/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

oh my god numerals

>losing to DEV_IS
oh nyo

>>77114010
>Hololive
Holy shit. That’s a big slice of cake.

A negligible drop

>monkey number image incoming

Come on nijisisters.
Come here.
My mug is empty now,can i get your tears

>With the NBA """"collab"""" (paying them so that YOU can use THEIR team emblems and pretend it's a collab), everything will be all right.

>>77114010
Okay but what the fuck happened to 774?

>>77114140
5 people mogging 30... sisters you gotta step up your game.

>>77114010
Phase
>+196.38% Watch Hours
>More than doubled average CCV
It will be Phase's time to be in the limelight soon

No wonder the chinks are desperately trying to revive hololive over at bilibili

>>77114140
>31 talents losing to a mere 5
AIIIEEEEIIIIAAAIIEEE SISTERS NOT LIEK THIS!

>>77114140
And getting caught up in hours watched by HoloID who as less than 1/3 of hours streamed than nijien

>>77114010
Waiting the fusion dance with the popcorns.

>>77115045
Would you merge that shithole with the main branch, that honestly isn't doing great, but still not getting the amount of shit than en

>>77114010
>advent joined
>holoen total hours barely went up
grim

>>77114010
lol and niji stream hours is like triple that of hololive

>>77114337

>>77115691
Only Biboo is a stream monster out of them. FWMC started strong but fell off. EN hours are still carried by Takamori

>>77114010
>VEE +250%
Sony finally making it?

>>77115691
>>77115829
>barely went up
>increased by 50% compared to last year
???

>>77116072
That's watch hours, because the average number of people watching each stream went up almost 50% (no idea if these stats filter out the bot faggot). Total hours was only up 5%.

>>77116072
632 is not a 50% increase of 605 retard

>all this while having 2000 total stream hours
Kek they are slaving away for nothing
Fucking losers

>>77116370
>>77115790
I didn't even know Nijis streamed that much. I just assumed they were all lazy retards like Luca. Too bad working hard at being a black company still makes you a black company.

>>77114010
>NijiEN now has as much members ad HoloJP
>NijiEN 34 members lose to 5 of Dev_is
oof

>>77116661
One of the biggest touting points from the NDF has been the organs’ total streaming hours. Guess that’s all they have now.

>>77114010
Holy Grim

>>77114010
Can we get the stats of 2022 vs 2023?

>>77116897
Found it
>muh "THE INDUSTRY IS DYING"
lmao everyone recovered except NijiEN

>>77117261
Looks like the impact was negligible

>>77116661
They have more body to throw, it adds up

>>77114010
To this day I still don't fucking know what Neo Porte is...

>>77117261
This is the earliest one. NijiEN is a fucking dead project.

>>77117261
>Viewership cut in half
Neglisanji moment

>>77117261
how could nijien recover when they are actively destroying themselves

>>77117393
>ACCELERATES BACKWARDS
>RIKU SOLUTION: ACCELERATE MORE LIVERS

>>77117393
>0 growth in 3 years
what THE FUCK are they doing

>>77114140
Lmao didnt regloss debut last year??

>>77114448
they lost a couple of their major members, including patra, and is now on life support

>>77114010
>Phase is mogging NijiEN
>REAL

>>77116661
2000 hours spread out over 34 members isn;t really that much

>>77117470
too busy being a black company and filling out the book of grudges to use as smear campaign material when their livers leave, please understand

>>77117261
>>77117393
Grim grim grim years for HoloEN when half the talents AWOL and the China invasion begin on NijiEN. My god.

>>77117470
>0 support from Anycolor
>Constantly alienating their fans
>Can't compete with Hololive
>Can't even compete with random indies
>Investing everything on Luxiem backfired when the chinese sisters started getting bored of them
>And now they have killed their reputation in the west

>>77117261
>>77117393
for anyone wondering vstats charts used to show %change from previous month while the newer ones show %change from a year ago

>>77117954
Imagine the Aftermath of Connect The World 2

>>77114010
Reminder that Elira unironically helped to improve NijiEN numbers.

>>77114010
>flop_is mogging NijiEN, 774, and cuck connect.
Can we change the name of vtubing to Hololive already? This is just pathetic.

>>77114433
>paying them so that YOU can use THEIR team emblems and pretend it's a collab)
Proof?

>>77118606
Hajime and Kanade are both averaging 8-12k, they are growing monsters, Kanade for the retarded streamer experience, Hajime for the little sister experience. I don't know much about the rest of regloss

>>77118848
Raden is a Zatsu beast too and Ao is a dork, Ririka is just acquire taste, but she's great. Watch out Raden, she has a infinity growing potential.

>>77114010
Kek, keep pretending like the majority of NijiEN didn't take long ass breaks for a month or two. And they're STILL above Holo ID

>>77114010
Holy shit, is there any way of saving NijiEN?

>>77119010
Yeah, by publicly executing the clique in broad daylight.

>>77114140
Losing to a single gen alone and it's the weakest gen of all holo lmao

>>77115829
>takamori
here's your (you)

>>77118501
kek

>>77118606
we already have, hololive is vtubing

>>77119010
at this point, not without heads rolling
remember they could've very easily salvaged things had they not tried to double down on their smear campaign. The outrage was already dying down by the time Elira released her black video and everyone would've long since moved on had it not been for it galvanizing everyone who was hoping it was some kind of misunderstanding

>>77119471
>smear campaign
You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means

>>77119558
>IT'S ALL LE MENHERA FAULT
cope and seethe nijinig

>>77119558
>the effort to paint Selen in a negative light backfired, whatever shall we do?!
>I know!
>*stabs her in the back during her Neopets stream*

>>77119685
Making someone look bad by stating facts isn't smearing, you retard. Neither is her melting down at the first sign of resistance. If she couldn't handle being on the internet, the menhera should have stayed cowering in her blanket

>>77119558
A rare sight of a Nijisis who thinks it's not mental. All your friends roped already, follow them please.

>>77119781
>facts
Yeah, those very real facts which never materialized into anything while NijiEN’s actual decline ensued afterward. She even asked for people NOT to harass the organs and put the blame on management, only for the people like Enna to show their spiteful nature again and again.

>>77114337

>>77119897
>those very real facts which never materialized into anything
Materialized her into getting shit canned
>only for the people like Enna to show their spiteful nature again and again.
She literally said nothing about her, you mental patient

>>77114010
>>77114140
My headcanon is Yagoo separating ReGloss so that Cover won't be mogging NijiSanji too much kek.

>>77114010
Why is 774 dying :c

>>77118501
Kek

>>77119010
>don't renew contracts for anyone older than TTT
slowly phase them out. I mean sub1k ccv and they're an active PR nightmare it's not worth it. There's no growth and while they're around the prospects for growth are slim. If TTT/Denauth want to go let them go. No penalties. You need a PR win. Get some Westoid managers/PR staff you just need 2-3 competent people - Nobody in their right mind would ever do Notice of Terminations like that from a Western Corporation. That shit might fly in JP but it doesn't fly is the West. And you motherfuckers did it twice.
>rebrand
The NijiEN brand is toxic. Call it Colorful INC or anything else. Protect your branding on home territory if you're not going to tard wrangle o/s. If you want to do CBDCT stick to that niche. Your current niche is lonely fat fujos - don't debut a cunny which fujos hate in a mixed gen. WTF are you thinking?

>>77116031
Audrey Mina is an algorithm machine

>>77120039
The three stooges volunteered to correct the record, only to be so wholly unconvincing that not even Luxiem can salvage that trash heap now.

>>77117901

>>77119558
>>77119781
"In my opinion, it wasn't a smear campaign"

>>77120039

>>77120039
shit canning be like

>>77120633
>Actual Phasecuck art pretending like they matter
Grim

>>77120633
kek thats's pretty funny

>>77120778
they matter more than nijiEN would ever be

>>77120884
Cool, then why does Vox mog all of them casually? Beat HoloID first then come back, Phasecuck

>>77120884
Holy ESL

>>77121016
>Vox mogs all of them
Ogey nijitard

At what point does Niji cut their losses and close this dead branch

>>77121049
hey at least some ESLs have a functioning brain unlike nijiniggers

>>77121016
IndoGods are higher than both of them.

>>77119010
Not really, even if they had done a dogeza over Selen they would have died a slow death.
There's nothing that can stop apathy if the chinks found a shiny new toy to spend their time on instead of NijiCN; and the few whitoid twittertrannies don't enjoy vtubing in the first place.

>>77121016
>Kindred starts using HoloID as ammunition

>>77121146
>Unironic ESL fag confirming they come out the sweatshop to defend phase
Phasecucks get sadder every day

>>77114010
Vshojo has more viewership this month than HoloEN and Niji EN combined

>>77121238
Sweatshop? You mean nijisanji right? Oh wait you are a nijinigger, no wonder you you keep projecting your cuck

>>77121096
He didn't even land one EWGF that whole stream btw

>>77121465
>ESL fag thinks streaming is as hard as working one of their slave labor jobs
Well this faggot continue to prove he's a brainwashed retard?

>>77121342
>24/7 sleep stream reruns
lol

>>77121140
>losses
They spend pennies on support. Their business model is to pretend to be an actual talent agency just long enough to get people to sign contracts, then surprise it's all underage interns and VTA slave labor.
The branch will still close, but it will be because the company's value tanks so hard that shareholders decide liquidating all assets is less of a loss than continuing to hold.

>>77121342
Now subtract the marathon hours of sleeping, eating, and doing react “content”, and then you’ll be closer to a true answer.

>>77121557
but enough about hololive

>>77121342
>1304 hours vs not even the half
Please stop humiliating yourself.

>>77121623
But that's all the content

>>77121653
I love the taste of freshly picked cherries

>>77121653
>rebroadcast
retard

>>77121623
show me the sleeping in this graph

>>77117591
With patra and met gone they're barely surviving nowadays and it's just haneru as their banner talent, I'm gonna guess they're folding either next year or later this year

>>77118795
https://collection.rakuten.co.jp/feature/nba_nijisanji/jp/
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-nba-set-to-cash-in-with-225m-deal-with-japanese-tech-company-rakuten/

>>77119000
Barely above sister, maybe they should not take breaks at all

>>77121544
Thats cuz I don't work in a sweatshop, nijitard. Why else would I be shitting on niji? You are actually quite stupid lol.

>>77122300
That isn't proof, retard. When did the NBA or Niji say they paid for it?

>>77121544
Lol yea streaming is not hard, why would niji organs keep taking mental breaks? Weak ppl baka
It probably is if you are in nijisanji

>>77114010
>Holo going up
>Niji and Homos going down
You love to see it

>>77122523
???? That's how it works in real world, you pay for nba licensing fees for collab to happen unless they approach you

>>77119000
most njijien "breaks" are just suspensions lmao

>>77114448
If you know anything about 774, you know they've barely been able to keep a positive growth for the past 3 years. Their boom in viewers and the amount of eyes on them was in 2018 and 2019 almost definitively, but for a variety of reasons that're almost entirely the fault of Nanashi's hands going places they shouldn't go or the bullshit he pulled with Camomi, they basically went from an up and coming vtuber otaku's household name to... just kinda being there? To say nothing about the weird groups and restructuring and redesigns and just plain bad support. I still don't understand how Rantarou went from collabing with fucking Kanae and making great content with a large variety of people as the perfect collab partner to barely 3view status, but I blame Nanashi.
>>77122265
Frankly I don't even think those two have much to do with it. I mean fucking obviously they do, they were the biggest across the company, but Messan's fans were almost in a complete vacuum compared to the rest of the average 774 fans and Patra's one of those people who has completely separate fanbases. The Denpa crowd, the people who watch her game streams, and the ASMR crowd. There's always some crossover internally but it's not nearly as big as you'd think it is even despite her big numbers, to say nothing of externally. Though her disconnect from the rest of 774 was never as big as Messan's was and any attempts at comparing them would be innately retarded.

>>77120079
nijisanji is so black that he would rather compete with himself

>>77122523
>That isn't proof, retard.
That is literally proof of licensing. When you work with a middleman, you meet with just the middleman. That's the whole point of a middleman.

>>77119000

>Kek, keep pretending like the majority of NijiEN didn't take long ass breaks for a month or two.
>breaks
lol

>And they're STILL above Holo ID
Sisters, let's take a look at the numbers, shall we?

>NijiEN: Total view hours -> 1,570,354
>HoloID: Total view hours -> 1,511,301
>NijiEN wins by 59,053 hours

Now, let's keep going to give more context to those numbers:

>NijiEN: Total Stream Hours-> 1922
>HoloID: Total Stream Hours-> 617

>NijiEN: Number of streams -> 494
>HoloID: Number of Streams -> 188

>NijiEN: Number of talents -> 34
>HoloID: Numbers of talents -> 9

...Do you see the problem here?

>>77122523
Wait... are you arguing that the NBA gave Nijisanji the license for FREE?
Holy shit.

>>77122872
>When you work with a middleman, you meet with just the middleman
Working with a middleman isn't proof they paid to get licensed, retard. They said it's a collaboration so that's what it is

>>77123558
Cool, show me the NBA talking about this "collaboration" with Nijisanji.

>>77123040
But what happened? I thought NijiEN was dead. But by this same logic , HoloID must also be dead. Did the blue Dorito not carry them to relevancy?

>>77123611
Nope, that's irrelevant. How hard NBA markets the collaboration doesn't matter. Show me the proof that Niji paid the NBA for the collaboration

>>77123558
Anon, it is a Rakuten collab. Rakuten is the licensor and broadcaster of the NBA in Japan, AKA the middleman for this collab specifically. You watched the stream so you can tell us: has the NBA provided anything to this collab beyond simply their name? Are there any games they're going to be shilled at? Any sponsorship tags on anyones jersey? Any mentions on any given sports network?

>>77123707
Learn to read
>>77123686

>>77123634
I know reading can be somewhat hard for you, so just try to look at the colors of this picture. I'll help you out:
>Red is bad
>Green is good

NijiEN is declining. HoloID is inclining. NijiEN BARELY managed to beat HoloID on watched hours while having 30 more members.

>>77123686
>Show me the proof that Niji paid the NBA for the collaboration
Clarify. If you're saying you believe that the NBA paid Nijisanji then you're just baiting. They're not Huel.

>>77123686
>Nope, that's irrelevant
Nah, it's absolutely relevant. If it was a collab then the NBA would have talked about it. Show me proof that the NBA has even acknowledged this "collaboration".

>>77123809
I'm saying it's a collaboration. You're saying Niji had to pay for the licensing. Where's the proof?

Show me the ticket sale-wait, wrong time loop

>>77123773
But even while declining, they can't beat a dead branch with most of it's members going on a two month long break? What happened to the blue Dorito brand?

>>77123738
I just now read the post and now I'm baffled you're implying that the NBA wanted to pay Nijisanji. You could group up every single members peak viewership across the entire companies history and assume every viewer is a completely unique person and you still wouldn't reach even 10% of the NBA's viewership. They have literally nothing to gain from Nijisanji.

>>77123897
Mind broken

>>77123867
Do... do you think they just shook hands and went "yeah you can use our IP without paying us a single dime while you keep 100% of the profit off merch"?

Are you insane?

>>77123925
Still waiting on the actual evidence that Niji paid the NBA. Quit your crying and get to proving

>>77123634
4% difference in hours watched with NijiEn with 22 less organs and 1/3 of number of streams. If HoloID is irrelevant, what is nijiEN? Because if they have TRIPLE the CCV than NijiEn.... sister...

>>77123999
They didn't pay the NBA. They paid Rakuten and Rakuten will send a portion of their profits to the NBA at some point.

>>77123969
Yes because that's what collaborations usually do. How is this any different from a collab cafe or the Sanrio collab? You faggots are just seething over your witch hunt not being successful. Prove they paid or you're full of shit

>>77123913
>But even while declining, they can't beat a dead branch with most of it's members going on a two month long break? What happened to the blue Dorito brand?

Sister?

>NijiEN: Total Stream Hours-> 1922
>HoloID: Total Stream Hours-> 617

>NijiEN: Number of streams -> 494
>HoloID: Number of Streams -> 188

>NijiEN: Number of talents -> 34
>HoloID: Numbers of talents -> 9

You DO understand what those numbers mean, right? How about the ones of pic related?

>SEAsister doesn't understand how franchising works
>anons jump on her for this
Guys please understand no company actually wants to market themselves in Indonesia so she can't wrap her head around it, don't be too mean to her.

>>77124070
Sister, don't ignore me, show me proof that the NBA has acknowledged the "collaboration".

>>77124074
It means exactly what I said. How come Niji is still beating out ID if they're dead? What happened? They were on leave for two months so it should have been easy

>>77124135
Nah, I'm not wasting my time with this one.

>>77124070
Now you're implying fucking Sanrio took zero dollars from their collabs with Nijisanji, and not just Nijisanji but every company they've ever worked with?

>>77124129
Not how it works, faggot. You said that Niji paid for licensing while they said it's a collaboration. You need proof or else you're full of shit. The NBA not marketing it isn't proof

>>77124074
You're arguing with a retard that knows well their branch is not doing any good, don't bother wasting your energy lmao

>>77123686
There you go sis.

>>77124221
The sister will say "that's annual so its not relevant" and continue to imply they did it for free, without realizing that this still directly and factually applies to Rakuten, the people Nijisanji are collabing with.

>>77124194
I didn't imply shit, you ape. You argue like a woman, prove Nijisanji paid the NBA to get the collaboration or you're full of shit.

>>77124196
It's exactly how it works. If it's a collaboration, then both parties must acknowledge it. Now, show me proof that the NBA has acknowledged the "collaboration".
>The NBA not marketing it isn't proof
I'm just asking for a simple press release. A tweet will do.

>>77124289
You literally just said
> How is this any different from a collab cafe or the Sanrio collab?
AKA that Nijisanji and potentially every single other group that's ever worked with them didn't pay Sanrio for the rights to use Sanrio characters. You know, the Hello Kitty people? One of the largest mascot franchises in the world?

>>77124289
there, retard.
>>77124221

>>77124221
That isn't proof of Nijisanji paying for the collab, faggot. They aren't even selling apparel. How desperate are you?

>>77124376
You are an absolute retarded person, your caretaker should take your tablet away from you

>>77124302
>If it's a collaboration, then both parties must acknowledge it
And they did by allowing them to sell NBA merch. You're aping out over the NBA not marketing it.
>>77124349
Proof they had to pay Sanrio instead of Sanrio and Nijisanji collaborating like they said?

>collab
>>>>>>>collab
>>>>>>>>>>>>>”collab”

>>77124376
>They aren't even selling apparel.
So then if they're not selling anything, why the hell would the NBA collab with them?

>>77124444
I accept your concession, retard. Come back when you have actual evidence that Niji paid to sell NBA merch

>>77124486
>And they did by allowing them to sell NBA merch.
Nope, that's just Niji buying the license.
>You're aping out over the NBA not marketing it.
Again, a simple press release will do. Anything, really.

>>77124117
I made this post as a joke but reading this woman go on and on I genuinely believe from the bottom of my heart she actually doesn't understand how it works.
It's honestly a bit depressing...

>>77124504
Apparel isn't the only kind of merchandise, do you not know what apparel means? Is this board full of SEA monkeys?

>>77124135
by sheer ammount of streamers
by your logic it is better to have 200 finanas sucking bottom of septictank than one pekora getting same ammount of views while still getting less money to company

>>77124376
>Not selling
.......

>>77124590
>a FUCKING acrylic stand

>>77124558
>that's just Niji buying the license.
Proof? You don't have any. Keep seething. Next you'll say because the NBA didn't market NBA jam then the devs paid to make an NBA game

>>77124637
... Do you not know what kind of merchandise they're selling?

>>77124649
Ok, so you don't have even a simple press release of the NBA acknowledging that Nijisanji exists. Interesting. It's almost like Niji just bought the license to sell merch.

>>77124717
>FIFA never marketed the new FIFA game directly so EA paid FIFA to make the game
This is your logic. No evidence, no braincells. Just straight up schizophrenia

>>77124805
they do pay to FIFA... anon are you ok?

>>77124805
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/10/sports/soccer/fifa-ea-sports.html
Might want to pick a better example sister.

>>77124696
You have to pay the NBA for any merch you sell with they trademark, an annual fee as a guarantee to cover the minimum sales required to be a "partner" of 45 to a 100k depending on the type of merch and after the minimum depending on the contract it's usually between a 12 and a 30%.

>>77124805
>https://inside.fifa.com/media-releases/fifa-diversifies-its-gaming-rights-and-launches-new-non-sim-football-games
The FIFA has acknowledged their collaboration with EA plenty of times. Again, I'm not talking about marketing, I'm just asking for a press release.

>>77124805
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/10/14/ea-will-probably-rename-fifa-rather-than-pay-fifa-1-billion-to-renew-rights/?sh=3a0539f86040
okay lol

I love the smell of sisters getting BTFO in the morning.

>>77124805
>As EA Sports and FIFA had failed to reach an agreement over licensing fees for the use of the FIFA name, FIFA 23 became the last installment of the game developed by EA Sports under the name

>>77124805
EA losing the FIFA license was literally one of the biggest normiegamer things to happen in the past few years.

>>77125000
does it smell nice?

>>77125000
Must get tiring, having to smell that every morning.

>>77124929
>>77124940
Stop running around the argument and prove that Nijisanji paid the NBA to license merch. By your same train of thought, Hololive paid the Dodgers

>>77125051
NTA but it probably smells like burning trash, pagpag runs through her veins.

>>77125101
>By your same train of thought, Hololive paid the Dodgers
I... no shit sherlock, of fucking course they did? It's not a negative thing to pay a larger company or group to work with you sister, that's just business. Everyone's gotta make a profit somehow.

Wait, this whole time were you mad about the idea of Nijisanji paying the NBA?

>>77125000
>You see if I continue not proving my made up bullshit but am able to prove something completely unrelated, I'm the winner!
Waiting for the evidence

>>77125101
Dodgers paid to holo as they wanted that collab or holo got it for free. Party that wants or iniates partnerahip almost allways is paying other party.

>>77125101
I'd imagine Hololive did pay the Dodgers, yeah. They're going to be in their stadium. That's how these collaboration deals work, everyone gets a cut of the money to some degree.

>>77125200
>Nijisanji only paid the NBA to get the license. It's not a big deal, it's only because they're rich
>Hololive paid the Dodgers for inaccessible merch and to sing a baseball song at their stadium? THIS IS BIG FOR HOLO

interesting

>>77125299
Not what I said but I'll clarify for you.
>Nijisanji paid Rakuten for the NBA license that Rakuten owns in Japan
>to make merch using the NBA's teams and logos and the like
>split of said merch is going back to Rakuten
>split of that is going back to the NBA

>Hololive collabs with the Dodgers
>announces on reveal they're doing a variety of things including
>showing up at the stadium to sing take me out to the ballgame
>merch and cards
>and a concert with a drone show
>Hololive pays cut of the money they make to the Dodgers directly
So far we don't know if Niji will show up at any NBA games, which would be the only proof of them working directly with the NBA. They'd still lose in terms of content as there literally can't be a concert or half-time show but you'd at least get that minor win.

>here’s how being a chinese slave is a good thing
Kek, the absolute state of the NDF

>>77125101
Of fucking course hololive paid the dodgers for this, no doubt about it, but hololive is not the one with a branch on the brink of fucking bankruptcy, 3 failed branches, talents crying for spilling stew because they can't afford food, and it's a fucking event to show off hololive in an event in LA, not a chinchong merch drop, of copy/paste fucking acrylic stands, button badges and key chains.

>>77125535
So essentially collaborating with the entire basketball association isn't as impressive as the collaboration with a single baseball team because they got to sing a song at a stadium? At least the average person can get the NBA merch. You fuckers can't even show up to hear the single song

>>77125577
So it's just typical Holofag faggotry. I accept your concession

>>77125732
What do you believe is the overlap between Uki’s faggot ass and the Bucks’ average viewerbase?

>>77125732
>At least the average person can get the NBA merch. You fuckers can't even show up to hear the single song

>>77125732
You didn't get to the part of the concert I believe. And while the NBA means nothing in japan, baseball is the nº1 game. But you only care about chinchongs I get it.

>>77125811
Yeah, this sister is too brainrotted, it's not fun anymore

>>77125732
Yeah, because if the average NBA fan doesn't know it exists then it's not much different than a Summertime Memories merchline of t-shirts, accessories, hats, acrylic stands and other related things for Nijisanji. Meanwhile Hololive has a presence at a baseball game to a stadium of at absolute most 56k (though lets be honest if even 20k are sticking around for the concert I'd be shocked) who have no idea they even existed.

>>77125811
>the average person
Might just be a thirdie, come to think of it.

>>77125811
NTA but is the concert available for online viewing? I didn't watch the stream.

>>77126034
I believe it does. National TV and online streaming. All past events of MLB night were like that.

>>77125732
>So essentially collaborating with the entire basketball association isn't as impressive as the collaboration with a single baseball team because they got to sing a song at a stadium?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHsrQ-SFkUo&t=66s

>>77125811
Ok, go ahead and fly to LA then buy a ticket to the dodgers game to listen to a single minute long song and buy an overpriced baseball jersey only available at the stadium. Keep on pretending like the NBA merch isn't actually accessible, Holobrony

>>77119257
The two ENs that stream the most make up the plurality of EN's streaming hours, yes
I'm not sure what you meant by this

>>77126229
Why would I want to do that? What the fuck are you even talking about? Will you, for the love of god, stop trying to move the goal and show me proof that the NBA has acknowledged the "collaboration"?

>>77114010
How many more threads do we need on this

There are just too many vtubers to keep up with, all those indies and new waves. No one is adding hours to your life.

>>77114010
wait am I reading this wrong? is Kaela literally half of all ID's watch time combined?

>Still no proof that Nijisanji paid for the collaboration
>Btw the Dodgers totally paid Hololive for the collaboration because... Because they just did okay?!
Holofags ain't sending their best.

>>77126462
>Btw the Dodgers totally paid Hololive for the collaboration because... Because they just did okay?!
Literally everyone has said the exact opposite. Not our fault you can neither read nor understand how business transactions work.

>>77126327
So you won't actually go to the stadium even though it's where all of the collaboration is? You're the average Holofag then . Still waiting for the proof of the claim you made

>>77126522
>space before punctuation
Post pics of your tickets from the last event you went to then, sister.

>The sister is so embarrassed about her FIFA fuck up that she is doing her best to pretend to be a shitposter

>>77126545
Don't have to go to a basketball game to get the merch. You cucks don't want to be reminded of your embarrassment that happened when you tried invading /sp/ and revealed the average anti Niji drone is a SEA fag. The dodgers collaboration is a flop

>>77122523
anon...holy shit...

>>77126563
>A completely irrelevant analogy wasn't factually correct! You lose!
Holokiddies are back at it again

>>77126462
Seriously though, why are you so hung up on the idea of paying for a collaboration being a bad thing? That's literally how royalties and other similar split-cut transactions behind every business works, it's the basics of that shit. It's like getting mad about a woodshop paying less for bulk lumber.

>>77126522
"average holofag"
Hololive events always sell out, vtubers thriving with support. An average holofan is a 100 times better than a fucking sister who spends their time on nyfco, reddit, 4chan and twitter shitting on everyone while their "livers" have a slowly death at 400ccv

>>77126752
>irrelevant
Cool, give us another one.

Im preflex on how sister can mentally slitter their way on a debate. i applaud them on how they cant accept reality.

So sister lemme break it down to you

Cover had a collaboration deal directly with LA dodger

The LA Dodger x hololive collab has

1. Free holo card using hololive code upon buying a entrance ticket
2. Hololive art plastered across mlb dodger website and even hololive collab merch
3. Stadium presence ie concert and photo booth + drone show

Anycolor had a "collaboration" deal with nba via rakuten

1. Generic merch plastered with the nba logo

So if the nba did have a "collaboration" with anycolor. we should see any info of this on their website or even ingame like a shout out from them like how the holoxdodger collab is doing right now. anycolor paid rakuten a licensing fee so they can have approval to use the nba logo on their merch as rakuten has a marketing deal with the nba thats why the niji merch can he found on the rakuten website instead of the nba shop.

Obviously the NBA paid Nijisanji to sell merch on their behalf, OBVIOUSLY, there ain't no other way around it.

>>77114010
I wonder what those 5 streams over 30k ccv could have been since last year...

I really do think this sister thinks "paying to work with bigger names outside of the vtuber sphere" means "noir filter shady deal in an alleyway on a rainy day".

>>77119471
Even if Selen's termination got erased from history, I don't think anything would've changed. NijiEN has been dying for a long time and Pomu quitting was the final nail in the coffin.

>>77126840
>Free holo card using hololive code upon buying a entrance ticket
So it's a piece of paper
>Hololive art plastered across mlb dodger website
Keep pretending like this is a big deal
>hololive collab merch
Overpriced jersey only available at the dodgers stadium
>Stadium presence
They're singing a single song for a minute
>photo booth
Paper cut outs

Still waiting on the actual evidence that Niji paid for the collaboration while Hololive didn't pay the dodgers. The NBA merch is at least actually accessible, faggot

>>77127339
No seriously, can you explain to us why you're so against the idea of any Vtuber group paying for the rights to use any Sportsball groups image? What is even bad about that in the first place?

ANONS!! YOU HAVE TO HURRY! ONLY 500 TICKETS LEFT FOR HOLOLIVE NIGHT AT THE DODGERS STADIUM!

>>77127414
Because of double standards. Now show the proof

>>77127561
That's the joke. They have no proof.

>>77127561
What do you mean double standards? I agree with you 100% that both vtuber companies paid for the rights to sell things with the Sportsball's brands.
Again, I asked you a simple question: why are you adverse to the idea of business deals? This is how this works for everything, everywhere: nothing is free. Everyone pays a cut, AKA pays. Why does that idea sound "wrong" to you? Can you explain?

>>77126840
I wonder if Nijisister will keep this absurd war LARP going after Niji EN gets axed

>>77126809
Anon? We are waiting.

>>77127647
Well if Holobronies are saying the NBA collab isn't impressive because they "paid for it" then why is the Holo Dodgers Collab a big deal? Double standards? There's no proof they both had to pay for the collaboration and it wasn't some other kind of deal. So there should be proof

>>77127657
WWE all stars. Next

>>77127754
No, we are saying it's not impressive because they are only slapping the team logos on cheap merch, and the NBA isn't even acknowledging that Nijisanji exists, so calling it a "collab" is being extremely generous to say the least.

>>77127754
idk sister, because they will peform in US National Television, making this one of the biggest exposures of v-tubers to the US Market? What will Niji do? Make Vox show his dick in a NBA half-time?

>>77127754
>Well if Holobronies are saying the NBA collab isn't impressive because they "paid for it" then why is the Holo Dodgers Collab a big deal?
Where are you seeing that in this thread? The majority of people I've seen shitting on it are shitting on it because the idea is that they only got it through Rakuten, but even if we ignore that idea as some non-truth that still doesn't answer the question of why you believe there to be something wrong with "paying for a collab" in the first place, as EVERY big collaboration has both sides making money. How could Sanrio make any money from the Nijisanji collab if Nijisanji was the only one selling Sanrio merch, for example? What are you problems?

>>77127754
Nah, we can stop talking about the Dodgers event, there is only 521 seats left out of 51k. it's over.

>>77127754
NTA, Stop talking about double standards and proof, everyone knows you need to pay fees to the bigger party.
Now answer that guy question. AGAIN, STOP ASKING ABOUT THE DODGERS & NBA LIKE A BROKEN RECORDS.

>>77114010
The whole market for male vtubers just fucked off lol

>>77127754
No people are saying it isn't impressive because the NBA basically has no idea who Nijisanji is, beyond some group giving them a paltry amount of money through that Rakuten deal they made 10 years ago.

>>77127339
>So it's a piece of paper
A piece of paper that holds more value than whatever merch slop shittersanji manages to puke out, talking about paper enna's birthday got mogged by a piece of paper via dookiebird kek friendly reminder

>Keep pretending like this is a big deal
It is you fucking retard tranny more eyes on Hololive means more potential brands might want to collab with them

>Overpriced jersey only available at the dodgers stadium
see my first point

>They're singing a single song for a minute
Holy shit you also hate shittersanji you want Hololive to slaughter them by more than 1 minute? Just stop watching them if you hate them so much

>Paper cut outs
again see my first point

>>77127973
There was never a market for them in the west. The only ones watching them were from asia

Niji makes a merch deal with rakuten calls it "nba collab" when it only promotes NBA. WINNERS.
Hololive makes an event deal with the dodgers to promote hololive across the US. LOSERS!

>>77127754
Are you the same woman who thought Luca was underaged, and then proceeded to prove he wasn't underaged in the very same thread by saying he has a late birthday meaning he'd be 18 by the time he even met Raziel? I'm starting to recognize your typing style.

>>77127810
I can find plenty of interviews with professional wrestlers talking about the game and even press releases of the WWE acknowledging its existence. Again, I'm not talking about marketing, so show me some proof that the NBA has acknowledged the "collaboration". A tweet will do.

>>77127864
>they are only slapping the team logos on cheap merch,
As opposed to Hololive slapping a team logo on overpriced inaccessible merch
>NBA isn't even acknowledging that Nijisanji exists
I have yet to see any actual argument explaining why the fuck that matters that isn't just schizophrenia. The NBA marketing it doesn't matter

>>77127339
>The merch is the only thing that exist, so I'm gonna buy it and win.
Fucking hell I am born in the wrong part in the world, hutdwellers are retarded and will get scammed and be happy because of it. Why everyone else but Nijisis actually have a brain?

>>77128152
I've yet to see a woman as obsessive as you

>>77127339

Sister no one is saying that hololive did not pay the dodger. they do have merch cut with the dodger but this is a direct collaboration itself with cover/hololive and LA dodger meanwhile the Anycolor so called collab is an indirect one and is just a licensing deal with rakuten as they have a marketing partnership with nba and this collab with niji is via rakuten and Anycolor did bought a licensing deal with rakuten to have the rights to use the nba logo on this so called "collab" thats why you dont see any promotional info coming from the nba itself like this https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/tickets/specials/hololive?partnerId=redirect-lad-hololive.. The niji merch is only available on the rakuten website meaning that the nba has no direct involvement on thus so called collab with them

Sister just take the L as after the Q4 report you will be seething much harder than this

>>77128230
You've only got a reply for that one post? Multiple other anons gave you a variety of different arguments, why'd you pick just that one?

>>77128230
>As opposed to Hololive slapping a team logo on overpriced inaccessible merch
Not the point.
>I have yet to see any actual argument explaining why the fuck that matters that isn't just schizophrenia. The NBA marketing it doesn't matter
Ok, so the NBA doesn't consider it a collab and Nijisanji only bought the license to slap the team logos on cheap merch. Got it.

>>77128230
>In a collab, the other side showing the collab it doesn't matter.
Jesus the goalpost moving will ever end, put it down and use it to rope yourself, it will be less degrading that clowing from us. I though you finally grew a second brain cell and decided to fuck off, but here you are back, Nijisis, clowining for us. Dance monkey dance, we are all laughting but you are too retarded to see.

>>77128318
Because Paki-chan lives in projection, their strategy is just "Say Hololive is worse because yes"

>>77128230
Oh so you ADMIT the NBA isn't marketing it?
Yeah you're definitely the same Lucuck I mentioned, you're disproving your own point once again.

>>77128286
Stop using a mirror Nijisis, you are fooling no one.

>Why would it matter that the NBA isn't marketing it????

>>77114010
>NijiEN officially now below not only vshojo but also phase
>pretty much neck and neck with idol too
>even the new pixellink girls, a literal microcorp, are getting niji numbers now
Absolutely dead branch holy shit.

>>77128318
No they didn't. It's the same argument on loop.
>They paid to get the NBA license through Rakuten
Proof?
>How would the NBA profit?
A cut of the merch
>U R PERSON FROM DIFFERENT THREAD
You're an ape foaming at the mouth
>It's not a collaboration because the NBA isn't shilling them directly
It doesn't fucking matter. Show me proof

>>77128420
Please understad her mental capacity is at its limit with all the hoops and goalpost movemeny she is doing while seething

>>77128230
Literally the entire point of these major outside collabs is to get new eyes on the Vtuber scene. You saying
>The NBA marketing it doesn't matter
is basically the exact opposite of what any sensible group would be aiming for.

You want the NBA to market it more than anything else. The fact that they aren't means Nijisanji either got a really REALLY bad deal, or the NBA isn't involved in any capacity.

>>77128499
>>How would the NBA profit?
>A cut of the merch
So you admit that Nijisanji is paying them then? Why have you been bitching about Nijisanji totally not paying anyone for the entire thread then?

>>77116661
It's mostly carried but a small amount of people and when you consider how many hires they have it's not a lot

>>77128499
Yeah, you tell them sister!! Make them proof to us that a 130billion industry is letting us use their branding to sell merch because we are number one!!!!

>>77128499
>Selling merch that won't break even
>"You see, the collab is a amazing idea!"
Nijikeks everyone.

>>77128295
Stop time looping this same argument. You have no proof that this happened past schizophrenic babbling. Show me the proof. This retarded logic is essentially
>They didn't talk about it so it didn't happen
I guess your parents fucking and having you squirm out of your mother's womb didn't happen too

Nah, I can't believe this is a genuine sister.

>>77128511
The NBA name in of itself is the marketing, you retard. The NBA games barely get shilled by the company itself and they still make a shit ton of money. Same with NBA jam. Stop making this retarded argument

>>77128683
Either a Niji intern of Uncle Biff time to defend the pussy he won't ever get lmao

>>77128734
>The NBA name in of itself is the marketing, you retard.
If I say I have a collaboration with the NFL, but the NFL doesn't make any mention of me, am I getting any viewership from the NFL? Or, as one would put it, promotion from the NFL?

This is "post the ticket sales" all over again

>>77128734
EA isn't shilled by the NBA?!?!?!? holy fuck I expect that most weebs don't watch sports, but that is deranged

>>77128734
What the fuck do you mean the NBA games aren't getting shilled by the NBA? Is that english? They're literally on sports networks!

Nothing more entertaining than watching the infighting between Niggersanji and their Whorolivers. Keep dancing for me, monkeys.

>>77128846
If you make an NFL game and you announce and market that you're making an NFL game, you are getting people who like the NFL to buy the merch. Because making an NFL game is the marketing, you retard. This is how sports games get marketed

>You have better chance to train an old dog than whipping one average retarded sister into shape

>>77128846
anon it's more simpler than that.
>Do a collab
>one of the parts doesn't collab
>Still call it a collab even if the other part doesn't directly or indirectly mentions you
This is the whole NBA x Niji shit

>>77128872
Find me NBA jam getting shilled by the network

>>77129005
>If you make an NFL game
Not what I said: I said if I have a collaboration with the NFL. On top of that you comparing it to games undermines your own point, as games are things that reach wide audiences. Who the fuck is going to find this link?
https://collection.rakuten.co.jp/feature/nba_nijisanji/jp/

Keep going sister, maybe tomorrow NBA will finally acknowledge this "collab" lol

>>77129005
>NFL game
>changes her mind midsentence
>NFL merch
How the fuck is an NFL fan going to know about some merch from a foreign country being sold by a group that can't even reach 4k people?

>>77129199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BMCElMAew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VF4YRQpkmE

Watched hours is too impacted by streamed hours to have it as a prime "viewership" metric.

I prefer average CCV and channel views.

>>77129199
The last NBA jam was released 13 years ago you fucking retard

>>77129562
>Shows commerical produced by the Devs
I said the network, not the devs.

>>77128626
Same thing to you sister with your mental retardation. Here sister is the proof https://collection.rakuten.co.jp/feature/nba_nijisanji/en/

Why would a merch collaboration with nba is listed under the rakuten website which do have a marketing deal with nba instead of i dunno directly on the nba webstore if its a direct collaboration?

Collaboration sister is a two way involvement. i shill your product snd you shill mine while licensing deal is paying a company to use their brand on top of paying company brand. It might be hard to gradp with how mentally deficient you are and 0 knowledge on how business works. Do as a favor and do not reproduce and make your gene extinct so as to not endanger your soon to be child with your mental illness and retardation

>>77129888
NBA Jam died 13 yeras ago, the main baskjetball game is from 2k games.
https://nba.2k.com/ they have their subdomain under the nba domain.

>>77130048
>https://nba.2k.com/ they have their subdomain under the nba domain.
retard
2k.com is the domain
nba is the subdomain

>>77130020
That isn't proof, you faggot. Come back when you have actual evidence instead of time looping then crying into your pillow because Niji isn't dead

>>77129888
The commercials produced by the devs that has real life footage that was definitely aired on the sports channels along with plenty of others prior to its release? Hell if anything, you arguing NBA jam didn't have much production value to it proves your own point wrong even further, since if they had to choose a single channel to air a commercial on it'd be ESPN or ABC.
If you're asking for a live recording of any entire NBA game with commercials not edited out then I don't know what to tell you other than that's impossible to search for.

You bunch of retard are being oneguyed by a retarded troll or sister with no live, what the fuck are you doing? Clearly is retarded to defend nijisanji in this shitshow and you are trying to convince a troll.

>>77130516
Well in this thread it's basically been confirmed to be a sister whose been popping up in basically every other Niji-related thread. If she has a total mental breakdown and stops coming to this website, we'd see like 30% less sister posts.

>>77129709
Their average CCV is down 45% compared to last year, I don't think people really track channel views that much because music and shorts skew the numbers so much

>>77130357
So the devs paid to make a game and paid to air their commercial on ESPN but there's no actual acknowledgement from the NBA themselves of collaborating to make NBA jam? So NBA jam wasn't a collaboration between the NBA and the devs

>>77131111
If it's being aired on the channel the NBA games air on, as you've already conceded, then it's being aired during the games. As in, it's being promoted in the exact space that the promotion would reach the most people directly interested in the product.

How are people into the NBA going to find out about Niji's merch? Can you answer this question?

>>77130516
Holy ESL. Pick up an English textbook and start studying instead of playing in the mud

>>77131182
>then it's being aired during the games
How old are you? It's aired in between games. It's a fucking commercial. Companies don't call airing a commercial on a network a "collaboration", you retard.

>How are people into the NBA going to find out about Niji's merch?
The Internet, you retard

>>77130516
Retard's funny. I want to see her next copium or mental gymnastic she will pull next

>>77131340
>It's aired in between games. It's a fucking commercial.
Which is significantly more promotional than a link to a Japanese website that you'd only find if you explicitly followed Nijisanji.
>The Internet
So not the NBA? So they're also not promoting Nijisanji? Anymore concessions you've got for us sister, or are you going to go to bed soon?

>>77131340
>sister actually gave up on the idea that the nba is promoting niji in frustration
Love to see it, now pop a blood vessel and don't come back.

>>77131486
>Which is significantly more promotional
But it's not the NBA directly marketing the game, dumb fuck. That's what you're supposed to prove which you already admitted that you can't
>So they're also not promoting Nijisanji?
I guess putting the NBA name on Niji merch isn't a promotion? Same time looped argument. Why in this whole thread could you not conjure up proof of the payment Niji made for licensing?

>>77114140
AIIIEEEE TASUKETE RIKU-SAMAAAA

>>77131803
It is literally the NBA directly marketing the game. If it airs during their commercial time in a game then it is effectively the NBA promoting it. And you've already proven you believe it was a small game with no NBA support, meaning there's no other recourse for you to acknowledge that commercials existence except if it was only aired on a channel the NBA is on. Unless you're willing to admit the NBA did put money into airing it on multiple channels, in which case why would the NBA do that and not air it at least on the channel they're always on?
>I guess putting the NBA name on Niji merch isn't a promotion?
You said it yourself as well: how are people going to find out about it? The Internet. The internet is a very wide and vast place, and since we've yet to see any direct or even implied links between the NBA's viewership and Nijisanji's merch page, it's really no different than trying to find the promotion on a One Piece Roleplay forum.

>>77114010
>>77129709 (me)
>>77130690
Observations.

HoloJP did not grow CCV. The +24% is entirely on total streamed hours.
DEV_IS is new but had more viewers than all non-holo branches aside from HoloID.
HoloEN +48% has a lot of CCV component to only a +5% of total stream hours
HoloID growth is all CCV.

StarsJP increased its CCV by 50%, but there was a lot less content being made. Probably because of the concert.
StarsEN is down 15% in CCV, which is not that much after losing two heavy hitters (they were still streaming in May 2023) and hiring ARMIS.

NijiJP grew 18% in CCV but the talents produced like 900hrs less content.
NijiEN lost half of its audience, and content is down by 11%

Phase Connect is UP hard. No matter where you look.
VEE seems like JP's Phase. They shifted to much longer streams than what they were doing before (same hours, one hundred less streams).
VSPO doing well. More viewers and more content.
774 suffering like NijiEN
NeoPorte lost many viewers to the same amount of content

VLAST had 9 big streams, idk what this is about.
NEOBAKA is 4view for some reason to half the number of streams that DEV_IS put out.

>>77132238
A fucking commercial on a TV network is directly marketing it, you retard. Companies pay to commercials on networks, not the other way around, you retard
>The internet is a very wide and vast place
And Nijisanji is a very popular company. They aren't announcing the collaboration on some obscure website, dumbass. If Sony announced they were making a Batman game, you wouldn't be crying about why DC didn't tweet about it like a woman

>>77114010
>AKA Virtual with +11000%
According to investor statistics, they'll be as big as Hololive by next year

>>77132556
>If Sony announced they were making a Batman game, you wouldn't be crying about why DC didn't tweet about it like a woman
There's a clear overlap between videogame fans and comic fans. Normie fans of the NBA don't know about Nijisanji. It's just that simple.

>>77132556
>A fucking commercial on a TV network is directly marketing it
A TV network that has deals directly with the NBA. Why are you implying that the NBA would not know about or even have a hand in getting a 1993 game aired during it's primetime? Do you believe that the games commercials were aired without the NBA knowing anything about it, despite the fact that logically the time the creators would have put it on would have been during the games to capture the largest audience? And on top of that, you're admitting thats direct marketing from the network that's signed the NBA onto it, which is already a step up from Nijisanji's deal.
>And Nijisanji is a very popular company.
There are a million people watching any given NBA match, even during it's drought years that number is still up in the 500k+ range. Nijisanji, even at it's absolute best viewership is still only 60k with almost no market share between the two demographics. And the whole point of these collabs are to merge the demographics to make money for both parties, correct?

>>77132556
>And Nijisanji is a very popular company.
>comparing Nijisanji to the fucking NBA
KEK

>>77132853
The devs for NBA jam paid to have their commercials on the NBA, retard. That's not the NBA actually marketing it. Nothing you said proved anything at all past the NBA being shit at marketing their stuff

>>77114010
Pekora, Aqua, Miko, Koyori, and Subaru each individually have a large slice then NijiEN.

>>77133069
No, they paid to have their commercials on the same channel as the NBA, a technicality you yourself just clarified. Are you already losing the plot? And on top of that, like you've also said, you believe the NBA jam devs were a small group who couldn't do anything as the NBA didn't give them marketing money. Which again means that they chose to air it on ESPN or ABC or whatever channel it was at the time right when the NBA was playing, meaning that even if the NBA directly did not promote them, they were still put completely in front of the faces of the average NBA fan during a big game. Something which Niji does not have. So even when, in your worst case example, the NBA themselves were not directly promoting NBA jam... they were still indirectly promoting it better than the people you claim they literally have ties with.

Any other ways you want to embarrass yourself this thread?

>>77133477
>they were still put completely in front of the faces of the average NBA fan during a big game.
That's them marketing their own game, you dumbass. Not the NBA marketing it. The same way the NBA would be indirectly marketing Niji or the new pair of Jordans. Instead of projecting your embarrassment onto me, where's the evidence of Niji paying the NBA for the collab?

>>77133751
>That's them marketing their own game, you dumbass.
So this failure of a game with barely any money behind it managed to successfully market themselves to the demographic they're aiming for, the NBA's fans, better than Nijisanji, the company with a "direct NBA tie"?

>>77114010
What's most interesting to me is the Homo decline. Yeah, they were all in Japan and not really streaming. But, Vesper and Magni are worth more than all of Armis combined.

>>77118939
No wonder Nijisanji is looking not only for their own fuwamoco but their own raden

lmao the sister left as soon as the thread hit bump limit
there'll be another fight for you to defend your precious nijiflops later, loser

>>77134029
>So this failure of a game
How retarded are you? The game was successful and you don't advertise merch the same way as a game

>>77134947
So it was successful because it marketed itself on a channel the NBA was on, even without the NBA apparently knowing about it in any capacity? So then tell me, what happens to something that doesn't market itself to the audience it's aiming for, in this specific case the NBA? Because right now I'm not seeing Nijisanji's collab being marketed anywhere on any NBA channels, or to any NBA fans. It's just being marketed to Nijisanji fans. Maybe you can provide some proof of Nijisanji marketing to NBA fans?

>>77134947
>and you don't advertise merch the same way as a game
Then why'd you say >>77129005 in some random anons rhetorical question comparing merch explicitly to games?

>>77135230
I accept your concession on NBA jam. Clearly NBA fans know about it considering retards from this board tried invading basketball forums to get people on the dramafag train. The proof Niji is marketing to NBA fans is the stream

>>77135574
Because merch in 2024 doesn't get commercials, you retard. The point was the NBA didn't directly market the game and they didn't

>>77135631
Why did people know about NBA jam in the first place? Was it due to some form of marketing to NBA fans? And what channel was the stream held on? One that has a surplus of NBA fans? C'mon sister, you gotta clarify your points before the thread dies, otherwise your defense is gunna fail even harder than it already has.

>>77135793
>Because merch in 2024 doesn't get commercials
what

>>77135631
I'm sorry, how do you think NBA fans know about the stream in the first place if NBA never announced it on their socials?

>>77135793
The fuck do you mean merch in 2024 doesn't get commercials? Literally half of the commercials on TV are people trying to get you to buy something! Entire franchises were built on merchandizing commercials! Even fucking Nijisanji has their own commercials!
Can... can you not afford TV? Holy shit that's depressing.

>>77135793
this is without a doubt the most mindbroken i've ever seen a sister
Merch doesn't get commercials in 2024, holy shit dude

I love how a thread shitting on NijiEN derailed into the Last Sister once again destroying herself mentally. Maybe she'll finally do it.

>>77135793
I know now you never watch television and underage.

>>77135631
>The proof Niji is marketing to NBA fans is the stream
>nijiniggers so mindbroken by being called nijiniggers
>they think a nijisanji stream means they're marketing to black people
kek

>>77124805
Nijisanji defenders are so retarded
Those with the critical thinking ability has abandon the fandom, huh?

>>77137033
They think NBA fans gonna watch a stream on Toko's channel.
The sisters are out of their mind.

>>77136071
>Literally half of the commercials on TV are people trying to get you to buy something!
I like how the majority of faggots aping out don't know what hyperbole is. The Internet has replaced TV. Commercials aren't as important as Internet marketing. It's retarded to say Niji should air a commercial on TV

>>77137377
NBA is watched on TV primarily but even assuming that's true you realize the NBA isn't even giving them any internet marketing either right?
Also they already do air their own commercials retard. You're their fan why do I know more about them then you?

>>77136021
By scrolling through Twitter and seeing it, retard

>>77137377
I'm sorry, what?
Do you think "internet marketing" is different from commercials?

>>77137459
>NBA is watched on TV primarily
You're a retard. There are multiple paid subscription services streaming NBA games. No one watches TV anymore. They aren't going to air a NBA Niji commercial on TV

>>77137466
Do you know how twitter works sister?
Do you think Elon recommended the stream to their For You page despite they never browsed chuuba content before?

>>77137377
Underage not allowed here

>>77137377
>The Internet has replaced TV.
Not for the NBA it hasn't? What the fuck are you on about?
>>77137466
Alright scroll through the NBA twitter hashtag right now and see what you get. I got some drawing of a dude cumming, some ugly lady with freckles, and a selfie tweet from 2021 on the top 20 tweets.

>>77137649
>NBA fans watch NBA
>Tweet with big traffic includes NBA
>NBA Niji collaboration gets on their feed
Learn how the Internet works

>>77137642
>paid subscriptions = no longer relevant to TV
Huh?

>>77134734
kek
just post it again

>>77137722
>Not for the NBA it hasn't? What the fuck are you on about?
They're on Hulu, the ESPN app, their own app. No one watches the NBA through TV anymore. This isn't 20 years ago

>>77137466
Fun fact: the English account doesn't even use the NBA hashtag. It is ONLY the Japanese account. And twitter weighs your recommendations based on your language setting for obvious reasons.

>>77137760
That is not how it works retard sister.
For example, you know how chuubas love their APEX and Valo shit?
If you never followed any APEX or Valo shits in the first place, you won't be served any APEX and Valo stuff even if the chuubas you're following post them constantly.

>>77138001
And NBA fans watch NBA shit so the NBA tweets and collabs would show up on their feed. Are you retard?

>>77137908
I asked you a question. Go on twitter, go to the NBA hashtag, and tell me how long you scroll to find Nijisanji's tweet.

>>77138117
That's not a question

>>77138107
You mean the tweet that DOESN'T EXIST IN ENGLISH?
https://x.com/nijisanji_app/status/1794247058020516192
https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1794247064932745401