/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>78055038
>[...] and we do not Mr./Ms. incorporate numerical growth [...]
nahone janai

>our solution to rebuilding NijiEN is to ignore NijiEN and focus more on NijiJP
BRAVO RIKU

>>78055038
>>78055151
Thats's just another way of saying downsizing until Niji EN is being shut altogether.

How are they going to rebuild it when the prime malignants are still there? Ignoring the obviously disarming wording, what can they even do BUT nuke the branch?
>Terminate the three stooges
That’d be 2/4th’s of Luxiem, a no-go for certain, as well as the “new” daisenpai, the one in every fucking piece of merch, ever.
>Terminate the clique
That’s like what, twelve or fourteen organs? I’m onboard for it, but there’s no way that can work without every single chuuba outlet mocking you forever. Good luck explaining how you got rid of 3/4ths of the roster, too.
>Provide more resources
Okay, this thought made me laugh. Imagine Riku actually paying for anything.
>Expansion
No.

>>78055038
re-rebuild it

>>78055038

>>78055038
If it doesn't work out, It'll just mean Niji EN was negligible anyways.

>>78055394
All those wouldn't work but publicly dragging DokiHeard to court and proving their innocence would

>>78055038
The same thing that's happened to every other foreign branch in Nijisanji.

>>78055151
If they're not planning on apologising or fixing anything (and they're not) then the next best option is to pretend nothing happened, cut costs, and wait until enough time passes that there's a sizeable base of clueless newbies to market to instead
This works every time for every company because the only people bitter enough to complain about things after 3-5 years are also usually autistic enough that nobody takes them seriously

>>78055528
>DokiHeard
Ah, you’e one of “those”, I presume? Immaterial to that, however, how do you expect them to “win” in court, exactly? I’m talking strategy, not a headcanon.

>>78055528

>>78055640
>>and wait until enough time passes that there's a sizeable base of clueless newbies to market to instead
Six weeks from Sunday, I’m certain.

>>78055640
you can literally just link them the asmongold video

>>78055693
Defamation by crying harassment when the staff was only doing their job and the members were only asking questions. Only an internet lawyer wouldn't be able to win a case that clear cut

>>78055038
The way they're talking around the question really, honestly sounds like they already regard the branch as a dead man walking. They're saying they're not even trying to revive it anymore, and it was simply ignored in the report (because it single-handedly nudges down the YoY of the entire fucking company but the data looks great if you ignore it).

>>78055801
>Tsurui : The question is, "Please tell us about your overseas growth strategy, especially the measures you plan to take in English-speaking countries."

>Tagami : For example, we held an AR live concert in the fourth quarter, and more recently we've been working on a 3D debut broadcast and "NIJI ENcounter," a music content project in which pairs of people create and release songs.

>The AR Live has been viewed by many more people than we expected. Of course, we recognize that there have been some changes in our audience's behavior, but we have once again recognized that there is a certain number of people who continue to support us, and we will first focus on those people.

>In addition, in terms of profits, we have customers in many different countries, regions and cultural spheres, so we need to take measures that are different from the ones we have taken in Japan so far. In terms of expanding sales channels and acquiring clients to sell to, we will leverage our methods a little differently from those we have taken in Japan

As we all know, Dokifags are the biggest cherry pickers out there

>>78055038
If their plans are to "rebuild" and not to "clear their name", isn't this an implicit admission that Doki and Sayu were right?

>>78055790
If the 'case' was clear cut they would have sued and won by now yet here we are

>>78056121
You are a retard

>>78056216
>Implying they aren't in the process of suing right now
Stay retarded, Dokicucks

damn
if only they had two all-star talents who could reliably attract and retain new viewers and work hard to do original projects/events to keep fans happy, widening the popular appeal of the branch as a whole

>>78056275
>4 months later for an allegedly clear cut case
>Doki still streaming unbothered
Hmmmm

>>78056363
they were negligible

>>78056363
They were never interested in viewership per se, all they want is to squeeze merch money out of subhuman fat women
Their new "event spam" was a cope to manipulate Q4 report and scam investors, now that it's done they'll go back to doing nothing except mass-produce chink merch

>>78056363
>bully talented people into quitting while keeping the shitters
bravo Niji

>>78055151
That and doing their best to ignore the shitstorm in February are their only two viable options at this point in time. Ideally, the company would have never released multiple statements doubling down on their stance on top of the black frame stream, but the next best thing they could have done would be to apologize to her early on in a heartfelt way.
That didn't happen and it probably won't happen due to the growing number of disgruntled ex-talents who would also complain about not getting proper apologies for their mistreatment. And with how there's tons of ex-talents being openly bitter about how the company fucked them over in one way or another, it's doubtful that Anycolor will likely apologize in public or in private any time soon.

>>78056275
I almost want them to do this, the discovery phase would be absolutely hilarious.
Also Discord keeps their log of "deleted" messages, and will provide it if requested by court. Just saying.

>>78055038
tl;dr
>We don't have plans to boost NijiEN's growth
>We are going to keep focusing on 3D events (debuts, maybe concerts if we need to sell some extra merch) and tournaments (the Mario Kart stream)

It's pretty funny how, even putting Selen's drama aside, they don't have any kind of plan to stop NijiEN's decline. It really shows how much they rely on the talents themselves to keep the branch alive. They will keep using the shotgun approach to debut new waves, milk the merch, and not care about properly supporting the talents and helping them grow.

People hoping that Nijisanji will wake up one morning, have a change of heart, apologize to Selen, and start fixing things are just delusional. There's nothing broken, everything is working by design. The company is just a massive sweatshop.

>>78057025
>they don't have any kind of plan to stop NijiEN's decline
they actually did. Didn't you notice how much shit they gave the branch for their 3rd anniversary? They even created a webpage with all the things they did. That was the revitalization plan.
It's not that they didn't have a plan, the plan just failed

>>78057025
The part where they address the "fandom backlash" is also funny
>graduations and scandals? yeah they're a big risk. our plan is to do more black streams and character assassination tweets like we've always done

>>78057025
This will unironically work because they've successfully captured the base of retarded delusional Kpop fans. These subhuman sisters are still milkable, and you can bet your ass Niji will do everything they can to drain them of every penny. Once that dries up then they will kill the branch

>>78055790
It's actually quite difficult to prove defamation in a North American court

>>78056500
The Manchester United classic

>>78055038
>In regards of EN plans, we do not have EN plans
ABSOLUTE KEKISTAN XD! Thry factially gave up.

>>78057104
I mean, it wasn't a plan to grow the branch, all that stuff were events that were previously cancelled, delayed or personal projects for individual talents (the duets) that have been repurposed. The 3rd anniversary was a scuffed reaction to try to show the fans that they care for the branch, but the only ones who gave a fuck were the few remaining sisters who drank the kool aid.

>>78056784
full img? I have meat to tug.

>>78055038
>How do you plan to rebuild EN
>We don't plan on it, we're going to focus on JP
GRIM

>>78057145
>Graduation is a risk
Confirmed hostages. We should call the Jew for this.

>>78055038
more like rebuild holoEN kek

holoseethe some more incels

>>78057986
Don't be shy, explain everyone what you are talking about

>>78057986
Hololive out of nowhere

>>78057697
Filesize is too large to post so here
https://files.catbox.moe/7fy64z.png

>>78056784
I don't know how strict/long their NDA's are, or how real the thread of lawsuits is, but I think they can consider themselves lucky that most of the ex-Nijis are cowards who don't want "drama". Based on all evidence we can only imagine what absolute bullshit sociopath behavior goes on behind the scenes on a constant basis.

Only one willing to leak their dirty laundry is Sayu, but she wasn't there long enough to farm dirt on the inter-personal side.

>>78058265
tyvm anon. good mint lewds are hard to find.

I wonder how the EN organs feel knowing that their boss basically told the world they don't matter

>>78055528
if anything, Doki's the Depp in this analogue, being the very popular talent that was spitefully slandered about by someone they used to be 'close' to and abused by
The only difference is that we all immediately believed Doki and realized NijiEn/Elira, Vox and Ike are full of shit, while it took a little while for most of us to realize that Heard was a liar

>>78056687
>>78056720
>>78056759
>>78056804
>>78056849
Riku speech was translated

>>78059010
>Finally, our long-term vision. We believe that the logical end point of the VTuber market is the Japanese animation industry, a market on the continuum from TV, radio, and movies to SNS and "YouTube". Therefore, we believe that the next target for VTubers should be the domestic animation market.
...They are not characters, they are streamers.

>>78056829
That alone is probably why Niji would never attempt to sue Doki, even if she was the "lying fat menhera BPD bitch" sisters like to pretend she is
Not only would the discovery and discord logs prove definitively that the work environment is toxic, but all their other shady practices would be exposed too

>>78059151
Does that mean he violated the slide he so loves to show that their organs are not anime characters?

>>78055640
They did apologize. Riku 90-degree bowed about the whole incident. The problem is, the black stream was a big gallon of gasoline poured onto the bonfire right after the CEO humbled himself to try to put it out.
This is probably why Elira is so stressed out right now, the a major cause of the branch's current state is sitting on her channel in broad daylight. What a horrible, horrible fucking idea that stream was.

>>78059247
>They did apologize. Riku 90-degree bowed about the whole incident.
They didn't, watch Riku's apology again.

>>78059215
Gotta love the
>Not idol
>Excludes risk/scandals related to personal
After everything that has happened in NijiEN.

>>78055952
>As we all know, Dokifags are the biggest cherry pickers out there
so true oomfie, niji en is actually doing great, especially twisty with her $20~ per stream supas despite just debuting. they're killin it out there

>>78059151
Nijisanji would give the graduated IPs to new talents if they could get away with it. They will probably try it at some point.

>>78059418
she literally made more this week than Doki lol

>>78059422
It would save then money since they wouldn't have to get a new model drawn and rigged so I wouldn't put it past them

>>78055038
>Rebuild NijiEN
All Luxiem ads around China & Philippines. Don't bother with the rest, my PayPal is available, Riku.

>>78059508
Did she though?

>>78059330
They really just meant "excludes risks related to talent personal relationships". It's not even true anyway, because even if you don't call yourself an idol parts of your fanbase (lucrative parts) will still become gachikoi unless you filter them from day one.

>>78055952
> The AR Live has been viewed by many more people than we expected
Damn, did they expect it to be empty?

>>78059330
>image
what the fuck is this ESL nonsense

>>78059508
Why lying about such easily disprovable facts?

>>78059508
This was literally just from Doki's stream yesterday

>>78059508
anon, she's selling merch out the ass, has tons of sponsorships, tons of members and made almost a hundred grand on her redebut and the days following. then ad revenue on top of all that. oh, and she gets to keep all of it. the fact that you need to be this disingenuous and dishonest just to put forth an "argument" says it all, really

>>78059508
You coped so hard you actually started believing it. Nijisisters on life support.

>>78059923
They finally share something with their organs kek

>>78059508
Lying or retarded
Which is it?

>>78060535
Yes.

>>78055790
More like staff doing fuck all. That aside, if it was such a slam dink case why didn't they pursue it?

>>78055952
>certain number of people who continue to support us, and we will first focus on those people.
>we need to take measures that are different from the ones we have taken in Japan so far
>we will leverage our methods a little differently from those we have taken in Japan
These appear contradictory but it implies they realise their black stream/letter comms failed due to nobody outside of JP respecting "the company" more than the talent and yet will continue to pander to nijisisters/company stans as they probably view the core audience as impossible to regain. Or they're full of shit, it's fascinating, really.
>>78059667
It would explain a lot if they just plainly never believed EN was profitable, and this being the underlying reason for 3d delays and event cancellation (instead of it being """COVID"""). That would be contradicting their previous report though, unless they had some retarded master plan before the reckoning that is now considered unfeasible.
Or they're just full of shit.

>>78055038
>What happens when this doesn't work out?
We already know what will happen from their track record OP

>>78061971
(sad croak)

>>78056363
Any Vtuber agency would have shit themselves 10x over just to have a Selen or Pomu. NijiEN is the biggest dumbass in the biz for pushing them away.

>>78055528
You know as far as that analogy goes, you do remember which of the two in that scenario sent out a hit piece when the other side just wanted to divorvce, right?

>>78062228
Holofags always freak out when you dare insult their girls, but having watched numerous agencies, I believe the initial distribution of talent was fairly even.
Initially, NijiEN and HoloEN had pretty much the same distribution of talent amongst themselves. Some good ones, some bad ones, some in the middle.
The same can be said for the smaller EN corpos, although the standard is lower, since it's admittedly harder for a tiny startup to attract top tier personalities. But all of those startups initially had roughly the same distribution of talent.

Over time, things changed. NijiEN lost their best talent, and started systematically hiring people who were a bad fit. The contributed to a huge decline in the quality of NijiEN talents, while HoloEN remained rather consistent.
With the smaller EN corpos, the transfer of talent was more straightforward. The mismanaged corpos went bust, and Phase Connect hired all their best talents, like a vampire. So now Phase Connect basically consists of a concentration of all the best talents from the small corpo sphere.

Based on the choices the corpos have made, the distribution of talent changes.
But honestly you can't say "you're so lucky to have a Gura", when you had Pomu. Just like Cyberlive can't say "you're so lucky to have Pippa" when they had Lumi. It's not that you had worse talents, you just had worse management.

>>78062904
Pomu didn't gave a god tier singing voice though
Pomu was basically Kiara with a better model.

>>78056363
Vox and Luca are still there tho??? Hello???

>>78064733
Dependence on transient chink fujos never works out

>>78064946
Oh yeah then why is holo pandering to fujochinks now LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>78062904
Trying to claim Pomu was a match for Gura just makes you seem like a Pomu anti inviting people to shit on her, kek.
It's like saying the 23rd best batter in the MLB is roughly a match for Shohei Ohtani. It's not a fair comparison at all.

>>78065056
Yeah Pomu actually streams unlike gura

>>78065110
If the only bad thing you can possibly even imagine to say about someone is that people can't get enough of them and demand far, far outstrips supply, what does that really say?

>>78064574
>didn't gave
It's always the ESLs

>>78065023
>holo girls
>pandering to fujos
So desperate for a chance to clown on Hololive you sold your last braincell?

>>78064574
Sorry but gura's singing is shit, especially compared to Kiara (and also Mori).

>>78065173
That's called "artificial scarcity".

>>78065173
That Gura is a lazy sack of shit?

>>78065223
>Implying a Nijisis had any to begin with

>>78064733
>bfe flip flopper and sexpest prime
kek

>>78055038
This was a core issue with EN since before the doki thing. Niji EN had already been declining for a while, in large part due to stagnation. Management took far too long with getting them 3D + AR live was canceled. Just very obvious they were never a serious branch to anycolor, despite the success. What kept niji alive for so long was selen doing what management was supposed to be doing by organizing huge events and projects. Now they have nothing.

>>78058433
For what it's worth, every former Niji aside from Kyo doing better outside the company and Anycolor becoming the biggest enemy of the Vtubing fanbase since China are big enough wins already.

>>78055038
>How do you plan to rebuild Nijisanji EN?
>We plan to grow Nijisanji JP.
Man I can't wait to use this when sisters get rowdy again.

>>78055038
Rebuild of NijiENgelion 2.0: You Can (Not) Graduate

>>78067976
kek

>>78067976
>Rebuild of NijiENgelion: 1.0 There Is (No) Harassment.
>Rebuild of NijiENgelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Fucking Ask.

>>78055394
>the “new” daisenpai
elira was always the daisenpai.

>>78055038
Elira gets another headache and period cramp.
>What's that? She's pregnant? And you don't know which ojisan is the dad?
Well at least she won't have period cramps for nine months

>>78055528
Naw, it's Dokidepp. Niji is the one that shit the bed

>>78066849
Took her for granted. Its like there is no one there to help run a business.

>>78056829
Exactly. That's why Doki started screeching about sending receipts but then mysteriously decided it against it once she found out she had public opinion. It's almost like the discord screenshots prove there was no harassment

>>78067976
>>78069146
Yo, you guys aren't gonna make me wait ten years for 3+1 are you?

>>78071107
So, again. Why haven't they taken her to the cleaners?

>>78059247
That isn't an apology by western (ideally the primary audience) standards; the drama, motion, and fluff might work in Japan, but passing and ignoring the primary manner isn't an apology elsewhere

>>78071107
>It's almost like the discord screenshots prove there was no harassment

>>78071107
> once she found out she had public opinion
?

>>78062315
Correct, Niji just wanted her to leave after she did her job while Selen pulled the DokiHeard. She
>Has BPD
>Secretly records men with the intention of using the recording in court
>Main tactic to win public opinion is to throw themselves a pity party instead of acknowledging actual points
>Claims to have evidence but refuses to ever actually show it despite saying she would
>Has a history of lying
>Attempts to blackmail others
>Has retarded lawyers
>Is a talentless hack who only gets anything because her pity party led her to knowing people
>Goes after the other's money and is particularly spiteful

DokiHeard much?

>>78071352
>Unsourced, unproven discord screenshot
>Still no proof any members ever harassed her
You faggots can't even make up evidence right?

>>78055038
WHO THE FUCK CARES ITS ALL ABOUT THE STOCKS AND INVESTORS

TO THE MOON BABY, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

>>78072005
Yes I'm sure Anycolor has the receipts proving all of that, and will waste no time in suing Doki into destitution over it.
>"Discovery?" What's that? Does it taste good on pizza?

>>78055151
I'm sure many JP fans clapped to that.

>>78072287
Please explain how discovery will prove anything but that Doki is addicted to spreading slanderous lies against people like her family

>>78072005
Actually retarded

It's the same shit he said in March. He's out of touch.
As for losing core fans, they said it was negligible.

no one wants discovery to happen, because not only management but the talents will be put at risk. i dont believe the company would be that stupid.

>>78073051
>I really really want for them to not sue my DokiHeard! Please save us , discovery! Please uncover Nijisanji's ritual circle and prove they made a deal with the devil!
Tick tock, dokikeks

>>78073156
They can't sue. What would they even sue over?

>>78072005
Rent Free.

>>78073156
you sure you have enough hours on that clock of yours? you're gonna be waiting a long time

>>78073467
Defamation, this was already said. Keep up
>>78073478
I accept your concession

Wait why did anycolor's stock price jump up? I've been out of the loop.

>>78073568
defamation where?

>>78073635
Because they can't stop WINNING BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>78062904
Pretty much. Gura has very little talent but Cover maximized her appeal. Having her stream once a year is very much a strategic decision to make every Gura stream into an event, since otherwise people will quickly get bored of her shtick.
Anycolor horribly mismanaged NijiEN by wasting Pomu and Selen's talents and ambition instead favoring shilling Luxiem. Now the branch lost all its worthwhile members except Rosemi. Obviously if your "box" has no good talents then the entire box suffers as a result. You inherently need strong people like Pomu to keep casual viewers engaged. Same thing with Holo, they really need hardworking people like Kiara to keep the fanbase engaged while Gura is on vacation. Otherwise you simply get forgotten as a group.

>>78073568
I'm not a Canadian, so I don't know their defamation laws, but if it's anything like the us, they don't have a case

>>78062904
The problem is that the sisters seem to not understand that employment should be a two-way street. You don't join Nijisanji for the privilege of giving 98% of your money to Riku's yacht fund.

Their jobs is to promote and support you to maximize your potential. Instead all they do is sit on their asses, shit on your projects that YOU have to pay for, and then cry foul because you're not "loyal enough." There's a fucking reason why Hololive has over half of their roster above 1 million subs, while out of Nijisanji's ENTIRE 300+ organ roster, only 9 have ever reached that milestone. And one of them was treated so awfully they ran to fucking Indonesia.

>>78074153
>Gura has very little talent
stopped reading there, kys sis

>>78073635
the company bought back shares

>>78074878
saying 'a' is not a talent. the girl has zero good song covers or orisongs either.
go back to /r/hololive if you feel the need to stan a virtual anime girl to fit in.

>>78056495
>all they want is to squeeze merch money out of subhuman fat women
Then why do they hire females at all?

>>78059330
I love how they use Shachou, the guy who quite literally got into one of the worst blowups in the entire company when he posted his full name and credit card number in one of his very first streams, leading to his previous job and home being found and him having to move almost three times a year every year for his entire career as a result.

>>78073770
>>78074168
A false statement was made: Being harassed and bullied by the company. The members of the company breaking the law. The music video not being put back up because management.
Damages done: Documented evidence of damage to their reputation and to their sponsorships. Documented cases of harassment to the members of Niji which interferes with their work

She'd fucking lose

>>78075645
I don't know if they have this in your backwater southeast asian country, but there's this legal idea of the truth being an absolute defense.

>>78074153
>that whole gura cope
nijisis...

>>78075645
Cool, so when is anycolor gonna sue her?

>>78074878
She's bog standard as a singer and an extremely mediocre streamer. Please stop being blinded by numbers.

>>78075645
You aren’t even citing the important part, you troglodyte. Whether Selen told the truth or lied, it doesn’t matter to Japan. As long as the statement being pointed out as defamation can proved to hold intent to harm their image, Niji could potentially win.

Selen oould be telling the truth and she’d still lose. That’s how stupid Japan is.

>>78075975
>can't go for criticism beyond weak shit like calling someone mediocre
sounds like cope to me, weird how she managed to go viral like 3 times before holo even

>>78075975
>bog standard
Sure
>mediocre streamer
Sure
>do we care
No.

The fact is that Gura’s one of the Vtubers on top of the world because of perfect timing and proper support. Luck plays into everyone’s lives. Seethe about how you get less.

>>78055038
They can still turn things around. They just need to understand foreign culture and how to appeal to a foreign audience. What works in the domestic market isn't necessarily going to work in the foreign market. If they just change how they do things, they could easily win back the western audience.

>>78076004
>Niji could potentially win.
This isn't even right, as they'd still lose the case: they'd just be able to claim damages in it so the money from winning would be less or they'd be able to submit a counterclaim afterwards. I'm not saying that sister is right or that the law isn't stupid, it absolutely fucking is, but even in their peaSEAbrained scenario she still wouldn't lose the case.

>>78059247
Bowed to the investors that is

>>78059727
niji interns are all ESLs at best, what are you expecting?

>>78076114
Making a viral meme song isn't indicative of quality. I've watched easily over 100 vtubers, JP and English, and Gura's nothing special. She simply does everything decently and debuted in the right place at the right time. She's the Beatles of the EN Vtubing scene.

>>78074153
honestly not even chumbuds are delusional enough to think the gura breaks are some 5D master plan like this retard over here, hololive is not dumb enough to make a bunch of fans disgruntled af for a couple streams with more viewers, the simplest explanation is that gura can get away for those hiatus and she gpt lazy because of it

>>78075783
Cool. Prove she's telling the truth. Good old innocent until proven guilty. And no, overlapping someone isn't bullying
>>78075925
They're in the process. They basically said it themselves

>>78055394
You transition towards a merge that pushes out at least a portion of your problem people, then relaunch as NijiGlobal with a set of new fresh faces.

>>78076402
>d-doesn't count
weird how this "right place right time" happened like 3 times in a row

>>78076004
>NOOOOOOOO! YOU GOTTA ME LET DAMAGE YOUR REPUTATION SO I CAN SUE YOU AND GET RICH! STUPID JAPAN!

And a hamburger hamburger hot dog to you too, my American friend!

>>78076468
>They're in the process. They basically said it themselves
When did they say it? you got links?

>>78076618
When they said they're openly taking legal actions against misinformation then handed out a cease and desist to the menhera hag and took down dramafag clips of the AR live

>>78076561
does your tongue gets tired from licking corpo boots all day?

It’s shit like this that baffles me to no end how Anycolor’s stock is higher than Covers. Who in the actual fuck is investing in a company like this that openly admits to having no potential for foreign expansion?

>>78076721
So when did they say they were suing Doki?

>>78076789
Based japs don't care about westoid trash.

>>78076789
Anycolor promises investors they'll make them money, which they do. That's all it is. Stock price isn't indicative of how well a company is run.

>>78075645
Just because you say something, that doesn't make it real...

>>78055038
This is why Elira was so glower, she got noticed that they are letting EN sink. She ate that blackscreen for nothing, and will live with the permanent mark on her profile. But all-in-all? Negligible for Riku's lifestyle, so its fine.

>>78075975
>Reflect 29M , King 37M
Im not even gonna talk about streaming cause you are really coping hard right now sister, hahahaha

>>78076721
Any day now I'm sure

>>78074831
>one of them was treated so awfully they ran to fucking Indonesia.
Who?

>>78077618
Mysta. But the reason he ran away to Indonesia is because he wasted all his money without paying land and home ownership taxes the absolute retard and now he can't go back to UK or else he's getting thrown in jail kek

>>78077618
Mysta

Have any of you morons actually read about defamation laws in Canada? Almost every publicly facing legal resource advises potential plaintiffs to seek alternatives to suing due to the relatively low bar that the defending party must clear, the low potential financial rewards, and the high costs. https://www.reputation.ca/defamation-lawsuit-cost-canada/

>>78077904
Only way to publicly prove your innocence is to have the person admit they were lying or drag them to court and show the records/footage

>>78073635
Remember the stock buyback in like december for 18 mil USD?
They did it again but 48mil.
After they made 55mil in net profit.

Sisters seriously think Niji is going to do anything to Doki after they Niji got humiliated by a couple of dramafaggots kek.

>>78075645
You aren't an Ork pagpag eater, you can't manifest things into reality.

>>78057181
Idolshitters are subhuman

>>78076561
The thing is that Doki's never even stated intent to sue. Neither has Niji. If Doki wanted to sue Niji, she'd have to sue them in Japan, which she would still likely win, but it'd take years and wouldn't be worth the stress or legal fees. If Niji wanted to sue Doki, though, they'd get absolutely buttfucked due to having to do it in Canada.
And remember, these are the complete morons who lost a case to fucking Narukami in Japan after the judge threw Narukami's case out the window.
Nobody wins if they try to sue. Except maybe Doki due to getting a second drama buff to work with.

>>78076721
That C&D is worthless. Raz already stopped talking about it ages ago. And then she went and forwarded that letter to someone who published the entire thing online, exposing how Nijisanji only established its little whistleblower program AFTER everything went down. It's an absolute mess and about as legally binding as toilet paper.

>>78055528
If they drag fokibird to court, they would look like shit no matter the result. People will frame it as niji bullying her again after the dust settled and then the government would start regulating vtubing because no government wants to be the one to have their cotozens dragged to other countries for court cases. Tje ultimate self-destruct move.

>>78075064
The law. It's illegal to hire all employees of one sex.

>>78078028
As far as I can tell, Canadian (and English Common Law in general) wouldn't even consider the contents of Dokibird's private accusations against Anycolor as grounds for a defamation suit, precisely because except for vague details, they remained just that, private. The details about those accusations that we know of came in large part from Anycolor itself, and the parts Dokibird revealed were vague enough to effectively be impossible to disprove. (Workplace harassment in Canadian law is both broader and better defined than it is in the US, but no court is going to take a general statement of "Anycolor as a company bullied me" as a legally meaningful either way.") If Anycolor is truly, well, telling the truth, they are far more likely to go after FalseEyed or even Zaion than Dokibird. And this is assuming that they genuinely think the law would be on their side.

>>78080192
Man, this is fucked up. Grifterbird can use all those dog whistles with her favorite drama tubers and friends in high places to signal the nature of her slander, but because she didn't make them PuBLiClY, she can get away with it and reap a fortune from simpleminded saviorfags at the expense of her former friends and coworkers. I she cackles behind the scenes so loud that her blubber vibrates at how well her evil plans worked.
If you are /here/ Dooki, so I have this to say to you, you so-called hero of western vtubing. I hope every time an ill gotten Canadian banknote passes into your pudgy fingers, you see the ruined prospects of all the innocent people you sacrificed; that every time you meet with one of your airheaded sponsors and useful idiots, one of the BPD voices in your head reminds you how that sponsorship deal rightfully belonged to one of your coworkers. Every deal, every dollar, every asset you retrieve from the smoldering ruins of your old alias, put to the torch by yours truly. Even if you have cleverly shielded yourself in the law's many loopholes, May these all remind you of who the REAL villain of this story is, and may you remember that Karma doesn't forget either.

>>78082106
The seethe from this post is something else

>>78082106
>May these all remind you of who the REAL villain of this story is, and may you remember that Karma doesn't forget either.
Yeah, karma sure doesn't.
That's why Finana just lost another 1000 subs today, barely beating out Elira this week for biggest loser.

>>78082106
NIJISEETHE

>>78082106
>but because she didn't make them PuBLiClY, she can get away with it
GEE maybe management should have thought about what they were doing before they put out that termination notice and approved the black screen stream. NIJISANJI were the ones to make it public, benefiting Doki. NIJISANJI are the ones you should be complaining about. If they had just kept private matters private, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!

>>78082106
I agree that Man, this is fucked up. Grifterbird can use all those dog whistles with her favorite drama tubers and friends in high places to signal the nature of her slander, but because she didn't make them PuBLiClY, she can get away with it and reap a fortune from simpleminded saviorfags at the expense of her former friends and coworkers. I she cackles behind the scenes so loud that her blubber vibrates at how well her evil plans worked.
If you are /here/ Dooki, so I have this to say to you, you so-called hero of western vtubing. I hope every time an ill gotten Canadian banknote passes into your pudgy fingers, you see the ruined prospects of all the innocent people you sacrificed; that every time you meet with one of your airheaded sponsors and useful idiots, one of the BPD voices in your head reminds you how that sponsorship deal rightfully belonged to one of your coworkers. Every deal, every dollar, every asset you retrieve from the smoldering ruins of your old alias, put to the torch by yours truly. Even if you have cleverly shielded yourself in the law's many loopholes, May these all remind you of who the REAL villain of this story is, and may you remember that Karma doesn't forget either.

>>78082106
>one of the BPD voices in your head
please tell me you don't think BPD sounds for BiPolar, and that you don't think bipolar is multiple personalities.

>>78082106 This what happens when SEAster manages to get a community college degree in English.

>>78080192
Nijisanji said they didn't harass anyone then Doki literally tweets out that they harassed and bullied her to suicide. That is grounds for defamation because she's making the claim. Don't be a retard

>>78082559
>Okay Nijisanji was the one who made that claim first when they read the private documents in the black stream BUT DOKI IS GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
>..for saying that to her lawyer and later on twitter
sisters
how do we collectively erase the black stream from public memory? I'm doing wiccan candle experiments but /x/ told me to try summoning a demon to help with it

>>78082773
I'm drawing pentagrams with my period blood (I am formerly a male)

>>78082559
>Nijisanji said they didn't harass anyone then Doki literally tweets out that they harassed and bullied her to suicide.
did sisters just forget that doki didn't announce that on twitter first and instead put that in private correspondence to Nijisanji's lawyers that they boneheadedly read aloud on stream and thus made public knowledge without her consent?

>>78082773
>>78082839
I read online that if you scream "DOOKIEBIRD IS A GRIFTING NAZI" into a mirror over and over again, the black stream gradually fades into existence. I've been doing it all day but I don't think it's done much, maybe all of us need to do it at once?

>>78075064
onaholes for the ones that make money

>>78082773
Quick history question. What came first? Her publicly accusing Nijisanji of bullying her to suicide or the black stream?

>>78083172
The termination announcement. Selen only revealed that she was in the hospital for an "attempt" AFTER the notice came out.

>>78083296 (me)
The termination announcement, which laid out the majority of what we know about Nijisanji's privating of the the MV and communication on the subject with her emergency contact during her hospitalization.*

>>78082559
https://x.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664?lang=en
someone point to where in dokibird's tweet that she mentioned nijisanji or anycolor by name? ain't nobody gonna win anything from a statement that vague, she could be talking about anyone

defamation is incredibly hard to prove, and unless there's evidence doki said some shit publicly about the company specifically, anycolor stands no chance in Canada

>>78083296
In which they said they didn't harass Selen. And she immediately accuses them of harassment. So she made the defamatory accusation. So she's getting sued. The court doesn't care about your regurgitated dramafag rrats, she was the one who accused them.
>>78083616
That is literally the first defense Heard's defense tried and was slammed down because people could obviously make the link between her and Niji. Don't make the DokiHeard comparisons more real

>>78083861
We're timelooping back to february today apparently.
Give it a rest, sister. Doki's never said anything about Nijisanji. Nijisanji is the one with the history of exploitation and abuse, and as such nobody fucking believes them about anything because they are known liars.

>>78083861
That statement still wouldn't pass muster as grounds for a defamation suit, as far as I can gather from available resources. Accusing a faceless corporation of harassment and leaving it at that appears to have about the same amount of legal recourse as does someone shouting a yo mama joke in your face. None.

>>78083861
>sister still writing fanfiction to this day

>>78084408
>yo momma joke
HOW DARE YOU

>>78082106
>but because she didn't make them PuBLiClY, she can get away with it
I mean, yeah. Even in this scenario where Doki's faking it and 100% in the wrong, she lawyered up and sent sealed documents instead of going public with it. And then Anycolor went public with the contents of said sealed documents. Even if the actual internal reason she got kicked was because she ate Elira's dog right in front of her, nothing would change so long as the events played out the same where Anycolor is the one who broke their legally agreed terms.

But more importantly, keep seething. The sooner you pop a blood vessel the better.

>>78055151
lmao they basically said "we won't do anything and let the broken ship sink"

>>78071107
She said she receipts for the lawyer case, you absolute retard.

>>78084408
>Accusing a corporation of harassing you to suicide isn't defamation because it isn't defamation
Circular reasoning

So what's the current cope from the shit poster/sisters? All I got from this is Niji doesn't even have a defamation case like they girls keep screeching about

>>78085125
>It's a shame I will have to make those receipts public
Surely she never was going to make those receipts public before realizing she'd be BTFO'D

>girl is stun locked company would shoot themselves in the foot.
>Says she gonna post receipts after after she speaks to her lawyer
>Lawyer probably says not to unless you plan on a making legal case against them
>Very likely decides it's not worth the hassle or waste of funds
Not really that deep

>>78085134
More or less. As you may have noticed, western defamation laws are, by design, very weak.

>>78085479
I'm aware lol. They'd have to drag her to JP to even get a chance to win. I say chance because Niji's legal team has a shit track record especially since they couldn't even get a win over dramatuber who lived in JP and had no defense. Like seeing the sisters talk up how strong Niji's legal team is is fucking hilarious

>>78075645
Did sister forgot who told the internet Selen was being harassed?

>>78055038
blame hololive

>>78085684
Sisters love in a timeline where Doki aired Niji's dirty laundry desecrated Riku's family grave site and set the last emperor on fire please understand

>>78083861
>In which they said they didn't harass Selen.
They're the ones who announced that she attempted suicide sis.
You fucking
RETARD

>>78083861
>In which they said they didn't harass Selen
they made a statement saying "SELEN TRIED TO KILL HERSELF FROM HARASSMENT AND WE DID NOT HARASS HER" which is what lead to her making the announcement of whath appened

xisters how do we erase the black stream from memory? does bleach work?

>>78076114
>unironically simping for one of the dozens of nyanners clones who flooded youtube pre-vtubers
Literally anyone with the generic cutesy nyanners voice could go viral on youtube by doing a "kawaii song parody" or doing meme voiceovers

>>78082504
Anon. Even community college here in Seafag have standards. He's just naturally retarded

>>78055038
This is just a lowkey admission that EN branch is beyond recovery. No hope. Deadend.
The next step is closing the branch and transfer the talents into the JP branch. I'll give it a year before they make the announcement on ceasing EN Branch operations.

Gotta hand it to Elira, Millie, and Enna and the entire clique. Their house of cards has finally collapsed and it was enterily their fault

>>78083296
>>78083450
AAIYEEEEEEEE SISTERS DON'T LOOK!!1!1

>>78074990
>>78078101
They haven't started the buyback program, yet.
The stocks jumped because just the mere mention of potential buyback means you would be a fool not to buy their stocks NOW.

>>78059010
Riku is so hellbent in being a success in the domestic market that he fails to realize he'll hit a plateau soon with no more room for growth. A shame.

Please understand, that Nijisanji is the one who brought up the harassment and then Elira self-reported that it was herself, Enna, and Millle who were reported as being responsible. Because she lives rent free in their heads the sisters believe that it was Doki who did it. After all, these are the same people who think Dookie, Grifter, or Drama in front of Bird is the height of creativity.

>>78055640
>after 3-5 years
there is no nijiEN anymore sister KEK, where is your nijiIN,ID and KR? see? they all gone.

>>78064733
who?

>>78065023
>holo pandering to fujochinks
wtf are you talking about sister? lmao that is the dumbest shit ive ever seen on /vt/

>>78072101
>evidence
go to official niji EN and elira ch, there you go, you will find evidence

>>78087221
At this point I'm pretty sure they're just throwing every insult they've seen said about NijiMales as a defense mechanism

>>78085872
>>78085926
They didn't say anything about a suicide. They said they don't harass people and she cried harassment so it's her claim

>>78062904
>but having watched numerous agencies
nah, stop lying sisters you never watched any streams LMAO

>>78076155
>5-6 Fi to 2-3 Fi
They measure in Finanas over on reddit too huh?

>>78055640
this is actually working with Hololive right now with the whole "return to China" thing. people are actually defending Cover's move because "what happened 4 years ago is past and we should move on"

>>78087481
These faggots are the biggest containment breakers around.

>>78084869
Is this real?

>>78082106
oh no sisters, that mean niji cant do jack shit? i thought you said there will be defamation lawsuit? so doki is fine then?

>>78055757
>just link them the asmongold video
Yeah link them Asmong-"I'm going to clean my house because I'm taking an negative hit to my intelligence"-old. Perfect. At least point them to Mutahar and Nutztaku for something a little more normie tier.

>>78084226
>Doki's never said anything about Nijisanji.

Yeah, she said the bullies were her coworkers in her legal document. It's been crystal clear who the bad guys were since Day 1. The reason she got fired instead of them is because she made herself a liability by publically saying she had enough and wasn't going to keep quiet anymore.

The clique wouldn't have been the only ones to get fired. Nijisanji management has always been very "hands-off", but that only works for the main branch because they don't have any language or cultural barriers in the way. EN management took the exact same approach to handling things as the main branch did, but they relied entirely on the one bitch in the branch who could speak Japanese to keep tabs on everything and just trusted her not to turn corrupt. If Doki publically came out with what goes on inside NijiEN, not only would it look bad for a lot of talents, but EN management as well. So EN management fired her in a vain attempt to keep this from reaching the CEO's ear. Of course, that backfired completely, but it also put Anycolor in a very bad position. Firing the guilty parties and incompetent staff would be an admission of guilt, which would leave them open to a lawsuit, which would look MUCH worse than what should have been just a passing (if particularly ugly) controversy. It's like if your kid breaks a neighbor's window, but the glass shards flew everywhere and killed a bunch of people. Assuming responsiblity might be the right thing to do, but it's not the smart thing to do. Anycolor had to choose between firing the jackasses, apologizing, and just hoping Doki didn't sue them, or siding with the jackasses and smearing Doki to protect the company as a whole. I don't like it, the whole thing could have been handled much better in private, but I understand why Anycolor did what they did.

tl;dr Fuck NijiEN. Prune the branch.

>>78085872
>BPD whore attempts suicide when she doesn't get her way.
I don't know why you all cling to this so hard. Its obvious you've never dealt with a BPD person. Just go read her twitlonger to her parents. Its a riot if you don't care about mental illnesses.

>>78088236
idk why you sister cling so hard to niji while its not just doki who speak all the niji shit.

>>78087655
Yeah, the chinks completely turned on him after he made a mother joke to Sonny.

>>78088379
It's funny how they're so bent on vilifying the one ex-Niji who has said the least negative amount of things about Niji

>>78088379
I don't. I'm just waiting for the day that that Wagyu A5 Lolcow will be on my plate.

>>78088676
Keep dreaming for your wet fanfic to become reality kekaroo

>>78088774
>Spends 10K+ on Apex Skins
>Can't afford to pay artists
I suspect we'll start seeing some cracks here soon, unless she really did get a good financial managers, in which case she might save herself.

>>78057145
No wonder bullying is mainstream in Nijisanji.
It comes all the way from the executives.

>>78088676
>t-t-two more weeks!!
KWAB

>>78088236
>muh anecdotalism

>>78088456
Like, a "yo mamma" joke?

>>78088958
Yes. If I remember right, the joke was something like "Your mother is a whore."

>>78087372
>They didn't say anything about a suicide
And more blatant lies NDF think they can get away with spewing without being called out on them

>>78088862
>Can't afford to pay artists
That's NEVER happening.
Dragoons are completely anal about respecting artists because of her.
I can't ever imagine her not paying an artist. Ever. She'd starve before she skimps out on a commission.

>>78088676
waiting? there is already a5 lolcow for the EN vtubing, nijisanji and you nijisisters, idk if you aware or not, but you are the lolcow of EN vtubing.

>>78088862
If I had a nickel for every time Sisters predicted Doki's "inevitable" menhera breakdown, I would be making more than the average Organ does today in SC.

>>78055640
The flow here is shareholders only care about destructive short term profits, they are not going to wait 3-5 years as part of some long game plan because capitalism doesn't work like that.
And it's not like Yahoo and the homos where they're protected, Niji shareholders are going to demand heads roll.

NijiEN is fucked up because they get no support whatsoever from JP headquarters. If the big names want to stay out of selfish "fuck you, got mine" mentality, so be it. I hope the ones who are literally starving will get the fuck out and move on in peace. Don't renew your contract, for the love of god.

>Selen/Doki not paying artist
Really of all the poor thought out claims THIS is the one you're clinging to?

I’m not sure I believe doki, we lack 100% proof but after the nda o guess she can be more open. No one here knows what really happened. I don’t hate doki or niji but I do hate seeing goons and niji tribalism poke fun at livers and on the side of doki you guys seem to shit on the livers and get away with it like fucking sub human animals. Doki wouldn’t want you to pick on her ex coworkers. She’s happy now, let your petty hate go.
Aside Luca who 100% deserves a fun shot to the head after his skin has been peeled off and dosed in hot sauce limes and salt.

>everyone shitting on Niji is a dragoon
Very dishonest of you. Niji is hated here by more then just her fan base and you know this for a fact.

>>78089623
Of all the things, anon went with that one.

>>78089793
Right every goon is a saint, definitely not out for blood.

>>78089910
Putting words in people's mouths now? Never claimed they were. But aside from that you do seem to ignore there are plenty of reasons Niji gets hate. Or do you not remember the conga line of BS that had nothing to do with Doki further confirming NijiEN is a terrible work environment? People use Doki because she's the biggest example of Niji's fuck ups.

>>78090089
Yes it is, but the livers are least the ones that didn’t “bully” her are not to blame, we don’t know what ones and people can only assume and decided on a dime if they just don’t like them. We don’t know, we might never know. I remember a time where Nina and pomu were also called clique dick suckers. By sisters and anons who seemed post about doki/mint

>>78055038

>>78090367
If they are still in nijisanji they are as guilty as sin

>>78087372
time to check the black stream again sister...

>>78090596
Sisters don't watch streams silly

>>78089061
IIRC he was quoting this Vine.
https://youtu.be/srENC5Ewjck?si=GZQf9QXJhXEGMD-a

>>78089067
Talking about the notice, retard. Stop changing the subject when convenient

>>78090367
all of them retweeted the black stream
>b-but muh skinwalking
cope

>>78090367
Cool. Then they can fucking graduate and then explain themselves after. Or before and get terminated. I don't give a shit which, but I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt as long as they stay part of that shitshow.
The entire fucking company needs to dissolve.

Why do people keep bringing up Selen? She hasn't streamed since fucking December. She's long been irrelevant in NijiEN's activities, and they were already hampering her influence for group events throughout 2023. Focus on selling more merch, since streaming obviously isn't bringing in as much revenue as the previous year.

>>78091891
Even sisters can no longer cope and pretend NijiEN isn't dying, so all they have left is wishing their "destroyer" somehow goes down along with them.

>>78059508
That little mass produced sculpture thing that Doki's shilling right now sold 500 units the moment it opened. She's doing fine.

>>78092618
>Nijisanji is dead!
>Uhm actually Nijisanji EN is dead!
>Um actually it isn't dead, but it's slowly dying. Give it two more years

You lost

>>78056367
Just say you don’t understand the legal system bro, 4 months is nothing for something like this

>>78090401
KEK

>>78088862
>can't afford to pay artists
And there is it. Every single time it's always the same thing that you niggers spew out. Consider doing everyone on this board a favor and kill yourself.

>>78093999
In her stream today she said it already sold over 1000 units.

>>78059508
Wait... are you talking about the week she didn't stream on youtube and instead streamed that minecraft thing on twitch?
The week that she gained over 14 thousand subscribers during despite not streaming a single time on youtube by funneling her twitch viewers from the twitch rivals into her youtube channel?

>>78094133
Sister, Anycolor literally just admitted that they aren't counting on EN's numbers improving and that their main focus this fiscal year is gonna be NijiJP.

The fucking branch is a dead man walking

>>78055038
Mint and Matara are preparing the way for Nova to be a 10k ccv streamer once she returns

i know that sisters are dumb, but to this level? holy

>>78096314
If they weren't retarded they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>78096314
They're a special kind of retarded that makes you question if they're really just trolling.

>>78095925
>they aren't counting on EN's numbers improving
Wrong. They actually only said their financial plan is entirely reliant on their main source of income. However, it appears HoloEN as become so irrelevant that they didn't even get their revenue reported on at all by Yagoo. That branch is practically already did considering how half the members are already soft graduated

>>78096314
Smart nijiniggers wouldn't have stuck with Elira after the 12th of Feb

>Anycolor in 2023
>"The japanese market is reaching maxinum saturation, but NijiEN's number clearly show that overseas expansion is they way forward"
>Anycolor in 2024
>"We are no longer planning on growing NijEN and frowm now on out focus will be on growing JP"
fucking kek

>>78096747
To be fair, they are aware that vtubers are a dead end for them, so they have changed their end goal to
>let's just replace anime and games, ok?
So EN is worthless for them. It's good to have them around to pretend that they are expanding worldwide and have some extra cash in hand, but aside from that they can safely ignore the branch from now on

Will it work? Probably not, Nijisanji is only good at selling merch

My favorite slide

>>78094133
It's dying actually, a slow bleeding to death just see the numbers every quarter they are losing money hence why mgmt has no long term plans for it, why they putting everything in main branch and doing the same protocol for the EN

If Mgmt really cared they would do drastic measures to change the fortune of EN, that unfortunately still needs to be seen now.

>>78055518
KEK

If Elira wasn't actually management, she better get ready to become management because EN is basically adrift without any support from corporate and it's up to the remaining vtubers to earn Riku Tazumi's attention by generating bundles of cash or get the fuck out.

>>78076155

>>78057181
They need to be able to dance and sing, just being bishounens in 3D aren't enough. And they have branded themselves as not being an idol agency so no one feels pressure to go out to dance/singing lessons like in hololive.

>>78096117
Yeah, of which 9.7k will be antis. How much more obvious does Mint have to make it that she wants to be as far away from Elira as possible? Hell, the only reason why she hasn't revealed her point of view on all the mistreatment and harassment going on is because she wants her quiet little pond to swim in and doing that would be akin to making a tsunami.
But it'll happen eventually. Just like her graduation, the guilt of not speaking up will whittle away at her psyche until it gives.

>>78099927
I don't know or give a shit what Mint's relationship is to Elira right now.
I'm just happy she doesn't hate my oshi because she seems nice and my oshi likes her.
Elira's a non-issue at this point, I feel. She can't hurt any of the ex-nijis at least anymore.
I don't know if we'll ever find out exactly what the fuck happened, but I hope that people can at least heal from this and that it doesn't end up haunting everybody forever.

>>78096117
Matara was literally alienated by the clique. She probably feels bad for then that they're getting such huge backlash, and they're part of the reason she got the fuck out in the first place.

Mint seems to distance herself greatly from anything nijisanji related, what she does talk about from her past life is dissapointment at things she thought she was duped on.

>>78086272
I wonder how the people remaining cope with knowing they followed her off a cliff with that black screen video. They really thought it would work in their favor.

>>78098178
>Metaverse
WTF IS THIS? ROADMAP OF AN NFT PROJECT?
AHAHAHAHHAHA

>>78100049
no healing, lmao
AS ALWAYS, TOTAL NIJIEN DEATH!

>>78101101
"metaverse" is the favorite buzzword for investors, yagoo has been using it for a couple of years too. It doesn't mean anything, but it sounds cool. That said, I can see Riku selling NFT.

>>78055151
First time?

>>78086253
The surely there would be a lot of Guras running around, no? If it's that easy?

>>78082469
Name a more iconic duo than Asians and psychiatric illiteracy

>>78098178
They already crashed and burned at the green goal though, how do they possibly expect to supplant anime and vidya went they dove headfirst into the overseas market hurdle?

>>78055038
merge to main branch

>>78102070
what, are they a git repository?

>>78055038
Merge

>>78102204
reset the branch back to before they committed ethyria

>>78055038
Merge it with Virtualreal

>>78055528
>Dokiheard
Confirmed youre larping as a doki anti

>>78099927
You underestimate how much of a coward she is. She could quietly watch another Selen moment happen and still wouldn't speak up.

>>78055640
>wait until enough time passes
They are not even patient enough to build a studio fit for their size. They already said they are focused on short-medium terms of profits.

>>78099927
This sounds like wishful thinking

>>78107303
I suppose that's possible but I don't know where you got the idea that she's that much of a coward.
>>78109654
Her actually graduating instead of just thinking about it was also believed to be wishful thinking until the situation became unbearable for her and she decided to leave.

>>78059247
Apology to the investors, not an apology to the audiences and Selen. Judging how Elira still hasn't taken the black stream down, she's not even a little bit sorry for that.

Had sympathy for Doki until i heard she recorded calls in secret. Thats top level scumbag behaviour.