/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76970345
How much money did they lose again

>>76970471
The EN branch used to bring in $40 million a year, and now it's like half that number

>>76970345
No. Not unless there's some sort of evidence that they knew it to be untrue and were trying to mislead investors.

>>76970345
Can you prove it was Selen termination that had impact on financial results and not hundreds of other Nijisanji problems?

>>76970345
Is it really lying if you’re just genuinely retarded?

>>76970345
It wasn't false. Their finances were already going to shit anyway.

>>76970626
Selen was terminated February 5th, and Q3 ended January 31st. In other words, that was how much EN's revenue had dropped BEFORE her termination, the Q4 report due in a couple weeks will show what happened since then.

>>76971094
This is true if you look year-on-year, but if you look quarter-on-quarter there was a big drop between Q3 and Q4 2023 and a slow decline since then. We don't know what the Q4 results will look like but if sales correlate with viewership we can estimate a drop of around 33% quarter-on-quarter and 55% year-on-year

>>76971446
Relax, more organs means more percentage increase..?? Right..?? Had to be retarded otherwise.

>>76971612
Would be true if they hadnt lost 3 big earners with Kyo, Pomu and Selen.
Vivi and Kunai certainly arent anywhere near making the same money and I dont expect the 3 new ones to do that either.
So we have 6 new talents and even together they probably wouldn't make the money lost just for Pomu alone.
I am gonna be bold. They could have new talents and it wouldnt bring in as much money as Selen and Pomu did.

>>76971887
The could have 20 new talents*

>>76970345
Where's the lie?

>>76971446
> Promotion
They were supposed to have a Hyte collab but Hyte cancelled it so it may take a hit
> Event
This shit has always been 0 and it could have stayed that way until the Selen situation forced Riku to release AR live and hope this metric will fill the gaps
> Commerce
I'm guessing this is about merch and I don't know whether sisters would spam support for EN in harsh times by buying merch or not, but there will definitely be a decrease
> Livestreaming
LMFAO. This shit will be cut by at least two thirds or worse due to the sub culling and the huge decrease of CCV

In conclusion, expect the yellow block to fill half of the total Q4 block, but I bet the Q4 block will be shorter than Q3 by at most half because of the other factors (unless sisters somehow saved them with increase of merch selling)

>>76970345
Technically, NijiEN’s revenue was already in free fall before Selen was terminated, so it’s not like it was actually untrue per se.

I mean, the Q3 was fucked beyond repair, but the Selen SHOKU had a direct impact on how much the stocks died.
>No one expected the Q3 to be THAT bad
>The Q4 is usually pretty damn weak, but Anycolor said that they were betting everything on it
>All of this while NijiEN was literally burning down
The stocks would have taken a hit regardless of what happened to Selen, but her termination made everyone understand that NijiEN doesn't have any future.

>>76970831
>>76971094
>>76972164
4 months ago, Anycolor did a buy back and the stock price rose up and it had stayed that way for at least 3 weeks with no signs of going down. But just so happens that on Feb 5 that their stock took a massive nosedive, then the Q3 report took them down even further and it doesn't seem like it will go back anytime soon

In fact it got so bad that they reached their NEW LOWEST in Anycolor history now that they passed below 2.1k mark, and that's when we still have 2 more weeks till Q4 drops

What event happened on faithful Feb 5 ? Selen termination notice. Is that just a mere coincidence ?

>>76970345
It's got to either be an intentional lie or gross negligence. Both of those are pretty hard to prove.

Reminder that we still don't know how many tickets Singapore or AR Live sold. They could have raked in cash for all we know.

>>76973095
If viewership declines so too does the amount of people willing to buy tickets. Doubly so after a shit showing. Also Singapore was a physical event wasn't it, the one where you could see a crowd of maybe 100 people?

It was technically true, since Q3 had already ended, so the SEREN SHOKKU did in fact not have an impact in the upcoming financial results report

>>76972676
How do you suppose Anycolor's stock price affects their financial results? Let's say I invest a couple billion USD in their stock this quarter, do you believe that would somehow improve their revenue?

>>76972047
Riku will pull of some black magic to make the reports look normal. trust the plan!

>>76974616
my rrat is that they bring out the c&d now to threaten people into silence so they wont say anything when the report comes out. when everyone figures out its just scaretactics and they have no legal ground to stand on the report will be old news.

>>76973242
It was physical, and even the boys didn't sell out, but the AR live was online so they may have made lots from streaming it, even with all the complaints it had because no refunds. I don't know if VR was streamed or not, but with how unprofessional it was, it probably wouldn't look that good either

>>76970731
that'll turn up in discovery.

>>76975037
They'll discover a time machine?

>>76970345
Why do you think he apologized? To prevent lawsuits. He explained that was unintended word choice.

>>76971446
>>76972047
Remember they did clearance sale of all old merch and reran voice packs after Q3 report in attempts to save Q4. Anything is possible. I'm hoping it's a big decrease. I want to see them burn down.

>>76970345
A factually untrue statement is not a lie if the person making it is genuinely delusional enough to believe it to be true. Honestly, that doesn’t look good for Riku either, but it might work in the absence of hard evidence that he knew it wouldn’t be negligible. Also, the Q3 report and its aftermath were bad enough that the rules of the TSE don’t allow them to fall as far when Q4 hits, barring a sustained panic. Riku better hope the weekend after the report drops will save his ass again.

>>76974844
It's very possible Singapore event was a financial loss, unless they manage to hide the costs.

>>76976331
the remedy for deliberately deceptive investor advice is not to dogeza on youtube. it's to issue additional investor advice correcting the material misrepresentation in the selen shock advice.

>>76976652
Dogeza on YouTube feels more honest. Better at appeasing the anger.

>>76976759
riku tazumi's investor advice was a criminal act. he is a criminal. this is very serious. this isn't some PR thing where you debate what the best play is for a public response. he committed yet another criminal act and belongs in prison.

>>76976863
his daddy would just buy out the prison

>>76971887
>big earners with Kyo,
Kyo was never a big earner. He was an accessory nijimale at best.
Other than that, accurate.

>>76974107
Do you understand the words you are using?

Imagine if Japanese FBI arrested Riku for being linked to a ponzi scheme? Because this is exactly what nijien is.

>>76977283
He was on the Forbes 30 under 30 list, right? Almost everyone on that list is there due to either fraud or nepotism.

>>76971887
Kyo has decent audience but it was people interested in shipping him with other nijis. That was his entire value.

>>76978331
had*

>>76970345
No but they can try to have him removed however Riku is also friends with another high stock holder who is also his fuck buddy to vote against his removal.

>>76977159
Looks like he does. The poster he replied to doesn't seem to understand much of anything which is probably why he made the post.

>>76970345
no, but he can sue you for suggesting it

>>76974844
It being online doesn't really mean much when the tickets were extremely expensive.

>>76974749
No one's gonna comply with their C&Ds anymore post-report. They probably don't have enough money or competent enough lawyers to enforce them already, and they definitely won't after they're forced to explain to a room full of investors why every single revenue stream they have is dead

>>76970345
How is this Riku's fault? he actually tried to keep her as long as possible. To be honest they should have fired this megera a year ago. she is the epitome of a Western woke woman who doesn’t want to work and is constantly complaining about something.

>>76980026
>he actually tried to keep her as long as possible.
Yes. This is literally what happened. She wanted out and instead of letting her go quietly, they killed the entire company.

>>76970345
Lying would be a crime. Being wrong is not.

>>76971887
Thing is, they didn't have anyone to REPLACE those 3 when Q4 was going on. At the very least they had Kyo still streaming until his graduation in late February, but even then that's not gonna help replace the lost revenue not just from losing two of your top female talents but also many of your talents going into hiding.

>>76981220
B-but it's okay! Look! They got a half-finished AR Live, a flopped mario kart tournament, a disaster of a "concert," and now AX is selling we-, well it's sold some tickets!

>>76981220
Its also not just those 3 leaving.
Mysta and Nina as well will probably leave a big hole for the year.

>>76974616
Oh there's no doubt that he'll engage in some sort of chicanery to try to hide EN's failure from the investors.
The catch is that he has to do it through 100% legal means. Because as bad as the damage to the company has been thus far, it would look like a slightly damp fart compared to the damage that would happen if they get caught running afoul of Japanese securities laws.

>>76983684
One issue I have:
That one event delayed/cancelled last year and done this year.
I dont know about the legalities if the tickets were meant and sold for the event last year but if they add it to the finances for this year as they have delayed/brought it back this year.

>>76983858
in western corporate accounting, you'll see companies recognize that revenue in a variety of ways depending on the circumstances. what's important is to have a consistent practice for how you count it, and make goddamn sure you only count it once.

>>76970345
Being wrong about statements is not a crime. It is a crime to purposefully mislead investors. The word negligible is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Losing your largest female liver in a sub branch and knowing about a major HR complaint and hospitalization (thus, possible major incoming PR issue, and possible legal action) is stretching things quite a bit. You would probably need to pair it with proving that they are knowingly misleading investors rather than just being completely incompetent. For example, pairing it with an executive selling off stock before it blew up. Which I don't think happened?

>>76974749
They've lost multiple cases even in japan. They even sabo'd the case for that one liver they kept suspended for like 3 fucking years.

>>76981220
That's only cause they suspended almost the entire branch for 2 weeks while they were shitting their pants from the thick wad of facts and logic Selen dumped on them when their lawyer stopped replying.

>>76970345
good luck

>>76970626
That doesn't mean anything

>>76991872
COPE

>>76991872
>money doesn't mean anything
Sisters don't even oshi the company anymore...

>>76970345
>Has factually, objectively, not even ratting lost MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLAR in value since Febraury 5.
I feel confident to testify this statement is false in a fucking court of law, but japanese are too cucks to do anything, they will at best fire Riku if he resufes to do dividends or another buyback. They literally don’t care if the yacht is sinking if their lifeboats keep receiving gold and the sis are too retarded to acually demand any quality.
It’s fun how China could be a superpower if their population wasn’t so brainwashed they forgot to not make them also retarded.