/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76733742
If Doki starts regularly collabing with the roach I'm leaving vtubing forever and finding a new hobby. I'm tired of this emotional rollercoaster.

I don't know why people are trying to act like these ex-niji whores were pure and innocent victims and not grifters
if they were nice they wouldn't be in niji in the first place

>>76733796
False flagging sisters lmao

>>76733902
Grifting Nijisanji is legally and morally correct

>>76733985
Not even. I'm just fucking tired of this shit and starting to go numb

>>76733742
That's because I'm not obsessed with nijisanji.

>>76733742
There's nothing wrong with cliques in and of themselves. They form naturally within friend groups.

The problems start when your clique becomes synonymous with bullying and you begin targeting people outside the clique for poor treatment.

>>76733742
Get back to me when they start bullying people to suicide and stealing sponsorships and merch deals from people who actually earned them.

>>76733742
>male
honestly don't give a shit, do your thing and don't involve anyone else

A group of people brought together by their shared poor experiences aren't a clique.

>>76734282
Didn't lumi interrupt an ASMR stream for 20 minutes to talk sexually to a dude? Why would you use a picture of her of all people to defend unicorns?

>>76733742
why are sayufags so obsessed with doki?

>>76734265
>Get back to me when they start bullying people to suicide and stealing sponsorships and merch deals from people who actually earned them.
Sayu

>>76734437
>sayu out of nowhere
ah so this is a sayu bait thread. Makes sense, Finana.

>>76734403
I think you're confused with someone else? lumi's only misstep has been hosting divegrass

>>76734475
Sayu wasn't in the company long enough to establish a bond with anyone outside her wave and most of her bad things were self-inflicted.

>>76733742
As long as it isn't the nijisanji clique it's good in my book

>>76734531
oh that was Lia, my bad.
I keep mixing them up.

>>76733742
Your eggs are dying, sis

>>76734437
Who the fuck even mentioned sayu in here gtfo /vt/ Millie.

>>76734403
No, that was Lia

>>76734403
That was Lia. It was after a donothon ASMR and she talked to a seaman for 30 minutes.

If you like shitty middle school drama, watch Niji, Phase, and indies.
If you like vtubers, watch Hololive.

>>76733796
Paki chan... not like this... who else would weave our bags on this glorious forum...

>>76733742
Friend groups are inclusive; cliques are exclusive.
Friend groups are supportive; cliques can be controlling.
Friend groups are based on mutual interests; cliques focus on social or hierarchical status.

>>76733742
who's the one on the right?

>>76734864
So basically Vshojo.

>>76734700
There's no drama in Phase sister

>>76733742
Nice file name, sister. I do agree that Matara needs to fuck off though. She's not fooling anyone except her fans

>>76734884
U-san (Yugo)

>>76734282
>>male

>>76734908
I guess cucking their fans isn't drama because the fans actually like that there

>>76733742
Yes, because we like this clique more than the other one.

>>76734265
>stealing sponsorships and merch deals from people who actually earned them.
uhh....don't look matadachis

>>76735036
Proof next thread, right?

>>76734901
I guess so? Point was for this retarded OP because: Doki isn't looking for a clique at all, she literally loves networking too much and likes to have different friends here and there. Mint has never stopped Doki from being herself, and she might be able to make more friends outside Vshojo thanks to Doki. U-san is a musician, gotta network as much as Doki does. Matara would be burned at the stake if she were to try to make Mint miserable by leashing her and her fanbase caught wind of it, so.

>>76735110
The OP is laughable either way considering all we have so far is a single event that Doki made a show of inviting a ton of large and small people.
If all 4 of them suddenly start collabing several times a week and shutting out everyone else, then maybe they'd have a case.

>>76733902
Exactly!!!! I've been saying this since day one of the Dooki drama. This board has never liked Niji but as soon as their leftovers leave then they jump ship and pretend to have always liked them. If you hang around shit long enough you start to stink. It's amusing how people will seethe if you don't watch exclusively Holo and then seethe when you call her Dooki.

>>76734265
>Stealing sponsorships
Like how Doki stole that PC case sponsorship from Rosemi?

>>76733902
>>76735273
seethe and dilate

>>76735323
More like Hyte never wanted Rosemi to begin with and Niji stole the chance from Doki when she was Selen :D

>>76735323
>stole
Hyte wanted Selen. They never wanted Enna or Elira. I doubt they wanted Rosemi, either, but unlike the other two she actually plays PC games.

>>76735273
>!!!!
Womanpost

>>76735273
you type like a woman, dont respond to me ever again

>>76735005
NIJIPROJECTION LUL

>>76733742
"a" clique isn't "the clique" retard
Most cliques are fine but your niji one was the most toxic shit

>>76735273
How fat are you femanon

>>76734934
Retard kek

>>76735561
you don't want to start this war

>>76735273
good one anon, got few (You)s there.

>Pink Ranger
>Green Ranger
>Yellow Ranger
>Black Ranger
Who will fill out the last color?

>>76734942
What's his/her/whatever's deal? I thought it was a girl who wanted to be a boy but I don't know anymore.

>>76734908
dyrbi

>>76735776
Yeah pretty much. They quit Niji due to contractual disputes about music ownership. They don't really stream, they mostly focus on music and sometimes join in collabs.

>>76735745
Vivi's PL had a blue color scheme going on from what I'm seeing. Get her /out/ and /in/ on the team.

>>76733796
good this community dont need a snowflake anyway

>>76734513
she got beaten to a pulp in her last bait thread, so she quickly opened another one, expecting a different result this time.

>>76733742
That Matara inclusion seems so forced...

>>76733742
When do we get that meme with all the former hololive members as akatsuki but now it's all the former nijis instead?

>>76734437
why are you so obsessed with sayufags?

>>76738526
it's finana, anon. I hope that explains it

>>76733742
Last I saw 3 of the 4 weren't accused of blacklisting people even once. Fuck, I think 2 of them will even collab with basically anybody that isn't a total asshat or low 3view trying to skip to the friend seats at the lunch table

>>76735718
You really really don't

>>76733742
Cliques become a problem when they become toxic. In and of themselves they're neither good nor bad, they just exist.

>>76733796
If by leaving forever you mean killing yourself then go right ahead.

>>76735718
You really don't.
In fact, let me just grab a random Ennaschizo post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hgdD3BEHgI

Timestamps for this stream.
0:10:51
Some povertybaiting to start
>You're the one making all the money
>not much lately
0:31:55, 3:20:43
>diego became popular because of me
>Enna explaining she set Diego up with his whole career
>He was just a random guy working a shitty job, until Enna found him and set him up with a lucrative career.
>Diego is a product of Enna's nepotism
0:36:11
Diego brings up Covid. Enna immediately shies away from the topic.
0:40:55
>Enna calls her fans pussy-deprived
0:43:53
>"Do you need dick?"
Enna's highly sexual "banter" with Diego
0:45:12
>"You're probably one of the only people I talk to every other day"
0:55:05
>Diego is single
0:56:35, 2:07:50, 2:10:00
>Diego's dad is Mexican, he is not really French
1:39:24
>Enna mocks one of her members
>she says her membership content sucks and doesn't know why anyone would buy it
1:54:12
>Enna and Diego talking about their IRL meetup
>Enna ate all his chips, tee tee so romantic
2:05:51
>Diego's racism story.
>"go back to your country you yellow fucker"
This starts a long talk about race.
2:07:50
>"There's a lot of asian ancestry in Mexican blood"
>sometimes I do think you look asian
>she couldn't find him in Japan when he was right in front of her....thus proving how asian he looks
>2:09:07 No actually mexicans statistically like, have a lot of asian ancestry
>2:09:20 Enna wants to do a DNA test with Diego on a future stream
>"we might even find out you have some irish blood"
>2:10:42 Enna would be traumatized if Diego had any Chinese ancestry because "then he'd be like, my long lost brother". Which is...for some reason a dealbreaker for her
2:44:19
>Enna gushing about how nice Diego is, tee tee
2:54:33
>Enna invites Diego over for a homecooked meal
3:08:28
>Some of the members of my chat are absolute bitches, Enna doesn't consider them real fans
>Diego thinks it's funny that some people in her chat could be insulted by that
3:13:42
possible graduation baiting
>It make sense that Niji is a streaming company, so my focus should be streaming
>but lowkey I just want time to work on projects and stuff
>Diego: "It'll be easier for you...in the near future...and stuff"
>3:27:22 "I am not, like, a sustainable streamer, I will be gone"
3:28:00
>"I don't even want to reach 1 million subs"
coping hard
3:35:51
>Diego went to an onsen with Enna
>He was naked under the robe and Enna mocked him for it
>the thickness of the yukata's was like...1 ply toilet paper. It was so thin
>"He was raw dogging the yukata"
3:53:45
>Enna posting diego's channel in chat
>shilling him heavily telling everyone to subscribe
Why is Enna allowed to openly promote her PL friend like this?
4:04:45
Enna's rant is sounding very anti-capitalist. Coming from one of the most privileged people on earth who is adapted for a super privileged living standard. Who, in fact, lies to her chat to bait donations out of them.
4:22:12
>Enna ranting about global warming
3:48:30, 4:29:40
>Enna is planning to bring Diego back frequently for future streams

This entire stream was a disaster. The format was intended to show off her close relationship with Diego and all of the questions were prompted by female shippers looking for crumbs. Diego kept bringing up extremely undesirable political topics. Also, bro she went to an onsen with him and he was naked there. Imagine if this was your oshi and you heard this story.

clips
Enna's chat is pussy deprived:
https://streamable.com/729k04

Enna's racial rant about mexicans:
https://streamable.com/8qtaf9

Enna doesn't even want 1 million subs:
https://streamable.com/iwkx5a

Diego was naked at the onsen with Enna:
https://streamable.com/vg7vma

>>76734403
No Lumi is the one that sold herself for a pair of jeans as a teenager

>>76738737
Based tismbro

>>76738737
poor kyo had to quit his job over getting cheated on

>>76734403
That was Lia and the guy she was talking to was me so it's okay.

>>76738737
>Diego was naked at the onsen with Enna:
>https://streamable.com/vg7vma
>israel

Jesas

>>76734282
>>male

>>76733796
>we all LOVE roach now, apparently

>>76733742
you can piss and scream all you want but you wont turn this around. go back to 4+4chan or whatever shithole you came from.

>>76735273
Post tits or gtfo

>>76733742
It was always there, and that is why they were pushed out

For the SEA ESL sisters struggling with the English language:
>clique
>(kliːk)
>Word forms: plural cliques
>COUNTABLE NOUN
>If you describe a group of people as a clique, you mean that they spend a lot of time together and seem unfriendly towards people who are not in the group.
Hope this helps.

>>76736236
>Blue
Real sentai needs Red more than blue so Vivi's out.

>>76733796
fpbp

>>76734583
this thing should not breed

>>76734282
>male
just a mentally ill woman

>>76734700
Fuck off Holokek. Half the drama threads /here/ are made by you faggots shitting on your oshi's coworkers.

>>76733742
>According to doki le cliques are le bad if it's nijisnaji but it's okay if she makes one outside of that company.
Dooki is at the point of niji haters jumping to defend her even if she did something wrong.

Sayu I assume is in the hospital over this kek

>>76733796
What a retarded falseflag.
Anyway we already know this will not happen because they don't have great chemistry with each other and even if they should connect more in the future it would be a gradual change.

>>76746011
She's laughing at an anime dude who got his dick removed.

>>76746061
She's just putting on an act. The knowledge that Mint, Doki and Mata are all three laughing at her now must be killing her inside

>>76734265
This. Forming a clique isn't a bad thing inherently.

>>76734265
This is going to age like fine wine when Sayu makes her next attempt

>>76733742
>Not naming image as Doclique

>>76746599
>bullying is when you just don't talk to some stranger
really now?

>>76733742
you are so bad at this
for years now
lmao

>>76734513
She's right there in the thread OP how is this out of nowhere

>>76747970
Like I said, it is going to age like fine wine when Sayu makes her next attempt

>>76733742
Good

Did you just call the literal survivor support group a clique? Only nijinigs I swear.

>>76748064
Doki, Mint and Matara do not actively stonewall Sayu's efforts to be accepted in the indie sphere, retard. They're not doing to Sayu what Nijisanji did to Selen.

>>76748064
Lol you get manipulated by her sad girl kayfabe. She is not lonely or depressed. The girl has a better social life than most of anons here. She is just has a complex about not being one of the "top dogs" and she tries to pitybait with it. There won't be an attempt.

>>76748137
Why isn't Sayu in the survivor support group then?

>>76748182
I mean...yeah, they do. Sayu's explicitly said there are big functions and events she can't go to because there are people there who don't like her or will block it. I mean, lets be real here, VShojo, VShojo-adjacent, Doki are th people who organzie the big events and they will never invite Sayu so...yeah, just imperically, she will be blocked from indie opportunities.

>>76748182
tell that to sayufags that blame everyone else for sayu's constant self-sabotages

>>76748415
this is some incredible schizophrenia, please get off /vt/ and realise not everyone's out to get sayu kek

>>76748503
It is what she has explicitly said.

>>76748369
I'm willing to bet it's for the same reason people don't invite you to things, anon.
>Verification not required.

>>76748415
zen's collab with sayu was specifically part of a big event that she was nice enough to join despite sayu's reputation and she thanked her by shit talking her agency and vshojo members, gee i wonder why they wouldnt wanna get involved with her again

>>76748814
Sure, but that changes the discussion. Now your point is not that they don't stonewall things but that they are RIGHT to do so.

>>76748777
No, but serious, is she not a survivour too? Doesn't she also need a support group then?

This clique won't hurt anyone

>>76748814
that moment was incredible kek, imagine sayu, she finally collabs with one of the big dogs in vsj, someone who can bring new eyes to her and her channel and the collab goes extremely well! A couple days later and she gets asked whether she'd join vsj and she says no cause there's people she doesn't like in there. the fact she literally just collabed with zen on helldivers made it so much more stupid to witness live, she needs a filter so bad

>>76733742
>3 indies and a vshojo
what are they gonna do, bully niji?

>>76748942
That is the problem. She is a survivor who is excluded from the support group

>all of the most popular girls left nijisanji because the less popular girls took over the management and made their lives hell
Is this what happened in JP?

>>76748966
Till Sayu makes her next attempt

>>76748966
Yet

>>76749005
Only thing incorrect here is that Sayu didn't say she 'wouldn't join because there are peopl she doesn't like in there' she said she wouldn't be allowed to join because there are people there who don't like her.

>>76749071
Not beating the subhuman allegations by wishing death on people, sister

>>76735273
>>76733902
>!!!
/vt/ didn't "love" nijien, but in the early days 3 years ago people could at least agree it was a nice CGDCT alternative to holoen, and pomu sucking Kiara's phoenix penis gave a feeling that they were all friendly to each other, more or less.

It was only after the males, the chinese invasion, En*na etc. that nijien became horrible.

>>76733742
Who? I was busy watching my sharkwife.

>>76749027
You can suffer something and still not be liked by others with the same experience. -Super- extreme example, but if a pedophile survives a drug overdose, do you think they'd take him off the registry?

>>76749113
Fuck Niji, I'm saying this so she stays away from Mint

>>76749336
True, and she is a pedo rapist so it makes sense

>>76749108
To be honest even that sounds bad. It implies that gunrun would have red carpet laid out if not for the "person" obstructing her. It undermines all the pluses who establish deep relationships with vshojos and make effort to get involved with them. It also encourages her fanbase to spread hatred against the "person" which they absolutely did.

>>76749505
Didn't say I was making it sound better. Just correcting it. Sayu is universally hated in the Vtuber scene, nothing new there, you don't really need to come up with reasons for why she is isolated, other than the few sayucucks who exist everyon knows she's shit, I was just correcting one small bit of misinfo is all

>>76749588
And is this "everyone" in the room with us right now?

>>76749656
they're on this board yes

>>76749108
sure, but it was still extremely stupid from her to not just say something else or even ignore the question. She literally collabed with one of the biggest vsj members on the platform and then she goes and says that. I know sayufags love her for her keeping it 'real' and telling how it is but maybe she shouldn't have said that literally less then a few days after collabing with zen? it really was just so stupid looking back on it

>>76749754
As I said already: Didn't say I was making it sound better. Just correcting it. Sayu is universally hated in the Vtuber scene, nothing new there, you don't really need to come up with reasons for why she is isolated, other than the few sayucucks who exist everyon knows she's shit, I was just correcting one small bit of misinfo is all. Why are you surprised Sayu is dumb? She's the biggest fucking idiot in Vtubing. She is literally the sole Vtuber who fucked up benefitting from being a Niji survivour. Only Mikeneko can hope to match her

>>76749868
I'd argue she still benefited from the niji yab, just not as much as others, because it got more eyes on her as a fuckup and that attracted braindead saviorfags. Pretty sure her numbers have gone up since then. She's just complaining all the time because she didn't become a super big star.

>>76749588
I wouldn't equate being avoided to being hated. And a lot of avoidance is in her head. Her fanbase gets off on her being a victim so instead of encouraging her they piss and moan and do their ritual posting against matara and cyyu instead of collab begging in shylily or pippa's chat. I try to reason with them but they just lash out and start calling you a sister.

>>76734475
sponsors rush to THEM

>>76750158
Uhh I think you are arguing with the sayu schizo now. He is shitting up the other threads too.

>>76750158
Numbers going up somewhat is irrelevant, everyone with an iota of skill can make that happen. Other Nijis were able to translate their leaving into massive pity, huge support from major industry figures and even agencies. She was too stupid to do so.

>>76750282
Hate here i mean in the social convention manner not emotional. Nobody who is worth a damn wants anything to do with her and will avoid her. It most definitely is not in her head, most major Agency and Indie vtubers avoid her. Again this is nothing new, sayucucks just fail to understand that the reason this is so is because she brings it on herself

>>76750389
She's a 4view now, while being a menhera. She doubtlessly gained new saviorfags purely from the niji yab, just the most braindead groomers instead of the wider populace.

>>76750442
>Sayu is hated by literally everyone in the universe, trust me I wrote this post 100 times so it must be true!

>>76750495
There are many 4view menheras, that means little. Anyway, I corrected that bit of misinfo, that's all I wanted to do. Whatever benefit she got was marginal compared to the other former members because she is an idiot so it shouldn't come as a surpris to anyone that she is stupid

>>76750511
she really is lol

>>76750511
Why are you trying to convince shitposters on 4chins? YOUR OSHI is the one who believes that, she said it on stream. Try convincing her that not everyone hates her.

>>76750974
Everyone does hate her, as it should be, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>76751101
Why are you replying to yourself?

is that mysta on the end

>>76751360
Who the fuck are you?

>>76751399
Yugo

>>76733742
Was that wo/man on the right actually there or did they just say
>yeah put me in the end and make me really op lmao