/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

PTSDeez Nuts

haha gottem

>>76959713
The seethe from False's video will be delicious

Everyone who has made a thread about Twitter users should be shot.

>>76959713
>More nijidrama

I can't believe they shot themselves in the foot once again

>>76959890
Where's that webm from?

>>76959713
the victim of WHAT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>76960092
of the consequences of their own actions of course

>>76959713
gimmie the qrd senpai. I wanna laugh at them too

>>76959713
it goes on and on

>>76959961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6isNTmaePno

>>76959713
They shouldn't be happy. She already leaked everything juicy months ago, and now drama channels have the perfect excuse to dredge it back up and make it fresh in everyone's minds again.

>>76960242

>>76960346
Thanks, I didn't notice it was reversed lol

>>76959713
nijisanji,the liver and nijisister are circus that keep giving man LMAO truly fuckng lolcow

>>76960242
Are these the same people who try to discredit Doki for her professionally diagnosed BPD?

>>76960526
I don't see anything wrong with calling your grifting make a wish menhera being called exactly that

>>76960242
Raziel should just repost the document for kek

>>76960589
NIJISEETHE

>Grooming a minor
>The minor in question was 18 years old at the time

>>76960242
>kamioshiS
It's always amazing how they have multiple no. 1 lone favourites

>>76960913
extra funny since their real and only oshi is Riku

>>76959713
>2k likes
Pathetic. Sisters are THIS weak?

>>76960838
Amerimutts think dating an 18 year old is pedophilia if the age gap is 5+ years.

>>76959850
This was a mildly interesting topic at least

>>76961399
The other day I saw one of them call themselves a "23 year old minor"

>>76960838
>Source being from the groomer
Kek. What a coincidence that she only started talking to him directly after he turned 18

>>76961450
well, I guess you may say that this was a literal womanchild

>>76961399
>>76961450
People who find sex uncomfortable latched on to age gap discourse and the entire topic is poison now

>>76960242
>she/her (maybe shit)

>>76960589
>grifting menhera
But enough about Sonny

>>76959713
>you see he was groomed into constantly sexually harassing women who have no interest in them
Thank god nijisisters exist to show what real mental illness is like. Makes me feel good about myself

>>76961609
Sonny made no money off his LARP and admitted that it was larp. When is Doki going to admit it was larp? Will she return all her money?

>>76961450
Kek

>>76961674
>Unironic Sonnyfag
Grim....

>>76959850
nah

>>76961651
>He wasn't groomed! The woman was only ten years older than him and insists she's not a pedophile because he was barely legal and 18! Don't question the fact he was still in highschool when she says they met meaning he was probably under 18 when they spoke. Just believe my retarded rrat of him raping everyone including me
This is the mentality of dramafags

>>76959713
He named his fanbase lucubs?

>>76961764
eww where did you crawl out from?

>>76960838
You missed it when twitterfaggots called Kishimoto a pedophile for daring to make Naruto's entire cast grow and ultimately have children.

How come when Louis CK jerks off in front of someone its assault but when Luca jerks off in front of someone its endearing

>>76961674
>Nijisanji literally admits in the black stream that Selen was in the hospital because of an attempt
>Nijisisters:n-no it was all a larp
Retard

>>76961764
Go back to twitter faggot

>>76961852
>>76961963
I accept your concession

>>76961764
He was an adult, neither of them were interested in a relationship, and if anyone wore the pants in their friendship, it was him

>>76961895
Easy

Louis CK didn't have enough parasocial weirdos that wanna fuck him, or...watch him be fucked? I dunno the fans of Nijis male talents are fuckin weird.

>>76961983
Yes, it has been conceded you come from Twitter. Now go back.

>>76961983
>concession posting at the first sight of adversity

>>76961995
He was an "adult" by her own words. Not anyone not accused of pedophilia. Meaning he was probably still in highschool, probably at the age of 17 at most. She was a VR chat whore and would go to private rooms with him to engage in VR chat sex and would call him so they would masturbate in each other's ears. She was ten years older, sent him expensive gifts, knew all about his personal life, offered him a place to live to get away from his mom and had a meltdown over him not talking to her as much in which she tried to guilt trip him into paying more attention to her. How the fuck was Luca the one wearing the pants? He was nearly groomed into going full tranny

>>76959713
>ptsd
>grooming
Lol lmao

>>76962202
Source?

>>76962202
If he wasn't under 14 when they met then I don't care. We manipulate women from our teens because it's so easy. I'm manipulating two as we speak

>>76962202
Those >probably are carrying your fat ass lucuck

>>76961446
There is nothing interesting about discussing literal whos on twitter and your kind are the reason other blue boards became reddit

Sisters out here writing fanfiction titled "Here's How Luca Became a Trap Sissy and Now Only Cums from his Ass"
The self inserting as Raziel fantasies got too out of hand.

>>76961764
>met each other in a 18+ server
>"he was definitely underage, trust me guys"

>>76960353
Yep, just like False is about to do and I'm betting that Khyo and Legal Mindset will make videos too. Might even get another Rev video

>>76962288
but manipulation is a sin anon

>>76962309
You're right. It should be a single probably because Raziel talked about how he still mentioned girls from his highschool to disprove that she wasn't a jealous controlling ex. He was definitely in highschool meaning he is extremely likely to be under 18

>>76962202
Pretty sure the "meltdown" happened well after he joined nijisanji. Don't recall her masturbating either

>>76962399
I’m surprised Khyo didn’t make a vid an hour after he found out, that fag is always the first to jump on shit

>>76960242
A lot of Homostars fans kek

>>76960838
you havent got the memo yet? a 90 year old dating a 70 year old is recognized as pedophilia nowadays!

>>76962425
Oh fuck I didn't know, I'm just a boy please understand

>>76962512
LONDON

>>76962202
Sister i dont know how to tell you this but your oshi was also a vr manwhore

>>76962444
Try again lucuck, you're still spouting nonsense lmao

>>76962463
It doesn't take a genius to know that the person claiming sexual harassment through a call was obviously not telling the truth as her own screenshot has her apologize that her and Luca were interrupted by Luca's mom. She was a VR chat whore who'd go into sex servers, anon

I wonder what luca is thinking now, assuming he didn't get them to do this cease and desist. The guy must be banging his head on a wall right now.

>>76959713
where are all those mythical groomers? I want to get groomed too...

>>76962746
>She was a VR chat whore who'd go into sex servers, anon
Damn that's crazy. You would think she would try to start a relationship with one of the people she found in those servers instead.

>>76962876
Well I hate to tell you but the actual adults there aren't easily impressionable and horny teenage boys that are practically free to manipulate

why does niji have a monopoly on cuckqueans...

>>76962746
>>76962876
>>76962985
What in the fuck is this twisted narrative. She’s retarded but also stated she wasn’t looking for a relationship. But that would require reading and fact checking which is asking too much of some underage grifters on Twitter. Go back.

>>76962985
It's not complicated. Luca was a horny teenage boy who got involved with this woman who had the hots for him too. Idk who manipulated who but the word "grooming" is not what I would use here.

Anyways luca still made her do stuff for him and told her stuff she had no business knowing so there's that.

>>76963126
Not going to give her a view

>>76963337
On a PDF file that is only distributed via 3rd parties at the moment? That’s not a view you fucking idiot. You’re so fucking stupid it hurts. Commenting and QRTing her is more likely to give her revenue from Twitter ads you know that right?
>You must be 18+ to post on this site.

>>76963126
>She’s retarded but also stated she wasn’t looking for a relationship
Oh , well if she said so. Forget the sex, gifts, offers to stay at her place and the insanely personal details about his family he would tell her. She said she wasn't trying to groom a horny teenage boy so she wasn't

>>76963489
A pdf 70 pages long.

>>76961764
>This is the mentality of dramafags
sisters talking about mentality? what are you CLOWN mentality? KEK

Reminder that he fapped to her voice on not to you ugly sisters LMAO

>>76960242
What kind of mental illness compels someone to make a collage of random Twitter users with no influence whatsoever?

>>76963741
Dramafags are thirsting to death now that Niji has become practically a desert for drama and indies have become the next drama wave

>>76959850
Nice try nyfco sisters

>>76963217
>Idk who manipulated
That part comes when she would try to guilt him into paying more attention to her and she would become increasingly jealous of him speaking to others

>>76962796
He's licking his lips, ready to pounce on the 2 new girls after he returns from Japan in a few days.

>>76962796
he's probably jerking off to some chick's voice in the vr chat again

>>76963867
Oh man at the end of the day, their relationship drama is not that important.

The meat of this reveal is a lot of other things, like her skin walking as him, him telling her nda stuff. And niji refusing to fire him even after he broke nda showing favouritism.

>>76963798
>Niji has become practically a desert for drama

>>76963609
What sex? What expensive gifts? And how are you blaming her for him providing details of his own life to her? He also gifted her things, and his other friends gifted him things too according to her document. Even ignoring the first half of the document the second half is still true. He used her to forge his entire career and do all his work so he could be lazy and talk shit about the other livers behind their backs. I’m surprised you can even solve a captcha to post.

>>76963609
All the stuff you keep bringing up is, to me, a sign of how weird and unhealthy their friendship was, but not grooming. The most damning stuff (her masturbating, him being a minor) is speculation at best

AO3 and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>76962796
Yeah I think he's too retarded to think long term into the future. He has a comfy place in niji and is loaded. I doubt he grasps the implication of all this.

>>76963859
You say this and yet it's peak doxxfag/female behavior to obsess over randoms on Twitter. Look at you. You are a male kvetching over a tweet.

>>76964082
The worst part is that yumes don't go to AO3 because they are not shippers, they still go to Wattpad for their self insert wetdreams

>Luca shits on his fans 24/7
>Lucucks still defend him
Maybe I should get a generic ikemen model, I want the schizos to give me money and kill for me.

>>76964032
It's even funnier because Niji themselves admit they're so jealous of Fuwamoco they're willing to hire minors in an attempt to copy them.

>>76964082
>>76964182
It is interesting to me that so many Niji stans are paradigmatic Fandom People. Wonder why that is

>>76964044
>What sex?
Her own admission of phone sex happening in her document and the basic fact that they were in VR chat sex servers together constantly
>What expensive gifts?
The one she talked about giving him for Christmas with the help of her friend. He was a teenager, he didn't have the money to give her expensive shit
>And how are you blaming her for him providing details of his own life to her
To prove they were clearly in a relationship based on the behavior. Don't know if that's what you would call a groomer getting with the groomed though
>used her to forge his entire career and do all his work
That matters so much less than the groomed teenager, it's miniscule in comparison. It's like saying someone saying Epstein might be bad but at least he didn't steal some pretzels from the grocery store once. She wrote his scripts and did his signature for him. That's not all his work. Him complaining about people isn't important either. You act like a retard

>>76964323
Fujos have always existed. Now they can pay their fantasy man money for them to moan in their ear and say their name directly. If I was born into this age I sadly would be like them too

>>76964032
In comparison to 2023 Niji yeah it pretty much is a desert
You have the perennial Sayu whining and typical "new Vshojo debut notes how good her managers are now and how it's nice she can get a play button" routine and not much else

>>76964435
>Fujos
>moan in their ear and say their name directly
That's not what fujos want, that's yumes

>>76964169
Its female behavior to gossip and speculate about other females online
Its male behavior to laugh at females doing that
Get it correct sis

>>76964468
>In comparison to 2023 Niji yeah it pretty much is a desert
So this is the new form of the nijisister.

>>76964503
I shall dub her....downplaying debby

>>76964067
>The most damning stuff (her masturbating, him being a minor) is speculation at best
Sure, but the fact is he was still in highschool and her behavior isn't the behavior of someone who was "sexually harassed" by him in her own screenshot which she tried to explain away.

>>76964524
In my opinion is not a form of downplaying

>>76964383
That's a good part of his work
And the signature reminds his fans that their oshi doesn't give a shit about them

Literally who cares about the allegations on her, even if they were true and she deserves death or whatever, that has nothing to do with Luca also being a shitter
The point is he and Niji sucks, the thing is nijisisters use the points you bring up to dismiss everything Raziel says about him which come on, is just denial and wishful thinking
They're trying to obfuscate the truth by any means because it's painful to realize the people they admire suck

>>76964503
You're going to love this, trust me. What you're seeing now is my normal state. This is a Super Sister. And this. This is what is known as a Super Sister that has ascended above a Super Sister. or, you could just call this a Super Sister 2.
AND THIS.
AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>76964503
Sayu whine and Vshoujo shilling has been a thing ever since Matara crawled back into the sphere. It's the same Niji drama junk from when Nina graduated. Got stale once Mint became totally not a Vshoujo

Sisters can't even read..."comply with it as I have until know". She already told everything, her ammo is 0, but Niji genius PR fuels the drama again.

>>76964323
>Wonder why that is
They are in specific the shitty part of fandom people. This actually confirms to me now that it's always a small loud group that ruins it all for the rest.
Niji is like a big circlejerk for them.

>>76964643
kek

>>76964645
So true Debbie
Did you hear what Groomer Expert Georgia said about Luca?

>>76961930
I'm pretty sure the black stream also said not to harass anyone, yet here we are.

>>76964383
>Her own admission of phone sex happening in her document and the basic fact that they were in VR chat sex servers together constantly
So you're admitting that she met Luca through a VRchat sex server, something that's 18+? So you're saying there's no reason to assume he wasn't 18 when he joined?

>>76964614
>That's a good part of his work
Two scripts and scribing a signature for a piece of his merch isn't a good part of his work. A good part of his work is streaming, which he does. I don't give a fuck about the morality of getting someone else to sign merch in your place
>"The point is he and Niji sucks. Stop focusing on the groomer menhera clearly omitting facts and giving cropped screenshots as evidence"

Most of the shit she leaked is nothing. Who gives a shit if he and Ike got into a spat once? Most of it was just her crying about how mean Luca was to her which is why people are focusing on her

>>76964383
> Her own admission of phone sex happening in her document and the basic fact that they were in VR chat sex servers together constantly
No where in the document this was said. It was said they were apart of an 18+ streamer lobby, which was streamed, so while it may have had sexual themes it was not a sex server like you’re claiming.
> >What expensive gifts?
The one she talked about giving him for Christmas with the help of her friend. He was a teenager, he didn't have the money to give her expensive shit
Ok, so it wasn’t just her. You’re saying friends can’t give presents to other friends? What is this proving? He went on to gift her stuff back eventually, not in that moment. No where did it mention what kind of gift and what the value was.
> To prove they were clearly in a relationship based on the behavior. Don't know if that's what you would call a groomer getting with the groomed though
He went up to some older girl in VRChat and started trauma dumping. I fail to see how that’s her fault. The only thing she is complicit in this is accepting invites to private worlds to listen to him.
> That matters so much less than the groomed teenager,
They are both important, but the grooming allegations is far less important because there is zero proof of this happening. They have always been surrounded by 4 view streamers and their communities and yet somehow all of a sudden she is now grooming him? You’re going to push aside the fact that she built stuff on his corporate accounts in Minecraft, signed his merch, broke his NDA multiple times, has been accused of harassment by an anonymous coworker - this we can at least agree is shaky at best but still exists, videos, overlays, she did more than scripts and the merch. You’re downplaying this bad.

>>76964862
>Two scripts and scribing a signature for a piece of his merch isn't a good part of his work.
>it doesn't matter if we can confirm he didn't do things he said he did like a basic signature if it wasn't a lot!

>>76964527
No one has ever said he was still in high school. If you want to go after someone, go after roflgator who knew him when he was 17 and used him to sexually trap people.

Imagine not believing the schizos who warned you what was coming. Sisters should have stopped fucking around other people's generals. It looks like the clique won't survive the merge. Heh

>>76964829
So we're already at the point where he was under 18 but that she didn't know it? I'm glad. She would have definitely by the point where he started spilling his life story to her

>>76964991
Fucking this. Rob's a known VRchat weirdo, only reason he's not constantly exploding in drama is because everyone whose ever interacted with him got drunk and gave him dirt he's holding over them.

>>76964862
She did a lot of other stuff for him. Besides, I was at least as interested in the details of how nijisanji operates as the sensationalism, and I don't think I'm alone in that regard

>>76962141
>pic
when she sees my huge cock

>>76964982
Sisters mental gymnastics are at the Olympic level. Imagine justifying a scammer.

>>76965037
She did know it you dense dramaobsessed idiot.
Who the fuck thinks a high schooler is over 18?

>>76965037
No, we’re not, and a minor lying about his age is very bad on that minor not the adult. If you read the document there are timestamps and proof of when they met, which according to public sources dated him as being 18 at the time.

>>76959713
>18+ yo
>"groom victim"
LMAO
do nijifags really?
also
>>>>>big of a W
yes, sending a c&d is such victory. nintendo would be proud!

>>76959713
>Luca, the victim of grooming
hahahahaha

>>76962491
Neither of them are Homostars fans

>>76965037
No we're at the point where you're schizophrenically assuming that 18+ does in fact not mean 18+. It's one thing to lie about it during your first few Porbhub trips, it's another to do so in a setting where you're directly talking to other people. They're all going to assume you're an adult because that's the baseline assumption.
On top of that, you still don't have any proof they met prior to his birthday anyways. Weird, considering how it was a streamer server with someone on basically every hour of every day.

>>76965144
He's a dumbass Luca obviously repeated a grade.

>>76965184
HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL
It literally does not matter what anyone says
The second he is a HIGH SCHOOLER he is off limits

Age of consent in Australia is 16.
Drinking age in Australia is 18.
Assuming they did have e-sex, what now?

>>76965144
That happens in plenty of countries
I was 19 when I graduated HS? doesn't prove anything

>>76965144
>>76965237
Sister... high schoolers even without being held back can be 18 years old in Australia...

>>76965237
>HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL
what if Luca graduated at 19 because he's a dumb fuck

>>76965237
Where is it ever stated he was in high school? Where is the proof? If you can dig through old roflgator clips or some shit and prove it maybe I’ll believe you, but for how obsessive you fans are there is zero proof of this anywhere.

>>76965184
nyfco script, anon
they tried this already when the pdf dropped
from
>"he was 18!!"
to
>"he was ABOUT TO be 18!!!"
into
"they met before, when he was still a minor!!!!!"
check the archives

>>76965237
20 YEAR OLD CHILD energy
18+ is 18+ take it up with lawmakers

>>76965286
WILL YOU TAKE THAT RISK?
WILL YOU THINK ANY DECENT HUMAN BEING SHOULD TAKE THAT RISK

>>76965237
oh I see, the latest script!
was he also brestfeeding?

>>76965356
You're not human being you're a subhuman SEA doxxfag sis

>>76965356
What fucking risk? See >>76965282

>>76965237
And that would be relevant in the world where she tried to fuck him, but in this one, neither of them wanted that.

>>76965356
yes

>>76965356
What does that have to do with anything
Look man I'm really sorry Luca doesn't really love you guys, but stop taking it out on other people

>>76965356
What risk...? It's pretty likely for a high schooler to be 18 in a country like Australia. On top of that, where's the proof he was a high schooler to begin with? I don't remember that part of the doc.

>>76965329
I can see Luca making his female classmates do his homework. He then failed his exams and graduated at 20

>>76965356
I fucked my 19 year old partner when I was 17 in high school. Were they a groomer too? We met in middle school.

>>76965356
Besides apparently AoC being 16 in australia, and europe, if they meet in 18+ vr chatrooms... then yea, it should not be much of a risk and perfectly fine to assume the person is of age.

>>76963798
>Dramafags are thirsting
nah,they are full of free food served by none other than niji themself

Wow you really would bring up age of consent
Sexual predators defending a sexual predator
I'm SHOCKED

>>76965356
>RISK?
There isn't a risk to begin with. The dude said he was 18, there's reason to believe he's 18, and there isn't a single mention of him being in high school in that document.

>>76965151
You are still a child until 25.

>>76964479
could have sworn dramafaggots just gossiped about (and tried and failed to doxx) a debuting nijien male just a few days ago

>>76965650
i know right? imagine defending luca, a sexual predator

>>76965650
Even if we ignore how only one person did so and assume that an 18+ server wouldn't accept people with non-18+ age of consents, that still doesn't change the fact you're screaming about how someone can't be 18 in their Senior year without being held back.

>>76965650
Aggressively looking for the youngest people you can get away with screwing is messed up, but it does in fact matter whether someone was a minor or not

>>76965670
Under what legal metric?

>>76959713
Will this kill Luca? He did shit all over his contract and technically Niji can't really hurt this woman since it's all his fault. This WILL backfire but will it hurt him in any way?

>>76965237
>HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL
Proof?
>>76965356
>RISK?
He said he was 18 and there's no reason to disbelieve him.

>>76965650
Calling everyone a sexual predator is making you sound very reasonable, you are in fact very right and amazing and everyone else is crazy

>>76965650
No, really, how is Raziel a sexual predator? How did we get here?
>Made it clear she didn’t want a relationship
>Screenshots exist of her talking about a husband in their public discord with Luca
>Luca was the one being obsessive and clingy before Nijisanji
>Still doesn’t erase the fact that she did all the behind the scene work for him, including technical stuff so he could stream
She has even admitted the friendship was fucked up and they were both abusive towards the end. Who cares.

>>76964294
>they're willing to hire minors
But enough about hololive.

>>76965650
Nobody is defending Luca, the man who decided to publicly masturbate to someone not even a month after meeting them, though?

I don't get it, did they change the meaning of the word grooming?

>>76965895
Can't hide this during a JP merger. The man is a liability despite also being an earner. Keep in mind JP management is a different chief to the EN one.

>>76966009
No sisters are just co-opting it to mean "my innocent pure baby could never want to have sexual relations with women".

>>76965948
I'm not going to believe someone who is clearly not giving us the full picture
I hope when this goes to court all the stuff she is obviously hiding gets exposed

>>76965670
someone's frontal lobe isn't fully developed? oh nooo!!! Still the law is The Law and doesn't mean they are excused from accountability for their own actions. That's for actual minors!
Doesn't matter how many twitter threads you make about it.

>>76966009
The minors on twitter did, yes. They might even be… amongus.

>he got groomed by a woman he specifically went for
oh okay

>>76965854
Twitter and reddit.

>>76965895
It will but he is too dense to see it. You need to pull the rug from under a guy like that to realise how much shit he's in. Niji is the only thing protecting him. If he ever gets out he will get the shock of his life realising every indie has blacklisted him.

>>76965948
They're just trying to minimize and obfuscate the wrong things Luca (and Nijisanji) did and shift the attention to LE GROOMER

Nothing changes the fact Luca (and Uki) committed way more legitimate infractions than Selen/Sayu did, and they received absolutely no negative repercussions

Sisters don't reason to see who's at fault, they start supposing they're right first, then argue. No matter how much their oshi betrays them

>>76966009
Sisters change the meaning of some words depending on their current narrative. Some sisters believe that Sayu wasn't doxxed, for example.

>>76964924
>It was said they were apart of an 18+ streamer lobby, which was streamed
In which Luca and her began to RP as if they were dating. Then went into private worlds together alone. Where they obviously simulated sex
>"You’re saying friends can’t give presents to other friends?"
It's pretty strange to want to give expensive gifts to someone who apparently sexually harassed you. Especially when there's a notable age difference that is acknowledged by the person gifting things.
>He went up to some older girl in VRChat and started trauma dumping. I fail to see how that’s her fault
Her trauma dumping with him and starting to E-fuck each other is her fault. And why would I give a fuck about her playing Minecraft for him? No one knows how much Niji knows about her, what agreements she made with Luca or anything either. I don't care how much work she did or some retarded anonymous message calling him a sexpest. How much shit she did in Niji matters way less than her grooming him.

>>76966051
What is clear about her not giving the full picture? Can you provide specific examples that make you believe the whole doc is a lie?
>>76966081
This is the funniest part.
>beg actual groomdaddy Rob to force an RP between you and a woman you just met
>she goes yeah sure why not what could POSSIBLY go wrong
>1 month later he's jacking off to her without her consent

>>76965895
this c&d shit is just a front to shield his ass when the merge happens.
Otherwise he will be booted out without question.

>>76966009
At some point it became "any interaction between a young-ish person and an older one that makes me uncomfortable," which is a ridiculously broad category

>>76966051
Their relationship was extremely public and obviously consensual. Even if they did have e-sex, erp, sent pictures, masturbated on discord, who the fuck cares? They were consenting adults.

Also basically this >>76966081

>>76965895
They first have to fire the one guy whose job he saved by debuting. That Japanese retard is likely the only reason Luka is "invincible". Keep an eye out for upper management positions opening, because that means that retard got fired finally and Luka thus has nobody to run corporate interference anymore.

>>76966139
You don't need consent to jack off, what the fuck?

>>76964991
What's the point? He's already been exposed and practically ran off the Internet

>>76960197
niji sent a cease and desist to raziel, the behind the scenes chick who did Luca's work for him, including building for him in Minecraft and both writing and signing merch. she also may or may not have groomed him pre-niji: she claims that vr chat records show he was over 18, he says he dindu nuffin, either way he was a creepy little dude who liked jerking off to her voice. so now ndf is malding because even though niji "finally" took legal action against her everyone else sees it as proof that she was truthing instead of lying.

tl;dr: nijisanji inadvertantly vindicated a possible schizo by not shutting the fuck up. again.

>>76966116
> Then went into private worlds together alone. Where they obviously simulated sex
>sisters are acknowledging parts of the doc as truth but twisting it to suit their mental illness
HE was the one who begged her to RP first. HE was the one who jacked off to her. HE was the one who started trauma dumping. HE was the one who broke his contract with Nijisanji and let his GF skinwalk for him.

>>76965948
the coven of BPD sisters deemed it so
she's a groomer and a bipolar whore!

>>76966101
>Child raped
>Doki and Sayu are the most effected

I am having ptsd from reading all these posts in this thread, every nijisanji en fans and haters are mentally ill jesus christ

>>76966269
Half of the story
Baised story teller
We'll see who is right in court

>>76966231
No he was jacking off in front of her randomly in a private lobby despite her not wanting anything to do with that, not jacking off in the privacy of his own room and Xvideo's tabs.

>>76966257
He still retains thousands of viewers and paypiggies, not to mention is the first person to backstab and throw people under the bus and his viewers believe him because he’s a bigger streamer and thus made other people’s careers and they should be thankful, clearly.

>>76966231
and why is that?
think very carefully before your smug reply

All I'm getting from this is that everyone involved with niji, specifically Luca, in some way shape or form is a cunt and should lose their jobs

>>76966316
So you've once again decided to shut down because you can't accept reality.

By the way, where's the proof of him being in high school during any of their interactions in the first place?
>>76966231
He was pulling a virtual "trenchcoat in the park" move.

>>76966316
What do you mean half of the story? There are literal clips of this happening. There is video proof from a live stream and that autistic vrchat wiki. How is that half?

>>76966051
Ah so you'll believe your speculation but not things we have proof for.. because she might be acshually bad?
Her grooming or not grooming Luca has got nothing to do with Luca committing infractions he should have been punished for
Your massive bias is showing sis

>>76966313
First day here at this board time? Buckle up kiddo it's rape ass or be raped hours.

>>76966269
>HE was the one who begged her to RP first.
According to her
>HE was the one who jacked off to her.
According to her. Her own screenshots prove otherwise since no one who just got sexually harassed would say
>" I'm so sorry we were interrupted. Did you get in trouble?"
>HE was the one who broke his contract with Nijisanji and let his GF skinwalk for him.
You say as you are unaware of the agreements made between Niji, Luca and Raziel

>>76966364
Anti filipino anti immigrant racism.

>>76966498
Earlier in this thread you were screaming
>you can't be in highschool at 18
What happened to that?

>>76966316
Is the court in the room with us? They sent her a Cease and desist and she plans to comply
We still have the proof Luca sucks sowwy u can continue living in your alternate reality now :(

can you guys bring this argument to your discord?
you are wasting board space, my indie thread just died

>>76966316
>We'll see who is right in court
What should i do to make this reality, and i want it's to be streamed online

Nijisisters should do a flip since they all come from there already

>>76966435
Agreed. The simple questions are: how did she receive permission to act on behalf of Luca.
If she was a S.O was she under contract privileges.
If she wasn't, why was Luca not punished.

>>76966355
If no one is seeing it, where's the harm?

>>76966420>>76966435
Luca literally can't defend himself because of his position.
I hope you guys are happy attacking a guy who literally cannot fight back and defend himself, not to mention in the likely case it was SA, he has to relive traumatic experiences. So yeah, I would say you guys and the groomer are the bad guys.

>>76966574
>muh indie
better be watching those chat logs then, anon

>>76966574
Who is your oshi?

>>76966553
Never said that. It's highly unlikely he was 18 in highschool though and probably bullshit because of how exactly perfect it'd be for Raziel to not be a pedophile.

>>76966313
>and haters
I'm so happy you are here now sis to get shat on since the death of nyfco.

>>76961399
puritanism was a mistake.

>>76966574
I'm not on discord. Doesn't seem like I'm missing much desu

>>76966652
Pippa Pipkin

>>76966624
Sexual Assault lol. You wish they were anything else but lover sis.

>>76966595
Luca gave her permissions. Even if she was an S.O. an NDA doesn’t cover your household or relations, so his mom wouldn’t be under it for example. She also didn’t sign anything so there is no legal holdings here. Luca isn’t punished because of favoritism. Anycolor can’t afford to lose more of Luxiem. Luca is also a drop out and young so he’s sticking to sucking Riku’s cock because he has nothing else going for him. It sucks but it really is that simple.

>Luca is reading this thread, right now.
Hello, are you gay?

>>76966498
If you wanna write-off everything but the outright confirmed things (skinwalking minecraft, signature, voice pack, etc etc) as completely false... then how can you prove she groomed him? The only things you've twisted into becoming vague citations for that come directly from her.

>>76966711
You do know Indie means independent right?

>>76966624
What the fuck? What in the fucking fuck? They never met up irl. He decided to jerk off to her. How is this SA? Harassment, yes, but ASSAULT? Holy shit go uninstall the internet please. You make actual SA victims look bad!

>>76966763
I wish Astel was gay, he would make a great femboy instead of trying to fuck Scarle.

Let's just agree to disagree. Raziel wasn't poor innocent lass who got manipulated by luca. She changed some events to make it seem that he was coming on to her and she didn't want to.

Luca didn't get groomed by her. He had the hots for her from the get go and she was receptive.

Now what about the rules broken? Skinwalking? Nda breeches? Favouritism?

>>76966786
Yes Pippa Pipkin is a strong and independent girl she is my angel my love.

>>76966622
i see, so unless the matter is PUBLIC then there is no harm done?
so in the irreal case he lied about his age and was about to be 18 while in the ERP session, there is still no fault on the bitch due to his actual situation NOT being PUBLIC?
Thank God you are not his lawyer!

>>76966730
He's a grown ass man not a child. Sisters with their delulu complex getting taken for a ride is hilarious to me.

>>76966858
Yeah, actually. It’s not her fault he lied. But it’s irrelevant because he was 18, proven by multiple sources.

>>76966679
>Never said that.
>proceeds to say that
It's not "highly unlikely". It's literally a 50/50 for Australians. The first year of schooling over there begins at age 5 or 6, and ends at year 12 with kids at age 5+12 and 6+12.

>>76966858
I mean, the extent to which your actions involve someone is highly relevant to whether it's SA

>>76966918
It doesn't matter what his age was.
The second he talks about high school a person who does not have bad motives will say NO, I am not risking it.

>>76966622
But someone did see it. Raziel, the woman whose dick he virtually whipped it out to randomly one day. That's weird no matter how you spin it, you should instead be trying to say it never happened in the first place.

>>76966268
Why does niji just learn to ignore schizos? Is it that hard?

>>76966826
>Raziel wasn't poor innocent lass who got manipulated by luca
I say she was manipulated but I'm talking about him making her do all his job for him.

>>76966858
I'm going to SA you by touching my balls right now.

>>76967033
A senior in high school is usually 18. He joined a 18+ server claiming he was 18, not that he was in high school. What the fuck is your argument other than repeating your already disproven points?

>>76967074
Then Enna would have no fans?

>>76966918
>>76966998
>irreal
mr.bailiff pls...
>>76967094
No ERP past midnight!

>>76962746
So you're saying that if we assume everything she says is a lie and make a bunch of assumptions without any evidence then we can surmise that she's a pedophile groomer? Crazy.

>>76963741
Love for his fellow anons. He knows that other anons crave entertainment, but can’t put the effort in to dig out the treasures themselves. Thus, anon sacrifices himself for our sake. And here you are, complaining about his labor of love like an ungrateful cretin.

>>76967033
>The second he talks about high school
Okay, now wheres this proof of him talking about being in highschool?

>>76967033
Didn't she know his actual age?

>>76967076
It's like when a simp does homework for his crush. Or girlfriend. Quite a pitiable situation.
Glad she's over it now.

>>76966823
>Astel

An 18 year can still be groomed chuds

>>76964383
> What sex?
> Her own admission of phone sex

>>76966624
Sis you're not looking good here go take a breather
You're engaging in hystrionics. He cannot defend himself indeed but we have proof for Raziel's accusations of his infractions as a talent. Nobody cares about what happened between them, it's an entire separate matter to which we don't have proof either way to speak.

The problem is that sisters speculate without proof just to be able to dismiss what Luca did wrong as a talent for Nijisanji. Stop coping and start being reasonable

>>76967033
>The second he talks about high school
When'd that happen?

>>76967147
Ah that's true

>>76967128
>>76967033
Why does anyone give a shit if he's 1 day over 18? If he's ~18 it doesn't make any difference, laws aren't moral prescriptions. You should either still consider him a child and her a groomer or not.

>>76967215
Inflating the concept of grooming to discredit people is the actual chud move

>>76967193
He's young and horny how hard is it to understand what she wanted.

>>76967315
Why do you not give a shit about the fact that there's not
>a
>single
>citation
for your "he was in high school!" claim in the first place?

>>76967433
You're as retarded as that guy if you think I'm that anon or supporting his position.

>>76967215
Yeah, okay, but not really. Emotionally manipulated? Stockholmed? PTSD? Sure. Raziel admitted they were both toxic. They are both at fault. I think Raziel recounted those stories to show their long and fucked up relationship. She also went on to prove how shitty Anycolor is and that is the real focus. Anything saying otherwise is a nijisister trying to deflect.

>>76966781
>then how can you prove she groomed him?
Because the story is coming from her own mouth and her own screenshots which still make her look bad. From her own story, she acknowledges that there's an age difference and she plays defense of her not grooming him throughout the entire document

>>76967521
>age difference = grooming
>still no proof of the high school claim
christ femcels are annoying

>>76967315
At some point you have to draw lines, or else you get a sorites paradox

>>76967521
Sure plenty of it makes her look bad, but none of it proves she groomed someone underage or even with knowledge of him being in highschool. And like others have said, where even is the proof of him being in high school in the first place? I skimmed the doc and the only thing I see was her explicitly saying he was NOT enrolled at the time of their relationship, meaning he either A. dropped out or B. had already graduated.

So where the hell did highschool come from?

>>76967521
Okay, there is still no proof of this grooming. Her showing herself looking bad is kind of proving she didn't groom him, no? Or else she would have tried harder to hide that?

I'm just at the right age range to find millennial's obsession with sex disgusting and zoomer's complete rejection of it retarded. This thread is like a meeting of those minds and everyone comes out stupid.

>>76967521
That's because age gap discourse is one of the most tedious, tendentious topics there is. Everyone tries to avoid setting off that powder keg

>>76967711
I unironically blame Evangelion

>>76966823
>astel
*sigh*

>>76967701
Idk maybe it's someone from Niji trying to defend him with something (lies) Luca told them directly
Or deranged sister so deep in their narrative they forgot the facts

>>76967719
The "age gap" here are people who were primarily both in their 20s. By Raziel's document, they were 18 and 24, who met after the 18 year old turned 18. This isn't weird. It's normal, especially in hobby groups. If we had to be this careful about who we meet and become friends with, no one would be friends ever.

>>76967711
We're at a really awkward point where "sex is horrible and disempowering, except when it's sex work, then it's great" is something a lot of people think. It's weird

>>76967570
Sure. But it sounds like whatever age he was would round to 18. So we're talking about a 6 month margin of error. Individual maturity has a greater margin than that for most people, so it doesn't fucking matter. Because we have these bounds and it's unlikely that his maturity level would drastically change within this time frame we can say for arguments sake 'who gives a fuck?' and move on. Assume he is exactly 18 and use your own moral prerogative from there. Either a roughly 18 year old is usually mature enough to form a romantic relationship with someone older than them or they're not.

>>76967835
My prom didn't let anyone bring over anybody over the age of 21
So yeah, the age gap Does matter

>>76967835
I don't disagree

>>76967901
Did prom just happen for you? I, a female, ran around with a bunch of card game nerds who ranged from the ages of 18 to 32 at the age of 18 (and months away from graduation high school, gasp). We would go out and eat together, roam the town, and play games. Prom is different, you have people as young as 16 there and is a organized school event. So it's a mute point in the real world outside of high school.

>>76967835
The point is we shouldn't believe what that bitch Raziel says about me. She has always been a menhera and has been vindictive ever since luca ghosted her for being too creepy and now is trying to get revenge. That fucking bitch.

>>76968065
Is this some kind of weird larp?

>>76968065
>The point is we shouldn't believe what that bitch Raziel says about me.
> what that bitch Raziel says about me.
>about me.

HUH?

>>76968043
In case you actually don't know it's 'moot point', not 'mute point'.

>>76968065
>about me.
Yeah that makes sense.

>>76968103
It's just the Fianna gambit

>>76967711
You so enlightened anon.

>>76968065
Ok this was funny thank you

>>76967548
Her own document says that Luca would tell her about girls that he'd talk to after high school. She'd buy him expensive shit, he always came to her for advice and orbited around her, she'd get upset that he wouldn't tell her what he was doing. This isn't grooming to you?

>>76968146
It's moo point, as in a point a cow would make
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62necDwQb5E

>>76968146
Thank you, I haven't been grammar nazi'd since 2010. Brings back old memories...

>>76968227
too old to post here, get out grandpa

>>76968109
>>76968151
Sorry I made a typo.

>>76968146
>moot
Who??

>>76967835
This, I was once in a Monhun Tri Longsword mains Skype group back when that game first released and there was people as young as 14 and one dude as old as 30. Knowing people outside of your age range through a specific hobby is pretty normal. Pokemon's probably the best example of this.
>>76967901
Your prom was held over a Skype call?

>>76968226
That sounds a lot like interaction between a 1view chuuba and her viewers.

>>76968065
I refuse to believe this but just in case watch out for Vivi she will bitch slap the glasses off your face.

>>76968257
Respect your elders damnit

>>76968326
Low view GFE are basically grooming their viewers. High view GFE is more like a cult.

>>76968226
>after high school
>after
>a f t e r
You... you realize that means after he GRADUATED highschool right?

>>76968226
>Her own document says that Luca would tell her about girls that he'd talk to after high school.
After high school is the key point, you literally just proved he graduated. I don't think he meant when the bell rang and he came home or else it would be
>girls he talked to while in high school

>She'd buy him expensive shit
The gift values are never stated, and all that was stated is that it was bought with a mutual male friend they had. So she wasn't the sole individual in this.
>he always came to her for advice and orbited around her
How is him orbiting her, her fault? Especially in a game known for males orbiting females? And apparently to the point that he was called out not only by her but by other friends and streamers as well?
>she'd get upset that he wouldn't tell her what he was doing.
Yeah, lying is kind of a shitty thing to do.
>This isn't grooming to you?
Nope, sounds like a cougar hunter at best. Remember when Luca joined Nijisanji and started obsessing over Pomu and liking NSFW Elira art? Then was obessed with Meloco and even calling Kotoko cute on stream when they joined? Man has a type.

A 14 year old my sister was friends with used to be in a yuri Love Live RP discord group. There were like 28 year old men in the group. She turned out fine years later, but it was still wild to me.

>>76968226
The exact sentence is
>I would heavily encourage Luca to go out with his friends IRL
>and even meet with girls he still talked to after highschool
>who were still interested in him
This entire sentence basically proves definitively that she's not talking about him coming home from school on a Tuesday but instead that she's talking about reconnecting with people after graduation.

>>76968444
>Nope, sounds like a cougar hunter at best. Remember when Luca joined Nijisanji and started obsessing over Pomu and liking NSFW Elira art? Then was obessed with Meloco and even calling Kotoko cute on stream when they joined? Man has a type.
Hah, I never noticed that.

>>76968289
Some guy who posted on Something Awful about 20 years ago. I think he started his own website at some point.

>the only claim of him being in highschool was him explicitly not being in highschool
>sister spent hours arguing a sentence she ESL'd through
holy kek

>>76967709
>Her showing herself looking bad is kind of proving she didn't groom him, no?
Which would be the case if the story she gives to try making Luca look as shit as possible didn't subsequently make her look like an obsessive menhera grooming someone teenage jail bait

>>76968710
Oh great, the bots started spitting out sparks and is looping.

>>76965454
What if Luca never graduated from high school?

>>76968710
>obsessive menhera grooming someone teenage jail bait
Ignoring the obvious ESL, he wasn't jail bait by her country's and even less so by his country's standards. Next argument, please!

>>76968512
Holy shit sisters are disingenuous as fuck
Also why nobody still trying to address how the real issues are things Raziel provided proof for? They're still trying to solely disprove her credibility
Luca should be GRADUATED

poor lucubs keep getting cucked lol

>>76968710
Honestly when I read the full document, she actually seemed pretty nice to Luca.
It was more about nijisanji being incompetent and nijisanji making Luca into a corpo brainwashed slave.

>>76968806
They just know they can't win, that's all

>>76968806
Twisting the truth is all these women know, problem is they're really bad at it.

>>76968710
If you look at their relationship after he was in nijisanji, it basically consisted of him getting her to do shit for him. It makes more sense to me that the gifts and offering him a place to live fit into that category than grooming

>>76962053
>the fans of Nijis male talents are fuckin weird.
I must say, seeing the trajectory of NijiMales has given me a lot more respect for professional Japanese hosts. Those guys have to deal with sexually frustrated OLs and desperate femcels in person rather than through a monitor.

>>76968923
Okay but you can also flirt with Matsuri

>>76963741
you act like that anon wasted 4 hours of his life making this when its just a simple crop and paste in paint
anyone can make something like this in like sub 10 mins

>>76968923
Don't give 'em too much respect, because they're typically not dealing with underaged chinese/indo girls but drunk women. Anyone whose drunk is relatively easy to handle if you've pumped CHA enough and are doing it for pay, just smile and nod.

>>76968923
I wonder if that OL who tried to murder the crossdresser from suisei's MV is a common type of fan

remember lucubs, you have to be at least 30 to ride luca's cock. he doesn't have time for little kids in their 20s, he only pines for mature, adult women.

Does anyone have the screencap of fujosisters squeeing over "Luca's" girly handwriting? I can't find it.

>>76969169

>>76969143
>the reason why sisters are screaming hysterically is because they'll never be old enough to be desirable to him
Oh this pleases me greatly.

>>76969204
KEK,the name lucucks has never been more fitting

>>76969204
Honestly this makes me feel for his fans. They just wanted an oshi, man

>>76968512
Not really. He was 17 when he was starting streaming and met Roflgator. It's only the most charitable interpretation that he was actually already graduated and even still, it wouldn't mean he was actually 18. So it's either she was grooming a highschooler who was under 18 or she was grooming someone fresh out of highschool who just turned 18. Doing something after school doesn't mean you graduated. Considering how careful she is trying to seem like not a pedophile, she'd have said that

>>76969143
Yup, because he acts like he can't do anything and wants to be babied with his life handed to him after growing up Filipino.

>>76969293
I'd feel for them if it wasn't Luxiem, the wave with the most retarded fans in Nijisanji EN and probably top 5 in all of Niji.

>>76969204
Thanks anon!.

>>76969204
Sister was saying how "she wrote a signature"
Brah those are LOVE LETTERS
those are all things SHE thought of and wrote, the person they call a groomer, because
LUCA DOESN'T LOVE THEM AND CAN'T BE ASKED TO WRITE FOR HIS FANS HAHAHA

Just send the superchat and buy the merch Lucuck
Keep defending him like he didn't betray you

>>76969354
>He was 17 when he was starting streaming and met Roflgator.
Proof?

>>76969293
They have to wake up and find an oshi that won't treat them like garbage (except for roleplaying) then

>>76968891
>No, you don't understand. The teenager was so charismatic that he made a 25 year old woman swoon for him and convinced her to buy him expensive gifts and a place to stay after engaging in VR chat sex with him
You sure you fags aren't Lucuvs?

>>76969354
>He was 17 when he was starting streaming
That's a lie. He didn't start streaming until 2020, when he would've been 20.
https://twitchtracker.com/javaaaa/statistics

>So it's either she was grooming a highschooler who was under 18 or she was grooming someone fresh out of highschool who just turned 18.
Or both are untrue in the grooming sense. It's very clear when they met he was 18 and fresh out of high school but no one gives a fuck because he's 18 and out of high school.

>Considering how careful she is trying to seem like not a pedophile
No shit sherlock, because of people like you harassing her for years now and flinging baseless accusations.

>>76969354
>he was 17 when he joined an 18+ RP server owned by roflgator
>somehow this is Raziel's fault
???????????????????????????????????

>>76969481
This feels like watching those women that can't get out of shitty relationships justifying why the guy hit them

>>76969204
Yeah the whole groomer shit is just shills trying to misdirect the conversation from the fact he broke contracts, cucks his fans, never gets punished for breaking contracts and is clearly a case of favoritism within the company.

Other niji talents got terminated for way less.

>>76969540
Wow, I didn't expect to actually see proof that he did not in fact stream when he met roflgator. Kind of a big gap in years for sist-- I mean, anon to mess up.

Sisters are so funny

>>76959808
Haha lma

>>76969540
>He didn't start streaming until 2020, when he would've been 20
Raziel literally said he met him through Roflgator when he was 18 because of a streamer VR chat world
>It's very clear when they met he was 18
Only person's word are herself and her friends. Even if he was fresh out of highschool, it's still grooming . Very questionable that he was exactly 18 when they met according to her
>because of people like you harassing her for year
Not a single person gave a shit about her before this year.

>>76969774
>Raziel literally said he met him through Roflgator when he was 18 because of a streamer VR chat world
That doesn't mean he was streaming, and anon (rest his soul for directly linking it) proved that you don't have to be a streamer to get into the RP group. How are you this retarded?
>Even if he was fresh out of highschool, it's still grooming .
Space before the punctuation is pretty clear proof you're ESL, but ignoring that... actually no I'm not ignoring that, you're a faggot! Ahaha!
But more seriously there's a difference between "meeting someone in a group of adults who just turned into one by chance" versus "waiting outside the metaphorical school gates on Graduation day".

>>76959713
I bet they are all minors

>>76959850
/vt/ would be empty then

>>76969774
Gator was 28 at the time. Why is his server not 28+? Is he a groomer?

>>76969774
>Raziel literally said he met him through Roflgator when he was 18 because of a streamer VR chat world
Yes, you stated HE started streaming. He did not. He met roflgator, the streamer in question, and started hanging around him. Raziel then met roflgator and also started joining roflgator's 18+ lobbies that roflgator streamed.
>Only person's word are herself and her friends. Even if he was fresh out of highschool, it's still grooming . Very questionable that he was exactly 18 when they met according to her
The fact that he publicly had his birthday up on his twitter and celebrated it with multiple people online. Did Luca lie about this too? Why would multiple friends, Raziel, and a wiki lie about that unless Luca himself lied about it?
>Not a single person gave a shit about her before this year.
This is false and you know it. That one anon board constantly called her a groomer since he debuted, not to mention the whole ringfit thing is when she started to get harassed. That was over 3 years ago now.

>>76969774
Yeah yeah whatever
Can you stop ignoring the point? Tell us how you feel that Luca didn't care enough to write those letters himself
You gooned with words Raziel wrote, Luca doesn't love you
Why do you care about defending him he only likes your money

>A freshman in college dating a senior is grooming
I am never going to understand Americans. I don't think I really will.

>>76970176
>americans
Buddy if there's one thing I can tell you the only thing coursing through that womans veins are the trash from her last meal, not the butter cheap booze and gunpowder in every Amerilards.

>>76969907
>That doesn't mean he was streaming
That literally doesn't matter. The point is that he was 17 when Roflgator got him to do his girl voice to trick people. It's irrelevant when he started streaming, it is relevant when he met Roflgator
>But more seriously there's a difference between "meeting someone in a group of adults who just turned into one by chance" versus "waiting outside the metaphorical school gates on Graduation day
Even supposing he is 18 AND graduated, he still talks about highschool, met your friend when he was 17 and just got out of highschool. She knew all about him within the first week or two of knowing him, started RP dating him and then they e-fucked. Meanwhile she's self aware of the age gap between them

holy sisters stirring shit here about groomer this and high schooler that when that's not even the main issue why their kamioshi and daddy riku are taking an L with the C&D. kek.

>>76970071
Wait so Raziel joined the roflgator server AFTER Luca did? Doesn't that completely undermine the sisters argument of her being a cribsnatcher?

>>76970258
you have to remember that these are nijisanji viewers. the substance of the issues isn't relevant or significant to them. they operate strictly on the notion that whoever trashes and defames the hardest wins.

>>76970250
>That literally doesn't matter.
Then why'd you lie about it? And can you provide citations on him being 17 at the time of meeting Roflgator? We've been asking basically this entire thread and you've ignored it for hundreds of posts now.

>>76970258
And they even destroyed their grooming card just minutes ago, now it's all just sad. Still funny tho

>>76970258
This, while it's funny to see sisters get completely and utterly trashed at their own game... it's even funnier to think about how many of them schlicked to some womans handwriting.

>>76970280
From archive digging and the wiki, it states that Luca did join the lobby BEFORE Raziel did.
https://vrchat-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Java
>[Luca] met Roflgator on September 27th when he was doing public improv RP visiting various Great Pug's as Billy McGuinness.

https://vrchat-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Raziel
>She knew Roflgator from before VRChat but met randomly in-game in VRChat in a public Void Club when she portrayed Zanyatta in November 2018. After this she quickly became a regular participating in his Bricktown RP lobbies.

>>76970250
This is one of the dumbest points I've ever seen in my life.
>She knew all about him within the first week or two of knowing him
Not her fault.
>started RP dating him
He asked, see above wiki links.
>and then they e-fucked.
Only evidence of this is him jerking off to her, but even then still two consenting adults.
>she's self aware of the age gap
The age gape is small and nothing to go crazy about since they met when 18 and 24. That isn't a pedophile, that's two young adults.

>>76970250
>it doesn't matter that i got caught lying repeatedly
>now check these other lies i made up

>>76970362
>Then why'd you lie about it?
There is literally no difference in being a streamer and being in streams in this situation.
>And can you provide citations on him being 17 at the time of meeting Roflgator?
Go look at any video on Roflgator

>>76970258
It's the usual niji playbook
>Niji stocks are in free fall
>BUT WHAT ABOUT HOLOLIVE
>Mint, Doki and Matara are friends
>BUT WHAT ABOUT SAYU
>Luca is a sexpest
>BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND

>>76970418
They probably held it in their hands and sniffed it like it was some pantsu.

>>76959713
>>76966268
lmao my fucking sides

>>76970507
>Only evidence of this is him jerking off to her, but even then still two consenting adults.
Even that's being too kind, because to me it sounds like he was pressuring her and she wanted nothing to do with it. And women know far more about that kind of thing than us and usually side against the guy doing it, wonder why this sister your're replying to is defending him instead?

>>76970539
>Go look at any video on Roflgator
So you're saying in any video of Roflgators, in this context with Java, from 2018 to 2020 will have him saying
>I AM 17 YEARS OLD

>>76970507
Fucking hell, sisters really are retarded. I can't read this as anything else than Luca being a sexpest and finding the newest addition to the group to latch onto.

>>76970507
>She knew Roflgator from before VRChat but met randomly in-game in VRChat in a public Void Club when she portrayed Zanyatta in November 2018. After this she quickly became a regular participating in his Bricktown RP lobbies.
In your own attempt at evidence, you proved she knew Luca before December 2018 when she said she met him, brother. Get a grip
>Not her fault
Her reciprocating is
>He asked
So?
>Only evidence of this is him jerking off to her
Her own screenshot proves the opposite
>The age gape is small and nothing to go crazy about
>Gape
She herself acknowledged the gap was big and that she'd give Luca advice and gifts as she was notably older than him

>>76970839
Idk if it was you but is reciprocating someone who jacked off to you sexual assault?
Also if they started anything while he was 18 it's safe, grooming goes out of the window if you admit he started it and she reciprocated, because that's not what grooming is

>>76970507
>The age gape is small and nothing to go crazy about since they met when 18 and 24
Hold on, that's it? That's the fucking age gap? That's NOTHING

>>76970839
ESL... that says she knew Roflgator before joining the group...
Unless you're saying the second she joined the group they met in which case you REALLY do not understand how big that group is or what Luca's role in it specifically was.

>>76971018
Right? Sisters made it look like Raziel was as old as his mother or some shit like that

>>76970839
>In your own attempt at evidence, you proved she knew Luca before December 2018 when she said she met him, brother. Get a grip
Yeah, his birthday is in November, not December. Again, this was public information provided by him to Twitter and on his stream.
>Her reciprocating is
She didn't start it though and it's pretty normal for friends to share life experiences, especially if they are traumatic to emphasize with said friend.
>So?
Again, he started it, in public. And you wanted her to say "ew no" when she possibly couldn't predict how it was going to go?
>She herself acknowledged the gap was big and that she'd give Luca advice and gifts as she was notably older than him
Proof of her admitting the age gap is large? We know she gave him gifts and advice, as friends do.

>>76970839
>>He asked
>So?
Holy shit. Astrophysicists should study your brain, it's clearly a miniature black hole.

>>76970839
My parents have a 6 year she gap, there was nothing the least bit problematic about their relationship

>>76971203
I'm so sorry...
You're officially a rape baby
I'm sorry you had to find out this way

>>76971018
Women be like (they will still flirt with dilfs)

>>76971018
For real, this entire time I assumed she was in her 30s. I think out of my entire extended family there's only one marriage where the gap isn't at least 4 years big, and ironically I think they're the ones who met in school.

>>76970999
>reciprocating someone who jacked off to you sexual assault?
No but there's literally no reason to believe she didn't start it past her own word which is worth shit because her own screenshots tear up her sexual assault claim. Also if a child asks to be fucked, you're still a pedophile for fucking the child. Why would the groomed asking for sex not be a successful groom? We don't even know who actually initiated the e-dating

>>76971374
>Also if a child asks to be fucked, you're still a pedophile for fucking the child.
He literally was not a child when they met.

>>76971330
>this entire time I assumed she was in her 30s
Me too. I guess this proves once again these are zoomers who think 27 is a granny

>>76971374
> Also if a child asks to be fucked
Jesus christ, he was at least 18yo

>>76971374
>We don't even know who actually initiated the e-dating
Except she stated they never dated. Why would she lie about that?

>>76971374
You heard it here first lads, if you're an 18 year old and go to a coffee shop and hit up the cute 24 year old barista behind the counter getting a successful date, she's a groomer and as bad as a kiddy diddler!

You'd think you'd be able to hear yourself think what with how fucking empty your brain is.

>>76971374
>We don't even know who actually initiated the e-dating
We literally do know, it was Luca who asked to be paired with Raziel (called Abbey) in that weird VRchat RP shit according to the pages >>76970507 linked
Also calling someone who gets into a relationship with an 18 year old they just met a pedophile is genuinely insane. Are people who're fresh adults not allowed to have relationships?

>>76971455
Proof? Because this faggot is saying he celebrated his 18th birthday on stream but apparently he didn't start streaming until he was 20

>>76971330
She just turned 30 this year and they started talking in 2018 for what it's worth.

>>76971516
If the genders were reversed and it was your chuuba he was hitting on you would be screaming "sexpest !!"