/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

>>7814264
>Kiara comback zatsu 6k and minecraft
>Irys 1 month anniversary 5.5k
Kiara's having a rough week, but let's see if her artist gartic phone now can salvage it. Irys streamed at like 6am PST/ 9am EST for that stream, but idk if that's a reason for why it did so poorly. She usually gets better numbers streaming at 8pm PST/11pm EST.

>Bloodstained 4k
I think everyone knew bloodstained was going to do poorly. The first ep only got 8k and these type of playthroughs only get lower over time. Kino game choice, but it's not the type of game that gets many viewers.

>Ame Sonic
She got 7k playing Sonic, which is around what she gets playing platformers like Mario. Amelia's fanbase would much rather watch her play Apex or Minecraft, which she did switch to for the last 30 mins, but not before reading superchats for 15 mins and culling her viewcount. That's the dip in the middle.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UhG_BItojWg

What was wrong with Gura's 24k minecraft tho? That's pretty normal for Gura Minecraft. If you're referring to the Elytra stream, she was streaming with Ame.

【GARTIC PHONE】ALL STAR ARTIST EDITION ft. SPECIAL GUESTS!
will Kiara get more decent numbers with this clickbaity title? Seems to be working for her so far

>>7814711
Gura Minecraft had upalupa buff.

>>7814711
>>7814852
Please don't reset the timeloop in the start of the thread. Post today's numbers, yesterday's numbers and leave the timeloop for after 300

>>7814805
She got 12k last week doing the same idea. Not sure if her 2nd go at it will bring the same numbers.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/GMTVAixLdck

Koshien preview at 55k rn. I shouldn't be surprised, but the hype for the next 3 days is real.

>>7814852
the fuck are you talking about, gura wasn't gacha-breeding them for an ultra rare color

>>7814852
Oh you're retarded. My bad.
Btw there's a difference between a Axolotl breeding stream and one that clearly says Axolotl TUBE building lol.

>>7814852
It's final episode(3000+) with Coco buff. Gura just bred 2.
I think she might not finish this unless off-screen

>Astel, Bora Nun & Shirayuki Reid collabing
TRIBALISTS BTFO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dLkCP4lY8

Shibuya Hal once again being the GREAT UNITER!

In less than 3 months, Marine will overtake Pekora

holy shit lamy's gachikoi is fucking intense, i have never seen a merch drop on booth instantly got 1400+ likes after the stream ends

>>7815204
It's not impossible but the same math was made to imply Ollie would catch up to Moona (and even beat her to 1M) but long term sub trends for Holos is hard to gauge.

All it takes is one "Eekum bokum" moment and all of a sudden it's all open for anyone

>>7815286
Lamy is just interactive "live action" unscripted Senko San
https://files.catbox.moe/dkvyio.mp4

58k for Koshien preview now. Honestly, I'm impressed by how much content they can squeeze out of this event. There's dozens of hours of gameplay, which got made into hours of highlights. The commentator Nijis then commentate over the highlights and analyze teams for even more content. I wouldn't be surprised if half the views Niji got in the past 3 weeks are Koshien related.

>>7815204
marine was full of special events, you should probably wait a bit to make a conclusion like that

>>7815368
that's a good comparison, i still prefer fox cunny though

>>7815376
So this year streams are all in Niji main channel, not individual channel?

>>7815204
Which is more impressive? A vampire getting 50k subs in a month or a boomer pirate getting 100k subs in a month. As far as I know, both of them had stellar performances recently.

>>7815525
Equal

Kson is the master of superchat baiting. Everyone is superchatting so that they could cover her face.

>>7815065
Is Niji so desperate that they're trying to leech Holostars now? That's just sad.

>>7815525
Actually Kuzuha has gotten 90k in the past 30 days so he's really close to Marine. Obviously very very special circumstances happened for Kuzuha while Marine just had a busier than usual month. No niji has ever experienced this level of sub boost.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g

>>7815499
Yea it's all going to be on the main channel. RIP Kuzushitposter can't use the 200k Koshien final in a few days to shitpost since it won't be on his channel.

>>7815376
Maimoto is a supergenius for thinking this up. This is why he's the real king instead of that gay vampire who never does anything for the company.

Pekora 14k on twitch. Gura btfo kek

>>7815586
I'll never understand ATM's way of thinking

>>7815640
Oh my mistake it was 90k. I could've sworn that he was 900k in mid july, but he reached that at the end of July? Wtf

>>7815710
KEK KICK KOOK KEK KOCK

While nobody was paying attention Fubuki was getting 24k opening Pokemon packs

WTF is with nips and gacha?

>>7815845
It's plastic crack

>>7815845
Yes, just look at Masturi's 5M yen APEX gacha stream.

>>7815845
Not a lot of real gambling allowed in Japan.

Pretty sure Pekora could earn more if she put up a community post on top of a tweet. She's stuck at 17k at the moment.

>>7815586
so why wouldn't cover let her do these sort of stream?
Is funeral -> dead people > offensive to people while in a pandemic?
or is it maybe more of a general distrust that prevents approval if it shows even a slight slight potential of trouble.

>>7815845
In the meantime, I think Korone is playing bingo on stream. Holohags feelin the gambling itch today.

>>7815977
so i guess the numbers pre "viewerbug" is actually youtube displaying the wrong numbers then? now it's kinda comparable seeing pekora's twitch numbers and her YT numbers

>>7815586
>Leaves because muh creative freedom
>This is probaly the most creative she has been since she left Hololive...which is not saying much
>Rrats say is because she was forced to quit by company
>She hasn't lashed out on Hololive
So why she left again...outside bug spam?

is there any site tracking pekora's twitch numbers?

>>7816107
I don't know, go ask her

>>7816015
it's not good for idols to openly bait superchats anon. And doing it that way is kind of in poor taste

Tough slot now with each some streamerers playing for their own audience
>Haachama comfy Minecraft
>Botan FPS
>Fubuki: gacha
>Korone: g-gacha?
>Subaru and Moona: collab
>Kiara: collab with herself
>Flare: horror
I wouldn't be surprised if many if not most of those fail to get 10k because each of them will be holding their own audience to the end

>>7816015
Milking the audience for superchats is frowned upon.

>>7816155
So Kson...why you left?

>>7816015
>>7816107
Complain about that outside of numbers. All I'm saying is that the rfa stream was kino af and the funeral followup was a funny bit

>>7814805
Cmon kfp at least make it 10k

>>7816107
bug spam was holding everybody else down for collabs and sponsors. But of course, she can never admit it

>>7816143
https://twitchtracker.com/usadapekora_hololive

>>7816245
If that's really the reason it's a stupid reason to quit though because the bugmen just moved onto other holos

>>7816015
There's a diff between filling a fishbowl with superchats and filling a funeral portrait with superchats. Considering Coco once made a suicide forest joke with Kanata during Asacoco and Cover freaked out, I'll assume they don't like this kind of humor. It's also kinda bad taste.

>>7816107
Anon this just a zatsudon and as coco she already did a stream where she killed all her viewers literality and brought them back with dragon balls.

>>7816247
>https://twitchtracker.com/usadapekora_hololive
it's all zeros for me

>>7816143
>>7816247
Twitch audience just seem small.
>pic related
Even at 17.7k Pekora is in the Top10 there right now.

She announced one hour prior on Twitter (and only on Twitter, it seems) that her stream would be on Twitch, people relying on notifications would never know about it

>>7816107
she really can't do much about it, she don't have friends to bounce with and collab now.

Tbh, I think streaming on Twitch will be a detriment for Pekora numbers wise. Multiple reasons but only those that follow her social media will know that she will stream on twitch. It's not tracked by Holodex so less exposure then normally.
She will not get any boost from those watching other chuubas on youtube who might swap over.

She is also streaming at bad times for a EU/NA audience, which is the primary audience on twitch.

She will get a decent number, Currently 17-18k, but have a hard time seeing it fly as high as her normal Minecraft streams. It might expose her to new viewers, which is a plus.

>>7816143
http://ikioi-ranking.com/

>>7816309
>Coco once made a suicide forest joke
Yeah, at the heels of Logan Paul catching all sorts of shit for doing something similar

61k for Koshien preview now. They're interviewing the contestants, at Rion right now. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if they left Kuzuha for last and this peaks at 70k+.

Feels bad for Hologen5 to share their anniversaries this week with Koshien, since I don't see any of their anniversary streams beating 61k and this is just the Koshien preview. Nene has a concert tomorrow, but even with the best guests, I think she peaks at 70k at best. There's basically no way Holos are going to get the most watched stream of the day until the Koshien arc is over.

Imagine how devastated Pekora would be after seeing the kind of numbers MC streamers can pull on twitch. Streaming there isn't good for her mental health.

>>7816412
Twitch is not popular in Japan. Even Jun has shit views on twitch.

>>7816421
Numbers wise, she's getting a shit ton of Twitch subscriptions which is easy money if she only streams a couple times a month on Twitch like Miko.

>>7816097
Nah no, it meant that she didn't reach a lot of her regular viewers with just a twitter post. Even I only knew of it when someone mentioned it in the previous thread. There's no pekora on Holodex atm. If Pekora wants to be full on experimental numberfag, she should've put Hardcore MC on both YT community post and Twitter. Not that I'm saying her numbers is bad, she's top 3 on Japanese tags above Shaka, but she still hasn't reached her peak yet so I'm guessing this is just a controlled test with normal minecraft and just a tweet on a weekday night.

>>7816572
Oh definitely, it's good for the money numbers.

And even with a "low" count of 18 k viewers, she's currently 5 most viewed stream. Only beaten by tournament + speed running event streams.

God how I wished she had streamed during normal Vshojo hours, the tears would have been epic.

>>7816528
>only 250k

>>7816612
So this is her audience that basically follows her on Twitter with maybe a few stragglers wandering in.

>>7816524
Anon, it's just an anniversary stream. Don't compare the numbers to the likes of marine and don't compare the numbers to the biggest yearly event for niji. 40-60k is expected, what they want is to reach as many people so that they could sell their seasonal merch.

>>7816612
Nevermind that, even if i know about it, i still won't touch twitch because the website is just terrible for my SEAass internet and i'm don't i'm alone in this regard.

>>7816713
That's the guy that deceives kids into thinking he's good at MC speedruns by cheating, right? Based.

>>7816713
Dream is a case of "how to exploit the YT algo 101", since he was one of the first to spam the community tab before everyone else started to do it post spiffing-brit video. Props to him and his ability to figure out exactly what type of content and what he needed to do to maximize his growth, but barring another ridiculous algo exploit....

>>7816740
Oh yeah, I know that. I meant it feels bad because shitposters will definitely shit up these threads in the upcoming days since gen 5 already gets shit for being a "failure" of a gen. If they can get 60k, it'll be pretty darn good actually.

>>7816612
she can't advertise a rival platform on youtube, specially in text, bots would catch it in seconds

>>7816242
You get what you want

>>7816849
That's easy. Line up the numbers of selejo's anniversaries.

>>7816886
Just a community post saying ,"I'll be streaming on twitch today on 22:00 JST. See you there."

I don't believe that YT would be disallow that unless there's a clear breach in ToS for it.

Could be that all the more casual Niji eyeballs are on the Koshien preview stream, but Ibrahim is still working on his minecraft project with only 15k viewers tonight. He used to get 22-25k every night doing this a few weeks ago so it's a pretty steep drop. It's pretty fucking crazy tho seeing what he's done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05jzk-gd1IM

https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1425813946783592458
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

>>7817144
WTF! 1M views on a July 2021 ASMR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u66Mxi5sI58

DAAAAAAMN!

>watching peckers
is 3000% hype train good?

>Korone pulling 14k on fucking bingo
NIPS WHY?

>>7817290
Dude....
Have you seen the livestreams of dudes gambling on Twitch?
It's the same. damn. Thing. Except with 'not gambling' with the nips cause of laws.

>>7817144
AKB48 popularized and normalized numberfaggotry.

>>7816107
This is a number thread so think with numbers. Her channel was in a decline cause hololive shut down all her ideas and the only thing she had was meme review before graduation. So she could have stayed and become like matusri but instead of apex it's meme review. But no this bitch had other plans on how to save her channel she announce graduation to get mass attention went out a legend setting record's. Then she used her roommate channel to take coco newfame and apply it to her while using this power to try out new projects and spread her presence everywhere. Once her roommate done with the projects she working or her channel dies she can just come back to coco and the hype of a coco return will give her channel another boost. Since the other hololive member been pushing the limit like marine she get to do the ideas she could not do before and mangement forgot how yabe she is. So in the end she just playing the long game in order to maximum numbers as numberfags yall should be able to easily see this.

>>7817235
That's some popular content.

>>7817276
Twitch is a weird place. I guess double-dipping on the streaming sites can bring her some new audience though.

>>7817400
Nah, she won't come back. Just her being another vtuber collabing with a Holo is enough hype. She can also be contracted to use Coco during special events.

>>7817400
>she can just come back to coco
I don't know anon. KSon herself talked about this and how "that would cheapen the concept of graduation", "hurting any streamer graduating from that point after".
Much like Aloe, Coco is not coming back.

Is RTA in Japan like SGDQ?

>>7817353
Pretty sure it was coco (for holo)

>>7814711
>What's wrong with Gura's 24k minecraft
Everything is wrong. She has 3 million subs, why is she getting beat by Pekora and Marine?

>>7817353
>popularized and normalized numberfaggotry.
kek, New Kids on the Block meatspace fan clubs were doing that all the way back in the 80s, with the metrics being records sold, fastest to Gold Record and this sort of numberfaggotry, and that's only on the "idol" type of artist.

>Pekora twitch stream over 20k live

>>7817654
Holy fuck man, I sorted through the Japanese tags to see her on 3rd, but I didn't know she's 2nd most watched live on twitch right now.

>>7817290
Nips are unironically addicted to all forms of gambling
In HoloPro alone:
>Gacha (mobage, apex gacha, etc)
Almost every member
>Card pack opening
Astel (reportedly bought a few thousand dollars worth of digimon card pack boxes and opened them on twitcast)
Fubuki (check recent pokemon card pack opening streams)
>Horsebetting
Miko (weekly sunday betting streams from april-may)
Roberu (weekly sunday betting streams from april-may)
Temma (participated in one horsebetting stream with Roberu)
>Scratch cards
Rushia (scratched 100 scratch cards on stream the other day)

>>7817695
Gen3 milked their fans harder than Gen4 though.

>>7817757
Anon, do you know how AKB48 works?

Wonder how much Gura would pull if she tests Twitch as well

>>7818020
>Anon, do you know how AKB48 works?
The only thing I (think) I know about them is that they numberfag their lead singer position through a highly watched Janken championship

>>7818032
She would get raided by so, so, so many streamers it wouldn't even be funny.

>>7817710
So let me ask you this, why do Pekora and Marine have higher CCV than Gura but can't get as many likes as her?

>>7817400
It was a masterstroke really. She gained a ton of attention from the graduation victory lap, then since everyone knew who her roommate was she just rolled that audience over to her personal channel as if nothing happened. I don't think anyone else could easily replicate it.

>>7818311
>acting as if likes matter
Rumao

>>7816015
>so why wouldn't cover let her do these sort of stream?
That's an assumption you made up yourself. Superchat gimmicks are allowed and even in this stream's case it's not the idea of the stream to begin with, it's just a zatsudan where she happened to set it in an amusing place.

>>7818199
just turn it off like pekora and miko

>>7818311
Or as man VOD views. Gura kills them in overall viewership.

>>7818501
>Numbers I don't like doesn't matter
I'll take that as you can't answer my question then.

So does this number prove or disprove the youtube CCV count being inaccurate?

It’s been revealed that nijisanji is also getting sponserships by msi for nijisanjis koushien too, holy shit

>>7819270
She hit 20k there unannounced anywhere but her Twitter account one hour prior, playing MC on a personal world and not JP Minecraft server.

I don’t know if that proves or disproves anything about YT count but it proves she has 20k nousagi that will follow her to the edge of the world if necessary

>>7818032
>Wonder how much Gura would pull if she tests Twitch as well
I think it would be interesting to see those numbers.

>>7819270
It's a number on a different website for a stream she only advertised on Twitter, so it doesn't prove or disprove anything.
Interesting observation about Pekora on Twitch: she has no chat mods, but people are still getting banned for spamming while she's playing. This usually means Twitch staff are watching.

>>7819270
Interesting

That is significantly lower than the viewership she gets on youtube for Minecraft. Also interesting is that its really not much higher than what Miko got when she played Minecraft on twitch. Miko got like 18.6.

Pekora mogged. She'll never stream on twitch again after this.

>>7819282
it's a shame that hololive can't get tech corpo sponsorships again because of chink's bullshit

>>7819282
Well if chinks were not being too parasitic, Asus would have not backed out on Botan. PC manufacturers will certainly go for the safest bet, chinese friendly and that's Nijisanji.

>>7819386
Pure nippon viewers baby

>>7817079
Haachama's is still bigger and more impressive https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1425797040542416900?s=20

>>7819270
Pekora copying Miko once again. That is how she has operated her whole career though, just copying what Miko does. Shameless.

>>7819409
They've been sponsored by Microsoft multiple times since the yab

>>7819225
>Gura kills them in overall viewership.
Anon, I know what you're referring to but you should be careful of how you word it, because overall Pekora actually generates more views by virtue of streaming more often and more regularly.

>>7819409
They got Xbox

$42,670 total for Rami's anniversary, expected but impressive, Nene should do well too but I'm not expecting much for the other two

>>7819439
>>7819473
i mean PC Corpos like MSI, ASUS, ACER, that have ties/factories in china, holos used to get these sponshirp on the regular, now none at all

>>7817710
>Gura has 3 million subs, so she should have more viewers
So double Mori in subs, and gets more than double Mori in live views. But that means nothing to anyone when talking “dead subs” apparently.

>>7819496
Please use english next time, I freaked out who this Rami was

>>7819435
Outdoing Miko in everything. Miko should just graduate at this point.

>>7817079
He's back to over 22k now that koshien stream is over

>>7819505
I'm typing this on a Microsoft tablet made in China, anon. Those companies are ultimately pretty small potatoes, and are also all Taiwanese so have to be much more sensitive about this sort of thing.

>>7815010
To be fair, it'll still attract idiots like >>7814852, so unironically his point is valid.

>>7819512
How do they get million view on their MVs in short duration when they have dead subs? that's unbelievable

>>7819581
>he dosen't know Ramirez
anonchama...

>>7817079
It isn't so different from Astel's Taj Mahal project. That was outstanding, but nobody saw it.

>>7819611
yes, that's what i mean, thanks for clearing it up, taiwanese or HK companies seems to be too afraid to give sponsorships now

>>7819512
Everyone has dead subs besides Ina.

>>7819683
Good, the less connection you have to bug land the better. Niji on the other hand practically lives in bug land and bilibili even has partial ownership of the company. I don't know how Nijiniggers can still support Nijisanji with how overwhelmingly infested with bugs they are.

Iburahims project is far more impressive, considering is building a sky castle with no creative mode.

Doesn’t even fucking compare to what astel or what haachama made.

>>7819683
The last time holos had sponsorship from MSI (I think), someone from the mainland china branch posted shit about it, and the collab got shut down.

>>7819378
Is Pekora playing hardcore Minecraft on Twitch? I just glanced for a bit but it looked like she was just screwing around and not even on the HoloJP server.

Holo doesn't need shitty sponsors from MSI or ASUS lads.

>>7819760
Astel also collected everything manually.

>>7819758
>>7819803

what kind of retarded cope is this lmfao

>>7819647
I saw it

>>7819775
I believe there is ASUS sponsorship stream that was canceled too

>>7819758
sadly MSI, ASUS and the like is not at fault, they are taiwanese companies, they're just afraid that their chinese branch would stir shit up

>>7819775
yes, that is the trigger that made these companies chickened out

>>7819852
MSI sponsoring koshien isn't impressive Anon, sorry to let you down.

>>7819647
I saw it and let’s be fucking real, as good as it is, it’s still not as impressive as iburahims current build.

>>7819852
Not cope at all. Enjoy your bug infestation nijinigger.

>>7819760
neither of them use creative mode

>>7819914
>>7819923
The copium is at an all time high!

>>7819925
Did haachama or astel tried building a floating castle, no? I didn’t think so

>>7819758
>>7819803
>>7819923
Sorry sir, this is the numbers thread. The cope thread is two blocks down.

>>7819960
So you are saying you support China? Interesting take to have.

>>7819775
Community manager of ASUS on NGA went on a huge tirade on their official account.
It ended up killing all involvement of ASUS with Hololive.

>>7819987
Guess what Microsoft has ties too? The answer might shock you!

>>7819852
All hail the zhangs
We praise normie boost
We kneel to china
>all these just to beat Holo

>>7820010
Who said that nijisanji is beating holo, all I mentioned that they got a crazy sponserships and all of a sudden the copium in the air has increase by holobronies

>>7819852
Seething about the bugman menace aside, nobody is really going to hurt for lack of sponsorships by Taiwanese PC component suppliers. I'm actually sort of surprised the baseball doesn't have a sponsorship from a konbini chain or something less niche.

>>7820059
Zhangjisanji

>>7820089
Holocopers

>>7819960
i don't give a shit about your retarded tribalist wars. stop fucking lying tho

>>7820010
If Xi the pooh debuts as vtuber, he'll get 1.4B fans.
All hail to Xi!

>>7820129
All i said what this>>7819282

Then fags got high on copium.

Nijisanji want their baseball to be huge they got chinks on standby with the sponsorship and their even begging for eops from reddit to come.

>>7820089
come on man, you should know to never reply to the holobrony poster

IbraGOD, I kneel

Jesus the baits are beyond retarded today

>>7820224
Pekora isn't going to stream on Twitch for a while after this...

>>7820207
Imagine the shilling just to overtake a single fish.

>>7820224
Why are you comparing Pekora to a Chinese vtuber?

>>7820249
You call “woah niji got sponsored by msi!” Bait which the followed by “REEEEEE CHINKS!!” Bait?

More like the damage done by the chink menace has irreversibly damaged holofags brains

>>7820064
I guess that just mean nips corpo is still that retarded when it comes to vtubers appeal to consumers. Seriously though, MSI is smart to keep pushing the sponsor collaboration with niiji, all those fujos who knows nothing about pc are probably buying overpriced shit they offer as long as it has chronoir face plastered on it.

I'm not seeing numbers.
>>7820207
Expected to win.

>>7820273
She will occasionally, to keep up her twitch sub reps

>>7820207
I'd be more excited about this if the views record wasn't completely out of reach. Due to that I have no interest in seeing this.

>>7820310
He is Nijinigger not zhangbro

>>7820273
Not sure, even 20-25K is Jun's average on Twitch.

>>7819602
Now he's at 25k afterall so maybe I was right. This might be his last stream for the project tho, it looks about finished. If only anyone in HoloEN had a fraction of this man's building talent...

>>7820207
Damn, the Niji reddit is really taking off huh

>the en gartic phone collab will be split views
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>Nene at ~12k viewers, playboard currently counts $8,346 in SCs
>meanwhile marasy8 has roughly the same amount of viewers but $24,405 in SCs while he's playing Night of Nights on the piano
Nekkos...

>>7820663
It’s a countdown stream.
Tomorrow is a 3D live and more merch.

>>7820207
This is going to be a viewership flop just like that big Apex collab that Nijiniggers were hyping up.

>>7820639
JP was as well. It makes sense because people want to see the drawing process

>>7820734
It's not going to have split POV for all members this time, so no.

>>7820639
So basically everyone except Ina (drawing buff) getting their usual numbers, with Calli and Kiara at the bottom? That's usually how their split POV collabs go.

>>7820788
It will flop. I would be surprised if it hits 50k.

>>7820734
If you're going to bait, at least say something partially true so its believable.

>>7820734
Don't forget

Not only was their big tournament a total flop, but it was won by Hololive, lol. Nijisanji just keeps losing.

>>7820639
Based on times they usually stream...
Kiara, Irys, and Mori views gonna be bogged
Ina buffed
Ame ???
Gura slight debuff

>>7820821
My bet is on Ina “surprising” and getting the highest number.
It’s no surprise tho, considering she’s the EN Marine

How is this possible?

>>7820968
>EN Marine
This does a grave disservice to Ina, lol. Marine is good but Ina is on a totally different level. They aren't even close in talent.

>>7820938
>it was won by Hololive
Well, wasn’t it what made Matsuri fall for the APEX meme?
If so I would say Nijis got the last laugh

>>7820968
Ya same. I can't wait for the Dead Space 3, MC Ender Dragon collab timeloops if Ina gets a higher peak than Gura LMAO

>>7821006
Not in drawing prowess, but in
>the only in the group that can actually draw in a multiPOV drawing collab

>>7820536
Nah it isn't the last, he still need to spawn proof, decorate, texturing, etc.

>>7820941
EN collab is truly difficult, time zone is pain

>>7821026
Huh? Gura got the most for the ender dragon collab.

>>7821068
You weren't here. People were saying that Gura only having 3-4k more than Ina 30 mins into the collab was a sign of her decline (15k vs 11k). Couldn't tell if bait or just retarded honestly.

>>7821047
The difference is that kiara and Calli can both draw decently, unlike in the JP collab where its basically only Marine and Noel who can draw

today's daily ranks
source - ikioi (those 20 min to 20min posts)

>>7821112
One person was spamming it and it's probably the same retard who was spamming the sodapoppin images, you know, before he got eaten by the shark

Bandwagoners got tired mass-disliking. They never learned on Aqua.

>>7821112
>>7821157
Cope. For Gura to not have dead subs she would need at least 3 times more viewers than Ina, yet the difference was very small.

>>7821013
She had fallen for it long before that tourney. Winning it was only plunging her deeper into the hole she and already fallen into.

>>7821207
yup, they come as fast as they go

>>7821208
If I get 1 sub 1 ccv,Ina should get 1.15M ccv to be equal?

Miko is aiming for the top spot, isn’t she? Really, I get getting 20k+ on her early afternoon Hardcore Minecraft soap opera (being the zenloss queen and all) but fucking Fall Guys is a little beyond my understanding
> SOMEONE NERF HER!

>>7821207
please understand disliking every video is hard for japanese...it is already hard for them to give a like

>>7821138
baka I blame Pekora for streaming on Twitch. She should've checked Gura's schedule and knew her numbers would be bad today playing Grime so she needed to be on her A game. I also blame Subaru for streaming on Moona's channel. Doesn't she care about the numberssssssss?

>>7821138
Miko taking up 2 spots in the top 10? The Elite is too powerful!

>>7821208
Why don't you go back to posting sodapoppin again

>>7814596
Today's numbers

>>7821138
Damn, the first 25 are all above 10k, and several from below also reached that on better tracking. When summer vacations buff ends I wonder how deep will they all dive lol

>>7821294
I'm expecting a pretty huge number from her hardcore Minecraft tonight. Its the climax of the story and she is taking on the Ender Dragon. Her viewership has actually been getting higher as the series goes in so I'm expecting over 30k.

>>7821349
>pekora making it anyway on her throwaway Twitch account
HOW DOES SHE EVEN DO IT?

>Cute bunny-san, I KNEEL

>>7821349
Horse Pussy absolutely mogging everybody, even Jun!!

>>7821294
Japs surprisingly still love Fall Guys. I think Lain from the new Nijis played it for one of her first few streams and got good numbers too, debut buff and all. I think Sora played it recently too and didn't do too bad. I can't see HoloEN getting more than 10k subs playing it tho, that game is dead in the west.

>>7821138
>>7821138
Pekor getting on top 10 despite streaming on Twich is cool. And nice to see GatchmanV up there, he was playing a horror game.

>>7821138
kek you can count in one hand those who did not make use of some gimmick or event to get to top 20

>>7821349
Pekora scraping into the top 20 with a Twitch stream she only announced on Twitter an hour in advance is pretty impressive.

>>7821207
How did Aqua end up with the most dedicated downvoters. Wasn’t Matsuri hated on 5ch?

>>7821304
collab with moona wouldn't give too much of a buff to subaru's channel anyways

>>7821389
That creeper hiding in the sunflowers before she went to nether was so fucking good, number wise.
Good for memes to hype her series up and pushed her “peak” forward in the series too.

>>7821476
Aqua doesn't deal with anti like Matsuri.

>>7821476
Apex autists are both more numerous and more committed to hating things than unicorns, evidently

>>7821476
>How did Aqua end up with the most dedicated downvoters
Aqua has haters going all the way back to Azur Lane

>Kiara lowkey confirmed the effect of streaming in one timezone
Yeah that answers why Ina has higher concurrent views than the others. They (holoEN) know this as well.

>>7821511
Chii-chan recently has been getting more Apex antis as they're making anti clips of her now according to her translators I wonder if Aqua is going through the same thing.

>>7821575
If EN2 have 2 NA 2 EU 1JP new members, we can have 5 -member big collab and 2 3-member medium collab in the same time zone

>>7821575
Her being in the EU debuffs her the most.

JP primetime is 1PM in Vienna, US prime time is 2AM there.

Vienna prime time is 2AM in Japan and 2PM in the east coast of the US

>>7821405
She's just really easy to watch regardless of language barrier. Imagine the views if she EOP pandered?

>>7821584
How does one even make an “anti clip”? Link?

>>7821689
Yes it's a debuff in VoDs but streaming consistently in one timezone like JPs or Ina will bring them more stable and higher live views. That's why sometimes Ina can even beat Gura when they collab, but not the VoD views that Gura's always overtake Ina's later on.

>>7821710
>Imagine the views if she EOP pandered?
Wouldn’t change much, based on Haachama. Both have one thing in common
>both have their own set of die hard audience members (nousagi, Haaton)

Haachama got some EOP boost but she always ends up at the same place, with her comfy crowd of die hard Haaton making for 90% of her daily audience

>>7821757
Taken out of context, bait worse than here. Remember that MikoxMarine incident. Literally, smear campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/mg7ldt/regarding_the_mikomarine_controversy_of_the_29th/

>>7821884
Example of an anti clip for Chii?

>>7821817
Ina has beaten Gura once when they collabed. Also, despite how much the Gura anti's will deny it there is heavy evidence that Gura's stream was shadowbanned during that collab.

>>7821757
I don't know Japanese so I have no idea how to search. I just follow some translators/livetweeters to see what's happening with some Nijis. Apparently it's about her manners when playing with "pros" because they're mad she's too familiar with them

>>7817235
Thumbnail game very strong.
I see it recommended in the sidebar every now and then, along with the Okayu laying one and the few Sion ASMRs

>>7821974
This is common even beyond vtuber, antis will just make shit up that even they know isn't a thing at all, but that's all you need sometimes for the avalanche of haters to latch on to and harass the girl into an apology.

>watching Astel for the past few hours with Bora Nun & Shirayuki Reid

HEY NIJIBLOKES, TRADE ALERT
>Holo receives Hoshikawa
>Niji receives Astel
DEAL?

Both would easily have twice their subs and 10x their median viewers

>>7822061
Reminds me of the janitor thing from Gen 5. Doesn’t help they have an army of falseflaggers trying to stir shit between the two fandoms (Hololive/Nijisanji). A lot of the time they’re vtuber antis from NND.

>>7816740
>>7816849
So saying Lamy the 5th gen getting low numbers despite using top Holos as guests makes me a shitposter while shitting on Nijis is encouraged? What kind of logic is that?

simplified HoloEN-JP in terms of VoD views/videos
Gura - Pekora/Marine
Miko
Mori
Ame/Ina/Kiara-Flare/Botan/Okayu/Noel
something like this (Kiara compensate her VoD with longer length, Ame gained more VoDs than Ina usually).

>>7822127
Hoshikawa doesn't deserve anything and Niji doesn't need more penis.

>>7822143
>while shitting on Nijis is encouraged
Anon, have you taken your meds lately?

>>7822177
>Hoshikawa
don`t push your trash to others

>>7822127
Everyone wants Astel to enter Nijisanji but never keep in mind his tendency to act flighty/menhera will paint a huge anti target on his back. Not trying to be tribalist but Nijisanji schizos are insane

>>7822127
You'd have to ship Matsuri over to Niji or else Hoshikawa is gonna bail the instant she can.

On a different note, Marine's new song should probably be hitting 1 mil sometime today, it's over 800k now.

I don't buy that Aqua and Chi are getting hate from apex fags who hate vtubers or whatever, Wouldn't Towa get disliked to shit for playing with one of the worlds best apex pros a bunch? She has had enough exposure at places like the Cr cup to pick up hate. She even commentated at algs, the audience for that was highly hostile to vtubers.

>>7822143
>shitting on Nijis is encouraged
Yes, and they do it to themselves. Nijiniggers on here like to preech unity but they couldn't be bigger hypocrites. Every Niji branch has its own general on here and even the JP branch is split with a males only thread. They literally can't stand each other.

Then you look at global where anything Hololive goes. That is true Unity.

>>7822244
Never understood what made their schizos crazier than holos

>>7822127
my boy would never join niggersanji, hes fine where he is.

Nijisanji JP fans are fucking crazy, Lain already disabled likes/dislikes because she's been targetted.

>>7822127
>astel would be bigger in nijisanji
dyrbi?

>>7822287
It's been said over and over that EN split because they want to livepost and give space to the spoonfeed thread, and the male fans went to make their own thread to be horny.

>>7822328
Say what you will about Matsuri , but she just leaves those likes/dislikes up there. That said, the festival anti campaign is fucking pathetic.

>>7822287
Truth be told and in an ABSURD bout of irony
>THE FUCKING NUMBERS THREAD
, the designated shitting street of this board, the tribalism containment thread is THE ONLY THREAD where nijisanji and hololive are discussed side by side, with respect and even some comradeship

It’s so weird it is turning frogs gay

>>7822287
you can talk about any branch you want in the main thread.
foreign branch threads to discuss in more detail.
nijiEN would drown discussion of anything else so it gets its own thread (other branches are also discussed there btw).
male thread is for gays and fujos to hornypost without being a public nuisance to normal people.

>>7822345
Easily and unironically

>>7822439
retard

>>7822301
Insecurities maybe?

>>7822328
That was quick. Was this the reason Nijisanji encouraged reporting slanderous statements last week?

Good thing HoloJPs are learning apathy, let the antis commit suicide.

>>7822328
targeted by what?
outside being boring there is not a lot to her.
Has leo even streamed lately? he just dissapeared.

>>7822287
Global is just the designated EN thread and you know it. A big portion of the holoJP fanbase is still on /jp/ and they despise global.

>>7822469
Admit it anon
> YOU’RE GAY FOR ASTEL
ADMIT IT!

>>7822503
He has Twitter

>>7822407
She has experience with this,and she already
filtered a lot of anti

>>7822301
Because thee are over a hundred talents in the main branch alone. The same people who are antis of one niji are usually gachis of another niji so they are both more persistent and know them mroe intimately, unlike in hololive's case where any antis they have are usually from outside the fandom so they are mostly seasonal drama chasers from rl celebrity circles who come in, make alot of fuss, and leave without ultimately doing much.

>>7822523
i like astel so you don't need to convince me, i just think 'astel would be bigger in nijisanji' shitposts are retarded. watch him as he is and let him be instead of thinking of weird fanfic scenarios that we can't properly imagine anyway because they didn't and will never happen.

>>7822523
Wake up anon, WE ALL are

>>7822328
kanae channel also does it. sometimes it's just better not to think about stuff like that.

>>7822472
The legal thing was most likely for Morinaka getting pinned as the mistress of a seiyuu because tabloid articles can't tell that vtuber bdays are different from their irl bdays.
>>7822503
Lately she's targeted for changing her voice and being "fake" compared to her debut (which antis also shit on for sounding fake). Leos is working opening memberships/SC on Friday that will feature art.

>>7822505
No actually they mostly moved into global or the individual split threads because of the never ending shityness the JP thread has become. If anything they've become more of an anti nest who make anti threads about the holos on /vt/ just so they can prove to their compatriots what a shitty place this is and why staying in jp is a good idea.

>>7822563
ADMIT IT!

>>7822582
Gender bent Astel is top tier MILF material

>>7822609
>Morinaka getting pinned as the mistress of a seiyuu because tabloid articles can't tell that vtuber bdays are different from their irl bdays.
kek, that was the dumbest controversy of the year, maybe second only to South Koean newspapers falling for the
>world renowed detective Amelia Watson gives her input on the unsolved homicide

>>7822617
wow but i've been told holo fanbases were united? holobros??

>>7822609
>Lately she's targeted for changing her voice and being "fake" compared to her debut (which antis also shit on for sounding fake).
She does sound more natural now, imo.
Her debut was very practiced. If I had to guess, I would say that she is someone who at least went through training to be a seiyuu.

>>7822608
He's been around for a long time the point it's only been 3 weeks and she's already turned them off because of the Niji antis.

>>7822712
Anything jp touches turns to shit, and it doesn't help that the meidos don't give a shit anymore and just let obvious schizoposters stay up

>>7822766
The meido only cares about making sure his Nijisanji thread is clean.
The /JP/ hlg thread is full of SEA who wished they were born Japanese. Their thread has been getting CP spammed from a schizo homo fan, not sure if this is still the case.

astel would do worse in niji, most likely slightly above hajime level
japs hate astel. his subs are 70% eops, you dont get that in nijisanji

>>7822740
i'm not saying the antis aren't bad, i'm giving an example of someone else with particularly schizo antis. i personally think if it helps the chuuba ignore it that they should go for it and turn likes/dislikes off even when they're not specifically under attack.

>>7822842
nah astel could be VALZ tier, genzuki tojiro isn't as menhera but he also sings and is snappy so maybe more similar to him.
no one can be hajiki that man is an anomaly.

>>7822555
Indeed, she has so much experience that she helped out a lot of other chuubas who were getting flamed years back.
When you build your image as the loud, crude, lolicon, you know the kind of attention you're attracting and she had the mental fortitude to play to it for so long.
Even of she went from one yab to the other this summer, all it did is get her from 6k to 8k likes on average.

>>7822828
No it was an anti homo schizo spamming gay porn, last I heard he got half of Indonesia rangebanned from posting images on /jp/
Don't worry we got a whole bunch of new schizos in there, mostly sea but also Germans and other EU folk

>>7817710
Since you don't seem very smart I'll tell you why there's a difference. Pekora's and Marine's viewers are mainly living in Japan. A single timezone. Gura's viewerbase is spread across literally the entire world, which is why most of her subs can't watch her live and instead watch her vods - explaining why her vods gets more viewers than theirs. It's not that fucking hard.

>>7822842
>send the males to a concentration camp and prohibit them from interacting with the rest of the company
>wow, why don't the idolschizo JP audience cares about them?

>>7822941
fuck off to 2ch

>>7822875
Nah they're more different. Astel gets really into his feelings sometimes and that would make people hate him for looking weak. Genzuki's snappiness is towards his fans that act out of line sometimes. Actually mentioning it in a lot of recent twitcasts. Man's going through a Kanae arc where he's egosurfing way too much.

Surprised that lain gets consistent 5k viewers after the debuff wore off, expected much less. I guess this is also good that now she can build her own fanbase now.

Oh yeah Eden gumi got this coming up too
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1425396875335716871?s=21

On a slightly different note, suo sango had a really nice incline recently too.

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1425854602432319505
This seems pretty huge. I can see them reaching 300k with all povs combined.

>>7823117
they are pushing them too hard. so desperate

>>7823124
Sorry anons, I meant 30k. Sorry for make it look like I was false flagging

>>7823124
why is she so dark
doesnt look like tan to me
is her dad a nigger?

>>7823155
Seems to be working though
>>7823124
I was going to be happy by this until I one person mentioned that they’re gonna split the POV’s

>>7823124
>300k
lmao no. I expect them to get about 50 to 70k combined, there was no hype on this, although Ina may be able to boost her own up for a return.
My take:
Ina 16k
Gura 14k, not an artist
Mori 12k
Kiara 8k
Ame 8k
Irys 8k

btw my 55k for lamy anni wasn`t too far off, can`t remember anyone who said something closer

>>7817235
Her roommate did better

>>7823124
>>7823171
Not a good time for Gura, but she and Ina can pull 20k+ combined. The other four can pull 10k+ combined.

>>7823155
Nijifans don't seem to hate it though, unlike the Valz, they tried to push them by including 3 of them in tournaments and people fucking hated them, then Niji just said fuck it and left selejo to die when they debut.

>>7822038
Funny thing about the Shion one is that she admitted that she hates that video and wishes she could delete it.

>>7823117
Ngo deserves the world. I think she's one of the few full package vtubers, who's good at everything this job wants.

She started her incline around late May if i remember right - the old clips blowing up story, but hers were being shared on NicoNico, so she's getting a good JP audience.
She also did pretty well on her anniversary SC wise.

>HoloEN Gartic
Starts at 6am. Rather watch this live than sleep. I don't want my vods-to-watch swelling again, pain in the ass.

>>7822939
Surprisingly a large amount of people here can't wrap their head around this simple fact. Actually wait......that isn't surprising at all....

>>7823398
>a large amount of people here
anon...

>>7823324
It's easier to push gamers or weirdos than it is to push musicians when first starting out. Either way VALZ have their own corner of gachis secured so I wouldn't call them a failure. Selejo are lower but they're trucking on, shame they couldn't all celebrate 1 year together thanks to Kohaku always being MIA.

>>7823242
If you've watched Gura in the previous HoloEN collabs where drawing is involved, she is GREAT at comedic drawing. She has a talent for it, and her cursed ina still haunts my gacha nightmares to this day.
Ina 15-16k
Gura 14-16k
Mori 10k
Kiara 6k (bad timezone for her fanbase)
Ame 7-8k
IRyS 4-6k (bad time for where she's been streaming to)

Gotta love 5chmatometard-chama pushing 5ch opinions as fanbase opinions

>>7822939
>explaining why her vods gets more viewers than theirs
Do they? Gura's VOD views are not that good lately. Marine has a few videos with similar duration and CCV higher than this.

>gura vod and views
jesus fucking christ, do you faggots need to talk about this every thread.

>>7823665
RESET THE TIMELOOP!

>>7822328
She had been target by holofags since day one because they think she's Aloe, holo unicorns are crazy

>>7821349
60k for koshien? lmaaaoo thats some pathetic numbers
you nijiniggers were saying that it will btfo even coco

>>7823936
I know there are retards here but you have to be giga retarded to think that's Aloe. Everyone on earth who knows her knows her new life. She has a fucking thread

It also looks like Gura is on par with Kuzuha in VOD views lately. I've circled the streams that have similar duration and CCV to hers. What's the excuse here, chumbabs? He doesn't even have a third of her subs.

>>7823936
If they were truly her fans, they'd fucking know what she's doing now. Stupid motherfuckers are probably part idiot and genuinely believe it, and part drama falseflaggers looking to stir up shit.
>7823943
Buddy, that bait is so rancid it's started to grow legs. You don't even get a (you) from it. The main event isn't until later, this is just another lead-up video so it did quite well in that regard.
>>7823698
ETERNAL TIMELOOPS, we can't escape them.