/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What'd nijisanji do now?

Fleshstreamers deserve death

>holos stream on VCR for weeks
:)
>mouse plays on streamer server for 3 days
:(

>>77748121
Were you in a coma for VCR? Plenty of people were shitting on it.

Ironmouse's official youtube channel by the way

>>77747816
The Trash Taste and Hasan Piker crowd
>>77748121
What's with the delusion Ironmouse is more unicorn friendly than male collabing Holos?

>>77747816
unironically, there is nothing wrong with trying to convert fresh blood to the scene. is some xqc tard finding vtubers through mouse really *that* much worse than them finding it via some other way. vshojo even has a couple basically flesh streamers in it like kson for people to watch who may be just getting started with chuubas

>>77748328
hang yourself ape

>>77748384
ok anon, have fun watching your subculture warp in on itself and become even more stale and boring

>>77747816
>Is she a grifter who uses the vtubing community to leech into the normie sphere?
Obviously. She was a nobody until she leeched off of Connor and since then has been chasing bigger e-celebs like a starved rat.
I hope Veibae uses her connections to just blacklist this cunt from the inner twitch illuminati

>>77748328
>is some xqc tard finding vtubers through mouse really *that* much worse than them finding it via some other way
xqc tards are barely even considered sentient, I don’t want them anywhere near vtubers.

>>77748328
Here's xQc's reaction to Ironmouse winning creator of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasE4VbRZd4
When he says "link it" he means the Nora Cat face reveal.
Keep in mind they played AmongUs together like a month prior to this.
Make of this what you will.

>>77747816
>Her audience is full of normie who does not even watch vtubers.
That's the point, anon. How are you supposed to grow if people don't know you exist yet?
Do you expect them all to pass around the exact same audience or something?

>>77748497
every large streamer is going to be retarded anon, that’s how going mainstream works. if you aren’t lowest common denominator, you aren’t going to pull top 100-250 numbers on twitch

>>77747816
maybe you forgot but Copperrat's went from 3views to 4-5views because of Trashtaste and Connor. She inherited their ironic weeb audience.

>>77748619
it’s hardly xqc’s fault that vtubing is basically a giant joke in the eyes of the wider culture kek

>>77748737
Whose fault is it?

>>77748780
50% vtuber fans being genuinely crazy 50% normies laughing at anything outside their Overton window

>>77747816
That's because the Rust event gave viewers special in game drops for watching certain streamers for an hour or two. So after watching xQc and unlocking his special item they'd switch to Mouse, then Esfand, etc. The Twitch algorithm sees 5k people were watching xQc and now they're watching Mouse and thinks their content is similar because of it.

>>77748727
And now she has Hasan's audience hmmmmmm

>>77748641
Definitely feels like something JP corpo fans want: VTubers that exist in a bubble and have fans materialize out of thin air. Thankfully even the JP corpos themselves know that it's a dumb approach

>>77748727
>weeb
Being a weeb is just a phase just like girls have 'bi" phase. Normal ppl eventually grow out of it.

>>77748931
This is even worse than botting, wtf

>>77748931
I remember when VShojofags said that her numbers are genuine and that there aren't any people who keep the stream open with the tab muted.

>DN praises Vshojo once
>weeks of catalog meltdowns
Pure coincidence

>>77747816
Nothing. As long as she knows that, that's fine. She's her own person and can do what she wants.
But she legitimately thinks she's the empress of vtubing and the savior of the little guy while doing everything possible to actively harm the scene.

>>77749005
Yes, rewarding people for watching something is worse than faking numbers. Dumbass

>>77748991
>Being a weeb is just a phase
Fuck off normalfag, you were never a weeb. Watching Naruto and Attack on Titan doesn't make you a weeb.

>>77749035
>But she legitimately thinks she's the empress of vtubing and the savior of the little guy

>>77749030
>DN
I thought SEA was the enemy, since when do they like VShojo?

>>77748305
>unicorn friendly
Unicorns need to be rendered extinct. Sooner the better.

>>77748328
Fuck off, we're full

>>77749174
There’s nothing wrong with unicorns as long as they stick to their unicorn friendly chuuba’s and stay in their lane

>>77748987
Yeah. Even holofans who love to brag about them being the biggest... If they don't attract NEW fans, it's all going to dry up eventually. Look at Kizuna Ai. 2.9 million subs and no growth for years leading to her channel eventually dying and her retirement. They HAVE to keep bringing in fresh eyes or else they'll wither and die.

>>77749219
if by full you mean “our scene is slowly choking itself to death and selling out at the same time”, then sure.

>>77749030
>>77749171
>DN praises VShojo
That was some seriously backhanded praising, just like he's done numerous times. The faggot cannot be nice to anything that isn't his Hololive bubble. Everything else is him attempting to rationalize their existence.

Y'know like faggots do on /vt/.

>>77748305
Show me one single person who has claimed Ironmouse is more unicorn friendly than Mori or Bae.

>>77749280
I mean, that's kind of overly simplistically looking at what went down with Kizuna Ai, but sure.

>>77749317
DN is literally just the only /#/fag who can afford a mic
no idea why he has an audience

>>77749280
Kizuna Ai's fall is more complicated than that.
Ignoring the company fuck up, she struggled to keep up with the changing landscape from short skits and edited gameplay videos to livestreaming.

>>77749005
this is gonna age poorly when watching holo streams gives rewards in holoearth

>>77749171
correct they will forever be the enemy DN trying to leech vsj after pippa and tenma told him to fuck off is beyond pathetic

>>77749322
It's the same "people" calling the dragoons cucks and how doki is going to break their heart with malecollabs.
when the most flirty she ever gets is with girls like mint

>>77749497
There is no system on YouTube similar to the drop system on Twitch. How are they gonna do that?

>>77749445
Once again proving containment breakers need to be roped.

>>77749108
I spent my high school years watching anime. So yes, I considered myself a weeb. But honestly? Life changed and I eventually grew out of Japanese related content.

>>77749445
same way khyo and false got popular by doxxing people and pandering to dramafaggots

>>77749606
Fair enough, anon, I salute you.

>>77749629
I will bite bait and mass reply as much as I want faggot im stuck at work and no customers and bored outta my mind

>>77749576
i don't know but i guarantee it's gonna happen somehow

>>77749823
I will guarantee that VShojo is gonna close in 2 weeks.

delicious ashamed successfully tax letter hammer scarf dog bring miss

>>77749823
I mean drop already existed on youtube
https://www.hollyland.com/blog/tips/check-drops-on-youtube

>>77749063
Imagine needing a reward to watch your oshi

>>77747816
You cant gatekeep a hobby forever. no matter how much you kick and scream vtubing will go mainstream and with it will be changed by mainstream american culture, i hope you enjoy whores and identity politics

>>77750029
That's the thing, they weren't even watching, most had the tab muted.

big fan of faking an illness can still get you free money and nobody questions it because of the legion of simps attacking everyone claiming to be "good people"

>>77749902
well you see, that's retarded and not going to happen. while i made a reasonable prediction about how a corporation will cross pollinate their products, something corporations do all the time.

>>77750087
>mainstream american culture
I dunno how to break this to you, but Japan has already been doing what you're describing for years. Holodrones just choose to ignore it so they can shit on "le evil western whores".

>>77750109
>/#/fags make up elaborate conspiracies about how all twitch numbers are actually fake from le embed muted tabs, unlike youtube's numbers which are fortified™ by the super advanced pajeetgorithm
>one schizophrenic nijitard manages to bot YT streams up to like 50k
>/#/fags don't see the irony in this

>>77750109
you're mixing up twitch with youtube

>>77747816
>Her audience is full of normie who does not even watch vtubers
they see her and she is a vtuber.
nigga you don't even know how to write

>>77750491
Nobody is denying the blatant botting that happens on YouTube, anon.

dont disrespect one of the oldest vtubers in the hobby. I dont care about your opinions if you do that.
I hate vshitshow like the next guy, but Ironmouse was vutbing for longer than you were watching them.
And I wanna add that you should not forget that Elira Pendora of Nijisanji EN bullied a coworker so much over a long period of time that said coworker attempted suicide. Neither Elira nor Nijisanji apologized to that coworker but instead chose to bully her more while she was recovering from her attempt and even as she passed on to do her own stuff. Up to this day, this suicide attempt and the corporate bullying has been treated very lackluster by Nijisanji as a company and not serious at all. Elira really is a useless and dangerous addition to vtubing and we should at all costs exclude people like Elira from the hobby because she brings suffering to everyone that doesnt dance to her tune.

>>77748727
She was a 4view before she even met an eceleb. Since april 2020 in fact.
Source- I actually looked it up instead of talking shit and being a clueless retard.

>>77750572
What is this supposed to prove?

>>77750630
Some sure as shit try.

>>77750692
youtube viewers are all asleep

>>77747816
OP is retarded

>>77750745
Ok

>>77750572
Its an audio stream for sleeping, why would you have the tab mutee?

>>77749024
I can see why this would be stupid with some streamers, but Mouse swaps activities multiple times because she streams 13 hours a day. She'll start with a yap and then move into a game, if it's not a game I'm interested in I'll mute the tab and check back every half hour or so until she's swapped into something I'm interested in. You don't get notifications when a streamer switch games so it's stupid to open a new Twitch tab every single time you want to check. I don't give a fuck about numbers or who's better, all I care about is if the streamer I like is making enough for how they want to live.

>>77750988
what is with you guy's obsession with sound

>>77750988
He's implying that people are sleeping with the stream open. On a stream that is specially designed to do that.
Not sure why they deny that the drop system inflates the viewcount and a lot of people watch it with the tab muted.

>>77751352
>>77751124

>>77751488
I'm not, VShojofags got mad because Ironmouse is not counted in the numberfag thread. They tried to shitpost with the inflated viewcounts from the drop system.

>>77751587
i can assure you that no vshojofags are mad because the monkeys didn't count mouse. however i can say it is very funny to exclude her because she was a part of a popular event while circlejerking over botted holos and sleeping streams. keep on monkeying on.

>>77751696
everyone knows HoloLive sometimes gets botted anon, no one unironically thinks biboo wakes up and gets 25k ccv organically sometimes

>>77751790
>sometimes
every day you mean

>>77751587
we don't want to be in number threads because they're fucking stupid, every time someone tries to number in /vsj+/ even positively they're told to piss off

>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO CONSUME YOUR PRODUCT!
>haha funny robot lady bought a gecko

>>77751696
>i can assure you that no vshojofags are mad
>i can assure you no Vshojofags are leaving their generals, it's all falseflaggers
This No true Scotsman shit is getting old.

>>77751830
I guess you would know that, since you probably visit the numbers thread everyday.

>>77751934
if you want to defend yourself to make your hobby not look completely retarded and embarrassing you may want to try a different approach.

>>77751934
In my time browsing numberfags general only time there was actual raids was during NijiENs prime in 2022. Anything in that general now just oozes a bored motherfucker kicking the nest out of boredom to try rile you farms.

>>77751994
i accept your concession

>>77752039
How would you know they get botted every day?
I wouldn't know that because I don't visit that shitty thread.

>incentivize rustfags to watch a stream
:(
>incentivize pedos to visit an aquarium
:)

>>77747816
She, uh, watches videos funnily

>>77752211
>watch a stream
kek, he thinks they are watching the stream.

>>77752260
yea and gura's fans didn't even fuck the penguins when they went to the aquarium. cry about it.

>>77748328
>newfags good
lol
no

>>77752300
Why is it so hard to admit that the Rust streams are inflated with people who watch with the tabs muted because the drop system is retarded.
It's not like I'm accusing Ironmouse of anything, this is literally Twitch being retarded.

>marketing: bad
>marketing, Japan: good

>>77752432
why is it so hard to admit that you aren't actually a numerfag, you're just a whiney monkey. imagine crying about big numbers. should change the thread form /#/ to /faggots/.

>>77751934
Are you illiterate anon? He said no vshojofag wants the approval of /#/ because it's a den of retarded tribalistic numbermonkeys. But even so that thread is unironically quite obsessed with her and vshojo as my searches in the archives revealed. They are literally unable to ignore IRySschizo's falseflagging bait despite it being so fucking obvious.

>>77752599
ok anon just so we’re clear I know its bait from the same guy in /#/ that was seething about mouse doing half decent numbers on rust and I choose to bite i everytime because I want to pick fights while im stuck at work

>>77752599
It's fascinating to me that /#/ has "favorites" and gets pissy if they're not at the absolute top in every category. You'd think they'd be more mercenary and just stick to whoever is the most popular in that moment

>>77752599
Who were the people who were defending Ironmouse's viewcount in the catalog baits?

>>77752432
Please find me someone in /vsj+/ who said that Rust numbers aren't inflated (I say /vsj+/ because the falseflagging over Mouse numbers is terrible, just look at the amount of bait threads). I'm happy to wait but to save you time you won't find any because we fucking know they are and are perfectly willing to say so without hesitation. Of course Mouse can't pull 30k outside of a special event like a concert or anniversary event, we're not delusional.

>>77749445
Guess who watches this dude

>>77752803
it's not actually a numbers thread, it's a colony for the people who came here because of parrot, DN and bvtm

>>77752856
It's fine if you agree, most of the people here don't, and they call me a numberfag for some reason.

>>77752803
honestly Its fine let them have it since its really just a huge containment thread for them its no secret that numbermonkeys are all holos. Why would you want more recognition from the worst people on /vt/

>>77752977
Are you a VShojofag or a falseflagger. Just so I know the next time someone tells me VShojofags don't leave their generals.

>>77752832
me all me i want problems not solutions

>>77747981
the Q4 report is out in 3 days. people are ramping up bait thread production to get people to forget.

>>77753040
neither i told you im mostly a ligger but I watch who the fuck I want

>>77752309
no, YOU’RE the retard. grow or die. stagnation will mean the slow death of even the strongest vtubing corpo’s as existing fans churn out

>>77752803
that actually is how /#/ started out, it was more corpo agnostic and they got excited over any popular streams, even niji ones. then it slowly turned into a second hololive general and everyone started speaking worse english. now it's grunting cavemen whining about heckin tabs being muterinod meanwhile giving a pass to choco and noel concerts with no debate at all. actual numberfags have gone extinct.

>>77753123
>i told you
Anon, there's like 3 of you replying to me, I can't keep track.

>>77753040
im not a vshojofag but that kurofag on that last bait thread definitely was lol and I could tell she was a former nijisister by the way she responds emotions first logic never

>>77753179
>giving a pass to choco and noel concerts
What's the story there?

>>77753242
they are bad singers so people mute their streams

>>77753273
And you actually believe this?

>>77753296
believe it? i have actually lived it.

What Ironkeks like by the way

>>77753187
well not my job to tell you who I am right? fuckin figure it out then jr. Dude honestly the bait is getting stale these days seen all these baits and same arguements on repeat for fucking weeks now you faggots even use the same images and canned reaponses. we need a new selen tier incident to happen that shit was fun

>>77753076
I'm sure Vshojo's will be a disaster tho- wait they're privately owned...

>>77753349
see? the exact same bait and picture used 3rd time in a row it kinda loses impact now if you dont switch it up brother. Can people bot post on /vt/? this feels like a bot

>>77753377
You want to treat you as an individual, but you pile me up with everyone else, I didn't post any images. Not very nice anon.

>>77747816
They all got the door open to them into the vtuber mecca. le walled garden soiled

>>77753486
we need flags in this place seriously so I can be racist alot more

>>77753605
I'm just a dirty eastern europoor. I'm used to it.

>>77753489
another recycled image that was used since last week
someone pull out the sea dataplan with henya seething gif then the mouse with hasan thumbnail
seriously both sides suck and lack any variety just spamming the same boring shitcanned responses everyday shame shame
Im starting to miss the chinese

Still no answer as to why Ironkek's views are multiplied everytime the cuckmaster is present though

>>77753754
here's a fresh one I made just now. an accurate view of what mouse's streams are actually like because it's just her fucking vod channel. spergs always go for the specific clips and edits and claim that's what she is instead of posting screenshots of actual stats of what she plays because proof of her being 90% yap and gaming with fellow vtubers doesn't support their narrative

>>77754070
I know they are playing the algorithm, but why would they put Hasan in the title. Why would you associate yourself with that retard?

>>77754070
No... the "1 month ago kek she totally ignores hasan and botcinderella now" narrative...

>>77754070
anon you dumbfuck nobody that shitposts catalog all day and spams bait threads on cooldown will be bothered to watch 6-12 hour vods on a vtuber they hate because she mogs his oshi at /#/ during that rust collab lol

>>77747816
shes not even a really a vtuber to these people, shes like the wheelchair character they roll out to feel good about themselves

>>77754334
>token disabled character

>>77754334
she’s a token vtuber. that’s the word you’re looking for.

>>77754190
video is about rust not the Bolshevik revolution.

>>77754601
You guys really don't care about gatekeeping, do you?

>>77754655
why the fuck do we need to gatekeep anime girls spamming twitch memes in maid outfits

>>77754549
its more like she has an excuse to be a vtuber because shes supposedly dying or whatever

>>77753170
nah I don't care
fuck them kids

>>77754655
we got hololive for that. Being different is good. everyone win

>>77747816
The vtubing community got subsumed into /cgl/.
With that comes the overdramatic retards that doompost like crazy.
And Twitter mutts that think they're important.
Where have you been?

>>77754190
it's not playing the algorithm, it's accurately describing who she's collabing in the video which in the first part is primarily QT and hasan because they mouse and connor were made leaders of that team. the second video was primarily with saiiren and connor because the first two went to bed. it was split into two due to video length limits
I'm not commenting on hasan because it's subjective opinion and this isn't /pol/
>>77754237
her vod channel is two weeks behind stream date, and no she doesn't ignore them. qt and hasan have always been kind to her, she's very much friends with qt and she's planning on taking mouse to disneyland in the future
>>77754255
meh, if any anon in the future wants to refute their stupid shit with practically no effort just screenshot the top of her vod channel and walk away

>>77748497
anon there are people here RIGHT NOW who found vtubers through a gacha banner

>>77754776
I don't think you want Hasan viewers in your chat, anon.

>>77754836
heaven forbid 90 iq people discover our glorified porn

>>77754190
to attract viewers. like it or not he has a huge platform.

>>77754836
Vtuber viewers have more in common with gacha players than retarded zoomers from xQc's chat who think every vtuber is a man.

>>77755009
they’re all retards anon…

>>77754999
Have some standards, Jesus...

>>77755105
idc about xqctards but I do draw the line at uber /pol/ shit like hasan, whether it be lefty pol or right

>>77755081
Xqc viewers are single celled organisms, just about anyone would be better

>hololive numbers: good, cool
>vshojo numbers: bad, not real

>77756084
>Anyone else would be better.
I mean, Redshell and forsen are okay.

>>77756350
There are problems in both Twitch and YouTube viewcounts anon. That's why they can't be compared.

>>77756502
youtube's are literally fake though

>>77756701
As I said, both have problems.

>>77748328
The retarded, emote spamming twitch kiddies aren't the problem. It's the manic troons who create the most 'no fun allowed' settings on the internet. Vshojo is crawling with those types, they will kill what you enjoy and you will clap for it.

>>77756502
Not one for one no, but the idea that Twitch numbers are all fake and it's entirely muted tabs for drops/channel points/whatever and nobody actually watches Twitch streamers is a conspiracy theory so preposterous it'd make Art Bell blush.

>>77756789
one is literally fake. the other doesn't exclude the hearing impaired. not really a comparison.

>>77756836
I didn't say it's all fake, it's inflated by people who don't even watch the stream.

>>77756799
everyone knows that those people don't watch streams anon.

>>77756927
you are aware that 99% of streams don't have drops, right?

>>77756927
I think those !dropsenabled streams are probably significantly inflated, especially for a big event like this. Normal streams? Not so much.

>>77757008
Yes, anon, I'm talking about the Rust drop streams only.

>>77757112
why exactly do you think those don't count?

>>77757146
I'm talking in circles now. You should already know, as I heard, the VShojo general admits that those streams are inflated.

>>77757385
so were hololive events when everyone turned off their streams so you had nothing to watch except a debut. did you count those?

>>77757483
Anon, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

>>77757529
i'm talking about a strategy hololive used to inflate their numbers for like 5 years.

>>77757580
You're comparing completely different things.

>>77757632
>inflated twitch numbers
:(
>inflated hololive numbers
:)

>>77757681
Rust drop streams are inflated because people join them for the drop only. They don't watch the stream and mute the tab until they get a drop.
That's all there is to it.

>>77757761
why does that matter though

>>77757805
It doesn't. I'm just saying they are inflated.

>>77757761
that's W for twitch and an L for YT

NumberVermin

>>77757858
then why bring it up

>>77757898
People here were denying it was real.
Did you even read this thread?

>>77757483
I donno if this is fair, it's not like Vshojo vtubers can't do the same thing. Did anyone stream over Henya's recent 3D showcase?
A better point would just be that there's way more streamers on Twitch in general, it's hard to do 10x your usual numbers when there's so many other channels for your audience to watch.

>>77757948
i would argue whatever you do to get people to click on a stream is fair game. the selective complaining is indicative of "numberfags" putting tribalism ahead of numbers.

>>77751696
I can assure you that Vshitshow cucks are delusional as fuck since they believe their botted, lying whore has ever been relevant.

>>77759011
can you type that without crying

>>77758223
this type of thinking can lead to really Ponzi-like viral growth games that are net negative for the space

>>77760188
which doesn't matter to literally anyone except schizos engaging in digital horse races.

>>77760288
If you want to start literally paying people to watch your streams fine, just don’t bitch and complain when the bottom falls out one day and it all blows up in one spectacular explosion

>>77760288
Advertisers care about numbers anon. They are the one paying the bills for Twitch.
Having numbers that don't reflect the number of people who actually watch their ads is not something that they would want to pay for.
That's why the whole embed thing got fixed in the first place.

>>77759011
>FILLIAN YOU HARLOT

>>77760537
I'm fairly sure both Twitch and Youtube pay per ad viewed, not the CCV displayed below the stream.

>>77760614
filian only has one L in it. I know it’s confusing, since her emotes like “FillyLove” have two L’s.

How do numberfags cope with the fact that I watch most streams without video in podcast form?

>>77747816
I'm not going to say you're wrong, but I'm also going to assume this is just a bait thread to deflect from Nijisanji's imminent reckoning

>>77747816
>What did Ironmouse bring to the vtubing community
Nothing, western "vtubing" doesn't really matter.

>>77747816
shes dying anon

>>77754864
You're retarded if you don't think they're already there. Despite what you tards want to think, most streamer viewers aren't exclusive to only one streamer.

>>77747981
their best

>>77747981
fpbp
kys OP

>>77748497
>xqc tards are barely even considered sentient
As opposed to the average poster /here/? Lol, lmao even

>>77755009
Anon there are retards here RIGHT NOW who unironically think Mori and Towa are men.

>>77752977
I don’t know why anons talk like this. It comes off as nothing else but sour grapes, especially when you can’t even speak properly. People rag on others here hard for not using proper punctuation or grammar, but having it is better than not since, without it, whatever point you’re trying to make sounds much less dignified compared to what you probably thought you’d look like in your head.

>>77747816
>>77748328
I will take a bunch of normies any day over the "hee hee, le based, le based. Watching anime/v-tuber? You pedo! I said nigger am I cool yet? You made me mad so I'm getting my personal grifter to dox your oshi!" type of people that flocked over with the Off Kai drama.

>>77752309
god we should never do anything never pick up any new hobbies because we'll be newfags. no new vtubers should debut because theyll be newfags. shut everything down and kill yourself... oh wait youll be a newfag at commiting suicide compared to people who did it thousands of years ago what now???

>>77768558
i am pretty sour that /#/ is allowed to exist

>>77770093
its a containment thread for vshocucks, the board is much better with them not shitting up the 'log 24/7

>>77770714
they literally refuse to count vshojo numbers there

>>77770826
proof? i dont go to the anti den, apparently you do though vshocuck

>>77771006
not sure how one proves a negative. they only talk about youtube numbers there, and by youtube i mean hololive. i guess you can open the past few threads and look for any twitch numbers at all.
>>77765385
zero twitch numbers
>>77758163
zero
>>77751255
zilch
>>77745309
none here either

>>77771423
you said they refused, so what did you base this on? you would have evidence of this unless you're just pretending vshocucks dont live in that board 24/7
ah, its almost as if you have an alternate agenda to deflect...G R I M

>>77771552
wow he was a monkey this whole time. what a surprise. i did not see that coming.

>>77748036
so mean

>>77748036
Not really just don't use an avatar if your still going to show your ugly mug. Kills the point of vtubing.

>>77747816
Ironmouse is the top vtuber and no amount of seething and doxxing is going to change that fact, holomonkey.

>>77776573
>Holo
Rent free

>>77777073
Every single anti vshojo theead is made by tribal holomonkeys
Go ahead and call me a "sister" now

>>77777266
you need to try way harder sister

>>77777073
>>77777512
denying it and then immediately using holofag's favorite word lol

Yeah Ironmouse are there for her and not for connor, totally

>>77775716
this, do either one of the other

>>77748469
ah yes, the new and invigorating people that watch big twitch streamers will surely change that

>3k
oh no no no, sykkuno sisters I thought you said he wasn't just trying to leech off Gura because his numbers were good, what happened???

>>77747816
I wonder if one day the vshojofags will learn to ignore the bait.

>>77779554
>>77777266
>>77776573
Pathetic, the only thing you proved is that OP was right.

>>77786527
OP is wrong. see >>77748121

>>77768102
Anon...

>>77747816
>watching XQC
Id rather kill myself.

>>77770826
Correction: They refuse to count Twitch numbers.

>>77750087
>it will be changed by mainstream american culture
considering america is maybe two years away from ripping itself to pieces via civil war over its culture war nonsense I very much doubt that.

>>77750380
Please name some relevant japanese streamers who do political activism or whose entire personality is their tumblrgender.

>>77748469
>stale and boring
You mean consistent and kino, right? Outside influences should be kept away from my hobby

>>77795186
seek help, normal people don't act like this

>>77796402
You're the one claiming that this is all mainstream culture in Japan. Why can't you prove it?

>>77796612
holy shit you destroyed that retard and made him kill himself since he couldn't refute you kek

Vkeks supposedly don't go out of their general but everytime someone posts a threat mildly criticizing them there's an army of vkeks ready to defend their queen and their cuckmaster, no matter what time of the day it is