/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>77344301

>>77344301
They only became good after the cancer that was Silver, Vei and Nyanners left

I’m sure you are, vshitshowfag

>>77344301
Only two of them are guys.

>>77344301
Bullied Nazuna, neglected Nyanners and Veibei, didn't help Mouse on her concert
Their talents are better off going indie

>>77344301
Henya's the only good one here

>>77344421
phasebrown moment

>>77344301
>Zen
a individual
>Kekson
love
>Who?
N/A
>Henya
love
>Haruka
Forgets she is in Vshojo
>Geega

>Melody
lovely sex
>IronMouse
Please, just fuck conner already and let him have custoedy over your child!
>Froot
[Unpayed]
>Kuro
Nepohire
>Matara
Hag love
>Michi
Nepohire

>>77344364
they have bigger % of graduation/termination from alltheir talents than niji

>>77344301
I don't watch them but if Matara's made up with Sayu, I've lost my last reason to dislike anybody there. Wish everyone the best.

>>77344405
None of that is true.

Catalog users overwhelmingly do not infact watch vshojo. This is a good thing. It makes them look very silly.

>>77344667
it would burn their entire monthly data cap in minutes

>>77344729
>Makes them load 4 gif emotes everytime I chat

>>77344548
Note none of these resulted in the talent leaving their communities or intellectual property

>>77344819
DUDE...... YOU OUT OF LINE BUT JFC KEK

>>77344341
this pic is so old now... The model she is using debuted in 2022

>>77344863
I see did vshojo make those ip for them to own it in the first place then retard?

>>77344956
What are you trying to deny?

>>77344667
twitch filters sea and thats a good thing

>>77344667
So why is the LATAM defense force here?

>>77344997
Were they forced to give up their ip in order to join, SEAtard?

>>77345017

>>77345031
I think the majority of the chuubas I watch on twitch are from SEA so I don’t know if that’s accurate

>guilt by association
vshojo antis learned nothing huh

>>77344301
They're not. Now you just have an even worse corpo to compare them to.

>>77345159
actually the reason why michi can come out as as a bi is because her indo fans kinda fucked off despite her numbers blowing up nobody cares now if shes doing haram shit

>>77345076
Answer the question retard

>>77344548
...which only proves the basic fact they teach you in Stat 101, that you should NEVER use percentages and ratios with small sample sizes, and give raw numbers instead.
It's literally one of the basic manipulation techniques pulled from the book "How to lie with statistics" by Darrell Huff. Specifically chapter 3, "The little figures that do nothing", if my memory serves me right. Haven't read it in years, but it's a memorable read that sticks to you memory just because of how often in everyday life those are used around

>>77344341
>>77345017
>>77345116
Get some new material, Ennacuck.

>>77345291
It's a moot point anyway because a "graduation" from vshojo is nothing like a graduation / termination in nijisanji.

>>77345338
He is so cool!

>>77345338
he back after being banned from that other thread exactly 3 days ago LMAO

>>77345371
Sure, but I'm not really that invested in vshojo. I just can't walk by when people use those manipulative tactics from 4th grade, especially since they're effective

Here's why Ennacuck and the sisters are mad btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX9l3MsL5Ek

>>77345518
yea you better run faggot lol

>>77345540
i dont get it isnt he basically some faggot on /#/ that was seething when mouse got numbers from playing on that rise server for a week. He was fighting some irysfag too iirc

>>77344548
Quality over Quantity

>>77345624
What kind of revisionism is this shit. The fag was always shitposting about Irys all the time in /#/ using mouse numbers.

>>77345376
It's so sad how you have to rely on clickbait thumbnails for your shitposting, she never said those words in the clip.

looking forward to phase vs vshojo wars

>>77344997
Yes, they did with nazuna. She kept it all when she left.

>>77344364
this

>>77345742
Not this poster but he also makes anti-mouse bait threads, last time he got caught immediately

>>77203035
>>77202882

>>77345624
He's just an IRyS anti and a schizo who keeps falseflagging and trying to bait holo vs vshojo fans into fighting each other to take some pressure away from Niji.

>>77345624
She a just schizo who have a massive hateboner for losing a vsinger spot, i saw the 2022 post someone dig up, she legit a schizo. And now she piggyback ironmouse after using niji because she got the number.

>>77345866
NTA, but so that’s why he kept trying to pit Ironmouse and IRyS against each other recently…
(And by recently I meant over the last 6 months+)

>>77345837
I thought she's still using the miguel cat account

>>77345624
She a schizo who have a massive hateboner for losing a vsinger spot, i saw the 2022 post someone dig up, she legit a schizo. And now she piggyback ironmouse after using niji because she got the number. i suspect it enna or someone close to her, because in her word "choosing irys over enna is the greatest blunder cover have ever made"

>>77346038
she uses both, nazuna when she's on twitch and mike on yt

>>77346038
she uses both, her most recent stream as nazuna was last week
she also has 'vshojo graduate' on her twitter

>>77345076
Depends which agency whether they own the ip or not before joining vshojo. I'm pretty sure jelly can keep her ip if she wish to join vshojo

>>77346106
After all that happened im suprised she still have fans watching her.

>>77346220
Why do people still watch Enna despite doing that stream with diego? That's your answer

>>77344301
>Got sonch
>Bad guys
You pay too much attention to lore

>>77346220
she semi-redeemed herself to me with the timing of her graduation, like she was kind enough to leave and save vshojo from getting involved in the drama by association. don't know if it was just coincidence but it was lucky regardless
it was a bit of a dick move that she took all those resources with the models and assets and stuff and then left but I have to assume that vshojo probably made the money back considering she moved a lot of merch, so in the end no one lost, even the people who love the nazuna design get fed because she still uses it

>>77344301
Ya god damn right, brother.

>>77344301
So is the attempted lynching of Nux AND the involvement in Silvervale getting harassed out the company just forgotten now?

>>77346711
Honestly? Yeah.

>>77346220
Her view count didn't even drop that much after everything happened. It dipped only because she stopped streaming after that

>>77346711
>involvement
they told her "playing this game is probably a bad idea but we won't stop you of course, you're free to do what you like" and then she played it. oh no so terrible

>>77346711
nobody cares about them

>>77345928
he must be really seething that theres a 5th vshojo collab with holo this month lol (michi and ollie)

>>77346038
the girl has like 4-5 fucking accounts man including the 3view wactor one if thats really her

The fact that Ironmouse even associates with pieces of shit like Hasan is a stain on vshojo.

>>77346711
From what I've read Nux ruined an investigation on a doxfag.

>>77346061
well the problem with enna is despite being talented she never practices and is a MASSIVE BITCH

>>77346061
I dunno why that guy is even so bitter enna is a pretty terrible singer overall its just that nijisisters overhyped her because shes the only one there that can barely resemble singing

>>77347295
he filters out the kind of people I detest so it's a big w for some of us

>>77345231
She never had Indo fans she got all fans leeching from Luxiem and Niji EN.

>>77344421
>misandrist
>good one
DYRBI?

>>77347463
filters out normal people?

>>77346935
>>77347310
These two

>>77347437
Her skyfall cover is great and she has other strong songs. I would fuck her till she can’t walk straight but wouldn’t be caught dead collabing on her stream. She’d be fine if she worked hard for something in life, instead she’ll shrink the entire pie just to ensure she gets the biggest part she can.

>>77347851
>otoshi_gami
>normal

>>77346935
Froot literally said her getting harassed for playing the game was her own mistake. When Silvervale left, she exposed the shit out of the company

>>77348364
>Froot says in her own chat while talking to her chat "everyone makes mistakes" while doing an artstream
>silver isn't even brought up
>this was never sent to silver
>she was never in silver's chat
>this single chat message is quickly taken and flipped and edited to made to look like she said it to silver in silver's chat
>silver and froot have never even mentioned each other single time before, during, or after this incident, even when silver left vshojo, she said nothing about froot
>you are here

>>77347463
I don't watch him and the only few times I saw his opinion on something it was utter shit, but honestly I agree he's a good repel for morons

>>77348753
Can confirm, I was in Froot's chat back then. Someone screencapped it and immediately posted it to /vt/ and made a fuss from literally nothing. It was so cringe to watch it unfold

>>77345540
honestly sayu's story is sort of pathetic. She was in nijisanji for like a month and she has been obsessed with the little time she spent there for like a year

>>77348753
>>77348855
this reeks of samefagging

>>77348855
nuh uh froot went into silver's chat and said:
>SILVER YOU ARE A BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER I WILL RAPE YOU WITH MY 50 FOOT FUTA DONG BECAUSE YOU PLAYED HOGWARTS LEGACY ALSO I HATE PHASE CONNECT BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BASED FOR ME AND I AM A STUPID LIBERAL WHO BULLIED PIKAMIN INTO LEAVING HOLOLIVE, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE AGAINST THE IRONFIST CLIQUE YOU WHORE
that's what the twitter people told me

>>77348880
She was just shocked Dokibird got so much more support than she did for the exact same shit both went through.

>>77344301
Until they get rid of the troon and troons' allies, like they got rid of the whores, no.

>>77348880
My rat is that's the main reason why Mata wanted to stay away from her. Imagine how that looks from her POV. You have someone obsessing over you for a long time who even did you dirty and acting a bit yandere

>>77348964
>and troons' allies
but enough about p*ppa and ph*se.

>>77347593
honestly I’ve never seen her before her debut as michi and shes such a good yapper with the dumbest stories and can yap nonstop for 12 hours I gotta wonder how nijisanji failed to capitalize on such a fun streamer

>>77347789
well thats a new rrat you got there sister shame it dosent make sense lol

The only time I ever watch anything from Vshojo is when they collab with Vinesauce or Laimu.

>>77348983
>vshojo thread
>vshojo reply
>phase out of nowhere
rent free

>>77348904
you reek of dandruff

>>77348326
>fucking a wigger’s used seconds
yea no thanks bud

>>77348940
damn I should watch froot more thats kinda based

>>77349008
>makes fun of male sexuality every chance she gets
I don't think a sister would take issue with that, they're also misandrists.
>>77349025
don't forget to buy the "male" socks, phasecuck!

>>77345371
They're not a vtuber agency in the same sense the others are. They don't have auditions (that go anywhere), they only take people who are already successful, and they only provide new models when it's necessary. That's just a regular twitch streamer org that happens to only take vtubers

>>77349025
keep seething about your pippa not looking at your pets more kid

>>77349103
https://vocaroo.com/1nS0YEPIIP4v

>>77349103
>>77349110
>whataboutism

>>77349108
>They don't have auditions
Haruka
>they only take people who are already successful
Froot
>they only provide new models when it's necessary
Vshojo members get far more models to the point that some anons on /vt/ sperg about it.

But yeah, Vshojo is not the same as most other vtuber corpos, I can agree on that.

>>77347295
>pieces of shit like Hasan
As long as it's not Destiny, Vaush, or some cumstain like Sneako or Trainwreck (or any kick faggot), it's ok.
Though Piker still is a boring normie.

>>77349151
>v*car**
drown yourself in a river, faggot.

>>77348986
By folding the ID branch, cutting off all support, and not even trying to salvage those few talents that managed to thrive despite that. It's telling that despite how high she managed to claw herself up, under Niji she got merch only twice - once stuff she had some input in that was basically impossible to buy outside of Japan, and one cheap-ass standeed that she didn't even know about until someone in chat let her know.
I'm glad she's out, happy, and supported now.

>>77344301
Gunrun genuinely seems like a good guy. I only really like some of the vshojo talents, but I don't dislike or hate anyone there. They're okay and they do their own thing in their own corner without being offensive. Most of the ex-nijis that joined them seem happier there. I hope they continue to grow.

>>77349360
>they only take people who are already successful
How big was Michi before? Because she seems to be doing rather good now

>>77349346
ironic coming from the bvtm fandom lol

>>77349651
She was a 4 view in the forsaken nijiID branch so yeah she was popular before she quit.

>>77344301
gaslight more faggot

>>77349108
>they only provide new models when it's necessary
they don't "provide" models because that's not their job, if you want to whine about the other two points then go for it but the third point isn't something they're failing at. they provide a stipend for projects and will pay for the first model because the talent probably doesn't have the up front cash but anything after that is on the talent

>>77349651
According to some numberfag chart that I've run into randomly around the time of her graduation announcement, she was hot on the heels of HoloID in terms of CCV. Consistent, if low end 4view.

>>77349577
keep seething and mining those coals phasekek

>>77348940
BASED

>>77349739
>>77349777
>4view
was that a twitch 4view or youtube 4view?

>>77349795
I'm an indie supremacist, retardchama. both your corpos can die in a fire for all I care.

>>77349833
youtube she had alot of clippers and traffic compared to anyone in niji id far more than hana and alot of haters too because she was constantly shipped with mystia

>>77349833
I don't think there's much of a difference but she was streaming on youtube.

>>77349879
what if a bunch of indies decide to coordinate and make their own corpo then?

>>77349833
YouTube. She didn't stream on twitch in Niji, except maybe a few random times.

>>77349947
They did, Anon. That's literally vshojo.

>>77349761
I'm not whining about anything, I'm saying they're not a conventional vtuber agency. Because one of the things conventional vtuber agencies do is provide models
They are essentially a bunch of indies collected under a brand

>>77349879
>indiesupremascist
lmao thats new did you just randomly reach in your bag of buzzwords pippafag lol

>>77348364
Silver cried about how Mouse was more popular but she never said anything about Froot. The Silver/Froot beef was an invention of 4chan catalogfags.

>>77349879
oh so you’re a seething faggot with a 2 view oshi
makes sense now

>>77344667
>watch vshojo
why would any sane person watch them?

>>77345031
>twitch filters sea
>kuro and michi
the LITERAL SEA MONKEY LMAO

>>77350075
thats why even michi has zero seafags on chat aint it great lol

>>77349725
>turdworlders keep ousting themself with whataboutism
Keep trying and maybe one day I'll be a phasefag and you'll turn white, turdie.

>>77350127
>michi has zero seafags
whos gonna tell this clueless anon? LMAO

>>77350155
ok phasekek be sure to share your time here with bvtm for more content

>>77350176
>she's in SEA therefore only SEA watches her!
And Henya's fans are all Japanese.

>>77349929
>I don't think there's much of a difference
Same content on Twitch has shorter reach hence smaller numbers, but it has an order of magnitude higher conversion ratio than on youtube. If she had 2k on youtube and has now 4k on twitch, that's like advancing to a whole new tier for her

>>77350176
she came out as bi and thats haram plus she now streams on twitch and only does english streams if that didnt filter them out nothing will. maybe if you stop seething and actually watch a stream you would see that oh wait ur a dramakek /pol/ dwelling phase fag never mind never watch her stream pls

I kinda get why trannies decide to fuck over phasekeks now
on offkai kinda deserved tbqh theyre pretty much the cancer of vtubing

>>77350075
They have money to buy proper computers and internet connection.

>>77350208
You're moving the goalposts. You have moved from "Michi has no sea viewers" to "Henya has only japanese viewers" and comparing those two statements.
And yes, Henya has a lot of japanese viewers. It's not that hard to spot japanese in her chat, which you would know if you ever watched her

>>77349947
then they cease to be indies, duh.
>>77349966
except for all the sweet venture capital money they parasitise
>>77349998
>p*ppafag
but enough about (you).
>>77350034
4view, sorry not sorry

>>77344364
Plus Henya joining.

>>77350421
whos your oshi then pippafag lol bet you’re fucking lying and seething

>>77350421
Oh, you mean something unofficial and not on paper?
That's Hanamori then.

>>77350402
They're rich ones who can afford computers so they're a step above the usual /vt/ user.

>>77350460
its nux

How come people who are mad about vshojo always speak in broken english

>>77350248
Yeah, I don't see it ever being really talked about here, but from what I've seen so far one (active) Twitch viewer is worth more than one (active) Youtube viewer.
It is probably the exclusion of certain demographics that tend to be poor.

Of course there are those passive raids with people being afk/sleeping and the Youtube botting, but I'm not including those which is why I said active.

>>77350598
bvtm audience

>>77350421
>then they cease to be indies, duh.
Then what, are you mad about labels?
I'm not a corpo fan either and I prefer indies myself, but the reason I don't like corpos is because of the power imbalance between the company and the talent, and because I care about the talent not the company.
But if indies self organize and share the fruits of their labor among themselves, then that's even better than being an indie

>>77350698
yes, and literally every corpo has its black marks, including vshojo. don't even get me started about ph*se STEALING an invader's IP >>77350460

>>77350776
Oh wow vshojo owns their ip and doesn't need to cultivate them from scratch. I find that a great deal why aren't alot of people auditioning more?

>>77351503
Because they don't have auditions right now and it's not like they are needed anyway when there are many big indies who want to join.

>>77350598
phasecucks

>>77346530
>that emote
It's been a long time, old friend.

>>77349489
Anon, the only difference between Hasan and Vaush/DesTINY is that Hasan is at least nice to look at. He's just as much of a maniac as they are.

>>77351869
man mouse and hasan interactions are so harmless that if i didn't knew him i would think he is just a normal guy. I don't give a fuck about him as long as he act likes a normal person around our girls. Fuck his commie shit.

>>77346711
>hey don’t play this game retards are going around harassing people who play it
>im gonna play it
>waaahhh why didn’t you help me vshojo

>>77352409
all vshojo should've done to not get the black corpo mark is a single official statement telling Silver's harassers to fuck off.

>>77352564

>>77352564
At best this would have accomplished exactly nothing. At worst it would have made harrassers decide the whole company is the enemy and start harassing the other girls too. That's nit a winning move you think it would be anon.

>>77344301
Not really - both their talents and them as an organization have done some stupid / questionable shit - but I think the Niji drama did put a lot of shit into perspective for the fucking idiots on this board, which is nice at least.
>>77344405
>Bullied Nazuna
Total bullshit despite the fact she is a schizo who would have deserved it.
>neglected Nyanners and Veibei
Horrible people who left of their own accord due to unspecified "contract reasons", Nyanners had a fucking concert with Kizuna AI and Vei was probably the chuuba with the biggest push in the company after the Mouse.
>didn't help Mouse on her concert
Don't watch her but probably bullshit

>>77352564
lol retard

>>77351869
I don't pay attention to political streamers, all I know is Vaush is massively into beastiality.

>>77353441
can confirm the concert thing is bullshit. mouse wasn't extremely specific on what happened because she's very aware of her position and is always worried about making outside companies not want to work with vshojo based on her word but the gist is that the production company she hired overpromised on what they could do and she was super disappointed by the outcome

>>77349984
A 2view I watch sometimes called them a "glorified talent agency", which sounds about right to me.

>>77352564
if they did, you'd be posting "all they had to do not to make the situation worse was to stay stfu" now

>>77345017
ironically, hasan didnt say shit in that stream and at the same time Mel was streaming and being way more political talking about how BDSM is ilegal in some states because a judge thought it was amoral or something

>>77352564
>getting the black corpo mark
According to who exactly sister?

>>77354624
It's always hilarious how the catalog pretends Froot is some political streamer when Melody is the one pushing for the rights of sex workers and sexual education

>>77355632
Mel is trying to make more money through her job though, can't blame her

>>77344301
They're good but in the end all of them are whores. So I don't watch them. Simple as.

>May 2024
>mousey: 2.69 million
>the entirety of NijiEN: 1.57 million
I'd be mad too

>>77344301
>Whores, dykes and a faggot
Nope

>>77345338
People will keep bringing it up so long as you guys don't have a response better than accusing everyone of being Ennacuck and telling them to get new material. Bridging the commie tankie and the Vtubing communities in any way shape or form is a fucking disaster and I'll always call her out for it.

>>77355953
>politics is ok when it's to make you money but not when it gives you tits
It's kinda interesting how diverse the political opinions are in this board, while everyone spergs out arguing about it thinking they're in the majority when there actually isn't one here.

>>77357214
I only watch VShojo and I've never seen Hasan on screen, you guys just spam the same clip thumbnails of a few scattered interactions between him and Mouse over the years.

>>77344301
i think i gotta update my ad block. im still seeing these

>>77357214
Mouse had Asmongold on one of her Speak of the Devil podcast and he's the polar opposite of Hasan politically (they even beefed with each other a couple times), she interracts with all kind of internet personalities and not just from youtube.

>>77346447
>she semi-redeemed herself to me with the timing of her graduation, like she was kind enough to leave and save vshojo from getting involved in the drama by association.
I feel pretty negatively about her, but I respect that she broke ties so as not to inconvenience other streamers who had nothing to do with her personal bullshit. Not enough for me to call her a good person, but I acknowledge that she did a good thing.

>>77359421
So she can invite both people who talk with terrorists, and people who kill relatives by negligence, wow

>>77361593
>goalposts: moved
>meds: not taken

>>77353441
>Horrible people
And they say only holofags start to shit on talents after they leave the company.

>>77350698
>because of the power imbalance between the company and the talent
Ok commie, don't forget to watch Hasan stream.

>HASAN HASAN HASAN HASAN HASAN HASAN

>>77363608
You're mindbroken

>>77344301
Nope still wrong

>>77344301
They pretty much singlehandedly got Nux to stop interacting with the Vtuber community, and for that alone, they'll always be heroes.

>>77353359
>At best this would have accomplished exactly nothing.
no, it'd've shown that your corpo actually cares about their talents, as the propaganda says they do.
> and start harassing the other girls too.
funny how that didn't happen when other individuals AT vshojo didn't get the harassment after speaking up in support. it's almost as if you were full of shit and you were never serious about the talent freedom thing.
>>77354064
nope, they'd've earned my respect... but instead they threw her under the bus

>>77366807
I hadn't realized I just kinda stopped seeing that guy's name brought up at some point, but now that you mention it... what happened?

>>77344301
I mean, Vshojo doesn't really do much. They're just doing their medium corpo thing, having fun.

>>77344301
>Man nijisanji turned out to be a nepotistic shithole full of coworker harassment, graduation drama, and unwelcome woke political takes
>Hopefully none of this happens in vshojo

>>77368099
>unwelcomed woke political takes
im glad you are all so easy to filter

>>77368099
To be fair vshojo IS different because if things get toxic you can, in fact, just leave without starting from scratch with your audience, and risking financial instability. The barrier to leaving is way way smaller.

>>77344364
WHERE'S THE MONEY FROOT!?

>>77368394
So is the barrier to enter in the first place, and the requirement to have an existing audience
Niji really complements them

>>77363012
Nyanners is a hypocrite whose opinions change with the tide, and Veibei - while blunt instead of hypocritical - was a selfish bitch. This place used to shit on them all the time.

>>77344301
>Bait
What did niji do this time?

>hating on pink cat
thats how you know thats not a /vsj+/ regular

>>77344301
Tranny, cutie, who? cutie, who? who?
whore, grifter, whore, fag, who?

idk 2 out of 11

>>77369189
Sayu made up with Mata, had a lunch with her, and even hanged out with Mint.

>>77367128
>no, it'd've shown that your corpo actually cares about their talents, as the propaganda says they do.
>propaganda
lmao what kind of retard are you? if talents don't feel appreciated they can leave without problem which means everybody who stays does feel well taken care of.
>And they didn't threw her under the bus.
Nope. They allowed her to play the game despite warning her that it could cause a backlash, they didn't harass her in any way shape or form and if anybody threw anybody else under the bus it would be Silvervale throwing others under the bus because she couldn't handle the backlash she was warned about.

>>77368502
Donated to an animal charity.

>>77346447
>she took all those resources with the models and assets and stuff
Aside from a yearly stipend talents may use to fund their activities, VShojo doesn't pay for models or assets or things like that.

For the record we don't know how much it is but we do know that Henya blew through all of it for her 3D showcase and had to finish funding it herself.

>>77369438
Nijisis is so mindbroken kek

>>77366807
His channel is an actual content farm, wtf is this trash ?

>>77352564
Staying silent was the correct move and anyone with even cursory knowledge or experience in Internet controversy and PR would tell you the same.

>>77369508
>calling trans animal
that's a new low anon

>>77346711
Seeing the reaction this comment has, I would say that the fans even justify the harassment.

>>77369834
nux stopped interacting with vtubers ever since the yab
I think vshojo are clearly heroes here

>>77369508
>if talents don't feel appreciated
goal post moving attempt detected, concession accepted.
>They allowed her to play the game
this isn't the high bar you think it is. not in the west, anyway.
>despite warning her that it could cause a backlash
yes, and it would've taken ONE tweet from the official vshojo account to pay lip service to the trans shit "but please don't harass our talents for playing a fucking vidya kthxbai"

>>77371094
The company shining a spotlight on the harassment is, in all cases, a bad idea.

Do you think Silver's the only VShojo to face harassment? Have you SEEN the way this board seethes about almost every single one of them?

It's one of the oldest rules of the Internet:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

This thread shows that this fanbase is full of trannies and redditors.
Hololive is the only big corporation that is good, the rest is pure cancer.

>>77371359
eat shit nijifaggot you dont even watch streams

>half their roster soon gonna be 50% ex NijiEn
Yeah fuck no

>>77371272
>Have you SEEN the way this board seethes about almost every single one of them?
That's not harassment, moron.
harassment is going to Twitter and their chat to tell them that they have to kill themselves.

>>77371460
>Hololive is the only big corporation that is good, the rest is pure cancer.
>nijifaggot

>>77371543
>harassment is only where I can see it happen
You are so fucking stupid

>>77371709
No, harassment is when you interact with the person directly.
Criticizing someone in a forum is not harassment.

>>77371094
There's no goal post moved. It's one example that Vshojo cares about their talents because they would just leave if Vshojo didn't care for them. If that doesn't satisfy you do you need clips of talents praising vshojo for their help? What kind of proof are you asking for?

>this isn't the high bar you think it is. not in the west, anyway.
No HoloEN or NijiEN talent played the game because they were aware that it might cause issues.
>yes, and it would've taken ONE tweet from the official vshojo account to pay lip service to the trans shit "but please don't harass our talents for playing a fucking vidya kthxbai"
Vshojo cannot stop freedom of speech on twitter and they would look silly for even trying. Your "what if" is pointless and Ironmouse despite defending Silvervale still didn't get "accepted" by the people who attack Vshojo for not making a statement so that already proves you wrong.

>>77371852
You are entirely missing the point of why I mentioned the board.
It's an example of how much hate exists for these vtubers. Use your brain, extrapolate that to the wider audience outside of this board.

Froot, for example. People HATE her. They genuinely talk about her like she's the fucking devil.
Do you think that she isn't getting harassment?

>>77371872
Before Elon bought this site there was no freedom of speech there and cancel culture is not freedom at all, it is quite the opposite.

>>77371543
That's currently still happening to Mouse on tiktok.

>>77371543
You are retarded

>>77372164
This isn’t Twitter you fucking buffoon

>>77372164
Vshojo doesn't own twitter and can't delete any tweets and not letting twitter freaks voice their terrible opinions would also be cancel culture.

>>77372002
then your point is more stupid, hololive members get triple the hate on this board.
Now they even have a moron who harasses them for content.

>>77345017
what are you trying to imply ?

>>77372368
I never said that
>>77372429
That's obvious, but when it's your own fanbase and workers doing the harassment it's another story.

>>77372476
I'll keep walking you through it, then.

My original point was that making any statement about the harassment is a bad idea. It only gives the harassers the attention they want, and at worst can invite more of it.

Then I illustrate that every member of VShojo very likely gets quite a lot of harassment.

VShojo as a company and brand has never once, for any of their talents, made a public statement against harassment. They stay quiet and deal with things behind the scenes as much as possible.

Therefore, this is a company-wide pattern. VShojo "saying nothing" for Silver was not them neglecting or abandoning her. It was them doing as they ALWAYS do in these situations. There was nothing significant about it.

Good or bad, their business model is the future of this industry.

>>77372582
Don't you realize that he is not complaining that she is collaborating with men but with communists?

>>77372610
>but when it's your own fanbase
It isn't and Silvervale has her own mods that can shut up anybody who posts. It's not a situation like with Coco at all where she couldn't even get Cover to ban a list of antis in her chat.
Also no worker harassed her. Silvervale never spoke of bullying either.

>>77372763
No

>>77372763
Did you accidentally post a reply instead of making a new bait thread?

>>77372610
>But when it’s your [headcanon] and your own [rrat from the board]

>>77372709
>My original point was that making any statement about the harassment is a bad idea
and it's a stupid point.

>>77372709
lol yea you aint fooling me falseflaggot

>>77372994
What's stupid about it? Ignoring them is the best possible play to make.

>>77372804
>Silvervale never spoke of bullying either.
No, she said that they abandoned her and left her alone against the wolves.

Why do you keep watching vshojo ?

>>77373076
Looking at the results I would say no.

>>77373110
>>77372803
???
What are you doing?

>>77373086
Ironmouse spoke out for Silvervale and what was the result of that?

>>77373145
What results?

Honestly I'd think after Nijisanji's multiple fiascos people would learn the value of saying less.

>>77373110
Can you draw a circle?

>>77373110
unironically this is what a schizo drawing looks like

>>77371543
It's cute (and very stupid) that you think people from here haven't done that.

>>77373110
The fuck did Galaxy 8 did to you

>>77373149
he ran out of bait and got called out saying we apparenly hate nyanners but lmao so now he just went full all in and randomly wrote words and dragged his face all over the mouse

>>77373486
I swear we have the most schizophrenic antis.

>>77373635
eh as long as they stay out of the general I can't bring myself to care, sometimes they're so insane that it's funny to watch what weird shit they try to generate to express their seethe

>>77373110
I'm cracking the schizo code

>>77371872
>There's no goal post moved. It's one example that Vshojo cares about their talents because they would just leave if Vshojo didn't care for them. If that doesn't satisfy you do you need clips of talents praising vshojo for their help? What kind of proof are you asking for?
sounds a lot like the niji family bullshit, actually. thanks for showing me how much worse the situation really is, anon.
>No HoloEN or NijiEN talent played the game
not western corpos, doesn't count.
>Vshojo cannot stop freedom of speech on twitter
that's not what I said, you goal post moving retard. I didn't say they should've deplatformed the retards who harassed Silver, I said they should've put out ONE press release to even pretend like they were trying to defend her from the mob.
>Your "what if" is pointless
got it, you'll also cheer them on if Henya gets bullied again
>>77372763
>leeching off of venture capital
>future
roru. rumao even.
>>77373221
and I'm grateful that Mouse did... but the corpo didn't. Mouse didn't get the black mark, vshojo did.
>>77373873
kek

>>77374429
>mass reply schizo showing his true colors

>>77373468
Stupid argument, if they did it they didn't do it here.
>>77373274
half of the company resigned due to harassment

>>77373086
>abandoned her
Isn’t this the same silvervale who cried about her numbers being low when she streams at horrible times

>>77376157
and?

>>77374672
explain my colors to the class, faggot.
>>77376157
>muh numbers
every streamer cares, that's how they earn money, retard.

>>77374429
>can't even mention what kind of proof would change his opinion
Well I guess it's fine if you just come out as a mindless vshojo anti. I will focus on streams now.
Btw I defended both Silvervale and Pikamee while they were harassed but I'm also not stupid enough to blame Vshojo for any of it.

>>77376664
>can't even mention what kind of proof would change his opinion
cult-like behavior is always a bad sign. that's why I'm team indie instead of supporting *any* corpo.

>>77376836
blindly hating shit just coz its a corpo is the same shit dumbass

>>77378010
not blindly, I already said why, you just pretend I didn't.

>>77378235
go swallow a knife faggot you are becoming delusional and hating for such dumb shit you are just baiting for attention thar your father never gave you

>>77378449
>go swallow a knife faggot you are becoming delusional
not an argument
>baiting for attention thar your father never gave you
also not an argument, but I have a great relationship with my dad, tyvm

>>77349108
>only provide new models when it's necessary
Like how Ironmouse gets one every 3-4 months to write off taxes?

Please, you must understand, blindly hating on a corporation for fostering ex-livers and treating them with basic human decency is a foreign concept for people from third world countries where most governments are basically a dictatorship. They are taught never to go against the ones in power , question them, or to think for themselves, blindly follow along like cultists, and to never think for themselves.

>>77378861
self report that you don't make enough money to know that "tax write off" is a joke

>>77379350
go back to r*ddit,nigger.

>>77378861
They're not paying for those, she is

>>77380895
also it's roughly one model every month and a half. just 2D models for the last year: two in june, one in august, one in september, one in october, one in december, one in january, two in march. she was also gifted a gloomy bear one in january, and got three 3D models plus a fan one and an unused one as of right now. she has a new one coming out either at the end of this month or in july, and one for the august anniversary
pack rat

>>77376141
>half of the company resigned due to harassment
Your math is bad and quite literally none of them cited harassment as a reason they left.

>>77353603
I don't know much about this vaush fella, but I know we have one thing in common

>>77344301
what a joke.