/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Sometimes things change and it can happen pretty rapidly. I loved working for the Department of Transportation until they tried to make me do sketchy garbage with my PE license.

It gets even better, lmao

>>78106541
more like he likes the guys that work there (which is true he still meets up with them)

The no-talent grifter really thought he could offload his homo audience to his roommate. What a fucking loser lmao

>>78106541
>>78106955
Such a fake POS. I can at least respect vesper’s reason for leaving, he wasn’t cut out for a corpo job, but Fagni was just full of himself.

>>78106541
He loved it for the 'memes'

Even with all of the shit Vesper did, like absolutely obliterating the vibe Tempus HQ once had and stirring drama for no reason, at least he comes off as a genuine menhera retard who was in way over his head in a corpo.
This cunt, though? Actual fucking grifter.

>>78107116
I think there's more to Vesper's departure than just "I don't wanna sing" and "muh game perms waah waah" He was clearly a huge dipshit behind the scenes.

However Magni's leaving was pure 100% grifting and entitlement and his narcissism made him believe his fans would all just follow him to his fleshscum self. Now he whines every day because they didn't.

>>78106541
Why the fuck are you guys still talking about these guys? Do we really need to have a daily threads on this grifter or the manchild?

>>78106541
He definitely missing Tempus a lot now.

>>78106541
Cover lied to him. He thought he was joining hololive tempus. As EN3. They should be sued

Pester and Fagni getting terminated was the only highlight of the homo branch. Imagine calling yourself a man when you give up at the slightest adversity. They were coddled and given the most support of any gen in Hololive's history, and they still wanted more despite their numbers proving they weren't worth it. Waste of resources.

>>78107210
I still remember he had personal merch release right after he graduated.
From the same people who did Tempus' first anniversary merch. Piece of shit.

>>78107342
>They were coddled and given the most support of any gen in Hololive's history
LOL

>>78107332
Well, holostars is not and never will be hololive. If anyone had done literally any research into the thing they applied to and got hired by they would know this.both Vesper and Magni were willfully ignorant, so they have nobody to blame but themselves for their choices.

>>78107342

holochud

>>78107239
So history doesn’t repeat itself

>>78107425
Seethe, sister.

>>78107468
how much are you getting paid, Coverdrone

>>78107539
>t. seething over fiction

>>78107342
>Imagine calling yourself a man when you give up at the slightest adversity
It's extra funny because the girls dealt with 1000x worse shit, yet they're the ones acting like oppressed little divas.

>>78106541
Why is there a sudden rise of Magni seethe

>>78107342
If Vesper and Magni ACTUALLY GOT SUPPORT, they wouldn't have graduated retard. Management left them to fend for themselves against antis and never approved their projects or outright fucked them up. Stop lying

>>78107713
Half convinced it’s just him making these threads. It’s been like 2 years, nobody gives a shit

>>78107613
I'm just telling you accurate information. Stop trying to pretend that everything I said is not accurate, because it is. Holostars will never be Hololive, only holopro as a cope.

>>78107713
idk. the Vesper threads are at least guranteed (You)s to reach bump limit. Magni solo seethe threads usually die out fast

>>78107797
Let it go, Magni. You sound pathetic

>>78107797
t.Magni

>>78107713
Either Whorofags deflecting from their side kneeling to bugs or the Niggersanji sisters deflection thread. Not like there's a difference between the two

>>78107943
>>78107978
Name any "support" they got that wasn't the same bog standard "support" for any talent.

>>78106541
I need the TL:DR on this guy.

>>78107797
>If Vesper and Magni actually got support, they wouldn't have graduated
Even if they had gotten Yagoo himself wiping their asses, they still would have left. You know why? Because they didn't want to be idols in the idol company they applied for.
Miyabi should make a 3D stream dancing on their graves. Pair of quitters couldn't handle a fraction of the shit he got.

>>78107797
>antis
Every single Holo (even Ina) has dealt with 10000x more anti-ing than these mentally ill manchildren have

>>78108080
They got... well... THEY JUST DID OKAY STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!!!!

>>78107984
Nice copium, Magni. Tempura don't like you anymore, either.

>>78108181
There's not much to tell, he was kinda liked as a homo apart from ramping up the gaybaiting later on. Behind the scenes however his roommate turned out to be a massive narcissist and entitled diva. One of his first things was bitching about how ugly his model looked and it all went downhill from there to the point that after they both fucked off, the homo general actually hated him more than the ACTUAL problem child (Vesper)

>>78108080
Why should they get anything more than what everyone else gets?

>>78108181
Quitter. Caused so much seethe /here/ during a year he was in holopro that he's still talked about, year after graduation.
That short enough for you?

>>78106541
Mori was really on the nose giving him the nickname Mr. Hands, as he killed himself with the high horse he rode in on.

>>78108181
>got meme boost pre debut due to magging meme + Yagoo boosting him
>starts doing twitch collabs on his channel which caused him to lose the goodwill of /vt/
>vesper became the breakout star of the gen
>new tempus gen debuts
>clown takes most of his fans
>he goes menhera in a membership stream and talks about how Vesper is the only thing keeping him there and that he's afraid of fans leaving him
>gets a model update after complaining about it on RM in late 2022
>goes on a random hiatus during anniversary even though he had projects he was working on for the group
>graduates
we'll never really know what happened the last months but honestly magni wasn't nearly as offensive as people make him out to be imo. He never skipped out on collabs and tried his best to maintain relationships with his genmates and they still talk fondly about him during their streams

>>78107210
Didnt Vesper manage to piss Altare off?It makes me wonder how much of an asshole he was behind the scenes because Altare is friends with literally everyone

>>78108777
Yeah Mori really knows her horses.

>>78108421
>bitching about how ugly his model looked
based
that thing has to be the ugliest shit i have ever seen

>>78108813
Altare is a boot licking troon supporter. Of course Vesper hated him and his faggy voice.

>>78108908
Vesper said that Altare was his oshi kek

>>78106541
He just loves popular holojps like marine but she doesn't give a fuck about homos so he went menhera

>>78108813
They (probably) had some major clash, the whole thing is a mystery that will never be solved. I don't even know which side is right since they're both cunts.

So essentially Vesper was an asshole and Magni was a total dipshit

>>78107797
The Japanese Holostars had it far, far worse than either Magni or Vesper did. StarsEN was very coddled in comparison and Vesper even had his redesign before IRyS IIRC. They just left because they didn't 100% get their way.

>>78108080
exactly. Holochuds love their headcanon talking points
>silver spoon
>never had to struggle
>unprofessional
>me here
and when all else fails, cue liveEN vs StarsEN
>waaah, the girls are being neglected while da bois get preferential treatment

>>78108813
Probably. I don't think his rm has ever interacted with Altare's. Meanwhile both Altare and Axel met Magni in Japan like a month ago.

>>78109026
I remember him saying that in his FTL stream. He lied, simple as. It's obvious once you realize what Axel meant by "mom and dad are fighting" in his menshi and by Vesper and Altroon not being in a single collab together for over four months after that incident. Vesper even went out of his way not to mention Altroon whenever his name popped up on chat.

>>78109111
very good! you earned a gold star today anon!

>>78107797
I can just imagine the girls seeing Vesper and Magni crying about this stuff that they have put up with for years and rolling their eyes. At the end of the day they wasted everyone's time and resources.

>>78109271
>projecting headcanon on the girls
chuds. everytime.

>>78108813
Altare is just as much, if not even more so, an abrasive cunt as vesper.

>>78107797
i don't even believe you are magni or vesper fan. unless you just the orc or prof fan and come here after find out their corp life. saying shit like this is so disrepect for starJP and even hololive girl who have to go through the hard time of the early day. starJP debut with 1-2 view. think about it.

>>78108080
>1. Branch doesn't get axed despite being completely fucking worthless. Proves Yagoo will literally light a pile of money on fire just to suck some cock.
This point alone already proves everything btw, but I'll keep going
>2. Literally came up with a fucking God of Hololore, Omegatroon, just so he could personally shill homoshits on a constant basis and make random anti-holo snide tweets such as "homos=hololive"
>3. free redesigns when IRyS had to wait 50000 years to get rid of her creatura model
>4. Speedrunning 3D shit even though nobody watches them, occupying precious timeslots in their very limited 3D studio capacities. Again burning money solely to shill them.
>5. Entire staff of Cover doing a concerted effort to shill them, none of which is shown to the girls in even a fraction of the magnitude: Yagoo tweet spam, merging the twitter accounts so holochads would be FORCED to see homoshit, intentionally ignoring holo events but tweeting every time a homo so much as breathes, locking down subs and in the process preventing holo event discussion, all to shut down backlash against homos because nobody wants to see them
>6. Mori and the other homolovers bending over backwards to make collabs possible and willingly taking all the unicorn backlash onto themselves solely to shill for these fags
>7. Holos tried to get NijiEN collabs going for years without success but the literal NANOSECOND a homo asks omegatroon he instantly gets his wish granted, again blatant favoritism by omegatroon

>>78109111
Actually it’s kind of the other way around. Vesper is a menhara retard and Magni is a narcissistic cunt.

>>78107342
>terminated

>>78109678
I don't give a fuck about JP or the girls. The fact is that Vesper and Magni got the short-end of the stick in a time where management had supposedly "improved" and that's the reason they're gone. Now fuck off.

>>78109678
Don't think so either, /MANS/ definitely hated Magni and rightfully considered him a traitor
Probably just a Nijichink falseflagging

>>78108080
there's a collection of all the shit they were supposed to be getting better treatment until you compare it to holoX. some retard probably has it saved.

>>78109803
Tempiss1 are all just menhara babies. None of the other homos ever complain about lack of support.

>>78108453
>They were coddled and given the most support of any gen in Hololive's history
So you are admiting this statement is false?

>>78109803
list out their "short-end" pls?

>>78109891
To be fair I don't think altroon and axel ever complained either. But this just goes to show how much those 2 tarnished the reputation of the rest.

>>78107116
>>78107175
>>78107210
>>78108813
>>78109111
What's the rrat on Vesper being an asshole behind the scenes? I only recall that he was suspended for a period due to some sort of outburst towards management. In any case, I always assumed he left because he found himself unhappy with the restrictions and obligations of a corporate job.

Oh god, I just remembered Vesper's redesign, kind of making me glad that he left immediately after to preserve the memory of his appearance as it was originally.

>>78108421
To be fair, as much as I liked Magni, he unfortunately had the worst face out of all the Cover talents. I always felt bad for him being stuck with that.

>>78109967
Axel went out of his way to say he thought Niji management was better.

>>78110024
...anon? he literally talked shit about them after the dokibird thing

>>78106541
You can love your team despite absolutely hating your job and vice-versa Anon. It's not a hard concept to understand. From what I've seen, Magni has a good relationship with all his former teammates.

>>78107797
>get thrown into the freezer for 2 months
>cant stream cant even use their twitter
>they are quitters reeee
I honestly dont think any of the girls have ever been manhandle like this. But they were hated for being a bridge between hololive and holostars even in the Tempus fandom, so im not surprised at the amount of hate they get.

>>78110024
clip or lie. for Cover, i just search axel talk about managment and there is tons alr.

>>78110024
You nijikeks need to falseflag better.

>>78109835
>>78109678
yeah sounds like a false flagger. most of the people that actually watched them either moved on to the other guys in holostars or they follow the PL's. most of the resentment over whatever happened died out after the first month except for the schizos in /MANS/ that yells about them being traitors.

>>78106541
Your balls are a lie.

>>78110024
(You)

>>78110232
got them right here, pantsgrab. can't same the same for that faggot in the OP. KEK

>>78109989
like you said, speedrunning the fastest suspension in hololive production history was already a huge red flag
coming back completely unapologetic and just saying "lol i lost my temper lol", another huge red flag

The big thing though was the "menhera arc" where he started ghosting the rest of tempus for months and months, flaking on several collabs that he was even outright planned for and leaving the others to deal with the "vesper doko" spam. Again never apologized. For added context, the tempus fanbase was really huge on "unity" so this sudden break of group cohesion really ruined the atmosphere for many sisters.
Now his excuse at the time was that he went to japan, didn't take his anxiety meds with him, then went "OH NYO I DON'T HAVE MY ANXIETY MEDS HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED I'M GOING SCHIZO" and basically locked himself up in his room.
Now, the thing is not only did this not excuse his ghosting, he could have just said something from the start; it also eventually became very doubtful how much of that excuse was even true. Because while he supposedly was crippled with anxiety and "unable to collab", he still collabed with girls. And even after returning home he still claimed he couldn't collab, yet AGAIN colllabed with girls anyway. So many people called bullshit.

Lastly his nature as a shit-stirrer eventually became too obvious. He was always egging on the antis, or for example, raided Kiara and outright said "if anyone gets pissed off about it they can bite my ass" or something along those lines.

>>78107401
pretty sure ohmonah and him are actual friends behind the scenes. they talk about casually meeting up all the time.

Homobeggars as usual proving to be utterly delusional. They were just two mentally challenged menheras who quit and didn't even have the guts to tell their fans goodbye.
And you can't claim NO SUPPORT when Vespiss graduated literally a day after receiving a full blown redesign from Pako.
And you can't even claim that they had it harder because of the antis when Holo girls receive 10 times the amount of hate for simply existing. Go to the catalog or /hlgg/ at any time and you'll find a schizo spamming on cooldown and shitting on one of the girls.

>>78109989
>To be fair, as much as I liked Magni, he unfortunately had the worst face out of all the Cover talents. I always felt bad for him being stuck with that.
i mean gura's eyes aren't even fucking aligned. you can make it work if you embrace the goofyness a bit
also someone post that fagni smile clip

>>78110024
He said their marketing was better, specifically. This was also when AnyKuro was in maximum overdrive with merch releases and debuts to drain every morsel of revenue from their suckers and before 2%gate.

>>78110408
>also someone post that fagni smile clip

>>78110408
I do feel bad for people who get stuck with bad models because I think it's really fucking cuntish behavior from the corp. Like how fucking hard is it to have some quality control, not hire absolute hacks, and have a red line where you go "what the fuck are you doing you fucking retard" before proceeding with model production ?

That being said it's definitely not a career-ender, IRyS already got popular when she still looked like a goblin. And Magni DID manage to brainwash people into "ironically" liking his model via memes. But he's a narcissist so that wasn't enough for him, he wants to look like a Luxiem clone.

>>78110396
get dick out of your head already its been over a year

>>78107797
>left them to fend for themselves against antis
unless the antis do something illegal there's nothing management can do. doxxing, stalking, harrassment, threats to people's physical safety, shit like that. being a schizo and disliking a youtube streamer is not illegal.
the girls have even more antis considering they're more popular and it's the same for them. what was management supposed to do in your opinion?

>>78110396
>Vespiss graduated literally a day after receiving a full blown redesign from Pako.
There really is no need to lie to shit on the homos you know, you are just making us look bad.

>>78106541
Why are holofags so obsessed with him and the vampire dude?

Like, they just changed jobs and that's it, you guys act like they betrayed Jesus and stabbed him in the back, but all they did was quit and become an indie.

>>78110308
>fastest suspension in hololive production history

>>78106955
Jesus.

>>78110396
>/vt/ counts as giving members hate
Anon that's REALLY not a fight you want to take.

>>78110470
i fucking pissed myself laughing, thanks

>>78109967
Altroon hated his 2nd outfit so much he just scrapped the whole thing. The first homos have such an unearned sense of entitlement while Bettel carries their bum asses.

>>78108782
Magni loved Tempus but it was obvious that him and Vesper were fighting with management. Cover is strict and considering they fired Mel and deleted her channel of 5 years they definitely enforce their NDA. Whatever really happened in the weeks before the Tempus anniversary will never be publicly known. Same thing with Sana, Ina, and Gura having those health breaks that went on for months. Gura might not release her 3rd year membership badge until after her 4th anniversary so even now there are curious things going on with HoloEN.

>>78110674
Im still mad.

>>78110673
Gee maybe it's because there's like 9000 unanswered questions to their whole story/end. Shit went down so weird I'd even put it above the PekoMiko rift in terms of mystery.

Sana "betrayed" Holo almost as much as Magni and people shit on her for it, but her circumstances are mostly clear by now so there's nothing to talk about.

>>78110796
Bad example. Gura's just lazy.

>>78110673
They collabed with the girls, constantly, in fact they are the ONLY ones that constantly do so before being forcefully graduated.

>>78108782
>goes on a random hiatus during anniversary even though he had projects he was working on for the group
Dont think it was random, pretty sure its management enforced, its just rrats but its pretty weird to go radio slient for 2 months for him. No stream, no community post, not even twitter.

>>78110796
Sana had a back issue that she admitted to, but she never said it was the reason for her graduation, and later on her RM outright made it clear her health is fine (since faggot sanallites wouldn't stop concernfagging her and she wanted nothing to do with holo anymore).

Ina's health issues were a nothingburger iirc, I don't remember much about it but the "controversy" was more that she traveled to Japan on vacation during her so-called health break and kept it a secret, we only found out because a JP leaked that she's there.

Gura's just lazy and plays survival-horror all day off-stream with her stupid discord clique

>>78110832
They didn't betray anyone, they just change jobs and that's it, you aren't entitled to know everything about Hololive.

>>78110884
They didn't force anyone, Kronii, Mumei, Bae and Mori, chose to collab with them.

In the end just Unicorns and schizos hate them

>>78111032
hmm no sana did kinda betray hololive cause she choose chinese gachas over it

>>78111032
These posts are so uninspired and scripted it's actually making me think it's a bot

>>78110673
I don't give a shit about malexfemale collabs because I'm not a retarded fag.
I don't like Magni and Vesper because they unironically fucked over Tempus royally.

The only way I can equate it is, imagine if Council debuted, and then 2 months later. Ina Ame and Mori all graduated/Terminated at the same. Myth would be super fucked and very early on.
I don't think they got fired like the lot of tards here do. It happened as they said, Magni quit and then Vesper saw it as a good time to go too because they both couldn't handle it.
They should've 100% stuck through the bullshit though.
I don't believe for a second they both don't regret it.

>>78110673
They were may favorites out of Holostars EN, and their departure killed my interest in the branch altogether. Bettel probably could've filled the void, but that event demotivated me from bothering.

>>78109346
wrong, i'm fauna mumei mori IRyS and i did indeed rolled my eyes during that whole fiasco.

>>78111220
I still remember how well-received Tempus was at the start lol. Many actually let themselves believe in the "brotuber" meme.
I even watched Vesper myself early on. They quickly killed all goodwill that non-sisters had for them though.

>>78110972
yeah before the official hiatus announcement came out, for Vesper I just thought it was the usual silent ghosting given he had a karaoke planned, but I knew something was weird when Magni didnt say anything about missing a planned stream/collab.
I still believe the Tachibana leaks had something to do with what happened since they had a duet in the works.

>>78111106
Sana:
>Join a company, because your friend invited you
>You didn't like the work, but liked you coworkers
>Quit in good terms, have a graduation
>Dedicate your time to your art

Some random schizo:
>SHE BETRAYED HOLOLIVE FOR CHINESE GACHAS

If you think about it, the one at fault were Ina and the management for hiring someone that just didn't like streaming.

>>78111179
They didn't fuck tempus, they just quit, it is not like they stole money from Cover or decided to spread lies about their old coworkers, they just changed jobs because they were more comfortable as indies.

>>78111220
That's your problem, becoming an anti because of that is insane, go to therapy or something.

>>78111341
yeah and it all started because some of the girls threw them a bone. quite a convenient excuse for the retards to use.

>>78111179
You know what, fair enough. Vespers boomer fanbase leaving with him probably fucked with the overall starEN revenue as well.

>>78107797
Unironically I don't hear a single star say anything bad about any of the management ever.
And they all always talk about how much work managers do to support them. Bettel and Jurard talk about it the most

>>78111453
When he became an orc his fanbase was utterly exposed as 99% women
Whatever "boomer" fans he may have had were just antis and kiwishitters attaching themselves to him because he trolled holos/holofans

>>78111475
Didn't Axel cry once because he wanted management to pay for his song production or something

>>78111405
>They didn't fuck tempus, they just quit
I don't even have to watch the homos to know that causing massive drama during their branch anniversary and having to delay it for a month causes damage to the whole group

>>78111580
no dramafag

>>78111407
>because some of the girls threw them a bone
It was more because of the girls being retarded and the "definitely liked them at first trust me bro" group used those as opportunities to pin it on Tempus. Bae was the only one to not give antis ammo.

>>78111580
No and the reason he did cry was personal IRL shit not whatever you're talking about

>>78111580
No he didn't but speaking of which didn't he want to become music oriented where are all the covers and originals now?

>>78111405
>they just quit
You're trying to equate this to like a normal job at McDonald's or some shit and are purposefully ignoring all of the other factors in being in a job like this

>>78109703
Even Mori the golden child wasn't allowed to collab with the moistman on her main account, but they let Magni do a stream with 39daph no problem.

>>78111732
He's making another big cover right now

>>78111380
actually what I remember in Vespers final stream (which was a membership) he mentioned that people should see Nina off at her graduation stream since it was still live. Wonder if that had anything to do with what happened.

Rrat: Magni is doing vtuber reincarnation soon and he's making these threads to get people remember his magni days and associate the new form with him

>>78107210
>He was clearly a huge dipshit behind the scenes.
Yes, that's what "wasn’t cut out for a corpo job" means

>>78111781
daph is a literal #who to most people unless you coom to dime a dozen asian twitch girls. cr1tikal is pretty much an A-list e celeb known and watched by almost everyone online.

>>78106541
Wow you can tell this board ran out of shit to shitpost about when they're recycling shit that happen about 1 year and a half ago to stirr up shit about crap nobody gives a shit about lmao holyshit.

>>78111341
I started watching him too but I just got the feeling that he was oozing patronizing disrespect constantly.
He kept acting like he knew better than chat and was full of "wisdom" and it turned out he almost never knew what he was talking about.

>>78111732
>didn't he want to become music oriented
Yeah he originally wanted to do a cover a month as did Altare. Axel not living up to that goal was likely a combination of retarded optimism as well as being (self-admittedly) retarded with money. Not sure why Altare has a whopping 2 but I don't follow him to begin with.

>>78111902
I don't even know what your point is

>>78107797
Oh come on, you can't say that when they got their redesigns debuted just before their hiatus/departure. It rubs me the wrong way that it ended the way it did, but there's always that strange dilemma where if management was in such dire straits with Magni/Vesper, why does the remaining Tempus members stay?

>>78110674
I'm still mad that this sexy a design will go unused

>>78111978
I think he thought the initial cash boost the holostars were given to do projects would stay or the pot getting bigger and he chose to spend all his money. He was the one that complained about not having enough for a PS5 right?

>>78112018
>why does the remaining Tempus members stay?
You all keep making this so complicated when it's so simple.

>Magni
He is fickle 1, and 2, he thought he could do more IRL stuff (as he does now). But he was disappointed that he was restricted so hard that he can't even show skin. That mixed with he can't stick to 1 thing for a long time and disagreements with management, he decided to leave.

>Vesper
He's an oldfag and doesn't want to be managed, especially not by autist JP managers.
Also he's menhera as FUCK, which was made extremely evident by his Japan trip.
So he's fucking insane and also hates management (in general). He was bound to leave.

Everyone else stays because the job is amazing and easy as fuck, and management isn't as bad as people (and Ves and Magni) portray it as.
I don't see any other Star member leaving because of Management, and I don't see any Holo leaving because of Management.
Management isn't perfect but it's way better than 90% of other company's

>>78110221
Homobeggars hiding behind their falseflagging on nyfco to force Hololive fans to watch their faggots.
>>78110074
>>78110190
Can't clip it because it's menshi. Just search the archives, you'll find discussion about it. It was about 3-4 months after their debut.

>>78112160
>He was the one that complained about not having enough for a PS5 right?
Half true. He said he didn't have the money for a PS5 but also said he blew all his money living lavishly in Japan as well as gambling.
To put the money they earn into perspective: Ruze, one of the newest members, lives in a trailer park and was able to buy a home in Japan after about 3 or 4 months of monetization. This is also without the good faith buff Axel's gen experienced.

>>78107239
Can say that about every catelog thread ever.

>>78111536
I was one of his boomer fans and I still like him just fine. The thing is I didnt ask for omegafaggot to put off EN3 for Holostars even fi I did enjoy Magni and Vesper. They should have stayed what stars always was a side project to just give some extra content to people that wanted something different

>>78109748
Oh, they were two different people? Both models looked literally the same so i always thought one was a pl name or something.
FUcking lmao, cant the homos get some variety in their models?

>>78107797
One of them has untreated mental illness the other wanted to leech off of Pekora and Marine.

>>78112371
>buy a home in Japan
Anon, what are you smoking? He went to Japan for HoloEXPO along with the rest of them, but definitely didn't move there permanently.

>>78112371
>Homobeggars lying through their teeth to make it seem like their faggots aren't complete flops
Disingenuous fucks

>>78112371
What the fuck? Why are people still wanting to support him if he is just going to blow all his money on prostitutes and gambling

>>78110994
Gura, Ina, and Mori all delayed membership badges so that happened with most of Myth. The entire situation with Sana having frequent health breaks seems awfully similar to Nijisanji stealth suspensions. Ina not only went on a health break where she went completely radio silent but was openly talking about graduation.

I wouldn't put that much faith in Cover and their main concern is revenue. They gladly returned to bilibili so they can shill Hololive merch.

>>78107094
Vesper or Magni? Because not Magni is more popular than Magni

>>78112683
So what are the lies?

>>78112687
Because you're very stupid and are blindly believing posts on 4chan when another anon already called him out on saying something stupid/a straight lie just above you.

>>78111405
imagine an esport team join tour and before the tour start half the team quit, yea they have the right to quit but they for sure fuck the team hard.

>>78112750
its funny how people only take into account his stream ccv. dude is doing very well as a regular youtuber.

>>78112229
>join a corpo that religiously bans skin showing
>surprised when he cant show skin
? ? ? ?

>>78112635
Anon, he quite literally said he bought a home there. He also said he isn't ready to move yet.
>>78112683
>seething because her shitposts were wrong
KEK
>>78112687
Retarded oshi, retarded fans

>>78113176
He would not be the only person to join Holo and then later admit that he doesn't know anything about vtubers or holo.
There's been like 9 who have across JP EN and ID and Stars

>>78113252
Still baffles the mind that this retard didnt do his research, the other retards too infact

>>78112732
Too obvious, Nijisubhuman

>>78113176
>>78113288
>Doesn't remember when Mori said she didn't know what Holo or vtubers really were at debut
More recently, Bettel said he knew nothing about Holostars at all and Altare had to give him a big powerpoint rundown before his debut.

>>78112922
The reason he joined holostars was because he was dooming about his youtube. His scripted coombait content does better than his regular streams, that's why everyone shits on him.

>>78113252
other don't know vtuber as a whole. you say magni don't know vtuber??? he make clip about marine before he join moron. are you even his fan?

>>78113372
Never watched mori so how would i remember something ive never heard.
At least that guy sat down and put effort into learning that shit before debut.

>>78106541
It's been almost a full year since he left and this board is STILL seething about him

He's gone.
It's over.
Get the fuck over it already

>>78113399
I never said he didn't know what Vtubers are ESLchan. I said he doesn't know much about vtubers or the Holo rules.

>>78113427
This is something only people on /jp/ would remember so sorry I forgot 90% of this board are post Council/Advent newfags

>>78106541
This retards quitting and hololive firing all the unity management that tried to compete against nijiEN were the best decisions ever made by the company

>>78112922
Yeah, even my friends that don't watch vtubers suddenly sent me a video of not Magni.

>>78113427
those retard is tourist. magni make clip about hololive before joining. that why other say he want to leach off marine and pekora

>>78113489
Ah yes, ye old, doesnt watch mori = must be new assumption

>>78113442
they are more obsessed with them two than the actual sisters who watched them in the past.
ive seen people talk more about magni and vesper in the one year they were gone than Sana the past 2 years, including when she was still around.

>>78113538
>>78113399

>>78112922
Then why is he in debt?

>>78113558
You stupid newfag I don't watch mori either but all vtuber discussion was contained in ONE THREAD on /jp/, and mori not knowing about vtubers was talked about all the time even when she wasn't streaming.
Obviously people have stopped talking about it since, but if you were on /jp//hlgg/ you would've seen discussion about it.

So yes, you are a fucking stupid newfag and you don't need to watch mori to be one

>>78109748
I'll forever miss Kira, tried watching his PL but he doesn't act like a fag there.

>>78113653
Ah yes, ye old, if you dont spend every waking moment in the /jp/ general you only joined hololive fandom after advent shtick

>>78113594
admit defeat? don't have anything to counter that right?

>>78111902
According to mousey, Cover does a background check on anyone who wants to collab with the girls. The fact that daph managed to get a collab with the homos means that the standards for collab partners are way lower for them than the girls.

>>78112732
I'm almost certain that the reason why most of HoloEn was getting burnt out and seriously considered graduation was because omega was being an ass and none of them could communicate how fucked up the situation is to management, except for maybe Kiara but being the runt everyone just thought she was just being an attention whore. Everything changed after the Uh oh tweet and after HoloEN were finally able to go to Japan. Yagoo even mentioned that he would start joining EN meetings to practice his English (kek) and Achan even started taking over the role that Omega should have been doing for EN. The 2 years of COVID autism from Cover allowing some faggot Troon to turn HoloEn into Nijisanji (remember when Subaru said that EN management emphasized talents being streamers?) almost killed HoloEn as a whole.
>I wouldn't put that much faith in Cover and their main concern is revenue.
Anon if they were as money hungry as you think they are, the homostars wouldn't even have a concert this year, or waste precious studio time. Honestly, the only use that the homos have is being a morality check for Cover since any normal company would have spun the branch off years ago instead of burning cash on those losers.
>They gladly returned to bilibili so they can shill Hololive merch.
I think you got it the other way around. Bilibili is the one begging cover this time and throwing a king's ransom their way. The fact that they invited Saruei of all people, someone who directly insulted Xinnie the pooh live on stream, and dared China to cancel her tells you how desperate they are and how absolutely fucked the vtuber scene over there has been since Holo left.

>>78106541
Why did mori like this fag so much, he did everything people accused mori would do once she got into holo.

>>78114002
>he did everything people accused mori would do
such as?

>>78113839
Well said

>>78113839
funny that when Saruei throw out, they all gonna go silent. i see so many time. or they turn to insult. they can't even form a rrat that explain why B2 invite Saruei.

>>78113586
I think it's a mixture of unicorns upset that they existed in the first place, sisters who feel that they betrayed the other Tempus members, and some others who genuinely did like them but have been disappointed with how they wasted their chance. I'm personally part of the 3rd one. Anyone saying that those two didn't have talent are fibbing. But that makes it worse for me since they wasted the chance. It's like seeing a really good basketball player (Ja) who was primed for greatness and was suppose to be next in line. Only for them to think that pretending to be a gangster was more important than generational fame and wealth.

>>78113839
Multiple girls have talked about 2022 being one of the worst years for them and that was the last year Omega was still around. I don’t think it was notGura’s tweet that scared management but she talked about how Marine helped her get in contact with JP management to help her out with things. I think that’s when they realized that something was wrong.

>>78114040
See >>78107094 retard

>>78113839
>>78114142
Despite being entirely weak circumstantial evidence, I can't help but feel that the whole Omegatroon rrat is completely true.

To add to that Kiara outright confirmed that something changed in management and basically "the future is bright" type of stuff, don't remember the source though.

>>78114142
could be because 3d concert too. the one thing change is cover reduce from 2 to 1 mandatory 3d concert.

>>78114281
>1 thing
That's "everything mori was accused of"?
>retard
I can't ask a question? Seems like it's good that I did because I don't even think you know what you're talking about

>>78114142
Getting into japan and actually talking to management with someone like Marine helping her was definitely when the real changes began. But theres no way that single tweet didn't sound some alarm bells over at Cover HQ.

>>78113613
dude is one of those people that everything has to be extremely expensive. He spent $700 on just eating out in one month.

>>78114040
trying to get hololive in contact with grifting fleshscum
to be fair mori tried that as well with charlie, but magni actually succeeded because omegatroon literally let these faggots do whatever the fuck they wanted

>>78114408
Are all the homos bad with money or something? The girls still act and spend like poorfags even though they are making six figures easily

>>78114497
Connor isn't fleshscum now?

>>78114370
Oh no I could go into detail but you see theres a janny that likes to hand out vacations for talking bad about his oshi. Just go do some archive reps

>>78114542
Mori orders out food MULTIPLE times a day
Ame is seemingly moving every second week and bought 3D cameras worth tens of thousands of dollars for the lulz
Kiara bought her own house

I dunno about being "bad with money", but they definitely do spend a fuckton.

>>78114593
He is and it was a fucking mistake, but at the very least his content is anime-adjacent/"weeb"

>>78114542
I don't think Magni was bad with money necessarily. He has medical school debt.
Likewise, Shinri has college debt from earning 3 separate degrees. He might be playing up the tired, poorfag, boomer persona since he's the oldest by a pretty large margin on top of taking a flight to Japan, then taking another flight to Indonesia, then flying back to Japan.
Only Axel is really bad with money.

>>78114497
>trying to get hololive in contact with grifting fleshscum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9qlbpIezo

>>78114749
My post was more of a rhetorical response to the
>magni actually succeeded because omegatroon literally let these faggots do whatever the fuck they wanted
part than an actual question.

wait Magni is doing stuff now? Once he left, I didnt bother to keep up with him. The orc is okay every once and awhile I guess.

>>78114301
At this point is not even a rrat, omega and his friends in management were fucking bullshit and they tried to ruin holoEN, the only ones left are some of the CM in the holoproEN twitter. Omega saw that luxiem and the other homo wave of NijiEN was being popular and went all out to try to copy them, organized meetings with all the girls only so they could meet the homos and tried to get as many holos to give the homos free advertisement, meanwhile the girls weren't getting shit and the girls literally got forced to do their events along with the homos, trying to not overlap them or to stop them early (Gura saying that she couldn't stream on certain days because the homos were debuting, one of the worst ones was the halloween event from Ina transforming some of the girls into hag and lolis, but since there was some delays, the stream was 1 hour long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XCgVISU5-c and you can see at the end how Ina is trying to cut the stream off as fast as she can, probably pressured by management while the girls were having fun and could've continue for more hours). If we start talking about how IRyS was treated by Omega's management (most of them were in project hope) we could be talking for days, nowadays every single person from the EN management that worked with her are literally fired, especially her awful manager. And there's everyone saying how management got better, how they have now a management team for HOLOLIVE ONLY and HOMOS ONLY, how things are getting better, etcetc. Firing that piece of shit was the best decision

>>78113186
Get me clip/timestamp, since I'm almost certain it's bullshit.

>>78114542
Vesper, Hakka, Flayon, Altare and Bettel seem to be alright with money. Don't know about the new guys though.

>>78106541
How isit a lie, he said he love Tempus, not cover, not holopro. The remaining 2 members still speak of him fondly, they even mention meeting up with him in nipland not long ago.

>>78114749
>his grift is anime-adjacent/"weeb"
That doesn’t make it any better, his kind are the worst kind of leeches

>>78116211
its funny how /vt/ wants the guys to treat them like how gen 3 treats Rushia.
Hell even the orc mentioned he hung out with the clown and magni irl this year. sometimes things dont work out for people but for the most part things seem cordial between all of them kek you wouldve thought the two of them killed all their parents or something the way people cry about it.

>>78116527
>its funny how /vt/ wants the guys to treat them like how gen 3 treats Rushia.
Even that died recently when Noel said she still loves Rushia, rrats aren't breeding so they are getting feisty.

>>78115457
>Gura saying that she couldn't stream on certain days because the homos were debuting
and now she snipes biboo like the cunt she is.

>>78116608
sisters need a new graduation/termination real quick. Mel was too much of a nothingburger for them to squeeze anything out of.

>>78106541
To be fair around the 6-8 month mark Magni started to lie to his fans a lot more often which was the warning sign that he was going to quit after a year. He was starting to miss membership wallpaper deadlines, ditched streams after 1 hour to have fortnite sex with Bettel and was less enthusiastic about being a part of Holostars in general. I just wish he never joined if he was going to quit anyway because someone who genuinely loved Holostars could have gotten his spot instead and lasted way longer. Now I'm just left with muddled resentment that's slowly going away. I can actually look at starsEN streams again without reminding myself of what happened.

>>78117098
None of them genuinely loved Holostars you retarded homobeggar. You really think they oshi'd failures like Miyabi or Aruran?

>>78111405
>That's your problem, becoming an anti because of that is insane, go to therapy or something.
Huh? Not watching a certain YouTube channel makes me an anti of it? I don't resent and complain about their existence, dude. In fact I wish them all the best. I'm just not personally interested enough to watch them myself.

>>78117607
>Homobeggar
How is my post homobegging? I didn't even mention the girls or try to shill anyone. I'm just speaking about Holostars.

>>78117607
Shut up anon

Geez are these threads made by sisters/drama anons or did these two mind break vt this bad? They left 1 year and a half ago.

>>78118211
It's just a buzzword antis throw around with no actual meaning. Next up is "sister"

>>78118992
That makes sense.

so.. we still maggin'?

>>78114318
>could be because 3d concert too. the one thing change is cover reduce from 2 to 1 mandatory 3d concert.
That was this year, and 3d Lives have never ever been mandatory.
If a holo wanted they could choose to never do a 3d birthday live or anniversary live ever. Some were doing both + Fes + invites to multiple other holos' Lives ever single year. Cover is changing it now, and it's still not mandatory but now the only chance for an individual 3d Live in the studio for free on YT (not a one-man live with paid for tickets at a venue) is for a bday. Anniversaries seem to be grouped by Gen now but that's up to the gens to organise.

>>78106955
Blame management for fucking him and Vesper over so hard, they quit and never looked back

>>78106955
the same fan still follows him

>>78123534
Weak cope

>>78115457
>1. HoloEN were not getting along with management because some of them were asking for model redesigns that was even a huge issue with the first Tempus gen.
>2. HoloEN are secret unicorns that were fighting a war against Omega, the first EN project manager, because they hated the guys and every Holostars collab was forced on them.
I know some anons want to believe option 2 but I have the feeling that option 1 is more likely.

>>78110673
they dont miss Vesper, they miss self inserting as Vesper
turns out he's just another loser with a drinking problem and self reliance of weed

>>78125613
I think the third option being management are aggressive suits that threaten and suspend members who fall out of line makes more sense

>>78110024
he's male. of course anyblack will be better.