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holozhang deflection thread

>>77997915

Mental illness is no joke. I hope Ewiwa feels better soon!

WAIT WHAT HAPPENED

>>77997915
the Q4 is a disaster now kurosanji forced them to work harded KEK

>>77998001
what

>>77998461
hololive is kowtowing to china again. sora was begging for yuan earlier.

>>77997915
the unofficial EN manager got news that she has 1 quarter to turn the branch numbers around or she's demoted back to regular streamer

>>77998461
Don't let the retards lie to you. They are desperately trying to deflect from the fact that billibilli sold all their stock in anycolor hence all the holozhang posting. Ironic considering the reason they are so mad in the first place.

>>77998835
what

>>77997915
She heard about the merge

>>77997915
HAHAHAHA get fucked clique whore

>>77997915
Did she asked mane chan again? D:

>>77997915
So, as it turns out, speaking Japanese wasn't enough for her to survive the upcoming merge, she's getting shitcanned... KEK WHAT A KWAB, GET FUCKED CUNT!

>>77997915
All i can muster up is a less than half hearted damn thats rough guy sorry not sorry

>>77998461

>NijiEN was their gateway to vtubing but that failed
>Niji is also a failed them
>VirtuaReal has a high graduation/hiatus rate and lost a lot of big vtubers
>VirtuaReal Stars (their celebrity program) lost 2 of the big members probably from not renewing contracts
>those members propped up VR with with 3M+ subs each while they were there
>other vtuber stuff on Bilibili are even smaller

>>77997915
I'm going to browse /x/ so I can send ultra schizo bad vibes her way through esoteric dreams until she kills her.

GOOD! She can go Hi-Fi Rush off a skyscraper in real life. Cunt-Ass Bitch.

>>77998214
They've got every debuff in the game. Release another 3 gens!

>>77999144
she uploaded a video to a chinese website begging them to buy merch

>>77999144
Sora is sucking chink cock

>>77997915
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D:
that's so weird, I think any one who uploads black streams have never encountered anything like this before did you received a confirmation/OK sign to manesan before being a piece of shit and killing your whole branch reputation?

>>77997915
>makes fun of selen's mental
>pitybaits by talking about her own mental health
what is unironically wrong with this bitch?

>>78000017
kek

>>77998953
5 consecutive quarters of decreasing revenue is probably giving her higher-ups gray hair. Especially since the only reason EN managed to (just barely) pass one billion yen in gross revenue was because of the AR Live, and they're not able to do another one of those between now and the end of July.

Also that was gross revenue, not net revenue; and Anycolor just spent four times EN's Q4 gross revenue on stock buybacks.

>>78000435
I still don't understand why they would do it so soon after how badly the last one went. The only thing I can see happening is:
>number go up because less available stock
>Riku tries to sell stock
>legally, he has to announce he's dumping his pumped stock because why the fuck else would he pump the stock
>SELL SELL SELL SELL
>price tanks, buyback was negligible

>>78000108
You mean besides willingly living in Canada?

>>78001055
Isn't she living in Japan now?

>>78000017
legit the funniest running meme on vt

>>78000017
KEK

>>77997915
That's how Selen felt after you bullied her for months.

>>77997915
Chink please, you're not going to ever convince anyone this is way worse than Cover kowtowing to the fucking Chinks AGAIN
>>77998001
fpbp. Holofags will never live this down.

>>77997915
Yeah nijien didn't do as well as expected

>>77998214
Except it wasn't because Bilibli pulled out and Riku bought back all of the stocks, enabling a more freer and looser environment in the process?
>>77999362
First off there won't be a merge and second off it means nothing if they do merge because the same environment they have now won't be going away.

>>78001558
Selen and Elira forgave each other retard

>>78000017
KEK

>>78002111
lol

>>78002215
Well I don't

>>78000770
The last one went so badly because it was followed immediately by the Selen fiasco. I don’t think there’s anyone left who can do that much damage by leaving. Also, they said that they’re focusing on the domestic market this year, so the health of the EN branch is no longer as vital.

>>78002215
>elira forgave selen
what?

>>78000000
>>77999999

>>77997915
>Afraid she'll become a nobody if the branch gets folded then she'd have no more power over nijien
Kek No one will suck up to her anymore of she's no longer a manager of the dying EN branch

>>78002387
keep up

>>77997915
>bully someone else to suicide
>double down on it with the black stream
>triple down by not apologizing
>sisters claimed the suicide was faked all along
I'd say it's morally correct for me to say this:

Kill yourself, Elira Pendora.

>>78002215
Source now woman.

>>78000017
gets me every time

>>78000017
This one is good

>>77997915
I don't understand, I thought mental health wasn't an issue to nijis?

>>77999083
You got a source for that?

>>78004723
In my opinion I do not believe this is a form of mental health issue

>>78002111
The only thing free and loose here is your mom's pussy

Holy shit why the fuck do they still have the black screen vid up?
I expected them to take it down and claim the inevitable reuploads. A retarded move, but I didn't expect them to just keep it up with comments on.

>>78007863
Humiliation ritual.

more like Smelira Pendorass

It's just more pity baiting. No sympathy. AWOOOO

>>78005280
Yes actually:
https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ANYCOLOR-INC-137315116/company/
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117133334/https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ANYCOLOR-INC-137315116/company/

>>77997915
https://www.youtube.com/live/o65VwnQvWW4
I belive this was a mandated video that's coordinated with Riku's apology message on the main channel. If the EN members had any meaningful say, there's no fucking way the majority of them would have agreed to the contents of this video, much less keep it up after the unanimous backlash.

>>78008782
Why tf does b2 have an american flag?

>>78008928
Was sold to American investors in 2022

>>77999194
Didn't need a rrat to figure that out after seeing that page of the report

>>78008782
There is one more possible point of data, post No.71110208 has an image from march 11, where bili bili had already sold it as well.
>>/vt/thread/71106428#p71110208

>>78000017
I keep thinking this will get old but it never does

>>78008782
>685M¥ to 369M¥

Oof, that must had hurt riku pretty bad. Absolutely not negligible at all

>>77997915
YOU COULD JUST FUCKING ASK TO FEEL BETTER

>>78003635
with the niji lies?

>>78008782
kek even Riku himself is selling his stocks

>>78009351
You can type it like this >>71110208 to make it easier for us.

>>78011672
KEK

>>78002296
Eh, there's literally nothing Niji can do to stop them from renewing their contract. Livers dropping like flies is still going to hurt it.

>>78007863
Because taking it down would be an admittance of guilt. According to Niji and the Clique, they're the ones in the right, so they can't admit they're wrong. To themselves or to the En sphere
If they were going to, they would have done it ages ago, right when it was clear the stream had the opposite affect they intended. Doing it months after the fact only makes their guilt worse

>>78008835
You seriously underestimate how stupid people can be, especially when their pride and reputations are on the line.
And if the words of past livers are any indication, the cult like mentality is strong in there, so I'd be willing to bet at least a decent chunk of them signed off on it cuz to them they are right and Selen is the bad guy, and the rest probably followed suit out of fear of retribution

>>78000017
kek

>>78002111
Riku having to repurchase stock again. Free with their business plan? Guess who is getting blamed because they all have to work again.
>>77998011
She isn't going to get better till she leaves Niji idiot.

that Bilibili logo Mysta built in Minecraft is going to look so awkward now.

they can burn it now

>>77997915
I guess NijiEN didn't do as well as expected.

>>78016702
>She isn't going to get better till she leaves Niji idiot.
What do you mean? Niji just implemented new policies to protect the mental well being of staff members. Everyone loves it and is happier for it! Don't you love Nijisanji too?

>>78016702
It'll follow anywhere. It's her largest stream by popularity too so anyone hearing about her PL would see it first. You don't have to know anything about Niji to recognize the catty highschool hit job

>>78000017
LMAO

>>77998001

>>78017617
Millie no one gives a fuck about this job right now. Maybe later.

>>78017617
4 months late

>>77998001
>>78019085
>>78002031
>>78002270

>>78002111
>if they do merge because the same environment they have now won't be going away
Uuhhhh you do know this sounds really bad right? Merger means Anycolor no longer provides separate support for EN specifically, and now they have to join the JP queue for everything. If you say nothing will change that means their management is already fucked even now.

>>78000017
KEK. Classic.

>>78002215
>source: my ass

>>78017617
>protect mental health of staff members
Yes, they will protect the precious feelings of the higher-ups so they don't cry when the livers talk back to them. Livers can get the stealth suspens- I mean, mental health breaks.

>>78000017

>>78008076
You say this as a joke, but it's the most rational explanation. We know that Niji is a black company that uses public humiliation among coworkers as a means of ensuring "loyalty". I can see forcing Elira to keep it up with comments visible as a means of punishment for her failures.
It's kind of disgusting to think about.

>>77998001
FPBP. You can't make this shit up kek

>>78024046
wouldn't be the first time.
This isn't even the tip of the iceberg with how many apologies Selen had to make for them.

>>78024110
I love how she kept trying to bridge to jp to prop up EN but Managment kept having a shitfit. Now she's wholly vindicated as EN has collapsed.

>be elira
>nothing is ever your fault
>gain any sort of power
>fuck everyone else over
>fuck everything up
>nothing is your fault, people are being mean!

>>78024447
They're all just spiteful because Elira was shooting blanks.

>>77998001
kek

>>78000017

>>77997915
nice try but you can’t deflect the fact hololive is now sucking Chinese cock

>>78024110
Goddamn, actually enough examples to fill out the meme.

>>78000017

>>78000017
This is the best thing that've come out of nijisanji

>>77997915
KWAB

>>78027662
For me *sigh* is up there

>>77998001
fpbp

>>77997915
Lose some weight. You'll feel better.

>>78025021
It's not even close to all of them, too. God I wish there was a way to see archived community posts. The RE4 shit alone could've filled up that meme.

>>77997915
>Boohoo my mental health

Damn, imagine how Doki felt when Elira made that shit stream at her return stream.

>>78028476
She knows how to mating press but she can't take a nakadashi. Many sad cases

>>78028316
Honestly this while fiasco has been great for copypastas, I'm personally fond of the "top mogger" one just for the sheer nonsense of it.

>>78027662
Personally I think Doki was the best thing to come out of nijisanji.

>>78028726
That's a weird way to spell Michi

>>78028706
>top mogger
I don't think i've seen that one...?

>>78028726
>>78028789
AHEM.

>>78028789
They're both cute.

>>78028814

>>78028879
I love the top Buster as much as anyone else but he slung best first.

>>78017617
And I'm the fucking loch ness monster. Now gimme 3.50. because I said so!

>>78028814
I don't have the image but I think it was a tweet from a sister boiling down to being mad that Mint chose Doki's side and ending with "you are no longer the top mogger."

>>78029008
Riku stream announced the wellness program. I forgot where we were told about the whistleblower program lmao.

>>78028367
That's a terrible swing.bwho swings that high

>>78029059
Fuck I don't think I'd believe anything that comes out of his rotten mouth

>>78029055 (me)
Never mind someone's already posted it and it was Vivi and the NBA collab not Mint.

>>77997915
>She publicly slander Doki with blackscreen
Now she has to make a public apology to Doki, or else nobody gonna feel even an ounce of sympathy for her.

>>78029059
whistleblower program was leaked in the C&D niji sent to Raz. They said it was specifically established on like april 12th

>>78028984
>>78029055
Oh, it's that one? I could never bring myself to read that one completely without getting enraged

>>78029063
She has brain death after a tragic dunk contest accident in her junior year balling.

>>77997915
>虹山寺的报道发表后,请大家多多支持!

speak english

>>78029166
Thanks.

>>78028984
>"ily but i hate you"
WTF did i just read

>>78029264
>ily is terminal retard for I Love Yakitori (Holotori)
>ily but hate you for this
>for this
>for this
>for this
>for this
>Quoted his grievance
>Explains his painal about needlessly bad optics

>>77999658
KEK

>twitter screencap thread
kys

>>78029059
>Riku stream announced the wellness program
Oh yeah it clearly works well /s

>>78031683
Seethe Elirafag

>>78032261
Man I really feel bad for Vivi and Twisty. The rumor that it's 2yr initial contracts too...

>>78032422
Dont care about grifty, its he own fault for jumping into sinking yatch post selen shock
Rosemi, maria, vivi, kunai were innocent tho

>>78034132
>Rosemi, maria, vivi, kunai were innocent tho
It never fails to make me laugh how anons decides who the "innocent" ones are based purely on personal preferences.

>>78034578
Mata still likes the Wose, this is enough evidence for me.

>>78034578
>based purely on personal preferences
Nah I dont even watch those 4, it was based on observation
Im dragoon btw

>>78034578
Yeah, no one is innocent until they seek redemption through vtuber Jesus

>>78034578
Okay anon, tell us. What are Vivi and Kunai guilty of and show us proof.

>>78034768
This but unironically.

>>78000017
Finana and Millie will be immortal. Everyone will forget Elira and Enna if they stopped streaming for half a year at this rate.

>>78034578
Maria's popped off on those being an asshole to her she can be a real spitfire. You wouldn't know if you didn't catch the streams. Besides that she's fairly isolated in strayaville & the company in general just actual starving to fund her projects

>>78034768
>Redemption can be yours but you have to survive 13 rounds with Marine's cock in a single night.

>>78034835
Wasn't this fake?

>>78034864
The problem is that too many of them basically killed their ability to leave Niji and still have an audience.

>>78034900
Nope. We got an accessory post by Mr. Man months later strongly corroborating that they're real.

>>78034900
Not really, it was pretty much proved true by some Mr. Man tweets

>>78034864
>Everyone will forget Elira and Enna if they stopped streaming for half a year at this rate
i doubt anyone will forget mrs black screen any time soon

>>77997915
>imma be real guys, my mental health is kinda ultra low since sayu has been talking to mata

>>78034900
People were in denial when it was posted shortly after the MV debacle, but after Doki's redebut her manager posted a screen of a convo between the two of them and she had the exact same pfp decoration. A forger coudn't have realistically known that back in December.

>>78034997
Do you think they DM the sex tapes to her?

>>78034835
>NijiEN members have asked for my graduation and some wish for me to leave the company.

Is it weird that one can make good guesses who those people are?

>>78034938
>>78034944
>>78035031
This is a pretty big deal then, how come this didn't blow up as much?. This tells much more than all the rrats combined.

>>78035277
Cause Selen wants to move on, Anycolor is continually finding new places to shoot itself, sisters want to be mentally ill, and many of the retards shitflinging never even watched Selen before or after? The bottom line is people can't do shit and Selen's moved on.

>>78034997
>Sayu out of nowhere
Sister?

>>78035420
I mean why did this not blow up here. Its not like the rest of niji bait threads on catalog were any better.

>>78035505
I think it was discovered hours before the black stream and got overshadowed.

>>78035505
It did. I'm not kidding when I say that without Selen giving a shit it doesn't matter. It fades away just leaving the know-nothing catalog tourists on both sides throwing shit at each other.

>>78035277
It kinda did back in February-March, but among all the shit flying not everyone has seen it.
Aso I suspect that the whole
>If I stay, I'll be resented by majority of the people in the branch
is kinda problematic for people desperately wanting to exonerate their precious livers on principle so it got swiped under the rug in the long run.

maybe after a Selen experience (failed sudoko attempt), she understands and properly apologizes for her shit/fless NijiKuro

>>77997915
>fucks up big time on her own
>oh no my mental health

>>78035649
ayy lmao. You don't get to shoot someone then go Sasuke.jpg "Yeah... sorry"

>>78035642
Can't be all of then since doki talked about innocents. I'm guessing there were those who talked to shit to her(elira, millie, enna) and told her leave the branch, those who didn't say anything but didn't support her either (petra, rosemi) and those who weren't there (ren, scarle, pomu).
There were probably also those who pretended to be her friend just to gaslight her( vox, ike)

>>78035093
To be fair, Vox self reported.

>>78035937
To my final days I will insist that Vox was an Agent of Tanigo. With his cartoon supervillain autofellatio serving as a foil to Elira's soap opera cocksleeve and Ike's femboy cockslut performance the stream was undeniable.

>>78035937
Something that people often overlook.
Elira: We absolutely do not condone harassment!
Vox: In my opinion, it was not a form of harassment!

>>78036092
They totally were trying to get ahead of Selen because they thought she was going to leak the DMs

>>78036092
"You're good-for-nothing piece of shit that should resign. It's not harassment, I'm just speaking my mind"

>>78036260
With how much it was mentioned that the company was highschool cafeteria central I want the messages so fucking bad. I want to see them all being fucking retards over nothingburgers

>>78035505
Sisters were screaming up and down that it was fake (like they did with every screenshot leak) and that was somehow enough for people to memoryhole it until was confirmed to be real by screenshots posted by Doki's manager showing her Discord ID marker is the same as the leaks.

>>78036260
It was more likely very passive aggressive by millie and enna than something direct with Elira trying to sound neutral saying " I hate to say this, but they are right"
Then vox and ike say "we are your friends but you fucked up and should really apologize to the management". Pure gaslighting. Others stayed quiet and let it happen

>>78035277
It wasn't the only one, too. There was a second one that was leaked with it.

>>78036514
Doesn't align with "members have asked for my graduation" and
"some wish for me too leave the company as I bring nothing good to the branch", unfortunately. I don't think the MV was a singular episode, only the last straw.

>>78035277
It wasn't the only one, too. There was a second one that was leaked with it.

>>78007863
>I think it is necessary to reduce the risk not only by the training system, but also by firmly releasing and responding appropriately as a company when it actually happens.
That was their answer when asked about talents leaving.
In other words the reason the black screen stream remains up is because management themselves ordered it to be made, they will order more of them made for anyone who dares to get terminated. It is literally their strategy when dealing with fired employees.

>>78035889
>Can't be all of then
Of course not, but
>majority of the people in the branch
means quite clearly that it was not an isolated issue between three or four people but a widespread sentiment, and no talent is really above suspicion as of now.
Unless of course you really want some of them to be based on your personal preferences, but then we're back at the beginning of the whole argument.

>>78035093
In Elira's statement she mentioned her, Enna, and Millie's names being in the document and I'm pretty sure Doki's friend, Gumi(?), said that she basically mentioned the culprits herself.

>>78036890
>No talent is above suspicion as of now.
Exactly, that's why the litmus test for being an accomplice on that matter is whether or not they leave the company and try to reconcile with Doki.

>>78036707
It was probably Vox or someone else going quit if it's so bad just stop venting to me. That all sides were essentially playing a game of duolingo telephone wasn't helping since they weren't mature enough to step back on things they weren't present for.

>>78034835
Turns out she was the only good thing in the branch and now the ship is sinking
oooooh feels good

>>78036749
>Some livers didn't want to appear

It was Millie, right?

>>77997915
probably due to this

>>78037361
It tracks with how much of a bitch she was with the twitter reply for no reason.

>>78037011
You are correct. Gumi (Doki's friend) made a tweet after the black screen video calling out how fucked up it was for them to do that and made a follow-up one saying "didn't they basically self report?" since Doki never said anything

>>77997915
I believe mental health is real, but why is it every time one of my friends takes a 'mental health day' it either coincides with the release date of a new video game or they sit at home vegging out?

>>78038652
Because they don't have a real mental health crisis and are just abusing it.
That said it is real and frailer people do benefit greatly even if they need to just try psychologists until they get one that doesn't suck and cut shitty people out of their lives.

>>78038652
>>78038735
Anyway for a streamer they have to deal with psycho fans, trying to build their channel, problems building the channel, trying to chase the algo meta, imposter syndrome, full blown insanity from trying their best for little to no growth if not actively regressing while some slop channel greatly outperforms them.
It doesn't help that Elira's greatly reviled, got a 2 month vacation which annihilated her algo presence, she's been stuck in damage control mode, and she has to deal with woman hormones and periods on top of it.

>>78036048
Vox Akuma the Itachi of Vtubing...

>>78034706
It's hilarious how fast you faggots changed your opinion on the roach.

>>78011196
How many yachts worth of a loss is this?

tell Elira to kill herself, Finana.
She deserves all the hate and harassment she gets unless proven otherwise.

>>78039152
Nah, not really. Wose is the last semi-popular non-radioactive potentially marketable current niji. So of course Mata would "like" her. It can even be mutual, heh.

>>78039152
What opinion did those faggots have on the roach huh? Where's your presentation?

>>78039265
Elira deserves a short-form romcom podcast with Finana

>>77997915
do a flip, bitch.

>>78039383
Mata likes her, but what's got more weight imo is that Selen and Pomu liked her. They weren't the woogirls for nothing.

Real talk, whoever didn't watch Selen's birthday concert with Zeta, Rosemi, Mooms, and the rest don't get an opinion.

>>78039798
Selen also liked Vox and Ike, and we know how it ended.
I'm not saying that there's definitely bad blood between then now, but past interpersonal relationship can't really be used to judge current ones in this case.

>>78039952
Ike's betrayal cut so deep. He's old enough for it to not be his first time at the she said JOP said rodeo too so I don't know what the actual fuck was his malfunction to backstab her like that.

>>78001977
>nijien became chinese white monkeys long ago
>HoloEN has nothing to do with BiliBili
>sisters keep parroting holozhang like any indog is gonna read it
The absolute state

>>78039952
>>78040024
Sometimes I imagine Doki reading our schizo shit and laughing at us trying to deduce her relationship to people. Maybe they're still friends and they're not saying anything because of the black corpo.

She was probably told that if the sales were below a certain threshold she'd have resign as manager and be sold as a sex pet for the execs to relieve themselves with.
Possibly shoot some JAVs to make up for some of the losses.

>>78040340
Maybe, but I have a really, really hard time beleving she's still friend with the people that asked for her graduation or those who appeared in the black screen.

>>77997915
I dropped NijiEN as a whole soon after Luxiem's debut so i kinda find this hate Elira gets a bit too much. Even when it was the girls alone they were quite open about both managment and other talents dropping responsabilities and pseudo managment work on her. Couldnt the black stream on her channel had been something mandated by someone above?

>>78039152
>>78039798
Mata likes her because they stayed in touch after nijien. She never implied that she has issues with any others. Just saying.

>>78028476
Don't need to when we have a live reaction of her having a mental break on stream. And I mean that literally, not in the menhera episode sense a dramafag would be looking forward to. She got stunlocked into a speech loop that continued for 10 minutes or so until she finally realised she was stunlocked, apologised, then ended stream. It's genuinely hard to watch.

>>78040481
She was already a meat toilet on the yacht for TWO MONTHS. Have mercy!

>>78040340
Now now let's not get ahead of ourselves. This is just nonsense. I doubt they have made any kind of communication post black screen.

>>78040481
imagine been elira and own 50mil dollars to riku

>>78028476
>Imagine
We were there watching it. Lawyer had to yank her before she said anything more retarded than she already had.

>>78040619
>I doubt they have made any kind of communication post black screen.
That's a fact, she basically confirmed that when she was talking about reconnecting with Mint.

>>78028476
She just wanted to play neopets and be happy...

>>78039392
Nta but you're really forgetting how much Mata was shitted on here outside of /vsj+/ because of all the rrats about how Mata was still friends with the clique, how she was trying import the Niji clique into vshojo and do some takeover with her as the clique leader, or how she secretely hated Doki and was blackballing Sayu. They only changed opinion on her when she slayed every single one of those rrats

>>78040702
Even her discord account had been set to "invisible" for months before the last week, where she had change it to join the minecraft drama server.

>>78040719
That was just pure rrats. We already knew she was a weak-willed w*m*n that prioritized fitting in, had a trauma filled past, and untreated ptsd that prevented her from not being an asspain.
Pomers was fact overwriting speculation.
Nina's beef with sayu was correct and justified. You never ever use your friend/coworker/spouse/etc. in a but SHE gets to do it reeeeee! "argument".

>>78038652
Explain to me a better way to de-stress. "Taking care of your mental health" can be as simple as "do things you enjoy"

>>78040898
Beef is not word I would use when describing sayu mata situation since they never directly shat on each other. Sayu did something indefensible in mata's eyes and she cut her off.

Unfortunately this started rumours that mata is blocking sayu from bigger opportunities. They have reconnected now so it doesn't really matter.

>>77998001
Fpbp. They’re literally grasping at straws kek

>>78039392
>romcom podcast with Finana
They sorta tried that, and anons that watched it said they have no chemistry. Clips I've seen of the anniversary were cringeworthy. Pomu was the only thing keeping Lazulight afloat.

>>78041132
Sayu agreed she fucked up
It's not so much Nina blocking sayu so much as Sayu justifiably being an unrepentant hazard. You can't blame someone for not wanting a lion in their circus

>>78041238
God wont even throw us a bone

>>78041238
Can you share the clips of it?

>>78041293
Fear not God's judgement, the fact that he's simply humiliating them instead of destroying them outright means that this is good for them.
Elira and the fish will be given a second chance, once they get their karma and grow into better people. They can still fuck it up.

>>78041365
>NijisanjiEN
>clippers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqtyvB-MjfM
This is the only one I can find, but I remember watching a different one that showed up on my feed that didn't edit out as much of the cringe. I used to watch this clipper since he's one of the better ones. However, it's pretty telling that out of both Finana and Elira's streams, he only made 3 clips.

I hope she pulls a Doki and actually succeeds

>>78040562
Good. Serves her right then.

>>78041238
Did they even acknowledge Pomu's existence at all during that anniversary "celebration." It would be quite bizarre of them to since she wasn't even terminated.

>>78041912
Thanks

>>78042120 (Me)
bizarre of them not to*

>>78041973
Literally how? Gacha and long jrpgs is a debuff. She's got a permanent black eye from the black stream and she'll never be able to get away from the bad rep from it. she wasn't a big organizer like Selen was. It's joever man.
At least if she saved enough of her earnings to buy a shop and open a host club she could have retired to sleep on bishie chests and blow digits on gacha but she wouldn't have done all that retarded shit if she was smart enough to.

>>78000017
KEK this always gets me

>>78029264
Lyrics to a Tyler the Creator song? Nevermind, it's the other way around.

>>78042322
Anon, he's saying she should kill herself.
That being said...
>It's joever man.
I think she can still turn it around and she is good at networking, so she can build herself an indie circle. If she tries to spin a redemption story for herself I think enough people would give her a chance and the black screen will be more of a prequel.
But she won't be getting 5k CCV.

>>78042322
I think you either replied to wrong post or you misunderstood what the anon was trying to say.

>>78042660
I was thinking of the go indie with the implication that she would actually succeed instead of fail like everyone believes. That uh, makes a lot more sense.

Selen and Elira
the Suicide Sisters

>>78035687
I wonder if she actually doesn't realize what's been going on in the scene. Like she made the black video, had a mental breakdown and this whole time she's been living like it's never happened and all these mental health problems are like some deep rooted trauma coming to the surface. And there's gonna be a big revelation where she remembers what a cunt she's been.

>>78042916
And the elira saviourfags finally arrived. Did you not see the screenshot about what selen said in her art discord? Elira and co told her to fuck off from the branch. On top of the black stream.

>>78042624
Her rep in the EN vtubing market, I don't think any EN chuubas would be willing to even give her a chance.
The only way she can make it is if she throws Nijisanji under the bus and reveals all the dirt she has on them, or if Doki publicly exonerates her.

>>78002215
That's a bold statement senator, why don't you back that up with a source?

>>77997915
Another Holo-China deflection thread.

>>78042624
Yeah, Elira does have a method of getting a huge dramafag pull to at least get some exposure when redebuting. She's totally fucked if she's done anything she can't smooth over before the debut with private apologies though.
A believable sob story redemption arc would be such a fucking landmark event for dramaniggers. But it'd backfire her into the abyss if anyone in the know calls her out on it.
It doesn't matter if Doki or whoever never forgives her; so long as the narrative that she was psychologically trapped and felt she didn't have a choice remains unchallenged by anyone that matters.
Then all she needs is literally anything worthwhile in terms of content to convert dramafag/saviorfag tourists into regular viewers.

>>78043529
>any nijiyab thread is labeled holo deflection
>any holoyab thread is labeled niji deflection
evil phasekek masterminds are absolutely genius

>>77997915
Its over, isnt it?

>>78043674
>revive
It's dead, Jim.

>>78035277
Because when Nijisanji EN had a solid reputation this was treated as fake when it was the real thing. There's a reason why schizos escalated the pressure since NDF always existed but wasn't given a name. They just became obvious the more unhinged EN events continuously occured.

>>78037268
It would definitely fit if Vox was the one to say it. The guy thinks himself as a leader.

>>77997915
B-b-but sisters told me organs dont care about subs!!

>>78043598
The only thing going for her, if we can call it that is that other than the black screen stream her image is clean. Vox cannot blame management for it if he got canned tomorrow. Millie had her tweets that became a meme.

>>78043598
That requires throwing a Niji manager under the bus. Never going to happen.

>>78041513
NTA, but I seriously have my doubts.
I don't think Elira is mentally strong enough to bear that permanent mark on her until she gets better, she's more likely to just give and disappear forever as it's the easier option
Feesh isn't intelligent enough to self-reflect and will either say it was all the corpos fault and she did nothing wrong or that she was doing the best with what she had, neither of which addresses what is objectively self inflicted damage

>>78045098
Vanishing might be the best idea for Elira at this point in time, I mean she's STILL hemorrhaging subscribers. Nixon managed to eventually return to the realm of politics, albeit in a FAR more limited capacity that still had future presidents going to him for advice and even speaking fondly of him during and after his funeral, after Watergate so it's possible she might be able to manage something similar... but I'd say it's VERY doubtful unless Elira can prove her innocence to some degree.

>>78011933
He barely sells anything anon, it's the value that dropped... That 600M¥ to 300M¥ is kinda insane to see.

>>77998001
>holozhang
fpbp. Newfags haven't experienced the Holo vs China standoff.

It's still baffling that people would anti-Elira of all people.

>>78046298
Yeah, I can't really understand how anyone would take issue with someone hosting and participating in the black stream. Truly a mistery.

>>78046298
Yeah, completely baffling that people would dislike someone releasing a hit piece on a former colleague who just left your company because of a suicide attempt, timed specifically to coinciding with her stream.

>>78046298

>>78045568
For her sake, she better have solid indisputable receipts and a reliable network outside of Niji, otherwise she is undeniably fucked since she has no PL to return to.

>>78046520
>>78046524
lmao. So you anti a random chuuba who you've never watched based on a single thing?
I get Yuko or, hell, even Finana, but Elira's record has been nigh impeccable save for the black stream, which was forced by management.

>>78046774
>why do people hate Elira?
>rational explanations given
>lmao that was just like one thing guys
Poor bait.

>>78046774
>was forced
Doesn't work like that, bud. Maybe in your country you can force a woman to do anything, but she's a Canadian citizen.

>>78046774
OJ's record was nigh impeccable before killing his ex-wife (allegedly), how could anyone be angry with him?

>78046774
Look I know you're fishing for (You)'s but when the one bad think is universally agrees to be unforgivable that's more then enough

>>78040527
>>78025307

>>77997915
>Hi-Fi Rush
>The game Selen had some of the most fun with
>Everyone knows it's Selen's game in Niji
Hmm I wonder why she switched it. Btw it's just pity baiting, she always does this.

>>78048411
I just realized Selen was terminated almost the same day as when she finished Hi-fi a year ago

>>78043674
damn... why not just tell them "You're fired" already?

>>78048643
Yep, so it's pretty apparent aside to famliras.

>>77997915
I hope she gets kidney stones

>>78046298
I generally brushed off her brief moments of bitchiness, considering her to be too good to be such a close friend of Millie and Enna. I knew she and Selen had little in common in terms of friend groups and gaming preferences, but I always looked out for any crumbs of cute lore interactions.

I don't personally hate her, but I just can't watch her anymore after all the bullshit that's happened. Pomu, Elira, and Selen were my favorites. I'll check her out again when she leaves Anycolor and debuts as someone else.

>>78043401
Not savior fagging. Just wondering if anyone could be that delusional.

>>78048820
that would make the widdle investows cwy

>>78046774
>So you anti a random chuuba who you've never watched based on a single thing?
NTA but no, I anti my former oshi who turned out to be a devil in disguise. The only cope I was able to give myself was that either Selen was somehow in the wrong (which even I knew at the time would've been a massive stretch and quickly started and then stopped believing throughout the course of the stream) or she'd eventually apologize or tease something, anything, that it was just a corporate mandate. But we've seen absolutely nothing. I've never once believed in the GURRAT but I don't need to believe in it to know what she did was genuinely inhumane. She's talked extensively about bullying before between her own experiences and her families, but I never once thought her personal experiences were speaking from the wrong side of it.

>>78046774
Naw, I dropped her at the harassing Uber driver story when she went in person to a con to do meet and greets. Slowly over here streams (drunk and sober) the nice girl next door mask slips every now and then. She's a bully whether she thinks it or not.

>>77998001
meds

>>77998001
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>>77998001
fbppbp

The person to comment after me is extra gay

>>77998203
kys

>>78052279
Qrd?

KWAB

>>77997915
She's sad because nijien will get a rebuild and she won't be in a position of power anymore.

Enna gives off huge cunt energy

>>78045098
>Feesh isn't intelligent enough to self-reflect and will either say it was all the corpos fault and she did nothing wrong or that she was doing the best with what she had, neither of which addresses what is objectively self inflicted damage
Man I hope Finana sticks around for a long time after EN completely closes. I love how genuinely retarded and oblivious she is, she's like the village idiot of the entire industry. It makes me laugh.

>>78039152
When did I change my opinion of the roach? I was a honey from day 1.

>>78034706
Didn't she use to tweet out to Millie and friends? I think she's keeping her other friendships on the downlow.

>>77999791
You're retarded.

>>78062918
She recently had a twitter exchange with Reimu.
But with that and Kiara it only proves Ethyria are good.

>>78060429
given she's been /here/ a number of times trying to suck herself off, i can't imagine she goes anywhere but the indie sphere after Niji closes it's doors.

>>77998835
Try again retard, you think any westerner knows the currency of bugmen? And "kowtowing"? What's next, the 'auspicious' and 'benevolent' quarterly earnings report?
Kindly go neck yourself, Zhang.

>>78058062
just search up elira uber in an archive
even pomu thought it was weird

>>78060429
imagine the full power discord grooming when she leaves

>>78041238
The drunk stream was their best collaboration and that turned into a group stream with Pomu.

>>78042120
I fucking hope not. Those cunts don't get to speak her name.

>>78063489
Fuck off KFPiss. It only proves that Kiara is much worse than anyone thought.

>>77998001
>Cover gets to do business in a country that will make them rich
>"Th-this is actually a bad thing you know?"

>>78065569
Tell that to Haachama.

>>78065649
>Blows over in a few weeks at max
>Cover still makes money

>>78000017
One day this will get old.
Today is not that day.

>>78065754
>money is more important than the mental wellbeing of the talents
Kill yourself.

>>77997915
Shes just sad about seeing Cover bend the knee to China again

>>77997915
Lol get fucked

>>78043674
I mean realistically when you've already tried your best for 2-3 years you have to face that it's already given all it has and pack ENiggers up.
And Niji''s spending $48 million on stock buybacks instead of a music team for Finana and Maria. Instead of helping Rosemi build her brand.

I just don't know how the dickfuck they're going to climb out of the hole.

>>77998001
You constantly replying to yourself won't make it sound more convincing

Kobo is and has always been an opportunist. There's a reason Cover didn't bother to help her with her self promotion.

If anything, I'm hoping it triggers another shit storm so that Kobo will get canned. That screamy little shit has always rubbed me the wrong way

>>78000017
This meme is never going to die isn't it?

>>78063819
It's suddenly becoming a lot more clear why certain people bash Anycolor but pretend NijiEN are innocent victims who did nothing wrong.

>>78058062
She basically took a trip with dumb and Dumber I believe to go to a convention where niji was holding panels. And when she was out on the town she might have been drunk and whenever she passed by a hooters she would keep asking the driver if they liked boobs or something to that affect and made the drivers uncomfortable.

>>78064758
>Pandora's box
>Last video 4 months ago
So there are Clippers with dignity.

>>78071020
Kobo's eventual maturation into a slick business woman from being raised by 87 aunties is the best part of the ride.

>>78071027
It's too perfect to ever die. It's Niji's Coco's butt plug.

>>78034835
I still don't get why they wanted her to leave

>>78072557
Cause she crumbles in a light breeze so her existence reminds them that they're awful bullies for no reason and they dislike that.

>>78072557
Selen kept making them do work when they just want to coast by doing nothing.

>>78008782
Thanks for the clarification

>>78036749
Reeks of foul play here. Didn't want Selen because she was making them "do work" even though projects like this helps boost the livers/company. Its like many of them either want to bully or coast along.

>>78045098
>Feesh isn't intelligent enough to self-reflect and will either say it was all the corpos fault and she did nothing wrong or that she was doing the best with what she had, neither of which addresses what is objectively self inflicted damage
NIJI GASLIT ME

>>78071988
Unfortunately, no. His twitter's still active and he still likes Elira, but due to I think uni he stopped clippingn in January, long before the selen thing.