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back when vtubers had soul and were mostly indie, until huge corperations slowly swallowed everyone.

back when vtubers would make high effort skits or anime and episode series instead of low effort rant about your period or person troubles for 3 hours while reading superchat.

>> No.7679416

>>7679379
Gura didn't exist back then so who cares

>> No.7679443

>>7679416
hololive and nijisanji really don't have any soul.

cope newfag

>> No.7679471

Can't miss what I don't know, and I'm happy enough with how things are. My favorite content are the concerts, and they keep getting better.

>> No.7679520

>>7679471
interesting viewpoint, I for one get Saudade and nostalgia for those times

>> No.7679551

>>7679379
Those skits were the most boring shit, Aifag

>> No.7679621

Most of them are irrelevant now. Just look at the four heavenly kings.
How do YOU cope instead, anon?

>> No.7679688

>>7679379
Only Pekora matters to me

>> No.7680043

>Back in my day, the old stuff is better.
>Can't name a specific episode. Just that they had skits and stuff.
Hey, I watched Virtual-san is Watching but you sound like a hipster like the average niji-fan. Different doesn't always mean better.

>> No.7680046

Oh, OP is actually replying instead of completely baiting.
It sucks but at least with the popularity of vtubing getting bigger there's lots of new indie music popping up all over the place to discover.

>> No.7680163

>>7679551
>Content designed and thought out with a plan to be entertaining
or
>Literally low effort chatting like every twitch thot streamer ever

And you pick the latter...

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>>7679379
The only thing that I regret is not knowing Suisei at the time and being one of her original cometomos.

>> No.7680591

>>7679520
I think I get where you're coming from, though. I personally miss the time when people used to read gaming articles and shit like that. Videos being the main method of consumption of reviews and the like just increase the workload by a shitton with not enough benefit. It filters writers based on free time and (lack of) need for income to pay their bills instead of what they have to say. The time to complete the games themselves is already a huge barrier compared to how long most games take compared to movies or anime, and then you have to capture and edit shit, which is also a bigger pain in the ass than in other media because missing something can mean as far as playing through half the game again, instead of rewinding and capturing again, in a process that takes about 15 seconds.
Luckily enough, I got into this hobby after the so called golden period, so I'm just having fun, instead of lamenting that only garbage has a chance to thrive. Towa's birthday concert was phenomenal.

>> No.7680681

>>7680163
You're down playing the latter a lot. To be honest you should at least give them a chance before deducting them as your average Twitch thot

>> No.7680690

Son, I hate to say this to you but...

Back then vTuber is much more corporate than nowaday

>> No.7680888

>>7679379
Ai suffered one of the worst corporate disasters of them all, even if this wasn't obvious bait you'd still be deluded.

>> No.7680947

>>7679443
How do they not have any soul ?

>> No.7681186

>>7680888
you retarded newfags think ai was the only vtuber before holoshit? lol.
btw ai is one of those corporate whores im talking about.

>> No.7681518

>>7681186
>Corporations weren't a problem back then
>Even though corporations were the biggest problem back then
Moron. Also I was in the /a/ thread with the one anon who jerked off with FaceRig, don't talk to me about newfags you EOP faggot.

>> No.7681605

>>7679379
who?

>> No.7681886

>>7681518
>Also I was in the /a/ thread with the one anon who jerked off with FaceRig,

lol newfag cope, everyone and their mother knows about that thread. any 12 year old can claim to been a poster their.
hell I can say I was raiding irl as anonymous during chanology

>> No.7681957

>>7679379
By not being a incel and having sex

>> No.7681978

>>7681957
cope

>> No.7682035

>>7681886
>No argument
Also I didn't ask for your opinion on whether you believe me or not. I could cite the more obscure shit like the Nanaya RPer but I know you won't know what that is because you're being a disengenous faggot. Fuck you and your shit bait thread.

>> No.7682094

>>7681518
That thread was around the beginning of vtubing? Vtubing is less old than I thought

>> No.7682120

>>7679379
I didn't know I missed that much. Other than Ai, Hinata, Moemi and Yoemi I wasn't that into vtubers. I sort of stopped watching then I got into it back in june of 2020

>> No.7682191

>>7682094
It was 2015, before Ai and the year after Eilene.

>> No.7682686

the new style of vtubing is way too transparent in the fact that it only exists to make money. atleast in the script days it was subtle. Now you vtubers literally shilling taco bell and superchat baiting

>> No.7682965

The seethe from that taco bell will literally never go away, huh

>> No.7686540

>>7679379
The virus killed all daily uploaders and all that's left must necessarily stream from home.

>> No.7687818

>>7679379
how do you cope with thinking everyone needs to cope with the passage of time instead of just living their lives?
do you seethe over the fact that for good or ill, prerecorded vtuber content fell out of favor and got replaced with predominantly live-generated content?
then it's probably time to dilate.

>> No.7688176

>back when vtubers had soul and were mostly indie
I'll take shit that never happened for $400, Alex.

>> No.7688366

>>7679379
>no omegasis.
how old is this supposed to be? they were active top of 2018

>> No.7688586

It was barely any different from today. You’re just trying to gain some sense of superiority just because you watched it before someone else did.
I swear you make this exact same thread with the same picture at least twice a week just so you can get the dopamine rush of being a bigger weeb than someone else. Achieve something meaningful in your life

>> No.7688688

>>7679379
did you completely forgot how Ai died?

>> No.7688779

>>7688366
the guy who makes these threads hates them

>> No.7688857

>>7679379
OP, I was there. Unless you were JOP, it sucked ass. Simple as.

>> No.7688974

"Soul" has to be one if the gayest words ever, it even almost sounds like soi.

>> No.7689387

>wants only editted clips
>implying "high effort" skits were a thing of the past

Boy do I have a thing to sell you on. Did you know that Nijisanji has over 100 vtubers across the globe? They have all sorts of content to fill your needs. Want to watch gaming streams? We have that. How about some random skits? We have that too. Prefer ASMR contents to raise your dopamine level and blow your load? Hoho you betcha. Want none of that but prefer vtubers that would literally sing their hearts and shit out to fill your soul? We got that "cover"ed. smd Hololive Want a highly produced content like a live3D concert? We got your back. Want to be able to talk with them directly? Now you can. You know what's the best part out of all of this? You can watch these contents for free!*

Come and join ninisanni today. We cater to Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, and English-speaking audience. We don't discriminate too. We have male streamers, female streamers, streaming dogs, a gorilla, and a cute little devil-thing. Have we also mention that our content is LGBT friendly? If you fall in any of these odd segregated categories, then you're in luck because we have asexuals, bisexuals, lesbians, gays, transpeople, mentally challenged individuals, gender fluid, gender static, and the list goes on.

Nijisanji is a technological and innovative company providing (you) with the best forms of entertainments we can provide. We sincerely hope that you look into us today and join the 2434 family. Thank you and see you on Pomu's next stream.

*Disclaimer: certain streams are locked behind membership paywalls. Be sure to advise your parents about this before considering paying their money for exclusive contents.

>> No.7693650

>>7679379
To be fair the golden age of vtubing started with Nijisanji Gamers, that's when things started to be interesting, the "old age of vtubing" was just a bunch of no names and a few big ones with a big corporation behind them. Mito changed vtubing and Nijisanji Gamers was the cornerstone of the golden era that lasted till the Aloe graduation.
If Aloe's bullshit never happened we could had a Nijisanji/Hololive domination with collabs between them and without Nijisanji becoming manjisanji, what a pity

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>>7689387
>>wants only editted clips
> >implying "high effort" skits were a thing of the past
> Boy do I have a thing to sell you on. Did you know that Nijisanji has over 100 vtubers across the globe? They have all sorts of content to fill your needs. Want to watch gaming streams? We have that. How about some random skits? We have that too. Prefer ASMR contents to raise your dopamine level and blow your load? Hoho you betcha. Want none of that but prefer vtubers that would literally sing their hearts and shit out to fill your soul? We got that "cover"ed. smd Hololive Want a highly produced content like a live3D concert? We got your back. Want to be able to talk with them directly? Now you can. You know what's the best part out of all of this? You can watch these contents for free!*
> Come and join ninisanni today. We cater to Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, and English-speaking audience. We don't discriminate too. We have male streamers, female streamers, streaming dogs, a gorilla, and a cute little devil-thing. Have we also mention that our content is LGBT friendly? If you fall in any of these odd segregated categories, then you're in luck because we have asexuals, bisexuals, lesbians, gays, transpeople, mentally challenged individuals, gender fluid, gender static, and the list goes on.
> Nijisanji is a technological and innovative company providing (you) with the best forms of entertainments we can provide. We sincerely hope that you look into us today and join the 2434 family. Thank you and see you on Pomu's next stream.
> *Disclaimer: certain streams are locked behind membership paywalls. Be sure to advise your parents about this before considering paying their money for exclusive contents.

>> No.7693727

>>7679379
Do you rub yourself every night knowing you watched obscure anime women in 2017?

>> No.7695253

>>7680163
The overproduction of that stuff gets to me. Streams are more natural. Like them better.

>> No.7695268

>>7679379
translate it weeb

>> No.7695315

>>7679379
I see where you're coming from anon.....industrialization strikes again....though, it's about time people like you crawled out into the light preaching about the good old days.

The little corner you once had to yourself indeed has become completely saturated from the huge wash of masses trying to seize what's left of the popularized trend from the rookie startup companies to watered down mainstream agency production. Heck there's even a flood of indies all running amuck with no clue what they're doing. But like others have probably told you, there's a point where you're just some NEET patting himself on the back for being in this niche corner longer than the others. People can't miss what they never knew and whining about it in some thread won't make some holofag or nijifag suddenly appreciate it, (>>7687818 and >>7693727 out line that pretty well)

>back when vtubers had soul and were mostly indie
>back when vtubers would make high effort skits or anime and episode series instead of low effort rant about your period or person troubles for 3 hours while reading superchat

at this point you just need to know where to look or get with today's time. There's plenty of good modern content whether it'd be indie or not, crying about it here won't make it resurface suddenly

>> No.7695330

>>7679379
>Pre-recorded videos
>Soul
Choose one.

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>>7693673

>> No.7695358

>>7695315
I'm 70% sure OP is the "weekly oldfag vtubers" guy realizing he never gets replies on his threads and resorts to bait.
Obviously it didn't work for him because not many on this board watched those vtubers (me included). I've even seen some Peanuts kun discussion recently, I think some people are feeling nostalgic or are trying to find people to talk to about these chuubas.
Just chose the wrong place because this is a majority EOP board.

>> No.7695425

>>7695358
>at this point you just need to know where to look or get with today's time. There's plenty of good modern content whether it'd be indie or not, crying/baiting about it here won't make it resurface suddenly

looks like anon will only need to read this then

>> No.7700510

incel thread

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>anti hololive thread
>OP is schizophrenic and retarded
every time

>> No.7702026

>>7693650
what is this nonsense? Aloe was a nobody and will continue to be nobody. The only people care about her are EOP saviorfags who are new to hololive and thinks she is somehow actually important.

>> No.7702193

>>7702026
You're talking to a manjisanji schizo who has too much estrogen in his brain.

>> No.7702422

>>7702193
Not likely,I have yet to see a nijifan care about Aloe other than some Nikkorogashiya which is extremely rare in this board since 90% of this board are newfags who get into Vtuber only after 2020.
Is this some deltafag's new trick?

>> No.7702831

>>7702026
Aloe didn't do anything, it's just that a lot of Hololive fans believe that Nijisanji fans were the ones that doxxed Aloe and made her graduate when it was the Hololive japanese fans. That caused the stupid Hololive vs Nijisanji war that you live on right now, before that it wasn't that bad to admit that you like both

>> No.7702989

>>7702422
Manjisanji =/= Nijifag
Manjisanji fags (misusing the term まんさんじ) think that Anycolor pushes males to the top and tramples women. But on this board they don't know the term means pandering to fujos, and instead anons use it to mean Anycolor hates women. So basically, a feminist.

>> No.7702999

>>7702831
Semi agree but she did things of course, the only thing involves nijisanji here is when she said Vtuber are company slaves and claims Chitose retired because nijisanji the company leaked her face which clearly isn't true at all.
And some oldfag Chitose/Rei Shirose fan i personally know are very mad about it so i can guarantee Aloe pissed a lot of people not just holoJP idol-fags.

>> No.7703060

>>7702989
I know まんさん and it was the nijifag self-deprecating on 5ch. Well it's good to know some words have different meaning here

>> No.7703161

>>7702999
Yeah but they are not the main reason of her quitting, the "it was Nijisanji's fault" was a last summer falseflag that the new Hololive EOP fans swallowed and now the new Nijisanji EOP fans antagonize them and all of this is what leads to the cancerous state of /vt/

>> No.7703294

>>7703161
Definitely agree and somehow understandable. Thank you for the explanation.

>> No.7703332

>>7679416
Based

>> No.7703349

>>7700510
The difference between you and incels is that one will die alone, unloved, and irrelevant, and the other is incels.

>> No.7703353

>>7703294
It's good to have a reasonable conversation in here for once

>> No.7703381

>>7679379
Hololive was a mistake

>> No.7703822

>>7679379
They cope by shitting up the current times of this dying medium and further help driving it off a cliff with shit like so>>7679416

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I miss her

>> No.7704138

>>7703964
You may want to look up aika_1003_

>> No.7704189

>>7704138
i followed her, some of my kohitsuji friends too.
But i still can't tell if she is the one or not.
The singing is quite close but she sounds completely different when she talks.

>> No.7704369

>>7704189
Oh, there's no doubt at all in my mind. Everyone was always talking about how dramatic the gap between her talking voice and her singing one was anyway. That languid nasal tone she used to have as the angel was something she put on for the character.

By the way this one is old and long abandoned but I'd bet nico_voice_v was her too.

>> No.7704457

>>7680690
It is more corporate now than it is back then. At least the corps only provide the tech and the talent usually decides the content. This was noticeable on Kizuna's heydey. But then they got big and the corpo wanted more control and here we are.

>> No.7704520

>>7679379
So OP is pretty much saying that VTubing should go back to early 2010s Pewdiepie style content?

Fuck no

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>>7689387
Based. Now and forever. Amen.

>> No.7704566

>>7695253
The absolute state of underaged zoomers.
>>>/twitch/

>> No.7704647

>>7704520
I'd rather take that than this parasocial superchat baiting GFE shit.

>> No.7704704

>>7704647
You are watching wrong chuubas

>> No.7704789

>>7704704
Care to give a brother a recommend? Before you reply though, no HoloEN. That's what I meant by that post.

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>>7679379
I literally don't care. My oshi exist right now and that's all that matters.

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You get to be here when Pomu comes back and that's all that matters.

>> No.7709967

>>7704520
much like the entertainment world rn is dominated by corpo (t series, cocomelon, talent agencies, sony, gaming), vtubers are dominated by corpo interests. true then (game club project, kizuna VAs) still true now (holo, niji)

>> No.7710283

>>7707963
Based

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>>7679379
I fucking miss mid 2020 like you wouldn’t believe it bros.. I’m happy that the girls are more successful now but it was a much more simpler times back then.

>> No.7713050

>>7680043
>you sound like a hipster like the average niji-fan
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
newfag thinks nijisanji is hipster...
these faggots are the reason why most vtubers are boring sacks of shits, also the only reason why half of you newfags even watch holoshit is due to clipping channels if they all get bored and stop, hololive is gonna go to the shitter.

>> No.7713070

>>7688366
i wonder what happened to the vtuber fighting game they made

>> No.7713102

>>7688586
judging from the amount of (you)s
i can tell im not the one seething about this.
every time its a bunch of newfags coping and seething.

>> No.7713127

>>7713050
>>7713102
Tell me who you watched. Kizuna Ai right?

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>>7695268
heres a dumbed down version

>> No.7713274

>>7713130
why is akkun here twice

>> No.7714496

>>7679379
I'm just glad I got into vtuber before 2020 and was able to experience holos and niji collabing instead of this tiresome tribal shit

>> No.7714549

>>7714496
they still collab

>> No.7714644

>>7679379
No anon I dont care about irrelevant chubbas making skits, I'd rather listen to my oshis menhera problems

>> No.7714751

>>7682686
>I'm not as dumb now as I was in 2017 and it makes it harder to enjoy my hobbies

>> No.7714872

>>7714549
barely.
just look at the number of collabs before and after Coco's yab. It doesn't only go for Nijis, but also bilibili-related indies like Mea

>> No.7715398

>>7679379
>golden age of vtubers
>image includes males interacting with (You)r oshi
Imagine being a cuck

>> No.7718315

>>7688779
what shit taste. then again, they are the opposite of waifus.

>> No.7721789

yeah i wish i watched pekora earlier

>> No.7725103

it's not that vtubers have gotten worse, you're just depressed and drained because you spent your past year watching vtuber clips for 12 hours straight then sleeping for 12 hours

>> No.7725530

>>7715398

imagine being such a faggot, that just having a guy in your vision instantly sends them to a 5 star hotel in your head rent free

>> No.7725590

>>7713127

lots of indies you newfags wouldn't even know,
but mainly Tenmakinin, games club project, and the kaiji knockoff dude, also the pink haired autist until eliene got her banned. and kimino miya for the english side,
shes retiring in september btw. but im sure pretty much no one knows who she is anyhow,

she was literally the first bilingual vtuber who is fully fluent in both languages while being a native, which is almost never. anyhow her videos were extremely high effort compared to aifag's low effort shit posts. also omega sisters but only due to the vtuber fighting game they made

>> No.7725604

>>7714496
you remember NASS?
newfags wouldn't know but it was a group with members from both hololive and nijisanji

>> No.7725627

>>7715398
retard eop, ether learn to fucking read japanese or fuck off and stop pretending you know what the lines connecting different vtubers mean.

>> No.7725690

>>7688779
>guy who makes these hate them
why are you putting words in my fucking mouth?

READ THE FUCKING DATE

2018
2.26
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_Sisters
>YouTube: 2018/03/05

OMEGA SISTERS DEBUTED A MONTH AFTER DUMBASS THIS CHART RETARD

>> No.7725710

>>7725103
clips are for troglodytes, i don't touch any live stream content.

>> No.7725766

>>7695358
i hope this board gets sent to 4chan, instead of 4channel.

this board is worse than /b/ at times

>> No.7725821

>>7701887
>niggersanji false flaging.

nice bait troon
niggersanji and kizunai zhang are even more souless than holoshit, which only became souless after gen three, and the whore rabbit is the biggest corperate shill in the history of online shills, she makes pokemane look tame,
also she openly brags about being listed as top 5 streamers along side valkrae and pokemane and considers herself one of them, so ironicly you retards posting pekora thinking she's based has me laughing,

also her roommate literally fucked 5 guys

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>>7703964
FUCK HER SHITTY ASS FATHER HOLY SHIT IF THIS LOCKDOWN IS OVER I WILL TRACK THAT SHITHEAD DOWN AND DISMEMBER HIM

>> No.7728622

>>7725889
fuck man

>> No.7728712

>>7679379
Your so-called "golden age" failed Ai, PPH, and Nobuhime. I want none of that shit. We currently have a renaissance.

>> No.7728761

i dont get how anyone can call current vtubing a rennaisance when tech and content has been stagnant for over 3 years now

>> No.7728781

>>7728761
But Augmented Reality

>> No.7728838

>>7728761
The new tech has given rise to the first vtubers, but the current renaissance is largely due to the meteoric rise of new personalities and its infectious influence outside Japan. Sometimes I think it's a bad thing that it's getting more popular.

>> No.7728850

Lotta corpses there. Where did it all go so wrong?

>> No.7728860

>>7679416
fpbp

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