/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

I love Fauna

>>77713212
Oh hey he did reach 10K kek, its still terrible numbers but hey i didnt think he could do it

>>77713643

Green woman seethe will never not be great.

>CGDCT
vs
>eceleb homocollabers

>>77713747

So in the end he was less than 1k viewers from being a 4 view debut stream? What were the predictions, above or below that?
That whole fucking branch is dead in the water lmao

holy shit
how many times are they going tweet about these fags

>>77713643
Recent clip numbers
>>77657903
>>77657934
>>77657962

>very good showing agent F, more Phase collab for you

Married women are the virgins of vtubing.

>>77713781
>filename
Be less obvious okbhfag

FST is over, how is this thread still sucking off Fauna? Fuck off saplings

>>77713789
They havent pinned to CTW 2 announcement yet have they

>>77713747
Right thread king

What did we learn last thread?

>Standardized merch
yep, it's over

>>77713823
OKBH loves homos, retard

Reminder that the guy spamming Pekora X Jurard pics is a Sapling who's always banned from /jp/ for his bullshit

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>39,580: Miko (Hololive)
>36,376: Hololive English (Hololive)
>34,576: Riri (Nijisanji)
>27,989: Suisei (Hololive)
>27,914: Botan (Hololive)
>27,197: Aqua (Hololive)
>25,596: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,151: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,106: Toya (Nijisanji)
>21,070: Mumei (Hololive)
>20,286: Bae (Hololive)
>19,898: Okayu (Hololive)
>18,867: Luna (Hololive)
>17,326: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,661: AZKi (Hololive)
>15,405: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,947: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,452: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,275: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,552: Himawari (Nijisanji)
>11,519: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,778: Aki (Hololive)
>10,454: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,181: Nose (VSPO)
>10,072: Sumire (VSPO)

>>77713320
Koyori...That's pretty cute actually

>>77713783
>>77712899
damn, she really thought about how the hands are positioned i think the small fingie from the right hand is a bit larger

holochads im tired of all this winning... where is the competition?

>>77713789
Reminder that they haven't made a single tweet about Kronii's birthday live
Not one

Errrr Niji and Homos?

>>77713789
Reminder 20th is Gura birthday and they will tweet the homos first

>>77713788
3D debut you mean. Alot of Anons were guessing sub 10k. So close.

>>77713853
>is a Sapling
Fuck off newfag, we know who Selenfag is

YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY
>06/07 TALLY:
26,585: Gura (Hololive) | Don't Scream
10,362: Fauna (Hololive) | House Flipper 2
9,438: IRyS (Hololive) | Undertale
8,313: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Content Warning Collab w/ Advent + Announcement
7,740: Mori (Hololive) | Holomelo Radio w/ Kobo
7,717: Bijou (Hololive) | Content Warning Collab w/ Advent + Announcement


>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2024
1) Gura (Hololive) - 33,959 - New Stuff
2) Gura (Hololive) - 33,837 - Dark Souls: Remastered Race w/ Fauna
3) Bijou (Hololive) - 22,753 - Granblue Fantasy: Relink Collab w/ Ina, Kiara, Zeta
4) Mumei (Hololive) - 20,124 - Offcollab w/ Baelz
5) Gura (Hololive) - 24,282 - Fix Boxing featuring Hatsune Miku
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,203 - Don't Scream
7) Gura (Hololive) - 26,585 - Don't Scream

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Gura
1x: Bijou, FuwaMoco, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
20p: Gura
9p: Bijou, Fauna
8p: FuwaMoco
7p: IRyS
5p: Mumei
1p: Baelz, Bettel, Meloco, Mori, Shiori

>>77713848
Meanwhile on breadwinner side
Funny how the staff responsible for merch use "3D debut" here instead of EN staff's obsession with "3D showcase"

>>77713825
we love kirincock here

>>77713825
>>77713747

>>77713853
You are a retard annoucing that you are still lurking in /jp?

There has been no ironmouse posting since the concert announcement. What is the ennacuck doing?

>>77713825
Aww, why are you so upset? Does the baby need its bottle?

>>77713828
nope
in fact they buried those tweets right after the announcements with homo ones

>>77713878
Yagoo kept the twitter handler, and prased the person for promoting his holostars

>>77713825
Fauna thread

>>77713825
I will always suck Fauna off

imagine that instead of homos they had debuted holo
imagine just how much more money Cover could have made compared to the homos just on the 3D debut alone
but alas, Cover doesn't care about money and now he has to hide the homos from the investors again

>>77713863
JUNE 2024 GOLD
>1) 98,463: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE 1st generation Princess Party [24]
>2) 76,031: Ryushen (Nijisanji) Niji Smash Tournament [49]
>3) 54,294: Aqua (Hololive) AkuPeko SF6 [21]
>4) 41,250: Reid (Neo-Porte) Mahjong [27]
>5) 88,122: Miko (Hololive) Holo Middle School quiz [20]
>6) 97,110: Watame (Hololive) 3DLIVE Bday [23]
>7) 39,382: Flare (Hololive) Shiranui Kensetsu collab + announcement [16]
>8) 39,580: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur 6

> PER COMPANY
6: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji
1x: Neo-Porte

> PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Hololive, Ryushen, Aqua, Reid, Watame, Flare

>>77713925
>06/07 Tally
I just noticed? Did the EN talley for 06/08 never get posted?

>>77713894
Retard. They'll tweet Gura first and THEN bury it with homo retweets. Just like the 2nd concert stuff

>>77713950
They must have hired one of those "localizers"

>>77713846
Aqua reached sans after I fell asleep

>sub 11k showcase
>couldn't beat a fucking tree #41
>probably wouldn't have gotten cripple podium even without the botter
>not even useful enough to beat nijitrash

>>77713828
They buried the concert announcement as fast as they possibly could

>>77714022
JUNE 2024 SILVER
>1) 48,696: Miko (Hololive) Captain Tsubasa RISE OF NEW CHAMPIONS
>2) 54,240: Miko (Hololive) Captain Tsubasa RISE OF NEW CHAMPIONS
>3) 44,181: Pekora (Hololive) AkuPeko SF6
>4) 41,037: Pekora (Hololive) HoloAmongus
>5) 41,927: Marine (Hololive) Platform 8
>6) 37,889: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft not Holoserver w/ Fubu-san, Suisei
>7) 34,181: Aqua (Hololive) Utawaku
>8) 36,376: Hololive English (Hololive) HoloENQuiz + Announcement

> PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
3x: Miko
2x: Pekora
1x: Marine, Aqua, Hololive English Ch.

>>77713950
I should save up, I'd kill myself if I missed the Advent equivalent of the Ame cap

>>77713998
Best part is that it's not covering the costs of the 3D and the travel + habitation expenses
Operating at loss

>>77713972
NTA but if by bottle you mean those fat tits, Yes.

Jesus what's the point of BVTM and OKBH when they don't even watch Flayon?

>>77714024
It was posted, it was missing FWMC. Idk if it was fixed

>>77713950
Just curious, but to any anons that got Mumei's lamp, how is it?

my wife

Just bought ginger peach tea, I hope it tastes good

>>77713825
fuck off tranny, i like fauna and you should kill yourself

>>77713982
Can fans do anything about the unfair treatment? I mean homobeggars succeeded in posting holostars on the holoproduction subreddit why can't the girls fans do the same?

>>77713925
>06/08 TALLY:
36,376: Hololive EN (Hololive) | HoloENquiz + Concert Announcement
20,074: Mumei (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke w/ Baelz
18,616: Baelz (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke w/ Mumei
10,454: Kiara (Hololive) | Karaoke + Announcement
9,948: Fauna (Hololive) | WarioWare: Move It
9,352: Ren (Nijisanji) | Outfit Reveal
9,175: Kronii (Hololive) | Don't Scream
8,034: Bijou (Hololive) | Little Kitty, Big City
5,098: Meloco (Nijisanji) | Offcollab w/ Ao


>EN GOLDS FOR JUNE 2024
1) Gura (Hololive) - 33,959 - New Stuff
2) Gura (Hololive) - 33,837 - Dark Souls: Remastered Race w/ Fauna
3) Bijou (Hololive) - 22,753 - Granblue Fantasy: Relink Collab w/ Ina, Kiara, Zeta
4) Mumei (Hololive) - 20,124 - Offcollab w/ Baelz
5) Gura (Hololive) - 24,282 - Fix Boxing featuring Hatsune Miku
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,203 - Don't Scream
7) Gura (Hololive) - 26,585 - Don't Scream
8) Hololive EN (Hololive) - 36,376 - HoloENquiz + Concert Announcement

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Gura
1x: Bijou, FuwaMoco, Hololive EN, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
20p: Gura
9p: Bijou, Fauna
8p: FuwaMoco, Mumei
7p: IRyS
5p: Hololive EN
2p: Baelz
1p: Bettel, Meloco, Mori, Shiori

>>77713998
>imagine that instead of homos they had debuted holo
Feel like it would be tought getting the rights from spice and wolf

>>77714130
Its not that bright, but its a decent bedside night lamp if you like those

>Last year

>>77714113
they don't actually care about the homos, they only care about fighting the culture war against LE EVIL UNICORN INCELS
the only legitimate homoEN fans are like a dozen women and faggots in /mans/, the rest watching were just tourists

>>77714113
They also watch phase

>>77714089
JUNE 2024 BRONZE
>1) 43,812: Salome (Nijisanji) 3D LIVE
>2) 48,206: Pekora (Hololive) The Second World
>3) 41,679: Miko (Hololive) Platform 8
>4) 31,317: Aqua (Hololive) HoloAmongus
>5) 37,078: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) SF6
>6) 27,231: Aqua (Hololive) Platform 8
>7) 26,585: Gura (Hololive) DON'T SCREAM
>8) 34,576: Riri (Nijisanji)

> PER COMPANY
3x: Nijisanji
5x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Aqua
1x: Salome, Pekora, Miko, Kuzuha, Gura, Riri

>>77714079
No, he 100% wouldn't have gotten pdoium without the botter thanks to Fauna raiding Fuwawa.

>>77714112
Here you go, champ. Drink up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hxzlvVHQs
>overlaps homo 3d
based

>>77714170
>why can't the girls fans do the same
You’re not allowed to post the girls on the homo subreddit. Boiz only.

>>77714214
Just like mumei

>>77714243
JUNE 2024 holoID
>1) 2,458: Kaela (Offkai Post-talk)
>2) 13,541: Kobo (Honor of Kings) [4]
>3) 2,632: Moona (Talking Session)
>4) 4,889: Moona (Minecraft)
>5) 3,035: Zeta (Stardew Valley)
>6) 2,074: Zeta (SUSHI Race)
>7) 5,356: Kaela (Miko Sniper)
>8) 4,959: Ollie (Holostars Concert Watchalong)

> PER STREAMER
2x: Moona, Zeta, Kaela
1x: Kobo, Ollie

How does ordering a second play button work, couldn't a Niji just order and pay for it themselves because it's their channel or would they have to go thru management because that's who owns their channel and the second one would be charged thru the company? Even if it's the second option why wouldn't the company just let them pay for it themselves if they really wanted one, or why doesn't the talent just go around management and order it themselves, the worst that can happen is them getting fired from Niji and honestly it would probably be for the best because they could use it for sympathy points, like could you imagine if Niji did one of those slander pieces and one of the points was "and the talent went behind our backs to order their own Play Button", although knowing it's Niji they probably would do that.

>>77713950
I need to save for advent

>>77713912
Are Greenfag and Selenfag the same person?

>>77714223
Gura loves a good bukkake birthday

can`t believe the homo 3D couldn't even win against ennatrash that reclined to the oblivion

>>77714339
They have to go through management who would just give them the middle finger

>>77714312
>Kobo is now Ollie tier
Holyfuck pls kill me

>>77713982
>>77714086
Holostars is a brand risk

>>77714242
DONT KICK SINGRONII YOU CUNT

>>77714157
Okayu is very cute an sexy!

>>77714312
Wait. Why a purely ID one? Kek

>>77713879
>lost to baubaus too
GRIM

>>77714110
someone should do a rough estimate of the costs of the debuts, like 4 person flight tickets to Japan and back, renting apartments, using the studio for a week, producing and designing the merch etc...

>>77714385
That show was so kino and she did it all alone

>>77713998
Luxiem baited them hard
Lmao

>>77713879
grim

>>77714339
Is this reddit shit again

>>77714427
16k

>>77713859
Man there's just something about the way Ina draws faces that I really like

I really want to know how dual stream CCV works. I assume a Fuwawa to Mococo raid would have a close to 100% raid success, but raids don't always work and some people probably left since the gaming portion was over, so it's hard to tell how much is just people leaving vs Youtube counting CCV funny for 2 streams on the same channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqbiBTgcaiA

New Ponpoko-chan and Peanuts-kun exploring roadside stations

>>77713781
Only Botan

>>77714242
Eat your vegetables Kronii

>>77714441
maybe for the first homo gen, but after they could have stopped at any point

>>77713998
the damage luxiem has done to vtuber industry is staggering

>>77714079
>>couldn't beat a fucking tree #41
Is it actually the 41st tree stream?

>>77714312
How do we save ID?

>>77713950
That's the Kiara water bottle that outsold the whole tempus underwear merch run they did isn't it?

>>77714480
She's so hot yet so single

>>77714480
Choco is literal sex yet get zero mindshare. Explain

>>77714427
>nonstop spam New outfit
>Still a failure
.....

>>77714554
Whores are meant to be used and discarded

>>77714511
Nah, it's the 34th

>>77713982
They are forcing down content that people don't like down their throat. Imagine being excited after the announcement stream go to twitter for more details and all you see are holostars. Tell me this isn't forced shit and management betting they can get some of the talents fans into being interested in holostars.

>>77714461
>raids don't always work
Yeah, it failed for me and I had to manually move over to Mococo's stream.

Is your oshi a homie?

>>77714243
breasts don't float like that

>>77714024
>Did the EN talley for 06/08 never get posted?
I'm sure it did but then the 06/07 tally started getting reposted in threads instead, for some reason

>>77714462
> peanut model is one of the most successful male tubers
Why doesn't Cover just put out a fucking broccoli model or something. Stop with the faggy models for homos already

>>77714427
So assuming this beats the homo, their last hope for a cripple gold is next week?

>>77714521
>the whole tempus underwear merch run
jesus christ I didn't need to be reminded of that shit and the accompanying Kronii tweet that caused it

>>77714490
For that part, it was entirely on Omega
He probably knows Yagoo's ultimate weakness is the homos.

>>77714554
She was never able to recover from when Youtube demonetized her channel because of her spicy ASMR vids.

>>77714480
negligee would be so based.

Advent 3D right into a live concert, while Homo 3D is never to be used again, what's the point?

>>77713950
I think it's obvious that the staff is not monolithic and there's a pro-girl/Hololive faction (outside of just Jap and some of the managers) despite everything.

>>77714480
Cant wait. I'm actually looking forward to this one and the fanart

You need to be under 18 to hate on Homos
Yeah that right . We - the adult ,love homos

>>77714490
They saw luxiem, got too excited and decided to fill up the debut pipeline with them without waiting to see how it went

>>77714170
>Can fans do anything about the unfair treatment?
You can write to cover about it, the EN staff might filter it even if you are reasonable. So you might have better luck sending it on the JP side

>Homo space
No Hololive allowed
>Hololive space
NO THE BOIZ MUST BE IN HERE HOLOSTARS IS HOLOLIVE TOO

When do you think the girls' fans will say "enough is enough" with this sort of treatment?

>>77714650
They have to pray Fauna doesn't stream next weekend for them to even have a chance next weekend

>>77714620
Kek.

>>77714667
Looks more like a party dress or, if we kinda stretch it a wedding dress, though the skirt being sheer wouldn't match in that case

>>77714635
>successful
peanut botter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfeZx_PGlZo
>Shiori's going to dox all of Advent

>>77714708
I did and i'm waiting to see if Kronii manage to get that meeting she asked for
Last time i checked they ghosted her

Torn between which one is more pathetic

>>77714678
Pretty sure they just use them for Home 3D.

>>77714678
1.charity
2.so loud minority will stfu about never getting anything
but we all know they won't

>>77714554
She's boring as hell

>>77714678
Surely they'll use it for something, right? Otherwise it's purely a waste of funds and studio time that could've gone to the Holos.

>>77714735
Kinda ironic when you think about it, but the best bet is Kronii going nuclear on their twitter

>>77714380
Eh it's not quite that bad
Ollie's was a 5-person collab including Bae
Kobo's normal numbers aren't great, often failing to hit the cripple tally (if she were eligible), but she still can get tourist heavy collabs that hit the global tally, primarily from bigger indo content creators
Without that advantage she'd probably average below Kaela

>>77713848
I remember people talking about it before and claiming it was disproven. I guess they were wrong after all, they really are doing so bad they get cookie cutter merch now.

>>77714388
thank you

>>77714774
>going to
well... a bit late for that, isn't it?

>>77714507
>Enters industry starting a Male chuuba c craze
>Proceeds to collapse and tarnish the Male chuuba market all in their own through non-stop yabs
Sasuga

>>77714703
Aren’t most of the homos younger than their female counterparts? Least the EN branch. There aren’t that many older male vtubers in general these days. It’s all zoomers. Probably a big reason why an older Hololive fanbase has no interest in them. Who wants to watch zoomer faggots?

>>77714635
Carried by PokoPea
Cover can't make PokoPea-style content

>>77714554
Honestly, while it's obvious Choco is very charming and pretty irl, it doesn't fully travel over to the screen. Doesn't really shine in collabs or solo. Good ASMR vtuber though which did admittedly hamper her

>>77714819
Why do you think the management is mentally abusing Kronii right now based on her zatsu recently?

>>77714775
Nijisanji is more pathetic, that's an entire gen

>>77714775
Honestly, I'm surprised that Ethyria broke 10k.

>>77713825
we love green kirins here

>>77714776
Wonder if we could superchat the issue to kiara or other talents

>>77714554
Collabs with nijiniggers, homos and ecelebs

>>77714921
Probably would've been more but those incompetent fucks gave a 40 minute live

>>77714380
>>77714826
have you guys seen the graph?

>>77714836
>claiming it was disproven
more like management is just incredibly slow with any change in any direction

>>77714775
Both shit. Graduate them all

[breaking news] Dwarf children are doing blackface

I kinda wish Hololive didn't win the great vtuber war. Instead of making vtubing for everyone and open to all sorts of collabs we're left with the culture of seclusion and segregation with everyone trying to do idol shit. All because NijiEN couldn't resist writing a hitlist on someone who wanted to cut ties with no fanfare. If this were CIV it'd be like winning a religious and cultural victory on the same turn.

>>77714441
>>77714507

>>77714595
>Whores are meant to be used and discarded
like IM,Phase, and the other non -Holo shitters you fag like to talk about in our thread.

>>77714925
I've seen both Mori and Kiara retweet some news fan account before the EN account does anything
And when you consider how a lot of the EN girls tweeted about Kronii's outfit in the middle of the shitshow i do believe they are aware of the situation

>>77714650
The full group one is probably their only shot

>>77714620
thats funny

>>77714775
The homo beat the homoJPs debut at least.

>>77714735
People could always post more Hololive posts on the homo subreddit. It’s not actually against the rules, despite the homobeggars’ seething. Just the last guy triggered anti-spam.

>>77715000
I fucking love this image

>>77714819
This, the twitter handler knows talents won't complain since it brings drama giving them free reign to abuse their position.

>>77714964
who was the raid?
>>77714986
Idol shit is great.

Well numbers Aqua is calling me to bed. Have a good night.

>>77714964
Oof. That's some horrible retention. That stream's gotta be suffering in the algo.

>>77715075
>Aqua is calling me to be
Sir, she is streaming.

>>77714985
That's why we're a DwarfCHAD thread

>>77715001
BASED BASED BASED

>>77714788
chu

I ended up buying Dark Souls, there is no way for Fauna or Gura beating the gargoyles

>>77715000
Pretty much only Shotou is the only relevant EOP Male chuuba nowadays right? Everyone else whose notable is a part-time converts who already had streaming careers.

>>77714507
>>77715000
Niji and the homos both completely destroyed any hope for male vtubers for the foreseeable future. It would take a complete SSS rank pull in terms of streamer quality from Yagoo to actually correct course there, and even then he'd have to hope EN management or their homos didn't purposefully sabotage him.

>>77715071
>>77715085
It was a Windah raid lol
As expected they left quickly

>>77713848
Didn't Flayon just have his birthday recently, what did his merch look like for it?

>>77713874
>where is the competition?
dropping the ball so hard that even a literal who company like pixellink are snatching up viewers

>>77714461
Yeah, this raid was particularly bad because it was the transition to the post-game portion, so they were going to lose a lot of people anyhow. If you take that into account, it adds up

>>77715071
>Idol shit is great.
Only if your the vtuber's fan or if they're actually good. The NijiEN thing tonight was kinda ass.

>>77714986
NICE NUMBERS HOMO LOVER FAGGOTS. KILL YOURSELVES LOSERS.

>>77714986
> If this were CIV it'd be like winning a religious and cultural victory on the same turn.
Based. Not Holos fault that everyone is too uninspired to do something else

>>77714985
Dwarfs are meant to be like grubby lil moles.

>>77715153
isn't that the guy who got popular by leeching luxiem early on

>>77714554
I figure like a third of JP holos lack non-event mindshare on this board if it wasn't for a dedicated fan shilling them like that Robosa in hlgg or that Kanade fan here (sorry I don't know what her fanbase is called)

>>77715172
No limited merch so we can't tell, iirc.

>>77715153
Why are you ignoring Nameless?

>>77714554
>was their original marathon gamer
>best known for ASMR content
>poor health forced her not to game for so long
>YouTube getting rid of ASMR content hurt her growth
>Without ASMR she's not very interesting when compared to the other girls out there

>>77715071
i heard it was Windah, one of Kobo's fleshstreamer friends?

>>77715180
Only if you're an Hologod
ftfy

>>77714986
Holo will always win since the fanbase will focus more on their oshis. Even when HoloJPs were runts, the fanbase mostly wanted the girls to be successful. Most non-Holo corpos nowadays focus more on Hololive's downfall instead of improving the quality of their own brand.

>>77715151
They just gotta summon Solaire. Actually, on second thought, even that's probably not enough.

>>77715237
This but Azki

onyan will beat sans

Sans Undertale

>>77715219
Not a man no matter how much they larp. Everyone knows they're a woman

>>77715164
Sutopuri and Neo-porte should be the one filling the gap instead of Hololive because it just doesn't suit Hololive brand at all

>>77715075
Good night bud. Aqua is streaming though.

>>77715239
thats very nice of him i hope kobo can get him a collab with gura

>>77715253
Do other corpos have Cover fuck-you money? Because without money, they can't compete with Hololive

Numbers

>>77714986
I'm pretty sure hololive was just doing their thing and picking their niche which is to do idol related stuff(It saved them from just relying on streaming alone). While the rest of the vtubing world constantly shit on them always, then drama blew up all over the place and they experienced first hand how it felt like for hololive.

>>77713848
So the merch gonna be a color swap with the next 2 homo.

>>77715203
People are doing other shit, they're just not winning.

>>77715263
I mean, let's be real, they probably would be hard stuck on the first floor of that church

ame clones are literally peak vtuber, its not even close. jp esl acting like anime girls

>>77714986
Nigga, non segregation and "no idol" thing is part of what causing the downfall of nijien. what cope are you on?

>>77715219
U-san is a fucking woman no matter how mentally ill she is.

>>77715151
How are you enjoying it so far?

>>77715164
the homostars brand can never be salvaged, there are too many shitters who are too repulsive for anyone to thrive. A male vtuber (or male vtuber group, but this is harder) COULD work, but it will never happen in HoloPro because of the reputation they've made for themselves.

>>77715328
Hololive started as nothing, if other can't make it then they are just worthless

>>77715151
If fauna actually cared she could do it eventually, but gura is hopeless

>>77715305
Would the Sans fight be half as kino without Megolovania? Honestly, that's probably the best part of the fight to me.

>>77714380
She is sexy so I let it pass

>>77715310
You're right, it fits Holostars brand, but because they absolutely refuse to distinguish the two and instead repeatedly try to jam a square peg into a round hole it just creates problems. They need to cut them off completely and establish them as an entirely separate branding an IP, not try to tack them on to the detriment of both.

>>77715328
HoloJPs got big with Aki streaming on a phone. It's about content and not technology. You don't need money to do a kino storyline like Aqua resistance arc.

>>77715151
We will see about it in the next episode

>>77715151
I think the boss is pretty easy when you realize that it a dps rush check.

>>77715370
They really can't fathom people simply want to watch cute anime girls being retarded and do concerts

>>77715214
yeah he built his whole career off being the 6th member of luxiem and ditched them when they started losing popularity.

>>77715383
Is pretty fun once you upgrade your weapon and learn to parry. Taking it slow because of work.

>>77714339
Send an email or fax to YouTube (in English).

How come nobody is sperging at Nene's sleeping stream

>>77715389
I'm a firm believer in the
>with enough fire, anything can be salvaged
mentality. They just have to be willing to actually do it, which Yagoo fucking isn't.

>>77715497
We don't watch homocollabers here

>>77715310
Isnt Neoporte basically dead?

It's not hard. Just be a good person.
And by person I mean woman.

>>77715485
I envy you, getting into soulsborne for the first time changed my perception on a lot of things, games or life in general

>>77715485
>Learn to parry
I never actually learned how to do that. I always just circled around the enemies aiming for backstabs.

>>77715515
I thought Hololive was above sleeping streams

>>77715483
Isn't his whole scthick also just the same as Uki's just not as faggy?

>>77715401
No one has offered an actual new product in the corpo vtubing space for years. Everyone is some combination of video games, karaoke, chatting and idolshit. Dramatubers are the biggest innovation since EN vtubers who didn't sell porn.

Is she for real?

https://youtu.be/ddTnvzqbvQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Io37vU_dY

New HimeHina MV

>>77715153
Define relevent. What's his ccv?

>>77714986
Everyone has to stop sucking ass in order to actually compete with Hololive which seems to be impossible for some reason as being stupid at running businesses seems to be chronic for most of the industry.

>>77715504
The issue is that a lot of them just aren't good or entertaining streamers in the first place. Roberu carries that whole branch on his back.

>>77715574
Hololive is. homocollabing eceleb worshipping sluts aren't hololive.

>>77715594
>new product in the corpo vtubing world.
Is there even anything new that could be done at this point?

>>77715504
I'm not sure firing everyone and hiring new holostars would be a better position than firing everyone and starting a new brand that wasn't associated with them.

>>77715594
Maybe if Gamebu didnt actually exploded we could have heavily scripted show/comedy niche

>>77714788
CHU CHU CHU
CUNNY CHU
PLAPPY CHU

>>77715389
Brotubers approach doesn't work for holostars because they do idol stuff similar to the girls. They also can't do purely idol stuff since yagoo wanted them to be brotubers, They can't collab with the girls because it ruins the cgdct appeal and the most it could do is just leech from existing fanbase or alienate it without bringing in new fans, They can't fujo pander because cover wants to make its image clean due to yt restriction. Anyways yeah it was shit from the start, if yagoo's idea was to give males for the lonely introverted talents to marry maybe it would make sense?

>>77714678
Just to paint they are given equal opportunity and then shove them somewhere.

>>77715328
How is that relevant at all to what he said. Cover didn't use to have Fuck You money either when they were runts

>>77715594
The next step of the current vtubing space is bringing vtubers to arenas and stadiums, which Hololive is doing right now

>>77713789
reminder that a fujo runs that account and should be sent to the guilletin

The only thing that can save Pippa is leaving Phase Connect and starting over in a different channel.

>>77714986
kys

>>77715706
No one wants haha funny heavily scripted interaction

>>77715164
A single mythical homo recruit would not be enough now. That brand really needs scrapping and reinventing. It needs to be moved out from the hololive productions brand as well so that it can step out from the massive shadow hololive casts. Even >if they weren't a bunch of losers, in hololive's shadow they'll always look like losers.

>>77715731
boy bands could work for both male and female demographic, but that's a high bar for recruitment.

>>77715696
My big ideas are scripted narratives, acting and improv, and gambling with real money.

>>77715153
I browsed through kemono or coomer and I found out he did blowjob asmr on his onlyfans or whatever

>FuwaMoco make a post on the subreddit and are forced to see the Flayon discussion thread currently being botted

>>77715594
Nigga I've seen literally anything get turned into vtubing from vloggers to DIY and shit

Hololive is that successful because of Idol stuff and how good their vetting process for new talents is (minus the homos)
The hobby was never meant to be grifted and used as some sort of new medium for everybody
Cute idols singing, dancing and being bad at video games. that's all there is to it.

>>77715842
Scripted narratives and acting was literally the old vtubing scene, and it died

>>77714986
This is an old reddit comment isn't it

>>77714986
Kys history revisionist. Your titanic sunk precisely because it's a fucking titanic.

>>77714113
They are bunch of token supporters.

>>77715832
I like one direction and holostars just isn't it. Also putting holo in their brand was a mistake since they would constantly be compared with hololive.

>>77715923
Yeah lmao, pretty old now

>>77715842
If only Japan wasn't so gay about gambling, we could have a Holoearth casino.

>>77715594
Hololive shot the standards of Vtubing into the goddamn stratosphere which is the main issue for everyone else. Everyone is playing catchup while Hololive is delving into giant projects and mainstream brand deals. You need something like a Jerma or Markiplier to bring something new into the Vtubing space.

>>77715696
More Azulim clone

Will Onion beat botted FWMC?

Fauna playing Minecraft because she saw what Kanata was saying about her tree is very cute.

>>77715842
>scripted narratives, acting and improv, and gambling with real money.
So the RUST gambling arc

>>77714735
It remind me when government forcing those faggot to enter women lockers room full of non consenting women and you a sexist if you don't like it, except you can't do the same to the men room in this case which worst compare the real world.

>>77715515
Cope nigger

>>77716014
Oh did she mention that clip?
I had wondered if she'd seen it

The Onyon did not fall for San's mercy trap.

>>77715986
Azulim content is trash tho

>>77715328
Practically speaking, in the saturated markets that Cover dominates, to meaningfully compete you either need to:
a) spend a shit ton of cash, some with perhaps dubious means and ends (see Brave corp)
b) hope Cover shoots itself in the foot (which was happening in 2022 and 2023 excluding ID3 and advent and the main events)
The latter btw is what happened to the previous kings of the space before 2020 and is happening to Anycolor right now

>>77715594
Kys. You fags hiding behind a anime png are basically scared of revealing yourselves while dramafagging for views.

>>77715151
The gargoyles are a bit of a wall when you're brand new to that type of game, but they're not too bad once you get the hang of it.
Especially if you find Andre and upgrade your weapon to +5, then you kill them in a few hits

>>77715671
I mean, Cover aren't fantastic at running the business either, they're just less shit than others and the girls are powerful enough to carry them.

>>77715848
> onlyfans
Everyone and their mothers have an onlyfans. Jesus

>>77715704
>firing everyone
You don't have to fire them anon, go the good ol' jap company route and shoo them away until they fuck off on their own. Try to mold the more salvageable ones with better management, and cut off the horrible ones from the ones with potential lest they ruin your stock.
>starting a new brand that wasn't associated with them
Don't have to do that either. If you can just manage to get one, single guy who outshines the rest (I'm talking exclusively EN here, JP is a whole different ballgame and I don't speak Japanese well enough to understand the necessary nuance) that one guy will single handedly "own" the branding and steer the ship himself. Imagine you manage to get a guy who can get (entertain my delusion) 5k and up on his regular streams while the others struggle just to hit 3. If you can just divide him from the rest and groom him into a proper figurehead you can work on attracting others like him and building off him instead of away from the rest.
It's a retardedly ridiculous concept based on how bad things are currently, but that's about the only actual solution I can see for "Holostars EN" at this point.

>>77716044
Yeah, someone asked her about it in her SC. She said she's always happy when people go to see and comment on her tree, and that's what go ther to play Minecraft today instead of the Witcher

>>77715172
Better then his first birthday merch but not by that much. Pretty generic merch looking

>>77715874
I wonder if the dogs were so inclined to ask for the sub to be holo only if cover would oblige them.

>>77715962
Is it? I'm kinda curious to see what the responses were. Even ledditors are pushing back on Holobashing these days

>>77714090
Shit I forgot about that. I will have four merches to buy fuck. At least shipping is decent nowadays

>>77716129
They probably bring in more money than the entire branch, but well Cover doesn't work like that

>>77715858
How's the new moona doujin?

>>77716088
Vox Akumatitties ver 2 whose model spots a chastity belt where the fans can buy the keys after his 2nd year anniversary provided he hit 1 million subs.

>>77715370
It diluted the appeal and uniqueness of vtubing. Nobody realized it, similar to how many vtubers now are doing the same shit as any other rl streamers, it removes the appeal to watch them

>>77716129
it isnt worth it to try save that thing just let it die lol

>>77716150
I think it's gone now because it was actually in the main nijisanji subreddit and they've been fully cleansed for over a month now

>>77716065
you have shit taste and can't recognize kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qiEq2bUV2o

>>77716214
Please do not joke about that or put images like that in my head anon it's bad for my mental health

>>77715832
>>77715938
Isn't that what PLAVE is doing? But at that point you're competing with actual seasoned idols, not the Holo-style idol streamers.

List of places Hololive has performed in
>Ariake Arena
>Yogogi Stadium
>Rod Laver Arena
>Taipei Music Center, Concert Hall
>Youtube Theater
>Kings Theater
Literally no vtuber company can compare to Hololive right now when they have these accolades

>nijisisters comparing their 3D to homostars 3D of all things
>Advent 3D around the corner to absolutely destroy the both of them

A sad state of affairs for nijisisters huh?

You know what would be a good idea?
A different topic.

>>77714986
I'm glad CGDCT and idols are winning the culture war. Even vshojo wants to get into idols now.

>>77715973
If I ran Cover that's exactly what I'd do. I'd have my programmers making HoloCASINO where you can watch the cute girls playing craps and make your own side bets on the table or stake your oshi when she's about to bust in poker. Casino chips could be cashed out for hololive merch or spent on superchats that show up for the girls while they're playing... or you could try your luck on holoSLOTS

>>77714279
Hwikky drunk live on stream

>>77716279
Retard
What even being a vtuber adds to content like this other than just being more hassle to produce?

>>77716325
Don't forget Viv:ID!!

>>77716332
Did someone ask for TOWAPOST

>>77716332
Give one then you cute faggot. God I love me some Towa

>>77716325
Don't forget Dodgers Stadium

>>77716195
Can they delete post?

>>77716335
kys, shameful dispray

>>77716332
Let's talk about Towa

>>77715594
Kill yourself, subhuman.

>>77716394
Is he preparing to put himself into debt for concert and plane tickets? Kek

>>77716206
Unjerkable

>>77716409
Can Dodgers Stadium be counted when people go there to watch the Dodgers and not Hololive?

Fauna will never be an idol.
She will never do a Birthday/Anniversary live
She will never be popular.
She will never be able to sing well.
She will never be able to dance well
She will never inspire people.
She already decided she was going to spite her followers by saying she doesn't ever think of them as friends.
She will never go back to schedules
She'll never stream regularly
She will always come up with excuses after excuses to not stream
She'll never give a shit about her audience
She'll never do projects like literally everyone else in EN
She'll never be relevant
Her "gaming idol kirin" will always be a lie
She'll never be a real Hololive talent
She'll forever be a worthless whore who Advent dwarfed
She is nothing but a shameless grifting larper.

>>77716335
Can't even brush her teeth.
Big yikes

I'd fuck Towa

>>77716325
You've forgot a few other places, but how on earth do you forget Makuhari Messe?

>>77716462

homos strongest soldier...

I know she won't, but I want to see Aqua struggle for hours on sans.

>>77716325
they still yet have to perform in Philippine Arena, SMX Arena, and Araneta Coliseum though.

>>77716520
>silly hat

>>77716507
I wrote this post

>>77716507
But It's not opposite day yet.

>>77715594
>No one has offered an actual new product in the corpo vtubing space for years.
they dont need to but if they want to start improving the technology would be a major first step
> Everyone is some combination of video games, karaoke, chatting and idolshit.
Thats what works for Corpos. Indies do more go watch them.
> Dramatubers are the biggest innovation
What does that have to do with corpos? Thats indie shit.

>>77716082
The bar is as low as
>"Go at least one year without a major controversy that results in a massive loss loss of Vtubers"
Cover got their shit sorted out last year while everyone else is either too small and slow to catch up or are constantly imploding from bad decisions. I'm not even going to count Vshojo at this point because they veered off into being a hybrid flesh streamer club these days and they're current success is solely dependent on a different agency's misfortune.

>>77716462
I'd love to date this cute girl!

>>77716514
>Makuhari Messe
It's not a legit arena/stadium though

>>77716529
>not even Ollie wants to watch the homos

>>77716529
she missed myabi being on Flayons 3D live

>>77716396
Same logic can be applied to any type of vtubing content
Vtubing is just a medium, you don't have to "justify" it. Nothing is wrong with her content, not my fault you can't recognize kino

>>77716542
we hate Bibi in this thread

>>77714986
The worst part is that Hololive didn't win learning a lesson and power through, they just stayed in their lane going 60mph while everyone else crashed.

>>77716482

>>77715981
Meanwhile other corpos and vtubers were so averse to the hololive culture, pushing for the idea that being a regular streamer with an anime avatar on was the best approach. Until hololive began making lots of money and lots of people interested from their idol approach that other corpos followed. All the talks of morality and virtue signalling doesn't hide what people truly want from vtubers

HoloEN's real idols are only Kiara and Fuwamoco.

>>77716529
Reinforcing the stereotypes that only SEAsters consume homo jizz

>>77716566
Yes it is you retard

>>77715706
>>77715842
Why would you not watch anime then? Are regular streamers innovating?

>>77716507
I'd let Towa fuck me no homo

>AZKi 16k
if you told someone 2 yrs ago that she would be a firm 2nd army soldier now they would laugh heh

>July: Dodgers x Hololive
>August: Breaking Dimension
Alright anons, what is the best way to enjoy both events without bankrupting myself?

>the shark

>>77716582
Holy shit, it's too late to jerk off, so I'll save this for later. Thanks anon.

>>77714788
come ere

>>77716576
NTA. Nothing is wrong with that content but at that point you're not competing with vtubers, you're competing with other IRL vloggers, many of whom have better production values

>>77716689
is incredibly cute!

>>77716088
This is just”real HoloStars have never been tried”

>>77716532
>Struggle for hours on sans.
Has any Holo struggled as much as Kanata did? It was pretty kino watching her finally beat him.

>>77716668
She's as boring as choco.
The only reason she's popular is because she still gives off the air of sex unlike choco that TMI regarding her failed sex life.

>>77716728
towa
https://files.catbox.moe/r7k3lc.webm

>>77716748
What makes AZkI sexier than Choco?

>>77716615
There are spies within Cover. They will fall soon, just you wait. We're patient

>>77716661
Why would everyone not just watch regular streamer then instead of vtubing?
Same logic
Scripted shows and skits with group dynamics COULD work again, someone just need to try it for the second time
Heck you can even count Hologura as that type of content, now you just need to scale it

>>77716482
Someone's close to figuring out the truth again

>>77716763
Actually married.

>>77716763
>he doesn't know

[otter news] they are eating, is very cute how they pick up their food with their little hands, the retards think they are humans HA!

>>77716728
>>77716756(me)
replied to anon by mistake btw

>>77716551
>Thats what works for Corpos
it doesn't work for anyone but hololive and (decreasingly) Nijisanji. There is LITERALLY no competition because they own that market entirely. If you're going to watch a vtuber, and you aren't specifically watching an indie because of the niche content they create, you have no reason to ever watch anything but hololive. The point is that if anyone wants to compete with hololive vtubers they're going to have to do something new that Indies can't afford or coordinate and hololive doesn't currently provide.

>>77713825
Always
To the hilt tongue out and with a smile

>>77716721
Pretty much. If you're playing it as a thought experiment looking at it from a "problem solve" point of view it's the only real angle I can approach it from that's not just throwing them all out the front door.

>>77716678
Skip basebore

/Towa/i;boards:vt

>>77716776
>Why would everyone not just watch regular streamer then instead of vtubing?
Can't watch cunny that way

>>77716067
>b) hope Cover shoots itself in the foot
You need to clarify that Cover needs to royally fuck up, completely alienate their fans with some absolute bullshit. I honestly don't see that happening, Yagoo has his flaws, but he's not an idiot.

>Our boys worked very hard on this
"working hard" with Onee san money
Homo have no shame

>>77716668
she is not gaming at all... her screams are pretty cute..

>>77716812
Mousey is currently the only vtuber who provides the indie experience and widely successful right now

>>77716728
Pekora was pretty kino; I'm not really sure about any others, but yeah, Kanata was straight fucking hell.

>>77716805
otter chuuba(holo only) when

>>77716776
HoloGura is expensive retard. Making an entire channel based on contents like that, you might as well just make anime

>>77716473
Kek poor guy.
He was just shilling the Korean holomerch. Shot glasses being one of them.
Anyone who watches streamers, or godforbid influences, outside of hololive can chime in on whether hwikky shilling merch to 130 viewers is good in the sponsors eyes?
Obviously he's no hololive, but I don't even know at what level people start getting sponsorships and what's good results for the non-topdogs. Can I expect raid shadow legends and manscape for him next or was this more likely a pity sponsor

https://twitter.com/seapupu290495/status/1797596356435206306
is this the tweet that has the most number of retweets from the same chuuba? it has to be a record since i've seen Biboo retweet it for like 5 times already!

>>77716551
>they dont need to but if they want to start improving the technology would be a major first step
The problem isn't tech the issue is how to use said tech for content as people like Code Miko have shown that you could have the most advanced setup out there but still be boring as sin if you don't have anything else going on.

>>77716864
Because Hazuki is breathing behind Yagoo's neck. One wrong move and Hazki will take over the company as the next CEO

>>77716529
>strongest homobeggar
>didnt watch stream
FUCKING
KEK

>>77716693
That was me yesterday. I'm don't think I can survive one 3D stream for week.

>>77716678
Dodgers collab is only worth it if you like baseball, since that will be the majority of what you'll see there.

>>77716911
i can see ina asking for a fucking capybara joke model lol

>>77716661
>Are regular streamers innovating
I don't think so, but I don't watch them. "Streamers who are anime characters" was an innovation, and "vtubers who do idol activities as well as regular streamers" was too. In both cases they weren't competing with established brands but offering a new product that attracted a new audience.

>>77716709
Where's the tail? Part of the appeal is having that big fat juicy shork tail.

>>77716582
Fauna really showing her true colors.
I won't be surprised if she goes full Marine coomer core in a few years. You just know she represses herself.

>>77716995
>*some parts are omitted for illustrative purposes

>>77716812
>you have no reason to ever watch anything but hololive
Its because those companies and their talents make bad decisions not because they play video games, chat and do idolshit.

>>77716756
Towanipples my beloved

>>77716995