/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Feel like this will be more subjective, but in my case I feel that way about Aqua
Something just rubs me the wrong way about her

>>768235
Matsuri

>>768235
I used to dislike Kiara cause of her annoying high pitch nasally voice but I'm starting to like her cause she feels more real than the rest. Like she's not holding back her personally or acting a character.

>>768235
Aqua

>>768467
Kek

>>768377
To Japs maybe.

>>768467
Yeah Kiara's my favorite en girl, I don't get the hate

>>768595
its 3-5 samefags who spam this board with anti kiara bullshit every day.

>>768467
Holos like Ollie do their character voices right by not sounding forced or fake, Kiara is like a fucking family guy character with that nasal voice and I can't get over it

>>768235
what compels you to make these threads day after day? I really want to know

>>768235
Matsuri, kinda. She seems to be a very touchy no personal space person even if she can be mature. Or Aqua since shes introverted and makes thinks awkward really fast so it's hard to collab with her just once smoothly. but really I'm not really sure cause all the JP girls seem neat to eachother or not interact at all.
>>768595
It'll stop eventually actually. Sooner or later Kiara will just be chilling and there wont be much to talk about with her.

>>768846
Her voice kind of grows on you after you watch her for a while. You tend to stop focusing on how her voice sounds when you enjoy her more.

>>768467
She sounds like Lois Griffin

>>769158
a high pitched Lois Griffin

>>768467
Whenever I see pro Kiara posts I always just imagine Kiara going through different threads on this board typing out positive opinions of herself because it seems exactly like something she'd do.

JP fans really seethe with:
Matsuri: Menhera attacks, streams Apex 24/7 even when her fans ask for other games, crazy touchy with other holos
Towa: She had a yab in a stream, the JP fanbase still hates her for that
Ayame: Sometimes she stops streaming and updating her twitter for days and she streamed over a couple of birthdays/milestones of the other holos

Hard to say, I don't really hate any holoJP, but I can't stand this bitch. No one in JP forces a ship from day one like this whore.

>>768467
She’s the fakest one there. Everything she does is only to get subs and super chats.

>>769792
>Everything she does is only to get subs and super chats.
Isn't that the whole point?

>>769615
a yab?

>>769817
yeah, but her genmate, the top earner amongst their gen doesn't fake it and still gets alot of it.

>>768235
>>768860
answer me faggot OP

>>769792
lol she deliberately streams debuff games because she likes them and refuses to do pandering GFE shit because she hates it

>>769854
Well yeah but she automatically gets the pedo demo.

>>769858
IT AINT ME FOO

>>769854
Gura's the fakest of them all you stupid bumchud. She's actively talked about how exhausting it is to be such a fake persona in her members streams.

>>769792
complete bullshit

she always does what she likes while trying to be as entertaining and happy as possible.
she also talks more about IRL than most other holos, which makes her more real and relateable.

she also drops fanservice on her roommate twitter from time to time because she knows some dedicated fans are following her there. she cares alot. if you know her past you should know she doesnt want to lose everything again.

out of all the holoENs shes probably the most grateful one.

>>769975
I unironically think Gura might be the first real holo to graduate. She could go back to Sen, take tons of her new viewers and no longer have to give a cut to cover. Commission an improved avatar and everything. It'd be like this whole thing was just a massive advertisement for her original stream.

>>770162
personally i think so too. i dont know how long shes forced to stay with holo. i believe contract says 1 year? ame seems like someone who may leave too.

ina will def stay kiara prob too since this is her dream. cali im not so sure. 2+ years maybe.

>>769308
Tenchou you don’t need to say these kind of things about yourself so we get baited into defending you. We love you always.

>>769858
>>769817
>>769869
I'll just post this here for VERY new people around here just for perspective. This is the type of "people" who make these threads and seethe at her. It's been almost 4 months and this fag is still at it. Absolutely nothing will change their minds so no point in arguing. Not just Kiara, any holo, ENs in particular. I'm just posting this shit since it's fucking funny. even the insults ITT are exactly the same as this twitter fag was spewing all this time ago. Remember these 2 images every time you see some dum-dums post same shit every day in every thread. bye

https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png
This is when one of these fags was caught.
https://files.catbox.moe/l1yt5s.png
This is more recent. RENT FREE BABYYYYYYYY!

>>770223
calli literally has the golden goose
cinderella story and arguably the most expressive model hololive has produced.
She doesn't have to worry about only having one source of income (sales, concerts) and can literally just make money by just streaming herself eating/taking a break when she's not focused on her next song.

>>768467
I hate this logic, the idea that being real means having no filter.
Someone who doesn't say literally everything on their mind isn't reserved (or, god forbid, "fake"), they just have self control, and they don't want to be an autistic cunt.
If being a faggot that has no restraint is something you wish you could be, I don't know what to tell you.

>>770321
but she can do all of that without the help of holo, who take a 40% cut of her money.

plus she isnt a gamer. sometime it feels super like shes super bored/forced to play a game. but she has to because contract says do X amount of streams per week.

she seems like a very hard working and tired person. thats why i dont think she wont stay for too long. she would be better off doing heir own thing after she gathered an even larger fan base.

but yeh i def think both gura and ame will leave before her.

>>769842
You can find it if you look for it, but it's better if you don't do it, it's a silly thing that only concerns to stupid idolfags

>>770389
so youre saying she deserves the constant hate and dox spam because shes very energetic and extrovert?

i know its probably not what you meant, but this is what it feels like when her antis spam this board.

>>768467
Of all the words to describe Kiara, 'real' is not one that comes to my mind at least

>>770389
I'm not saying the others are fake. Why is it one extreme or the other? I'm just saying Kiara is on the farther side of that one extreme, not that the others are all on the opposite end.

Kiara thread!

>>770492
>so youre saying she deserves the constant hate and dox spam
No, you reactionary faggot.

>>770539
>I'm not saying the others aren't real, I'm just saying Kiara is MORE real.

>>770599
can someone edit out mori boobs so it feels like its my POV?

>>769615
>the JP fanbase still hates her for that
STILL? I swear they are worse than fucking children.

>>770433
Why Amelia? Her shtick is a twitch gaming streamer. This seems like the dream scenario for her. Stream games 5 days a week on autopilot with the occasional watchalong. She's easily the highest volume streamer so far.

>>770628
I love takamori just because it filters most gosliggers. The rest will hopefully hang themselves in due time

>>770628
done

>>768467
It's actually twice as bad. She's not only fake but her real personality is awful. I'm shocked that people here have such a tolerance for arrogant self entitled bitches.

>>770740
THANK YOU

>>770740
Based anon

>>770789
do you have any proof rrat?
no?
ok

>>770833
Watch her streams. She's a really shitty awful person. Also roommate history.

>>770789
I assume you can tolerate seeing yourself in the mirror every morning so it’s not that much of a stretch

>>770866
i watch her streams. and i probably know more about her roommate than you. still havent seen proof yet

>>>769791

>>770618
>>I'm not saying the others aren't real, I'm just saying Kiara is MORE real
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Your original post implies that I want all holos to be as autistic and wear their heart on their sleeve like Kiara, which that's far from true. It's just one aspect of Kiara I like, that's all. Not dissing the other holos for it.

>>770648
idolfags are scum

>>770992
>I'm not dissing the other holos, I'm just saying that they're relatively fake
Wow, fans really do reflect the oshi.

>>768235
Joke Answer: Orange Woman Kiara Bad so Orange Woman Coco Bad
Real Answer:Menheratsuri

>>771026
>I'm not dissing the other holos, I'm just saying that they're relatively fake
Appealing to extremes again, do you have brain damage?

>>770942
Most likely conclusion is you're also a shitty awful person who doesn't understand why people don't like whiny, manipulative, egotistical, fragile normalfags

>>771026
Starting to think Kiara swept up all the most autistic fans. Also tumblrite shippers. No wonder her community is such cancer.

>>771167
>whiny
yes. but also very strong
>manipulative
proof
>egoistical
lol no. also proof
>fragile
JUST NO. she went through so much shit, other would have already killed themselves
>normalfag
kiara? a normalfag?

>>771034
Probably time to disengage. It’s obvious he’s only here for bait

>>770433
>calli
get out.

Kiara reminds me of me when I was the new kid in high school which is why it's hard for me to watch her.
She is just loud and bouncy because she wants to be liked and accepted by everyone, but more often than not it just comes off as annoying and overbearing. She means well though.

>>771237
Someone who breaks down crying every week over some retarded shit isn't strong. She forces the other ENs to have most of their collabs on her channel to soak up the viewers, she complains when they don't let her self promote during collabs ("Did you guys not hear me!?!") and she's ggone through so much shit because she's a fucking dumbass who flew to Japan to try and be a professional whore (i.e "Idol") and got shocked when it turns out the professional whore industry has a lot of seedy shit going on.

Kiara is just a cunt in every possible way. She's the one who kicks up a huge shit and screams at full volume if the McDonalds worker forgets the pickles on her burger. If you love those people more power to you but most people don't

>>770648
Not defending the Elevens, but it's not just the yab itself; it's how Towa handled it.
>go AFK
>everyone hears a guy on your stream
>try to damage control by telling everyone it's your manager
>it's not your manager
>your company is pissed that you tried to use them as a shield for your screwup
>they force you to apologize and issue you a suspension
>only survive because EOPs and SEAdogs saviorfagged you
A whole bunch of the Holos have BFs, and there have been several other BF yabs before and since this one. What separates Towa's from the rest is her dishonesty about it. If she had simply just apologized rather than lying, it would never have blown up to the extent it did.

>>769615
What? Matsuri doesn't stream Apex 24/7. She's been doing other games lately. But it is obvious she really likes playing that game.

>>771336

>She forces the other ENs to have most of their collabs on her channel to soak up the viewers

she doesnt force anyone. they have a rotation going on in case you didnt notice.

>she complains when they don't let her self promote during collabs
she does the same thing for all other holos ( hey ame, didnt you forget to say something?)

>she's ggone through so much shit because she's a fucking dumbass who flew to Japan to try and be a professional whore (i.e "Idol") and got shocked when it turns out the professional whore industry has a lot of seedy shit going on.

yes.
and now you hate her for that? cause 15 year old weeb made a bad decision? now you wanna kick her on the ground even more?

>Kiara is just a cunt in every possible way
proof

>>771378
the japs are retarded anyway

oh no my virtual waifu has a bf shes not pure

>>770433
>without the help of Holo
Without Holo Calli wouldn't have a bigger apartment.

>>771427
>proof
Watch her streams. If you can't tell she's a cunt then you're a cunt too.

>>771446
Obviously. otherwise she wouldnt have joined.
im not talking about the past.

>>771508
>>770942

>>771537
Sorry you had to find out like this.

>>771427
>>771237
Chickenfriend. Don’t feed the bait. Anyone with two brain cells can see he’s just regurgitating the usual rrats and exaggerating nitpicks.

>>768235
I like Kiara, but, just like Matsuri she doesn't really doesn't know what boundaries are when it comes to people. Even though TakaMori is a thing, I don't think Calli is as into it as Kiara.

>>771582
tl;dr you have no proofs
all you can say is: w-watch her streams dude! s-shes evil dud trust me!

>>771602
i get a kick out of destroying his arguments

>>770298
holy kek
like an ant talking down to a cockroach

>>771670
People who surround lolcows often don't understand why they're lolcows. It's very common. All the retards who love those shitheads can't understand why they get so much hate either. It's because there are a lot of people who are fucking stupid and you happen to be one of them.

I can't believe a virtual chicken can make this many people seethe fucking KEK

>>771800
Right? Kiara is dangerously based.

>>768467
chickenfags unironically think she is not acting? watch her roommate vlogs.

>>770461
>>770648
>>771022
Fuck off boyfriend haver

hello fellow lolcow refugees, is this the Kiara anti thread?

>>771800
chicken is gigastacey

all she had to do was uploading a 10 sec video saying am crow. should have seen the malding cucks seeth at this video.

>>771938
>gigastacey
Thank you for making it so obvious you're from reddit

>>771898
still dont understand why fucking admin locked the thread.

its the same when tumblr got purged and shitted up twitter
when storm front got purged and shitted up /pol/

>>768235
Pekora unironically

>>771645
Kiara is way too possessive of Calli, its actually kinda creepy.

>>772007
i wish i was a normie. i truly wish

>>769615
Japs don't really give a shit about towa anymore

>>772067
Being a failed normie doesn't mean you belong here

>>772010
Because it was that bad, that's how pathetic these people are, they got booted from their own kingdom for being a step below shit, so they shit up here with their weird hate boner.

Seriously what is wrong with faggots, what Kiara specifically? And dont feed me your tired rrats, this kind of hatred is just beyond insane. All I can figure is the usual trannies being upset.

>>771670
It helps enlighten newcomers and dispels these bullshit narratives that people love to spout. The recent Matsuri bloom thread has a great example of schizo bullshit getting shut down by an actual (autistic) fan.

You know he was full of shit when he labeled Kiara as a normalfag and probably only goes off selective things he hated seeing about Kiara in clips. Notice he gladly ignores being explicitly refuted by you, on the claim about Kiara's 'complaining about self promoting,' for example.

>>772113
>what Kiara specifically?
She's a shitty person. There's nothing more to it than that.

>>771793
I dunno if I'd call Kiara a lolcow, she's just an annoying cunt that's all

>>772113
easiest target since shes the most doxed person.
but my theory is that it isnt actually that many. 3-5 people maybe. very autistic and samefagging whenever possible.

>>772233
Oh she's definitely a lolcow. Her history is hilarious and she reacts to criticism just the way a good lolcow should by stirring up more and more drama

>>772067
go back

>>771378
eh they may have been under contract to not say whether or not they have a boyfriend so she didn't know what to say and then hastily said manager. but cover probably doesn't want people knowing they have male managers either because japs are fucking autistic so they got her to change her story

>>772233
reps

>>772028

Kiara pushes the whole "Takamori" thing really hard, but Calli's learned to lean into it. Not to mention how possessive the other JP holos are. I would wager Korone's just as possessive of Okayu.

It's for the yuribait. I wouldn't count it against her, especially when it seems like she's the only one making a considerable effort.

>>768235
Probably Polka. Although she has a couple redeeming qualities, she's mostly loud and abrasive. The only people obsessed with her are EOP

>>772289
If you say so. Personally I think anybody who spends dozens to hundreds of hours stalking some internet loser just to laugh at them should maybe think long and hard about the monsters monsters, abyss abyss quote

>>772434
>I wouldn't count it against her, especially when it seems like she's the only one making a considerable effort.
I think that's why people do hold it against her. Pandering to shippers is annoying especially considering the western shipping fanbase is absolute AIDS.

>>772525
personally im not much into the takamori thing too. but i know why she did it. its entertaining as fuck. some of the ebst fan arts, stories, steams/collabs spawned because of takamori

got some other people into the spotlight as well (e.g. mamaloni)
its overall a very positive thing for the community in my opinion.

>>772525
Not a huge fan of Takamori the ship. Mori and Kiara are a great pair but tenchou does push it a bit too much. I will say the best thing to come out of it has been Mamaloni. It’s such a joy watching her react

>>768235
Polka if we're talking about sandpaper personality
Pekora for reluctance to work with others at times
And Matsuri for "too far" yabai

>>771837
Extremely

>>770298
jesus christ they're like a 1 man potato farm.

>>772763
I don't like Takamori much because it feels like it was kinda forced onto Calli. I'm also kinda sad because Calli doing the Shrek with Kiara means she likely won't do a Shrek 4 watchalong with Gura

>>772763
it's a powerplay because kiara knows Gura has the little sister/big sister vibe with Calli, Ina/Calli are decent artists together, and Ame/Calli seem to enjoy playing most, if not all video games together with each other... also their humor kinda lines up

Kiara really only has a forced pairing she herself put on Calli, and i guess they were...city-mates?

>>771854
The way you worded this sounds wrong and is wrong. We're here to watch and enjoy the vtuber not the roomate, creep.

kiara hate is a meme

>>768694
Mad negro who can't accept the fact it's hundreds of thousands who hate that bitch

>>772525
>western shipping fanbase is absolute AIDS

Nah, western shipping only gets bad when it concerns fujos, because women are psychotic.

Kiara, we love you. Please stop making these threads.

>>774608
>First EN/JP Among us collab
>Reine/Kiara dog game collab
nah mate

>>774502
then don't claim she is "natural"

>>775181
dog games while collabing with indog...
spicy narrative

>>769158
Damn, she kinda does.

>>768467
It's easy to see she's playing a character, but she's doing a good job of mixing what seems to be a lot of her real self into it.

>>768694
>M-mah samefag
Cope harder KFPhaggot

>>775642
found the samefag

>>771301
I can save her

>>775700
Always the same 2-3 kfphagots spamming this board with kiara bullshit

>>772221
Categorically false you lying cocksucker. She's absolutely hard it hard.

I don't know why I'm bothering with this, I'll never get a straight answer.

>>775563
Time for some fresh grilled armchair psychology on sesame seed pretzel rolls.

What if cosplay bitch is really just a sad chuuni weeb at heart, and birb is all the embarrassing parts of her real personality that she wouldn't be comfortable expressing otherwise?

What if being a bitch irl is just her guarded, bitter, jaded public face that she wears to protect herself from all the disappointment and dashed expectations she's faced in life?

What if the fakeness of her character is just there to cushion any rejection that comes her way because otherwise she'd take it all incredibly personally?

What if she really is the kind of person who'd spend an entire 15 minutes after a rousing game of train monopoly complaining about how ecelebs get 10k likes just for posting their dinner?

Really makes you think about who the real cake princess is, although the answer is probably somewhere in the middle.

>>768235
Just because she's in your head rent-free doesn't mean we're all bitches anon

>>769308
She's probably the one posting the anti Kiara threads and laughing at everyone

>>769308
yup

I swear KFP has got to be the most sensitive fanbase of all? it borders on zhangs & taiwan.
they're too insecure imo

>>768235
>AKA most people hate her and the rest simply tolerate her presence
Stop projecting.

>>771670
>i get a kick out of destroying his arguments
the only argument you've destroyed is your emotional maturity

>>774502
anon, you're defending someone who did porn for money. I cant take KFPs seriously

>>772675
>community
this vocabulary.
quick. how many genders are there?

>>774614
not to mention all the JP girls too, kek
she found out, JP girls hated her SJW cuckery & she's been mad ever since

>>779486
>Categorically false you lying cocksucker.
someone who does porn for money is objectively by any metric a shitty person unless you're a cuck

>>789850
Ogey rrat

>>768235
This thread is a Kiara anti thread falseflagging as discussion about something else.
Can you guys keep it to one thread?

>>768235

Coco. Search your feelings, you know her colleagues blame her for CN taking their monies, permissions and sponsorships.

>>790047
>Xi jinping typed this

>>790047
>china
>money

>>771854
Link?

>>768377
Matsuri seems pretty personable, based on her connections with non-HL vtubers. I guess they do have to have a tolerance for being groped though.

>>770162
Won't do it she got into this with the intention to make friends to you know. She (HER) ones talked about how the lock down made her realize how fucked up her life was, wen she noticed that her routine didn't get affected at all.

More likely she'll eventually drop the character like how Gibara and Haato did.

>>770433

She wouldn't have had a no 1 album on iTunes without Hololive. Calli is a hard worker, but as a musician she's still fairly middle of the road. Prior to joining HL she was doing alright but not amazing, and that's probably about her level.

OFC if she leaves she'll still be more popular because it'll be easy for fans to track her, but I think she'll stay around for a while since HL is good at getting her connections in Japan (ex: PreConne collab) and she's clearly a weeb.

>>790313
They can also connect her with some pro level voice training like they did with Suisei.

>>770715
No Mori titty to fat Chicken ass to plum.

Kiara is cute, fuck you op.
t. Teamate

>>770433
I see this opinion a lot and it's always based off some assumption that their fanbase will follow them into another identity. Well, you have an active case study right now with the whole of HoloCN. Are they really doing even half as well as when they were with hololive?

>>790245
>Won't do it she got into this with the intention to make friends
well she hasn't done a very good job at it

>>770689
I don't get people who think Ame wouldn't be one of the last to leave, if ever. It's like thinking a guy who inherits a mansion and servants liquidating everything, giving it away to charity and going back to a dingy apartment because he hates talking to people.

Why does everyone hate Matsuri besides the groping stuff? I've heard "menhara attack" tossed around, but is that referring to something specific or just calling her a sperg?

>>768235
She must be doing something right for me to see her talked about so much. Shes alright.

>>791064
>friendships aren't real until it is broadcasted to rrats

>>772465
what's the meaning of EOP im new to these kinds of word jeez

>>790047
eat shit chang

>>789905
I'm totally out of the loop. What SJW cuckery are you talking about?

>>791742

Its better to be controversial than forgotten. Especially in this industry where there's so much competition.

>>792077
I would also like to know this

>>772434
>I would wager Korone's just as possessive of Okayu.
Actually, Okayu has admitted to be the clingy one offline (like sending several LINE messages) and the one to suggest to get matching rings to Korone.

>>789905
This is like the 3rd time I've seen someone throw out "SJW", what the fuck are you talking about.

>>789883
What.

>>791763
Well, she is a streamer. Would be nice to see her collab outside of EN one on one. I think a Gura-Reine or a Gura-Risu collab would go over well. Moona, Iofi, and Ollie can come off too strong and Anya will be too boring but maybe that's ok too.

>>770433
Cover don't want their talents fucking off after a year

Why do you think the pick they pick diamonds in the rough? They want people who will still view the relationship as mutually beneficial for more than just a year.

Besides how many Holos have actually graduated for non-yab reasons? Even if it's not explicitly part of their hiring process, they'll be looking for people they think will stick around as part of the application/interview process.

>>770298
This board needs flags.

>>793710
Go back

>>769975
Nice bait faggot

>>793041
Without going in too much detail, some guy who harrased her and others of the same field she worked blackmailed and payed for some of these girls to have *** with him, she and some of her coworkers also got the same offer, and one of her closest friend did accept it and it's a well know thing, she on the other hand didn't and got harrased for many years by him until her employeer fired her based on lies he and his friends spread and a fake call he did to her management.

>CTRL + F
Calli 14 Results
Mori 10 Results

>>794150
Mori
Mori
Mori
Mori

There now they're equal.

>>768235
>most people hate her and the rest simply tolerate her presence
You are aware that your opinions aren't necessarily other people's? In fact you're probably in the minority.

>>771378
>apologizing for having a boyfriend
lol

>>768235
3 dedicated kiara antis and now you have the false assumption that she's widely hated

>>794970
Clearly, you haven't been to /hlg/

>>789883
That's not a shibboleth you retard.

>>793912
How the fuck is that SJW shit?

>>798132
>Anon missed the point
She did get quite a bit of hate on her social media after that, and wrote a few schizo posts back then trying to explain that crap, some trump shit, gay stuff and a few anti white posts.

I wouldn't say she is SJW, she was just a bit retarded back then.

>>768235
>Who's the Kiara of HoloJP?
Whichever one is the biggest sociable chatterbox, so FBK most likely. She lights up the chatrting threads to the point where when she has to "go answer the phone" for a bit, the others become lost for words.
>AKA
Your nigger is showing again.

>>770740
You just replaced Mori with Rushia.

>>768467
Kiara is for having a parasocial relationship but the twist is that it's the performer who has built an emotional reliance on the audience instead.

>>768235
People actually believe this about Kiara? Holy rrat

>>791864
>gif of a still image
why?

>>769308
Whenever I see anti Kiara posts I always just imagine a handful of schizos going through differen threads on this board typing out negative opinions of her becaise it seems exactly like something random schizos would do.

>>793757
Go back

>>790047
Taiwan is a sovereign nation.

Kiara is like you took /hlgg/ and made it into an actual person. No wonder she is hated.

>>790047
>Search your feelings
MUH FEE FEES

>>806003
> Kiara is like 70% of this board
Is she /ourgirl/?

>>768235
Kiara is an odd situation.
You can get banned for trying to defend her as "trolling" but if you attack her you are allowed to post freely.

>>799785
>back then
She still is

>>774614
>>806252
[citation needed]

>>792077
>>792172
most likely more schizoid delusions rather than anything with basis.

>>806252
you are delusional

>>806435
there is her Instagram post talking about how we should fight racism that's probably where SJW rrat originates

>>806435

>>768467
Her voice is an act
Her yuribating is an act

Hell, even her pretending to be able to sing is an act

>>799785
>and a few anti white posts.
Take the meds

>>770298
This doesn't make you look better, it makes you look worse KFP
You actively care about haters that you spend hours documenting it

Imagine if DSP's fans actively gave a shit about his mountain of anti's

>>770298
You should probably spend a minute before posting paragraphs about anti's reflecting on your life

>>806903
>>806857
Be less obvious.

>>770689
Ame already made all the money she wanted to take care of her family
Idolshit makes it hard to have boyfriends and husband's, most of the JP girls are old, depressed hags

>>772233
Nono, she is

>>792077
Check her roommates twitter during George Floyd riots.

>>793041
>#blm #georgefloyd
>cops kill black people all the time in America just for living
>fuck Poland for not being with the rest of the world on lgbt rights
>fuck brexit no deal for the UK(laughs)
>I don't understand politics but vote out bolsonaro!
I can keep going on

>>794970
What fucking planet do you live on, do you have eyes?? No one likes her except KFP

>>807373
By comparrison the only other ENchuuba to directly mention politics in their past life was Ame saying she voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.

>>806922
You really should spend a minute or two before you hit post, just so you know
>hey, this, I want to put this out into the world, I'm proud of it

>>807373
Oh no anon, you can't quote her tweets, that's trolling! And you can't post pics either, because that's rule 3!

>>770866
I watch her streams. Thousands of people don't see what you see. Maybe you are the problem?

>>807597
Hundreds of thousands of hololive fans DON'T watch her streams, especially JP, who she spends 1/6th of her streams pandering to

>>807597
>me and a couple thousand people watch her
The vast sea of hololive fans rejected her, and it wasn't for a lack of her trying

>>807645
>>807735
This doesn't say much, as no Vtuber has 100% appeal

Example: Pekora is wildly popular and makes bank but I find her woefully unwatchable

>>807860
Then your initial point is meaningless, you defended Kiara because
>x amount of people watch her
But when confronted with
>xxx amount of people don't watch her
You disregard your point about numbers completely.

People watch DSP because he is a lolcow, just like Kiara is, we are waiting for the next yab, the next fuck up, which is why her legitimate viewers are so small compared to her competitors

I want Kiara to keep failing at singing, and come out with another terrible autotuned song that fails to get the views her gen mates fan remixes get
I want her to keep doing holotalk, pissing off another JP audience in the growing list of JP fans who dislike her
I want Kiara to keep ruining every collab, and then complain about why no one draws art of them

She is a lolcow, she is a fuck up, an embarrassment, and is entertainment for entertainments sake

That is your oishi, enjoy

>comparing Kiara to DSP
not even worth the reply.

>>808123
I just don't get it. Wanting someone to fail so badly is actually sick, especially when you yourself have nothing to gain or lose. Shit ain't right. Like what's the point

People who watch a streamer do so because they like the content. It's active participation, a choice to be made

People NOT watching a streamer fall into two categories: Outright rejection, and passive lack of interest. Just because thousands of people aren't watching does not automatically mean those people are rejecting her. There are so many Vtubers already and it's difficult for EN to garner much interest from JP, as there are already so many established ones to choose from

>>807493
I agree you should think more before you post obvious shit.

>>807735
>The vast sea of hololive fans rejected her, and it wasn't for a lack of her trying
I guarantee she had more dubs then your favorite girl.

>>808488
He’s just a terrible person who can only derive enjoyment from other peoples’ perceived failures. I mean that’s the whole point of the board culture from which he’s coming from, except even they banned Kiara discussion because she was actually free of enough “milk” that she was boring to them. I don’t think there’s much else to it otherwise you wouldn’t be spending so much effort hating on someone that otherwise wouldn’t affect you. Ask him who his oshi is and I wouldn’t be surprise if he doesn’t actually have one. He’s not here to actually enjoy anything except take comfort in the perception that other people are every bit as manipulative, cynical, jaded, and unable to enjoy anything for the sake of enjoying it as he is.

>>808123
>pissing off another JP audience in the growing list of JP fans who dislike her
Any proof of JP fans disliking her.

>>768235
used to be kanata
Haven't kept up with vtubers for quite a while now so I dunno who jp side hates these days

>>809057
"I believe it strongly, therefore it must be true"

That's how I guess his reasoning works

>>768235
Someone give me a tldr of why Kiara is hated

>>809586
She isn’t. She just has a small handful of SEAnig antis who think that they own /hlg/ and this board.

>>809586
The reasons i've heard so far amount to
"Just watch her streams, you'll see for yourself"
:/

>>809691
reasons i have heard:
shes sjw
shes anti sjw
she pro blm
shes anti blm nazi
shes a whore
she bio engineered new corona strain to kickstart holoEN by enforcing global lockdown
shes blackmailing everyone
she is blackmailed by someone

everytime i ask for proof, all i get is: watch her streams.
when i say: i watch her streams, i go no reply.

really really strange

>>807373
proof? gib link

>>810645
>KFP making this shit up
She's just annoying when streaming.
and was a SJW in media.
Also worth pointing out even after leaving japan most likely forever besides some visit, she will never meet pekora, pekora fucking hates her LMAO.
Ollie managed to do what Kiara wanted without bing hated by everyone, what a failure.

>>810713
>and was a SJW in media.
proof?
link?

>pekora fucking hates her
proof? timestamp?

>>809586
It probably doesn't help her that there are plenty of fake tweets like

>>809234
>>798260

which get posted occasionally by people who knowingly post fake shit maliciously. While some can tell that they're fake, many will just assume that any Kiara tweet images are real.

>>810713
>She's annoying

Such a subjective reason should not be the basis for so much hate

>>811195
i dont think anyone would be believe that. especially on her fucking hololive account lol

the people who reply to that and say' wow i didnt know she was like that wtf evil whore" are the same people who made the threads.

samefagging indog.

>>810713
It's kind of gotten to the point where even some people neutral to Kiara like myself find all the anti-Kiara threads a bit annoying. She probably has like 5 threads up right now, more than any other individual vtuber. All these could simply be put into one or two threads instead of pushing other girls less active threads off the board.

>>811377
i dont get it myself. you dont like kiara? ok cool. but why shit on her day after day month after month. like what the fuck? wtf did she ever do lol.

always this shizo
https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png

>>810890
I dont want to get banned so just look lolcow + ke*kihim*

Hard cope when someone never interacts again with their idol lmafo

>>811441
You are the ones who dont get it, get your fucking whore in your thread and stop making 5 threads everytime someone talks shit about her, it happens to everyone but you are so fucking fragile you need to yell ANTIS ANTIS

>>811459
i have 71gb of roommate achived. i know more of her than most of the newfrens over there.
stil never saw a pro BLM post or any of the stuff they claim.

so again: proof? link? maybe i can add to my collection.

>>811482
what are you talking about? im not making any threads

>>811482
This guys probably just trying to gaslight newfags but for the record for anyone who doesn’t get it. What’s more likely:

KFPs making Kiara thread after Kiara thread despite every thread except one turning into an anti circle jerk.

or

Falseflaggers making Kiara threads in an effort to stir shit against her and annoy everyone who’s neutral to Kiara, getting everyone to hate her and her fanbase.

We KFP get it. Kiara doesn’t appeal to everyone and that’s fine. We’re happy with one thread and maybe global during streams.

Something people need to understand, including the pro Kiara people is that Kiara's other life spans a period of 10+ years by now.
The claims of manipulative, whiny, egotistical, etc have some truth to it in the past if you dig up old videos and social media post, and go deep in farms and archives. She had stupid fights with people, stupid competitions, desperate ways to look for validation and just feel better about herself and have company, because in all honestly she had a really shitty life and not a bright prospect for the future, and she knew she fucked up her career and was full of regret and resentment over life and over herself. I think this is part of why she does take antis opinions seriously, and she even said in a stream that even what haters say can hold some truth to it, so that's why she reads them.
The thing antis don't get though, is giving people a second chance. They keep her flaws from her teenage and young adult years as their image of who she is forever and have closed the case on her, and because of that they try to spin anything she does in her current life through the lens of what she used to do. They recycle the same old attacks over and over, but each week, each month, time passes and those attacks grow weaker and weaker, because they come from a time that each second is more and more distant, and the mental gymnastics needed to believe those narratives are more absurd the more time passes.
Kiara was frozen in the past for a long, long time, but she tried to pick herself up many times as well, and she fucked up each time, but with each fall she learned to be more humble and grateful, the importance of listening, of celebrating accomplishments, to give others a second chance; while others mature into becoming more cold and distant persons, what her growing years taught Kiara is how important it is to open your heart. That by opening your heart to others that hate and resentment can disappear, old fights can be resolved, and maybe, just maybe, it can lead you to meet more people and not be alone anymore.
Yes she's still a frail girl and can fall without the love of others, she cries her heart out very easily, she's not the smartest cookie and has done stupid things not that long ago, she beats herself up even for minor things and she's clingy and a bit crazy, but that's what makes her so endearing and so important to be at her side.
Now that she finally has the chance to live her dreams in a big stage, the people who give her that second chance can see all her qualities bloom like sunflowers or shine like a ray of sun. That's she's a bit (a bit?) airheaded, really emotional, insanely hardworking, and yes a crybaby and clingy, but also really sweet and wishes the best to everyone.

>>815044
Nothing wrong with a redemption arc

Tons of people refuse to allow the opportunity for redemption and those people are sick

i fully understand the people that dislike her and find her annoying, but jesus, fags on here straight up have a hateboner for her.
i've never seen so much seethe and anger focused on something as mundane as a chicken vtuber.
>muh roommate stuff!!!!
i'm pretty sure all the holos have their own personal beliefs and stuff that don't allign with you.
get a life man.

>>790440
There has to be talent for that

>>809586
People don't like her personality or her voice. That's more of a personal thing, but a lot of people think the same.

>>815044
I don't think I have the same conclusion as you about it. I've seen people say that, knowing about her past and history is the reason why they only dislike her rather than outright hate her. Knowing what she has done and gone through re-contextualizes how she acts now and some of her more questionable behavior patterns and actions. It serves as an explanation, rather than an excuse. They still don't enjoy her for how she is now, but knowing the damage and baggage she carries means they end up feeling pity rather than loathing.
That said, the murky rule strictness means that even what you've said could be sharing too much and without that context some people may not give her a chance beyond first impressions.

>>791064
>well she hasn't done a very good job at it
KEK

>>769158
>>769173
She's not a griffin, she's a phoenix

>>807735
You know what you bring up a good point. I used to think I was a likeable person because I had a good amount of friends, but gosh, there's just so many people who aren't my friends. who don't go out of their way to talk to me. Am I...Am I an asshole?

>>768235
>most people hate her and the rest simply tolerate her presence.
Honestly I don't think anyone in JP fits this, but they have the opposite with girls like Korone who seem like they only interact with a few others and it takes effort for them to interact outside their comfort zone. Aqua is another good example. Yeah, Kiara is pretty awful in personality, I hope her leaving Japan reduced the amount of collabs I have to endure. The singing with Nene was brutal, Kiara can't even sing.

>>768467
Because shes actually retarded and not smart enough to craft good entertainment

>>771378
>A whole bunch of the Holos have BFs
Bros... This is a rrat r-rright..?

>>811441
Because you KFPfags are like in your face vegans, annoying just like your bird oshi

>>810890
B-Bro j-just watch her streams!

>>768235
I am

>>823343
I think she's smarter than most people give her credit for. You have to remember she's trilingual and doing all her streams in her second language, and she probably has the strongest Japanese out of all the non Japanese Hololive girls. Her arts skills aren't bad either; not as good as Ina or Calli clearly, but stronger drawing skills than Gura and Ame.

>>823524
her iq is between 110-120
so yes shes above average intelligence

>>823644
110-120 is literal airhead intelligence, just enough to not shit her pants, in comparison kandyland streamer has 121iq

Kiara is literally the dumbest of the EN holos by far

>>768235
Kiara's my favorite in EN because she's able to talk to JP and put out entertaining social streams with other members. TakaMori is forced as shit but that's it.

>>823670
world average is 97. if youre 98 youre already above average, yours is 92 for example.

>>789933
>Ogey rrat

He doesnt know

>>815044
Well said.

>>823709
Im literally 140IQ took a test just weeks ago

Also ive studied psychology and philosophy my whole life, thats why i confidently know that kiara is absolutely retarded and inept, just as inept as you trying to tell others iq without having enough practice or knowledge about intellectual coefficient

You dumb fucking nigger

Onlyfans

>>809586
Egotistical, fake, media-trained, validation-heavy personality Similar to pokimane. If you can't see through it that's your fault for being an autistic reject. Any person with life experience can see through it.

>>823524
>I think she's smarter than most people give her credit for
Youre actually wrong, shes just very fucking dumb, ive studied coeficient for a while now enough to tell you that shes retarded, but since 99% of population is below 130iq she can be considered "normal"

>>823777
your internet IQ test isnt correct. now i realized i was wrong. your iq is actually 89

you also have black hair, bown eyes and skin.
i can tell from the way you talk.

>>815044
cool, but all of that doesnt appeal when you're still the same fragile, egotistical fuck. Lol "Hard life" sure if you were raised in beverly hills and you consider a hard life not having the newest iphone at 10

>>823834
>your internet IQ test isnt correct.
Yeah thas why i took an official one you dumb fucking retard

Why are you even coming up with retarded narratives only a mental handicapped like you would do? jesus fuck kill yourself dude

>now i realized i was wrong. your iq is actually 89

You actually cant realize shit since youre mentally retarded and delusional, legit rope yourself actual advice

>>823826
>>823819
>>823777
>>823670


ALERT!!!!!!!!!
ITS THE INDOG

https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png
https://files.catbox.moe/l1yt5s.png

everyone get ready to laugh at him!

remember to ask for proof for all of his claims ogey bros :D

>>823886
>Yeah thas why i took an official one
proof? being above 130 means youre part of the mensa club. give some proof indog-kun

>>823887
So stupid mate

This is why kiara has so many simps, most of them are retarded delusional fags who have no taste

>>823910
>being above 130 means youre part of the mensa club
Yeah basically, although i have other objectives than just being on a smart peoples club, this is just entertainment

>>823911
show me proof einstein-sama

not sure you guys know how IQ works
100 is the average

Christ, stop with this autistic who has the bigger IQ argument guys

>>823934
If you had enough brain mass you would be able to tell, legit anyone above 140 is capable of this but since youre actually retarded you cant tell smart from dumb people, youre just an npc

>>823971
for white people, not world wide. but the billions of niggers drag it down a little

>>823995
no, worldwide

IQ matter basically everywhere, it even shapes your taste thats why i made the argument only retard brainlets like kiara, just know your place instead of being delusional faggots

>>823982
>youre just an npc
is what an NPC would say after it cant handle the paradox

now can you show proof or not? its getting embarrassing for you.

>IQ

>>824027
>is what an NPC would say
See, you guide yourself by pre established dogmas you found lying somewhere instead of using your mental ability to accurately tell things apart
>>UUH IF SAY THIS YOU MUST BE THIS DUUUUH MY BRAIN ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE USED AT REAL TIME

>now can you show proof or not? its getting embarrassing for you.

The proof i have is for people smarter than a sack of potatoes, the only one embrassing himself is you, like you simply cant tell youre retarded and youre talking to someone way smarter than you, rope yourself

Its literally about life to a mentally retarded person, he may interpret as something completly mediocre because he lacks mental capability, thats basically it

If you want proof of if what im saying is correct just grow a brain

>>824150
>Its literally about life to
Its literally like talking about life to*

Enough arguing with the kiara brainlets, you can rot inside the fountain of mediocrity, it was designed for you

>>824150
>guys im 14000 IQ
>source: lol dude trust me

still no proof indog-kun

>People who shit on kiara are the same types who reduce internet arguments to IQ dick measuring contests
Everyone knows the DETECTIVE has the highest IQ, silly.

>>808123
next yabee which is going to be reading out loud a donation from eating mike tyson's ass!
lmao!

Only an absolute infantile retard will go around beating his chest about beeing "high IQ" whilst simultaneously not beeing wise enough not to spend his entire day arguing about some hyperactive 2d chicken lady. Utterly pathetic, also i wont respond to replies. I dont even like Kiara but some of you retards should get help.

>>768235
Matsuri, no questions.

>>823792
she is advertising her lewds on facebook tho

>>805622
k-kino...

>>824481
proof? link?

>>790245
If Gura breaks character, she's gonna basically speedrun her public opinion and mental health like Matsuri. It could even devolve into drinking, which we know what will happen when it does happen on-stream and how it ended last time.

Hopefully that won't happen and she will keep consuming unhealthy amounts of caffeine to avoid that scenario.

The clock is ticking already isn't it?, fuck, dammit shark

>>806725
Excellently based.

>>824500
facebook.com
????

>>807373
>Everyone here jacks off to turbo lesbians everyday yet lgbt rights being harmed is good

Cognitive dissonance evryone

People comparing IQs is the level of retardation I've come to expect from Kiara anti threads.

>>807373
Seems pretty based to me.

>>824609
give link to her ad indog-kun

>>824664
i don't have an account for stalking maybe some actual indonesian can help you
>Access to exclusive non-public cosplay photos

>>824630
Hey, the world ain't fair anon, and will never be.

I already gave up on politics and justice, nobody does it for the good will, it's all about cash and gaining the upper hand instead of equality for everyone, nobody up there cares or can change the system, it is rigged for both competing sides to keep leeching from the masses, fucking scheme.

Believe me, there's better things to live for, don't let the political movements dominate your life, is not worth it.

Fuck politics, specially American politics, those can go to hell, and Chinese and Russian ones even DEEPER!

>>824693
>dude there are tons of lewds trust me
>howeber im not sure myself since i dont have access tho
>but trust me its there
>sorry cant you give you link btw

understandable.
see you next thread indog-kun

>>824478
>>824584
What happened with Matsuri? Haven't paid attention to her for a while, and now everyone's saying public opinion is against her? Why?

>>809586
unrestrained homosexuality

>>807477
Oh no. Ame that's really cringe.

>>824736

>>824749
>>824664
Not him, but it's a bit unfair to ask for links to her roomates pictures and ads, knowing full well that it's a bannable offence.

Certainly, it wouldn't even be that surprising though since she used to advertise her new etsy store sets on facebook .

>>824749
lewds doesn't mean that footjob video or any kind of bullshit that belle delphine does.
lmao

>>824816
the point is he has no links. there is no such thing like a secret onlyfans or lewd photo website of her. its the same guy posting this every day in every anti thread. never any proofs to his claims

https://files.catbox.moe/3qbh6t.png

>>824853
if you wanna troll you need to use your brain more. you would think SOMEONE would cough up a few bucks to get acccess and leak the shit out of this. but it never happens. because THERE IS NO such thing. youre making up stories because your shithole doesnt provide you any meds.

>>824855
all the lewds I mentioned about are not secret though
you just have to either pay up or run patreondownloader.exe
dumbass motherfucker

>>824901
proof?
give me link then

oh you have no proof?
sad day

>>772113
>the usual trannies
I never understood why KFP hasthis obsession with trannies.
Is it because their oshi is a loud and active trans right supporter?

>>824481
Onlyfans.

>>824916
I still didn't mean porn with lewds.
have a nice day.

>>824962
i know what lewds are yet you STILL didnt give a single link or a pic. all you do is talking bullshit

typical indog-kun
like i said, see you next thread.

>>824920
I'm not a person who calls all anti Kiara people trannies, but I believe the origin of that was back when there was a big Kiara anti seen in pic related, who used to hate reply to all her tweets and make regular anti copypastas back on /jp/. Said anti was a trannie, thus the whole meme started.

>>824988
there are no links because You didn't make an account
facebook.com
patreon.com
come on

>>824999
too bad he isnt part of the 43%. or is it even higher nowdays?

>>825032
?? log in and show me links or pics
you have an account correct? otherwise how else would you know?

>>825082
>you have an account correct?
nope
no nudity no care

>>825147
ok to get this straight: you claim she sells lewds. the only way to know this is if you pay her to sell you lewds. you dont have an account. you never bought any lewds. so you literally have NO WAY you can know that this even exist, and there is not a single person in the entire world who leaked this before. yet you know all of this.

okok man i see

>>825195
>the only way to know this is if you
do your reps

>>825233
>i totally have proof trust me
>b-but im not gonna show you LOL find yourself!!!

ok indog-kun

>>824775
She revealed too much about her real life and she is legitimately has like a borderline personality or is some sort of severe mental illness.
>Went from morbidly obese to severly underweight by starving herself. End up collapsing and hospitalized.
>Massive emotional outburst over stupid petty shit like an Apex tournamnet
>Gropes and sexually harasses people
>Obsessive one sided relationships
You only have to look at her roommates youtube/twitter for like 5 minutes to find out she is mental.

>>825249
yeah it's not that difficult to grasp huh
>/status/1076842251328851969?lang=de

>>825308
>posts a link that leads to nowhere

here man look, i have tons of ollie porn. shes taking 4 nigger cocks at the same time while self hating on her indog "men" claiming they cant pleasure her

here is the link: /status/1076842251846987851969?lan=en

>>825308
If that photo set is your standard, Hololive would lose a lot of beloved talents.

>>825344
there are no twitter post by that number
fake news

>>825369
well it's hard to go back to 3D from virtual girlfriend experience
or something deviants say

>>825442
ofc not. because ollie doesnt exist ( probably lol ) . same with kiara. your link leads to nowhere except her usual twitter cosplay stuff.

i still see no secret onlyfans or facebook group or any of that shit. because it DOESNT exist.

if it did i would own it since long time ago.

>>825456
>i still see no secret onlyfans or facebook group or any of that shit. because it DOESNT exist.
YES thank you!

>>825489
then why run around and claim you know some grand secret lewd stuff about her? i dont give a fuck about dox this is fucking 4chan. but all you post is shit from 3 years ago that everyone already knows.

this pisses off people like me who ACTUALLY farm secret stuff.
if you dont have secret milk then dont run around claming your some kind of boss who knows things nobody else knows and then dont deliver.

reminder that chicken was unironic prostitute for a short time

>>825889

>>825889
she never stopped being a prostitute, anon.

>>807477
Why Gary Johnson?

>>807373
wasn't it prove that Brexit would just put the UK in a worse place trade wise

>>811441
that image always makes me laugh when I see it. it's like revealing a Scooby-Doo villain

>>826662
Yes but nobody voted for it for economic arguments

>>809586
lots of spergs in the vtuber community leads to an overlap between vtuber viewers and lolcow viewers, so these people are desperate for a vtuber lolcow and chose kiara

>>789933
>rrat
anon i...

>>778272
don't hate kiara but this post is literally cope, clearly a good amount of people dislike her.

>>770942
>71g of her roommate
anon i think you might be a little biased KEK

>>768235
Unrelated to the topic, which stream did you get that Kiara pic from?