/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76766661
>we are considering

>>76766768
>we are graduating

>>76766661
>official cover letter:
>we are graduating
its so fucking over bros...

>>76766768
That's just CYA business speak. It's illegal for them to directly say they are going to do something and then not do it. So even for definite plans, they have to use that phrasing.

>>76766661
Finally, a new reason to anti Myth

>>76766858
>from Phase

>>76766858
which is different from "we have graduated"

>>76766661
Thats a good thing ironically the more talent the less they'll have to pay. Holoen already peaked in en and eops are a dying breed just look at that stream with nerissa begging for subs and embarrassing herself. Jop are the ones that run the show. Jp is where the real cdgct is at.

>>76766661
That's not actually what it says. It just means they'll focus the business on maximizing the returns from their current roster. When that starts to level off, then they might reconsider expanding with more. But by that time, who knows what the industry landscape will look like.

>>76766661
Man, Mel really fucked up her golden ticket. 2024 seems to be the year of picking up the lowest performers and giving them more opportunities

>>76767090
Ah, yes, the real VCRshit only happens with people like Matsuri.

>>76767100
is this why ollie is getting featured on the hologra so often?

>>76766661
>confirmed

>>76767163
He says as nerissa and kaela collabs with a troon from vshojo.

>>76766661
so HoloEN is just dead? once Advent stops streaming after they dont have to anymore, like the previous gens, holoEN is just dead?
new gens were the only thing keeping holoEN alive

>>76767090
>The english market, which is many, many times larger than the Japanese market, and has shown consistent growth, is already fully tapped out and should be abandoned
You are a retarded person and should never be allowed to touch money.

>>76766661
Can Myth go into a more explicit half-retired state so we can get a gen4 that actually cares?

>>76767100
They probably fired her to clear room

There, bought you a new gen.

>>76767090
Wanna explain all that sub begging shit from regloss last month? Never give advice about money again holy shit, Yen is literally so fucking weak right now.

>>76767278
The same market who introduced the concept of deaubachery to jp. Holo jp feels like watching anime while holo en feels like I'm watching the jersey shore sometimes something they have in common with nijien.

So much illiterate people in this thread.

>>76767266
If Cover's plan works out they'll all basically be mascot characters like Gura, so they'll still be popular even if they only stream occasionally.

>>76766661
>we are graduating from a phase
>expanding the scale of revenue ... by expanding the degree of recognition
goddamn Japanese business eigo will never not make me KEK
On a more serious note, I think they'll consider changing it for some time before switching back over (although more realistically, they'll do it in tandem), while the timescale of this phase is ambiguous, it probably won't be so long that the old ones start retiring towards the end of it.

>>76767450
>So much illiterate

>>76767450
Says the unironic esl.

>>76767090
I wouldn't quite say that, rather the EN/EOP audience has shifted partially away from Hololive over the years.

>>76767360
Imagine how many EN gens could be added if you scrapped the defunct/rarely streaming members.

>>76767450
bait

>>76766661
didn't think I'd be able to break out this old image from 2020

>>76767360
Haachama is unironically less relevant than Aki these days.

>>76767457
Streamers make money, but popular characters make a lot MORE money. The ultimate goal of any agency is to advance from streams to merch and brand deals. They want Gura on your McDonald's bags.

>>76767423
Oh it's just bait kek. Have a (You) though, I'm feeling kind.

>>76767360
>Aki
I will murder you

>>76766661
Damn, so advent is the last en gen?

>>76767360
You haven't been paying attention for the past year if you are choosing Haachama over Aki. This ain't 2020/2021.

>>76767560
Genuine question, but did Aki randomly blow up or what exactly happened? I remember she used to get super low views and not many people talked about her, then she started getting 30k view streams overnight and people were making accusations of viewbots. Don't watch her enough to know what exactly caused that surge.

>>76767609
I can could get gura branded nuggies I would die happy

>>76767794
Not necessarily.

In the report, it is stated that several new VTuber units are scheduled to debut within this year. It seems like it will be some time in the future before the expansion stops. I don't know if it's men or women who debut most, or in which region.

>>76767794
They should retire most of myth and by that I mean gawr gura.

>>76767971
She joined VCR ARK and with her reputation quickly became one of the main, if not the central protagonist with all the benefits of viewers tuning in to her PoV. While the buff has gradually dwindled as most tourists departed, the residual has kept has on the whole doubled her audience average over what it used to be before she joined VCR events.

There's one more EN gen in the works. Lots of large indie graduations at the beginning of the year, all unaccounted for except for one who backed out and ungraduated.

>>76767266
all I get from this is "it's about damn time we pumped some real amount of money into Gura" and that's good news
name an EN better than Gura, you can't

>>76766661
where did you find this?

>>76767266
HoloEN has the worst work ethics among all branches.

>>76767278
The English market for vtubers is not the same thing as the sum population of English speakers. It's a smaller market than the Japanese one.

>>76766661
Then I will start to anti Ame and Kronii in particular until they graduate and make room for better talents.

>>76766661
Any talent who streamed less than Ame in 2024 should graduate, except for Gura

>>76766661
Well, based on the recent lackluster performances of new waves across the industry, it's only natural they've come to this conclusion, better focus on the talents you already have and only debut more when replenishment is needed.

>>76768384
Can anyone post that statistic between JP & EN on growth, merch sales and shit like that? Let's try to compare that.

It's at a pretty nice number, if even a bit too large. Though it's going to be sad when they start retiring and when things start to inevitably contract, I think people will leave if they brush up against the japanese style of business on the EN side.

>>76768259
Pretty impressive. Her stuff was never really my style, but I like seeing the old guard getting more recognition lately, especially AZKi finally getting some love from the actual Hololive fanbase. It's a shame that the Mel situation happened like it did, otherwise this probably would have been her year for a boost. Hopefully Roboco and Sora get a big boost next.

>>76766661
>>76767794
They are still going to have en4 as they advertised auditions right after advent. After that, possibly closing up shop for a while. The homos and the girls might cap off with 4 gens. EN doesn't have as big an audience as JP so they need to focus on the people they have now.

>>76766661
So, ID4 need someone from HololiveID graduate? which one from Area15 and Holoro

>>76767090
>Jp is where the real cdgct is at.
>>La+ 3D live

>>76767278
Its less that EN is tapped and more that releasing more Councils and Advents isnt the answer. They shouldnt bother with another EN gen until they can make it JP3.

>>76766661
they really like the word "expansion"

>>76768698
Everyone is just like La+. Even Pekora is part of the VCR chad gangbangs.

robbed from anon in some other thread
THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS BELOW
SCROLL LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT


TL;DR at the bottom. I'm of two minds about this. First things first though, let me throw rikus trust-funded flunkees school project in the trash. Nobody there has a brain cell to even make decisions, and I 100% believe they will auto-pilot that shit until the day the corpo crashes and riku finds his next toy to ignore.
But as for real vtubing, Yagoo is wrong. But depending on what he does, he might end up realizing that himself.
Anybody who isn't a friendless, isolated NEET and has been here since COVID knows people that have drifted away from or dropped off from vtubing. Anybody who got sucked into the magic at any point in the past probably knows that a good number of people left after getting burned. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but if your sample size is large enough you probably knew some people who you think probably didn't deserve to get burned like they did. Though obviously there are plenty who did it to themselves.
It doesn't take a genius to understand that this hobby has a higher than average chance of burning invested fans. The chance of being burnt increases with investment. This is true for ALL hobbies, of course, but in vtubing, the feelings and relationships and interdependencies that risk factors spawn from are simultaneously the draw and cause for invested fans to become invested in the first place.
This is a feature and not a bug. It's not even something that can be "fixed". Though maybe I should be specific, the statement is not applicable to non-JP side vtubing.
And he doesn't need to or have to care about non-JP side vtubing. He's a CEO, and he's doing fucking amazing as is and has no reason to try to make any desperate pulls.
But that doesn't change the point of my post; the idea that vtuber growth is stagnant, truly oversaturated, and mostly tapped for growth is wrong. It's wrong for the EN side specifically; regardless of whether you think it matters or not, it doesn't change the fact that it exists, and so does a lot of potential future growth. ESPECIALLY when it comes to revenue in the form of consumer willingness to spend. And there have been occasional, rare signs proving that very fact, here and there.
But the high growth potential on this side isn't something that stems from new potential viewers, at least not primarily. It stems from luring back people who got burned. It is easier to fall back into an old pattern even if it ended badly; at the moment, any vtubers who have ended up capitalizing on capturing those ex-invested viewers did so by chance instead of intent. And it worked well for them; though it was doubtful, they realized what happened. I only do because of my awful habit of reading chat chronically during streams, names, and all, along with my useless talent of remembering a name for fucking eternity even if I've only seen it a few times.
But if somebody could figure out the secret formula for unburning those burned viewers and began doing so in a targeted, deliberate, and even mildly eye-catching way, they would probably be able to steadily draw in a literal, more than 5-year-long chain of burned viewers that are out there. If they really focused, it wouldn't even be that hard to incline; old viewers who got burned are almost definitely going to be closer together in terms of what the Youtube algorithm thinks, and therefore getting old viewers means spiking chances of other old viewers getting a recommendation for a stream, and so on...
All you have to do is figure out how to convince people who hurt enough to fuck off to give it a look and make sure what they see makes them feel like it won't happen this time. I'm not so stupid to just act like there's no way to do it, because, of course, there is probably SOME way. I'm definitely not smart enough to have a clue about what it is, and more importantly, I don't think the people who run the industry are smart enough to think of it either, and that's disregarding whether or not they would even care to try even if they were.

TL;DR: There is a very large pool of accessible potential growth in the number of medium/high-spending dedicated viewers, and because of the size of the EN scene, that pool is very large in terms of proportionality to the total active viewerbase in comparison to Japan's scene. That pool is composed of viewers who have been burned by a vtub/er/ers/ing company.

Regardless of personal opinions people might have about the EN scene specifically, I am merely stating that it is a fact that there is absolutely a prospective path to grow (or re-grow, if you want to call it that) substantial numbers across the board. Of course, that doesn't mean anybody should be compelled to act upon that, even if they could.
I'm saying one thing and one thing only: there IS an avenue for growth left to pursue, and that's just a simple fact.
hit char limit lmao

YOU CAN STOP SCROLLING

>>76768416
NO SPECIAL TREATMENT
NEPOTISM IS FOR NIJI
GRADUATE THE SHARK

>>76766661
I think the sweet spot will be to have one more new gen for EN and ID to have a nice even number of talents for those branches

A year has 52 weeks.
Let's say 6 weeks of vacation which is generous.
So 46 work weeks. Let's take off another 6 for random stuff or sickness or being busy with this or that, moving places, whatnot.

In the 40 weeks that remain it's reasonable to expect them to stream at least 10 hours per week.
That's 400 hours per year.

Graduate everyone that averages under 400h/year

>>76768693
If I could choose 3 to graduate from ID based on personal taste, it'd be Kobo, Ollie, and Iofi (still like Iofi though). If they had to fire 3 based on results to make room for a new gen, then they'd probably choose Ollie, Iofi, and Reine.

>>76766661
Good.

>>76768643
I'm almost certain Mel was thinking along the same lines, she was lining up a massive monthly cover song project with members of the other branches of Hololive and emphasized there would be surprises with ones she had never done anything with before. She also joined VCRGTA, possibly after seeing the boost Aki received from VCRARK a couple months prior. She was gearing up to make a big push to breakthrough...and it all crumbled like dust in the wind.

>>76768924
Good. Better gone than seeing her become VCR trash like Aki.

so the twitch chuubas will rule the english-speaking world

Time to make Kiara a full-time manager, so people with actual talent get the chance.

>>76767090
The EN scene is still growing believe it or not, just not with hololive.

>>76768799
Gura will be the last holoen standing mark my words. Where else is she going get this kind money by doing almost next to nothing?

>>76766768
>>76766858
THEY ARE

>>76769119
hahahahahahahaha no
if she was in charge she'd hire garbage like enna or millie or veibae etc.

>>76769090
Aki is happier and more popular than ever before, cope and seethe nigger

>>76769156
>The EN scene is still growing
Yeah, because Gura didn't just mog the entire indie scene with a low tier stream and even then she's not even top 5 if you take the JP side into account. EN gets what they deserve really.

>>76769220
Managers don't hire people anon... they're just assistants

>>76769220
Are tou kidding? The holoen audience would fucking love vei.

>>76769220
That's talent relations, anon. Managers are just tardwranglers.

>>76769265
She makes absolute shit in money though. VCR tourists might watch her to see her flirt with male ecelebs but they sure dont buy her merch or send her gachi SCs.

>>76769309
Maybe you, tourist.
I watch hololive to get away from absolute trash like that.

>>76767278
>The english market, which is many, many times larger than the Japanese market
? retard

>>76768865
>Kobo, Ollie
Why would you graduate your best talents?

>>76766661
wow, so it's possible that yagoo doesn't just uhhhh like homos... but he... just wanted to have enough homo gens before moving on with this next phase ?

>>76769098
You would be surprised. If this wasn't a catalog thread I'd mention more info, but there's some interesting stuff happening on the youtube sixe of things nowdays and the ones that are benefitting the most are exactly the ones that dont act like twitch whores. I am tentatively hopeful fof now. Tsitch numbers ard funny numbers anyway, things aren't as tilted towards Twitch outside Hololive as people think. I even recorded some proof of this.

>>76769276
doki did 100k+ on her debut and has already more subs than most of advent, hololive is just lame now. No one streams, fake fan appreciation or downright hate and the company is trying to sell me something every fucking week.

>>76766661
They say in the same report they are debuting some this year though?

>>76769090
If you have been aware NotMel's follows the past couple months, there is a non-zero chance that you haven't seen the last of her on VCR.

>>76766661
I'm not surprised that Cover is going to start releasing gens more separated one from another. Can you even imagine Hololive with 100+ members? Maybe in 5 or more years, but expanding the roster so aggresively will just end with Hololive running into the same problems Nijisanji has.

>>76769731
>doki did 100k+ on her debut
You're just being disingenuous, that was because of the massive drama shitstorm that was going on at the time. Most of the people there were just hoping she was going to shit talk Niji. I don't dislike Doki, but don't argue like a faggot

>>76769731
Yeah and now Doki's normal streams are like what, 5k ccv and going down each week?

>>76767278
The ''English market'' does not mean
>everyone that speaks english
you absolute retard

>>76769922
doki has a bigger impact on the vtubing scene than hololive en.

>>76767423
HOLOEN and HOLOID are streamers
HOLOJP are vtubers

Lets just hope EN and ID dont taint JP even more than they already have.

>>76770007
ogey retard, go watch your vshojos and men, clearly it's the kind of circles you enjoy

>>76766661
What about this from the same QA?

>>76770166
>i-i-i-i'm AFRAID OF MEEEEEEEEN
Doki put more eyes on holostars than hololive management has ever done.

>>76770293
I don't even want them to exist, so... oh no?
Take them with you faggot

This thread is just sad, showcasing how fucking retarded 99% of people in this board truly are. It's seriously concerning.

>>76770021
Didn't Patra literally try to nepotism her way unprompted into getting into a sleepover so that she could sexually harass fuwamoco?

>>76766661
DECELERATE

>>76770489
don't think about this too hard

>>76770489
Most non-retards wouldn't be wasting their time in a catalog thread.

>>76767266
>once Advent stops streaming after they dont have to anymore
>once
You say this with such certainty that I can tell you don't watch any of them. Save for the dogs (who are clearly bent out of shape about something and having a rough time of it w/ management), all of them are managing to stream on par with, or more than, myth and promise while being in Japan practicing for 3D. Biboo went so far as to call out her manager for only letting her stream for one hour the other day. Its clear EN finally found a gen that actually enjoys streaming.

I won't go as far as some and claim that myth and promise should just all graduate, but its clear that advent are just flat out different.

>>76770531
Hot

>>76766661
NIJIGODS ARE GONNA WIN LONG TERM. I FUCKING TOLD YOU FAGS SO! ACCELERATE! ACCELERATE UNTIL 90% OF ACTIVE VTUBERS ON YOUTUBE ARE ALL NIJI LIVERS

>>76770007
I start to understand now why nijinigs wanted to anti Doki so much, her fans are truly the embodiment of libtard

Hololive = Protoss
Nijisanji = Zerg

>>76770842
What do politics even have to do with what that (retarded) anon said?

>>76770293
Exactly this doki treated them with more dignity and respect than cover and its toxic fanbase has. Even the disgusting nijiwhores who have collabed with the girls the e celebs from ID and Japan have been treated with more dignity and respect than them.

>>76770842
And you are a chud holobrony just like the sisters you both are the same

>>76770842
>>76770961
I wonder if this is the same poster. Pretty similar style, or it could just be this is the state of the average /vt/ user.

>>76770904
Corpos bad
queen of indies good

>>76770681
>who are clearly bent out of shape about something and having a rough time of it w/ management
QRD? I haven't been watching them in awhile but back when I was they seemed full of energy and earnest about streaming. I have seen a couple clips of Mococo with a fucked up voice but is there more going on than just sickness?

>>76768313
kaminari clara, easily

>>76770531
that's hot if true, patra is incredibly based

>>76770553
RIKU DON'T LOOK AT THIS POST

>>76771045
>moved to japan oo early and didn't know jackshit so it affeted their streams
>now settled they got sick
>3D debuts recordings right now
>most likely will be in many other HoloJP 3Ds since they always wanted to be idols
>Many Holomems teased that something INCREDIBLY HUGE is being cooked by cover
>Ina said that she will have to be like 1 month in japan in order for the huge thing to happen
There is a lot going on and the puppies are getting carried away, who can blame them tho? they used to be the grimmest of grims and now they got all the oportunities they ever desired witht he people they wanted.

>>76770489
>>76770626
I'd feel more sympathetic about your posts if I didn't expect the reason for them to be something revlving around twitch.
Or it could be about the rsndom SEA jargon i guess

kek Can't wait to see all the "But I thought they said!" posts later this year.

>>76766988
you...you're on to something anon

>>76771054
meh, i’ve follow her three previous incarnations and kinda got tired of her bailing all the time

>>76766661
wait
Does this mean EN used 12 fucking slots for homos?

>>76771596
yes, and increasing activity of existing talent means pushing homocollabs

>>76767266
Mori's break ends today don't worry anon

>>76771596
OP obviously means that there won't be any more girls. You'll get more Homos, 12 is just the beginning.

>>76771596
>slots
you smash retards never grow up huh

EUniggas desintegrating

>>76766661
it's not that surprising. hololive actually considers new steramers an investment and puts support behind them so any new gen requires planning and hiring people as support so there will eventually be diminishing returns.
It's not like niji who hires and then throws them to the wolves with little or no management and support.

>>76767360
kill yourself

So is Hololive goyslop?
>Never innovate
>Whores that don't stream
>Whores that hate their fans
>Whores who collab with males (The whole of regloss except Raden)
>Normalfag whores except for the dogs and Biboo
>Now they're going to dedicate themselves to grift money and do 0 innovation
Grim.

>>76768795
> Anybody who isn't a friendless, isolated NEET
is a tourist who needs to get the fuck away from my hobby

>>76766661
>mint on suicide watch

>>76770007
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Dragoons are cute

>>76771045
They took forever to get an apartment partly because they didn't plan at all, and partly because japan, then they had a menhera moment in a member's stream about doing too much JP streams during golden week, which ended being a non-issue (and one of their best weeks in months), then they got sick, still decided to push themselves, got chewed out by management for not being in good shape for a live event appearance, and now seem to be implying they can only do one short stream a week for the foreseeable future due to both their own commitments and management restrictions, and aren't too happy about it, and aren't even appearing much in the various off-collabs with the rest of advent.

>>76766661
there will be one gen more deputing before thay get stagnant for while

>>76772053
wow a newfag watched a couple debuts last year and then decided to anti the rest of the organization. Be less transparent

>>76766661
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPOOOOOPPPPPOOOO WHAY ABOUT POMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>76772053
Idol company
Go watch something else if you’re interested in watching women be bad at videogames all day

>>76772103
holy shit someone read that?

>>76772249
>anti the rest of the organization
Nah. I have nothing against Hololive.
But they going the way of EA/Ubisoft of making the blandest stuff available is worrying.

>>76772332
No I stopped reading at that line

>>76767090
/jp/ niggas are so delusional lmao
JP is infinitely less 'CGDCT' than EN, they collab with males all the fucking time
meanwhile in EN you have Advent which is peak CGDCT

not to mention JP has all the worst most controversial holos that cause drama like Rushia and Laplus - EN are legitimately more reliable and less menhera than JP

>>76772349
As long as they stay out of Blackrock's searchlight they should be fine
also, >>>/v/

>>76769309
No Vei or Dokiturd, not even Pomu. Leave all those drama magnets and diarrhea on Twitch.

>>76771596
Yeah, I get your concern. 12 is massively lower than the number of girls. There should be MORE HOLOSTARS! WE LOVE CBDCT!

>>76772371
cute girls doing cute things requires cute girls
western whores aren’t cute

>>76772053
we already have corpo goyslop literally called idol and it's graduated people for worse reasons than anyhing holo has ever done like being a drug addicted whore and being groomed by mods.
I would include niji but they once hired a literal rapist who was targeting the female streamers.

I honestly think EN is pretty much carried by the Hololive name at this point because outside of Fauna and Biboo everyone kind of blows
Ina and Mori can make some nice art and music, Nerissa and Mumei are good singers, but none of them are actually fun to watch and it doesn't help that any actual criticism gets blown off as the ranting of butthurt antis and Nijiniggers

>>76772668
/board

>>76770243
A Unit is not a new Generation. A Unit is when they get together and publish songs.

Honestly I think at this point I don't care about CGDCT or CBDCT, I just want GDFT or BDFT and I have no issue with GBDFTT. I just want funny moments, I don't care much about cuteness.

>>76772975
Preach, brother.

>>76772975
You're watching the wrong corpo, then

>>76769309
I cannot imagine a popular vtuber less suited for Hololive than Vei.

>>76767609
I also want Gura on my McDonalds bag

>>76771398

>>76772449
>JP has holos like Laplus and Matsuri (who roleplayed sex with a male on stream)
>but it's EN who are the whores by default purely because of where they geographically live
this is exactly what I mean about /jp/ niggas being delusional
you're just a retard Ken-sama with an asian fetish; your oshis could literally be getting fucked on stream and you'd still be prattling on about how ackshually it's EN who are the whores like a fucking retard

JP had Rushia, has Matsuri, has Laplus and some of them are not even cute at all like Pekora (also a male collaber) and her disgusting nasally voice
EN meanwhile has clearly cute girls like Biboo or Mumei; the quality difference isn't even close if you're looking for CGDCT

>>76773675
I can think of about a dozen and theyre all in EN anyway. Everything /vt/ hololive EN fans say they want is the exact opposite of what kind of vtuber they actually like.

EN faggots really are the biggest holo antis despite preaching "unity" for years.

kek

>>76767278
myth was lightning in a bottle and two out of five of their members are consistently getting bigger and better opportunities to stay super popular, council had a rough start but they managed to keep themselves afloat and advent is just bau-bau. What cover's trying to do is get an english version of JP's 3rd gen.

>>76774237
>advent is just bau-bau
Anonchama...

>>76772975
>i just want le epic unhinged chaotic moments i could get from watching any other streamer or let's play channel
find a different hobby

>>76766661
OH LOOK! Another dumb post, that is being misinterpreted on 4ch... and you guys pretend you are better than reddit or twitter.

- Nowhere here does it say that there would be 'no new gens until old ones retire. It would be a contradiction in the first place, as their business model is in IP, and recognizability is proportional with age. Newwhere IP will never be as valuable as older IP, because older is proven.
- The article says clearly that they moved on from INCREASING REVENUE BY EXPANDING THE ROOSTER. Basically, they are not doing what Niji is doing, or more importantly, what they were doing between 2019 and 2021, when they had debuts every 3-6 months. The goal then was to increase the rooster and cover niches, and that resulted in profit. The more talents, the more fans, more add revenue and so on. But now, Cover is moving from that, and instead is investing more in each IP to increase it recognizability and potential revenue.
- This doesn't mean that there won't be new generations. And this would have been rather clear if you read the whole damn document. In the same Q&A, Cover mentions that they are actually planning several new gens/units in both JP and overseas.
- So yeah, we are definitely going to see EN4 sooner than later, as it is a necessary generation to add to what it is a rather small roster on the EN side. We will likely see a EN5 too, sooner than 2 years, and only after that are they going to slow down. ID4 is likely in the works too, and probably the first new gen we will see. And on JP side, I don't think JP7 is in plan, but instead, we will see at least one new Dev_IS gen like ReGloss, as they need more generations for them to truly become a distinct branch from Hololive.

>>76774040
Why are you even giving that ironic weeb the time of day?
The nifgger will probably gladly defend male collabs and boyfriends to your face even though the actual japanese boards dont really do that and he is a traitor to /hlg/ and thus /jp/ in the first for doing so by forsaking what was a core trsdition and the blood-grudge against the sworn enemies, especially astel and roberu because the nigger spammed him harder than anybody else
He isn't even a last samurai
He is a clueless ronin with dementia and untreated anger problem

>>76766661
fire all homostars now.

>>76766661
Hope a number of EN starts retiring
Looking at Mori and krnoii

>>76774615
Everyone in JP collabs with males and /jp/ defends them while attacking EN by calling them whores.

>>76774746
don’t you know? jp women can’t be whores!

>>76771596
now that you put it like that yes. however their strategy is apparently "instead of admit someone like flayon is never gonna be the next Vox, let's just pretend he can be if we shill him hard enough and press him in everyone's faces enough."

I would have said this is completely fucking retarded but it is possible to be a late bloomer, Azki is living proof of that. However Azki is a kind of special case where for a long time she was officially not a Holo anyway and mostly didn't stream (and that was expected, she was supposed to be a live event type thing as the focus), and then they have continually upgraded her model more and more and importantly, she streams of her own volition many times more than she used to, in order to grow.

Someone like Ame or Kronii is gonna have a tough time growing if they hardly stream and people have a neutral -at best- opinion of them from their various past shenanigans. That's the problem with trying to do this, if their reputation among fans isn't the best it will take A LOT of effort to undo that and if the girl isn't going to put in that effort, it's not gonna get fixed.

>>76766661
long story short
>Shareholder: Accelerate?
>Yagoo: Nope

>>76774746
Yeah, of course they do that NOW. The only ones left there anymore are the equivalent of homeless people who occupied the thread after everyone except roughly 10ish schizos left.
You're there but you will never be FROM there. You reek of homofilth and the sheepposter who wheelbarrowed winningfags shart stream to cow the homospammer is /hlg/. That and konbinii anon, wherever he is now. You are a fake, by every definition.

>>76767006
phase mention, literally rent free fr

ITT: OP can't read and just makes stuff up, retards believe him.

>>76772668
>Fauna
It's funny you talk about boring to watch then cite the most "I'm just here for the paycheck" girl of promise besides kronii.

>>76775336
>You reek of homofilth
I'm not a JP whore. They're the ones who reek of homo cum from all the collabs they keep doing

>>76766661
Good

>>76766661
I believe they mean in the JP side since they have plenty of talents there.
That said EN debuts will probably slow sown, but not stop.

>>76767090
Didn't Fuwamoco just spend an entire week pandering hard and whoring themselves out for JP cock and only gained like 10-20k?

>>76766661

>>76775493
/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76775586
My bad, I skimmed and didn't notice what you were actuqlly trying to say
I still cherish girls like Kanata mind you but there's nothing about whwt Hololive is in thiis shart and eceleb infested SLOP holos are knee deep in now and anybody who defends it is a lordless wretch witbout a soul

>>76775994
Mint...

>>76776127
Kanata associates with all the whores and ignores EN. She is a whore like the rest.

Cover is going to pressure the runts to either get their numbers up or leave and let in fresh blood.

>>76766661
It's kind of sad that anons are so stupid they need a so-called "confirmation" of the obvious. That doesn't mean there won't be new gens, but there is clearly no need to continue hiring people to entertain the current audience that grew bored. As I and others have stated countless times that leaves them with three general options. One, they terminate poorly performing old talents and replace them with new gens. Two, they increase the spending among current fans. Three, they target completely new fans outside of the fandom.
There was never a reality where a business continues to operate by hiring staff because the same old customers are bored every 6-12 months. That's also why they invested in Holostars/Tempus despite the lower numbers.
Get ready for Hololive ReDiversity spinoff branch.

>>76776127
Retards like you realize that they work with males non-stop in the music industry, right?
If anything it's worse that they hide it all behind the scenes rather than being normal people who can play a video game together without having sex.

>>76776270
You do realize that when you push it to the point where you end up excluding not just all of Hololive but also most unicorn friendly non-Hololive vtubers, it becomes obvious that you're LARPing, right?

>>76776270
Retard, by your own logic Biboo and Mumei would be "whores". Do you have autism or someting? You type like it desu

>>76776507
>Biboo and Mumei would be "whores"
Are they not?

>>76776505
>>76776507
Kanata has literally done several male collabs and pretended they were accidents each time.

>>76776540
Not really and anything you "like" is a whore too, why? Because I don't fucking like it.

>>76776461
Why is the comeback always something like
>bro they talk to males non-stop when the stream ends bro
A ridiculous cope to use in order to ignore not even being given the courtesy of being the only guy that gets the focus of her attention in the already limited time you spend together
Nonsense to justify nonsense

>>76776566
>several
>>>>>pretended
homos never update their tricks do they

>>76777031
Yes, several. I can tell that you're a newfag who arrived here sometime after 2022 because you think that the minecraft event was the only time.

>>76776867
You are a nobody, she is not focusing her attention on you no matter what. This is hololive, there are 1000's of other nobodies who are getting more attention than you in every stream.
If you have the mentality that this IS a real relationship, you are pathetic. I don't mind being gachi and WANTING a real romantic relationship with the streamer (I do with my oshi), but this mentality as if you ACTUALLY are in one? That's pathetic.

>>76766661
That's not what they said but go off ESLtard.

>>76766661
did anon read?
means they aren't getting anyone new they're focusing on current talents

>>76777164
You are fucking adorable. Oh great old one, can you please tell me the story of what happened when Kanata was going to be on Suiseis show and there was originally going to be a male there as well?

>>76767278
Retards like you are the ones taking decisions in Niji and that's why Hololive will always be #1.

>>76766661
Reading comprehension 1/100

>>76768924
>>76768643
It was going to be Meru's year. I had a feeling that she'd consider graduating if the year was just stagnation despite her planned efforts, but I didn't believe that would happen.
It was going to be her year dammit.

This is retarded unless an incentive to stream is introduced. NONE of them will graduate after seeing what Ayame started. Gura and the rest of EN just took her formula and perfected it. And now that Haachama is back, Shion wants her turn.
They need to start randomly graduating a holomem from the bottom 5 streamed hours ranking, until all the statistical outliers are dealt with. This will give opportunity to new gens who will actually stream, and get rid of the lazy whores who only come back to stream when they need condom money.
Otherwise we won't see a new gen in our lifetime. If they can pull it off (which they probably can because their 'fans' are subhuman simpc*cks), holomem like Ayame and Gura will continue this to their deathbed. Gotta drop the hammer on them at some point or there will never be newblood.

>>76777454
Yeah you really have no idea what I'm talking about and you're just new.
Kanata had a 3D collab with a male celeb.

>>76777896
The lady doth protest too much.

>>76778321
>statistical outliers
>lady
I see you've never been with a woman (female)...

>>76778597
BRB self sabotaging real quick :) I'm sure this will have zero adverse effects!

>>76777179
Black and white portrayals aren't very convincing. This is a board about streamers, watching streams, interacting with them, them interacting with you, and so on and so on. It should be obvious to you if you think for a second why trying to lecture people here about the properties of their hobby in angry false dichotomies is something that smells like a tourist. Trying to scare people into forgetting their own experiences and trying to imply a lack of any nuance at all would only work on somebody who has never watched a stream in their life.
But honestly it's easier for me to answer this shit by saying that yes my oshi is my girlfriend actually, sucks to be you I guess

>>76778032
Wait, if you're going for that, are you the hypnotist oji retard too? kek

>>76769731
>doki did 100k+ on her debut and has already more subs than most of advent, hololive is just lame now. No one streams, fake fan appreciation or downright hate and the company is trying to sell me something every fucking week
you either a retarded sister or an idiot from twitch garbage who is a holo anti,well both are fuckng retarded and thats you.

i dont even want to talk about the detail so that retard like you will be the laughing stock here.

>>76777896
You guys are always so stupid and transparent. You don't think of what would be best for the business or what would result in the best product and content. You only care about the availability of streams like it's a therapy group for you. Streaming plateaued years ago and should start to be phased out unless it can demonstrate a new wave of growth. Instead, the quality of content should be increased beyond "girl that chats" and "girl that plays a game."

>>76778899
your steadfast nature is admirable, volcel. never corrupt thyself, oh pure one.

Is this fanfiction thread for antis?

>>76778924
Playing Uno on stream with a male =/= having sex. That does not make someone a whore.
The mentality of 'the streamer is not focusing on ME' is also broken with ANY collab, or with a game that requires too much of the streamers focus, or any pre-recorded content. It's a made-up argument by the mentally ill with no internally consistent logic.

>>76779202
Not a volcel, I just think your "advice" is retarded.

>>76769731
Dramabird got protest subs and went fully in on attracting dramafans. she's barely seen any growth since and is slipping despite the constant collab/event spam, which is eventually going to dry up.

>>76779041
Why would you ever be ok with some random old man groping your oshi live on stream?
This is exactly what the other anon before me was talking about /jp/ and /hlg/ always excuse all these male collabs JPs do while refusing to watch EN who are actually pure.

>>76779195
and do what? They don't have a stable game release and tv series like pokemon to sell their merch and get sponsorships. They need to stream to raise the visibility of the IP.

>>76774040
fuck you pekora's cute

>>76779195
Businesses are there to provide a service. The streamer industry is about providing content in a live-streamed format. That is the servicr they provide, and are expected to provide. You are a fucking degenerate retard if this simple logic doesn't make sense to you. Tourists like you who don't watch streams but act like you're fans are ruining vtubing, and you deserve to starve to death.

>>76774614
>INCREASING REVENUE BY EXPANDING THE ROOSTER
Hololive definitely inflates my cock

>>76766661
This thread smells

>>76772668
>actual criticism
what criticism? that your subjective opinion about boring? i dont like watching nerissa and shiori, not because they are "boring", but because their personality/character and their content are just not my thing, but for ppl who into that like them and holo is on point with this, nerissa, shiori, biboo, fuwamoco are ALL DIFFERENT for different target audience, this is what holo is, not like niji or other corpo who basically all the same.

>>76779486
prove it (you can't)

>>76776379
This is what should have been happening for years.

>>76775876
10-20k is the highest in EN. The next highest was nerissa at 5k.

with how Regloss flopped it makes sense that they'd be hesitant. but at the current rate of graduation, this means the next gen will be a couple decades out...

>>76777816
Did it ever come out who tricked her out of the company?

This thread is pure cancer.
Dogfuckers seething about EN, schizos saying they hope holos they don't like get fired so they can get shiny new toys,etc
Numberfag shit should be banned outside of /#/

>>76779195
I actually agree with this. I care about Hololive 80% for the music and 20% for the JP TV-style variety programs. Streaming is just boring filler to keep them in people's minds, and those are largely being replaced by shorts now

>>76767090
Yagoo is retarded and can't sell japanese idol shit to the EN audience anymore. He needs to scout a new gen directly from the mental asylum if he's ever going to expand to EN.

>>76780061
Same. I hate the whole parasocial aspect of streaming anyways. Just give me music and an occasional short, that's peak Hololive.

>>76766661
Where is this from

I thought this thread couldn't get any more retarded than it already was, but then new people come in with new (horrible) opinions and taste.

>>76769325
>tardwranglers
>kiara
lmao she got one guy'd from time to time,whining like a bitch shes the one who need tardwrangle the most

>>76771331
There is definitely going to be a major announcement for Ina because she is going to stay in Japan for 6 months. That has to be something unique to her though Cover is also going to announce the next HoloEN concert.

>>76766661
So hololive is following Vshojo's footsteps of talent first priority

>>76779195
>you only care about the availability of streams like it's a therapy group for you
unironically yes and that's what I want it to be
>"girl that chats" and "girl that plays a game."
the best content

>>76780309
If you want gaming pick one of the million non-hololive vtubers for that. Or just a fleshstreamer. Hololive's gimmick is they're idols, and they should focus on that. Don't get pissy just because your oshi can't sing.

>>76767360
>removing Aki
May your head be crushed between her thighs so that you will learn the extent of your foolishness.

>>76780512
>t. ruffian

>>76780524
My oshi is the best singer, I love her personality too, you massive retard.
I watch streams for the streamers personality and humor, not for the game.
But someone shallow like you who is only there to consume content and doesn't care about the person behind the content wouldn't understand that.

>>76766661
We NEED more EN girls because half of the ones we do have don't even stream every week, and the other half stream at weird hours of the days

Maybe the solution is more bilingual gens

>>76780661
>>76767816
>>76767631
>>76767560
kek that the only one anyone's mad about is Aki and no one gives a shit if we scrap Matsuri, Shion, Ayame or Choco

>>76780689
Oh, an unironic gachi. Post oshi coward

>>76780921
What's the point of watching a streamer if you don't enjoy the streamer, just watch a no audio full game let's play on youtube.

>>76775876
if fuwamoco is in holojp they would have been much more successful.

>>76781072
I don't watch vtubers to see them play video games. If I want to see video games being played, I just play video games. The absolute irony of having the VSinger who wasn't even supposed to game as your oshi, tho.

>>76774040
>Mumei
well, she isn't getting railed ON STREAM so that's good.

>>76779832
Regloss flops because they did not label them with blue Doritos. Also everyone can smell that they are pushed to be male accessories so no one wants to buy them.

>>76781480
Are you familiar with "joking"? Do you think either of them was getting off on that? Matsuri's whole schtick is being a degen. Don't act like you're some jilted gachikoi, she doesn't have any and never did

>>76776566
Kanata has never collabed with a male.

>but guys on stream
She didn't collab with them, hololive did
>they were near her
A discord call to a host is not "near"
>but MALES
Nope.

The one time she did intentionally collab with a male it was actually a female and EOPs are too dumb to even google a name.

>>76769309
>>76774125
Uhh... newfag retard?
Veibei tried to collab with Kiara in 2021 and the entire holo EN audience came together and rejected her not only because she was a gross whore that couldn't stop talking about how much cock she rode in-between describing the texture of her period chunk diarrhea casserole, but also because a couple months prior she went on a rant and insulted all the hololive girls and their fans and said they didn't deserve any of their success.

Also, you're completely wrong. The 5 most popular holo ENs are Gura, Mumei, Fauna, Bijou, and FuwaMoco based on average CCV. Not a single one of those is even close to being like Veibei.

>>76766661
graduate the en homos already

>>76781242
I actually don't believe this, their jp isn't as good as you think and they've had plenty opportunities in the JP sphere for over a decade and bore no fruit. The JP audience see them as cute sidecards but they aren't viewed as mainstage worthy.

>>76780256
AZKI become popular by playing the map game not by her several years of singing.

>>76781664
>A discord call to a host is not "near"
It wasn't a discord call. She was literally in the same stream in 3D with a man, retard.

I think anyone reasonable already thought JP shouldn't grow any more until some people leave. They already struggle to get 3D events done and to fit everyone into concerts, and only the most dedicated autists would have any idea what more than 20% of them have been doing recently.
EN and ID still have room to grow though. EN in particular had that grim period of almost no streams in 2022 that wiped out half of their viewership permanently, and even with 3 gens now they have weeks with barely any content. They should have grown faster early on and they still need at least one more gen.
Plus, you know, Europe still exists. It's unironically the largest market for both livestreaming and Japanese media and they've gone 5 years without even trying to touch it. It's weird.

>>76781271
Yeah, and she got screwed over on the music production end, but realized she also loves streaming and 'accidentally' goes over 6 hours on the regular. It's much more entertaining than scripted pre-recorded content like Hologra, which, while it's often funny, doesn't highlight the actual personality of the streamer.
And again, it's not even about the game. I'm never gonna play a Chilla's Art game myself, but I love watching her play one.
The way I see it; if you don't actually care about the personality of the vtuber, you should just go watch anime, play the games yourselves, listen to pop/vocaloid music, etc. There's no point in consuming vtuber content if you don't like the vtubers.

>>76781072
My old let's play no commentary long play channel oshi (Self-made Island) stopped uploading a long time ago... I enjoy Holo because it feels like those old LP channels like Retsupurae and Jon era GG. I still have my oshis in Holo of course and yes more streams from them would be nice but it has been proven that management does not like them streaming when they have big projects in the works or are minutely sick (Which I get). That sucks but it is what it is. Not that I'm saying to not voice an opinion on the thing because that's really the only thing >we have. COVER has money and like any company if they have enough and want to expand they'll have to do things and shift around and take risks, now if it works out or not time will tell. I still think streaming will be important to them it's just that other avenues have surpassed it that they're putting more money towards boosting their talents IPs and opportunities (Things like merch, appearances, 3Dlives, concerts etc) in the hopes of roping in more people that will buy merch and tickets. I am interested to see how they'll actually do that here in the West.

>>76781836
not the person you're talking to but
>an actual dyke being on-stream with a male is still a problem and a threat to unicorns
holy fucking shit m8

>>76780842
Aki earned her place as my oshi, but that doesn't mean I want those others gone.
I still haven't forgiven whoever caused Meru to get fired. Fly high, Banpire.

>>76781955
Oh so male collabs are actually totally ok then?

>>76781866
>Plus, you know, Europe still exists. It's unironically the largest market for
had me in the first half, ngl

>>76767423
>introduced the concept of deaubachery to jp
lol, newfag revisionism

>>76766661
>no new Hololive gens until the old ones start retiring
that isn't what they said retard.

>>76782090
Twitch makes their numbers public, more people watch streams in English at EU primetime than NA primetime and this has been true since before holoEN existed
France alone has been a larger market for Japanese media than the US since 1980

>>76781994
I actually wonder if unicorns care about bi/lesbo girls talking to other girls, because the exact same logic SHOULD apply (I know it doesn't in their minds).

My main thing is I don't care who collabs with who, but if they get (realistically) flirty with anyone, that's just creepy. If straight girls do a little yuri-baiting for the laughs, fine, but if a lesbo gets serious with it, that's creepy.

>>76782162
The day Hololive switches to twitch is the day I stop watching Hololive

>>76766661
>no new Hololive gens until the old ones start retiring
This was not said anywhere.

>>76779358
>while refusing to watch EN who are actually pure
Yeah, they should watch Mumei who literally did a collab with 4 different holostars at once lmao

>>76782249
It's the most popular Western streaming platform and also happens to make its numbers public broken down by time and language, making it a good way to judge who is actually watching streams in general
The other interesting data point here is Cover published their YouTube numbers exactly once, in 2020 shortly before the EN branch started, and at that time they had significantly more viewers from Europe than NA. This is probably why there was so much visible complaining early on, they shafted the people who essentially kickstarted their western audience

Shitting on HoloEN, begging them to get graduated and praying that Cover won't release new EN gens. Who could be behind posts like these.

>>76766661
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY

>>76782933
It's a good metric for where the exact audience that needs to stay the fuck away from Hololive is

>>76782249
Yeah same I'm not using that shit, I'll just watch vods that get uploaded to youtube if that ever happens

>>76782188
Marine has been losing fans over Ao collabs because Ao keeps pushing the ship and Marine's obviously in love with her. Even Kanata commented on them being way too close and Aqua said Marine looks like a woman who fell in love with a host.

JP: Masturbates and slurps dildo on livestream. She's an idol because she doesn't collab with males!
EN: Plays Gartic Phone with male. WHOREEEEEEE

The mind of a unicorn...

>Holonigger saying they hate streaming and the product is songs and shit
Its over.

>>76783425
Yeah, that sounds like what I mean.
I know Marine has said some stuff in the past that has creeped me out, too. But since I don't speak JP I typically gave her a pass as "Oh, it's probably just the way the clipper translated it", and I always figured it was part of her gag that SHE is the thirsty one while chat plays the straight man (a reversal of the typical chat interaction). But the more I hear the more I think she's probably just a creep.

>>76766661
>exec says that they don’t need to ACCELERATE in order to make more money
>retards interpret it as “no new gens”
What’s it like to be dumber than the investors at the meeting?

>>76783353
It's where their audience came from to begin with. YouTube had almost no English stream viewership in 2020 and holoJP had almost no NA viewership, those viewers didn't suddenly start watching streams the day holoEN debuted.

>>76783437
>homobeggars don't know how to greentext
hang yourself twitterfaggot

>>76783804
Any reasonable person hates Marine and realizes that she is not entertaining at all.

Oh look, Marine schizo showed up.

>>76766661
Is this thread full of ESLs can't read or something?

>>76772668
>Nerissa and Mumei are good singers, but none of them are actually fun to watch

I like Nerissa, the only problem with her is that she isn't committed to the role, she could literally be EN's Marine, but since she half ass she ends up preferring to stay in her comfort zone. The best example of self sabotage in Hololive

>>76784138
How can you claim that EN are whores and defend Marine? How does pointing out your ridiculous hypocrisy make me "marine schizo"?

>>76783804
>Marine has said some stuff in the past that has creeped me out, too
Was it when she admitted to trying to groom two little boys for sex?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM3OGGvvZww

>>76784190
You new? Dramaniggers will twist words to fit whatever narrative they are trying to push.

>>76784317
>she could literally be EN's Marine
Why would you ever want that?

Next month is the end of their second business cycle. Focusing on horizontal growth and consolidation is not unusual at all at this point.

>>76784434
Popularity

>>76784038
You: im a retard durr durr i love 4chan 4chan is my oshi show me your cock anon i called you anon because its cool and i love 4chan of course i dont use punctuation or capital letters this is 4chan

Me: Double spaces in reply to trigger you.

>>76784332
Shut up, you god damn retard.

>>76782162
/vt/ is a board about vtubers. vtuber is short for virtual youtuber. twitchtubers are by definition not vtubers, and it shows because the vast majority of twitchtubers fleshstream half the time, or are just fleshstreamers calling themselves vtubers for some retarded reason. if you want to shitpost about twitchtubers or shill twitch for your daily dose of bezos cum and HRT, try /b/ ot /trash/, where retards like you are welcome to post retarded faggot bullshit all day.

>>76784190
>this thread
this board is full of ESLs that can't read

>>76784190
The whole website is ESL now.

>>76766661
Good move. Actually would have liked it a bit earlier. Oversaturation is a problem that kills slowly and then all at once.

>>76766988
Based

>>76784726
I am talking about streaming in general and particularly in 2019-20 anon. 99% of the current western vtuber audience had never watched a vtuber stream live before holoEN debuted, and if they were watching streams at all it was on Twitch because YouTube Live was a dead platform (and still mostly is, holoEN are still by far the biggest streamers on there that Google didn't pay to be there).

>>76767163
don't forget laplus birthday 3d live disaster and half of akis content is now collab with people she met on those stupid VCR e-celeb servers

>>76779891

>>76780842
Correct.

>>76766661
this is unironically cover's final nail in the coffin
they will never be able to turn a kronii/ame into a fuwamoco/gura. Some people just don't have the talent and charisma

>>76785890
We are still pretending that fuwamoco are exceptionally popular?

>>76783031
JP supremacists

>>76785694
why'd she do it?

>>76785890
What the fuck are you talking about?
Who are you talking to?

>>76786381
Clout inside the Nijisanji members private discord (it's useless, she had a breakdown due to regret and is now M.I.A)

>>76780066
Europe both watches a lot of English-language streams and loves sincere unironic idol shit, but Cover are so late to that particular party that not only has everyone already left, the venue has crumbled to dust. Every euro weeb I know who was invested in hololive back in 2020 stopped caring years ago unless they're a JP viewer.
Cover actually said they plan to expand there in 2025 too, and if that's a new branch and not just an EN gen I think it might be Cover's first genuinely catastrophic flop.

>>76766661
TLDR; This thread is full bait-happy sisters and people eating more bait than fish.
I'm out.

>>76779449
Gura drops a stream, shills merch. Merch sells like hotcakes.
If all of EN does what she does and it works, then that style of business is infinitely preferable than their current model.
And would you look at that, Mori's Stream started. And she has an announcement! Let's see if I'm hot shit or just eating shit.

>>76781994
Male collabs are a staple of idol activities

Hololive has already pandered to the European market, this is peak modern Europe:

>>76784726
No it doesn't you retard. vt means virtual tuber aka vtuber, platform does not fucking matter. Or do holos that sometime stream at twich are no longer vtubers? or what about non-holos that multicast? You should take your pajeet shitposting elsewhere.

>>76768865
>based on results
>Reine
Which results? She's 3rd when it comes to SCs in the ID branch.

>>76787342
what is a "tuber"?

I've said for years that Hololive wants to be the Apple of vtubing with brand recognition. It was clear when debuts froze in every branch besides the nominally separate homos, that they didn't want to end up in a nijisanji situation where there's so many fucking members that even fans of the company can't recognize/name them all. Though the obvious problem was that they considered EN to be basically in the same lot as JP, and let EN rot with barely any activity.

>>76787832
a type of root vegetable

>>76788612
Aren't all root vegetables tubers be definition?

>>76789127
BOIL 'EM
MASH 'EM

>>76766988
Kek

>>76769156
Hololive keeps growing in EN, just at a different percentage because Holo is already a massive entity. What do you prefer 30% of 500 bucks or 75% of 100?

>>76788147
Yeah, most EN viewers couldn’t name 1/4 of JP anyway, they don’t have the same viewers. Especially when EN hyper focused on NA and that was historically the region that watched JP the least.

>>76789602
You're crazy, EN knows half of JP through collabs alone

>>76789912
Did you watch that Kiara stream where EN viewers had to submit trivia answers about JP? Less than 1% of them knew Noel and Flare were a couple. I don’t think the average EN viewer’s familiarity with JP goes much beyond knowing Reddit memes about the 5 most popular members

>>76790332
Your bar was "naming". Yeah, most EN viewers are EOP but they at least know the names of their oshi's senpai