GOOD GAYS GUYS I SWEAR
faggot

>>78328474
I've got a few female friends and I've only wanted to fuck one of them. I don't know why people think like this.

>>78348701
>mainority
Not sure if spelling mistake or pun

>>78353933
>I don't know why people think like this.
Desperation, or narcissism.
t. desperate guy

>>78353933
>>78354505
it's propinquity. the more fun times you spend with a person the more likely you fall in love with them, it's not magic. however if you spend time with many different people this is diluted between them, so it's lonely (or desperate) people that can't have friends of the opposite sex.

>>78326987
>gender-fluid fem leaning
Absolutely fucking disgusting

This is probably the type of person who talks about people not liking them because they have a boyfriend or girlfriend But then post a meme of if you’d rather fuck them or have a PS5.

>>78326629
Why?

>>78326592
>Are vtubers causing their own parasocial issues?
Truly it's always women's own fault mashallah

>>78326987
>less followers than following
The only person supposedly stalking xer is xem own shadow

>>78326592
Maybe to an extent but the screencap you posted is a cancerous argument. You can't hold a throw away twitter post like that to the standard of enticing a serious parasocial response. Not unless you want to live on an internet where you literally cannot say anything or joke around, worse than anyone thinks it is like today.

>>78327790
But they don't. That's why you have slurs like truscum and transmedicalists to disparage and direct hate towards those transgender people that claim it's a medical condition as opposed to a funny and quirky lifestyle choice. That's why the latter group reports and flags the former group for hate speech just for existing.

>>78328474
Women already know this, woman's goal in life is to monetize men wanting to have sex with her. The more betas who orbit thinking they have a chance, the better for her.