/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Sucking Riku's cock. It's gotta be ambrosia given how thats all they and their fans seem to do anymore.

>>76782193
Your homos arent doing any better either sister.

>>76782348
>holo out of nowhere
classic sister

How the hell did Twisty get less people watching her ASMR than Alias?

>>76782613
>>>>>>>>holo

>>76782193
>ASMR
>actively lower than her first stream post-debut
Fucking what? How?

This is probably better than what they were doing before. Which I can't find any information on desu

>>76782834
She's a retard who tried courting nijisisters with Gfe

>>76782193
Having Enna suck your cock if male.

>>76782613
there were no holos mentioned in that post are you drunk?

>>76782193
Ryoma's cold shower bits are honestly pretty funny. Hope that guy finds success.
Don't give a shit about the other two.

>>76782613
OP is obviously a holofag because they're the only ones who would think the numbers in OP are bad.

>>76782193
The sad thing is all 3 of them are pretty good streamers. Niji is a debuff at this point. They'd do quite well in any other corp.

>>76782193
what is even the point of holo id ? oh, to get mogged by noctyx and luxiem.

>>76782834
V4M has a mostly male audience, I dont think there's any female viewers there besides other vtubers. In contrast, NijiEN seems to have a mostly female audience, a few lesbians there maybe, and most males left due to the drama and other smaller yabs throughout 2022-2023.

>>76783407
There are two ways to interpret these numbers sis. 1) The new wave attracted zero new/returning viewers to the nijibox. These viewers are just an extension of the existing Niji audience. This would mean there is basically no path to growth for Anycolor outside of Japan. 2) This IS the CCV with debut honeymoon buff and they're about to drop to 1 finana over the next few months.

Both cases are as grim as it gets for NijiEN.

>has to compare their big guns to holo id now
kek

>>76782193
>FREE PALESTINE girl does Yandere ASMR
Yeah makes sense.

>>76784942
the hell are you talking about?

>>76783959
If they choose to join nijisanji they aren't good streamers

>>76785527
vtubing is a entertainment hobby this isn't politics anon. you don't have to view everything in such a childish black/white view.
being in Niji is still preferable to being a 2view indie for your career. just leave after your contract ends.

>>76782193
Do we have PLs yet?
Aside from Adios

>>76785652
>vtubing is a entertainment hobby
Yes and joining Nijisanji makes you not entertaining and signals you're only there to contribute to Riku's yacht, qed

>>76785652
That only works if you join pre Selen shock, if you join post Selen shock you'll end up even worse than Kyo and you don't even have the excuse that you didn't know what you were getting into

>>76785917
>Yes and joining Nijisanji makes you not entertaining
Rosemi is more entertaining than your oshi

>>76782193
>3view loli asmr
Grim.

>>76782348
The second gen of homos just got a 3D. Where's Luxiem's?

>>76785974
Correct

>>76785974
People who joined after the Selen shock are objectively 100% innocent of any perceived crime Niji may have committed.

>>76785982
If she was people would actually watch her.

>>76786161
Behold, the most entertaining streamer in the world according to some retard on /vt/

>>76784571
Didn't Iofi's MonHun stream mogged Vox's?

>losing to small corpo

>>76786162
Yes, and they saw nijisanji do all the shit that they do and decided, you know what, I'd like some of that for myself, and this are somehow even more guilty

>>76786161
KEK and true

>>76786161
harsh but fair

>>76784922
seethe, your id branch is a complete failure in attracting paying customers and thats why nobody applied to your auditions. enjoy your kobo ecelebs collabs with uncle windah.

>>76786162
If you see a dude join a famous bandit gang after they got their faces plastered on wanted posters all over town would you say he was innocent?

>>76786463
That doesn't make them sound guilty. If you think a company is gonna go out of business soon it kinda makes sense to sign the contract assuming the company will die before it expires. It's pretty much free money, a free vtuber model, free experience as a streamer, networking opportunities, etc while you watch the trainwreck from the inside. Not a terrible deal.

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJIBROS DON'T LOOK

>>76786682
>That doesn't make them sound guilty
Yes it does, and even worse they willingly choose to do evil instead of being plausibly tricked like existing nijiniggers

>>76785652
>being in Niji is still preferable to being a 2view indie for your career.
It literally isn't. If you're a 2view you haven't abandoned your job and are just doing it as a side-thing with basically no repercussions aside from taking away however much of your leisure time you put into it. If you're monetized the downsides are basically entirely offset, barring groomers.

Even if we completely ignore the black company shit, in Niji you have to spend money to not make money. And if that wasn't enough I don't even think they hire 2views anymore if they ever did in the first place, so why are you even bringing them into the equation?

>>76786739
The people watching Uki just want to get clips on his next racist remarks.

>PixelLink new talents unironically had higher ccv this morning
lol

>>76786874
>And if that wasn't enough I don't even think they hire 2views anymore if they ever did in the first place, so why are you even bringing them into the equation?
All 3 of the new hires are total 2views. Only one of them was found so far and her channel had like less than 1k subs. They really went out of their way to hire proper nobodies this time.

>>76786682
>That doesn't make them sound guilty.
It does in basically every conceivable way. Their only excuse is their contracts were finalized prior to Selen's termination which likely didn't happen.

>>76786944
>this morning
They streamed at EU hours and had a higher Finana, just think about it.
Also, this was well deserved, Kanna is so much fun.

>>76786980
There's always a tell them to go fuck themselves clause in the contract and they decided they don't want do it

>>76786964
The loli was originally Grimmi but they had to find an emergency hire

>>76786980
According to them they were hired like 6 months ago and have been in training ever since. Niji even flew them to Japan to meet with the CEO. Assuming this is true they would've been hired in like late December or early January which coincides almost exactly with the Selen drama going down. It didn't really "take off" until February though so I wouldn't expect them to be aware of it if they aren't /here/. Especially since one of them is a 40 year old normalfag dude who loves cars and another is a 40 year old asian hag, about as far as you can get from /here/.

>>76783407
You don't have to be a holofag to see that being mid to high 3views immediately after debut is fucking terrible. And this is coming from one of vtubing's giants, no less.

It's like saying that Russia, the country that constantly gets sucked off as the #2 superpower, embarrassing itself in its own backyard for the last 2 years is all part of some brilliant master plan to steamroll Ukraine. But much like Russians and their dickriders, you sisters are just going to cope about all of these L's you're taking until the cows come home.

>>76786964
If only one was found to be a 2view that doesn't automatically make the rest 2views as well, but honestly I can agree that it's plausible rather than possible. That's actually thrown me for a loop; now they've basically locked themselves into a position where they're sticking around until the branch gets shuttered, as they'll never be moneymakers big enough to change that, or where they now can't retire as whatever fanbase they had will abandon them the second the Niji label is no longer attached, as that's basically the only fanbase interested in new Niji's right now. I'd almost feel bad for them if they had no excuses to join in the first place.

>>76787169
>Especially since one of them is a 40 year old normalfag dude who loves cars and another is a 40 year old asian hag, about as far as you can get from /here/.
Then they're completely and utterly retarded rather than evil.

>>76787341
The reality of the situation is no one with any moderate success wants to join Niji anymore. They're almost forced to hire 2views because 3views are backing out at the last second after seeing the drama.

If you truly want to groom a 2view into a successful indie this might be your opportunity. Find a recent Niji like Vivi or Twisty and hang out in her chat during her Niji days. She'll be grateful to you when she leaves for sticking with her through this hell. I can't speak for them but at least Mint has been very nice to her OG fans who stuck with her through Niji and still support her now.

>>76784571
I agree completely. Iofi should graduate and join Niji's Indonesian bran- oh yeah...

>>76786739
it will be 2054 by the time kobo can pass vox in supas, if vox did no stream anymore from today. LMAO.

>>76788277
Somebody post the tweet from Vox about how he knows that his numbers will never recover and that it keeps him up at night. I'd rather ride a clean 5/10 existence than hit the 10/10 before crashing to a 1/10.

>>76788277
Whales aren't human.

>>76785527
Mint and Dokibird are also bad streamers.

>>76788277
>30% of each numbers for youtube cut
>2% of that for niji's cut
>35% of that for hololives cut
Which one do you think is bigger?

>>76782834
Nijisanji has a primarily female audience, especially after everyone with morals (read: nearly all of NijiEN’s male audience) dropped them like a hot iron due to the controversies over the past six months. A GFE streamer was never going to do particularly well.

>>76784571
A golden quote from /#/ :
The moment you compare EN with ID you're lose already.
That doesn't make sense however you look at it, there are 200M Indonesian speakers vs 2B English speakers.

>>76782834
desu Twisty and Klara have dumb schedules. They've overlapped every stream so far. Also Twisty delayed her stream by 4 HOURS to 12am pst/3am est which is just unwatchable for a lot of people.

>>76788277
Just wait until 2030 or earlier when an ID vtuber could surpass most EN vtubers in superchat, and when that time comes you will move the goalpost again.

>>76782193
>Apex
western free to play multiplayer slop
>Monster hunter world
FOTM slop. Don't care. Still waiting for monster hunter 5
>ASMR
Fuck idolshit

>>76789919
>shitting on monhun
female post

>>76789494
Yea it's not like the ID vtubers speak and stream in english or anything...

>>76786571
And yet they could fill up a whole venue while your "Big Hitters" couldn't lmao

>>76788277
KEKKKKK compares NijiEN to HoloID because they know they get constantly ass fucked by HoloEN

>>76784571
>>76786571
So, what now?
>>76786739

>>76790618
There are only millions who speak indonesian meanwhile english is almost spoken by the entire planet

>>76790896
You know that includes Indonesian money.

>>76790618
Anon HoloID are already mogging NijiEN

And the fact that the Nijisisters are now using HoloID to compare them means they are now rivaling NijiEN

>>76786739
Its retarded to compare NijiEN to HoloID since indonesia is a smaller demographic

But its funny to see HoloID mogging NijiEN

>>76790618
>its just kobo getting mogged by vox, definitely not our en branch to-ACK!

>>76782193
Hopes and dreams of a better life.

>>76786682
>Nijisanji
>free model
>networking opportunities
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Your argument would work for, say, Idol, however, we were talking about Nijisanji

>>76782193
They get tricked into joining because they think it'll give them a better deal than staying indie, even with all the bad public press going on.

>>76790618
The funniest part about that post?
Kobo's personally made more money from supa's.

>>76792661
>Lifetime superchats btw as in the money they earned their entire existence
If another sister mistakes this as a single stream superchat

>>76782348
>>76782613
Insert that one meme with the two Spider-Mans pointing at each other

>>76782348
>sisters think holochads care about holostars
HOLY KEK, even the homos are doing better than nijiEN.

>>76796867
JESUS CHRIST
dont tell me thats before niji and youtube cut

>>76783376
Of course you wouldn't, sister.

So how many of them wound up being Japanese?

>>76797195
At least one of them is Chinese and one is obviously an EOP American. Klara is the only potentially Japanese one but she's also fluent in Chinese and knows Thai so it can go in any direction. She's most likely Thai though because there's no reason for someone to learn that language otherwise.

>>76797019
It is before their youtube and niji cut

>>76797195
Klara used to be a Japanese vtuber at a small indie company
Don't know about the others

>>76797019
Look on the bright side: smaller amounts means percentages affect them less. For reference, the sister used Vox's total earlier but out of the $1.6 million he "earned" he only got to see about $22k and that's after 2 and a half years

>>76796867
I was thinking they probably make up for it through other ways like Merch and Collabs Kekkkk
Vivi having a meltdown when she spilled her soup might be legit

>>76782193
10 times better than they were getting as indies i guess

>>76799086
most of their youtube earnings comes from memberships and ad revenue. a Niji stream might get like 10k viewers which translates to ~$20-30 in ad revenue. then with memberships and especially gifted memberships you can make a decent income. superchats are just an extra.
also vivi streams on twitch a few times a week so she gets some income from twitch subs.

Twistys voice sounds so familiar, I swear I used to watch someone before who talks very similar with her

>>76799305
Lol

>>76797857
then explain why is kobo eating indomie while vox is eating at subway regularly if he gets only 2% of cuts. oh right, because that percentage cuts is only for merch and not supas.

>>76800339
Because indomie is the food of the gods

>>76800339
>thinking Subway is better than Indomie just because it's more expensive
You should get your taste buds checked out anon

>>76800339
>vox
>subway
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJISIS DON'T LOOK

>>76800339
>subway
Ah yes, true millionaire cuisine

>>76800641
It is, just ask Kronii

>>76788277
IDs also get donations through another platform. Nobody has any idea how much she's making.

>>76804489
So does NijiEN, Streamlabs.

>>76782193
If you dont know, then you are an actual retard

>>76804799
Yeah, it's obviously so you can fuck the livers, just don't be an idiot and declare it to the world like Raito did. I wonder how Petrafucker anon is doing.

>>76789919
>Monster Hunter: World (2018 )
>FOTM slop
Retard-chama...

>>76792156
>Mogging
Number one and two on that list are barely doing better than Meloco. Not mogging at all.

>>76797019
>>76797789
Yikes. You're better off working at Starbucks.

>>76807241
Every NijiEN but Shu is worse than Meloco?

Look I appreciate the attempt at GFE and all but you're in nijisanji, it's not happening.
You'll collab with men left and right. Also the niji audience is mostly angry chinese women.

>>76783407
>who would think the numbers in OP are bad
any sane person?

>>76809751
>You'll collab with men left and right.
2020 newfags really have no idea what GFE means huh

>>76783959
>good streamers
>join niji
LOL,LMAO EVEN

>>76784571
>resorting to comparison with the absolute runt of ID
just when I thought sisters could not possibly fall lower
now post Kobo's or Kaela's numbers
or - better yet - go back to your containment thread /#/

>>76785652
>vtubing is a entertainment hobby this isn't politics ano
hololive? yeah,nijisanji? no,in fact their identity is how woke they are.

>>76782348
uhh sis?

>>76785652
If you're a 2 view indie, you can stream and be happy without constantly getting beaten down about what a worthless piece of shit you are, only leeching success from niji.

>>76809935
retard

>>76786248
if he isnt entertaining then rosemi is even worse than that.

>>76786682
>looking at gangs killing people
>oh let me join them
"innocent and good" are you fuckng retarded?

>>76809996
bro this is a conversation about virtual livestreamers

>>76786276
pixellink has 4views now? nice.

>>76809961
>retard
>showing the retarded loli who lolibait as niji
yeah sister, you are retarded.

>>76809875
>it's ok if she pretends to be my gf for one stream then goes back to being part of a flirting show with dudes right after
No thanks

>>76810075
>bro this is a conversation about virtual livestreamers
>the company is literal black company who bully,slander and drove their own talent to suicide
yeah about that

>>76792661
I mean... Fauna gets a vox birthday every month sooo

>>76807310
>Stream a couple hours every couple days from the comfort of your home
VS
>8 hours a day, 5 days per week, plus commute, doing (light) manual labour in a public facing position
Fuck that, if you can live off streaming it's better even if you make less money.

>>76789494
>golden quote from /#/
>you're lose already
There's no wisdom to be found with retarded numbermonkeys like yourself.

>>76810802
They're not wrong though.
Vox's competition isn't ID. It's EN. ID is inherently a smaller audience than EN and SHOULD have less support in general than Nijisanji's sole remaining international branch, in theory.
ID beating Vox in any metric is an absolute disaster and them even being part of the equation is a sign of the complete collapse of NijiEN's popularity to the point where it has to be compared with fucking Indonesia.

>>76810963
Isn't Iofi the runt of ID, too?

>>76809920
kobo's last vod has 3.19% percent total views vs her total subs count, not good but not as awful as reine.
>>76810386
vox has 9 streams and 27k usd superchats from april to today, his rate is actually insane. he just needs to stream more and he will be back to his old level.

>>76811133
Yeah, I'm sure he does.
Until he fucking proves it, though, he's worthless. He's nowhere fucking near good or big enough to have the hiatuses he does.

>>76811133
>vox has 9 streams and 27k usd superchats from april to today
With 3 of those being special event streams (new outfit, birthday, fan celebration day), things that typically only happen once a year. "Streaming more" is not going to bring in weekly $15k birthday streams.

>>76811207
hes recovering from a heart disease and probably waiting for q4 to drop this june 12 and see what is next for him. merge to niji jp is one possible outcome, he will be a formidable addition for niji jp, his numbers can still compete with hskw, deron, and shiina. he will be fine, vivi and kunai wouldn't be fine because of how crap their numbers are.

>>76810963
There are so many superior arguments to shit on NijiEN with OP's question in mind than pointing out how they are losing to HoloID in viewers which btw most other vtubers do too. These numbers in the OP might look bad for you but they are not for one of the thousands of 2 view chuubas.

>>76811419
That's cool and all, but unless you can find a way to use that heart disease to explain the black stream, he's a piece of shit.

>>76810802
They hate us because they ain't us

>>76782193
The point is you are being treated like a player in a Jigsaw trap and come out a changed person.

>>76811632
>Selen, I want to play a game. Spending your life trying to do all on your own out of mistrust towards others and falling into a constant state of self pity is a illness for which you attempted to find cure with negligible results.

>>76782193
Being on the winning team

>>76811510
he regrets it deep down, he and selen were good friends. and selen is a special needs person, so the black stream was bad if you look at it in one angle, but vox has already told kindreds to not attack dokibird's channel and majority followed, meanwhile you can still see angry comments from dragoons on vox's last five vods. obsessed losers, vox has already pulled himself out of sajam's slam to let your make-a-wish oshi enters the tournament without awkwardness and you still dares to point knives at the man who has a heart disease and mental health issues himself.

>>76811419
>hes recovering from a heart disease
Oh my god, he finally grew a conscience? Great! Now hopefully he'll Okuruma himself out of guilt.

>>76811419
This is a lie. Cant have heart issues if you are a heartless bastard.

The day one of the NijiENmales gets worse numbers than this guy is the day you know it's totally over for them.

>>76811851
>he regrets it deep down,
Yeah, because he started losing numbers.
> selen were good friends
Good enough friends to put out a fucking hit piece on someone who attempted suicide?
>and selen is a special needs person
She is not, as shown by her behavior both inside Nijisanji for years and her conduct after leaving. Nijisanji is just THAT FUCKING BAD.
> vox has already told kindreds to not attack dokibird's channel and majority followed,
They did not. Instead they spent the next several months creating this insane theories about how she's a schizophrenic BPD psychopath which you're STILL fucking citing.
> meanwhile you can still see angry comments from dragoons on vox's last five vods. obsessed losers,
lol. Dragoons don't give a shit about vox. Nobody even wants to see that piece of shit ever again after the crap he pulled. Anybody retarded enough to send him hate comments to boost him in the algorithm either isn't a dragoon or is just a betrayed ex-niji. Guess it's not so fun when the shoe's on the other foot.
>pulled himself out of sajam's slam to let your make-a-wish oshi enters the tournament without awkwardness
The tournament was North America only. Vox would never have been allowed to participate. Vivi and Rose however?
>you still dares to point knives at the man who has a heart disease and mental health issues himself.
once again a fucking HIT PIECE VIDEO TO ATTACK A WOMAN LIVE ON CAMERA. You cannot defend this. They fucking delayed the video to start exactly with her neopets stream and you fucking know it. Their goal was clearly to weaponize the audience and then send them over to harass Doki into fucking up on camera.

The man is indefensible. No sane, empathetic human being would have agreed to that fucking stream.

>>76811419
>heart-related pains
apparently his conscience lives in his heart

>>76812086
Bro, they're defending Vox. There's brick walls with higher IQ out there. I wouldn't even bother.

>>76812086
Don't bother. Vox defenders would literally and unironically kill to defend him. You will never sway these idiots.

>>76811133
>27k usd superchats from april to today,
That's only 50 dollars more than Bongland's minimum weekly wage after the 2% cut.

I repeat, from the 8 weeks between the start of April to the end of May, Vox Akuma has made less than a teenaged burger flipper in Liverpool does in a single week.

>>76812219
Oh gosh I'm so sorry to Mister Coomer, I made a typo.
>Vox Akuma has made (SLIGHTLY MORE) than a teenaged burger flipper in Liverpool does in a single week.

>>76811851
>he regrets it deep down
>tells deranged fans to "keep fighting the good fight" knowing how toxic they are towards females
>case in point: the reimu situation
you tell me, dyrb he genuinely regrets anything

>>76812293
He regrets not being popular enough to be able to successfully Zaion her, that's really it. Imagining how he's seething every single night knowing his 3view status is a hell of his own making simply makes me diamonds, hopefully he stays in that shithole and never inclines for the next 5 years.

>>76788277
>Comparing Vox to HoloID
>He is still making less money after all the cuts and taxes

>>76812086
>losing numbers.
yeah of course his numbers is not as good like in 2022, but hes doing fine. most of the niji jp livers are not even on vox's level lol, only team B livers on a good day and the niji elite team A livers are capable of defeating him.
>Good enough friends to put out a hit piece on someone who attempted suicide?
en management pulled vox into the video by telling him that selen had apparently wiretapped him on a studio recording. he was only out to defend himself against selen's crime, which dokibird immediately apologizes after realising it got leaked.
>The tournament was North America only. Vox would never have been allowed to participate. Vivi and Rose however?
nah, sajam said he accepted the nijisanji livers. vox included, but all of them pulled out. due to the drama definitely, dokibird and nijisanji will never be in an event together. which is great, i dont want her menhera disease near any niji livers and infect them too.
>The man is indefensible. No sane, empathetic human being would have agreed to that stream.
vox makes mistakes, but he also forgives others who do wrong to him. he deserves forgiveness, hes not a criminal and only hated on vt because hes a male vtuber.

>>76811851
>he regrets it deep down
He only regrets that he couldn't get away with it.

>>76812572
hey sister why didn't you reply to >>76788716 >>76812219 or>>76812537

>>76812572
>en management pulled vox into the video by telling him that selen had apparently wiretapped him on a studio recording. he was only out to defend himself against selen's crime, which dokibird immediately apologizes after realising it got leaked.
>crime
LMAO
He wasn't trying to defend himself, he went out there and harassed a suicidal person just because they asked him to do it. He is a piece of shit.

Wait you're telling me Niji has a proper gfe streamer now?
I might have to start watching Niji...

>>76812572
>en management pulled vox into the video by telling him that selen had apparently wiretapped him on a studio recording. he was only out to defend himself against selen's crime, which dokibird immediately apologizes after realising it got leaked.

So your defense is Vox is a fucking dumbass dickrider that does what Nijisanji wants without thinking for himself?

Not as good of an argument as you think it is is sister.

Also there was no crime committed.

>>76812572
>most of the niji jp livers are not even on vox's level lol
https://vrabi.net/daily/2024-05-22
Click Nijisanji and Nijisanji EN, tell me what number you see him at and what number the lists ends at when you exclude EN's. I'll give you a hint: it's not "most".

>>76812572
>vox makes mistakes, but he also forgives others who do wrong to him. he deserves forgiveness, hes not a criminal and only hated on vt because hes a male vtuber.
Once again, black fucking stream video is a pretty justified reason to completely hate him.
Also, Sajam never mentioned Vox and clearly wouldn't have allowed him just due to the tournament requiring netplay and not wanting to deal with that lag. He had to let down other euros too because of it.
I don't know where the fuck you're getting all this wiretap espionage bullshit from. It was a fucking leftover recording from a test that was not going to be used against him.

>>76812572
>vox makes mistakes, but he also forgives others who do wrong to him. he deserves forgiveness, hes not a criminal and only hated on vt because hes a male vtuber.
I hope you are a shitposter and not a genuine sister

>>76812734
No, her defense is reciting things that didn't happen
>vox got forced into it (no proof beyond delusions)
>doki apologized for wiretapping specifically (she did neither of those things)
>doki committed a crime (sister's committing a crime now too under Article 230-1 of the japanese criminal code then)
>>76812850
Nah kindred are impossibly insane. This specific one's been going at it for a while.

>>76812770
lol, most of the niji jp livers struggles to get supas and vox is the third highest superchatted liver on the all time count, behind fuwa and vamp kuzu, higher than kanae.
>>76812850
vox is a forgiving person, cant say the same for dokibird.
https://files.catbox.moe/f1o2g4.mp3

>>76812999
>vamp kuzu

>>76782193
The name still has lots of recognition. If someone goes into it expecting to farm as much of a fanbase as they can for a year or two before getting out then there's plenty of value. You know, treat Niji the same way they treat their organs. The trap is getting suckered into the "nijfamily" bullshit or paying for anything out of pocket.

>>76812999
>supas
Who said supas? Anon said numbers, you replied directly to it being numbers, now answer the question and give me the number he's at relative to JP on that list and tell me if he has "more viewers than most of JP". C'mon faggot, I ain't got all nigth.

>>76812999
>>76813047
The fuck is vamp kuzu?
Is this just machine translated?
Also considering Doki's the only one who's never attacked Nijisanji or mentioned it a single time, I'm pretty sure she's the forgiving one.

>>76812999
>vamp kuzu
Post skin.

>>76812999
> vamp kuzu
oh my fucking god, you are the real deal

>>76812999
My favorite niji liver is ZulmIhP1nlMOT5y.

>>76813166
Wtf is she okay

>>76813220
No she snapped her neck dude, she's dead.

>>76813166
So did she flip her way to victory in that doki event.

>>76782193
Fast scholarship
Stepping stone to next stage
EN = gathering sub
JP = next step artist world

>>76785982
youre right, it was more entertaining when she got exposed as a tekken fraud. my oshi could never

>>76786874
You do not have to spend a ton of money to be in niji
Some of the talents just did PowerPoints
The fact that people are still paying for debut animations and other frills after Selen is baffling

>>76782193
Simple, to join vshojo

>>76814581
Hell, after Zaion.
She basically crippled her finances because of being unable to make up the money she spent on her debut.

>>76814581
I mean, management isn't telling them to spend money on lore videos. And really the last person to spend money on a lore video was Kunai, before any of the Selen stuff happened.
The new wave spent very little money on their debuts. Klara drew and animated her debut video while doing all the voice acting. Twisty simply made a rpgmaker game for her debut. They put that money into song covers instead of a dumb fancy lore video.

>>76814617
If there's one thing that can't be questioned, it's the amount of effort she put into Zaion. Her assets were all pretty high quality and she pulled out all the stops even for her debut by looping Merry in for her lore and her wave's lore

>>76814729
>I mean, management isn't telling them to spend money on lore videos
It's not like management is doing ANYTHING to promote the new waves. The talents need to give the best first impression they can, and a lore video is a good way of doing that.

>comparing Vox, the top NijiEN dog, to HoloID
>claiming Subway sandwiches to be a rich person’s food
What a thread

>>76814855
Lore videos give very little first impression. I'm kinda tired of vtubers doing the expensive lore videos that tell you nothing about the streamer desu. Much prefer soulful short intros like Pomu's lore video. It was like 2 minutes of silly hand drawn art and then she was immediately showing you why you should watch her with a debut karaoke. Feels like a lot of vtubers just do the long ass lore video to pad out their debut so they don't have to talk as much. And then they still go over-time anyway.

>>76814958
Nah, they are a good way of promoting yourself if you invest enough money on them. Most of the fans just want some pretty animation to look at.

>>76814581
All of the PixelLink Gen 2 debuts had life videos, but they were normal and not distracting from the rest of the debut. Meanwhile the company paid for a really high quality PV for the new gen and helped hype them up. I don't really see the cheapskates at Anycolor attracting anyone to future auditions with small corpos like that running circles around them, especially when the CCV at Niji is so shit.

>>7681607
>life videos
lore

>>76811851
The only person regretting it is Doki as her BPD got her fired. You can tell she really cared about being Selen since she's copy and pasting everything from Niji instead of doing anything new

>>76814855
both paypigs and greys forget their oshis lore from debut after 10 days tops
instead of lore they could make shit like that meme short song of millie's lore or the lockpick part from ruby's debut which is much more memorable AND cheaper
having something memorable worths more than spending 2k+ just to show you are a doggirl born in space

>>76813074
sorry for late reply anon, but heres vox against three jp livers, one is in the niji elite team and two are part of the B team. and they all have massively lower superchats earnings than vox, the views difference is not even that huge.

>>76816638
ars has 64% (sixty four percent) more views than pube beard man and its not even that huge according to you?

>ctrl+f Vox
>44 results
My fucking god anon, when people says "Nijisanj" it's not about a singular fucking person called "VOX AKUMA" what about the fucking rest? The latest wave of livers??

>>76782193
To have sex with Elira and Millie

>>76816927
>Noooo don't focus on the actual successful Niji members. Why don't you look at the members who just got there instead?
I thought Nijisanji EN was dead though? Why would it matter who you look at if it's supposed to be dead?

>>76817016
>>Noooo don't focus on the actual successful Niji members. Why don't you look at the members who just got there instead?
Because when you want to join something, you ask the latest group of people who has joined and notthe golden goose that get lucky???

>>76782193
>be japanese corporation
>have amazing money making idea
>dont understand the concept of diversification
>enforce overhiring for no fucking reason, slowly diluting salary across employees
>let your best selling product go stale and do nothing about it
Japanese corpos never fail to get lazy and let their companies slowly die. Japanese CEOs should step down once they successfully launch a service or product and then let westerners with proper business intuition take care of the company development and diversification.

>>76816902
i mean, yeah its still good for vox not being completely left behind in the mud like if we were to compare him with any of the hololive elites : aqua, pekora, marine or niji's vampire boy. there is a gap, but vox will be fine if he gets mixed into niji jp if en gets folded by the boss. people like vivi and kunai though. i feel sorry for them, but their numbers need to improve for their own sakes and whining on socmed is not the way to go.

>>76817232
But I thought NijiEN was dying? What golden goose do they still have? And who talked about joining in the first place?

>>76816927
>>76817016
Sisters as you can see are ready and willing to slash and burn everything else as long as you don't take Luxiem from them. They don't care about the new wave, they're just thuggin it out til Luxiem 3D, everyone else might as well graduate

>>76817342
>But I thought NijiEN was dying? What golden goose do they still have?
Uhm yeah? Everything it's declining, their subs, losing ccv, it's that not dying idk what is? And yeah Luxiem is literally their golden goose here? Fuckers get invited by Riku himself to eat on that fancy restaurant, no?
>And who talked about joining in the first place?
Literally the whole point of this thread? OP fucking ask?

>>76782193
They're already old and busted, we need a new gen ASAP Riku.

>>76788277
That's Riku's paycheck, he'll be lucky to afford a hot meal each day with his cut.

>>76817509
>ESL poster
Kek. Their CCV are declining? But not their VOD views. Sub count literally does not matter. Their superchats remain. Their memberships remain and their collaborations remain. The majority of the EN members also met Riku Tazumi so I don't see what point you're making.

>>76817613
I too wish I had the honor of standing in front of maozedong's embalmed body and reciting my communist prayer

>>76812219
The 2% cut only applies to merch no? (which is even more fucked up than taking the supas)
Does Riku actually takes 98% of everything they make?

>>76817613
Just trying to have a conversation with that thick skull of yours but I guess not, Nijisanji English is not dying at all I guess, you're right. Everything it's fine because the top dogs are doing "fine". Case fucking closed.

>>76817728
Correct, the people that bring in money continue to bring in money. You can now seethe about the NBA collab

>>76817686
Oh Riku Tazumi, who art in anycolor
Holo not be thy name
give us this day our daily 2% cut

>>76817774
>You can now seethe about the NBA collab
I don't even watch them, why would I seethe about it?

>>76817613
>Sub count literally does not matter
Subs actually do matter for the talent personal gain (pay time) and for the corpo, like shilling merch every time they hit a certain milestones?

>>76788277
I hate Vox and Niji as much anyone here but these are some giga cope replies. ID makes little money, (at least compared to western vtubers) Vox made a ton of money during his peak because fujos wallets are big as themselves.

>>76818048
YouTube doesn't pay per subs. Anycolor can put out merch any time. It's only there to look good for the camera basically. Subs genuinely mean nothing to a YouTube channel

>>76817774
Seethe about Niji paying the NBA?

>>76816429
You don't get it, the lore doesn't matter one bit. It's just an excuse to have a cool looking animation and some fanart running from the start.

>>76819469
Lore is something to fall back on in the first couple months of awkward amateur streaming since it's something to reference for conversation that is both fanservicey and easy to be consistent with.
You can choose whether or not to drop it later or not.

>>76783407
You're right, in the new Niji environment this are middle of the pack CCV, so they're doing as well as could be expected. This is fine for the vtubers but is very bad for the branch.

>>76783407
>Being 3views two days after debut is good actually

>>76788644
Not anymore lmao

>>76788277
>you're comparing the number one NijiEN with Id
>you are comparing him with Kobo who is known to have low SC
>you are comparing Vox's total SC to Kobo's SC from non Id viewers since they use a different donation platform in Indonesia
It's amazing that sisters are so retarded they are indistinguishable from Niki haters false flagging to make them look stupid

>>76821954
if they were intelligent they wouldn't be nijisisters

>>76784571
Top nijien males are below HoloID level now
GRIM

>>76782193
SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE

>>76812219
>Thinks the two percent rrat applies to all earnings
You're a retard

>>76782193
If you are a literal who is still pretty much worth it. If you are an /asp/ it wuould still be dumb to not apply.

>>76824663
cope

>>76783959
>pretty good streamer
>twisty
Just no, ironically her being a 3views is an actual improvement

>>76788277
>get mogged in subs
>get mogged in total views as well as views per day
>get mogged in videos uploaded per week and almost got caught in total videos uploaded
Also the money reseived via streamlabs doesn't show btw

>>76782193
The orgies are top notch.

>>76782193
I have no idea who any of these people are.

>>76782193
Pussy and/or cock