/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7778251
Welcome back Marine schizo i was starting to miss you

>>7778251
nice thumbnail antchama

>>7778251
Sparks still exist anon. This is the runner up though

>>7778275
I was about to fall for schizo b8 until I saw this post.
Unison's song was... unexpected. the MV was trippy, I can dig that

>>7778251
it is an odd choice for someone who can sing so good

>>7778251
I agree that music wise it wasnt good, but the video was hella pretty

>>7778402
No doubt the animation was really well done, but wow was the song itself shit.

>>7778251
I love it actually.

>>7778251
It’s trash but be ready to get called a schizo as ichimi find excuses to cope with their whore being rightfully hated

>>7778251
its pretty bad, and seems like a low effort song. im going to be bummed out when this replaces Ahoy in her karaoke streams.

the start reminded me of https://youtube.com/watch?v=3kXx6f7qaa8
the rest disappointed

Since I do like weird experimental music, this sure fits for me. But sure music normies won't like it.

>>7778251
Probably the worst holoJP original song

>>7778251
>>7778686
>WTF THIS MUSIC ISNT GENERIC IDOLTRASH
>HECKIN NOOOOOOO!!!!
I bet you are the type of person that hates drinking water

I'm glad some of you don't like it, can't relate to your faggotry. This is the best song in a while.

>>7778251
Just listened to it. It's actually really bad. Animations were decent, maybe good at best, but the song was trash.

>>7778728
I am incredibly impressed that someone would even attempt something like this let alone it sounding this good, I kneel to the hag.

>>7778251
Yeah its pretty shit

Im listening to it as I write this, it doesnt get better

But at least its "creative"...

>>7778686
How is this a low effort song? This is far from a generic J-Pop song. Just because it doesn't have much instrumental, does not make this easier to produce. If you are a music design illiterate, it be the best if (You) would shut up.

>>7778251
It's unique,but not memorable at all(like violet), won't play a second time

You know if an actual talented person makes a cover of this, it would be 10/10

>>7778728
Music normies you say, this song isn't a weaboo self insert song, or an edgyfest like the usual songs vtubers tend to do or cover, so unhygienic fatfucks will seethe. This is a nice containment thread.

>>7778251
It doesn't matter, holoive fans are brainwashed and would shitthemselves to anything from the talents.

The song is fucking great, much more interesting than the overproduced idolshit Cover usually turns out.

Yeah, I'm not feeling it at all. instrumental is literally 4 notes on repeat.
The animation is great, but everything else about this is bad. Especially comparing to Ahoy.

>>7778969
>its different so is great

Hang yourself

>>7779028
>more notes = better music
I cant agree but that is a very based opinion

Tied at the bottom are Sparks, this abomination, and cloudy sheep

>>7778251
shit taste
best hololive music ever created
sorry it's not your usual idol shit

>>7779094
Fuck you. Cloudy sheep was great

>>7779094
cloudy sheep was ruined by the wigger brapping into the mic for half of the song

>>7778251
that's real music you uncultured swine, bet you only listened to bts 24/7

>>7779030
>IT'S DIFFERENT SO IT'S BAD wahhh *violently shits pants*
Fuck off seamonkey

That instrumental is a disaster. The same 2 second segment over and over again.

>>7779204

Never said its bad because its different you dumb mentally disabled retarded subhuman

Its bad because ITS GARBAGE, shit produced, lazy trash

marine has the biggest balls in the fucking universe to go in with a track that sounds like Clark and Aphex Twin co-produced it

was expecting ahoy 2.0 but this is so much better

>single shittest piece of music hololive has ever created
REFLECT blocks your path

https://youtu.be/TPqTfNu5wDs

well.. it's yunomi with his experimental masterpiece

it's great stop trying to be edgy

>>7779279
Calling something like this lazy shows what a dumb fuck you are and why your opinion should be instantly discarded.

>>7778969

While people with mental disabilities think
>different = great
"Different" songs can be great, doesnt mean theyre always great, in fact most of the time theyre generic untalented garbage as you can SEE if you arent retarded.

>>7779204
Never said that it's bad because it is different, just that it being different does not make it good.

Don't you need to be an adult to post here?

>>7779366
bet all jazz music are trashes in ur opinion

even if you're not a fan of it you have to admit that it's leagues better than chimkin shit

>>7779279
Absolutely seething

>>7778758
Yeah if the water had sewage shit in it, sewage shit drinker.

>>7779324
Says a retard like you?

As if you actually knew what SHOULD be discarded or not lmao, OR as if you knew what is lazy and/or great

Youre just a drooling retard, and ironically YOUR opinion should be discarded until you are able to overcome your OBVIOUS mental disability

>>7778251
>Marine's Unison may be the single shittest piece of music hololive has ever created.
Your opinion is factually incorrect. Pic related.

>>7779404
Youre just retarded if thats your honest take of what i said

>>7779279
see >>7779454

its not bad, its different and hypnotizing

>>7779454

>>7779465
Kek. 80% of those were given before the premiere.

>I wish holo's stopped releasing generic anime songs!
>wtf marine's new song is weird and different, this sucks!
I was on the fence until the chorus kicked in, then I was fully hooked

I respect your opinion, anon. Wish you liked my oshi, but you can't force these things.

>>7778251
It's one of the best Hololive song.

>>7779579
Generic anime song gave us Ahoy!. This song gave me cancer

>Its different so its great
Literal mental disability

>>7778251
not her usual style, yeah

>Its different so its bad
Literal mental disability

I get most people opinions here. For those that think it's great because ot is different: No, it is certainly good since if it weren't it would sound jarring, doing these kind of experimental stuff is hard to do right. But there is a lot better out there.
For those that hate it: The song isn't for you. Your brain has difficulty with unknown patterns and thus the music sound bad, simple listen to more unusual genres and you get a taste of it. This isn't your cheap ice scream sugar bomb that just taste good, this has texture and details. Or you are that much of a sperg that you hate anything but perfection, you do you. I at least appreciate artists broaden their horizon.

>>7779563
People can un-like videos Anon. Unison has an overwhelmingly positive ratio because 99% of viewers love it.

>>7779603
I don't hate marine at all. Just the song.

>>7779629
>i can't appreciate polyrhythms
literal retardation, go back to listening to kidz bop, honky

>>7779678
Then that's great. It's healthy to be able to dislike things without your opinion of the people behind it changing.

>>7779666
>Unliking Marine
Are you a fag? Even if the song is shit, I would not do that.

I was expecting a upbeat fast tempo j-trance song I was disappointed. The song sucks ass I hate modern j-pop. MV animation was really good.

>>7779734
what a simp

>>7779755
truth so hard the jannies deleted it lmao

>>7779666
This thread is evidence that you are false.

>>7778251
oh look it`s antichama again

>>7779776
Thank you.

It's actually really good, you guys just don't understand music

Can you even sing this in a karaoke?

>>7779843
>a handful of retards disliked Unison on Jewtube
>this thread is composed of a handful of retards complaining about Unison
This is proof only a handful of retards don't like Unison.

>>7779755
It's not groundbreaking but it's certainly a refreshing change of pace for HoloPro. It's very well put together and has a distinct identity. It also has great production values. It's a great song, and it's "experimental" for its context. Of course, if you listen to the most prominent IDM/Future Bass/Drum & Bass artists you're gonna find more complex pieces, but that doesn't make this a bad composition.

>>7779028
theres literally a classical song a renowned one that just repeast over time and just adds some other percussive instruments with the same rhythm.

>>7779171
calm down dude. no need to go that far

>>7780044
and only a handful amount of people could appreciate classical music

>>7780128
God I am glad I am not this much of a pleb

All the “YOU GUYS JUST DON’T GEEET IT OKK??” are cracking me up. I liked the song, but why do you idiots act like not liking it must absolutely mean you’re so sort of grade-A retard? You fucks sound like the “starving artists” you see screeching on Twitter. Even if you feel personally insulted because Marine is your oshi she wasn’t the one who came up with the soundtrack anyway, plus it’s a Hololive song so it would still be doing very well in terms of numbers and people listening even if they tried to make it as trash as they could. Shit has 49k likes ans 300 dislikes on Youtube. The hivemind has already spoken and they like it.

>>7780128
You are so super duper incredibly smart and you have the best, most refined and cultured taste in music.

>>7779963
Marine herself said in a stream that it's not a song that she can sing live

>>7780241
I guess it's more the fact that most people here aren't just saying they dislike it, but act as if liking it makes you sub-human

>>7778251
Acid pop.
I thought Hololive is supposed to encourage personal growth. Why are they endorsing drug consumption? No, I will not take my meds.

>>7778251
what do you call this type of music genre? it reminded me of a touhou arrange but i cant remember which.

Song's alright, just very weird to hear a Yunomi track with slower paced singer and them not being high pitched.

>>7780347
Eh, I guess the point still stands. In all cases I don’t really give a fuck since in my head all Holo stans are like this guy.

>>7780271
thank you

>Normies can't into more experimental music
The only think it lacks is a hook, but other than that, it's a really interesting way to push foward other routes, i'm tired of idol shit, this is why Sparks works in the first place.

>>7779028
Are you talking about SSS?

>>7779296
mentions aphex twin. SOVL

>>7780452
Sparks worked? It seemed like a total flop when it came out. And it really, really didn’t try to distance itself from the idol/pop garbage you usually hear.

I'll be the first one to say it. The song is Akira as fuck.

>>7780406
Minus thinking they're infallible, based.
Now back on topic, it's very much experimental/acquired-taste. Can't really say much because I don't have the /mu/ cred, but I appreciate Marine trying something new in holopro originals.
What I'm curious about is its time signature(s) - what is it, really?

Unison was a solid 9/10.
OP is a faggot.

I wished there was more layers to the chorus. Other than that it’s definitely refreshing compared to all other stuff hololive puts out.

2 Vtuber songs by Yunomi released within 2 days. Patra's had nice beats and vibe except a weird chorus that is different from normie jpop. Marine's had weird ass beats and pacings but a very catchy chorus.... Hope he/she didnt intentionally compose it polar opposites because he got 2 song requests in the same time period.

>>7780509
It's most likely just 4/4 due to how synths change after 4 beats. It's just weird rhythm choices. If anything Marine's the one not singing in 4/4.

The video is amazing but I don't see myself repeating watching the video as much compared to if the song was really good

amazing song, will be stuck in my head for a while

>>7780504
>1.1 million views in a month
>Sparks worked? It seemed like a total flop when it came out.
I hope you can learn to separate your opinion from reality one day Anon

>>7780504
Hyperpop is a genre still unexplored, the fact that Kiara took the risk to ask Kira to make this it's a call of how big her balls are. To hell with you faggot.

>>7780504
Sparks is a solid K-pop track. It's not experimental, but it's a novel sound for HoloPro and it's pretty catchy, certainly better than many other Holo originals. Not a huge fan of the lyrics though.

>>7780452
songs like this isnt meant for hooks. This is structured like techno.

>>7780509
I think 5/4 to 4/4, i won't call this Prog Pop, but it's really interesting someone actually caring about the signatures inside Hololive, that's a huge step beyond into making Hololive Originals interesting.

>>7780837
She didn't make the song, yunomi did. Didn't know yunomi was part of hololive

>>7780509
4/4 but accented like djent rhythm

>>7778251
Finally not a generic jpop idol shit song.
Most Holo songs that release I'll listen to them once and move on.
Don't get me wrong. Most of them are decent but at the end of the day they're still generic jpop idol songs.
I think this songs gets better the more you listen to it.
I kind of wish the refrain was repeatet atleast one more time but overall a very memorable and kino song that just screams SOUL.
8.5/10

>>7780829
Yeah, i know, that's something i need to chew on later if i get the loop approval, i have some Prog Trance albums in my brain like Moshic, so i understand Marine's direction with Unison, extremely risky.

>>7780773
Sparks is Hyperpop? I thought that genre sounds like stuff 100 gecs makes

It made me want to play Katamari Damacy

Activated my MKULTRA programming/10

>>7780773
Because no one cares about Hyperpop because it is gay music. literally

>>7780890
I would love to Violet took this direction, the PV has a huge impression that it was going to be a IDM thing but at the end was another J-Pop song that i have heard million of time before, Lumina you fucking hack.

>>7780892
>Marine's direction
You mean yunomi right? God holobronies love to worship their "idols" and push aside the actual talents

>>7780956
Anon, regardless of you being right about Yunomi being the main musical producer behind it, it's not like Marine has no input on her songs. I highly doubt Yunomi just wrote this entire song without any input from the one he was releasing it for.

>>7780903
K-Pop doesn't sound like Sparks, but listen to Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen or Dua Lipa recent albums and you might get where Kira/Kiara get the ideas for the song, the fact people tell is a K-Pop song really tell that nobody really listen to music anymore and just get things from playlist on spotify, what a sad shit.
>>7780933
Have a (You) so you can be happy

>>7781029
Fuck you Damascus, I listened to some TWICE shit that sounds exactly like Sparks

Jesas schizo, it's a Yunomi/Marine project. Take your meds, you're not going to fit into your shitty doxxcord.

I really started to like it as it went on

>>7780956
Not who you're replying to, but I think yunomi (or the other composers, assuming a different original) is implied every time. Also, I'm pretty sure it's the talents themselves who pick which artists to commission and work closely with them to get their vision as close to what they want as said artist can.
tl;dr fuck off dramafag

>>7781024
Yeah right, you probably think that the idea guy has any contribution to a product right? Damn it must be so hard saying things like "I want the song to sound better, more oomph" or " I think it could be better". Nice inputs kek. All idols are like that holobronie. Yunomi is the one doing all the work. OMG, marine must be the genius here despite yunomi having produced tons of different tracks that are unique and great. Listen to her other work and the ones she made for other people and tell me that marine is the one that made the song great

>>7781093
Ah yes, just like how Levitating is a Da baby song right?

>>7781106
I mean, he tried with Sparks, he tried with the producer, tried with the "I BET YOU LIKE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT", this schizo is going crazy. Of course people will like different things when you have the same songs all over again like 40 times, this is the same reason why Love Live songs lost the magic since Sunshine because the trick is gone.

Of course, an anti rumbling schizo won't even connect the dots.

>>7781196
>Nigger Music

This is absolutely the best song hololive has put out, by a mile. It's not some idolshit song.

>>7781156
>Yeah right, you probably think that the idea guy has any contribution to a product right?
Y... yeah? Hard to take things without figuring out a concept to begin with.
>Damn it must be so hard saying things like "I want the song to sound better, more oomph" or " I think it could be better".
confusing effort with worth. Something tells me you don't appreciate editors and second-PoVs in the work process, either.
Peak "why can't it be both" here.
t. not the anon you're replying to, either

>>7781196
Dababy is the sole creative genius behind each and every one of his tracks and I refuse to take my meds.

I want Rushia to produce an album with Boris

>>7781156
take a listen to ahoy. The producer wont think exactly of that without marine's vision. Its similar to unison.

>>7780768
1.1 million views in 1 month is insane. But we’re talking about Hololive here, not some random indie

It's decent, but uncultured idolfags don't understand music

>7781156
>new IP
Again anon, never was dismissing the fact of Yunomi being the main musical force behind the song. Yunomi going a more artsy route for once definitely can be attributed to someone's influence whether that be Patra or Marine, as they were likely produced at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Yunomi would do these two similar songs without some sort of insider input.

>>7781285
Tell me how saying how you would like a song to sound like contributes to notes, chords, tempo, arrangement?
Yunomi can produce great songs working with anyone. Can you say the same about marine? That's why all her songs have been great right? And Ahoy is totally an original song that totally didn't plagiarize another anisong right?

>7781475
>new IP

>>7781352
Yeah? Have you seen the average views of original songs? The 1M marks is huge for a reason, and you may wonder about Reflect and Calli songs, but Reflect was a highly awaited song with the biggest in number talent of Hololive (Which is a mess of a song, really fit on Gura's personality) and the other was an already musician who was mid big already. I still believe that Aki's songs deserve the 1M

>>7781401
>>7781510
medicate yourself

>>7781401
>I find it hard to believe that Yunomi would do these two similar songs without some sort of insider input.
Any proof or this other than the imagination in your head? How is this any different than the rrats this shithole breeds everyday?

This schizo is going hard, come on, do something else in yourself life already, or you got rejected by the minor you tried to groom or something?

>>7781514
Calli’s roomate was not mid big already, comon. Quite with the coping already Sparks flopped for a Hololive song. I agree that reflect was hyped as fuck, but Kiara literally made a meme out of the “stream sparks” thing because she herself admitted it kind of didn’t do as well as it could. It also got released right in the middle announcement so the retards were more excited about their new toy than her song. Why are KFPs so fucking hardcore in the way they simp

>>7780890
My god I just listened to it with headphones and that ASMR section made me almost jizz my pants.
Best song out of Hololive for me personally.

>>7781622
I'm not OP you retard. I just hate how idolfags tend to overrate their oshi"@ contribution to a work when the actual talents are the artists, animators, mixers, producers and composers behind anything they out out. How is it any different than how kpop stans behave?

>>7781557
Isn't most of this argument being whether Marine had an input on the song or not? There's no real way of knowing besides imagination or whatever that comes out of Marine's mouth.

>>7781663
I meant it got released right in the middle of the Irys announcement.

>>7781663
Stream Sparks was made by the other Holo members in the collab for Kiara's birthday, i know you don't watch stream, but please, do your reps before shitposting.

>>7781475
A lot, actually. Off the top of my head, informing a metal composer that I want a style closer to dBu's usual results in something radically different from requesting a Demetori-like.
Also, unironically, stop. Take a breath and realize that we're not suggesting in any way that Yunomi's a minor part of Unison's production. In fact, the most I can claim is that Marine's brave for asking this sort of style from Yunomi.

>>7781663
>Quite with the coping already Sparks flopped for a Hololive song
Imagine coping this hard. Sparks is a success and there's nothing you can do but cry about it, schizo.

>>7781702
Have a (You) to be validated in a anonymous board

>>7778251
Marineschizo-kun, you shouldn't be working so much, you need to take more vacations for your own health.

>>7781702
This. It’s fine to like the song and respect the talent of the idols within Hololive, they wouldn’t be in Hololive to begin with if they weren’t talented but stop attributing all the merit to one individual person. There’s a reason why most Holos only release covers when they do music only on their own, music is hard to do right especially when your audience is as big as the one Hololive has. That’s why they all go with renown composers and producers when doing an original song. There’s nothing wrong with it since getting that talent takes years and Holos are more skilled at being entertainers to being with but you would never in a million years get that kind of quality outside of Holo. Money talks at the end of the day.

>7781849
>No IP change
Stop selffagging nigger

>>7778923
Explain Smile and Go

>>7781849
I suppose the difference here is that the guy you're replying to is attributing something I've never said in their misguided crusade. I'm not stupid; I went and credited the MV-makers for Flare's Kaibutsu cover first because they did a really good job, for fuck's sake. If people can't read a description and notice all the credits listed every time, that's on them.

>>7781901
?? If you don’t know shit about what you’re talking about just shut the fuck up. I only see this retarded IP talk on this specific board.

>>7781964
How much contribution did you think Marine had on the song?

>>7781906
I like Flare's singing, but I think Smile and Go is a poor show of her capabilities. Feels like a knockoff of "Nenenenenenene!".

>>7781964
I love how the schizo goes like "YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT OTHER THAT THE TALENT" on 4chan of all places, where people here knows how the process of making a song works, because, they watch the talent explaining it on stream instead of watching damm clips. The only people i know they can't read a shit are mostly redditfags, and he won't take the fight there because he's probably banned already.

>>7778686
It was not low-effort, it was just had a weird electronic tone in the background that was really distracting. I don't know the proper term to describe it in musical term, I know that I keep thinking of this sequence from the Pierrot episode of Cowboy Bebop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNzO50w2JK4

I still like Marine and just consider this a rare miss considering her fun musical career.

>>7782048
Ironic because Lunch With Me is a WAY better song for Nene and still doesn't have a MV on her channel.

>>7782018
Marine : hey yunomi, can you add more stuff here? Maybe add more power to it , give it a little more punch
Yunomi : O-okay..
I think that's how it went behind the scenes

>>7782018
Since the question is "what did you think", don't blame me for inaccurate estimates. I'm no /mu/. I'd estimate it at around 30% though: the style doesn't seem like something Marine has significant expertise with, but she definitely had a hand in the lyrics being as sensual as they are. That, and I don't doubt that she suggested this direction in the first place.

>>7781326
"you know that popular 2hu song you made all years ago? I want that"
"gotcha"

>modern amateur "producers" trying to defend modern drone noisy garbage
Go listen to Asturias

>>7782076
Absolutely inane of him. I can shit on /vt/ all day but one thing I can't shit it (outside of tourists and dramafags) on is the median level of "being informed". Look in the right threads and observe carefully and you can expect serious answers from the discerning.

>>7780363
Take your meds or Rei will have to pilot the EVA again.

>>7782018
She talked about this during her Membership stream just now.

I'm not surprised to see that the reaction is mixed atm, but this will def go down as one of, if not the best, hololive song. Mmw

>>7782422
Welllll, I dont buy memberships. I’ll just take what the other anons said then

>>7782518
Don't take what I said at face value; I'm not a member, either. It just seems pretty standard-procedure to me.

>>7782603
I’m no expert either but 30% make sense to me. She definitely had a bigger impact on the lyrics in my opinion.

>>7782250
Then
>>7782518
>>7782603
Holy shit kek, the irony

Suisei

>>7782713
Just because I'm not a member doesn't mean I don't have the faintest idea about how music commissions work. Come on, now.
That aside, I might be partly wrong in assuming the median is that high, but I still stand by the idea that dramafag above is shouting at the wrong anons to begin with.

I thought it was cool as fuck

>>7778251
Dumb fucking tasteless Amerimutt. Its the best and the most "cultured" track ever in the industry. Its not genuine techno but still it has similar vibes to decent techno/dream pop and on top of that it doesnt even sound old. Its modernised a good subtle way. Oldschool FM sounds like DX7/DX100 are mainly used for the track, but you Mutt faggots and most Spic homos cant even figure out what the sounds are and its coolness despite the history that techno originally came from the west, while Marine and her friends can somehow recall, reproduce, modernise such "traditional western cultured" stuff .

You Amerimutt faggots can listen to piece of shit junk like EDM trash and enjoy your garbage postmodern life.

The song is not bad but the faggots that act like this song is the greatest thing ever need to kill themselves.

>>7783455
Schizo talk, skimmed through it and it reeked of mental illness.

>>7778251
Gonna be honest...I didn't care for it. It's probably supposed to appeal to some stylistic niche, but in general it's just not a fun song.

>>7783563
Modern Amerimutt music is fucking garbage and you are cultureless faggots. Music like this is for Japanese and Euros. Not tor you fucking homos. You can only listen to postmodern junk like EDM or "vintage and retro" "cool" chiptune shit. Most of which are just rip offs of Japanese NES/SNES tunes.

>>7783603
Fucking word, retards here only act like they like it to bait or to be contrarianfags. If I want to listen to experimental stuff I wouldn't look for songs make by fucking Vtubers.

>>7783701
Most EDM has its roots in European electronic music

>>7781906
love flare but its nothing worth listening

>>7781352
nigger Flare's original song still can't break past 300k, and then there's Watame's songs, most of whom don't even reach one million. Hololive is big but it's not that fucking big.

>>7778728
Based
>>7778908
Cringe

>>7783795
Quality still matters

>>7783455
I dont care about such complex terms. if it sounds shit to my ears then it's shit

>>7778251
My lovely dearest marineschizo, please take care of yourself and dont push yourself too hard. I have times where was pondering on your wellbeing and I want to say to you that I wish that you care about yourself more because man you still cannot see how wondrous you truly are. Once again, keep being you and I hope you will continously bring joy and happiness to me everytime I visit here.

>>7783766
No euros imported it from Canada and The US. They however are indeed fucking americanised, like they consume EDM garbage more than their own techno/electronic pop music, so most of them cant figure out what kind of music this is either. Its really ironic that only Japan has still valued and upgraded such basic and classic western pop music. This goes for other genres too, like Goth shit. Its totally dead in mainstream media in the west but Goth/Goth loli shit is still alive in Japan and has become one of the established styles.

>>7783994
Then go listen to your EDM trash or something.

marine will revolutionize vtuber music to be not just idolshit/vocaloid cover?
Pretty based.

>>7784050
>imagine thinking literally only one person wouldn't like this song
you marinefags are fucking delusional

>>7784057
>Goth/Goth loli shit is still alive in Japan and has become one of the established styles.
No its fucking not, if you seriously believe this, please take your meds.

>>7779666
by that logic BTS is the greatest music humanity has ever produced. Let's not talk about mumble rap...

I liked it.

>>7779167
Just like this thread was ruined by your shitty opinion

I cannot stop thinking about it. It sounds like it was rendered with half of the tracks muted.

>>7784156
This topic has a regular topic on /co/. Theyd agree with me. Goth was wiped off at some point from western mainstream media. Name one popular modern cartoon show or comic with Goth style. You cant. Its still alive in a niche/underground scene ofc, like on Bandcamp you can find a bunch of shitty mediocre Goth-like musicians, but they are absolutely niche.

>>7780507
that pic makes me feel like I got struck by a lightning, shit man, I'd take hyper realistic images of everyday life with your Oshi over smut porn shit any day

>>7784300
Sorry to break this to you, anon, but comics and cartoons are not complete representation of the mainstream media.

>>7778402
So it's like Sparks or Kiara's version of Goodbye Declaration?

>>7778728
You really sound like a hipster, Fantano.

>The song shit because Marine was involved with the production
>The song is alright thanks to Yunomi, the whore on the vocals had literally nothing to do with it

>>7778251
Filtered

>>7784423
Same goes for other genres. Theres no mainstream film with Goth style. No game either. Dont tell me that cape garbage films like Hurley queen are goth or "sensitive" YA zoomer fantasy is that.

I like the chorus and the ending a lot, but the opening would make me wanna skip this on a playlist.

Marine is very sexy though so 9/10.

>>7784504
Fashion? Goth is still extremely relevant in fashion. Even in music, rock, metal and punk are still genres that goth listen to regularly.

>>7778251
Wrong, see:
All of Calli's music
Reflect
Irys's original songs

>>7780321
What's even the point then

>>7784867
experimental shit cause marine is retarded and want to divide her fanbase for no reason at all.

>>7783819
Quality is a subjective Murray

>>7784584
No. I know well about fashion too, but goth is dead in the west. It was never popular in the mainstream fashion industry to begin with. Even in Japan, its treated as a quirky genre. Goth is basically for LARPers. its more of cosplaying than of fashion. Goth as casual fashion came from the street fashion industry in the late 90s/the early 00s, and theres no such street brand in the US now.

>music
Like I said, you can find a bunch of Goth shit on Bandcamp, but it doesnt mean they still have a cultural influence. Most old western subcultures like, Goth, Punk incl Hardcore/Grindcore/Grunge, Techno etc are absolutely niche today. Guess why? Because you faggots dont buy their MP3s and the musicians also only repeat/ape old mediocre garbage like soulless remakes in Hollywood/Netflix. The west is creatively bankrupt unironically. Rock and metal are too vague to talk as a category. They have too many subgenres.

>>7784867
To beat Sui and Aqua’s originals in one day

>>7784901
Even a shanty would have been better

>>7784504
I hope you're not saying this seriously anon, are you living under a rock of something?

>>7784568
The slow start is a perfect buildup for the banger ending

>>7783747
>experimental
this. been itching me not knowing what the hell i should call it

>>7778908
Okay, point me out one good thing about that song except for “muh creativity” then.

>>7779666
no way Satan, i like it for it's Marine's

>>7783747
If I want to listen to music I don't listen to anything made by vtubers because everything they make is garbage.

>>7783747
This is so stupid, the fact people inside of V-tuber media do things like experiments is why the scene is still alive, the "Go elsewhere if you want X shit" is retarded, i want the media to advance and have a progression, not have it as a idol shit with not love and really not caring about the talents visions.

>>7785130
vtuber = shit quality
This is a fact

>>7785191
Have a (You), i know you really want that attention

>>7784996
you arent even bringing a single sample to prove your standpoint. which just means you are in denial. the west has weakened that much. unless you face the reality, nothing will improve.

Is it just me or does Marine's new song feel like huge blue balling?

>>7785256
Anon, what in the fuck are you trying to say? Do burgers are totally incapable to think anymore?

>>7784919
>It was never popular in the mainstream fashion industry to begin with.
Not sure if you're joking but Goth fashion is still extremely relevant, just take a look at designers like Rick Owens or Yohji Yamamoto.

You fags must have such a terrible music taste which is preventing you from enjoying this. Unison is quite a nice song and not only because it's different.

>>7785130
>Go elsewhere if you want X shit
yeah pretty much what I want, experimental are not what i associated with anime girls and I don't want to listen to that shit here.

I had a feeling it would be good just from reading this thread and that feeling turned out to be correct. Thanks guys.

>>7785486
Sorry, experimental shit is going to stay here, so see you in your next rant, schizo

>it doesn’t sound like an Idolm@ster song
>it’s shit!
Please never open your car windows while playing your “music” collection anons.

>>7785191
This in terms of music. I like vtubers as entertainers, though some music they produce is somewhat nice I wouldn’t add their songs in my playlists. Only turbo autists actually do that.

>>7785245
I don't need or want your attention. I'm only here to tell the truth.

I like it.

>>7785610
instantly resorting to buzzwords when cornered, marinefags are truly the worst thing on this board.

>>7785309
you are just showing how cultureless you and the westerners are. also im sure you dont even have any knowledge of subculture other than mega casual nerdy shit for redditor nerds.

also, music like this is literally one of the most cultured styles in anime. its in the same category as creative shows, like lain, akira, gits, studio 4c stuff, matsumoto taiyo stuff, etc even though marine isnt such a kind of person. she however mustve liked such vibes back then, so tried this.

>>7785346
popular on tumblr or twatter? that wouldnt mean anything. it can be said popular, if it had an influence on mainstream media or other genres. goth shit is dead in the west. ironically, one of marines outfits are goth/goth loli but in the west no mainstream/casual pop culture has such a way of stylising anymore

>>7785635
It is objectively garbage.

>>7785691
Not human being posses the true, specially if you're on 4chan

>>7785722
Dude, i like Unison, you're replying to the wrong anon

>>7778251
Wow, what a shit opinion to have, fucking normalfag.

>>7785709
I think i read this post before, it was about KFP, Deadbeats, Kenzokus, Nousagis and other. This is why are you ranting about? Your lack of creativity even to shitpost?

>>7785722
Sorry but y-3 and RO is extremely popular, just ask /fa/ if you want.
And also, you think gothic lolita trend have an impact on mainstream media in japan?

This song felt more like an unfinished experiment.

>>7785812
Wow instantly dragging other fanbases into this for absolutely no reason at all, you're truly desperate. Meds and BBC now, marinefag.

>>7785866
Why are takos like this?

>>7785866
You're the one who made it into a fanbase thing you fucking tard.

>>7778251
THIS IS ALL THE SISTER FAULT, THE BITCH MOVED IN AND MARINE STARTED EXPERIMENTING WITH RYONA AND NOW THIS??????

>>7785929
>Someone talk about Spark
>KFP ARE KEKS
>Someone talk about Reflect being shit
>Ha ha Marinefags are jealous
>Someone mention a low effort shitpost
>Get angry
>Someone said "Schizo"
>"STOP USING BUZZWORDS COPE SEETHE AND DELATE MARINEFAG HOLOBRONIE"
btw the song is almost 500K

Marine filtering the idolplebs with a wonky progressive house track. Could she get any more based?

Sorry guys, took my meds, the song is not that bad.

>>7786153
after like the third time you realize it's good

>>7786212
It's still not my taste, but I also won't arguing about it on a Mongolian basket weaving forum anymore.

>>7785942
Wait Marine’ sister moved in with her?

>>7786289
*won't argue

>>7786153
>>7786212
Stoner pop. Reminds me to ME!ME!ME! It has a viral potential. We'll see how it goes.

>>7778251
My man completely forgot that mogu mogu yummy exists, can't blame em tho

>>7785827
huh? y3 isnt a goth brand. yoji is a designer of high end street brand like cdg. also its a japanese brand. idk at all about ro.

like i said, goth is treated as a quirky genre in japan. whether goth or goth loli, they are much closer to larpers. they live in their fantasy. otherwise you dont wear goth clothes and say shitty melancholic grimdark shit. "casual goth/gothic lolita fashion" is more poppy and edgy teenagers still actually consume it in japan, which is going to be their kurorekishi, but they dont live in goth fantasy. similar to casual punk fashion.

>>7786310
Not yet, they're looking for a house. Her current place is too tiny for two people to comfortably live in, especially because of streaming.

>>7778251
I fuckin LOVE it

>>7786394
Are Japanese houses tiny as fuck still? Maybe in the countryside it’s better?

>>7786358
Is stoner pop even a thing? The two songs are nothing alike.

>>7778251
I actually love it. I'm all for weird experimental shit like this. So glad it's not another anime-pop shit.

>>7786358
>>7786455
Unison reminded me more of techno rather than song like me!me!me desu

Song just seems like it's stuck in 1st gear the whole time.

>experimental
what the fuck, I know you can hate how it's mostly crazy with the reverb and minimal main beat but I respect the effort, I usually expect jpop shit from Hololive.

>>7786503
Most people still don't even know what techno actually is and don't appreciate any kind of non-pop electronic music.

>>7778251
My favorite song that's been released this year. I kneel hagchads

>>7786559
Listen to the percussion.

>>7778251
It's a fucking masterpiece and I'm in love with this woman. This experimental shit is based as fuck.

>>7778251
Holy shit that song is bad, I hope it contributes to end the fad of this coombait whore

>>7786503
its techno/dream pop. the classic fm sounds are pretty much like old school detroit techno sounds. the vocal style is more like dream pop from the 90s europe.

This may be one of those songs I grow to like with exposure.

>>7778251
ABSOLUTELY the worst take ever. unison is the first time I felt a vtuber track should have an album behind it. yunomi did a great job felt like if blank body stuck to normal time signatures and made a jpop inspired song. cant wait for cool remixes to come out

>>7786717
>>7786759
the duality of man

>>7784208
cloud rap is good and your old smelly and got no hoes

>>7786831
>unison is the first time I felt a vtuber track should have an album behind it.
Did you hear this yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJyr6V8W5JA

>>7778251
baby's first exposure to denpa

>>7786922
Mumble rap and cloud rap aren't the same thing. There's crossover between them though.

>>7786831
>first time I felt a vtuber track should have an album behind it.
it was tenkyuu for me, that song is still pure SOVL with how suichan sang her heart out back then.

>>7778251
I went into the song expecting it to be shit due to all the hate it got, but I was confused about all that once I'd finished listening to the song.
After a few more listens, I came to the stunning realization that I had no choice but to listen to this absolute banger on replay.

>>7786997
not until now... damn this guy should really just make an album with a bunch of vtubers backing every track

>>7778251
It isn't sung by a HoloEN, that instantly makes it better than tons of songs

I hope someone makes a proper remix

because of people like you /mu/ is dead

Let's play! Standard South
https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=12135

>>7789125
wrong thread, oops

Why did she release this on the same day as watame's original song?

So this is just something we do for every Holoriginal now, huh

>>7789210
Why did Watame force her song release into a week of debuts?

Lots of haters but I really like it. Most Vtuber songs sound like anime OPs, and I've never been a fan of that genre. This was different and I enjoyed it a lot more because of it.

>>7778251
>>7778675
Observe these two threads with just one slight variation and you'll understand why this board is full of schizos

>>7789210
Watame has been releasing original songs regularly. It's fine, nobody is trying to compete with each other.

>>7778251
Yeah, wish it was another generic jpop type song that we've heard a billion times already. For shame, Hololive! How dare you create something original. Personally I loved it.

>>7789210
This is the 4th original song Watame has tossed into the ocean without a life-jacket in a row. I don't think she cares anymore.

>>7786997
Give me more

>>7778251

Good to know the song has Marineschitzo's seal of approval.

>>7789155
no worries, best of luck in your game

I can't say I fully like it, but there's something about her voice and the track that makes it hypnotizing and draws me in. Can't stop listening.

I like the build ups but other than that it's really just ok. Yunomi has quite of few of these odd out there songs which are mostly misses for me.

>>7778251
it gives off the feeling of being an experimental something a musician high off their own farts would come up with

>>7779663
get off 4chan before you catch whatever these seething retards have

I like it, but I like all music really, I'm not picky

I like it kinda. I think it's about equally as good as Gura's Reflect (probably a bit better). Pretty good as far as original songs go for Hololive standards.

>>7792435
NPC without any musical knowledge outside of generic trash.

>>7778251
i unironically like the song a lot.

>>7793060
I can definitely listen to this over Reflect, which I still haven't finished.

>>7778728
This, her mv was a litmus test to expose retards like op who listen to ape tapes all day and have a spaced out faggot brain who can only conceive of their basic impulses.

>>7795047
Same it reminds me of Thom Yorke's solo albums and aphex twin even, very unexpected because I don't really like jpop engineered shit with maximum appeal and stimulation values like most of these faggots seem to love to be fed, listening to the same garbage all the time just happy retard shit that doesn't expose you to anything new or make you think anything besides "durr dis music gives me good feefees"

>>7797015

you speak the truth brother

Being experimental doesn't make it good, I've listened to plenty of experimental music and it's usually very hit or miss. That being said, the song is decent, not completely horrible like some are saying but also not some groundbreaking masterpiece like others are saying. I'd give it a 6/10.

>>7797015
It's like Sparks too, but i think i like Unison over Sparks Even as a KFP employee sorely on how risky Marine went this time, don't get me wrong, from what Holo EN was making, even with Violet, Sparks is way better, but Unison it just on another level.