/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Management.
Management caused their current situation.

>>77504976
Dear god this is embarassing, not a single 4 Finana.

>>77505077
The talents are their own management

>>77504976
>BARRENWOMB has the 2nd highest ccv
why

>>77504976
Just tally up the average monthly CCV per streamer and divide it by the number of streamers to get a better sense of how strong nijisanji is compared to other corpos.

Sociopathic organs.
Sociopathic organs caused their current situation.

Every Nijinigger was desperate to explain away and cope about their involvement in the final yab, even when Niji management themselves admitted they were involved.
The narrative at the time was "blame management not the organs, support the organs while criticizing management". They could have continued to grift off of this if they had allowed the Nijiniggers to pretend they were good people.

But they just couldn't contain their ontologically evil, sociopath-brains, they HAD to sperg out and act like cartoon villains. They just HAD to huff their own farts and think character assassinating the victim would be the right thing and then double and triple down on it several more times (even proudly declaring they weren't being skinwalked or forced to do it).

>>77505153
Well, of course.

>>77504976
Nijisanji screwed Nijisanji

>>77504976
Vtuber companies are dying off which is a good thing. They're all disgusting and full of scummy cunt, hololive doesn't give a shit that mels manager sexually harassed and stalked her, and then went out of their way to erase every trace of her, I hope those cunts get hung by their entails.

>>77505636
NIJISEETHE

>>77505077

>>77504976
Let us look at Vivi as main example.
NijiEN Twitter tries to promote their talents in a form of way. Weekly Highlight Reels.
Tagging multiple talents in tweets.
Tagging talents when collabs happened.
Or just stupid stuff like "Can we get a meow for Hex" and tag him.

Vivi is treated like so non-existent that they won't even have her tagged in anything.
But its not like is there is any favoritism when Claude is essentially mentioned in every third tweet and totally not because he is a personal friend of Elira and Ex member of Hanamori.
The problem is that you are either with Elira or you get the Vivi treatment.
Elira played herself and her pals with the black screen stream, Vox fucked up by bringing up no favoritism when there clearly is and its what attention to Hanamori and how many talents dont even opportunities to grow.

Likewise, this is what happens when you shit out wave after wave. Viewers spread out more the more talents there are and with how little promotion certain talents get, its no surprise no new people come in as Niji wont even try to build up interest and gamble it all away on existing talents who are under fire and many of their viewers leaving.

>>77504976
Elira used to get 4k every stream before Selen Shokku and Black Screen happened.

>>77505506
Why do sisters keep posting pictures of Miload?

>>77505636
>It's a problem of everyone.
>Picks any random Holo stream.
NIJISEETHE.

It's a youtube bug you number obsessed holofags
Seethe and cope y'all

>>77506093
>Youtube bug has gone for one month for now.
Strange, it's literally happening to no one else but Niji. It's the bug called "Kurosanji" peraphs?

>>77506093
The only "bug" i see here is (you)

>>77504976
Is Vox still streaming on bilibili? Or did he finally grow the balls needed to get the pubes for his beard?

>>77506176
He's on "medication" and streaming randomly, hiding from the low numbers because he's a narc and can't live with the idea that he can't be 5views anymore.

>>77505901
More like 1.5k to 3k depending on the day and mood, 4k was a megabuff like MonHun.
>>77505886
>>77505867
>believing Elira ran NijiEN
If that lazy fat fuck ran the branch it'd have nosedived way before Luxiem.

>>77504976
Elira and her blackstream

>>77504976
how about twitter numbers?

>>77504976
If they wanted more views they could just ask

>>77506585
10000 Nijillion views every tweet

>>77504976
Is that the Twisty stream that just got privated?

>>77504976
>dead by daylight episode 959327
>valorant episode 19483957937918328
>minecraft episode 21565165465132132135464846
gee I wonder why people may not be interested

>>77506949
Just got privated? Another one?

>>77506093
AIEEEE it the nega-bots.

>>77505886
>Likewise, this is what happens when you shit out wave after wave. Viewers spread out more the more talents there are and with how little promotion certain talents get, its no surprise no new people come in as Niji wont even try to build up interest and gamble it all away on existing talents who are under fire and many of their viewers leaving.
That's why Cover will now slow down with new talents. They probably understood that there is just so many talents they can handle and divide the viewers.

>>77505191
double raids

>>77507255
grim

>>77504976
I’m about to sound really ignorant. Why tf is this the case? I thought there were enough fujochinks to combat the people turned away by the Pomu graduation, the Selen termination, and the continuous yabs. Did I grossly overestimate their power?

>>77504976
selen is a ungrateful whore

>>77504976
Jesus this content is stale, reminds me of Achievement Hunter after Ray left, just vacuous slop over and over again

>>77504976
They’re just streaming their comfort games fuck off. Not every stream needs to have lots of views to be considered a successful streamer.

Turns out like always the most vocal assholes are the minority of your fan base and if you don't whip them into shape everyone will eventually hate you. Also the talent are bullies in NijiEN.

>>77507322
> I thought there were enough fujochinks to combat the people turned away by the Pomu graduation, the Selen termination, and the continuous yabs. Did I grossly overestimate their power?
Fujochinks didn't watch Pomu or Selen. The Pomudachi and the Dragoon fanbases are fucking GONE. Then, most of the original fujochinks got bored of Luxiem and stopped showing up a while ago.

>>77507379

Could you elaborate? Are you saying that notSelen's current success is kind of "blood money?"

>>77507413
so true sister! #Cum4Hex

Saaaar you are a sistaar

>>77506843
>>77506585
These are the Nijillion views and retweets btw

>>77507379
Hi Enna, how's the best year of your life going? Hope you got that hyperventilation checked out

>>77508608
What the fuck is this kek, engagement bot?

>>77504976
le retard de Vox Akuma

>>77504976
At this rate a NijiEN will soon reach 2view status.

>>77507322
Vox still pulls okay numbers, the fujochinks never watched the girls in the first place. See how op titled "90% of" the 10% still exists
Turns out when you pissed off all the pomu/selen viewers, all the male fans left and only the sisters are left.
Even if maid mint never streamed again, pomudachi already left after that "one in a lifetime shit" knowing she was bullied within the company by management.
Btw unrelated but finana big viewer drop into the 300 was actually sayu's fan leaving.

>>77504976
>loli Kusogaki model
>blue
>not on the top of the list
how? how is it works for hololive but not for niji?

shitty corpo
shitty talents
shitty management
shitty fanbase

simple as

>>77504976
Nijisanji EN did basically nothing right from day 1. The story is honestly pitiful.
>Traded reliable male Lazusydia fans for volatile Chinese fujos who would (and did) inevitably leave in droves when one of the livers offended the Chinese national spirit or their ancestors or whatever
>Always chasing Cover's tail but never catching up, a bunch of repeated "keep up with the Joneses" attempts that flop
>Never hired real English-speaking management so the inmates ran the asylum while clueless underpaid Japanese office workers coldly "managed" the whole circus from Tokyo
>Spam a bunch of mediocre mixed gens so insanely fast that people can't even remember their names anymore, each one successively getting worse numbers. They have seemingly no idea how to beak out of this poisonous cycle
>Be cheap the whole time. Put out low quality generic merch and never giving most of the talents 3D debuts until it was far too late. Still not even close to ever catching up with the pipeline and likely never will
>Other misc. bizarre decisions too numerous to count or even remember (TTT's gen song sung by other existing livers? What? Turning down Pomu's opportunity because... why?)
>Culminating in the Selen saga, the most retarded possible way to handle that scenario. They literally killed their own branch ENTIRELY by their own actions, she barely even did anything to them other than wanting to fucking quit quietly
It's an incredible shitshow. Someone should write a book about it. It's like a detailed tutorial on the exact wrong way to run a vtuber branch. Cover makes plenty of mistakes with management but Nijisanji makes them look like Berkshire Hathaway.

>>77504976
More specifically, NijiEN has 9 vtubers whose average CCV in May was > 1k, 3 of which barely passed that mark. So with 34 active talents, that means they're 74% 3views or worse.
It's worth noting that this is artificially bolstered by them spamming out 3Ds and stretching birthdays much harder than in previous years.

>>77508608
>Engagement bot for a lawsuit doc
JAP SHAREBROS ARE CUUUUUCCCCKKKSSSS!
The Nijisis are worse, for anyone asking. At least the cucks are in for money, not dementia.

>>77507322
Vox is the main pull of the fujos and he's streamed a total of like 10 times in the last 8 months, after losing a good chunk of his audience due to changing his content. He's basically on the same path Yuko was.

>>77504976
Finana is still around the top so clearly something's wrong

>>77512512
The death of NijiEN

>>77504976
The better question is, what saved the 10% from 3view status?

>>77512680
Licking RIku's boots and deepthroating Eliras asshole

>>77512644
Vox's channel was practically dead even before he went into full hiatus mode. his sisters HATED his new direction and I think they also honestly hated his weird new models even if they rarely said it, part of his appeal was the sleek yakuza demon look in a nice suit and he keeps making these weird musclehead samurai models kek

>>77504976
Hololive. Hololive is the Steam of vtubing. If it's not on Steam, there's no reason to even check out if it's interesting or not.

>>77512680
The only ones that aren't perilously close to becoming 3view are Shu, Luca, Ike, and Alban. So they're still riding the falling wave of fujos as they haven't actively pissed them off directly like Vox did.
Vox is a 0view because he doesn't stream.

>>77512799
But NijiEN is interesting. Scarle has some of the best handcam content in EN. Ren plays entire sonatas on the piano. Hell even Aster managed to grind to Masters in Apex and Diamond in League in one season, and is now grinding on Valo too. The only reason you don't think they're interesting is because they don't have a blue dorito next to their name.

>>77512512
your first point is valid but the rot began with Ethyria when they hired the wonderful duo that are Millie and Enna. You can add Reimu to that but she didn't do much. Regardless it was already over when those two got in.

>>77504976
meanwhile, anyone else noticed that a TON of smaller corpo talents are up in numbers? chubas I thought would be 2 views forever approaching 1 finana regularly... is it a rising tide?

>>77504976
funny, the only one with 3 finanas is the "manager" kek

>>77513070
VAllure is unironically doing better than niji right now
PixelLink too
Post OffKai buff?

>>77504976
And to make matters worse:
Elira's 900 is thanks to a 300viewer raid
Ryoma's 800 is thanks to 2 raids (100 + 500)
(not pictured) Ren's 1.2k was thanks to a 300viewer raid

>>77513153
Vallure debuted like last week or whatever, right? So give them some time to settle in.
But it's absolutely true that NijiEN has ceded a ton of territory to small corpos at this point. It's very difficult to make any sort of argument that they're the real second most popular corpo in the EN world right now, it just doesn't ring true.

>>77513153
v&u / kawaii as well.

>>77504976
I will remind people what Elira used to get before the black screen/Pomu graduation

>>77512959
Nah, it's because they have the black mark next to their name. I'm sure Scarle and Ren would do wonderfully in the indie community.

>>77514163
>She didn't keep playing MGS
I wonder why

>>77513153
PixelLink had a good new gen with the asmr girl being someone people were waiting to reincarnate

>>77507322
The chinks pulled out already before the Selen yab. That's why Vox got hit the hardest and he's unironically below many other males in the corp. What was sustaining the remains was a) diehard Nijipsychos and b) giga casuals who have no clue what the fuck is happening basically ever.

The final yab made group B drop Niji as well so now the only ones still watching are the psychotic freaks who worship the corpo solely out of sunk cost fallacy and an inability to admit they invested into retardation (kinda like Trumpcucks).
They don't even have actual oshi's but merely "box watch" most of them, but obviously it's impossible to keep up with everyone so they just center around the senior organs. Hence they all hover around the same 1k-ish CCV:
That also explains why the new wave flopped so fucking hard that they don't even have a debut buff. There is no one left watching Niji that's actually interested in seeing new "talents".

>>77512959
Holo purists are largely just ignored by the rest of the vtuber scene. They'll never watch anything other than Holo, they aren't vtuber fans just Hololive fans.
That's not why NijiEN is struggling though. They're struggling because their primary fanbase are also not vtuber fans and in fact display contempt for average vtuber fans and the vtuber community as a whole. The "sisters" completely corrupted NijiEN and filtered any possible curious new viewers from giving them a chance. Enjoying someone like Ren is impossible when their chat is filled with women shipping him with his coworkers and begging him to get pregnant.
Then the drama happened and filtered out any of the remaining fans who still had a conscience.

>>77514241
She spat on Konami's rep's face and they took away every perm and project they had involving nijiEN

>>77514241
Anycolor lost MGS perms

Something very interesting about NijiEN's numbers.
The males actually peaked about 6 months earlier than the girls. The girls didn't start declining until December of 2022, while the males were declining all the way from May.
As I suspected, the cause of the male and female declines were not directly related. This makes sense as they have entirely different audiences.

>>77514163
Imagine killing your career this hard.

>>77514804
This is confirmed by the "hours watched" metric

>>77514838
it gets better

>>77514695
Wiwa please leave this shithole already.

>>77514804
>golden 20
Reminder that one (1) off-hand tweet by a complete literalwho account caused the entire Nijishit fandom to have a complete meltdown over that phrase

>>77504976
skill issue

>>77504976
Tranny fanbase.

>>77507322
You might be surprised but fujochinks aren't a hivemind 24/7. Just how you can't just put two anime boys kissing in front of one and expect them to instantly love it. They liked one thing and that thing failed to deliver so most of them left and keep leaving

>>77514804
The males declined when Vox pissed off China by flirting with Reimu. For all of the sisters' complaints about unicorns they behave exactly the same way towards the males. Probably why they hate Twisty so much, they don't want male viewers to have someone like her after they got cucked by Vox.

>>77514939
Imagine being so fucking arrogant you try to do an anniversary for a "group" of 2

>>77514853
Some more funny numbers.
Debuts:
>Luxiem: December 20 2021
>Noctyx: February 27 2022
>Iluna: July 24 2022
>Xsoleil: December 10 2022
>Krisis: June 23 2023
>TTT: October 27 2023

>>77515235
What really killed it is that Pomu was responsible for the branch unity song covers during Lazu's first 2 anniversaries and then Elira/Finana did fucking NOTHING without her. IT really highlighted how much NijiEN phone it in without Pomu/Selen.

>>77504976
Elira/management

>>77515156
>The males declined when Vox pissed off China by flirting with Reimu
Yeah, it happened at around the same time when the female fans started to lose interest

>>77515100
This is honestly probably the most reasonable interpretation of why things are happening the way they’re happening.

>>77515156
I remind the time where Reimu tried to be GFE and the same time trying to ship herself with Vox, you cant do both... in time she lost both, shippers and gachikois
People say that Luxiem was the start of the end but in reality it was Ethyria

>>77515156
Vox did something worse than flirt with Reimu, he defended her (after being peer pressured by his branch mates) when the sisters were mad and told them off. Only to grovel at their feet two days later with another blowing asmr

>>77507255
God damn, 300 is less than what the recent small corpo monetization streams have gotten that I've seen.

>>77515156
>>77515363
nah Vox lost some viewers but that wasnt the death sentence for him
The death sentence was the yo mama joke since it got picked up by the zhang version of falseeyed/khyo who fanned the flames in b2 which was caused by a drama in the chinese vtubing sphere

>>77515338
Still appalled at how Pomu gets them to space and Antarctica, and then the minute she leaves the best they can think of is some zatsu-talk show hybrid with random people on call.

>>77514804
>This makes sense as they have entirely different audiences
Sure, the girls suddenly magically got viewers out of nowhere at the same time as the Chinese flocked to Luxiem.

>>77515884
Pomu and Selen were both la creatividad of NijiEN (Rosemi was too but she gave up after she made vtubing her full time job) as well as the main organizers for events.

>>77504976
Finana is inflating still? What a shitty unit.

>>77515972
>1 of the 2 Chinese stream from Selen in almost 3 years
Based retard

>>77516086
>males
she actually got a collab buff from the boys since Hex can't stream and Wilson didn't stream it

>>77515972
There’s no denying that Luxiem’s surge of popularity brought new eyes to everyone. But if you’re a fujochink that loves the boys, there’s no reason to watch the girls’ streams as a regular viewer. Same shit with Holo: if you like one a lot, chances are that you’ll be in their streams a lot more often. It isn’t difficult to understand.

>>77514838
Unironically find it upsetting to see someone throw away so many fans just to be malicious.

>>77515995
didnt rosemi do stuff like a arg that went on for years and a really long obsydia game for their anniversary recently and some branch wide meme song?

>>77516197
What happened during the earlier days of NijiEN was that they would constantly show up because of their open VC policy so some of the sisters watched waiting for the guys to show up.

>>77514163
>Maki shit
Biggest red flag.

>>77516291
They can’t afford to say anything that goes against their “Selen was in the wrong” stance. They can’t walk anything back, can’t apologize. They can only shut up or double/triple/quadruple down. They dug this grave, they laid the tracks for this train. None of them have the spine to stand up for someone if it puts their necks on the line.

And to be fair, most people won’t. But it’s pretty clear everyone left in Niji are spineless hacks devoid of any exciting ideas and creative projects. They know the only way to cure public perception is some form of public recourse with Doki. But to do so will violate all their tenets. They cannot. They will never. And it will be the death of the

>>77516445
The black stream was quite literally the dumbest thing they ever did. It made it impossible to just sweep it under the “management is bad but the talents are good!” rug

>>77516572
>It made it impossible to just sweep it under the “management is bad but the talents are good!” rug
That didn't stop the sisters from trying
>Elira was in Japan and Anycolor could have called THE COPS if she didn't help them, she couldn't to anything else

>>77516824
Even if she had been threatened, they wouldn't stoop to yakuza-level tactics and do stuff like take hostages or kidnap. There might be a legal kerfuffle but Elira's family's pretty well off and Anycolor has shit history with winning any le g al cases.

Never prescribe to malice what could be attributed to stupidity. I think no one expected it tk be received badly. They were just that tone-deaf and stupid.

>>77517204
>Even if she had been threatened, they wouldn't stoop to yakuza-level tactics and do stuff like take hostages or kidnap.
not the first time they did it since they had livers disappear of the face of the earth before like tsumugu or that black haired jo chcik that disappeared right as she was about to debut her 3d model

>>77516370
>a arg that went on for years
No, it was for one of her outfits and lasted a few weeks
>a really long obsydia game for their anniversary
No, it was a short demo in rpg maker that she stopped working on after showing it off
>some branch wide meme song?
The only thing that comes to mind is the 12 days of christmas cover in which case yeah sure

>>77504976

>>77517484
Genuinely need a qrd on this because wtf

>>77512959
>supporting anycolor
No thanks nijifag

>>77504976
and yet finana (7.232m) is only behind moona (8.033m), kobo (28.610m) and kaela (11.754m) from views gained this year, is ccv that important ? you be the judge.

>>77514804
Huh. According to this chart, the Reimu fiasco (May-June 2022) basically did nothing to affect Vox's viewership. The "momma joke" yab (Aug 2022) on the other hand sent him into freefall. The "doxxing" yab (Feb 2023) likewise also didn't seem to affect him much, if anything his return is probably the cause for the brief bump in March 2023.
Then we have the next steep decline April/May 2023 which I can't really put a cause on. June 2023 is when he had his crying stream over his dropping numbers where he announced he would start shifting content away from man-whoring. No clue why he spiked in Oct 2023.
Last we've had the "final Yab" starting in Dec 2023 that started with Selen's disappearance and Pomu's graduation, all of which caused a decline like it did for everyone else. His line is interrupted since he hid like a coward, coming back in Feb after the black stream, and crashing even further, ending as one of the lowest lines on the chart (slightly below Sonny Brisko if you can see).

Looking at the male/female average, the numbers didn't go into free-fall until March 2024. Likely caused by the black stream, which seems to have been the final straw for all fans who weren't outright batshit insane. They were still willing to watch up until that point.

>>77519209
So...never work with China?

Was Finana ever popular? Feels like she tried to appeal to a crowd of people who will never watch her regular streams and soured any dedicated fanbase she once had

>>77519299
Not necessarily, China is still a big market, big enough that even Holo can't ignore it apparently (based on the rumors of them trying to go back to Bilibili)
Chinese fujos are the ones you never want to work with

>>77519351
On debut IIRC she actually had the most subs of all of Lazulight because of her design. Pomu was the "runt" of their wave for quite a while actually, which is pretty fucking funny in hindsight considering how high she climbed later on.

But no she was never popular (how could she, she basically has no talents and a terrible personality). Looking at the numbers chart here it seems the "parasocial fucks" + trap fiasco did bring her numbers down though, but it was mostly slow decline.

>>77519351
Yes, there was a time back in Summer/Fall of 2021 where she was the top girl in the branch thanks to her streaming Honkai Impact 3rd. She would consistently get 4-6k viewers on streams for a couple of months.

>>77506093
Retard

>>77519351
There was a period at the very very beginning where she had more viewers and subs than Pomu (but less than Elira). She was always mediocre but had some novelty as being the "lewd/unseiso" vtuber in a big serious company.

>>77519351
She was actually the most subbed girl in the company for a while during their first year

>>77512512
>>Be cheap the whole time. Put out low quality generic merch and never giving most of the talents 3D debuts until it was far too late. Still not even close to ever catching up with the pipeline and likely never will
Their rigging is also pretty bad. I often mention this collab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0MlTz0HSWo&t=5101s with Aura to see the difference. And keep in mind Aura GX is the mascot of the niche version of an already niche webbrowser.

>>77519675
>On debut IIRC she actually had the most subs of all of Lazulight because of her design.
I think it was mostly because both Elira and Pomu got culled before debut, while Finana did not.

>>77506417
holy fucking cope
pay attention to the story
she wasn't always in charge and only did it when the management left to do NFT shit even Luca talked to his mod hag about the NFT shit
The old management had Noor one of the failed Indian branch livers

>>77512959
>defending le *sigh* sexpest and praising scarle in the same post
holy fuck sister

>>77521037
What's more, Youtube seemed to have something against Pomu's channel, as she was originally denied monetization and needed management to escalate it to Youtube Japan to resolve

>>77519675
pomu was only a runt because she immediately took time off for her breast cancer prevention surgery
it didn't take long for her to destroy them

>>77519351
it was because she was doing lewd shit that even the JP members talked about
things are way different now compared to her egg story or blasting her pussy with her siblings recorder instrument
she threw that out the window

>>77519351
as of may 2024, finana (7.232m) is the highest views gained nijisanji en active liver according to social blade, higher than luca (7.203m), vox (3.094m), ike (3.552m) and shu (4.529m).

>>77522621
Finana, to her credit, has remained a pretty consistent streamer over the past 3 years. Consistently low-views, sure, but she does actively stream. Compare that to Luxiem who heavily cut back on streaming after the first year

>>77507255
>300 for a monetization stream
Holy shit.

>>77507255
>>77523769
Must be why Klara is doing her monetization during JP hours.

>>77523905
Aren't half of her streams JP anyways? She's clearly a VTA dodger like Meloco and Kotoka.

>>77515995
Rosemi still does creative stuff, but she rarely did big projects involving many people.
Pomu and Selen did though, and now that they left, it shows.

>>77524003
She has two JP zatsus which is probably why her sub count jumped like it did

>>77524164
At least she seems smart enough to avoid drama. The only 'bad' thing she has against her is that she's an Enna fan.

>>77522621
not surprising I guess

>>77520237
It has to do with the Nijisanji app. The nijisanji app is so horribly outdated that the default 1.0 is stiff as fuck and has no expressions.
Likewise, vtube studio has a tendency to make the model move like jello by default.

>>77521840
Oh how I long for a return to those glory days. Maybe after she leaves Niji and returns to indie vtubing (and hopefully actually doing her homework on stream instead of just talking about it)

>>77524273
It's not like she can go out and say "I like Mint!" after that WrestleTuber gig.

>>77525929
>Maybe after she leaves Niji and returns to indie vtubing
lmao that's never going to happen

>>77504976
Selen caused it, but not directly herself, rather she was just the catalyst NijiEN used to shoot itself in the foot with. Blasted clean off actually with the Elira black stream.

A lot of people just won't respect them or take them seriously anymore until they apologize for the whole selen/doki debacle but it seems they unironically would rather die as a branch instead of swallow their pride. Ok then, suit yourself. Funniest part is they pretend it's totally not happening and they've made the right call sticking to their guns, which is the stubborn asshole move to do and this only makes them MORE unlikable than if they showed even a fucking tinge of introspection or regret about it. All they're doing is confirming what we rrated about all along that they are actually-horrible people and they don't deserve any success or sympathy at all.

>>77504976
Those Twisty numbers are pretty funny. I guess she's targeting a male audience that doesn't exist in Nijisanji?

>>77526845
It's pretty funny how extreme the effect is. Guess Elira etc have a higher ccv than like 2-300 only because they still have a holdout, vestigial remaining audience from back in the Lazusydia days. Those are literally living fossils of fans now, completely obsolete in the modern nijiEN scene just being Sistersville.

>>77505077
Not even entirely management. I could swear the Nijisanji EN talents were some of the first ones in the vtuber sphere to start disavowing any and all all parasocial feelings, despite their careers literally relying on it, and despite they themselves actively feeding into it.

>>77526500
there is nothing to apologize to selen, she wanted out and an easy exit. there is no bullying in nijisanji en, no proof of any of the alleged bullying on selen has ever been released for the last four months. doki's numbers is also going down by each passing months, the novelty is running out.

>>77527025
this exact sentiment, EXACTLY the way you are talking, is why nijiEN will continue to fail. keep it up. entire branch will be fucking dead in a year and you'll still look like a complete fucking idiot and tool spouting this bullshit.

>>77527025
>release termination notice crafted specifically to shit on her
>"N-NijiEN no booli!"

>>77527025
sisters think they can rewrite reality by posting her revised history on an Indonesian tempeh frying website lmao

>>77527215
plss boost doki's vods she rewwly nids the viewwwss omg :3 shoo sawd.

>>77529194
Only 25% of her viewers were dramafags? That's surprisingly lower than I thought it'd be.