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dang, not even 10k yet

>>77699905
fuwamoco are going to raid flaygon so he'll win

>>77699905
>vs
>2 hours difference
????

anyway im watching the twins play minecraft and not any of these jobbers.

>>77700256
Lmao, good one

>>77699905
each fuwamoco pov is gonna mog both their ccvs combined

this Ethyria concert might not have numbers but it's pretty good bros

>>77700256
Can you imagine though?

>>77700251
Just checked, 30 minutes in and they hit 10k. I'm so proud of them for finally becoming 5views during their first 3D concert!

>>77701705
Yeah, I almost forget how evil they are.

>>77699905
If Flayon actually somehow beats this, I feel like my head would genuinely explode out of pure shock

>>77699905
>not even 11k viewers across the entire concert max
It's fucking over.

>>77699905
>3D concert
>Barely 11k
grim

>>77704204
Flay has a real chance of beating this.
Jesus fucking christ.

>>77704204
wait only 44 mins and not an hour? why though?

>>77699905
neither, I'm busy with the doggos

>>77704620
Because this was likely ment to be a panel sized concert.

>>77704419
>Flay has a real chance of beating this.
That will be wild asf. Like Flayon… really??

>>77704620
>3D is expensive
>15 minutes for each member
>missing member results in 15 minutes less

>>77704620
Because it's a concert meant to be used for a convention that kicked them out, likely with some stuff saying HELLO CONVENTION ARE YOU HYPED and some fake call/responses that got cut, bringing it down to less than an hour.

>>77699905
>flaygod
kill yourself faggot.

I didn't even know the ethyria concert was tonight. I knew of Flayon because the Faggots in # won't shut the fuck up about it and they themselves spam the catalog with.

>>77704620
This was supposed to be the OFFKAI concert anon

Where do non-jp nijis record their 3D or something small like this? Local/America or their own? Does nijisanji have their own 3D studio or do they rent Cover's? I read they have used it in the past multiple times

>>77706012
I doubt they recorded it outside of japan. For both of them.

>>77706012
Niji has their own studio, the problem is they only have one incredibly small one and at the end of last year they revealed that you basically had to do a lotto to even have the right to record anything in 3D.

>>77706145
And then they let one of the roflmao guys spend 4 hours in it walking on a treadmill.
And iirc in 2023 they fucked over everybody to spam voltaction 3D or something which flopped

>>77706145
Didn't they drop the lotto system? It's a popularity contents now

>>77706275
contest*

>>77704204
>Happy Pride
of course

>>77706275
so it's basically mostly Rof(L)mao using the studio? GRIM

>>77705024
Half hour before his 3D starts, currently 2k in the waiting room.
He'll probably pass 11k in his 3D, even without two raids from Fuwamoco.

>>77699905
I honestly forgot that was today, was watching Gundam SEED Freedom instead.

>>77699905
I’ll have fun not watching either of them

Flayon is going to get 10k

>>77706275
Maybe? I remember hearing that plenty of people took 3D off their plans for 2024.

>>77699905
I will watch your Homo 3D to spit on niji

>>77705136
HUH

>>77699905
only watching because i want niji to die and i know his will be cringekino like the other guys

>>77699905
Beats me I'm watching the VOD of Kanna's Pokemon card stream

>>77707035
Doubt it, Finana of all people got a slot, since she's going to Japan next week-ish

>>77708011
I'm talking about JP folks like Onoharu or Cammy.

>>77706275
So just Rofmao and ChroNoir? Nothing changes then

>>77708011
Looks like Riku is betting on EN revival

>>77699905
Enna made for anal
Millie made for Vaginal
Reimu made to do the laundry

>>77708153
I hope not. Niji needs to die and stay dead. EN needs to go at bare minimum so they stop fucking up everything over here.

>>77705024
I can't believe i'm going to watch Flayon.

>>77708255
>Multiple "big" projects including 3D concerts
>Putting EN ahead of JP in the 3D queue
Oh you better believe it anon.
Whether it'll be successful or not only time will tell
KEK WHO AM I KIDDING JUST LOOK AT THE EMPTY SEATS IN THE PEACOCK THEATRE

Machina Sex Flayon is here https://www.youtube.com/live/Bj5BVrDa89A?si=09svwhFUMZmp4l5R

opening with a song. That's a pretty strong start.

>>77706221
Leos isn't part of rofmao. Or was there someone else who did a walking stream?

>>77708153
And he'll stop that gamble the moment the investors tell him to stop throwing their money into the Rikutanic's boilers.

Already 7.6k. I'll post a picture of my sandwich if he doesn't beat them.

>>77708747
He isn't? I can't even tell anymore the difference between the nijis.

>7.8k
Welp this will be a waste of time

>>77708816
>Investors
dyrbi
I still can't wrap my head on how Riku was able to get Nikei to limit the sell volume on Anycolor's stocks.

>>77708942
8.7

>>77708942
>12:05
Anon...

>>77709022

>>77700256
Nah they literally hate holostars. They're streaming over him at the moment.

>>77708011
Multiple livers are. They're going to record for the AX 3D concert thing.

Okay Flayon might be a homo, but shit he sings well.

>9.5k
That is higher than the average CCV ethyria had, And he only started 10 minutes ago, God this is gonna be hilarious

>>77709411
Most of them are okay-ish singer beside Shinri and Bettel

>>77709411
I don't watch the homos, but don't they get similar idol training to what the girls get? Dancing and singing lessons and such. At least a lot more than what 3thyria got lmao

>>77709411
>>77709544
The ones that sucked left

>>77709544
I haven't heard Shinri sing, can I get some reference

>>77709411
Flayon's okay but Hakka's music choice and range is actually crazy good. Dude even does metal sometimes.

He may be a homo but the cringe/kino mecha stuff is nice, And he has that good 2000s dub voice which is nostalgic, Not bad

10k

>>77709678
got some homework to do I guess

>>77709661
Just listen to their gen song
>Always Tied

>>77709912
Fun fact. Hakka's done the same number of covers on his channel as Enna has. Enna debuted 2 years before him.
Of the homos, he's the only one I really watch for the music.

Ok what the fuck is the production value in his stage

>>77710134
Welcome to Hololive Production 3D concert sister.

>>77699905
Flayon seems like a good guy and he's always been friendly to Niji EN. I hope he does well.

>>77710081
... that's an incredible selling point, I can't believe I'm actually being convinced to check homos outside of kino offcollabs like the Four Swords adventures one.

>>77710223
>NijiEN
It's pretty much just Scarle

This is actually pretty kino.
I was only watching to help push him over the Niji concert.

>>77709892
Still

>>77710134
Not surprising really. Axel, Regis, Bettel and now Flayon all had better production values than Myth and Promise 3d debuts.

>>77710361

>>77709661
he is very monotone hes improved a LOT since debut but he still isn't "okay" still pretty monotone but a big improvement compared to the start

all this effort for a 10k shitter... grim
(meanwhile azki is gotting 13k while pushing some dumb rock)
so can anybody explain to me why homos even exist?

>>77709544
Bettel is actually pretty good at singing surprisingly

>>77710479
To make you seethe

>>77710479
Take it up with Yagoo unicuck.

>>77708563
It might have been successful if they did this all a full year ago. Instead, NijiEN management literally sat on their hands and did nothing to move EN forward for an entire year. After the whole AR Live cancellation (and Zaion termination, and their DMCA fuckups), management did nothing to try and fill the gap in activities for the year. Events? Nope. Tournaments? Nope. Maybe have some 3D debuts instead of paywalling them behind AR Live? Nope, and in fact Niji had NO 3D debuts during the second half of 2023. Instead, they let their self-inflicted wound continue to fester until it culminated with multiple livers graduating and Selen's whole termination at the start of the year.

>Rio
I was hoping he'd show up at Hakka's...

>>77710220
Yeah but this is Live concert quality, I was expecting StarsEN to get a tighter budget or something.
Also don't fucking compare me to one of those doxxing bitches,

>>77710479
Simple concept, The 13k watching AZKI would N E V E R be watching flayon's 3d debut, And likewise the 10k watching flayon's 3d debut would never be watching AZKI, Because both exist, Cover corp now has 23k people watching their talents and buying into their company as opposed to just 13k, THAT is why homos exist, Their numbers are small but they are UNIQUE numbers that none of the girls would have ever gotten, It just adds more to the overall market capture, It's why niche flavors of sodas exist even if they are unpopular, SOMEONE will buy that niche flavor instead of the main popular brand, and that money is worth the effort

>>77710479
>so can anybody explain to me why homos even exist?
Cussed there's a market for them, even if it's much smaller than the hologirl market.
They make decent money for the company(yes, they do), and there's an established and sloooowly growing audience for them, which is independent of the holos.

>>77710518
>>77710541
retards

>>77710653
feels great being subsidized by hololive girls

>>77710479
The cost maintaining vtubers are cheap as chips. There are literal 2-3 views on twitch who made streaming their careers.

>>77710587
Funny what happens when they kneecap the one person who organizes events and tournaments in their branch, isn't it?

How the fuck did Niji's singing unit end up almost losing to a homostar?

>>77710479
>HoloPro runts beat NijiEN golden 20 on a regular basis
why NijiEN even exist then?

One thing I always wondered and this involves a certain known botter cuck for Enna.

Why didn't they just dump their money on Enna streams since Niji's getting gold would piss off /#/ a lot more?

>>77711072
Hey, at least they did beat him

>>77711030
wanna bet that they are trying to organize an event, and didnt realize how big of a task it is? Doppio made an tournament with advice from Selen, and after the experience, he said he would not make any more big events. Funny how much wounds they inflict on themselves

>>77710653
They have to use their own money if they go over the budget Cover provides. It's likely at least some of them do so.

>>77711072
>>77711135
>Almost loss
>Beat him
>Ethyria's concert had 11k peak and 9k CCV Average
>Flayon's 3d debut currently has 10.5k CCV and it's only half way through while steadily rising
Keep coping sisters

>>77710759
>and that money is worth the effort
That's great and all but are they really tho? All those resources and studio time could went to pretty much any holo and get 5 or even 10 times more money/views/exposure whatever.
Cover slashed number of 3D lives holos get for this shit and that's the result...
Nevermind the fact that instead of debuting hololiveEN cover was shitting out this dudes which pretty much put EN branch into stagnation. It's fucking CRAZY. couple new EN gens at the tail end of covid would attract much more unique viewers than this fucking clown...

>>77710834
>They make decent money for the company
If they did it without literally LEECHING resources from girls it would be fine. But they do. And that's not fine.

>>77711135
Beating him, so far.
If they do end up beating him overall, wow, good job, it took THREE people to beat a homo.

He's fighting blindfolded with lightsabers, if you aren't watching.

>>77710986
Not when they are sharing same studio and staff with girls... How do you people not understand this?

>>77711324
I didn't mean to come off as a coping sister, I'd fucking LOVE to see him beat them. I just figured it was over cuz I don't watch homos.

>>77711332
> couple new EN gens at the tail end of covid would attract much more unique viewers than this fucking clown...
Guess which agency did that.
Guess what happened to that.

>Niji allots studio time preferentially
>People complain
>Holo allots studio time equally
>People complain
There really is no winning, huh?

>>77711472
He has a higher CCV than fuwamoco now lol

>>77709661
https://youtu.be/6q-9jPraTI0

>>77711135
sister, nijien's supposedly most musically inclined wave's concert barely beating (as of now) the runt of homoen is not the win you think it is.

>>77711596
motherfucker who gives a fuck when they unironically were debuting homos... how many did they do like 15 in a span of 1 year? meanwhile holoEN was getting fuck all. advent should've been debuted years ago

>>77711742
Oh no I understand, I just still find it shocking that’s all.

>>77711519
Yeah, it's unlikely at this point. I guess it was too much to expect of him, but ah well. At least 3/4 is likely to beat it, then if this is what Flayon gets.

He's at 10.8k at the 40 minute mark. He probably won't beat the concert, but he did get very close.
>>77711880
They did 8 debuts in one year. Tempus VG released 6 months after HQ did. It was supposed to be 6 debuts, to be fair.

The fact 3 Nijigirls 3d are very much the same as 1 homo's....

>>77711880
Advent wouldn't be advent without FWMC and they were still in their first gig as late as november 2022, So basically what you are asking for is niggersanji-esque ACCELERATE which uh... look at krisis TTT and denauth's numbers and tell me how good of a plan that is, hell look at illuna and xsolei and that applies too, Replace both gens of tempiss with girls and they would have been flops all the same (better numbers than homos but still no where near myth/councilRyS

>>77699905
Why does Flayon keep doing gay shit even in 3d

>>77712089
Because he is literally the twink bratty shota archetype and that is his appeal

>>77712089
It's good to note he's the only one of the guys who isn't a twink IRL, lol

>>77712167
>>77712199
I'm not gonna lie to you but Bettel had a better opening than whatever the fuck he's doing. Some of us are actually turned off by it.

did he show off that mecha tho? that's all I wanna know because I missed the stream by 40 minutes

>>77701705
>>77702235
>least obvious samefag sister

>>77712199

>>77711072
flayon's the weakest holostar

>>77712400
he did

>>77699905
>Psychopath Clique gen verses the Holo sex pest
Can I just cheer against them both?

>>77712301
He's always gonna act a bit gay lol. I think he's a theater kid
>>77712443
Literally this
>>77712547
That's Octavio, from Armis. He will probably also get 10k when he gets 3D.

>>77712592
Choose the lesser evil or they both consume you

>>77712008
>Sabotage the entire branch to push Enna as your big star
>Enna can't even put up Flay numbers
yikes

>>77712067
FWMC were applying to holoEN(and JP lol) from the fucking start they could've hired them at any moment
>So basically what you are asking for is niggersanji-esque ACCELERATE which uh
but they DID DO EXACTLY THAT
with homos
while leeching hololive resources
BECAUSE they were looking at nijisanji
and it ended up as expected
>Replace both gens of tempiss with girls and they would have been flops all the same
I don't agree. People asked for more hololiveEN for a while and got homos and homocollabs instead. Market was ready for new hololive gens. holostars EN should have never happened. HoloEN branch was in need of more members for 2 years until advent. I'd argue they still need more. NA hours are fucking EMPTY and also full of JP girls streaming in the morning. It's fucking pathetic. HololiveEN lost hype and viewers to indies and twitch streamers. All because omega fucked it all up. Very fucking SAD

>>77712400
yeah he did a funny skit with it

please let Hakka's 3d be at least like a rock concert for an opening... FUCKING PLEASE!

>>77710361
Thats a given though. When you have your 3D debut later than the girl you obviously benefit from the improvements in the tech that wasn't there when the girls had their debuts.

>homos
>nijis
jesas

>>77712788
Yeah, open it with screamo and he'd hook people.

>>77711619
The number of trolls and LARPers far exceeds the number of people who believe or even care about that shit.

>>77710361
Those are first 3D debuts with new fully staffed studio. We'll see how advent+regloss go. Their debuts should be even better and higher quality.

>>77712685
>HololiveEN lost hype and viewers to indies and twitch streamers.
>All because omega fucked it all up.
Nah they did it to themselves... Even if omegatroon was fired Kiara openly complains like a fucking bitch. It doesnt matter who gets fired they'll still end up the way they are. Advent stood up but Myth and Promise were a letdown.

>>77712844
it like a ghetto in here
>spits on floor
disgusting really.

>>77712815
I'm really hyped to see what Biboo is going to do in hers.

>>77711619
that's because people want FAIRNESS
and fuck over holo girls for homofailures is not fair

>>77712685
>all this seething because beryl didn't make it in

>>77712942
Fuwamoco better have the budget of 2 holos...
Who am I kidding, it'll be shared just like everything else.
...Or do you think they'd be horrific enough to separate the debuts?

>>77711489
OK then tell me this: what would the girls be doing instead with this studio time? Because if you're thinking it would mean more for the EN girls, it wouldn't. It'd be going the JP girls.

>>77712976
not really? ultimately it was management fault for hiring talents like that

>>77713094
Fuwamoco had 2 birthdays so they most likely will have 2 3D debuts.

>>77713090
>beryl
I literally have no idea who the fuck this is

>>77711619
damn its almost like niji fans and holo fans are completely different fanbases

You can tell how mad the sisters are that Flayon mogged the shitty Ethyria concert by how much they're seething.
You'd better get back to archiving Hex's sexpest ASMRs!

>>77713094
Didn't fuwamoco say their 3D debut won't be separate? Or was it the other way?
I think they were addressing it after hololiveEN concert announcement but I wasn't really listening
Inb4 homos were getting preferential treatment again with their 3D debuts... (actually they already do cause regloss has to do this whole 2.5kk subs shit despite getting much better numbers)

>>77711407
Not really.
HomoEN debuting so quickly in a single year is literally a strategic move. Remember, Homostars in general exists to be Cover's entry into the male vtuber market. They literally just have to break even, which they are. They exist to occupy the niche and take away viewers(and thus profits) from other agencies/indies.
Debuting more girls instead of HomoEN would cause the same scheduling problems for the 3D studio.
Quickly debuting sufficient amounts of Homos is to form a sufficiently large cast for group events to work out successfully. Its all strategic moves.

What a waste of resources homos are, can't even beat nijien post massive yab

>>77713500
Don't engage him, he's LARPing. Anyone actually that stupid would need machines to make them breathe because they'd be too dumb to do it on their own.

>>77713216
Oh sure blame management for everything, if it weren't for a proper recruitment process you wouldn't even get Fauna in Hololive... Be fucking grateful asshole

>>77713461
Wait he did?

>>77713467
They just said that the concert won't separate them.
But true. Fuwamoco always together.
I'm still amazed that Bae was able to separate them in Mindcraft, even if it was only for a few lines

>>77713589
No lol >>77713575

>>77713575
Its Flayon, why the fuck do I care? The runt of HQ got better numbers than he did

>>77713467
>preferential treatment
>because homos, who debuted earlier than Regloss, got their debut earlier
They're literally going in debut order.

>>77713112
ANNIVERSARY 3D LIVES WE WERE GETTING FOR YEARS BEFORE THIS SHIT.
Also they could use this time for casual comfy 3D streams we ALSO WERE GETTING FOR YEARS
Graduating all homos would improve studio situation tremendously. Shit's fully booked for year in advance

Fuck you
and FUCK OFF
> t'd be going the JP girls.
...and??

>>77713658
Ok I figured.

>>77713695
Holy shit you're seething so fucking hard kek

>>77713695
>Graduating all homos would improve studio situation tremendously. Shit's fully booked for year in advance
There are just as many girls in the company also booking for studio time. You would also seethe if your oshi didn't get theirs in time. Kill yourself fat cunt

>>77713575
All I see is a Toast Sandwich.

>>77713575
>>77713695
Making (You) seethe that much grant them the right to exist.
I can't believe it was this close when you look at his numbers.

>>77713671
Regloss has to beg and struggle to hit 500k for 3d while shitters like the homos can get it without any effort.

>>77713575
Only 6 more 3Ds to go, sis

>>77713500
>They literally just have to break even, which they are
shut the fuck up
They are using studio time AND in-house 3D artists and animators for their failure shit. All this resources could go to girls and their projects and 3D lives.
Nevermind the fact that they sabotaging hololive brand all the fucking time
>Debuting more girls instead of HomoEN would cause the same scheduling problems for the 3D studio.
I'm not talking about EN only. I want all of them fucking gone.
Now that would solve scheduling problems
>Debuting more girls instead of HomoEN would cause the same scheduling problems for the 3D studio.
Nothing about it was strategic. Omega saw nijimales success and thought he could do the same tho obviously it was impossible cause all their fucking numbers were from china. Fucker is gone for a reason.

>>77713575
>full force ethyria is barely 226 viewers over the twink
grim

>>77713695
Nope sorry, you either get biased decision making with preferential treatment or you get fair and equal treatment for everyone.

>>77714028
Retard. They said even in the announcement stream for that that they'd get 3D on that day no matter what. It was just a push for the sake of themselves and their own growth.

>>77713983
Wonder if they will lose to more random minecraft streams

>>77714053
>Nothing about it was strategic. Omega saw nijimales success and thought he could do the same tho obviously it was impossible cause all their fucking numbers were from china. Fucker is gone for a reason.
It feels like an all out war right now

azki is unbelievably bad at the rock game

>>77714264
>It came to me in a dream

>Muh Omegay
Omega was definitely a retard but damn, I wish I could live rent free like that faggot does.

>>77713861
>There are just as many girls in the company also booking for studio time.
what kind of argument is that? "just as many" homos are like 20% of all talents(also 12 vs 15 for ENs which is even more hilarious. No like seriously what the fuck?). 20 fucking % of leeches and failures

>>77714028
YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARDED THREAD SHITTER FAGGOT I'M SO FUCKING DONE WITH YOU, THIS WAS NOTHING BUT A FUCKING BIT OR ARE YOU A NUMBER MONKEY NIGGER SPREADING AS MANY LIES YOU CAN??????

>>77704204
>Happy Pride
Nijitrannies...

>>77714495
Calm down homosis.

>>77714202
>They said even in the announcement stream for that that they'd get 3D on that day no matter what
they never said that

>>77710834
>they make decent money for the company
sure, that's why they are no longer allowed to have unique merch and their merch has super limited stock because the company has zero expectations of it selling well according to Astel

>>77714053
>Nothing about it was strategic
But it is strategic.

>HomoJP survived for years with 3 waves(9 members) before Uproar's entry, total 13 members
>quickly debut 3 waves of Homos each, 12 members, 2 shit the bed, currently 10 members
10 members is about the number you need to make any group event work out.
And remember, this is HomoEN. Look at HoloEN, how often do they have 3D events? Not very.
HomoEN would have even lesser chances for 3D events beyond the annual countdown lives or Homostars anniversary. If anything, HomoEN is not even a problem for the studio scheduling.
They debuted all the EN Homos in a short time to quickly get the branch up to speed, and now that they got enough members, they don't have to worry about looking for more members unless someone really good comes by. HomoEN can now just coast along and fulfill their role of occupying the market niche.

>Holostars is bigger than NijiEN now
What the f*ck happened?

>vs FlayGod
Come now, comparing them to a certified Cover talent is not even fair. They have to clear this bar first.

>>77714553
They did. Hell, some of them even had it pinned to their chat that it wasn't a serious requirement for 3D.

>>77713467
I mean, I don't know what's up with the "get 2.5 million subs between them" thing, but they were getting their 3D regardless. Just feels like a dumb publicity thing that they didn't explain well since people still think their 3D showcases depend on them getting that number.

>>77713500
>Debuting more girls instead of HomoEN would cause the same scheduling problems for the 3D studio.
No one thinks about the actual people numbers and you can tell because they just repeat the same "if there were no EN guys the studio would be free" shit constantly. As it stands right now, if you just count the talents with 3D, it comes out to: HoloJP = 34; ID = 9; EN = 10 and Stars JP = 13; Stars EN = 6. 53 girls versus 19 boys. (If you wanted to count ALL the talents in Holo right now, the number would be: HoloJP = 39; ID = 9; EN = 15 and Stars JP = 13; Stars EN = 10, so 63 vs. 23.)

Just by sheer numbers, there's no way in hell the guys are the ones clogging up studio time, not by a county mile. It's all the JP girls. And people think that an additional 10 EN girls would clear studio space? Fucking idiots.

>>77714495
lmao text literally says "I need 500k for 3D"
Where's the bit? Where's the lie?
Can you show the text that says "it was just a bit lol"?

>>77714642
But...it lost to the suicide corpo?

>>77704204
>Happy Pride
How many time does it need to be written to become this large?

>>77714706
Its all the talents in JP hogging studio time, unicorns like to spin this narrative that all the boys are stealing studio time like monkeys flinging their shit

>>77714900
multiple girls have had birthday 3D lives postponed or cancelled because the homos had the studio booked at that time

>>77714937
Show proof faggot, other JP girls don't seem to have a problem with this.

ENTIRE HolostarsJP anniversary live also lost to nijien

>>77714706
why the fuck are we pretending that 1/3 is not a FUCKTON?

>>77714980
They really need to get rid of the male idol identity, clearly it's holding them back...

>>77714973
multiple JP girls have complained and had to cancel their birthday 3D lives because of studio time being booked you EOP retard

>>77715045
NTA but name the JP girls then to prove your point

>>77714769
I mean isn't the whatever group that had 3D live their most popular EN girls? And they almost lose to a one of the least popular star

>>77714642
Niji is the males corpo agency, even the new guy gets more views than the maid. Niji lost thousands of chinks fujos and yumes, that the stars boys wouldn't accept. I keep reading that at some point Bettel, Shinri, Hakka and Axel rejected them when they wanted favoritism and yaoi bits so based.

>>77715045
P r o o f n i g g e r
A link, a screenshot, a webm I don't give two shits.

>>77714980
grim lmao
at least venue was full of girls

>>77714578
Threadwatchers always have the most to say, yeah? Maybe spend a second looking into the merch they’ve been doing recently (Bettel’s birthday JUST happened, Flayon’s is ongoing), before spouting nonsense. It’s unique. And if you had paid any attention to the 5th anni jpstars live, you’d know it sold out and fans were asking cover to book a larger venue for the next one.
>>77714053
If your first argument is just saying “shut the fuck up”, at least it matches how much of an idiotic statement the rest of this is. Like other people here have said, stars fulfills a niche, and does so successfully. Scheduling problems ultimately come down to cover themselves and poor management. It’s unfortunate that the girls aren’t able to get certain slots when they’d like, but all this seething isn’t doing anything. The boys are doing well enough in the niche that they aren’t going anywhere, so go supa one of your precious “true hololive members”. Or maybe you’re just a poorfag who’s mad because he has nothing better to do?

>>77714980
Entire holostarsJP seems like it's going to beat fucking ChroNoir though with how bad their performance is going at AX.

>>77715045
so specify if it's homos or other girls and show evidence fag

>>77715093
No aside from Enna who had the chinese audience they are low 3views. The only other popular girls have left the corpo.

>>77714937
Stop lying faggot, it's public knowledge that Cover rents their studio to lots of vtbers, indies and corpos and non-vtubers corpos too.

>>77715191
That's like trying to sell a homoen concert in japan, it would be abysmal. No one outside japan cares about nijijp.

>>77714980
At least the venue was packed lol

>>77715396
Yes. That's what we're telling them.
Which makes it even funnier that ChroNoir's concert is still selling better than both NijiEN's concerts, as pathetic as all 3 of them are.

>>77715213
>Stop lying faggot, it's public knowledge that Cover rents their studio to lots of vtbers, indies and corpos and non-vtubers corpos too.
what? that's literally not true lmao

>>77713500
A company that seeks to expand their business and tap into a new market NEVER wants to break even, that's just shows terrible business foresight and no investor is going to be happy with this kind of outcome.
Also from a revenue perspective the homos are a failure purely from the aspect that if cover debuted gen 3 and then Advent as gen 4 a year after instead of tempus1+2+armis, they would've made a hell lot more money while using a lot less resources to do it, so technically homoEN didn't break even they were a gamble that ended up losing cover a lot of potential revenue.

>>77715396
Looks like no outside of Japan cares about NijiEN either >>77715423

>>77715213

>>77715487
and damaged brand name too LOL

>>77715213
Ok now you're just saying shit

>>77715130
>>77715201
>proof, proof, spoonfeed me
look this shit up I'm not going to compile a document to satisfy retarded homo fans

>>77715631
>got caught lying
>runs away
lmao

>>77715162
wasting resources on homofailures instead of expanding hololive brand is also "poor management"

>>77706433
>>77714499
>>77714787
???????????????????????
Go back to your leddit, troons

>>77715487
homoEN was never going to be a success when none of the popular HoloEN girls were ever going to acknowledge them or give them a leg to stand on. Even Luxiem only worked because Lazusydia had established a fanbase for NijiEN previously

>>77715472
Shigure Ui used it recently. What are you talking about?

>>77715631
Here, let me translate this: “I don’t have any proof that it was the homos and it was likely just other girls. Even if it was a Stars member, it isn’t like any of the talents would be able to say so on stream. My whole statement is retarded and I take it back.”

>>77715510
No shit sis the audience they got was all chink fujos/SEA/jp. Anyone else with a conscience also left after the black screen video.

>>77715631
Nigga wants to make everyone believe his rrat theory so bad even when it makes no sense kek

>>77715739
I agree, you should petition Cover to replace Yagoo with someone more business oriented like Riku sama

>>77715697
>lying
simply don't care enough about Homostars fans on /vt to comb through vods and find timestamps to prove to you retards what is common knowledge

>>77715816
This concert was in SEA tho?

>>77715860
>common knowledge
next you'll say "do your reps" when i call you out on being a retard

>>77715793
the talents literally can't say who it was but all you have to do is look at the timeline to figure it out it isn't some massive secret

>>77715921
And..they lost fans after the yab? What exactly is your "gotcha" here?

>>77715921
what very few people still supporting nijien are still from SEA/china, but a lot of them have left.

>>77715997
do you have any proof the Homos are NOT eating up studio time that could have gone to Hololive talents?

>>77715860
This is just getting pathetic. It’s clear you have nothing, so stop embarrassing yourself on the board.

>homos and nijis fighting over scraps in a race to the bottom

>>77715487
>no investor is going to be happy with this kind of outcome
The investors that Yagoo told to fuck off when they asked him to lower the cut of the profits the talents get?
>while using a lot less resources
The Homos are the least funded branch. For context, HomoEN's visual novel? That shit was done up by their own management staff. They didn't contract anyone for that shit, literally made it themselves because they couldn't afford it.
Any Hololive girl would use more resources than any Homo by virtue of being involved in much more events and requiring much more support staff.

>>77715787
sure she did retard
https://youtu.be/KcJuhOsu0iI
what are YOU talking about

>>77716105
>makes claims
>gets asked for proof
>"WELL HOW BOUT YOU PROVIDE PROOF TO COUNTER MY CLAIMS THAT I WONT PROVIDE PROOF FOR HUH!!!"
Kekelocalpse

>>77714578
>according to Astel

You mean according to retards on this board who interpret his words in the worst way possible and run with it? That's not what he said at all. Some of the concert merch sold out too quickly so he asked management if they could restock and they said no, but then they did it anyway. They stock their merch according to their fanbase's demand, and it always sells out.

Also they can have personalized merch again.

>>77715737
Sis I don't feel too good...

>>77716136
>any Hololive girl would use more resources
justifiably when they bring in 1000x the return financially
what point are you trying to make here exactly?

>>77715191
KEK Nijisisters can't win on any front

>>77716227
>Also they can have personalized merch again.
really? did they talk about why the changed happened and why they changed it back?

>>77716286
>olive garden
the fuck? what was going on in that 3d debut

>>77716130
kek the starsen uptick after wrestletuber is never not gonna be funny

>>77716105
>homos are taking 3D studio time away from the girls, girls have said so
>"when"
>YOU prove they haven't done that

>>77716227
>they stock their merch according to their fanbase's demand
very polite way of saying they barely stock their merch because there is very little demand
>they can have personalized merch again
probably only for a short time until the investors see how unprofitable it is again. They only have it again because the JPs publicly complained a ton about losing it

>>77716286
>Soon we troon
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>77716485
>until the investors see how unprofitable it is again
Then bossman can tell them to eat shit again

>>77716130
What happened to regular stars? Why is there such a hard drop recently?

>>77716607
only so much longer he can prop up his unprofitable pet project on the back of the actually successful branches until it's reeled back into obscurity with all of its funding taken away

>>77716485
>merch sells out all the time to the point that fans are asking for more
>unprofitable
lol
lmao even

>>77716605
Flayon's fanbase = Machiroons. Yes, that gets shortened to roons.
>hehe but i changed it to troons
Congrats. /mans/ tier humor.

>>77716683
They get a big boost from a big event, tourists check them out and realize they are bad streamers. Repeat for 5 years

>>77716687
Any day from now anon, just keep hating

>>77716687
Cover is not Anycolor. Go fuck yourself

>>77716687
This has been said for almost 4 years now but don't worry unicorn brother this year is most certainly our year of victory.

>>77716605
?????
It says Roon not Troon are you being retarded on purpose? Roons is short for machiroons, retard.

>>77716758
>Machi troon
LMAOOOOOOOOO
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
TROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN

>>77717212
>not a troon
Then expain this, troon
>>77715737

>>77716687
WORRY NOT, MY SISTER, THE PROPHECY WILL FINALLY HAPPEN IN…. TWO WEEKS.

>>77715737
>>77716758
>Machitroon
You cant make this shit up LOL

>>77716687
It took 3+ years for the series of trainwrecks Nijisanji's been going through to finally derail a single actually important car on the metaphorical train, even if Yagoo was doing everything wrong that he could possibly do following niji's example? We wouldn't see a crash for another 3+ years.

>>77716927
how exactly have Holostars taken off in the past 4 years? They're still absolute runts among male vtubers

>>77717345
Sis that's Goldbullet

>>77717252
>>77717405
You'll fit right in, fag
>>77707303

>>77717488
despite all of the controversies Niji has always been ran profit-first, it's why their merch is generic bullshit and the talents have virtually no say. It's great for maximizing profits and keeping the machine turning through all the controversy

>>77717364
>sister
>Homo hater
retarded?

>>77717517
Agreed my brother their demise is almost at hand

>Dudes behind anime avatars is the biggest existencial crisis to random people on the internet, in an annonimous image board.
Truly Magnificent.

>>77717636

just gonna leave this here for all the people saying tempiss aren't profitable or that enna somehow "mogged" the homos

>>77717701
>annonimous
anonymous*

>>77717710
Do not equate us with Niji filth, we are the true superiors of the vtubing universe

>>77717710
Nijisanji is dogshit too, I just don't want Hololive profits being used to prop up a sham branch and the whole Omegatroon attempt at Nijifying HoloEN made me resentful of the Homos as a whole

>>77699905
Sexpest vs Niji whores. Quite the battle there

>>77717731
good job posting the single profitable Holostars member, now let's see Flayon's revenue

>>77717731
ANON NOOOOOOOOO AIIIIEEEEE

You know what's funny. Many people still don't know that the main manager for the IDs, M-chan I believe is an LGBT advocate, specially for trans rights.

>>77717801
>I just don't want Hololive profits being used to prop up a sham branch and the whole Omegatroon attempt at Nijifying HoloEN
Reps.

>>77718049
>reps
did you miss the Tempus debut era or?

>>77716758
>majitroon
They are not even subtle at all, huh?

>>77715162
>Maybe spend a second looking into the merch they’ve been doing recently (Bettel’s birthday JUST happened, Flayon’s is ongoing), before spouting nonsense. It’s unique.
>It’s unique.
Lololo, the next 2 homo gonna have the same standardised merch. You just confirmed their existance is useless, they probably doesn't break even.

>>77718160
>gonna have
> they probably doesn't

>>77715487
Just a reminder the only existance of homo mention on cover report is that they debut more homo, no other archivement beyond that.

>>77717710
>They know Vox is losing subs and admit their tactic is to stir shit /here/
Man I really wish their shithole wasn't taken down, that just made thing worse honestly.

>>77717801
>and the voices in my head made me resentful of the Homos as a whole

>>77717939
>The single profitable holostars member
Axel and altare did more than bettel, Even the ACTUAL runtiest runt, Utsugi Uyu of UPROAR, got 4k on his 3d debut, And he literally still to this DAY 2 years later has not gotten 100k subs on youtube

>>77716758
Weeeeeeeeeewweeeeeeeee
TROOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNN

>>77718283
What's really funny is the uptick of "N-no I'm not a Nijisister! I'm a real Holochad!" posts after their nest was nuked despite that screenshot floating around since March

>>77716758
>falyon fanbase
>(real) troon
Fucking KEK really??

SOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN

>>77712067
NijiEN got over 30 members. HoloEN getting 15 isn't comparable. It would have also kept 2022 from being a shit show and we wouldn't have an investment in a continually cratering demographic.

>>77717939
>now let's see Flayon's revenue
Here you are. Not a big enough difference that I'd call it "mogging" and it's a bit early to call it since he seems to still be in the middle of his aftertalk, but he's definitely still higher than Enna.

>>77713500
>They exist to occupy the niche and take away viewers(and thus profits) from other agencies/indies.
Another group of girls early on could have choked out the larger section of the English vtuber market early on. Who has highly successful English males these days? Luxiem crashed.

>>77718580
>CAD vs USD
unless Enna is also in CAD she is still quite a bit higher

>>77714973
Okayu had to go to a different studio to get hers done last year.

FLAYGOD!!!!!!!
WEEEEWEEWEWEWEWEWE
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
TROOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>77717943
i need a proof for that so i can report this to cover and get her ass kicked

>>77718580
>CAD
Leaf... people here talk about revenue in either USD or Yen.

>>77716683
They're not good streamers. Anytime they get attention they lose it. Then you have people like Astel who derail themselves by mental illness.

>>77718580
It is lower than enna's but if you count the aftertalk which is still running and ticking up flayon is about on par with rosemi's numbers

>>77718580
Stop posting monopoly money, use real money.

>>77718160
Yes, their birthday merch is unique, good reading skills.

Seems like the trend for StarsEN 3D showcases is going to be the gen having the same piece of merch, but personalized (color/pattern/mascot keychain). HQ had rocks glasses in their own colors and stamped with their personal logo, as well as an extra for their own set (Altare with a drink marker shaped like his cello asset, Axel with a coaster that looks like a record).

>>77718728
Shit, I'm blind. Didn't notice that; here's his revenue in USD.

>>77716485
I didn't know you worked for Cover anon.

>>77718160
Literacy doko? It says birthday merch is unique, not the 3D celebration. The hard case is a standardized item that all of them are receiving, along with an acrylic stand. It isn’t half bad, but it isn’t what was being discussed. HQ had something similar.

Birthday/event merch has included; face towel, rubber ducks, wallet, plushies, phone case, water bottle, mousepad, bag, tin lunchbox, etc. Read what you put in the greentext, this information is readily available.

>>77717939
Most popular NijiEN girl vs most popular StarsEN boy. Seems like an apt comparison to me.
And before you go all
>but muh huge Pomu 3D revenue
She's no longer in the company because the shitty management & livers ran her off. You can't use her for your argument anymore.

>>77716385
No, he probably can't say that much.

>>77718908
>Seems like the trend for StarsEN 3D showcases is going to be the gen having the same piece of merch, but personalized (color/pattern/mascot keychain).
>same piece of merch
So color swap and pattern consider unique, who's your copium dealer kek.

>>77719209
>>77718160
>>77718160
That sound like a cope when holo 3d debut have unique merchs. Just admit it, they can't sell for shit and have been relegated to standardise merch.

FLAYGOD SAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWWEWEE
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>77718680
>Another group of girls early on could have choked out the larger section of the English vtuber market earlier
So you're agreeing that debutting enough members in a short time is very important to cover a niche in the market, which is exactly what Cover did with their rapid debut of HomoEN?

>Who has highly successful English males these days?
Which is why even a branch that breaks even is worth the investment. With NijiEN shitting themselves, which other big player is left in the male vtuber market? Thats right, Holostars.

>>77719651
This whole discussion is retarded because to begin with the ones who had confirmed straight from their own mouths standardized merch was StarsJP, not EN. This board always defaults to EN when talking about homos.

You know, I'll say it's truly saddening what happened to nijiEN, there have massive fuck-ups like finana's parasocial fucks + L + ratio, her sperguing at the words traps and futa, Reimu calling into Vox's date with his viewers, him saying he was not in a relationship with his them, the discord leak(Fulgur getting the most DMG here), Ethyria weren't really like the previous females gens, losing Nina, Mysta, Pomu, Zion and Selen termination that backfired, and whatever other fuckery that happened in EN. It is sad if I'm honest. Tard-Wrangling your assets is something that you must absolutely do.

Niji En was more popular than Stars by miles, they self-destructed. Sure, they still get way more thousand of VoD views, but Niji EN reputation is over. They can recover, let's be real, I have this thought they will try to regain fame by approaching the “family unity” style, new branches will come out saying they hang out off-line and IRL and that's something that can recapture old audiences tired of the coomer/yuri/yaoi bait and corpo/talents lies and fuck-ups, clippers usage will help with this.

>>77720143
Anon, you can't expect people to know that /here/ and even if they do, they just lie.

>>77721019
>clippers usage will help with this.
What clippers?
Niji's guidelines for clippers is god awful and scared off many clippers.

>>77699905
Don't mind me i'm just observing the lower castes having a slap fight.

>>77721019
>I have this thought they will try to regain fame by approaching the “family unity” style, new branches will come out saying they hang out off-line and IRL and that's something that can recapture old audiences
They've already tried this to no success. The new wave met up with many livers when they were all together in Japan back in February-March. Didn't help, the girls only have 1 Finana of viewership.
>tired of the coomer/yuri/yaoi bait and corpo/talents lies and fuck-ups
NijiEN is nothing BUT yaoibait and corpo & talent lies and fuck-ups. Look at Elira, look at Millie, look at Enna, look at Vox, look at Luca, and most of all: NijiEN management. There's no coming back from the damage that they (and a few others) have caused to the branch.

>>77716136
>The investors that Yagoo told to fuck off when they asked him to lower the cut of the profits the talents get
nta but I assume "it's a strategic move" is fucking nonsense to invest in a business for nothing in return. Cover is not a charity. When homos were clearly a failure cover doubled down meanwhile holoEN was in dire need of support. Suspend growth in your main market to find out that your expansion into a new market barely breaks even. Brilliant strategic move

>>77712844
we are losing recipes

>>77699905
This entire thread is two retards fighting

>>77704620
They need to be able to run ads like its a tv show.