/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

she's joining v4m

>>77632376
mint doesn't need a corpo retard

>>77632376
>.the Idol dream is over.
Fucking good. Calling yourself an idol just means attracting trailer trash like yourself as fans.

Has a 4view ever joined hololive, let alone holoEN?

>>77632376
>With the advent of Hololive English Second Concert the teaser for EN4 is extremely High.
Didn't cover say no new gens or something to that effect?

>>77632589
Ssshh Quiet Sister, the real Humans are talking

>>77632376
OP you're a retard.
Nothing stops Mint from continuing to apply once she's in vshojo, if she even wants to. Hell, even If EN4 doesn't work, there's EN5 or EN6.
But still none of this matters unless she's actively applying, which we can't possibly know about unless she tells us.
Calm your tits and just be happy with whatever she decides, or support her if she doesn't make it.
The dream only ends when you give up or settle.

>>77632745
Yes, but that doesn't mean there are no talents that are coming this year.

The ones coming this year or early next year might be the ones who have already been prepared and trained.

>>77632376
>our girl

Mint was always going to vhojo.

>>77632636
I don't about streaming views but Mumei has 1 mil subs on YT. Gura had millions of views on her songs.

>>77632376
>we do not know what the landscape of the Vtuber sphere will look like by then.
I'll tell you. Everyone is going to be doing the same shit that they do now until viewers get tired of it and stop watching. Then we'll look back at these times and think "Remember vtubers? Remember Hololive? Those were good times... I miss those times..."

>>77633171
gura and mumei were 3views at best when they streamed and gura even touched 2view sometimes

Mint is absolutely 100% going to Vshojo. I don't know why people are still in denial about this.

>>77632376
>This means that our girl Mint didn't make it as her thing with Matara will lasts until the end of Summer meaning EN4 may have been announced and debuted by then.
So what you're saying is she didn't even apply.

>>77633329
streaming wasn't that big for vtubers back then and 3 view was big especially for en vtubers.

>>77632930
Your the retard here big faggot!

You ain't being realistic also read the entirety of the post! It explains why she will not be in EN5.

If fucking Kson who was an Idol joined Vshojo after a year of being Indie cuz her funds are being drained and she lacks connections and resources, what makes you think that a big Idol fan who watches Idol concerts constantly will not run out of money first?

>>77633458
>Your

>>77632636
Polka, i think

>>77632376
I'll admit it. I was a holobeggar because she was being such a doomer and I just couldn't bear to see her that way. She's in a much better state now though so I'm happy with her being mint.

>>77633437
No you faggot! It's clearly Kiara not doing her Job to Nepohire her.

EN4 is a myth.

>>77633441
that and they focused more on vod than streaming

>>77633670
No, that's the first EN gen.

Mint isn't going to join any corporation anymore after what happened last time.

>>77632745
No, read the statement. They did not say no new talents, they said they will be focusing on developing existing ones. That doesn't mean they won't ever hire more, it just means their priorities have shifted to supporting the current gens.

>>77633957
You sure?

>>77634083
Vshojo is more of an actual, real agency than a vtuber corpo.

>>77632376
>It's over?
No? She'll still be able to be Mint and that's all I want.

>>77633957
Sure Nijinigger, keep telling yourself that.

Former Idol Kson lasted a year of being a struggling Indie before she caved and joined Vshojo for Support and connections.

And you saying the the MGS brainrotten, constantly Attending Idol concert Mint fantome will stick around as an Indie for a year? Don't think so pal

>>77634083
I hate to admit it, but there is no clearer way to say "Just waiting on my model to be finished" than this

I was hoping she really was in EN 4

>>77634283
Kson joined Vshojo exactly 1 year after she left Holo. Obvious non-compete clause.

>>77632376
She's fine without a corpo. Go fuck yourself holobeggar

>>77634299
same, but at the same time I was never all that invested in her as an idol anyways.
Now, what I think would be fucking HILARIOUS would be if she ends up going into business with Doki and they end up forming the western Neo-Porte.

>>77634068
Stupid faggot.

Do you even understand why they even say that? During Q4 it is reported that their Costs and revenue aren't as far apart as they should be thus their ruining their growth potential.

Since the ones that generate big money for cover are Merch sales and Live events they are not going to cut those down, so instead they will reduce the hirings of new talents to save money and Increase revenue

What the fuck is wrong with being a indie? I like it the way things are. Fuck you gas lighting faggots

>>77632376
Good. I don't want to watch her graduate again.

>>77632376
She's fine as it is.
She was even happy to watch the Hololive concert.

>>77634299
She's going to slut it out and resort to fleshtubing like the rest of them.

For someone like Mint, she should stay indie unless Cover's willing to hire her.

>>77634886
Things never stay the way they are forever.

>>77634886
She can do whatever in Vshojo so nothing's going to change

>>77632376
En4 won't be announced until the concert, very end of August. Won't debut until late September. Not saying she's in for sure but the timeliness works out fine

>>77632376
>EN4 before ID4
you clearly dont understand how hololive works

>>77632376
>Still trying to join a corpo when you've already established your own indie brand and can stand on your own
why bother?

Is this just corpo cock sucking in here? Do you care more about the company’s getting vtubers? I’m new to the vt shit as a boomer but as long as she’s happy and keeps playing bibeo games who cares?

>>77636199
Being an indie 3view is great but being an indie as a big 4view kinda sucks. Once things like merch and events stop being pleasant surprises and start being expectations, you really want to start having a team of people doing shit.

shes already in vshojo guys

>>77636199
>wants to sing on stage
>hololive offers the biggest event for vtubers

>>77636523
That first one… maybe the list is fake and gay

>>77636236
As an indie watcher I don't care if they join talent management agencies that treat them as clients, unlike media companies who would treat them as employees

>>77636664
That was before their original good management left and got replaced with Luxiem dickrider fujosisters

>>77632376
If you actually watch Mint/Pomu, you'll know that she doesn't want to be called an idol.
She's an idol fan, a wota through and through, which is different from being an actual idol.

>>77637482
retard

>>77632376
Connect the World was on July 2, Advent debuted slightly less than a month later.
The new concert is on August 24-25, Mint's podcast with Matara ends in September.
I guess maybe EN4 could debut before the concert, or Mint's schedule is too busy otherwise to prepare for joining, but it doesn't seem to be ruled out by the dates at all.

Literally no actual mint viewers are pulling for her to go to Hololive, we just want her to be fucking happy. She's clearly thriving as an indie, neck yourself.

>>77637028
>The manager who helped them collab with BeatMario as a surprise for Pomu got replaced by the manager who wouldn't even let her fix her 3D model.
Nijisanji is such a piece of shit.

>>77634527
Doki is already the head of a small corpo in all but name, complete with her own team of experts in management, webstore tending, event negotiating, and merchandise procurement. Her existing team is large enough that they could probably support several Vtubers, and she's already shown us that she can handle a yearly cash flow of $200k while keeping her commisioned artists well paid and herself in good standing with them. Believe in DokiCorp.

>>77637482
why is she pushing that characterization? Wotas are disgusting as fuck. Soon she will be pushing her audience to do watchalong of flesh idol concerts like a retard

>>77638379
>Soon
So you know nothing about her, got it.

>>77632585
Doki doesn't need a corpo because she'd rather just do everything freely by herself and she has friends in high places. Mint nearly devolved into a grocery worker after the structure of a corpo was lost.

>>77638379
>Soon
Kys newfag
All proper wisps are following Mint and learned wotagei, we love wota culture here

>>77632376
She and Doki should have taken over kawaii already
the pigs pay for the 3D and concerts and she already has friends there

>>77638700
Mint nearly devolved into a grocery worker because Nijisanji sucked all the joy and fun of vtubing out of her. Management telling her No on so many things made her think she was worthless and didn't belong. If anything, the corpo structure is what made her leave in the first place.

>>77638299
Yeah but it's still too new to expect something like that. She's barely holding her own shit together right now and still missing some key staff positions.
Mint might not be able to wait that long, depending on how long a vshojo contract lasts.

Vshojo are also idols

>>77638594
>>77638832
so you retards are fine with being shoved disgusting flesh idol stuff by her?

>>77638700
Mint was always capable of shining on her own. She just needed to recover from PTSD

>>77639811
I don't think they care. They just want Mint to be happy and to put out good content, which is the healthiest kind of fan relationship you could ask for.

>>77639811
Retard this retard that how about you shut up

>>77639811
That's the best part!

>>77640609
I now see the appeal for shareholders.

>>77632376
>teaser for EN4
You idiots don't even do research, look at the financial report lmao

>>77636523
just wait for doki throw together another all Indie concert?

>>77641054
It'll never reach the same scale.
Though I don't know enough about pomu or mint to know if she cares. She might be happy enough with a car show or a smaller venue. If that's what could satisfy her though... I honestly would put my money on Doki being able to make it happen sooner on a larger scale than Vshojo.

>>77634715
Reduce hirings does not mean no new hirings stupid faggot. Read the fucking report and stop getting your talking points from an anon splurging out a single sentence. Especially since the fucking blurb on the "focusing on building current IP" is like 4 sentences in length. Shouldn't be too fucking hard cunt

>>77641644
cope

>undergoing training as we speak
>Mint is "taking classes" in japan
odd

>>77634715
How does hiring people COST money? Isn't that the reason Nijisanji bloats out a huge roster, to profitmaxx? More vtubers = more money

>>77641810
>mint goes corpo again
>mint and Matara are joining as the pair audition for Nijisanji JP

>>77638700
You're retarded if you think someone who's earning 6 digits from streaming will leave it all to earn minimum wage managing the till while a karen screams at her because someone told "she's bad without them"

>>77641893
Nijisanji can pull it off because they don't support any of them.
Holo actually supports everybody, so they have to be a bit pickier. That said, Mint would absolutely make her invested money back in seconds, so if she doesn't get in, it's not because of money and would likely be for whatever other things cover searches for at that time.

>>77642014
More specifically she wanted to work in a maid cafe or something. She just wanted some stories to tell when she redebuted, but Matara convinced her to stream instead

>>77642087
I mean she's just below holo-tier as things are. It's such a safe pick you almost can't lose. Might as well have at least one safe pick in your gen so you don't end up with an ILuna disaster.

>>77641810
She finished her classes in March, she went back to the US in April

>>77641893
Because Nijisanji is a black corpo which barely pays their chuubas

>>77642247
but she left to japan a week ago and won't be back for another week

>>77641766
Aww I love when the response you idiots default to when given facts is always cope. Get fucked

>>77632376
They could be teased but not actually-out yet for like half a year or something. I dunno why but Advent still feels pretty new to me and I'm not clamoring for a new gen yet (although I suppose I wouldn't mind one). Considering how fucking long it took to go from Council to Advent I wouldn't think EN4 is already cued up to roll out but I could see it as part of an aggressive strategy to stamp out nijiEN for good to not let them come up for air. Thing is even if that was the idea, it turned out to not be worth worrying about because nijiEN is sinking by itself anyway.

>>77633556
I fucked you're oshi.

>She's totally joining Hololive guys!
>She's not joining Vshojo
>She's totally never not ever joining Vshojo!
>There's absolutely no evidence or any reason to think she might join Vshojo

>>77642750
At this point, she's either joining vshojo or staying indie in the near future.
The cope for either though is that Vshojo shouldn't prevent you from JOINING hololive. They don't seem to take much if you leave, either.
But once again, all of this comes down to if she wants to try to join holo or not.

>>77642750
that doesn’t make any sense. mint is pretty seiso, and vshojo is full of whores. like, actual whores like projekt melody. And I say this with all respect to melody, I really like her content. But I don’t really understand why mint would want to full on join their corpo.

>>77642868
She's not going to join Hololive. Nijisanji burned her on ever wanting to work for a JP corpo ever again.

>>77642978
and before people dogpile me with
>mint is not seiso, you do not know what you’re talking about
I know she’s a lolicon and likes lewd stuff. Still seems a mile away from vshojo tier

>>77642978
>mint is seiso
half of her ghost trick vods is her talking about hentai

>>77643126
projekt melody is literally full on porn dude, as in like hour long videos of her getting fucked by a machine. I don’t see it

>>77643376
Yeah but Henya's there.
The big difference I can see with vshojo is that they're not really a corpo in the same way the others are. They're more of a coalition or just a management group like mythic rather than a cohesive glue that forces everybody to stay in the group. Several of them just do whatever they want without ever really interacting with the rest of the group. So it doesn't really matter if Melody is a literal camgirl and Henya can't even talk about erections without turning into a tomato.

>>77643563
true and fair

>>77643376
Geega will literally ban you for lewding her and she fits the group pretty well.

>>77643069
>she’s a lolicon and likes lewd stuff. Still seems a mile away from vshojo tier
Damn that's crazy dayo

>>77643733
Geega is a fucking anomaly from what I've heard.
She sounds so well put together that she doesn't belong in this whole industry.

>>77644009
Yep. Point being, it would be strange to hear Geega talk about her taste in hentai or something of that nature and she interact with Melody and the rest fairly often, not really weird or anything. I personally dont think Mint is joining, but its not like she would not fit in.

>>77636523
>sing the opening song for an eroge
She ain't doin' that in Hololive

>>77634216
>make a event featuring all members
>""agency""
They a vtuber corpo despite anyone coping, an agency would be like mythic. Everyone are their own agency and have freedom doing thing independently without those mandate promotion event featuring other members.

>>77645651
She couldn't pull it off in Niji, either...
Come to think of it, the only thing she pulled off was 100k subs. That's... kind of sad. And sort of the former. A lot of people loved Niji because of her, but now they hate it also because of her.

>>77642300
Yeah that's called a vacation you fucking idiot

>>77634216
>make a event featuring all members
>""agency""
They a vtuber corpo despite anyone coping, an agency would be like mythic. Everyone are their own agency and have freedom doing thing independently without doing those mandate promotion event featuring other members.

>>77645736
It's like a weird halfsies thing. It's really hard to compare vshojo to something like holo, niji, phase, whatever the fuck brave is doing, etc. Vshojo doesn't really focus on production so much as just general management and support, from what I've seen at least.

>>77643376
OK? She's literally the only one in VShojo that does that.

>>77645872
It's more that VShojo is a talent agency, and the rest of them are production companies calling themselves agencies.

>>77645768
Nah she got to sing on stage with Niji senpai at NijiFes, and there was a NijiEN Girls doujin at comiket (note this isn't h-doujin, just regular doujin).
Management screwed her out of the idol group collab tho.

How the fuck did you manage to create an ex-niji catalog bait thread that doesn't have sisters sperging out?!

>>77632376
There's no EN4, anon.
Yagoo said their priority is to strengthen the talents they already have.

>>77632585
>mint doesn't need a corpo retard
That's cool, but I still would have liked to see her on a big stage.

>>77646689
Because Mint got disowned basically after re associating with Dokibird so she is no longer "their chuuba".

>>77647177
Fucking duh. What i'm asking is why aren't they attacking her

>>77647426
They are, but they prefer to do it more directly. Like leaving 1 dollar hatemail streamlabs, according to one of her streams. I'm sure it's gone up since then.

>>77632376
Your pathetic rrat crumbled the moment you mentioned 'EN4.' Not this year, retard. Interest rates need to rise first.

The economy isn't ready, and current talents haven't hit their peak market potential. Hololive won't self-sabotage like Kurosanji does.

>>77647525
Her future doesn't concern them, there's no angle to attack her on the basis of joining a company or staying indie. The worse you'll from what I've read is her failing whether joining or not and smearing her character whatever she decides. This topic mostly goes to shit over beggars.

>>77648064
nah, there's been a bit of people who flipped on her for showing up to wrestletuber. Especially the elira pomu shippers who've been on suicide watch themselves.

>>77648159
Not in these bait topics, usually the much stronger bait ones that rope her in with Doki.

>She must be in my tribe
>No my tribe
Oh fuck off

>>77632376
no shit, mint and mata even said they could start the podcast back up if they wanted, it was just something they had been wanting to do for ages. The date had nothing to do with any kind of try out for anything. Giving it an end date means they can bring it back for "holiday specials" and shit as they put it. Was largely a reason to help mint get into doing something again since she was so burnt from Niji that Mata wanted to give her things to do as a vtuber again since she was ready to be done with it.

>>77646689
/vt/ loves Mint, durr

>>77632930
>Nothing stops Mint from continuing to apply once she's in vshojo, if she even wants to. Hell, even If EN4 doesn't work, there's EN5 or EN6.
holy fucking cope, I bet this poor motherfucker is still waiting on pikamee

>>77632585
That's what some ex-Niji say until they show up reincarnated a few months later.

>>77650726
Who?

>>77645844
>an agency would be like mythic. Everyone are their own agency and have freedom doing thing independently without doing those mandate promotion event featuring other members.
>esl shilling mythic as a real agency over vshojo
SEAfag, 2view indy shitter, or both?

>>77650726
She already "reincarnated" tho. As an indie.

>>77650607
Pikamee's joining EN8. Trust.

>>77639811
Vtubers as idols do not exist without flesh idols you retard. That's what the idol industry is built on.

>>77641376
>I honestly would put my money on Doki being able to make it happen sooner on a larger scale than Vshojo.
holy kek

>>77642300
She was in a hotel with mata last time she tweeted

>>77642978
>that doesn’t make any sense. mint is pretty seiso, and vshojo is full of whores. like, actual whores like projekt melody. And I say this with all respect to melody, I really like her content. But I don’t really understand why mint would want to full on join their corpo.
there is literally nothing I've heard mint say in the past 2 weeks alone that made her seem even the tiniest smidgeon more "seiso" than anyone currently in vshojo. It's like people trying to protect Henya and then Henya tells them off saying "I didn't change, you didn't watch me closely enough"

>>77632376
Mint is God damn miracle of the entire multiververse and I will brutally murder anyone who disagrees.

>Mint loves the idol production company DearStage
>Many of her favorite idol groups are part of DearStage, including Dempagumi.inc, Niji no Conquistador (>>77640609), and Sayonara Stay Tuned
>The founder of DearStage, and the long-time producer of Dempagumi.inc, is Fukushima Maiko
>Fukushima Maiko, aka Mofuku-chan, is VshojoJP staff: https://twitter.com/mofuku/status/1548168013958254592
>Mint joining Vshojo would get her almost direct access to her favorite idol groups
Joining Vshojo could give Mint the idol collab that Nijisanji denied her. So much for "idol dream being over".

>>77651733
>mint goes to vshojo
>gets the idol collab of her dreams
>doki goes to hololive and finally collabs with sanrio

>>77651733
Given how quickly vshojo gets 3d for it's talents there's nothing stopping mint from going the idol route, vsj did that concert that one time and mint could go the ame route and make bootleg concerts with a home 3d setup

>>77632376
Your whore is not welcome in Hololive, she didn't cut it back then, she definitely won't cut it now
Please take your used goods ex-nijinigger elsewhere, I wish you the best of luck but I think you will find it better to simply come to terms she will never be an idol

>>77654672
>she will never be an idol
She already is though.

>>77632376
She's going to join vshojo

>>77632376
We all told you if shes gonna join up with another group that it would most likely be Vshojo she was never going to join up with hololive who can be just as autistic jap retarded as nijisanji with some of the things they do to talents

>>77645651
Sister... there's a limit to how ignorant you can be

I'm a holobro and I'M surprised Minto hasn't joined shojo yet. But then again, I'm of the golden path hopium that:
>Mint joins shojo
>drags Doki along
>whoreshojo allegations start fading
>megannouncement
>holo/shojo event
>its a concert crossover
>Doki/Mint/Moom/Wawa all sing together
>huge success
>Kanatan/Kchon duet

I can dream, alright?

>>77632376
Nobody wanted mint in hololive but mint leech fags and kfpiss.

>>77632849
>real humans are talking
>first thing that come out his post is the typical npc tier response everyone on this shithole board uses when they're defeated.
Retard.

>>77656312
Doki can't join. Indie is the perfect space for her to go all UNITY since she'll be impartial to all corpos.
I'd like Mint to be her happy nerd self wherever she goes, but I'd imagine Doki's perfect where she is right now if she wants to unite all the vtubers and lift everybody from everywhere up at once.

>>77633458
>You ain't
Esl

>>77656312
Has Ironmouse even mentioned Dokibird yet? She was strangely silent about the whole drama thing.

>>77634431
And she was doing better as an indie.

>>77656400
>if she wants to unite all the vtubers and lift everybody from everywhere up at once.
Sounds like Kson-tier nonsense. She must have one hell of an ego.

>>77632745
They said they will have multiple new debuts this year, but that they'll start focusing less on debuting more talents and more on supporting the current ones, so the assumption is that this (fiscal) year's debuts will be the last ones for a while.

>>77656543
cry about it nijizhang

>>77634283
Struggling? She was swimming in money retard.

They will announce ID4 not EN4 you fucking idiots. Why do you think world tour is just SEA and US?

I'd cast my blessings for her, but unfortunately, she's an mgs grifter that should just play cod instead.

>>77633458
Kek kys seanegro

>>77633329
I really doubt these companies consider ccv over subs/views for indies. That would be more on the indie herself to consider

>>77656480
There's nothing strange about that silence. They were not friends or collabed even while she was Selen. I guess she held herself back from outright shitting on Nijisanji one time but that's about it.

>>77641376
> Doki being able to make it happen sooner on a larger scale than Vshojo.
lol
Also Doki doesn't care about idol stuff. Mint just has to save up and do her own little 3D model concert for her fans if she wants since some indies do that

>>77655253
PL/RM activity is not Hololive

>>77645651
Ehem.
Not just opening, you could be the actual heroine as well with Hololive connection.

>>77657300
What the fuck is a "mgs grifter"? This buzzword has officially lost all meaning.

>>77658902
>eroge

>>77632376
mint is not joining hololive, she has no fucking talent, kill yourself niji refugees

>>77659381
More talent than your oshi

>>77659566
and this is why we don't want her or her fans. you can take the nigger out of niji, but you can never take the niji out of the nigger.

>>77632376
I don't believe that joining Holo is the move for Mint. Dealing with corpo shit only for couple of big stage events per year does not make much sense.
Depending on her goals joining vshojo is also not her best option, since Gunrun's manner of running his ship even less favorable for traditional idol stuff. Monetarily though, Vshojo is probably her best option, they are excellent at extracting Twitch gooners money.
If she ever decides to truly pursue her idol dream she would have to organize idol unit of her own.

ID4 is next retards. EN4 is either late 2024 or more likely 2025.

>>77659381
Hololive is a dying company that has 0 growth left
You'd be a retard to join a company that is on the brink of stretching too thin

>>77661178
but enough about nijisanji en

>>77661220
NijiEN is dead
HololiveEN is on the brink of dying which is a big difference
Let's face the fact that the vtuber market has been slowly shrinking ever since the audience boost from the pandemic
Debuting another gen is another money sink to them and hey will even be less popular than Shiori and her numbers are already atrocious

>>77661357
cope if hololive is dying then everyone else is long dead rotting in the pavement or being recycled as poop by the rrats that gnawed on their corpses

>>77661460
This
Hololive needs to realized that they already maximized their niche and growing beyond that will hurt the quality of their service
Unless they can produce a Gura every 5 years they will face a rude awakening once the 5 year mark happens and she moves onto other ventures

>>77660393
>since Gunrun's manner of running his ship even less favorable for traditional idol stuff.
Care to explain what you mean by this?

>>77659776
You walked right into that one, you arrogant hypocritical faggot

>>77632376
I BELIEVE

>>77661460
Hololive has been falling as a fraction of the scene for a long time and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future because everyone else (except Niji) is growing faster than them. They're not "dying" though, they're doing fine, it's just that there's no longer a monopoly/duopoly but rather a ton of smaller corpos and a thriving indie scene.