/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She doesn’t show off her ass enough

>>77544050
She's not a vtuber anymore and she doesn't really collab with anyone in Vshojo anymore as well.

>>77544050
>bait and switched the audience that made her big
can't imagine why

>>77544238
She is collabing with them right now you knuckle-dragging troglodyte.

The bots don't work on non react streamers

>>77544318
And the other 99.99% of the time, dishonest nigger?

>>77544050
Her branding is poor. Like, what even she? Some random Japanese chick? There's like 60 million of those.

>>77544050
Her audience is mostly japanese. Why would they want to watch her stream in english with other people streaming in english?

>>77544426
This isn't a freak occurrence. You don't know about any of it because you're talking out your ass.

Nobody raids her, raiding is the lifeblood of twitch and she just doesnt get any for some reason

>>77544050
go back

>>77544050
a 5-month smear campaign by tribalist holofags and zhangs tarnished its image

>>77544826
Guess they really hated that bitch after all...

>>77544238
Nobody in Vshojo collabs with anyone in Vshojo much.

>>77544826
That is pretty weird. I wonder why not.

>>77544826
She gets raided every chance she gets but hardly anyone sticks around. I remember she even has a 600s timeout bot for raid messages. She's not even trying anymore.

>>77544050
She never streams on Twitch

>>77545791
>She gets raided every chance she gets
that's now how raids work

>>77545791
I had a whole ass post written, but then I decided to actually check the fucking numbers. I guess she just hasn't been streaming as much since July so her numbers went down. The number one way to grow on twitch is consistency and if you don't stream as much, it's bound to fuck your raw viewer numbers.

>>77544426
>refuted red-handed
>calls someone else dishonest

>>77544050
Wow who would've thogut that the people who follow her for her VTUBER life, all left because they don't care for Fleshstreams, a mystery for sure.

>>77546344
What vshojo's "talent freedom" does to creative people in the long run

>>77546575
she was sick you retarded ape

>>77544050
the slut got what she deserved

>>77546664
Sick of vshitshow's bullshit

>>77546673
>the slut got what she deserved

>>77544050
Tatsunocucks were mostly reddit tourists. You might as well ask why holoen in general went from easily having tens of thousands in 2021, to having only Gura truly be a heavyweight in 2024. Holoen and Kson were both reliant on tourists, vshojo's normal numbers are reflective of the actual pool of twitchtards willing to watch people sleep wearing an anime face.

>>77546664
Yeah, that explains everything then.
If she took too many breaks, her numbers went down. They'll recover with time and enough advertisement/shilling/collabs.

>>77546804
sinusitis and covid19 in between 2 convention appearances but go off sister

>>77546830
So Coco still being n°2 on superchats got all of this just from tourists ?

>>77544050
she is boring, for better or worse, the battle between her and management gapve better results

>>77546895
if you want the actual non-schizo reason, she's primarily a jp vtuber streaming an english collab at 8am on a weekday.

>>77546913
vsisters projecting once again
Go masturbate to connor or something

>>77544050
>Kson
Still too many.

i see the vsj+ roaches have come crawling out of the woodwork
this thread should have been over when it was (correctly) mentioned that she basically doesn't vtube anymore and that was the audience she got big off of
hardly matters anyways, she got what she wanted most, to be in a yakuza game, so its not like she gives a damn either way

>>77546830
huge mental gymnastics just to avoid admitting that the majority in holo are corpofags.

>>77546942
she is not Coco, and her product doesn't Coco's either

>>77547087
cut4hex idiot lmao

Doesn’t she basically own part of vshojo now

>>77547062
...Yeah that'd do it. That's not even a euro friendly time slot for weekdays.

>>77546942
The fact none of you cuckolds are watching kson now makes you literally a tourist, you saw the attraction and maybe paid for a shoutout and then fucked off. That is literally what a tourist is.

>>77545791
>hardly anyone sticks around
The data says otherwise

I keep forgetting Kson exists, /vt/ is the only thing that reminds me of her existence

According to /#/, the numbers of Twitch are worth 6 times more than those of Youtube.
This means that Henya is more popular than Gura and Kson is more popular than Mori.

>>77547270
Vsister projecting again, not watching Ironkek unless the cuckmaster is here

>>77547558
>>77547200

>>77547449
maybe 6 times less because of the encouraged botting

>>77547449
I don’t even use /#/, but for some reason I don’t think they actually say this

>>77544050
Twitch is not her main platform. Her Twitch streams are infrequent which harms her growth on Twitch.

Simple as.

>>77547644
nah he's right. majority NA/EU audience vs. majority SEA.

>>77546344
She's a youtuber for the most part iirc

>>77544050
Nips don't like Twitch. When she streams on Youtube she gets big numbers. Rushia was the same. When she streames on Twitch she only got like half the viewership she had on youtube.

>>77547632
Yeah you're right, she's leeching all of twitch now

>>77547718
She doesn't get numbers on YouTube either.

>>77547961
you keep uploading images but none are a pic of your tits.

>>77547763
cope ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

12 minutes of waifus ? No time for that
CONNOR IS HERE ? YABBA DABBA DOO

>>77547763
poor twitchsimp

>>77548011

>>77548060
I'm not an obese cuck so I don't have tits, sorry about that, lesbian troon, I guess froot is friendly to people like you in vshojo at least

>>77547961
>>77548095
>>77548271
uh oh melty

>>77548346
Man I'm glad vshojo is still around, it's going to be a great dunking target after niji

>>77548459

>>77547961
>catalogfags only just now learning that Mouse is friends with more people than Connor
You're at least two years late on this

>>77548514
By all means, keep projecting

>>77548346
Proving that ironkek is nothing without leeching to connor is having a meltdown ? You're weird

>>77548566
>>77548570

>>77548559
Yeah connor is kind to pass her around I guess, he even gave her to his best friend Hassan

>>77547763
>he
Why talk about yourself in third person

>>77548670
>>77512888

Number Monkeys mad at the mouse again

>>77545060
Bro there's like 50 collabs a week, what the fuck are you talking about?
To answers OP's question, she doesn't stream much on twitch, she mostly sticks to youtube.

>>77548762
Damn vsisters are in fact nijisisters trying to find another rival to hololive ? That would explain why mouse gets better numbers when there are males on her stream...

>>77548927
>damn ooh ooh ah ah sistaaar

>>77544050
>still more than double the CCV newest organs getting
GRUMMEST

>>77548927
>niji retirees move to vshojo
>toxic fanbase follows
vshojo's fanbase was already bad as is, looking forward to the fireworks in the future

>>77547763
never forget, SEA can't even afford a data plan for twitch

>>77544050
I've never watched coco or rushia. If they stuck around Hololive, where would they be now based on how the other members have grown? Will they be on par with marine and pekora?

>>77544050
Not a vtuber and I don't watch openly admitted lesbians who, on top of that, find the concept of man/males distasteful.

>I'll call them SEA again, m-maybe this time they stop bullying me

Vsisters will defend this

>>77549393
Sounds like the entirety of /vt/

Everytime a SEAmonkey seethes over Mouse I just think of depressed nousagi screeching at the top of his lungs when she won the vtuber of the year award instead of pekora.
"NOOOOOOOO FILIAN YOU HARLOT"

>>77549444
lmao relax muhammed

>>77547449
You don't need # to know that, 1k+ viewers on twitch is the equivalent of 10k on YouTube, 1k viewers is the top 2-3%(?) of twitch or something like that, there's already very detailed AND old info explaining this.

>>77549185
>vshojo's fanbase was already bad as is
although I have never seen a proven vhojofag attacking another fan base, I can't say the same for niji,holo, and phase.

>>77549210
Anon, you don't get to bully them for phone-posting adn watching streams on phone,
And also for not being rich enough to watch streams on their phones

>>77549357
I think rushia is still the most superchatted vtuber of all time

>>77549210
>Line(Asian Discord)
>Instagram
>Tiktok
>Zoom
>Facebook
>Youtube
>Lionsgate Play
>Prime Video
You should be concerned that Twitch is not included in these services.

>>77547449
>>77549824
this is insanity

>>77549860
She is but if you combine both of their accounts, Kson is ahead, and I think still #1 overall ahead of all the Brazillian priests.

>>77549602
You do know hololive fans despise doxsagi, right ?

>>77549210
why would anyone watch twitch on mobile? Have you seen the new tiktok tier ui they implemented?

>>77549824
>Twitch has more 3views streamers than YT
>That means Twitch's 4views are more popular than YT's 4views
Holy retard

>>77544050
Coco was way better and worked better in that environment where being the crass rude person was the exception, not the norm. She wanted so bad to be a usual Western shitter on twitch.. she got her wish, but the thing is she is actually not that interesting in an environment where actually most people are like her. She also specifically said she was not gonna join another corpo after leaving Hololive and then went and joined vshojo of all places, doing a fair bit of damage to any trust in her leftover from Holo and leaving her mostly with only the really hardcore gachikoi tatsunoko left and whatever randos she was lucky enough to clump up on twitch.

>>77550314
crazy how hard she fell off, hololive has some good wranglers

>>77547449
No fucking shit. Why do you think Iron Mouse won content creator of the year? Everyone knows Twitch view > YouTube view.

>>77549824
>>77550030
>>77550241
Not sure about the entirety of streaming, but as far as streaming video games, twitch remains the most popular site for it.
https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/internet/streaming-stats/#:~:text=Twitch%20has%20over%20140%20million%20users%20per%20month.&text=This%20exponential%20growth%20not%20only,popular%20video%20game%20streaming%20service.

>>77544050
Probably because of how inconsistent she is.
Half the time she's streaming on youtube. Half the time she's fleshtubing, half the time shes's vtubing

>>77550314
I don't think she cares bro. She went on a literal world tour for the past couple years and made it into Yakuza twice.

>>77550769
Yes, of course. There is no nepotism in streamer awards.

>>77550314
>the usual copypaste in all coco/kson thread
get a job nigger

Are ironkeks frustrated that Pekora can gather 12k people to cheer for her in a stadium when she doesn't even know how to sing, while ironkek has been singing the same 5 songs for 5 years in shitty karaokés no one cares about ?

>>77550207
Like 1% of SEA owns a computer

>>77551162
Ironmouse is literally supported by people from all over the world, while Pekora is only from Nips.
If you want to gather people, you will find that it is considerably less difficult to do so in a small island country.

>>77550846
now what does that have to do with vtubers? everyone knows yt is the home of vtubing

>>77546664
Yeah sick of streaming because she had too much "creative freedom".
Reality is, creativity only thrives under restrictions.

>>77551461
Yeah by the embed streams kek
The chat is so fucking slow it took 30 seconds to start scrolling, just checked right now

>>77551461
Ironmouse is only popular in the west and twitch viewers while Pekora is known by almost anyone, on the most global streaming site.
Ironmouse only advantage is speaking English.
Pekora still mogs her with the ultimate debuff of only speaking Japanese.

>>77551638
The home of streamering is Twitch
Vtubing is streaming
The home of vtubing is Twitch
Q.E.D

>>77551891
Do you have a humiliation fetish

>>77551708
>>77546913

>>77550314
Don't forget the damage control stream lmao

>>77551891
Theres a reason why Its called vtuber and not Vtwitcher anon

Vshojofags trying to tell ironmouse is the best vtuber feels like americucks trying to tell french or italian people that their "food" is the best.

>>77551879
>>77549210
the most global streaming site

>>77551741

>>77552301
Sister, you seem out of argument, there's documented proof of people abusing twitch's view system, and everyone knows the botschizo is malicious, he got called out by multiple holos

>>77552039
Does this SEA think "tuber" in "Vtuber" means "Youtuber"?

>>77552605
>sistAAR
post your tits fat bitch

>>77551162
We don't really think about it, frankly

Too busy supporting our streamer to spend time comparing her to others

shojokeks can't be this retarded right

>>77550314
This is spot on.
Her joining vshojo actually left a bad taste on my mouth.
And her vshojo debut stream taking some shots at holo being "slaves" whole at the same time saying that there are No Cons whatsover made me regret supporting her on her last moments as Coco.
In the end, she only cares about money.
She used her Popularity as Coco and now that everyone got her attention shes exploiting it at its fullest.
Lets see how well it lasts though.

>>77549823
a lot of us dislike phase but we don't go into their thread or anything. niji sucks because we see the ptsd they gave their talents and the sisters that drop in are annoying. holo talent are lovely but their fans are often the ones that number and call non-melody members whores, otherwise they're fine

>>77552625
Yes? Are you fucking new?
It's Virtual Youtuber.

>>77552915
>a bad taste on my mouth.
that might have been the pagpag

>>77552732
You mean too busy watching connor, right ? If you were that dedicated you would watch her videos even when he isn't here, which is not the case

>>77544050
>not even 5k viewers
>still #1
but even Henya can't keep them alive for much longer.

>>77544050
I stopped watching kson soon after she came back because she wasn't the kind of content that I would enjoy watching all the time. Gave her a few streams but it wasn't the same. Then I unsubbed when she started doing non vtuber streams. Finally I blocked her channel when she did that fishing video. I assume that's what happened with most people.

>>77552625
Retard.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=VTuber

>>77552746
They unironically are. Checked out their thread the other day and they unironically believe any random catalog thread if it's about non-vshojo. They care about their own and mindlessly shit on everything else while repeating dumbest bullshit.

>>77552625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NasyGUeNMTs
You donkey

>>77553064
busy watching streams

>>77553243
Do you know that Irounmouse debuted earlier than Kizuna?

>>77553316
So basically watching youtube videos she hand picked for you, that a good boy here

>>77551879
>30k people voted for ironmouse over pekora

>>77553457
>every thumbnail is a video game

>>77553449
Now you're just lying

>>77544050
"talent freedom"

>>77553031
nta but coco going back on the one thing she said she wouldn't do ought to be enough to make anyone go "oooh really, ok then go have a fun rest of your life if all your old fans meant nothing to you" because that's what it feels like when someone lies to your face clearly and boldly. maybe it'll happen to you vshojo shitters too someday.

the thing was, it was not a radical thing for her to say, it was one road closed out of many options. she could have just stuck as an indie, she could have gone to fleshtuber only, she could have just quit streaming because she was rich enough, and actually what people were hoping for most was she was gonna start her own corpo. instead of any of that she did the one thing she said she was not gonna do and went to the one place holo fans would have least-liked her to go. the only reason her name doesn't invoke pure fucking fury these days actually, is only because anyone mad at her just gets accused of being chinese so people instead have just leveled off and leave her be where she has shrunk to like 10% of what she used to be clout/view/income wise. we don't give a fuck that she's still "doing fine", that's great. she used to be making fucking millions, you have no idea how fucking important she used to be and she's just a shadow now.

>>77553559
>"just chatting" in every single stream

>>77553316
I love being a mouse fan because she streams so much that I always have something from her to watch instead of malding while coming up with reasons to hate other vtubers because my oshi isn't live

>>77544050
you'd know if you actually watched

>>77553631
>going back on the one thing she said she wouldn't do
https://files.catbox.moe/h2le5c.mp3
dumb eop

>>77552660
>fat bitch
yeah it's a sister alright. Only women immediately default to calling people fat.

>>77551741
Get a better data plan.

>>77553848
>the sister cries out in pain as you strike her

>>77553575
What's youe next cope?
You're trying to say that ironmouse is not a Vtuber?

>>77547449
>According to /#/, the numbers of Twitch are worth 6 times more than those of Youtube.
Statistics for this are admittedly rough because vtuber viewers generally have much deeper pockets than regular gaming viewers, especially for the youtube market where everything that isnt vtubers is laughably unmonetized to the point where most youtubers' primary income source is raw ad views.

>>77553695
she starts most of her 12+ hour long streams with 1-2 hours of pure yap. Feel free to click any vod to see, on twitch when you change categories it turns Jr into a chapter and they all have duration labels

>>77553968
Now fuck off

>>77551879
lmao

As you read all of this tribalseethe, remember that in a few months Souchou will have been active for twice as long as Coco existed and they're still not over it.

>>77548095
>>77547961
>>77547087
>>77553064
It takes a special kind of psychopath to hate on ironmouse. She's has achieved everything she has while bring crippled on her deathbed. All that pagpag has rotten your brain.

>>77554356
Ahhhh, pleeeease holocucks, dont see this!

>>77554450
She found the right guy to leech onto*
Crying on stream to make him feel guilty was a genius move, I'm not gonna lie, that's peak manipulation from her

>>77554658
>She found the right guy to leech onto
Gunrun rather than Yagoo?

>>77553700
>mouse fan
you mean youtube autoplay fan?

Beyond the cope, there's the real reason: she's just a typical camwhore. Always was, and couldn't even keep her fans that followed from Holo cause of how boring she really is without constraints
>Insert copy pasta about how corpo female vtubers show why women only thrive when under control

>>77554439
>they're still not over it
Appeared in her favorite games
Attended many Conventions
Produced solo concerts
Completed Vshojo's 1st concert
Collaborated with the world's most famous mobile game
More info?

>>77554768
does your imam know that you know what a camwhore is

>>77554727
Yeah being friendly with a co-founder of twitch was also a genius move

>>77554450
make falseflagging less obvious, she hasn't been on anything close to a deathbed since she started streaming. you the same dude who made up the kizuna was after mouse shit when mouse has always said she was inspired by kizuna

What the hell is going on in here

>>77554828
Literally all of her "big" moments since joining Vshojo having been when she showed her ass on stream or did yuri bait with literal whore JAV actresses

>>77554727
He was a very good guy and allowed her to literally have talent freedom.

>>77554969
Shojofaggotry

2bh they seethe more about Henya than kson so you should have done that

>>77554768
You always know they're from a muslim country when they start talking about needing to control the women.

>>77554743
oooo call her a sleepstreamer next, very cutting and accurate critique I'm quaking in my booties

>>77555057
says more about you than it does about her my dude

>>77554290
Different anon but she actually debuted on august 5th 2017

>>77554290
mouse didn't debut on twitch

>>77555116
Nvm I'm reading through it. I think it's the Ironmouse anti from /#/. Literally says the same things every time.

>>77554439
man, time sure does fly.

>>77555664
So Nyanners is a vtuber since her 4chan days ?

>>77554439
>>77554798
Nobody cares

>>77555839
what does that have to do with anything

She's a boring Twitch thot. Kekson is not hot enough to simp for and not entertaining enough to watch without being room temp IQ.

>>77555289
so they are European

Kson has no talent as an entertainer, aside from maybe being able to convince people she's something she isn't

>>77556005
Whatever you say, don't forget the fact that an HoloEN want to join Vshojo.

>>77556123
I hate that you're right (frog)

>>77544481
This. She used to be Hololive's only native English speaker. What does she even do anymore? What reason is there to watch her?

>>77555839
what is blud waffling about?

>>> No.77530118
>>> No.77530231
>>> No.77530881
This thread proves this to be true.

>>77556184
> the fact
Yes, in your imagination.

>>77554798
And drew 0 dimes. Kek

>>77556691
>> No.77530118
>> No.77530231
>> No.77530881

>>77546436
nah he’s right, you’re just retarded. Some people already gave up, too little too late

Idk what's worse, numbermonkey seething for the whole thread or people biting his dogshit bait

>>77556887
This holocuck knows nothing.

>>77549393
>openly admitted lesbians
>He doesn't know >>77549393

>>77544050
She was never good

Let's be honest, the Vshojofags deserve all the bait threads they have.

>>77544050
Maybe she shouldn't have abandoned vtubing in the vtubing agency after vtubing made her everything she is and built her audience of vtuber fans

>>77557084
stop lying and being trash,ratacuck.

>>77557241
She has talent freedom, so she allows to do what she wants. I like Kson and fully support her activities.

>>77557241
In one of her last streams she did say she changed her mind and didn't want to leave and cried but it was too late to turn back.

>>77557241
Yes, she has no right to complain.

>>77557241
She has talent freedom, so she is allowed to do what she wants. I like Kson and fully support her activities.

>>77557512
>She has talent freedom
on hololive she had it too

>>77557512
>>77557727
This is a cult and you can't convince me otherwise.

>>77557738
So why does Calliope Mori want to join Vshojo?

>>77557512
Literally no one is saying she can't, but don't ask why she's losing viewers if you don't want to hear the truth
She can "talent freedom" herself down to irrelevancy, that's her right

>>77557537
She recently said she regrets leaving holo? Am I interpreting that right?
Do you have the timestamp?

>>77544050
she was never interesting even in holo, but this board has unanimously agreed that her content of being a react streamer to reddit posts during her holo days was peak content. this is why no one takes opinions of /vt/ seriously.

>>77557738
sure...

KSon is worth nothing as a VTuber but I swear to christ I'd goon to her fat hafu ass.

>>77557966
Everyone back then was just as eop as they are today but the selection of english streamers was much smaller
She was a stale piece of bread in a desert of starving fags

>>77556400
Gooning to her fat ass and watching her grope JAV models

>>77557848
that's a lie you made up.
>>77558023
>clickbait
pathetic

>>77552625
That's literally it, retard

>>77557966
>but this board has unanimously agreed that her content of being a react streamer to reddit posts
newfag

>>77546344
I've been told whenever I complain about her activity that she accomplished all her goals so I guess she's just streaming now because why not

>>77552625
ok, this is funny.

>>77552625
Did you think it meant a fucking potato you retard?

>>77553784
redditor

>>77557738
she didn't have the freedom to have chat moderators

>>77558554

>positive response deleted
>anti thread open until SEA hours are over
I guess as long as it's not holo or phace the mods don't give a shit.

>>77558643
that's not what that phrase means, ahmed.

>>77557966
This. You can't say anything negative or you get labled as Zhang or Chink.
Did they forget Coco introduced reddit to Japs in the first place?

>Kson bait thread in catalog instead of a holostars bait thread
Wow, color me surprised.

You have to admit something, the Vshojofags are experts in falseflags.

>>77558808
in fact it was a chinese woman, reddit is literally chinese owned

>>77558237
>you do not see streams
>you don't see clips
anon... your source of information are 4chan threads

>>77558808
do the bugs even pay attention to her anymore?

>>77558808
artia was the first holo on reddit

>>77558693
He deleted his own post and reposted it 2 minutes later to fix a typo you schizophrenic

>>77558711
rent free

>>77559069
moving the goalposts is what you're doing now. i was refuting your point. vshojo gave her mods as soon as she debuted btw.

>>77559021

>>77559151
>i was refuting your point.
>mods= freedom
You're a moron, go back to r*ddit.

>>77559350
freedom means the ability to do what you want unhindered by outside constraints
she wanted chat moderators and was denied them
let me know if you need any more english or hololive history lessons

>>77555289
Funny how stock images like this exist

>>77559476
so why didn't she do what suisei did and mod her trustworthy fans anyway? did she not have any?

>>77559476
>freedom means the ability to do what you want unhindered by outside constraints
That is literally a lie like the rest of your post, redditor.

>>77559757
she wasn't allowed to do that
let me know if you need me to rephrase something i've said twice already again

>>77559757
That's because he's lying.

>>77551162
>while ironkek has been singing the same 5 songs for 5 years in shitty karaokés
Which ones?

>>77559868
You kept lying, redditor.

>>77559830
you're not gonna learn english if you don't use a better dictionary
>>77559980
keep*
feel free to give a timestamp of coco saying she's free to have moderators but doesn't want them, all her archives are up.

>>77557537
Anon, you know you could easily give her antis (like me) easy ammo to hate on her if you were to link a source to back you up?

>>77560115
>my dictionary is better
>You have to prove your claims but I don't.
Vshojofags are the most pathetic thing there is.

>>77560327
>she wanted her chat to look like this
you're actually arguing that right now?

>>77559046
>Artia is the same level as Coco
Are you retarded?

>>77560377

>>77560526
you literally need brain damage for your argument to make sense. and that still isn't what "moving the goalposts" means you silly foreigner.

>>77560482
redditor, you are a newfag.

You also have zero reading comprehension.

>>77560588
>still isn't what "moving the goalposts" means
We started the argument with that she had talent freedom on hololive and now we are talking about how hololive prohibited her from having mods (which you still haven't given any proof of)

>>77544050
Because people has realized she is not a dragon girl or Yakuza Kumicho but a ordinary Obasan after her irl streams
Why asian vtubers in twitch show their flesh bodies? even their faces??? Kson, Bao and Onigiri broke my dream

>>77560804
>"they have freedom"
>no they don't, they have so little freedom she couldn't even appoint moderators to her chat
>"you are moving the goalposts"
i was trying not to be rude but you are so fucking bad at english it's not even funny. why are you even here instead of on a foreign facebook group?

>>77557938
>>77560255
He made it up. She wanted to buy the Coco character and continue using it as an indie rather than graduate and throw it in the garbage but Cover wouldn't sell it. That's why she was so excited about Patra being able to do just that. She never changed her mind about leaving Hololive.

>>77560945
>talent freedom= freedom
>still zero evidence that prohibited her from having mods.
You already lost the argument, redditor.

>>77561220
evidence:
her chat looked like this: >>77560377
forcing her to be in membership mode 99% of the time. i rest my case.

>>77560825
If pandering to Twitch culture is a bad thing, then why do people love Twitch?
Twitch Vtubers ain't your moms.

>>77561195
>He made it up.
>She wanted to buy the Coco character
ok, so it's true.

>>77558808
the ''holo returns to bilibili'' , ''matsuri will streaming tomorrow with kobo in bilibili brothers'' didn't show you that this board is full of zhangs?

>>77561341
Maybe you should translate the original post and my response to your native language so you can understand the part that isn't true.

>>77561195
>Cover won't give you the option to buy the character.
Very interesting~

>>77561291
That is not evidence that they prohibited her from having mods, moron.
At least you stopped saying that you weren't moving the goalposts, that's progress.
>>77561323
money

>>77561425
Cope and seethe

>>77561399
Yes, but that does not mean that you are Chinese because you are not a Vshojofag.

>>77561529
explain why she did nothing to prevent her chat looking like that then. you're making the outrageous claim that she was fine with that. prove your claim.

Dokibird became what everyone thought KSON would be in the Vtuber community.

>>77557938
>Do you have the timestamp?
You think if it were true I wouldn't have a dozen clipnigger clips scratching out a few thousand hits? remember where you are.

>>77561491
That doesn't exist, nobody does that.
>but Vshojo...
They don't do anything like that, you already own the character from the beginning

Her content sucks and that's it. Every single time a vtuber falls off is because she stopped doing the content that made her popular in the first place.

>>77561919
It does exist, I gave an example in my post of someone who did that. Seriously, go away if you don't understand this language. You're embarrassing.

>>77561760
you're just a tribalfag, which is the same shit with a different shade of brown.
but if it bothers you so much to be called Chinese (which is understandable) you can post a pic of your visa.

>>77561815
No, not yet.
There remains the important task of getting her into Vshojo ;)

>>77561797
I don't have to explain anything, you're the one who invented that Hololive wouldn't let her have mods.
> you're making the outrageous claim that she was fine with that.
nope
> prove your claim.
Do it yourself first before demanding anything.

>>77561399
The only reason they aren't streaming is because the manager they hired had a big mouth.

>>77561833
> remember where you are.
You literally made an anti holo thread today,fag.

>>77562066
It is only a matter of time now lol.

>>77562130
hololive management actually invented the idea of not letting her have mods. i understand your confusion because by the time you found hololive they are allowed to and you see them in every EN stream, but back then it was forbidden. also picrel.

>>77562131
I have one guys.
surprised?

>>77562000
>It does exist
>Patra
There is no example, that is a literal who.
you should go back to r*ddit,tranny.

>>77562248
no? today I made cookies

>>77562383
>Calling a Kson fan "chink"
Lurk for a bit, newfriend.

>Vshojo is a better agency than Hololive.
Why do you discuss something so self-evident?

>>77562290
>still zero evidence
The funniest thing is that you kept saying that you didn't know what moving the goalposts was and in the end it was you who didn't know.

>>77562469
>Patra
>literal who
Return to whence you came.

>>77562596
The funniest thing is how you respond inappropriately to every post because you can't understand anything you're reading.

>>77562534
Yes, that's why they transformed so many indies into superstars, unlike Hololive which never did that.

>>77562609
>>Patra
>>literal who
yes

>>77562658
>still zero evidence
I accept your concession

>>77562718
Nijisanji, the indie company

>>77562718
No wonder Every Vtuber wants to belong to Vshojo.

>>77562932
>>77563043
I was being sarcastic, redditors.

>>77562860
Do you have awareness of how bad your English is or are you both foreign and delusional?

>>77563218
cope

>>77563381
>moving the goalposts again.
>This time he wants to talk about my level of English.

>>77563467
no, hololive is king.

>>77562800
For the record, what you're doing here is a very good example of "moving the goalposts".
>"nobody does that"
>actually somebody did that
>"she isn't popular"
You changed your argument after it was refuted, from "nobody does that" to "no popular people do that".
>>77563667
Your English is astoundingly bad, to the point where it feels like I'm talking to a 2005 era chatbot rather than an actual human.

>>77563727
the king of terrible numbermonkey fans.

>>77563734
>>"nobody does that"
>>actually somebody did that
>>"she isn't popular"
Suou Patra went indie years after Coco graduated.
Furthermore, it is a single case of a woman who does not matter.
She's a literal who and no matter what you say, that's not going to change.

>>77563795
why do you bring up numbers so much, holo paves the way for everyone and even vshojo does idol concerts and valentine voice packs now

>>77560598
>redditor
The irony.

>>77563795
They are the only fanbase that won an award for best fanbase.

>>77564046
Did you look at what kind of thread you're bumping?

>>77564080
Yes, you are a redditor. Your idol was literally called the redditor dragon, newfag.

>>77564095
They are also the only fanbase that threw a fit about losing an award

>>77564156
Yes, it is a vshojo bait thread.

>>77564156
it's a bait thread about vshojo, gura probably gets 10x the amount

>>77564271
So why are you confused about the accusation?

>>77564245
>They are also the only fanbase that threw a fit about losing an award.
Objectively false, but if that makes you feel better, continue living in denial.

>>77564321
ironic

>>77564307
vshojofags are also numbermonkey.

>>77564245
huh, not even kfp cared about her losing that award the fuck are you talking about

>>77564352
>ironic

>>77564303
>gura probably gets 10x the amount
nta gura threads are deleted in minutes

why do holobrowns and nijisisters hate ex-members so fiercely? is it some kind of cult apostasy thing?

>>77564303
>gura probably gets 10x the amount
no, she has about thirty the amount.
>>77564510
lmao

>>77564172
there is nothing more reddit than holo anon

>>77564527
vshojofags literally expelled half of their founding members for playing a game.
Also nobody hates coco but they are disappointed in Kson.

>>77564527
are the people that hate sana and mel in the room with us?

>>77564582
ok,redditor.

>>77564706
No they didn't.

>>77564755
Sana literally had numbermonkey antis while she was still there and got even more afterwards. You are fucking clueless.

>>77544238
>>77544238
>>77544238
This
Not a vtuber

>>77564868
>No they didn't.
Yes they did it
>Sana literally had numbermonkey antis while she was still there and got even more afterwards
and she had many more fans who loved her and still loved her.

>>77564706
>disappointed
>>77546673
>>77554768
>>77557966
holocultists are pure evil

>>77564034
I see that the moron hid and I was right. Coco had talent freedom in hololive.

>>77565017
wow, three bait post. you really proved that you were right and you weren't lying all the time.

>>77565246
>three bait post
and the entire thread
and the past 2 years of you fags harassing her and making shit up about her

>>77565002
>Yes they did it
They didn't. Post Nyanners, Vei or Nazuna in /vsj+/. Nobody will care as long as you don't spam. Silvervale is the only exception because some retards keep spamming her. It has nothing to do with the hogwarts game.
>and she had many more fans who loved her and still loved her.
That's also true for all of the ex-vshojo members so congratulations for defeating your own argument.

>>77564172
I was criticizing Coco, you fucking nonce. She's not my idol. You fucking said Artia was the OG reddit influencer when I said it was Coco.

>>77565310
>and the past 2 years of you fags harassing her and making shit up about her
lmao stop lying, moron.
>>77565324
>They didn't
>Post Nyanners, Vei or Nazuna in /vsj+/.
> Nobody will care...
>but
> as long as you don't spam. Silvervale is the only exception because some retards keep spamming her.
You literally can't maintain your own argument in a single post.
>hat's also true for all of the ex-vshojo members so congratulations for defeating your own argument.
Are you the moron who didn't know what "moving the goalposts" means?

>>77565690
>You fucking said Artia was the OG reddit influencer when I said it was Coco.
and that's true, it's not my fault you're a newfag.

>>77565700
No I am not and you don't even know what half means so stop throwing stones.

>>77564706
>disappointed in Kson
Worse. They don't care what kson is doing.

>>77564868
Sana's antis exist because she's a nepo hire and doesn't want to stream.
The reason there's more after she left is because of the schizos spamming threads about her.

>>77565755
>HoloCN
>Artia of all people
>influencing HoloJP
Lmao
You're the retard here.

>>77565812
if you don't care why do you holodonesians keep posting made up anti shit about her literally every day?

>>77565812
Sana antis already existed after her debut because her numbers were slightly lower than the rest of the group and her skin wasn't pearly white.

>>77565310
If by "harassing" meant ksonkek fans creating bait thread about how she is the Jesus of vtubing, how Hololive owe her everything they ever achieved, and also accusing Holo of being the most evil company, then get shown receipt and cry harassment when get clapped back.
Yeah, I guess having your own shit opinion shoved into your face is harassment.
You ksonniggers are more obnoxious than any numbernigger.
No one cares about whatever kson is doing nowadays but you people keep using the same retarded argument and bait as 2 years ago. Repeating it ad infinitum

>>77565969
take your meds and do your english homework, mahmout

>>77565864
nta but artia was the first mod of hololive reddit

>>77565864
Yes, you are a newfag.

>>77565869
>literally every day
You are a moron, stop lying and acting like you are a victim.

>>77566155
>Victim complex
They have been having this disease since 2 years anon. I think its terminal and incurrable.

>>77565800
>No I am not
Yes you are
>and you don't even know what half means so stop throwing stones.
I accept your concession.

>>77566253
>Victim complex
Yes, you are literally showing that you have that.

>>77565969
At this point I think you are the one who does not have a good level of English.

>>77566442
>>77566053
>E-ESL lol! I Win!
I accept your concession

>>77566099
And what did she do with reddit? Nothing.
Coco spam "meme" reviews and invite her co-workers to laugh at garbage. Inviting twitterfags and retards into the vtuber fandom.

>>77566518
your opinion is worthless if you can't express it without sounding like an ape

>Every problems in other companies
>What about hololive?
It so tiresome.

>>77566635
>>77566635
>moving the goalposts

>>77566808
this

>>77566544
say what you want but holo is reddit and you love it for that.
if you want to be something more 4chanchad check out phase

>>77566808
>thread about holofags insulting an ex-holo for not being in holo anymore

I think what I love most about this thread is when I win an argument and they stop responding to me.
I think this is the third time this has happened to me in this thread.

>>77566982
Holo is reddit because of Coco, yes.

>>77567015
>thread about holofags insulting an ex-holo for not being in holo anymore
>Why did she become the runt of Vshojo? Everyone who has joined has gotten a significant boost in finanas from Vshojo but Kson has actually regressed since joining.

>>77567023
the only reason she knows what reddit is is because there were so many holofags on it
she never touched or mentioned reddit before joining or after leaving hololive
>>77567105
read the replies

>>77567023
And you love it, don't you?

>>77567212
>She doesn’t show off her ass enough
>She's not a vtuber anymore and she doesn't really collab with anyone in Vshojo anymore as well.
>>bait and switched the audience that made her big
>can't imagine why
zero insults and there is nothing to indicate that they are holofans

>>77567105
The entire thread, including the OP itself is literally laden with /#/ rhetoric which are mostly comprised of holofags. You are either very ignorant or simply retarded.

>>77567343
>boost in finanas
only numberfags say this and those are holofags
>She's not a vtuber anymore
more /#/fag fanfiction
>She doesn’t show off her ass enough
more anti bs about how she is a "camwhore" now because they saw a 5 second clip