/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

That's not how you become the corpo with most money.

>>76585665
The biggest indies have the most elaborate and sex models

>pic unrelated

>>76586114
They waste a lot of money on good models because they don't have any redeeming qualities themselves

>>76585099
yes hololive have the best models, vshojo looks like cheap chinese knockoffs, and nijisanji are trash, the rest doesn't matter

>>76586114
They need $10k models to do the heavy lifting, since 90% of them have no personality.

there's a time when a group of vtuber using deviantart grade models

>>76586114
>>76586256
>>76586871
It's depressing when you realize that most of the EN vtubing scene is just people watching restreamed meme compilations while someone jiggles over-rigged tits in the corner

>>76586871
Yeah because members like Sora, Iroha and Watame are sooooo entertaining aren’t they…

>>76585099
Nope. Nobody cares about that shit and Cover understands that. You are lying if you try to act like you've ever made the decision to watch or not watch a girl based on a like 5% differential in model/rigging quality.

>>76587333
id rather listen to watame eat potato chips for 10 hours in minecraft than listen to vapid white whore #142342 with a monster girl model with Triple G size tits watch a tiktok compilation as she pretends to moan as she eats american fastfood

>>76587396
potechi umai

>>76587333
Sora and Watame's talent is their music. Anyone can play video games. And shitty twitch indies barely even do that, it's mostly react content

>>76585099
It's about making profit

>76585099
Alright, I'll humor your bait thread.

Having the best equipment does not matter if your entertainment skills are moot. Sure, having a well-rigged/sexy model is great, but the novelty can wear off, like the old plastic chair in the backyard of your home.
Ironically enough the old plastic chair has more and longer lasting novelty than most Vtuber models as the chair could be turned into fuel or a weapon.

Vtuber models are like gacha skins or NFTs, relatively useless in real life compared to physical objects.

Anyways, that's my opinion, have a good day: goblok, pendejo, المنتجات الفاسدة, or 고인물.

ಠ_ಠ

>>76587333
Yes.

>>76589926
False dichotomy. It's not like having a good model makes you boring. So why can't they have both?

https://www.twitch.tv/shylily
Look at this and tell me this looks good.
Imagine her spending over 10k on this

>>76591949
Yes? It looks amazing. Who in Holo do you think has a better rig than that?

>>76592320
>It looks amazing
It does not, having thousands of moving parts =/= good rigging. It's overdone, slight movement send everything on your body flying.

>>76587333
I mean Sora and Watame have both had sololives to sold out theaters soo... Yes.

>>76587396
based

>>76591949
That hair looks so bad I feel like she got scammed

>>76592536
Rather have that than the cardboard cutouts half the holomems get

>>76587333
(You) are truly missing out by not watching Sora - her Mario streams have been pure kino
then again you probably don't watch streams anyway so

>>76587333
>>76593606 (me)
also Sora's model is absolute peak

>>76585099
You stupid newfags don't even understand the SOVL. It's reminiscent of ealier Mikocchi (kino)

>>76593156
>I like jello people
Poor taste, anon.

>>76585099
>pic unrelated

>>76593156
If I'm watching a gaming stream then I would rather have cardboard in the corner than incredibly distracting model

>>76594302
No one watches vtubers for gaming content.

>holobronies told me quality>quantity for years
>suddenly having a quality model and rigging is less important than the quantity of money some Japanese investors make

>>76594887
quality of the chuuba is what ultimately matters

>>76585099
Holy shit I don't fucking care, you can have the most beautiful jiggly fluid godlike avatar but with dogshit voices I still won't watch you

>>76595331
Except OP picrel also speaks like she's got a dick in her mouth

>>76585099
does nintendo have the best graphics because they have the most money?

>>76595126
Not like Hololive has that either. Most of them are about as entertaining as your average 2view.

>>76595916
Then why do they have better numbers than your oshi?

>>76596361
because holodrones worship the company not the talents

>>76597067
Why don't you seethe about other corpo too? like Vshojo because twitch is where the majority of indies stream, this holodrones shit is getting old.

>>76585099
When you got actual talent you don't have to overdesign your model with flashy effects and a million toggles.
Let the indies without any personality have that.

I want 3d Hajime so bad, her design is perfect for this

>>76595916
t. seething 2view
I will keep enjoying my cgdct
you have fun with your e-whores

>>76587333
>Attacking Watame and realizing Watamates will come after you
Get ready for military service anon

>>76587333
Watame is better at redstone than most people, so yes, she's entertaining to watch when she tried to solve problems in her contraptions

>be hololive
>be superior
>seamonkeys btfo
>spics btfo
>amerimutts btfo
sounds like quality is winning over quantity :)

>>76585099
I wish they did update the models, but another thing is that a lot of the girls haven't practiced the acting chops to make the best use of their models as is.
For example, the corpos seriously need to stop relying on toggles so much for exaggerated expressions and switch to something more dynamic since the girls always forget to use them during the emotions that they'd be appropriate for.

Ah yes, superior rigging, thank you holoGODS

>>76598002
truly the greatest filter

>>76596361
>popular == good
Go back to listening Taylor Swift and watching cape shit, faggot.

>>76585099
They'd have to hire the top industry riggers on a permanent basis to constantly be updating their roster. If that were even possible, it would be a huge waste of money and fuck over everyone else in the scene.

It's kinda sad how software you can get on steam for free is years ahead of the in-house software used by holo and niji.

>>76595916
This isnt fair, most of their PL are 3view, only a few of them are true 2view and there are about as many 4views. For all of holos faults it does provide a decent crosssection of the vtubing sphere where you get some of the 2view vtuber experience and some of the 4view experience (except all of the fotms are a month delayed because of perms)

>>76585099
>most money
That's niji
Besides 3D models are so much better I think the l2d is a waste

>>76598696
Cover still needs to sell themselves as a tech company because that's what investors want to hear, even though all of their money comes from entertainment.

>>76585099
Whoever does the rigging for holo members is so dogshit at their job it’s almost like a joke. Why the fuck does my oshi have worse rigging than some random 3 view on twitch.

>>76585099
Their 3D sets are also horrendous. They have professional music set to unity asset store backgrounds. It's ridiculous and a disservice to the talent

Aside from the quality of the rigging, the part that worries me is that the 3D models didnt advance at all. If the tech improvement doesnt come from the most successful company of vtubing, it will never arrive.
Vtube studio is better than Holo/Niji exclusive apps and they dont seem to care.

>>76600100
You could have said anything, and you chose something wrong, good job

>>76600411
this comet is very cute anon (and has some very nice rigging)

>>76600411
B-but Suisei is too big it doesn't coun-
https://www.youtube.com/live/aBU9HgJmUWk?si=GlI1Tw-Z0tUFQhUP&t=2237

>>76601786
You do realize that's just an animation, and not live, right?

>>76586114
so true they need to rely on coombait for their lack of personality

>>76587396
towa...

>>76602382
pffffft HAHAHAHAHA

>>76602382
0 cut for the whole section including when she does the MC parts and introduces the live group, cope

>>76600411
>>76601786
Based double sololive holos enjoyer(s)

>>76602707
Don't need cuts if it's all pre-recorded.

>>76603042
This is some shitty bait but I feel nice today so have my one (You) on the house

>>76603082
I bet you think Korone can really do no hand flips with her hag body too. They're good entertainers but lets not be delusional.

>>76603042
getting BTFO so hard by holos doing cool shit that your only hope is to yell it's all fake is the biggest compliment.

>>76603544
I love Korone but she's not a fucking Olympic gymnast, she plays video games for a living

>>76587396
based

>>76585099
Yes, and anyone who says otherwise is coping. Cover makes enough to give every single Holo a high end model. That they don't and people defend it is pure corpo loyalty.

>>76585099
Alright op, just do your shill, who so you want me to watch instead of holo? No need to do this foreplay "uh holo bad because x unlike y" just tell me who you want me to try and ill give them a chance

>>76585099
Their models are good, but their rigging is crippled by the fact they use their own custom L2D software instead of VTube Studio which is the industry standard these days

>>76585099
Certain level of jank is SOUL

>>76609118
I just want Cover to pay for model upgrades.

>>76585099
I can never remember her name, I have no trouble with the rest of ReGloss except her

>>76611193
It’s their shitty in-house l2d app that’s the problem. They hired some good riggers but they can only do so much with a crappy app.

>>76611447
Probably because her entire personality is having a speech impediment

It is more important to have uniform quality across all member than try to make models as good as the talents like.
Being uniform is good cause imagine having collab and you model just look off from other like irys old model.
Although cover did get some backlash for its like the fub model update to 3,0 iirc, people prefer her old model.
Indie vtuber have all power to make models as good as they want with their money.

>>76611941
I would go a step further and say there should be a unified art direction for all the members. They're meant to be a group, and it works much better when they don't look like a crossover episode all the time

>>76613009
The only corpo I've seen do that is 774. It's a nice idea in theory but once you have over a handful members, you're risking sameface

>>76613683
Sameface isn't a problem in anime, that's what hair and outfits are for

>>76614478
>Sameface isn't a problem in anime
Ever seen Love Live?

>>76585099
Having good model and rigging won't save them if they are boring and with zero personality like most EN indies.

Rich people don't stay rich by spending it all

>>76611941
>>76613009
Do it like a mobage. Have an "original designer" and then have the designs redone to fit a single style like Uma Musume or Blue Archive (to a point)

>>76587333
have a (you)

>>76614907
Only the porn, not usually looking at their faces tho

>>76587396
UNFATHOMABLY BASED

>>76597764
guy's probably from pagpagland. he's about to be conscripted soon once china invades them in a few months.

>>76585099
I want Hajime to dance on my face that dance she does in her outro that dance on my face

>>76585099
And they have them