/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>77752023
Never knew it was confirmed their manager actually saw it but didn't reply for another 3 hours. I apologize for saying it took them 37 hours when it was clearly 34 + a confirmed ignored 3.

>>77752023
Clearly shows there was premeditation.
1. We know management have had many issues with Selen because she would complain on twitter about their bullshit.
2. We also knew that Selen was bullied by other, organs among which Millie is one of the main suspects.
3. This cover is something was Selen has been working for a while, so fucking with this project in such a date would certainly produce a major public reaction from Selen, which they probably were planning to use to remove her.
4. So to ensure things were as bad as possible from Selen perspective, the reason would be such a stupid thing as not having permission to show partial images of IP property of Nijisanji itself.
5. Add to the previous point, one of her bullies gloating in advance about it in twitter. This guaranteed that after the fact, Selen would have clear confirmation that this was another clear instance of bullying.
Their plan as we know work "too" well, they got a public reaction from Selen giving instructions to her following to use Nijisanji IP without Nijisanji consent, this would have been enough. But it did not end then for Selen, she tried to kill herself. This fucked with their plan as firing her would be the worst PR possible (yet this would be no problem for Enna to stream celebrating Selen's attemp the very same day)...
Regardless, this shitty company and the people enabling it from within were exposed and got what they deserved to an extend (they still deserve much worse).

>>77752023
I mean, it was pretty clear that mane-san was ghosting Selen on purpose.

Why didn't she just wait for perms like everyone else?

>>77754526
Why don't sisters just go back to their doxxsite?

>>77752023
They don't have the same manager, you retard. Stop your disinformation campaign

>>77752023
rent free

You people are so obsessed that it's not even funny anymore. Doki would want you to move on already.

STOP SHITTING ON NIJISANJI YOU RETARDED HOLOFAGS
I HOPE THAT BITCH MIO DIES FROM HER SICKNESSS AS KARMA

>>77757398
Trying too hard, shitposter chama. Just wait for the Q4 report meltdown.

>>77757398
Kek. We aren't holofags. We're worse. We're Dragoons. And in a few days, we will get to see just how much Riku fucked up by betraying us.

>>77752023
jezas..

>>77754526
Why doesn't kurosanji revive their worthless failing branch?

I really hope at some point, we can know what the fuck was going on in behind the scenes. I really would like to know what the fuck they were thinking doing this and have a bunch of questions.

>Why isolate and bully Selen?
>What really made Pomu leave?
>Does Elira actually have manager power? Is the clique real?
>Were all the shitty twitter snips actually about Selen? Ex. OP and Enna's "Greatest year of my life"
>Why did they make her firing a spectacle instead of just agreeing to graduate?
>Did they really think that black screen video was a good idea? Did the organs know what they were retweeting?
>What was the mood in Niji after the blackscreen/Hiatus/The Mass Unsubbing

I really hope someone comes forward one day to talk about what the fuck was going on.

>>77766720
This. Until we get more evidence, all we can do is speculate. And we've already done that to death.

He saw the size of my penis and couldn't help himself

>>77752023
Yeah, we all know there is only one manager in all of Nijisanji and they oversee everyone from every gen by themselves

>>77766720
We already know that Selen got rug pulled. At least one of the clique yanked the brake to kill the MV and there's a lot of people who took shots at her in public like Millie, Elira, Reimu, Enna, etc.

https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1754946895951077887

>>77769537
We should speculate about something else; eg how many times did Elira masturbate in the 2 months she stopped streaming for vs how many times was she fucked by Japs (possibly staff/investors) during the same time period?

>>77766720
>>Why did they make her firing a spectacle instead of just agreeing to graduate?
This one we do have an answer to: cartoonishly incompetent PR + it worked just peachy with Zaion.

>>77766720
>Why isolate and bully Selen?
They found out she got pregnant with my child
>What really made Pomu leave?
Finding out I was cheating on her with Selen
>Does Elira actually have manager power? Is the clique real?
The real clique leader was my cock
>Were all the shitty twitter snips actually about Selen? Ex. OP and Enna's "Greatest year of my life"
Everything they ever tweet is about Selen, even now
>Why did they make her firing a spectacle instead of just agreeing to graduate?
She aborted my kid
>Did they really think that black screen video was a good idea? Did the organs know what they were retweeting?
They did it because it was funny
>What was the mood in Niji after the blackscreen/Hiatus/The Mass Unsubbing
big orgy, everyday.

>>77769852
It still pisses me off to think about.
Sass like that should be reserved for entertainment, not actually used to dismiss or attack people.

>>77769852
I’m inclined to believe Reimu, out of all of them, is at least fine. Not because I watch her or even care, but through association with other chuubas. She’s still friendly with Dtto, who’s a close friend of Doki. The others don’t have such connection chains anymore.

>>77773145
It's a pretty direct hit. I'd imagine that's owing more to most people not even knowing it even happened.

>>77752023

>>77752023
Fuck, they're dirtier than I though. SINK THE YACHT

>>77752023
mane san is elira so… we all know why

TOTAL NIJIFAGGOT DEATH

>>77766720
>Why did they make her firing a spectacle instead of just agreeing to graduate?
Yugo already spilled the beans regarding this
She was supposedly the first one that was going to get Zaioned but she lawyered up and had that "graduation" instead
same thing probably happened to axia as well since niji wanted him to apologize to his fujo/yume fanbase and he said no
If you are asking why they made that bullet point thing? Its and old NND thing where they list every single offense a streamer does and parade it when they quit and since a ton of nijisanji livers and staff are nnd streamers then they adapted that behavior

>>77783261
Thanks for the history lesson, anon, I didn't know that about NND. That's fucked up.

>>77773145
>I think X is fine because she is still friends with Y
Grow up.

>>77783513
You should learn about it since every shitty trait and company culture nijisanji has stems from them hiring the jap equivalent of ricegum, paul bros etc and not reforming them

>>77757398
NIJISEETHE

>>77783261
NND? Urban dictionary didn't have it.

>>77787732
NTA but nico nico douga

>>77787788
Thanks.

>>77769970
>it worked just peachy with Zaion.
This is the crux of the matter, really. They got away with it splendidly and ever since reactivating her PL she's only made more messes.

>>77752503
fpbp and my favorite image

>>77788142
She's in a good place if you actually watch streams. She's having a blast with her friends.

>>77788433
I'm still waiting for a legendary graduation announcement stream where she states that while she will be retiring, the hat will debut as a solo talent with Nijisanji EN

>>77789192
NTA but in Jan she was still on the road to recovery. She was growing and doing well to distance herself from Niji, but she was still nowhere near healthy and the Doki thing ended up dragging her back.

>>77766720
>Does Elira actually have manager power? Is the clique real?
All known info about this is that each wave has a “leader” who is the one dealing with management.
Lazu - elira
Obsd - probably selen
Eth - millie
Lux - luca
Everyone else - ???

>>77752023
The "OK sign" part is what always get me, it is so fucking specific, why not just leave it at "confirmation"? And she brings the "OK" a second time, it is clear this fat orangutan was aware Selen did not received an OK emoji in her discord DMs with management, she was just maliciously rubbing it to Selen's face. And she start highlighting that this has never happened before, as in "you the troublemaker nobody likes is the only one who coincidentally is having this issue". Wishes for the issue to be solved "asap", but knows regardless there is no way this will be out in time as a Christmas present as was intended from Selen.
This fat bitch knew, she was on it gloating with Elira and Enna before it even happened, making one of their so common seemingly random tweets, which happened to be sneaky attacks at Selen.
Yes pagpag bitch, we know you knew beforehand Selen's cover would not be approved and lacked the stupid discord ok sign, yeah you are very smart piece of shit now look where you are, pagpag is starting too seem to expensive.

>>77790296
Wasn't it Petra? she was splitting roles early on

>>77790615
Dude it wasn't even about perms. That's a deflection. The crux of an issue was that unnamed livers didn't want to be in the MV period and raised a shitfit to get it iced. This wasn't a perms issue, it was a fucking targeted Hit on Selen.

>>77790296
Hard to imagine Luca when he had to use his hag to do all his work.

>>77792229
The hag was the one to confirm it.

>>77792229
"Leader" as in the one in contact with management. Which baffles me why it would be Luca because Shu is much better qualified for the role. Shu speaks Japanese, is good with tech, not menhera, and is in the clique

>>77790875
Stinks of foul play.

>>77792487
I have a feeling it doesn't quite work that way, considering luca and Ike were left out of nijifes, despite them having a "role" in this scenario.

>>77754526
because shes not retarded like everyone else?

>>77757398
NIJISEETHE

>>77784148
>hey Dtto.
>hey Doki!
>wanna hang out?
>ooh sorry, I'm hanging out with Reimu soon
>the girl who drove me to suicide and then mocked me on twitter for failing the attemp?
>yup!
>oh, okay. How about tomorrow then?
>sure, sounds good!
>hey tell reimu i hope her company burns to the ground and if I got the chance I would crush her trachea with a brick for what she did to me
>ha ha you got it doki! See you tomorrow!
Dumbass.

>>77790875
The least exciting rrat is if it were just Mysta
>give specific instructions that no one in niji is allowed to us mysta for anything ever again
>block everyone except for his handful of friends
>manesan cant get his perms because manesan goes straight to junkmail
>manesan gets pissy about being ignored by her special boy and decides to take it out on selen

>>77798947
>>give specific instructions that no one in niji is allowed to us mysta for anything ever again
But the AR Live literally used Mysta's voice.
He made a vaguepost about not even knowing about it, and when someone asked him about it he blew up at them, causing his unwell fans to send the poor girl death threats.

>>77754526
But she waited for like half a year at least?
Why was Nijisanji unable to get permissions for a song that doesn't even require permissions?

>>77798947
Big doubt.

>>77752023
Unironically what would it take for NijiEN to -at the very least- recover?
Riku releasing all assets and allowing them to be indie, but pay a 2% gross every year to Nijisansji?
Public execution of Elira, Uki, Millie, and Enna?

>>77799328
>Half a year
The earliest publicly known date of staff involvement with the MV was august 2022. So there was a 16 month window not even counting the unknown months before that.

>>77769852
Is this real

>>77799066
that's not what happened rrat peddler.

>>77799444
Yeah.

>>77799404
It's far, far too late for anyone in the subcount death spiral. Once the algorithm starts fucking with them this hard, it STOPS showing them to new people entirely, so the only people who get notified of their content is the people already subscribed. I don't think it's possible to recover the channels affected in any reasonable timeframe, if at all.
Yesterday Elira and Ike lost another 1k.
If we were to go off of the remaining "surviving" channels, then only Meloco, Wilson, Vanta, Hex, Maria, Claude, Vivi, Bandage, and Kunai have any potential to recover.
Nobody else has gained ANY subs in the past 30 days.
Just 9 out of over 30 active channels, and Hex's has 2 strikes and is a yab timebomb.

>>77799404
Nothing that retains the Niji branding really has a chance anymore. Even with a complete rebrand the channels themselves are probably giga-fucked by the algorithm and who knows if that is something Youtube will ever let them recover from.
Another looming problem in the hypothetical scenario where Niji puts any serious effort into recovering is that they don't have any good way to draw in attention or get new eyes on themselves. Debuts got spammed so much that nobody cares about new waves anymore. They don't have anything notable to put out that people would get excited over, there's close to nothing they can do that people can't already get in several other places. Even concerts are played-out now.

>>77799717
>We live in a world where Hex will get his channel deleted by jewtube before Marine

>>77797499
BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>77799833
Marine is a good girl who has never done anything inappropriate even once.

>>77752023
diabolical if you think about it lmao

>>77757398
Seethe

>>77799833
Good.

>>77773145
Didn't Reimu have that... very interestingly timed tweet about an "attempt" in her udon or something like that with a very snarky tone?

>>77752023
Christ what an absolute cunt. Who thinks it's okay to say some obvious two faced shit like that in public?

>>77800762
Remember when she admitted to grooming two little boys for sex?

>>77802044
It's true. I was both of them.

>>77799404
They need to actually walk back on the black stream and take corrective actions and not just power through like they didn't just push their employee to suicide and try and run a smear campaign on her

>>77802044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM3OGGvvZww
Even Japan usually draws the line at actual pedophilia

>>77802044
All me baby. Goo goo ga ga

>>77801454
I'm inclined to believe all latinas sound snaky, but that was too much of a coincidence

>>77787788
Around these parts we call it nico nico dogshit

>>77799475
Yes it is, Mysta has cast his lot together with the niji clique despite him leaving nijisanji

>>77799818
The bigger issue is that every time they draw new eyes upon themselves the new eyes look up nijisanji and they run into Charlie's video about them or asmon's video about them or one of the dozens of news articles about them driving one of their most popular talents to suicide and trying to run a smear campaign and get instantly turned against them. Until they fix their reputation, which cannot even begin to happen as long as the black stream is still up, no amount of publicity is going to actually get them a new audience. At best it's going to keep a hold on the audience they already have, and from the dwindling sub counts that doesn't seem very likely

>>77802372
Yea, there's latina sass and there's whatever bullshit she was trying to pull there

>>77802534
What the fuck are you talking about? You really think it was Mysta of all people who didn't give perms to appear in Selen's MV? The "ex-livers" was always a bullshit excuse and we all know it.

>>77803309
No I'm talking about Mysta giving permissions for his voice to be used in the ar live, thus proving that he still associates with Nijisanji and is thus just as tainted as he was when he is Mysta

>>77803544
Anon, he did not give his permission to use his voice. That was the whole point of the tweet. >Some people said they heard me in a concert. I don't remember being in one.
Him blowing up at the woman asking the question was just his own mental illness.
Pomu likely didn't know either. Her voice showed up during the diamond city lights exhibition.
Despite what the sisters might love to push, Nijisanji does NOT require permission from ex-organs to use Nijisanji's own IP.

>>77784148
This, a lot of chuubas are cordial with the worst people on the internet but don't care until they're publicly admonished and become a brand risk. It's all about networking and not about being friends.

>>77766720
>Why isolate and bully Selen?
She probably never really fit in. I dont think she was 'bullied' per se since a week prior she was doing fine in the offcollab a week prior.
Management historically sucks ass and if she never got along with Ethyria and the nijimales it probably sucked to work there.
Millie or Nina were friends with their managers so they could get replies within the minute. Selen's manager ghosted her for 24+ hours at a time on every project despite Selen doing the most out of everyone in Niji.
She's much better as an indie where she can just collab with whoever she wants.
To be honest if you believe the clique/bullying allegations you're more or less dragging half the vtuber industry with Niji. If Elira is implicated then so is Pomu. If Millie is implicated then so is Nina.
>What really made Pomu leave?
Worst management in vtuber history botched her MGS collab.
Japanese yes-man culture upper management told her to shut the fuck up about it.
They touched on this on the mintara podcast.
>Does Elira actually have manager power?
No but she's one of maybe 3 talents (Elira, Luca, Millie, Nina) that is extroverted and not autistic so she's the only one that can actually talk to management.
So she might aswell.
Selen herself mentioned how she struggled to talk to her managers because she had anxiety. Finana ghosts her manager.
>Is the clique real?
Nijisister rrat. "The clique" maps to "every female in niji that doesnt glaze my favorite nijiboy".
Over time it became that but for "doesnt glaze my favorite nijigirl".
>Were all the shitty twitter snips actually about Selen? Ex. OP and Enna's "Greatest year of my life"
Probably. I think people just thought she was fucking around.
No one would actually throw that much of a fit over an MV delayed a day and a half, but for Selen it was the last straw. It wasnt really about the video for her.
>Why did they make her firing a spectacle instead of just agreeing to graduate?
Worst management in vtuber history.
Worked with Zaion.
Miscommunication between JP and EN side made them "apologize" twice, bad PR both times.
Japanese yes-man cutlure.
Selen had a large fanbase. There are no Zaion threads.
>Did they really think that black screen video was a good idea?
Probably. Made sense from their POV if they'd just been served court papers namedropping them in a suicide attempt workplace harassment suit.

None of this is a secret, you just have to watch Niji to know it. Which I understand why you wouldnt.

>>77804596
>To be honest if you believe the clique/bullying allegations you're more or less dragging half the vtuber industry with Niji. If Elira is implicated then so is Pomu. If Millie is implicated then so is Nina.
This is the one thing I can't understand.
The one thread that I doubt we'll ever actually get a real answer on.
Did Pomu and Nina really bury their heads in the sand and not know about everything going on with Selen? Did Selen just bury everything herself and refuse to open up to anybody else about how she was feeling?
And what the fuck went through everyone's minds when Sayu got terminated? How did it affect their response to Selen getting the same treatment?
Realistically, they can't ever really talk about it publicly without reigniting the drama again.

>>77804596
>Doing fine
>Spend 15 minutes trying to pressure her into doing a sexy voice despite being very uncomfortable with it.
>Twist the knife and remind her she didn't get the sanrio collab
>Dogpiled her in the party game

>>77804813
ugh, that's what happened in that collab? Did they seriously bring up sanrio? Do you have a timestamp? I can't imagine them being THAT heartless, but thenagain that black stream happened...
I couldn't make it longer than a few minutes with how clearly uncomfortable Selen was with the whole thing. She usually clams up in large collabs, but that was just awful and every time I tell myself I should watch it I close it within 5 minutes.

>>77804813
If "do the sexy voice" is killing-yourself-level bullying in your head I dont know what you think about the rest of the vtuber scene.
>"they shouldnt have done it if Selen didnt like it"
>"thats a shitty thing to say regardless"
True actually.

>>77804895
>I can't imagine them being THAT heartless
I can absolutely see Millle doing it.

>>77804735
Pomu was on the way out since last summer. She was finished playing mediator and you could tell as things got insane in the following months.
Nina has woman brain damage. She wouldn't go bat for Selen against half the company incl her entire gen.

Selen did talk to them which was a thing brought up in her, the official notices, and talent statements. It was reminescent of the telephone game they played with the hit on Sayu.
We'll never know unless one of the now many livers tosses their football.

>>77804895
Even Hitler wasn't as cruel as https://youtu.be/cjNiFKV81vE?t=2401

>>77804982
Never said that. It's just part of her getting targeted when she often went on about how she was uncomfortable with that kind of cutesy stuff. Certainly not getting peer pressured into it.

>>77805091
>Even Hitler wasn't as cruel as https://youtu.be/cjNiFKV81vE?t=2401
Fucking hell.
I'm pretty sure any dragoon knows how much she loves Sanrio.
Fuck, man. I hate that place so much.

>>77752503
A bit unrelated but does anyone know similar degrading hentai like this image?

>>77805091
>"never had I ever had a sanrio merch collab lmaoo"
>"NOOO this is literally worse than hitler!!!"
You people treat Selen like she's a literal retarded child you cant upset or else she'll bang her head against the wall.

>>77804596
To be entirely fair to Zaion, the best situation is for the fans to fuck off after the streams are done and there's nothing left to talk about. Festering into a cesspool of mentall illness like shondo's general or the many others like it that just ritualpost, spam reposts, spam pornposts, spam ai pornposts, and generally just be painfully autistic for 18 hours a day is pretty painful to see.

>>77805528
ESL...

>>77805510
It's got tags. You could probably find others from booru tag groups. That's preferable since its tagging is more comprehensive.

>>77805569
All my arguments are now invalid forever

>>77805528
Anon, have you ever dealt with a human being in your life? Do you have so little experience with other people that you can't tell the difference between banter and actual harassment?
This was absolutely a low blow against Selen, and there were many in that stream, and outside of it with garbage like Millie's "WAIT WHAT HAPPENED" bullshit.
I can't believe she put up with that stream for two hours, what the fuck.

>>77805675
You'll get to hyperbole eventually if you keep at it.

>>77805675
Yes

>>77805675
>https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1754946895951077887
Yes.

>>77805679
>"management didnt let you get the merch collab you wanted" is a low blow Actual Harassment personal attack against Selen
Again you people treat Selen like she's a drooling retard that's going to cry if you say anything bad.
She's a normal regular 30 year old woman with a job and hobbies that gets paid to hang out with people she didn't particularly like and viceversa. Nothing in that stream is neither bad nor out of the norm for vtuber streams, much less the sanrio line.

>>77805919
You'll get to hyperbole eventually if you keep at it.

>>77805919
>She's a normal regular 30 year old woman
God, I wish

>>77805953
>i was just pretending to be retarded I dont actually believe Selen was bullied
good to know

>>77805636
Huh. Never thought about that. Thanks.

>>77806015
It's still a pattern of over 2 years of harassment against her even if it's cartoon villain tier.

>>77805919
Yeah, sister, you tell 'em! She shouldn't have just killed herself over one video! It was clearly just her overreacting and not a buildup of events over several years!

>>77806078
>doesnt read any other post
>shitposts the same thing i said
I respect this style of board clogging shitposting a lot.

>>77801454
Yes, she definitely did. And while I find it suspicious as fuck, I still give her the benefit of the doubt because the association with Dtto takes priority over that. >>77797499 said it well. I expect bad things from Nijis by default, and none of their retarded behaviour shocks me anymore, but this would be an extremely stupid move from a 3rd party who's close friends with the victim in question. So I have no reason to doubt dtto yet. It's not playground politics, this whole suicide shit is absolutely worth cutting people off over.

>>77806138
This is an english speaking board and you haven't reached the requisite proficiency to participate if you don't even get sarcasm. Nor the 2 years of harassment against her

>>77805679
That stream is why I'll keep the door half-open for Elira, if she ever has the decency to apologize.

>>77806221
>>Were all the shitty twitter snips actually about Selen? Ex. OP and Enna's "Greatest year of my life"
>Probably. I think people just thought she was fucking around.
>No one would actually throw that much of a fit over an MV delayed a day and a half, but for Selen it was the last straw. It wasnt really about the video for her.
I'm telling you I already said the same thing youre pretending to not understand you shitposting mongoloid.

>>77769852
What the fuck, I've not seen this image before
God damn that's scummy.
What a petty bunch of cunts in that branch

>>77806837
It was leaked back in December in /HAHA/. At that time most people believed it was a fake, but as far as we know now it's more likely legit than not.

>>77807010
The pfp accessory got confirmed way later.

>>77807389
Yes, that was pretty much the smoking gun. The moment Mr. Man posted a screen of a convo with Doki having the same accessory it was clear that the leak was real.
It also completely shatters the cope of most organs being innocent in the whole ordeal.

>>77807595
Especially with Vox talking about how they all "tried to talk to Selen," which clearly referred to them telling her to just graduate already as she "brought nothing good to the branch."

>>77804596
> I dont think she was 'bullied' per se
come the fuck on

>>77807631
Really makes you wonder why he seemed to be scared shitless about the idea of Selen having a recording of him he didn't knew about, even if it turned out to be a nothingburger...

>>77807731
With how much Vox gets off to the sound of his own voice lord only knows how many hot mic disasters he would have in his closet.

>>77807731
Imagine if he actually told her to kill herself. No wonder he ran off and hid.

>>77808487
>Objection your honor! I was using the terminology of my youthful people and helpfully requesting that she kiss her sister in Nijisanji vtuber lore as a way to calm down. My twelve humble co-dependents can corroborate the effectiveness of her sister's kisses!

>break the rules
>get punished
>*surprised Pikachu face*
Selen is a stupid bipolar schizo that doesn't belong in professional environment. I'm glad she's a failure now lol

>>77809549
luca and finana broke rules too
whore

>>77809549
Go watch your oshi instead of being a retard

>>77809549
But enough about Hex

>>77809549
tick-tock sister...

>>77809549
You said that to Elira's 2 month suspension and halved numbers too, right?

>>77809549
where is luca's punishment?

>>77808487
Lmao given that he's already told her that on that fall guys stream when she was collabing with him and ike multiple times and everyone just thought those were banter is incredible, you can even hear selen just trying to laugh to distract and change the subject but he kept repeating it multiple times
even rpr whose banter with selen could be called extreme never told her that he'll come over to her place and stab her with a knife so plainly like that, but vox did

>>77790296
obsydia - petra
noctyx - probably alban
iluna - ren
xsoleil - kotoka
krisis - ??
ttt - claude
denauth - ??

>>77809716
The difference is they didn’t make a fuss about it when they got a week suspensen. Finana got warned about the discord fangroup and got a couple days off, she was told to interact more with the group and she did. Meanwhile Selen got repeated warnings and instead of backing down she kept trying the shame shit expecting management to give her what she wanted like a little kid throwing a tantrum.

>77811047
Nyfco lost and /NijiEN/ doxxed a child.

>>77792487
as far as we can tell, luca is a "leader" in the sense that he has a direct line to upper niji management. but that doesn't preclude anyone else in luxiem to have similar connections to other people in upper niji management. my rrat is shu is also well-connected (through the hanamori clique connection), and vox eventually became well-connected as well, bc he became luxiem's biggest earner.

>>77811129
And what does any of that have to do with the talents? you braindead idiot

>>77811129
qrd?

>>77811341
Twisty made Sonny feel uncomfy so sisters went out if their way to dox her. They found a 14 year old girl who used to be active on the group vr world that kinda sounded like twisty, and believing to be her they doxxed the kid…

>>77773145
Did you forget how she was puking after seeing Dokibird in chillaslop?

>>77808487
Personally i don't believe that Vox would do that. Enna though? 100%.

>>77809549
Rent. Free.

>>77811445
Sisters said they doxxed her BECAUSE they thought she wasn't Twisty

>>77799717
>still at a mil
heh

>>77802044
giwtwm

>>77812175
and you believe that?

>>77814110
Either way it sounds bad anon. They either doxxed Twisty, or doxxed a minor. Then justified doxxing the minor was ok because it wasn't their target.

>>77752023

>>77769852
This cap makes me want this black company to burn even more so than I did before. With Elira and her friends trapped inside.

>>77799404
>Unironically what would it take for NijiEN to -at the very least- recover?
Massive, and I mean MASSIVE investment in non-clique, low-numbers members. Up and including opening overseas 3D facilities. Right now people are waking up to the fact that (you)r oshi isn't worth feeling any gratefulness towards Anykara over (this is really fucking hard to do) which kills resistance to bullshit and viewer retention.

>>77766720
>Is the clique real?
Always has been

>>77773145
At best, it looks like Doki didn’t consider her personally culpable, considering Elira didn’t out her as being one of the people named in the document.

>>77809549
>Dokibird is a Failure
Eh?
While it would have been awesome if she could've remained a consistent 5view, her current baseline 2-5k ccv easily makes her one of the biggest Indies. Financially, she seems to be doing even better than she was as Selen.

>>77752023
>Nijifags defend this

DIGUSTING, chinks and mongoloids are the bulk of this fanbase btw

>>77804596
I pretty much agree with this. Selen tried to find common ground with Enna and Petra being chinese, but Enna doesn't like Selen, and Petra is also much closer to Elira and the JP team.

At the end of the day, Selen and the rest of NijiEN don't have much viewer crossover. I want NijEN management to suffer, but I doubt any of this will matter after a year or two.

>>77804596
It wasn't MGS collab retard. Zero chance.
Most likely is Niji no Conquistador.

>>77769852
It's really uplifting seeing how much better Doki is doing now, especially compared to all these whores who bullied her.

I would believe all the miscommunication accusations pointing toward management being incompetent, but then we get into things that are just Malicious that I don't understand

>Demanding Selen pay out of pocket for all projects while taking a cut for them anyway
>Taking all gifts and never delivering to livers, even youtube play buttons
>Management taking a cut off of Mika's earnings for 'taxes' and then pocketing the money/disappearing it without telling her

For what purpose? It's not like they 'accidentally' took a cut off the top of Mika's earnings and forgot to tell her it wasn't for her taxes. That's somebody making a conscious decision to attempt to ruin someone's life that Nijisanji never investigated.

>>77828769
The razer, and hyte collabs are just infuriating to me.
The sanrio collab is suspect since I can imagine idiots in staff trying to collab "wave 1" rather than going with the people who were popular/actually gave a shit about sanrio, but razer and hyte were clearly tailored to Selen and her audience.

>>77804596
Not bullying btw... proceeds to list every form of bullying and harrassment under the sun... retard

>>77804596
>They touched on this on the mintara podcast.
anyone got a timestamp for this?

>>77809549
>She's a failure now
She's bigger than ever before now, retard
Seethe more sis