/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>77373175
Even Cover recently stated that they are shifting from introducing new gens and focusing more on their current IP. Talent First model is the best model. Glad even a big corpo like cover followed Vshojo steps.

I don't watch Vshojo.

>>77373175
>whores are the future
So true sister

>>77373322
used to be my fav stellaris strat, start building wide then transfer to building tall

>>77373322

>>77373470
>slutshaming
you're in the wrong medium muhammed

>>77373175
Fucking embarrassing. >>77372763 >>77372903

>>77373850
what a fucking idiot lmao

>>77373850
Holy shit lol kill yourself OP.

>>77373850
oh nononono

get this two and I might consider you the best

>>77373175
Poaching from black companies and nepo hiring friends of one of the cofounders?

>>77373470
I embrace whores i want a honest whore not one of those slimeball GFE bitchs that refuses to admit she just as nasty because her whole grift was that shes "pure and loves you"

>>77373175
Uhm how do they cultivate or grow new chuubas in their business model?

>>77373850
>vshojo bait poster is actually retarded
Who would have guessed

>>77373175
>Love them or hate them
Neither tbhqfam

>>77374653
>Poaching from black companies
Luna
>nepo hiring friends
Korone, Sana and Okayu
>friends of one of the cofounders
La+ her father is an actual 10% shareholder

>>77373322
>followed Vshojo steps
>cover be like "vsho who?"
KEK

>>77374986
>having some nepohires is just as bad as only having nepohires

>>77374986
>but what about hololive

>>77373175
>the future of this industry
you should think about vshojo future first because they ran out of vtuber to recruit while having no audition too LMAO and thats not even counting their non existent plan for future.

>>77375122
VShojo is bigger in the West than Hololive.
>B-b-but muh numbers!
Twitch is the number one streaming site in EN. No one cares about YouTube streaming. VShojo is the face of vtubing on Twitch, and therefore all of EN.

>>77375122
>Vshojo and Hololive collabs this year so far
10

>>77373175
who?

>>77374986
>holo audition
vshojo audition where? ah the SCAM one KEK

>>77375255
>VShojo is bigger in the West than Hololive.
whos gonna tell this clueless twitch coomer? LMAO

>>77375260
And yet you faggots still can’t stand each other

>>77375370
If he was a twitch coomer he'd know that vshojo isnt even the biggest on twitch

>>77375255
NTA I wouldn't say EN but the west.

>>77375260
ah you mean vshojo following holo steps? i see as it should be.

>>77375305
There wasn't a scam audition, they hired Haruka.
Also this is obviously a bait thread because there are multiple successful business model operating right now and Vshojo isn't the most successful one.

>>77375396
catalog and monkey threads are not the gold standard measurement for the vtubing industry.

>>77375255
>No one cares about YouTube streaming
>virtual "YOUTUBER"
retardedanonchama

>>77375255
You got caught OP, just stop there.

>>77375255
>No one cares about YouTube streaming
HoloEN literally gets decent numbers though, reality doesn’t go away because you refuse to acknowledge it. I’m not even saying it’s as popular as twitch but holy fuck please leave your bubble.

>>77373175
nice bait faggot

>>77375779
What happened to his hand?

>>77373175
Where do new chuubas come from if the industry shifts to a model that only involves people who are already successful?

>>77375429
>vshojo isnt even the biggest on twitch
wrong

>>77375916
Ask big football clubs. Yes they have homegrown talents but still contracts big super stars.

>>77375852
I ate it

>>77375950
Please don't summon the numbermonkeys here.

>>77375950
lets gooo vei

>>77373322
>>77373175
moron

>>77373322
vsho-who? OH you meant nijisanji refugee camp.

>>77375950
Isnt it funny how a certain korean that averages more than ironmouse is nowhere to be seen
A really interesting fact

>>77373175
What's the business model? Do nothing interesting with the vtubing medium?

>>77376399
who?

>>77375916
Indies. You know, like the founders of VShojo?

>>77373175
Haven't half of them done facecam streams or on-stream/twitter face reveals? Vshojo is not even a vtubing group and they should be off-topic on /vt/.

>>77376598
Most indies aren’t 3-4views

>>77375916
>who are already successful
...and have to be pretend to like Ironmouse.

>>77376648
Not really, no. Funny enough it's mostly the former Nijis that have. Funny how that works.

>>77373850
kek

>>77374986
>but holo...
nigger

>>77373175
Mooching off of the success of indies that have gotten big on their own?

>>77376399
She moved to afreeca but I can include her if you want, still mogged by ironmouse

>>77376399
>Korean
anon...

>>77376997
Good for the better Filian

>>77376970
A bunch of streamers willingly getting together to do something bigger than they can do on their own is 'mooching'? They're willingly in VShojo, they can all leave with their IPs if they want just like the big flesh streamer groups.

>>77376970
for nip dick rider you're very unfamiliar with doujin circles

>>77373175
>>77373850
annakek not like this

>>77373850
this motherfucker just makes the next vshojo bait thread once his old one is about to expire kek

>>77373175
How the fuck is their business model the future of the industry? The industry dies pretty quickly without the organizations growing new talents for Vshojo to later leech off of.

>>77377521
Indies exist. VShojo is trying to charm multiple of those right now

>>77377521
>Rebranding indies is creating new talents.

>>77377641
Doki, Sayu, and Mint joining Vshojo would end up with VShojo mogging HoloEN. Holobeggars are praying it doesn't happen.

>>77373850
kek

>>77373175
stealing already stablished vtubers? what will happen if no one is creating them?

>>77377978
I disagree with OP but also new indie vtubers pop up all the time.

>>77373175
There aren't enough "already famous" people for it to be a viable model on a large scale. Someone has to make those famous people famous in the first place, and indies don't rise at a fast enough pace. Corporate franchise vtubing is pretty much here to stay.

>>77377978
> no one is creating them?
JP corpos didn't create them they already existed and were already talented, 90% of their vtubers were streamers or worked in adjacent industry like VA or content creation.

>>77376997
>only after korea literally banned twitch from the country and they can make 0 money off it
Intriguing

>>77378272
>Someone has to make those famous people famous in the first place
>use shylily pic

>>77373175
lol

>>77373850
lmao

>>77377805
nope
>Holobeggars
sister

>>77378297
this is for the whole year of 2023. kimchi doko?

>>77376997
goddamn korea is fucking raping vshojos assholes

>>77378272
>There aren't enough "already famous" people for it to be a viable model on a large scale. Someone has to make those famous people famous in the first place, and indies don't rise at a fast enough pace.
>>77378436
>Someone has to make those famous people famous in the first place
>use shylily pic
He used her as an example of an indie, moron

>>77378568
Twitch "Korea will be an essential hub for Esports."

real question when twitch killed korea streamers where did they all move to? certainly not kick or youtube

>>77378272
If there weren't any available big indies they could create new vtubers or push smaller indies too, like they did with Froot and Hime. It's just not necessary when they can just take big established vtuber friends instead.

>>77375255
>VShojo is bigger in the West than Hololive.
Vshitshow 誰?

It does raise the question of: can you just copy the Vshojo model on a smaller scale? That is, go out and get the girl_DM, Limealicious, Juniper, Yuzus of the world and herd them all into a real company (not a Mythic Agency-lite), and make it work financially so it actually benefits the talents and the corporation. No one has really done it yet, although Merryweather made a half-ass attempt at it on a micro scale. Hasn't really gone anywhere for him yet.

>>77378533
Sisters barely exist anymore. I see you faggots on every fucking catalog thread shitting on everyone who isn't Hololive or who isn't a threat to their numbers. And when you're bored you shit on the members with fewer viewers like Kiara and Bae. No one would dare anti Pikamee, but suddenly she joins VShojo and you retards come out of the woodwork claiming she's a sellout.

>>77378272
I agree they will not get large, and so larger players will continue to exist. Not everything has to be "large scale".
There is room for modest growth, and they already stand out by doing what they do.

>>77375744
>SEA numbers

>>77379018
No one would care about Froot or Hime without the bigger anchor talents. Could you build a company around Shylily or Filian? Maybe. Could you do it with 5 Fuckface McNobodies who *also* own their own IPs and can fuck off at any time? Kinda dubious. Cyberlive tried.

>>77379230
Doujin circles in the vtuber sphere exist. They don't need to be an agency for that matter. Crews like 3AM, Vchiban exist on a smaller scale and they are doing fine. The big lig indies generally join companies that deal more with streaming than exclusive vtubing like Mythic talent.

>>77379392
Well you already answered your own question. It's not impossible, you can look at other similar corpos to Vshojo like Vchiban and Astraline.

>>77375255
where's your dodgers collab? All you got is internet shit.

>>77379950
I don't watch baseball I'm under 50

>>77380016
not bigger then

>>77379950
Stop falling for Ennafag bait.

>>77379950
bitch you dont even know jack shit about baseball seafaggot

>>77379950
I'm sure all those baseball and NBA fans will rush directly to the next Vtuber store and empty everything.

>>77379735
>>77379805
I don't think "the future of the industry" is micro corps that barely scrap by. Future of the industry implies the model will be taking over and the majority of vtubers will follow it. Can you do it? Yes. Does it confer any benefit in the market over traditional corporate vtubing? Yet to be seen beyond Vshojo.

>>77379268
calm down sister

>>77380136
The future will be 90% indies with some small vshojo-like groups.

>>77380136
I was just trying to disperse the idea that vshojo is in dire need of other corpos to be viable in this theory. Obviously OP is just baiting and it will never happen.

>>77380094
>>77380096
>>77380076

Looks like I hit where it hurts.

>>77379268
>No one would dare anti Pikamee, but suddenly she joins VShojo and you retards come out of the woodwork claiming she's a sellout
Stop trying to rewrite history, sister.
The truth is that your fanbase has become trash.

>>77380417
Yeah it hurts when I see retards falling for obvious bait.

>>77376997
>kr numbers

>>77380136
Ironic picture. People still actually think the majority of ENs apply to corpos as their ideal?
It probably isn't even true for JPs.

>>77380322
The future is hololive, they are not going to suddenly disappear as you wish.

>>77380417
hurt what I havent seen a single nba or baseball game in my life

>>77380466
projection faggot this is exactly whats happening theres zero reason to hate henya except for the fact that she isnt on your tribe of shitters

>>77380581
That's what nijifags were saying four years ago.

>>77380357
I think Vshojo benefits more if other people *don't* do this. Right now they can kind of pick and choose whichever indies they want, beyond ones too big to big to bother with it like Filian or Shylily.

Is that actually their logo? That's some imperial Japanese war crime shit

>>77380581
I wouldn't put all my money in a public company owned by uncultured shareholders. If they see vtubing is no more profitable they would wipe to out and pass unto the next thing.

>>77380417
Looks like this anon got BTFO.

>>77380539
JP is still corpo obsessed so most of them are still interested aside from the very few big JP indies like Ui. They have a corporate worship culture over there.

On the EN side you're right, corpos are dead here and nobody is applying to any other than desperate 2views.

>>77380745
and?
holochads also said the same thing at that time and they were right.
>>77380711
>projection
cope

>>77375255
I'm starting to think that VShojofags like their shitty site more than the vtuber themselves.

>>77380904
and that's why you are poor.

>>77380977
keep seething troon

>>77381015
Ironic, most platform tribalfagging is initiated by /#/pagpags and nijiSEAsters

>>77381015
you faggots dont even watch your own streams lol

>>77381044
>projection
ironic

>>77381164
cope

>>77381117
>>77381131
rent free

>>77380977
Actually at the time holo was crumbling with controversy after controversy and you're probably only here today because luckily all that stuff happened before EN really got started. The foreign market doesn't take as much bullshit as Japan does.

>>77381238
i like how you didnt even deny it lol and just spam buzzwords now

>>77381216
>cope
ironic

>>77381238
I accept your concession

>>77381349
cope

>>77381015
I watch Kson on youtube and somtimes Melody on chaturbate.

>>77381273
No, all the "controversies" were an attack by the nijiniggers.

>>77381288
>>77381355
>>77381369
thanks for proving me right, newfags

>>77373175
I don't think there's room for more than one company whose business model is just herding together popular indies. There's no real way to turn that into a cohesive brand, which is how they ended up with that weird meaningless "talent freedom" marketing
There would be essentially no difference if they ceased existing tomorrow and everyone under them signed with Mythic or whoever

>>77381454
>self report
so why were you attacking hololive nijisister

>>77381454
Crackheadchama...

>>77381527
You only think that because you watch neither Vshojo talents nor Mythic vtubers.
There's quite a big difference in the amount of involvement and support vshojo members get over mythic talents.

I hate tribalfags, you’re all a bunch of annoying faggots

>>77381521
>I have no more valid arguements therefore im right
Your mother was right, you are a special child

>>77381698
NIJISEETHE

>>77373850

reminder that enna was naked hanging out with diego on stream and her fans was happily getting cucked

>>77373175
Poaching already popular streamers?

>>77381685
I mean, they're obviously more specialised in vtuber support so they will do a better job there, but I stand by the part about them not really having a cohesive brand beyond "group of popular vtubers"
Literally no normal human is choosing to watch a vtuber group because of how their contract handles IP, but that was the centerpiece of their marketing in Japan because they couldn't think of a better way to explain themselves

>>77376127
kcd/fallout/disco/subnautica/ streams have all been bangers

>>77382160
their brand is talent first, and they are talent first. They don't accelerate and prioritize the human factor over profit and meaningless brand growth.

>>77382237
Is Gura copying vei stream ideas lol ? they awfully look similar in that order

>>77373175
Vshojo the company seems great
Not a fan of many of the Vshojo talents though

>>77382298
This is just buzzword soup that says nothing about their actual content
It's like if a cereal company marketed their product based solely on their workplace benefits and didn't mention what flavour it was

>>77382160
What kind of unique branding are you even expecting for an organization like this? The only "branding" that any company ever seems to have is idolslop, and not everyone is trying to be that.

>>77382652
Advertising “talent first” is really just vshojo fellating themselves anyway since its not like they’re hiring anyone that could benefit off of it, I don’t care how nice your company is if nobody can actually get in.

>>77382160
>no normal human is choosing to watch a vtuber group because of how their contract handles IP
I tire of corpo talents just phoning it in because their company owns everything such that they don't feel personally invested into their own brand
It always seems everyone only wants to fulfill their quota set by their management rather than going out their way towards content creator success, with the exception of certain Phasers.
The difference of ambition between Riro with her "top-tier Idol support" and kyOresu on her first month is almost night and day.

>>77382652
Vshojo is a service agency not a product company. Cereal taste is irrelevant

>>77382908
Meanwhile every vshojo talent constantly talks about how much they're helping them.

>>77383010
Because they're friends. And you help out your friends, especially when they're brought in just for knowing you. They're not good at the job whatsoever, but you know them so fuck it

>>77383172
>the company seems really nice and everyone talks about how great it is
>oh yea? that's because they're all friends
wow that sucks then what a horrible place to work

>>77383172
No, they're talking about the actual management team.

>>77383010
Thats cool and all, but it doesn’t really matter if they won’t hire you. If you have to pick a company to join, you shouldn’t even consider vshojo unless you’re part of the clique.

>>77383566
Who gives a shit. I'm not a vtuber.

>>77383566
>Please hate VShojo! They're bad because... They just are okay?!
These are the same talking points repeated ad nauseum on /#/. Looks like I was right, they're scared.

>>77382954
This doesn't explain why they put it on posters in Tokyo, it's just a weird thing to use in a public promotion. Pretty much all they accomplished was giving /vt/ shitposting material

>>77373175
their business model is hiring ex-nijisanjis, that is not a future, that is a refugee camp.

>>77383751
>what is reading comprehension

>>77383752
It's called advertising.

>>77383566
What even is your point supposed to be? How is this some massive criticism that'll make people hate vshojo?

>>77383566
the point of thread is not joining them but following their steps. Owning IP is retarded, fake graduations are retarded, tribalfagging is retarded.

>>77383751
>Please like vhoejo! PLEASE! They are still relevant! please! i will suck your cock
KEK

>>77373850
OH NO NO NO NO

>>77383870
>>77378568
HoloEN doko?

>>77383320
There's a difference?

>>77383278
When you're starving in the desert, even a stale cracker is a banquet.

>>77383851
>tribalfagging is retarded
Meanwhile vshojofags in this thread have been shitting on every other corpo in the market for not doing what they do, stop acting like you’re better than everyone else, at least regular tribalfags are self aware.

>>77383832
Advertising to who
Did they think a Japanese vtuber was going to see them and apply to the auditions they don't have

The poaching vtubers from other middling agencies model? What have they done that can even rival advent in recent times? None of their exnijis are 5views

>>77384069
Note how you said shitting on corpos, not vtubers. That's the difference between Vshojo fans and tribal subhumans.

>>77383930
Yes? Are you that clueless to how a company works?
Do you think Geega is out there getting sponsorships for Henya or whatever? Of course fucking not, their managers are doing that.

>>77384074
Same people this shit was targetted at.

>>77384292
Cover really love using her to numberfag huh?

>>77373175
their business model is poaching the graduates from nijisanji

>>77384292
even better here's the same place vshojo had their ad placed

>>77384456
It's working pretty well.

>>77384449
>if you join you can be like her and get 4 million subs
meanwhile regloss

>>77384456
The holoniji model is poaching failed indies.

>>77377805
anon im a big fan of all 3 and even I know Doki is unlikely to catch up to HoloEN, let alone sayu.
It's far more likely that Doki ends up funneling more people into the fandom for both holo and vshojo. unity strong, etc

>>77373175
wishing for ironmouse death

>>77373850
Sisters.....

>>77384181
You’re really just moving the goalposts here, it’s not like the HoloEN girls don’t get shit for being fake unlike the real and free vshojo girls anyway, as annoying as Holofags can be at least they don’t pretend they aren’t a bunch of tribalmonkeys

>>77381442
based

>>77384995
>waaaah leave the billion dollar company alone it's good when it exploits people
nah fuck you

>>77385106
Stop pretending to be some unityfag then

>>77385106
>exploits people
Go live in the forest and hug a tree faggot.

>>77384449
She was one part of an entire ad campaign that included Kobo, Marine, Suisei, Fubuki, Pekora, Mori, and Korone. Cover has a lot of talents to be proud of.

>>77385200
>unity = corporate worship
no

>>77383924
Creating and nurturing culture that is special to vtubing.

>>77375744
>holy fuck please leave your bubble.
But that's the exact thing, Holo sits firmly within its own little bubble.

VShojo is reaching outside of themselves. They have a huge list of friends and frequent collaborators that aren't in VShojo. They've done things to reach out and highlight other vtubers and artists.
On top of this, they don't exist solely in the vtuber niche. Many of them "leave their bubble" and collab with non-vtubers, broadening their reach far beyond the regular vtubing audience.

As a result, their cultural presence across the EN sphere is much more widespread.

>>77375916
Most company talents get picked up after they have already achieved some measure of success.

>>77385475
>the cultural presence
Th- thanks?

>>77385278
I never said you have to like everything they so, I certainly don’t, but you treat companies like they’re inherently exploitative which i will never be on board with. Companies like Holo are a dream come true for many of the girls there, but you treat them like they’re slaving away in some 3rd world sweatshop

>>77385590
>streamed on 2/25/24
>anon loved it so much he saved a picture of it and can bring it up on demand
mindshare at work

>>77385867
spamming it everywhere like he caught a commie in the 50's

>>77385475
>Many of them "leave their bubble" and collab with non-vtubers
This is not something to be proud of.
>broadening their reach far beyond the regular vtubing audience.
Normies that would call you a pedo because you watch Ironmouse who someone is a male with a voicechanger. I'd rather not.

>>77385839
Hololive got big on the backs of like 50 talented ladies and then instead of the money going into their pockets it went into a 300 man dev team to make some gacha slop. That's bad.
>inb4 expensive studio
That's like 0.001% of the money.
>most of them are rich though
They should be richer. They earned it.

>>77385839
You don't understand anon, they are not allowed to do react content :(

>>77380136
>Future of the industry implies the model will be taking over and the majority of vtubers will follow it.
OP is obviously baiting but if we take it seriously then I believe the "future of the industry" means a radical shift in the treatment of IP, which has been taking place in cases like Patra, Phase Invaders (arguably), Idol ES and ENCORE, the birth of 3AM (the first agency that I know of to directly follow VShojo's model) and the dissolution of PRISM.

As the industry grows more and more companies will be shifting to polices and practices that favor the talent, particularly in IP ownership.

>>77376491
>3x stream hours
>not even 2x amount of total watch hours
This isnt the own you think it is

>>77386127
>the birth of 3AM (the first agency that I know of to directly follow VShojo's model
There were other clique groups before them such as VCHIBAN

>>77386202
>more for the fans to watch
>"that's bad, actually"

>>77385475
>Most company talents get picked up after they have already achieved some measure of success.
Uh no? No one outside /vt/ know who Fuwamoco was. Even then their PL is just rrat and not a confirmation.
The actual number queen Pekora, do you know who Pekora PL before she is Pekora? Only dedicated doxxer know who they were.
Now compare that with more than half of Vshojo talent, even normies know who their PL is. Because for marketing purpose, they never tries to hide them.

>>77385953
I love the culture Vshojo pushes. Love it. We should have Western leftoid brainrot everywhere.

>>77386348
>self-reporting as a muhammad

>>77386232
Vchiban is rightly compared to a doujin circle, as it's literally just those four running the show (and Techy handling merch).

3AM actually has management backing them up. They're a lot smaller than VShojo, of course, but it's the same deal.

>>77386316
>Most of X is Y
>Uh, no? What about [cherrypicked example]?
Anonymous

>>77386252
>watch
Are they?

>>77386348
>Surprised that a literal whore is in favor of legal abortion.
C'mon son.

>>77386348
okay muhammed

>>77386540
yea

>>77386509
>Uh, no? What about [cherrypicked example]?
Oh yeah give me one example pf Holo with famous popular PL before Hololive. I'll wait. On no, you can't

>nijiEn 2.0
I’d unironically think more of vshojo if they didn’t bring Kuro along but that’s a blemish they can’t get rid of now

>>77386587
Who's she leeching from in Rust?

>>77386658
>famous
I never said that

>>77384292
>>77384497
This is just images of the vtubers and their logo, which would have been a reasonable thing to put up there, especially when hololive is an extremely well known brand in Japan already
I wouldn't have found the vshojo ads weird if they just had the members, the logo, and maybe "new vtuber group" or something on them

>>77386658
>>77385306

>>77373175
Picking up already established talents who had been literal whos before their big break? That's pretty grim because it turns into a circle jerk of people that are only famous for being famous. Like reality tv stars, you are saying the future is snookies of vtubing.

>>77386804
Literally just one. And she was such a bitch in the interview process. She should have been rejected.

>>77386690
No one

>>77386896
that whole gen desu

>>77386907
Uh huh. Funny how no one else in Vshojo joined her in the fleshtoid Rust fest. Says it all, really.

>>77386587
God I love it when Holofags try arguing with anyone that isn't just another false flagging Holofag. They always get BTFO.

>>77386795
>picture of vtubers? ok
>logo? ok
>"new vtuber group"? ok
>two words to describe what makes your group different? WTF

>>77386872
All popular twitch cliques are organized this way, OTK, OTV, Vshojo. It works

>>77387041
They didn't include any words that describe what makes them different for viewers, who are presumably who you would advertise to

>>77386795
they even make ads for birthday streams in Korea, an ad is just an ad made by a marketing team. it changes over the years.

>>77386964
Geega did

>>77387117
the freedom to stream for more than 2 hours

>>77386964
geega was there tho

>>77377179
NTA but I don't know what you're trying to prove with that. OTK is exactly the kind of mess of people that have nothing to contribute except being popular. Their chats go to their streams to have their dumb opinions validating or laugh at everything because they're on drugs. Twitch so-called culture was honestly a mistake.

>>77386964
>admitting you don't watch Vshojo
it's ok, just don't make up shit

>>77387073
>It works
So does Big Brother, The Bachelor, Survivor, American Idol, and others. We're not in disagreement, but that's still grim.

>>77387073
All of them trash. Asking for that kind of culture to come to vtubing would kill it.

>>77386587
I remember this one, the one on the left is a chat replay which both fails to save half of the messages and has some mystery algorithmic quality filter applied because youtube is a terrible website

>>77386073

>>77387073
Why would you mention OTV when it's dying? I wonder if that's an omen.

>>77373850
Henyabros not like this...

How can they be a business model if they're not even a company?

Always the same fucking bait threads with the same pictures and webms being posted.

>>77387375
actually i made it and that is in fact live chat.

>grabbing graduated vtubers from other companies.
I'm pretty everyone is already doing that. They are just more blatant about it and don't really care to raise any new talent.

>>77387516
No, i made it

>>77387516
I remember the reaction, spergs were so mad they created a dedicated thread for three days where whole board was laughing at them

>>77387632
Easy money afterall, why can't cover do the same with niji fucking damn it

>>77387186
>hololive can only stream for 2 hours
Is this what VShojofags believe? lmao

>>77387662
no i literally did make it, still got the project file

low hit rate compared to cover, even for it's annoying gen intro rate cover is a great "miner" while V is parasitic upon that process. it's a bit like the california gold rush, vshojo has found it's niche not prospecting but reprocessing the claims of wildcat miners into non-wildcat gains. it's lucky to have it's daemonette guardian who literally can't leave her little unimatrix zero, i sense her hand in everything.

>>77388071
HOLY BASED RECEIPTS

>>77387375
Holofag BTFO. >>77388071

>>77388071
I kneel

>>77373175
>>77373850

>>77388624
That does not actually address anything in the post though
It's also hyperchat which has its own filtering on top of youtube's filtering so you could make it show a slower chat by just filtering a few random kana

>>77392153
i just opened a couple videos and skimmed around the superchat readings to find a slow moment. no idea why you guys went full conspiracy about it.

>>77392440
I'm saying you should feel bad about making obvious bait webms anon, this board is bad enough without people who know how to operate a computer throwing more crap into the sewer

>>77393067
i made it to counteract another bait webm that was being spammed for days and it vanished completely after so i am quite proud of it.

>>77393067
>Fine with webm shitting on VShojo
>NOOOOOOOO A WEBM MAKING FUN OF PEKORA TELL IT DOWN!!!!
Why are Holofags the most insufferable whiny bitches on the board? Talk shit about others all day and the moment you talk back they try to moralfag.

>>77373322
cope harder vshojofag

what happened to this

>>77373175
>the future of this industry

>>77397888
it was the setting of mouse's concert

>>77373322
yyyyyyyyy

>>77377706
Skilled reader-kun. I said grow, not create. And that's exactly what happens when an agency takes a 1 or 2 view and grows them into a 3 or 4 for Vshojo to scalp later.

>>77402856
kinda sad how your idea of growing is noombers rather than character growth

>>77403132
Yes vshojofags. Indies really love being 1 and 2 views forever. Anyone who wants more is just being a numberfags. You really got me.

>>77403567
i am one individual

>>77381600
>>77381620
You are retarded, that's why holochads we will never respect you.

>>77381711
Classic sister, she only knows how to insult and never argues anything.

Is Vshojo even profitable, or are they one of those tech companies that burn through venture capital in the pursuit of growth over actually making money?

>>77403628
Alright replace vshojofags with retard if that makes you feel better. Now go back to pretending the company that won't touch a talent if they're below mid 3 view is above the noombers

>>77393978
>>77392440
>>77388816
>>77388624
>>77388071
>>77387738
>>77386587
>>77386975
It's funny how a year later you guys are still crying because of the slow chats, it's already too pathetic.

>>77388624
not now, sister

>>77404177
We will find out soon when they all move to Kick to advertise slots and scams once Twitch closes down as it has proven for 10 years to be a completely unsustainable business model and a huge money sink.

>>77405200
>move to Kick
you lack critical information

I'm a UnityChad. To hell with all of this Tribalfaggotry.

>>77405532
>UnityChad.
that only applies to hololive talents, newfag.

>>77373850
KEK

>>77373175
I dislike all of them except for Kson and Henya, but I do appreciate that the talents own their characters

>>77405919
Same, could care less about the other whores, but Kson and Henya are the only ones I care about. I do respect their business model.

>>77405750
nta but explain further. i though "unity" meant you are for unity within the vtubing space?

>>77406220
for holofags, unity is when holos collab a lot with other holos.

>>77405750
Nope, I support chuubas across the board. Cry about it Tribalfag.

>>77404476
Its kinda funny that you mention it, for all the bitching about numberfags, vshojofags are often guilty of it too, I've been told on multiple occasions that being lower than high 3view means you aren’t worthy of vshojo.

>>77375396
tell that to all the vshojofag. those are the only fag that hostile af to all other corp vtuber bcs "but my oshi ip"

>>77407304
try numberfagging in the general and see what happens

>>77374986
one is the past and one is recent and 100% future. we will respect vshojo little when they change how they get their talent. but you vshojofag know it's impossible

>>77407572
yagoo just said they are done recruiting so you might want to get off your high horse

>>77407408
Just because vshojofags can’t numberfag in the numbermonkey general doesn’t mean you can’t numberfag elsewhere, it’s happened in this thread already, also i’m not touching /#/

>>77407857
i meant the vshojo general. you know, the place that actually has vshojo fans in it.

>>77407060
I don't care what you do, I just told you the truth.
stupid newfag.

>>77386804
in shit posting, not streaming. how many view she have when she stream?

>>77406220
>>77406305
Before this boards existed, Holomyth fans fought each other for fun in their thread.
UnityChads were the ones who opposed that and wanted peace.

>>77408020
Stupid argument, that happens in all generals.

>>77407641
slow down not stop you moron. in fact they did say they will announce new unitS this year.

>>77407304
vshojofags are the only ones who spend all their time talking about numbers and at the same time accuse you of being numbermonkey.
They do it every time they leave their general.

>>77408633
so you admit you have no idea what you're talking about
>>77408776
uh huh. units doesn't mean new vtubers btw, they were referring to idol units.

>>77409038
>so you admit you have no idea what you're talking about
Why do lefties have this tactic?
They always do it, where they tell you "I'm right and I'm not going to give proof"
>uh huh. units doesn't mean new vtubers btw, they were referring to idol units.
and then they do exactly what they accuse you of doing, this is a more obvious lie than when they manipulate the pekora chats so that they appear slow.

>>77409490
how do you think it's manipulated lol

>>77408096
Seethe faggot Unity Forever

>>77375950
>whore who baits people by claiming to be sick

Ironlung fans are the worst.

>>77409490
>>77409737
https://youtu.be/48xDoCnkayc?t=7609
btw here's the clip i used, feel free to set it to live chat and cry as it is exactly as it appears in my video. i accept your apology in advance.

>>77410677
lmao Seethe fag.
You literally used a minute before the video ends, this couldn't be more pathetic

>>77409751

>>77411332
Shouldn't that mean it should be zooming since everyone is saying the typical "THANK YOU FOR THE STREAM!" drivel?

>>77411401
Nope

man, are we gonna have to prove pekora is the biggest vtuber right now? should have choose someone then i will have more interest in defending. defend pekora sound like defend billion dollar corporation.

>>77374681
>i want a honest whore
That the funniest shit I heard especially when mouse is the head hocho, even vei, nyanner and silver are more honest than her.

>>77411332
>cherrypicking slow mouse chat
:)
>cherrypicking slow peko chat
:(

>>77411478
No, when they start reading donations everyone leaves. There are only a minority left.
Also the guy admitted that he was lying.

>>77412044
you can dish it out all day but you can't take it

>>77411706
Thank you for admitting defeat, I hope you realize how long you've been crying about this.

>>77412156
You kept crying, I already won this.

>>77412189
>>77412279
>i-i-i-it's manipulated! you're a liar!
>you're crying!

>>77412352