/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

so heckin wholesome

Sayu the whore btfo yet again
https://streamable.com/5o4r96
https://streamable.com/5o4r96
https://streamable.com/5o4r96

Sisters, our narratives keep falling apart...

>>76842187
Doki and her crew are basically the new Niji
It's like her own corpo.

I will continue to watch neither of them

They're just hate-following eachother

>>76842187
Matara is best friends with Enna and Millie, so that means they are innocent.

>>76842319
>doesn't watch streams

>>76842319
>best friends
she's forced to act like friends because they're gen mates retard

>>76842306 (Me)
>hatefucking*

>>76842187
NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOO THIS ISN'T HAPPENING.... WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>76842319
She said her only remaining friend there is Rosemi. It's over.

>>76842319
>Matara is best friends with Enna and Millie
Does she know?

>>76842319
>he doesn't know

>>76842439
proof?

>>76842319
>i'm doin' my own thing
>i felt like i was being a bit of a lone wolf in the past
>and now i'm a lone wolf somewhere else
>and just leave me be
>i'm doing my best
>I'm learning how to get over a lot of stuff that happened
>
>i've also had to set boundaries with people lately
>where people want to talk to me about "hollywood" [nijisanji]
>and i have to be like "hey, i don't wanna hear about it"
>i do not want to hear about it
>i do not
>i'm good
>i do not work there anymore
>i think at some point when you just get out of a work environment it's not to be like
>"omg the coffee girl said whaaaat?"
>"oh no way, no way, what did the lunch lady say? ugh!"
>but then after you're like "i dont wanna know"
>it's not that you don't care, it's...
>have you ever been a kid, and you go to school
>and when you graduate you're telling your parents you're going to be bff
>and you parents are like "suuuuuuuure"
>
>but i knew
>and i even told a lot of people
>"if you wanna keep in touch feel free"
>"but i'm gonna be busy, you're going to be busy, we don't have that much in common"
>i did tell a few people
>it's not that deep
>sometimes you are friends with people just because you work together
>sometimes the only thing that binds you together is the closeness and proximity and complaining about the same stuff
>and maybe being bound by the same rules
>but i knew that and i feel like i communicated that very clearly to a lot of people
>i'm very happy
>and who knows, maybe one day in the future our paths will cross once again
>
>but at the moment i'd say i have pretty much one close friend
>and it's my rosy friend
>it's pretty much the only person that i still consistently check up with and text with and talk about stuff with
>and that's because this is somebody that transcended the work friendship
>this was something that transcended only talking about work
>this was somebody i'm frien- (abruptly stops) y'know
>but for other stuff, no hard feelings
>i don't really wanna be brought up, and i don't really wanna be talked about, and... included?
>i don't.

>>76842732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggANWilnRKU

Why they gotta keep twisting the knife

So /vt/ really are women.

>>76842187
And that deserves its own thread because?

>>76842187
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SISTEEEEEEEEEEEEEERSSS

>>76843039
End my suffering, I can only ever frequent one thread and I’m pretty sure they even slip in there, too. Fucking cootie machines...

Sayubros..... It's actually over.

>>76842877
God is saving her for the Kotoka redemption arc. Kotoka will graduate, be immediately accepted with the ex-Nijis and use her influence to bring Sayu into the fold.

>>76843276
Doki is like Sayu's energy vampire

>>76842187
Why now? Were her and Mint scared of Doki before?

>The Decapitation Masturbation stream will finally happen

>>76843080
So true sister, we need 20 Sayu/Kronii/Gura bait threads instead

>>76843385
I look forward to the kino on the screen

How much does nijien regret burning the bridge with an indie basically everyone likes?

>>76842235
Sayuschizo, get off 4chan and go get some dick. This is an embarrassing level of rent-free

>>76843370
I'd say they put a collab on calendar.
We shall see in a week or two.

>>76842187
>>76842760
Oh no. My rrats... the value.. it's tanking. The rratconnect was supposed to tie everything together but like that it's all gone. What rrat am I supposed to buy now?

Cool. I never understood why people shat on her. She's got a few rough edges, but she never struck me as duplicitous or two faced.

>>76843276
>>76843334
I swear to fuck if your oshi says a SINGLE bad thing about Doki, I will actually anti her, and i'm not even a dragoon. Fucking expedite saving her already, motherfuckers. You're dragging your goddamn feet.

>>76843420
Regret? Are they capable of such retrospect?

>>76842877
>Leak information that's told to you in confidence to push your own agenda
>Associate with mainly grifters and dramawhores
>Wonder why no one wants to touch you with a 10 foot pole.

>>76843370
Realistically, they were waiting for the heat from Nijisanji and Elira's clique's smear campaign against Doki to die down enough before pubically reconnecting.

>>76843420
Didn't Niji also cuck Elira out of collabing with that small indie friend of hers?

>>76843420

>>76842319
Here to remind people once again that Ethyria had a side discord with everyone except Nina.

>>76843560
Vivi deserves so much better

>>76843584
Lol no she doesn't

>>76843370
Mint explained it in her latest stream (the stanley parable) that the reason why their interaction is only recent and not earlier was because Mint didn't want to make Doki uncomfortable (referring to the whole niji stuff) but she misses Doki so much, so she approached her and now they're back to talking until the early hours

Matara leeching again, but Doki finding more success will hand another L to the sisters, so I guess it isn't all bad

>>76843689
stop being retarded, was mint leeching off doki when they were both commentating during the event?

>>76843538
Not exactly. Mint said on stream that she was a bit scared to reach out to Doki for her own reasons and because she's introverted. Doki said on stream that in this new life she seeks out new friends and new collab partners and reconnecting with old (pre-Niji) ones, but still accepted Mint with open arms upon their first contact in months.
My rrat is that Mint was afraid that Doki would associate her with the trauma she endured in Nijisanji, since they didn't know each other from before that.

>>76843536
Anon,these arent real syncroknights you are getting baited

>>76843480
>schizo
I thought the suffix for an anti obsessed with a vtuber was "sperg", shouldn't it be "Sayusperg" instead of "Sayuschizo"?

>>76842235
based Sayu
if she can pull it off, more power to her.
I wish her the best.
...not sure what this has to do with Matara and Doki tho.

>>76842319
That means Doki is in the clique now

>>76843581
On the positive side, Elira's secret discord gave us ALL OUT WAR and all the funposting that came with it.

>>76843808
I'm not so sure. They defend their oshi VICIOUSLY. Even dragoons weren't as feral when Selen was missing in January and in the immediate aftermath of the termination and the black stream.

>>76843916

>>76843916
You can defend without attacking. It's fairly easy to spot people that are arguing in bad faith.

>>76843838
If she has fun with it, why not? Imagine her cosplaying her character. Doesn't matter if its NSFW or not. It would be kino.

>>76842235
Hell yeah, how much?

>>76844091
I guess you're right. Maybe i'm just starting to lose my fucking patience with syncroknights. At this point, I think only a miracle can save Sayu.
Or maybe i'm about to fall for the astroturfing.

>>76843827
I see you've been away for awhile. People have gotten so obsessive over vtubers that they'll create threads larping as different people and just keep replying to themselves. So now it's schizo.

>>76842319
>she doesn't know

>>76843881
More like the opposite actually: Doki is slowly forming her own Clique, and Matara is IN.

>>76843916
I promise most of us arent like that

>>76842760
Sounds kind of opportunistic with how much she talked about "Hollywood". It's like she farmed all she had to farm from that and is now moving on to the next big thing.

>What about Quinn? Well, we're not friends. -Matara
uuuuuuuuh Sayufags our rrats?

>>76844644
I’m pretty certain it’s Quinn that got BTFO there, but alright

>>76843385
LETS GOOOOOOO

>*switches sides*

>>76844639
It was a job, and changing jobs is normal.
Just some viewers prefer to mistake kayfabe for reality.

>>76844639
Explains a lot about how she constantly glazes Mint and now Doki apparently

>>76842235
>backstab people revealing private information
>endanger your company by messing with copyrighted shit
>be a literal pedo
And she acts shocked and offended lmao. I don't understand how anyone defends her.

>>76844895
As long as she doesn't fuck them over later, she can glaze all she wants.

>>76844806
member armada?
this is a new incarnation so theres a chance

>ctrl + f sayu

>>76842187
OH NO SISTERS YOU SAID SHE HATED DOKI OH NONONO

>>76844895
anon i think you just hate matara lmao, she collabs with mint "SHES LEECHING", she talks about how nice mint was when they met up again "WHY DOES SHE GLAZE MINT SO MUCH" like they aren't legitimately best friends kek

>>76842760
>they were just coworkers not friends
>btw this new people obhang out ARE my best friends and I looooove them!
Lol, lmao.

>>76842235
Like clockwork

>>76842187
save da rose

>>76842187
Elira Riku and miload in shambles lmao

>>76842187
Mata talked about recently tearing up because she saw people in the comments of a youtube clip defending her against a hater and said she was always used to people shitting on her in niji by jealous sisters who accused her of leeching/flirting with luxiem despite her just liking to collab because they were her friends

she also said her and doki weren't super close but had mutual respect for each other so its fair to say mata still has that niji trauma that kept her from publicly contacting doki because she was scared people would accuse her of the same thing and kept her distance out of respect, either way im grateful for doki for reaching out first

>>76844895
im sorry you've never had friends that like you

>>76842235
>>76842877
More like Sayu antis taking things out of context once again.

>>76844958
Yes, telling Matara she wasn't a failure while at niji, not causing a legal lawsuit with fucking dee's nuts of all things, and being a typical ethnically japanese person who says they like shota characters because they were meta in genshin is damning evidence. Go educate yourself Finana, this is getting old.

>>76842760
Close friend doesn't mean not friends. Reimu, Enna and Millie still consistently talk about her well and she said in that same clip that she hopes people don't clip her out of context to make it seem like she hates anyone

>>76845283
to this day i still don't know what matara and doki have to do with sayu.
another thread yesterday about mint and doki had one of the first responses be "Sayu on suicide watch" or something but got deleted almost instantly. What does Sayu have to do with them?

>>76845413
literally nothing, just mindbroken antis

>>76845413
With all the Doki related rrats killed off, shitting on Sayu is all the sisters have left.

>>76845413
idk ask sayufags they'd been collab begging doki since she graduated and spreading the mata clique rrat

>>76843791
My rrat is that Mint felt guilty about not doing enough or being "complicit" (as in "i didn't tell them to stop being cunts, so it's my fault too"). It doesn't matter anymore, doki mint collab was really nice and that's the important thing.

>>76842235
Finana, it's pointless

>>76842187
Trash and trash, a standard combination.

>>76845597
There's a good chance it's a falseflagging Nijisister. They've got nothing better to do besides targeting the weakest one, since every one of their potential wins has turned into flops

>>76842857
she didn't say that was her only friend still left at niji
in fact she mentioned seeing multiple "old friends" in that clip

>>76845726
i disagree

>>76845597
likely mata is the same. both her and mint clearly have some level of ptsd from their time working for niji but because doki had it worse to the point of wanting to end it they were worried about bringing those feelings back for her. they were able to leave properly but she wasn't granted that despite deserving that level of respect too and they're hyper conscious of it

>>76845413
Sayufags keep painting Matara as le big bad for blocking her

>>76844958
With attackers like you, who needs defenders.

>>76845974
>Another astroturfing moron
Keep it coming nijisis, your lord and savior Vox Akuma is getting dunked on right now

>>76845130
>keep business distance in corpo
>make friends with a single mem
>observe other mems get shafted
>turns out they're also decent people
>willing to test the waters
It's more likely than you think.

>>76846136
Keep deflecting, sayufags. Anyone can easily look at archive to see how you faggots keep shitting on Matara being new clique leader before doki colllab BTFO you retarded rrats

>>76846295
>anyone can look at the archive for my previous falseflag posts

>>76842187
AIEEEEEE Riku sama save the organs

>>76846390
>i...its a falseflag
Sure, Sayucucks.

>>76844639
>I've literally only kept two friends from past jobs and I'm currently working with one of them now. It's not that deep. Do you still talk with your college mates? Highschool? Middle school? Primary? Your fucking day care?

>>76845413
Sayu keeps making menhera member posts and twitter vagueposts about how she's scared people will forget about her and leave her and wondering how things would have turned out if the niji character assasination didn't happen, so sisters keep celebrating and making endless bait threads every time she's isn't included in ex.nijiEN stuff

>>76843419
>The cockroach can live without its head up to a week
My body is ready

>>76845413
Remember al the shit the sisters were trying to pull with Doki just a few weeks ago about how Mint and Matara not interacting with her was "proof" that they hated her? It's the exact same shit but with Sayu now

>>76843540
I don't believe Elira has any of those

>Ctrl+F
>"Sayu"
>26 results
Sisters...

>>76843560
>vivi could have participated had she stayed an indie
lmao this fuckin sucks vivibros

>>76843640
Yes she does

>>76843916
It's different.
You probably wouldn't believe me if I told you that sincroknights don't even hate Matara (yet). She still reached out and helped Sayu during a horrid time in her life, but withdrawing that help suddenly and going no contact for several more months, leading to even more breakdowns is concerning, especially after then leaning into the one person Sayu absolutely won't forgive for whatever reason. Even Sayu was hoping for some kind of reconciliation at some point, and only gave up completely on that once Quinn got involved.

We mostly just want some fucking answers to what the hell went down and how the hell she made Sayu THAT fucking desperate to apologize publicly several times due to her refusing to respond in any private manner.

The whole situation just stinks and is concerning. It's clear that Matara cared less about Sayu than Sayu did about Mata, but leaving her alone to fester and rot for so many months just feels wrong for somebody whose entire persona is built around "oh I'm a mother I love and forgive everyone".

>>76842235
This post violates a rule. Spamming/Flooding.

>>76843791
Doki will re-connect with anyone she likes in Niji.
Look how quickly she dropped into
10JIN's stream when he finally escaped NijiID.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYfY6SsPvg&t=5062s

S-SONNA BAKANA

>>76848163
Yeah, clearly some kind of shackle is gone. She made that comment almost immediately after wrestletuber ended.

>>76848163
To be fair, the statement about "making new friends and reconnecting with [pre-Niji] ones" was made when the drama was far fresher

>>76848375
And now Doki is in a much better place mentally than she was in February.

>>76843417
You worked yourself into a shoot. I'm not even a sister I just wish all you fags stopped shitting the catalog with bullshit drama.

>>76842235
how many fucking times has this one specific streamable link been spammed in the last week

>>76848569
Unfortunately, get used to it. Mint and Matara are now enemies #3 and #4, so expect them to be added to the daily sister shitpost rotation several times a day. However, there's much less to shit on them for, so the butthurt kindred will probably just keep making sayu threads instead.

>>76845413
Pretty much nothing. Anything worth being said was already when Sayu confirmed the contract leak with her own unsigned NDA document. Pretty much anything after that point is just sisters was always my assumption.

>>76842187
no......... the ends times are nigh........

>>76842235
okay nijisister

>>76844602
and me? i'm inside doki

>>76842235
Damn sister you really are desperate lmao

>>76846752
>It's the exact same shit but with Sayu now
Kek you are insane if you think Doki Mint and Mata will come out and do anything with her when she runs to dramtubers first when she was barely in the company and likely didn't even interact with Doki or Mint
Absolutely delusional

>>76845413
They don't.
The only thing I want to know though is why they either stayed silent or wouldn't even respond in private when reached out to. The cases between zaion and selen are virtually identical, and yet nobody, not even selen's lawyers, ever thought to contact zaion?

The whole thing is just bizarre. The most charitable interpretation I can imagine is that both Mint and Doki are too fucking scared of approaching her due to memoryholing her firing when it happened, but Doki clearly at least KNOWS sayu exists due to directly mentioning her by name when announcing that hoofobia collab, and there's no fucking way Mint didn't draw parallels when seeing what happened to Doki.

And then there's Matara, who supported her up until November and then pulled support so suddenly that even Sayu was fucking flabbergasted to this day, then shilled fucking Quinn as if she saved him from some terrible demons and how his life was soooooo hard under that "nightmare."

Kuro was out long before any of this happened and is on his own island, and Michi was in a completely different branch, so they get a pass.

>>76844958
>She was heavily doxxed and the dox was supported by livers
>DEEZ NUTS
>Enna has CP on her phone and showed to others.

>>76843536
Sayu views Doki and the other former Nijis as enemies now.

>>76849232
>What is a metaphor for 200, Alex?

>>76849189
You vastly underestimate how much of a mental grip Niji had on its members. The only reason why Mint didn't reach out to Doki sooner was specifically because of that fear instilled in her.

It's a cult. That's no longer an opinion.

>>76849189
>and yet nobody, not even selen's lawyers, ever thought to contact zaion?
why they fuck should they
holy fuck sayufags with the dokibegging
>>76845581
kek as you can see they are still trying to ride doki's coattails

>>76849364
>and yet nobody, not even selen's lawyers, ever thought to contact zaion?
>why they fuck should they
To corroborate evidence for a case should it be required?

>>76849341
>The only reason why Mint didn't reach out to Doki sooner was specifically because of that fear instilled in her
She literally said the actual reason why. Why the fuck are you fags still trying to make some shit up? It hasn't even been a full day since she said it and you're already trying to spin a new narrative.

>>76849232
And yet she bitches and moans about not being able to collab with them.

>>76849482
>She literally said the actual reason why.
Yes, and that was it. She didn't want to make Doki uncomfortable. That was the exact quote.

However, Sayu's case is the opposite. She WANTS to be reached out to and she desperately wants a response of some kind. Yet they refuse and just let her grow like a trash fire in the corner of the room.

>>76844895
I'll be honest I'm still suspicious about Matara's behaviour with Mint and Doki but as long as she doesn't suddenly start talking shit about either of them or trying to screw them over then I'm willing to giver her the benefit of the doubt.

>>76845407
>this kills the dramafag
Underrated comment.

>>76844958
>be a literal pedo
I have very little patience for Sayu or her fans at this point but this is such a fucking disingenuous attack.

>>76845407
Yes, but that only applies when Becky ate Jenna's sushi at the buffet, not when Alex nearly fucking dies and Sally goes to the press and says that Alex murdered her dog and deserved it.

>>76844958
Best get to steppin' Kenji. You don't belong in these parts

>>76842187
>ex nijis reforming niji once they leave niji
am i think only one who finds this immensely boring? just watching them fall back into old habits

>>76849189
>Matara, who supported her up until November
This never happened, the only thing mata did was console sayu ONCE by offering a similar experience when they were both in niji, they are not close friends, hell sayu wasn't in niji long enough to get close to any one aside from her own gen

Idk why sayufags think that helping what would barely count as an acquaintance once means they owe that person assistance for the rest of their lives. Mata isn't the only one ignoring sayu, literally every ex-niji is but for some reason it's her responsibility to lift up the person constantly mingling with dramafags

Everyone seems to forget that the Nijileaker pinned Kyo as the one who spread the doxx (from someone who is not a liver), and that another liver spread it on the sister site.
https://rentry.org/nijileaker/
But him knowing that might imply that everyone in niji at the time knew. The ex-nijis still chose to associate with him.

>>76847946
https://youtu.be/gRDtaj1Is4Y?t=7823
>have a private conversation
>reveal info from that conversation to gain some internet points
>get blocked since you cannot be trusted with private information
I think the situation is quite clear, what more do you want?

>>76850520
Didn't Nina leak shit about Kiara when they met up in Austria?
Telling someone that their life matters is not leaking private information, especially when they've built their whole persona around "Hollywood," and her own comments as Nina.

The whole thing is fishy as fuck, especially if she's approaching somebody in such a fragile mental state as Sayu post termination.

>>76849189
>>76849592
>>76849681
>>76847946

why do sayufags think every ex-niji owes her something? she's not close friends with literally any of them but somehow they're expected to save her from her own self-destruction?

if you get fired from a job does that mean its your responsibility to sure every retard that gets fired from that same place gets a stable job? what the fuck kind of logic are you running on

>>76849681
mata never talked about sayu period. wish i could say the same for your oshi

>>76850772
lurk 10 more years before falseflagging

>>76849592
Just imagine the remote case they interact or collaborate with her. Sayu is so retarded that in the middle of a collab she will make reference to NijiEN and her dismissal, no matter what the other person responds she will end up getting dragged into drama and bullshit.
It's pretty obvious why they don't acknowledge her, they don't want to end up in a drama caused by Sayu.

And that's not even talking about Sayu's relationship with the dramatubers who gleefully threw shit at any of the three while they were still in Nijisanji.

>>76850867
cute fanfic sister

>>76850772
That's the problem with Sayu. She was barely part of Niji. She never built the following/popularity. Sorry you got done dirty and blasphemed. You barely knew these people. She shouldn't expect them to reach out because they barely knew her. Get on with your life and move past being an "ex niji."

i find it pretty weird that out of every ex-niji including doki and mint none have once reached out or consoled sayu except for mata and yet she's the one sayufags want to burn at the stake and are still blaming for all her problems

you could even argue that doki making an effort to reconnect with everyone except sayu despite her having a public meltdown after seeing mint get invited would be grounds for suspicion but sayufags are still begging her to save their oshi, why is that?

>>76851212
because sayucucks are just as number hungry as sayu and doki currently has the most clout and best reputation, pissing her off would definitely hurt her views so they focus on literal 2views like quinn

>ctrl + f sayu
>56 results
mindbroken

>>76851212
They feel like they are doing good by enabling her wallowing in self-pity rather than tell her what she needs to do which is get therapy or find some way to move on from the past.

>>76850710
I don't know what she revealed about kiara, I do not follow matara that closely. On the other hand she certainly had bad experiences with people talking behind her back and she hard-filters those people from her life.
Sayu has shown that she cannot keep conversations private and she should really start working on that if she wants other content creators to interact with her.

>>76851436
This is what Sayu wanted. Now all mentions of Doki will be followed with mentions of Sayu even though the two barely know each other.

>>76846752
i was going to call you a schizo but
>thread about Matara and Doki
>90% of the thread successfully deflected to talking about Sayu
i am now fully convinced.

>>76851576
yup dont forget mata was the constant target of nijisisters while she was in niji and even excluded from her own gen, she was so traumatized that she spent the first month in vshojo constantly apologizing everytime SHE thought she might say or do something that could get her cancelled on twitter, i dont blame her for cutting off people she thinks could hurt her again

>>76850772
>>76850848
Did you retards actually read my reply? Or are these just bots?

>>76842319
that's funny considering that oft-referenced clip of her saying they all talk to and hang out with each other and exclude her.

>omg she followed her on social media
>omgggggggggggggg

>>76842187
After Matara's appearance in WrestleTuber, this is just a matter of time.

It seems at this point all vtubing would be perfect if Sayu just killed herself is what I’m getting from the past week

>>76842235
sister no one would buy you even if you tried, u might have to be the one whos paying instead to get any touch of opposite sex at this point.

>>76851576
>Sayu has shown that she cannot keep conversations private and she should really start working on that if she wants other content creators to interact with her.
The only reason any of that happened is BECAUSE of the isolation and harassment, though. Sayu's termination was a near identical case to Doki's, yet the community response was the complete opposite. And now, after a year of either dogpiling or ghosting her, they're justifying continuing to do so by... citing her desperate attempts to get people to believe her in her darkest moments caused by their own dogpiling and ghosting?

>Look at that menhera! Yeah, Niji is bad, but in this specific case we were RIGHT to hate her! Look, see how she's unraveling under constant harassment with no support? We must have been right all along and don't need to apologize for this.

She's a gigantic fucking loose end for everybody else's "happy ending" and I'm just not understanding how this could've possibly happened.

>>76853246
She got a big boost from Doki graduation, people were on her side, and she wasted it on going to drama channels, oversharing private information and having meltdowns.
It's not right to hate her, she did not do anything particularly bad, but because of how she describes and talks about stuff, even the act of non-interaction with her can create a toxic environment for you (from nijifags, from dramafags, even scizosyncroknights)? Hell, in the last meltdown she said that that the ex-nijis are her enemies, simply because they did not include her in their circle, do you really think that makes other content creators want to interact with her?
She should first fix her mental and stop traumadumping in public spaces, then she can slowly start rebuilding her network.

>>76853246
Sayu sucked up to DN. She choose the wrong people to help defend her. No reason for her to double down to defend DepressedNousagi.

>>76854779

>>76852489
But enough about Matara

insane levels of rent free

>>76854588
>Hell, in the last meltdown she said that that the ex-nijis are her enemies, simply because they did not include her in their circle, do you really think that makes other content creators want to interact with her?

That's not what she fucking said, for one, and just another case of her words being twisted to paint her as a horrible person to justify their treatment of her. What she said was for people to stop fucking bring up the other ex-nijis and comparing her to them in her chat because they clearly have no relationships, which is something she's stated many, many times in the past.

The biggest thing that people keep fucking ignoring is that her problems are NOT with the ex-nijis in the fucking first place. The majority of her gripes lie squarely with the indie community who is now climbing over each other to suck from Doki and Mint's teats while memoryholing their own treatment of Sayu.

>>76855093
Why does Sayu deserve attention from the indie community when she sucks up to and defends drama channels who openly doxxed other vtubers for money.

>>76855225
sure, why don't you show me then exactly where DN posted somebody's legal name, address, and passport for money?

>>76855093
>I get compared to some old ex-coworkers a lot, and I have nothing to do with them. I've thought about it a lot and I don't want to cause drama, but you are basically mentioning people who I am enemies with. I don't see them that way, but you are mentioning people who want nothing to do with me.
last stream, around 1:37:12
No word twisting, that's basically what she said, the act of non-interaction with her makes you her enemy. I would not touch a person like that with a ten foot pole

>>76853246
She's not isolated, though. The Sayu of today is an immensely successful indie, commanding numbers that other indies would kill for even a faction of. Sure, it's not Doki or Mint's numbers, but why does that matter when she's regularly breaking into 4view territory? She still has a host of people willing to work with her, like Bao or Pippa. And if she networked, she could easily get others as well.
The issue is that Sayu has too many mindworms to sit back and enjoy her immense success. It really doesn't matter if Doki or Mint or Matara collabs with her or not, she has enough support to not need to care about it. Yet, she cares. She gets one-guy'd on stream way too easily and ends up saying stuff that gets clipped by bad faith clippers and turned into a part of her brand. Sure, she probably didn't intend to draw hard lines in the sand against Cy Yu or VShojo, but if she gets one-guy'd into saying negative things about them, the bad faith actors will draw that line for her, and suddenly, more and more collab opportunities are closed by association.
I really with Sayu success. Kurosanji really screwed her over and is the cause of her mental spiral, but that mental spiral is NOT helping her at all. I really do hope she gets her mentals straight before she ends up doing something really dumb and torpedos the success she currently has.

Holy fuck man this is some teenage girl gossip shit wtf is up with you faggots.

>>76854843
>DN Paywalls Doxxshit material
>"We all make mistakes!"

Sisters and antis can't stop making every fucking thread of this board about sayu? holy fuck the level of retardation

>>76842187
It's dragoonover...

I can't believe Doki was part of the clique all along. Selen must be rolling in her grave.

>>76843370
not scared of doki, but lbr it was probably really awkward for mint/matara to reach out immediately, if at all. in matara's case, they were never really close enough for that to happen organically, and in mint's case, her possible lingering affections for her pre-niji associations probably played a part in it too. and we know doki felt isolated from everything that had to do with niji, so she probably didn't think she could initiate contact even with the other ex-nijis. there's also legalities to consider: while doki can afford not to give too much of a fuck about post-termination restrictions, those who graduated "amicably" might be otherwise restricted from anywhere around 6mos up to a year. but that's not to say that doki wouldn't be open to reconnecting with old friends, if they take the initiative. case in point: u-san was the one who approached her, and they already have collabs and a song in the works.

>>76855912
You posted this using a pic of Grimmi what the fuck are you doing?

>>76857217
Whats it to you bitch

>>76855093
>The majority of her gripes lie squarely with the indie community who is now climbing over each other to suck from Doki and Mint's teats while memoryholing their own treatment of Sayu.
That's the thing, while you can't deny that part of it IS from how badly that shithole Kurosanji fucked her over, some of it is from her actions as well. She acts like she's completely persona non grata when that's not the case,(you want a case of a vtuber that actually IS, look up BunnyAyumi who when she got exposed during her drama with Layna basically quit vtubing altogether and went back to fleshtubing) She's been in plenty of collabs and even events like the Palwords Twitch Rivals. You got people like Zentreya who also collabed with her and what does she do almost immediately? Talk shit about vshojo because she can't get in
Then you also got shit like her drama with Kenji and before you say it, I am aware that Kenji is one of the faggots who slandered her calling her a pedo. But, using a drama he was involved in that had zero relation to her to air out her grievances with him and insert herself into drama when she didn't have to doesn't serve to endear her to the wider indie scene especially when he's posting screenshots from /here/ of her fans calling him a nigger

>>76842235
Sisters REALLY don't want Sayu to complete the anti Niji alliance. At this point Doki, Mint and Sayu collab will be a pivotal point of fuck you Niji. Its inevitable at this point with how much you anti her.

>>76858319
Ok, I saw the clip of Sayu talking about Vshojo, and honestly I don't think she really talked shit about them (coming from someone who watches Holo/Vshojo). Vshojo being a clique is an open secret at this point, and she's not saying they're doing anything bad, and that it's just how they recruit people. People are really blowing this out of proportion

>>76858518
The thing is, there's only really two options for sisters' endgames with sayu
Either she gets so pitied she eventually gets a collab or statement to force everyone to shut up, OR sayu fucking goes full menhera and goes nuclear, revealing everything she ever saw while inside Nijisanji, which if the little redacted snippets we got from Raz are anything to go off of, would end up taking down a lot of careers.

>>76856519
I know you're joking but there's also a rrat about how Matara was never in the clique, but rather trying to have members change sides to her own clique, hence a bunch of graduations around the same time as Nina, who ended up as Matara's friends, while those who didn't go along with her remaining as Elira's followers
Would also explain why she was seen with Millia (and I think Enna?) but not Elira after after Nina's graduation, just trying to convince them

Now a spicy matball would be if we ever see any of these girls interacting with Elira

>Nijisisters got mindbroken by Sayu
KEK

>>76846295
Yeah no one believes Sayu fags are actively nega. The only ones who shit post down on people are Nijisisters and the occasional troll. 'Occasional' is the keyword you obsessed losers. Sisters need to get a life.

>>76858745
She hasn't. She's just getting one-guy'd and expressing her opinions.
The issue is, she has a ton of eyes on her, so everything she says is going to get turned into drama. She talks about why she can't get into VShojo? CLEARLY IT'S THE CLIQUE! Make a thousand clips with misleading thumbs about it!
It's one of the biggest reasons why Doki refrains from talking about Niji or other chuubas at all, since if she says the tiniest of things the drama clippers will take it out of hand. The same goes for Sayu, but she doesn't have nearly the same restraint, so the dramanigs end up drawing lines in the sand for her and isolating her from collabs more.

>>76859280
Sincroknights just want Sayu to be happy really, it's the dramafags and falseflagging sisters that keep stirring shit. And you'll see this because the arguments always start off with a sister spouting some retarded defamatory nonsense

>>76859710
>it's the dramafags and falseflagging sisters that keep stirring shit
Weird how Sayu reached out to dramafags. Wanted to show DepressedNousagi a fun time.

>>76859888
Case in point

>If I say the same thing 500 times it will become true
is this a chinese thing?

>>76858745
Calling vshojo a clique when the topic of kurosanji being a clique and the reason for doki's attempt on her life the worst time to be using the term when there's specific implications at the moment, and she's fully aware of this especially since she immediately went to target matara and blame her for being the reason she can't get in and not because of her being an obvious brand risk no large corpo would touch with a ten foot pole

>>76859710
As far as I can see everyone has post trauma disorder since leaving Nijisanji EN and Sayu has suffered the full brunt of it.

>>76859280
>Yeah no one believes Sayu fags are actively nega.
This fag is one of Sayu's biggest Syncroknights and he constantly shits on Matara for not wanting to interact with Sayu and the rest of Vshojo for daring to not let her in.

>>76859710
>Sincroknights just want Sayu to be happy
targeting and harrassing her ex-coworkers for not wanting to collab with her isn't helping the cause, just a word of advice

>>76860438
>200 followers
retard. He's a nobody random chatter.

>>76860438
Is he the one who went on her chat and begged her to collab with sayu?

>>76860278
You honestly looked too far into it. If you don't have a connection and proven history you don't get into vshojo. Their recruiting campaign was obviously like that. No one would consider vshojo a Black company during that time when a hole was torn into NijiEN.

>>76860701
Sayu is a low 4view her fans don't need to that many followers to be well known, the amount of mutual follows say it all

>patricide on stream

>>76842187
That's normal procedure when someone is in the same event.

>>76860438
Yeah i dont orbit my life around a couple of losers on twitter so I cannot care about your feelings on this one. Ignore the idiot and touch grass.

>>76860781
And yet plenty of sayufags gleefully did so and immediately shat on vshojo and it's members for not pulling out the red carpet for her

>>76861194
He's one of your idiots so deal with the consequences of the type of audience sayu allows to foster

>>76861261
>plenty of sayufags
plenty of sayufags don't exist, retard. There's maybe 10-20 on the board to begin with.

Caring about Twitterfollows is highschooler retard behavior btw

sisters can no longer latch on to mint so now they are doubling down on sayu to cope
sad, many such cases

doki's talking about how she reconnected with mint and matara:
>she never intended to get in touch with mint first
>I never got a chance to say goodbye, so I never tried to get in touch with her, because I never knew where I was with her... I was scared
>doki was the one who floated the mint vs matara fight

>>76861386
Somehow you justified all the threads created to destroh NijiEN since January. Nice.
>>76861261
Matara isn't as strong as she makes herself out to be unlike Doki. Sayu reminds all 3 of them how shit their past is because she is the one that struggles the most to let go.

>>76861386
He's fucking nothing. Are you really THAT pissed about nyfco going down that you have to attack random chat members with no followers? What the hell is wrong with you?

>>76842319
>Implying
I’ve told you fags for the longest time that Matara is extremely businesslike in her vtubing endeavors but you didn’t want to listen to me

>>76847946
Don't lie to me sayufag. I have seen the ritual posting seething at matara and cyyu in /ss/ whenever sayu had a meltdown. And then suddenly "unknown" parties would spread rrats about matara in the catalogue. At least be honest about things. You don't have to suddenly pretend to have always liked her because she is greenlit by Doki.

>>76862086
>>76862259
>immediately deflecting
schizoknights refusing to take responsibility much like their oshi

>>76862570
kek some of them arent even doing that but bending over backwards to come up with another rrat against her

>>76861408
Ironically this post came right as Doki was talking about how they only started talking agains because Mint followed her

>>76862821
That's for her to care about though.
No one here is Mint or Doki or Matara or any vtuber, so caring about who follows who is highschooler retard behavior

>>76862448
Doki is LITERALLY BEST FRIENDS with Enna and Millie now

>>76862570
Take your meds. I can count the number of times /ss/ has reached bump limit without a sister invasion on one hand. Sayu's fanbase only cares about supporting Sayu. There's not nearly enough people to actually attack anybody.
Jesus christ, you've somehow convinced yourself Sayu has this gigantic fucking monster of an army when it's a miracle that /ss/ reaches 50 posts before dying off the catalog.

>>76844639
If it was anywhere else I'd probably share your sentiment, but fuck "Hollywood". Farm those assholes for all that's worth.

>>76863040
Sisters couldn't reach Doki anymore, so now they are punching down on Sayu. Just ignore them.

We need a plan, sisters.

>>76862695
Bro I gave you the answer ignore the troll but if you want a major example of deflection. The thread that leaked her membership stuff was a deflection over the Enna and Diego stuff. Wasn't even an hour into that thrrad before multiple threads got spammed on one topic instead of being contained. Those threads didn't stop either. Now THAT is deflecting. Aloupeeps became angry Aloucucks. That is why you pushed way too hard on this.

>>76863389
The plan is to keep spamming Sayu threads

>>76842235
Disgusting, why do sincrocucks try to pretend this is isn't a bad look? Really getting tired of the "ackshually we love whores here" psyops.

I can bet on this easy. Every time a Sayu shitposting thread gets made the next couple of days mention Enna and Diego. Watch the thread slow to a crawl.

>>76864172
sounds like you're just trying to set up a self fulfilling prophecy since you posted this in an already dying thread

>>76862570
Sisters have been in everyones communities spreading negative shit. They hide horribly.

>>76855800
>I don't see them that way
Are you retarded?

>>76863620
The plan is to commission a ton of nsfw of Doki and posting it to her tags to get on her nerves ;)

>>76864533
I never saw it get called out once. Which means it was fairly in topic and not result of outsiders. /mint/ gets raided too and they call out sisters all the time. Well, no skin off my bones. At least you guys won't be able to use Doki as a crutch to accuse matara of being some kind of clique leader and attack her. I guess that quinn guy is your only angle left.

>>76865255
No, but she certainly is if her goal is to make connections with other people

>>76860701
>>76861194
>sincroknights have NEVER shit on matara and vshojo, its all falseflaggers
>uh where heres her biggest fan on twitter, he shits on them all the time
>d-d-d-d-d-d-doesnt count!!!!
And let's not even get into the /here/ sincroknight who constantly doxxbaits and calls Matara a kike.

>>76866889
It happens all the time. This one was used to make a screencap that they post regularly. Completely out of nowhere. I don't even think she was streaming yet.

>>76868961
Are you saying that's a falseflag? Because those things are all public facts that she herself states openly and yet we get unironic threads here full of cucks calling her "wife". Not to mention her fans constantly encouraging her to sell flesh pics of herself. If you're not cucks then you're groomers.

Vtubing is healing

>>76869214
Yes. It was completely out of nowhere and the poster never responded afterwards.
the wife thing is just an ongoing joke because when she divorced her husband back in 2022 she put on the ring and said she's married to her job now.

>>76869625
>fag who gets blasted by everyone doesn't respond out of shame
How is this strange? Way to ignore the flesh pic part of my post btw.

>>76869214
The wife thing is >>76869625 but also how we deal with anyone who posts the screencap in >>76868961 and maybe I meant it

>>76869907
>don't take it seriously, it's just a joke, but i mean it seriously
I regret trying to talk to you subhumans.

>>76869832
The flesh thing is unfortunately also an ongoing feet joke she's had for a while. She also has a fuckton of feet and thigh emotes. Not my thing, but whatever.
She's been streaming for a lot longer than she's been a vtuber, and she used to be a fleshie before, too.

>>76842187
hope they kiss

>>76870241
>a joke
She literally has a fansly selling them. You're mentally ill.

>>76870355
You seem fun at parties

>>76870355
The only thing there are vacation photos as a joke. There's nothing spicy there.

I can't think of anything more pathetic than tracking who does or doesn't follow who

>>76870502
Sorry to spoil your fun of spewing falsehoods to protect your image I guess. Personally I don't see the point of engaging in something you can't even openly admit to anonymously on 4chan.
>>76870641
Selling parasocialism material isn't a joke, it's blatantly meant to achieve a certain effect and proves the aforementioned accusations.

>>76870763
Eh, if you say so. I only wish she'd keep that stuff on the website instead of fansly because the dramafags love to twist everything.

>>76870864
Yes, I do say so, and up until now you've been trying to refute me but it looks like you now concede.

>>76871068
There's no real point when you're just going to twist it all and hate her anyways.

>>76871229
I've only stated facts, not twisted anything. You on the other hand are the one trying to twist everything into a "joke". You're almost definitely parasocial for her which makes this whole thing even more insane, like you don't want to admit it because you know it reflects badly on her and her fans which will harm her growth even though you're all engaged in it.

>>76845194
It's awesome to hear that. Matara has been through a lot and she deserves the best moving forward

>>76871881
>pro-mata post with a sayu pic
oof, how shameless

>>76861454
When all else fails kick the cat

>>76872010
Heh. A few days earlier he would have been accusing her of blocking sayu from her opportunities and whining about her association with quinn. Also accusing her of manipulating mint to hate doki so the dragoons could join their anti matara crusade.

>>76872250
Officially, she's a donkey now

>>76845413
Nothing, the sisters are on suicide watch so they have to deflect to cope

>>76872010
If people are going to try putting words in my mouth and say all Sincronites are x y or z, then I might as well speak my own take on the matter. Both Sayu and Matara are victims of nijisisters, and both are content creators I enjoy. While it looks like the creators have some form of beef with each other, I don't. I watch both of them at least semi regularly, like many other Sincronites do with other ex nijis. I watched a lot of Nijis since the EN branch was made. I seen many of them rise, fall, and more. While there is drama between some creators (or perceived to be) I usually have some sense in where they're coming from. Doesn't mean they're right to act in some ways, but it's still understandable if you watch them enough to know what they value and what makes them tick. While many Sincornites will give you many different answers of what they want out of this, I only want clarity. I want to know why some people made the decisions they did, and I hope they can reconcile these differences so that we can finally move on from Nijisanji's abuse. I don't need a perfect ending, but I want at least some form of closure for the people involved. Spreading mindless hate is counterproductive to that purpose

>>76849468
>should it be required
well ig that answers your question. it wasn't required.

>>76842235
>Doki and Matara OP
>Not even a minute later a Sayu post
Holy obsessed

>>76842187
WHO
FUCKING
CAAAAAARES
YOU FAT GOSSIPING HEN

>>76849189
Because they never interacted
They're not friends
They don't know each other
And doki never needed Sayu

Sayu is fucking obsessed with getting a fraction of Doki's attention and has been on her knees begging for attention

>>76847946
Ask Sayu to tweet publicly that Piprup is not my true fan then maybe I'll believe you.

>>76878586
Pretty sure she's timed out for talking shit about random vtubers before, and piprup a few times.
Not really sure what you'd get out of attacking a random dude though. What's your obsession with this guy? You got a crush?

>>76858745
Her clip got picked up by the dramatubers so the effect was amplified. And she said the word clique during a time when Niji was strongly associated with it. Sayton will never ever let her get close to Vshojo now and all Vshojo's indie friends who are mostly high 3view and 4view will avoid her now sadly.

>>76860438
Yeah Sayufags are all talk and no action. If you want us to believe you maybe show us proof that Sayu will ban him from her stream or ask Sayu to tweet about this.

>>76862259
This is why Sayu's reputation will never recover. Sincroknights really have no intention to amputate the cancerous part from the start.

>>76880154
>>76879826
Retards really coming in here trying to harass random fucking twitter people.
Absolute scum.

>>76878781
Shhhh.... Piprup might be watching us here

>>76880864
>he's a retarded containment breaker
>he was also responding to a direct quote by another containment breaker trying to fuck with him.

This is your fucking account, isn't it?

>>76874445
I'm also of the same sentiment for some form of clarity or closure between them all. I personally don't give a fuck about mata and I'll occasionally tune in to doki or mint's stream, but even me saying that, dramafags and nijisis will turn it into "I fucking hate them with a passion". And the endless amount of astroturfing is still ridiculous.
There are times where she gets one-guy'd and I'm facepalming thinking why the fuck she doesn't immediately end stream and rant behind her website so that we have a lower chance of dramafags misconstruing her words. Her being traumatized is valid and if she's saying therapy isn't fucking working for her, the least I want her to do is to rant behind her website instead of on stream, if not, at the very least contain it to a 1~2 minute segment then resume streaming whatever's the main topic. She's allowed to have her moments if somehow the stream topic/game/whatever is relevant, but spiraling off the moment she gets one-guyed is a fat "bruh". At that point, I just turn off stream and interact with the discord server/do something else until she's done. Also for dramafags going "le ex-niji drama grifting again", apparently you still don't get she only hates those virtue signaling "friends" she had before niji bandwagoned behind dokibird, but never apologized to her after a full year of not believing in her and treating her like the plague. It's fucking beyond me that you morons refuse to understand that and the only way for you dramafags will understand that is for someone to slander you in a believable way, have everyone you know backstab you in every way possible for as long as possible until you're vindicated.

>>76862930
>A simple follow snowballed into reconnecting and the catalog imploding during wrestletuber
>NOOOO CARING ABOUT WHO FOLLOWS WHO IS RETARDED

>>76850197
I miss this dude, I wonder what happened to him.

>>76872553
I don't care anymore. As long as the Sayufags move on now I will forgive them.

>>76882480
At this point that's pretty much all we can do. Just sit in the corner and try to support her enough to love herself again.
Matara, Quinn, whatever, this whole scenario never should've happened and is just frustrating. I don't care about hurting any of the people who wronged her. I just want everyone to be fucking happy again.

Sometimes I seriously regret getting into this stupid timesink of a hobby.

>>76882631
You know what all your problem is?
> I don't care about hurting any people who wronged her.
Have you considered the part about matara "wronging" her was your own mental schizophrenia? Many of your lot do care hurting those "villains" which spawned all anti stuff. I suppose now that doki has acknowledged mata they will be forced to play nice. It is pointless to hope that maybe you all at least introspect and admit that maybe all these evil people you were crusading against weren't so evil in the first place.

>>76882804
Anon that's the fucking point. They're upset and frustrated, and they're also not the people going after Matara because they have their hands full just keeping that damn hag alive.

>>76842235
sayu this sayu that
it's almost like nijiniggers have no more ammunition left

>>76882804
NTA, but
>you all
Most of the sincroknights are just neutral about the Matara thing, the ones attacking her are a very vocal minority

>>76882804

>>76881108
Nah anon. I am just a friendly passerby who is pointing out that someone from Sayu's fanbase is ruining her reputation on X.

>>76883115
The dude has virtually no post engagements even on your screenshot. Nobody's seeing this shit. How the fuck are you finding these if you're not directly searching for or instigating these kinds of people?

>>76859280
I don't particularly dislike Sayu or her fans in general but some of them absolutely do hate Matara.

>>76884333
They hate both matara and cyyu for "abandoning" her but only actively anti matara.

>>76884385
The idiots who actively hate matara are a minority and the discord doesn't fucking know what anyone in that minority does since no one brings it up because most ppl there don't bother with twitter or simply don't know.
Also cyyu? seriously? Is your source "I made it the fuck up?"

>>76842235
>Says this that she still wants money
>Leaves her FAANG job
So was she lying about being in FAANG? If you're that desperate for money since you were a kid, why would you leave a job that paid 6 digits to become a 3view streamer?

>>76884580
/ss/

>>76884758
So you're not even going to directly quote or show any direct proof there's reasonable hate towards cyyu. Tell me you made it the fuck up without telling me you made it fuck up.

>>76884580
NTA but I've lurked enough to remember CyYu allegedly was kind of a friend to Sayu but never came forth with his anti-Niji story until the Selen termination. Sayufags take it as an indication that he's taking the opportunity to share it now for clicks instead of defending Sayu.

>>76884878
Seriously? You expected me to take screenshots at every passing comment? You guys were fairly open with your dislike about the two. I sure hope you're joking.

>>76885224
Correct. It was a fairly normal thing to see there amongst the deluge of concernfaggotry. Really surprised they are denying that.

most Dokifags' oshi isn't Doki, it's drama.

>>76865255
If we are to take this following statement within context, she meant to say "mentioning people who view me as an enemy". It is unfortunate mistake in phrasing.

>>76884878
You're fucking kidding, right?
The Cy Yu thing is pretty well known. He was a regular on her channel for collabs, even.
And then just a few months back he was LEAPING at Kenji the very moment Sayu entered the fray, along with Quinn. He's one of the few people Sayu's been very clear about fucking ghosted her after the niji termination. For fuck's sake, he's even still on her outdated as fuck youtuber wiki page from like 2022.

>>76842235
advanced sayu derangement syndrome

>>76842187
Sisters...... our narrative.....

>>76843640
>>76847928
eh, maybe she does.

>>76858788
Indeed, Epstein would blush!

Why do I seem to hate Matara?

>>76842187
Cool are they going to make an update to their detective game? Or does that belong to Anycolor?

>>76842187
Sisters coping hard and deflecting as proven by this thread
>>76843039
this has been well known for a long time, it just ramped up recently because of the doxxsite going down. 'Sisters' was always literal and never just a meme.
>>76844958
>backstab people revealing private information
they deserved it
>endanger your company by messing with copyrighted shit
they deserved it
>be a literal pedo
jokes and 2D aren't real, babe. You're being hysterical.