/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76553609
Reject modernity
Return to pre luxiem

>>76553609
TOP FUCKIN KEK.

>>76553609
Better get the next batch ready. This one's a dud. Accelerate!

>>76553609
oh no no nijiniggers? what is your cope this time?

>>76553609
>girls outperforming a male
>in nijiEN
What the actual fuck

>>76553609
Krisis had 41k? Seriously?
Who the fuck even noticed them coming out?

>>76553907
It is factually know that people wait until the last second to watch the debut

>>76553976
nijisiseters

>>76553609
>Chart has each wave organized in descending order of numbers
>Except for LazuLight, Obsydia, and Denauth, which are ordered randomly
What the fuck man? It can't be that hard to organize your data consistently...

>>76553609
These are interesting stats
>Lazulight
Finana being the runt even at debut is surprising. I'd wager Elira had the model buff. But even then in the long run, and despite a two week hiatus, Pomu overtook them.
>Obysidia
I think the hype around Petra's model was fucking insane. It's a shame that it took her a while to get out of her shell because I think she her personality is great but she was too meek at debut. Rosemi being the runt is still true to this day.
>Ethyria
I would have thought Millie would be the one with the model buff. Nina ended up the one with the most good will years later despite how worried people were about her debuting in a mainstream corpo (and now the homostars are the ones pushign troon shit lol).

Don't care about the rest to comment so I'll just go ahead and chime in: GRIM

oh my gawd
numerals

>>76554268
Finana's 'debut' was 8 seconds. Her proper debut was her 2.0 the next day

>>76554119
It's debut order, genius.

>>76554268
>Finana being the runt even at debut is surprising.
It's not surprising. Her initial debut stream didn't start so she only had her 2.0. Also one of her first pre-debut shorts was her farting in water, if I remember correctly.

>>76554119
They weren't intentionally organized by descending numbers, but fine, here it is.

>>76553912
The loli bled viewers once she started the lolicon pandering to be fair

>>76554268
>I think the hype around Petra's model was fucking insane.
Nijikeks really wanted her to be the Gura killer and the answer to gura, and she couldn't live up to the hype which is why she faceplanted. the way she flopped is what started the whole gura killer curse thing

Why was Luca's debut so much lower than the rest of Luxiem? Aussie Internet issues?

>>76554499
She's gonna get so fucked by the sisters the moment the honeymoon period ends, isn't she?

>>76554490
Much better. Thanks for appeasing my autism.

>>76554571
Which makes it even funnier that she hated her model so much she changed it as soon as she could to the point where nothing can be mixed.

And then they forced her 3D model to be the old one anyways.

>>76554119
retard

>>76553987
KEK nice one.

>>76554571
I member this. I don't know what they choose this angle of all things, I suspect because it caused a huge splash with JP nijifags? But yes, that's an unfortunate consequence of shitposting Petra has had to deal with.
A little similar to what Vivi is going through thanks to the faggots pushing her so hard because she was "rejecting Luca's advances" or whatever lol

>>76554119
holy brain dead

>>76554119
Debut timeline doko?

>>76554763
Amamiya is like one of the only Nijis (or vtubers in general) who's 3D isn't their first outfit

>>76554268
Enna
>good will
The bitch is so cancerous trolling her fan base is a 'yeah we know' reaction. The real aloucucks are getting good right now though I guess.

>>76554763
I will die on this hill: 2nd outfit Petra is pure fucking sexo and a 10/10 design, would cum again to it

>>76554808
Because she's a loli and a sea creature
also there was a rumour going around back then that she was sachimu which was another big creator back then which made the nijikeks really excited to finally get something they can use to hit hololive with other than ever more ridiculous copes

I remember /vt/ was convinced Petra was going to be Shachi

>>76554763
petra will definitely try to get a 3D model of her 2nd or 3rd outfit. she wants that bread.

>>76554984
>Enna
reread that slowly, anon

>>76553609
Now I see why Luxiem got special treatment

>>76553609
You can see the exact moment bots came into play.

>>76555002
Yeah, huge improvement

>>76555331
the special treatment is also one of the reasons why they are at pre-luxiem numbers again

>>76553609
NGL I thought it would be lower, I was half expecting less than 10k

>>76553609
>17k peak for a debut
Genuinely higher than I was expected from current niji. How long until they all become 3views?

>>76554726
Yeah some of them are already preparing to turn on her. She's been catering to JP so they think its free game after all. This cancerous fan base just can't help themselves.

>>76553609
Holy shit it's a near perfect bell graph

>>76555434
It's hotter, but I wouldn't call it a straight improvement. Her original is charming in its own way.

>>76555480
2 streams easily.

>>76553609
seriously whoever made the name ryoma barrenwart should neck themselves

>>76553609
not the own you think it is. 16k for a dead company? thats a lot of meat left on the bone there, plenty of profit to be made if even 10% of them become members and buy merch

>>76554571
If I remember correctly people were theorizing she was Mumei of all people.

>>76555778
now this is nijicope

Nijisisters can't afford to viewbot?

>>76555778
>10%
If aster kept 10% of his debut viewers he'd be rivaling ironmouse

>>76555599
It's very cute yes. I like the second one way more but I think as far as models go, Petra easily has the best one of the first 10 girls.

>>76555905
not cope, just simple math
>>76555950
that was a far different time, come on. I'm talking about the shambling corpse that niji is today, not in their prime

>>76555778
I'm sure 10% of them will become members. After they fall down to 1 Finana.

>>76556085
Yeah, simple nijicope

>>76555778
Just wait a few days and the loli will be canceled for saying she like lolis

>>76554499
Damn just debuted and already gfe pandering. Has not even established a connection with her fans yet for fucks sake.

>>76553609
Nature is healing

>>76556319
>a few days

>>76556340
Forgive me for being the Dev-- I mean, Niji's advocate, but you might wanna read that again.

>>76554726
think of something like zaion

>>76555778
>Posts that aged like milk

>>76556453
Oh is a game nvm then. I hope she succeeds I won't be watching her but I won't wish for her to fail. Because these days the girls I watch are becoming more lazy by the day and I feel like cover is in need of some competition. Even if others aren't willing to admit it.

>>76553609
Already debuted? That's quick. Didn't get any notifications.

>>76556392
>not cool
That's right, they are cute! And funny!

>>76553609
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>76556392
Lol did she backtrack on this?

>>76556951
They no longer do those "heres the new chuubas see you in a month" hype posts
They have to debut right away to avoid culling subs because youtube is fucking retarded and thinks any channel getting subs with 0 vids is a scam channel

>>76556392
Kek
Watch sister's heads explode

>>76559556
Does it matter? It's a literal nobody on twitter.

>>76553609
That bad, huh?
G R I M

>>76556392
Why the fuck are sisters against lolis anyway? "Getting raped by an anime boy" asmr is fine, but fictional petite girls are where they draw the line?

>>76559945
because they can't tell the difference between fiction and reality and think they are doing the world a service

>>76559945
jealousy, nobody wants to actually rape them because they're old and ugly and fat

>>76559945
Because for some reason culture wars have invaded fiction, despite the fact that young hormonal women on the internet tend to make the most depraved fictional content just as a baseline.

>>76553609
>mogged the femoid-only gens
All that matters. Mixed gens with the Boy being the main focus are the way

>>76554941

>>76553609
grim

Aster fucking Arcadia getting almost EIGHTY THOUSAND (80,000) CCV on debut might just be the biggest, most blatant case of botting in vtubing history. There is no goddamn way 80k people shows up for that faggot. 0 fucking chance. I refuse to believe it.

>>76565845
what's his ccv now anyway?

>>76553609
>Less than Luxiem's debut
Jesus, it's fucking over. Everyone is gone. Not even the sisters showed up.

>>76566021
Low 3view.

>>76553609
GRIM
GRIM
GRIM

>>76553609
>That drop after Iluna
what happened?

>>76568285
Iluna

>>76568325
Touche

>>76568325
This. Even the sisters complained back then about how fucking boring they were. Everything went downhill from there.

>>76553609
They already debuted? Did they get a gen song?

>>76568784
Yes, but you don't want to listen to it.

>>76553609
NBA will save the sinking yatch

>>76568835
Poor guy got forced into singing... also why did Niji fuck over TTT without a gen name and song?

>>76553609
This a very poetic image. Just look at the spike after Luxiem and look like just 2 waves after after losing momentum things are already going downhill almost vertically. Never stop gatekeeping your hobby or you end up like this.
They fucking turned Agency with Pomu and Selen into fucking Vshojo for males (but much worse than it even sounds).

>>76568952
They went max cost cutting with TTT and realized they actually need to promote new waves to make money
They're fucked for Q4 regardless though

>>76556340
>gfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>76554726
She will probably go the Meloco and Kotoka route of mostly just being NijiEN in name only if they do

>>76559673
>implying youtube is wrong about this

>>76569201
That said, they were fucking over pomu and selen even when it was just lazusydia. I hate to put it this way, but I'm glad it turned out like this and they're fucking out of there rather than being trapped for another few years with the rest of the dying branch.
Wish I could go back and save Sayu, though.

>>76569201
How the everloving fuck was Noctyx THAT far above Luxiem?

>>76556540
You need to be retarded to watch Nijisanji
This is aligned with their audience demographic, which are mostly minors

>>76569780
Because Luxiem were the ones who popularized NijiEN and created all the hype for Noctyx

>>76555778
Grade A cope

>>76569780
Because it was Luxiem which got Nijisanji popular among SEA thirdworlder females. It needed to happen first anon, its called linear time.

>>76557720
Correct

>>76556540
Holy, now that one aged perfectly.

>>76556540

>>76556910
>I feel like cover is in need of some competition.
Monopoly is never good. As much of a Holosimp as I am, there should be some sort of competition, doesn't matter which other corpo it is. Still fuck Niji tho.

>>76553609
The #s were so bad that they couldn't even trigger the Gura stream anomaly..

>>76553609
Goodwill is very easy to lose, and extremely difficult to get back. I wonder how many Michi, Doki, Mint, Matara, Sayu, U-san, Kuro, and Quinn fans still watch vtubers in Nijisanji? I imagine the majority of them have been soured on Nijisanji for good. And Nijisanji can't get new fans due to their radioactive reputation.

>>76559673
Didn't Advent mostly avoid this by having the accounts created early and vids be out b4 the subs flow in? Although, Regloss still got the culling of a lifetime.

It's really shocking how similar tow and doki's models are without color

>>76570399
Maybe other corpos should stop being so black then

>>76570399
Retard it's free entertainment, not an essential product/service. Their competition is people's attention spans.

>>76553609
Huh, this chart makes it look like Niji numbers declined naturally, even without the Selen scandal.

>>76556392
https://x.com/perfumedecoded/status/1794245230465839581

>>76553609
Denauth will bring another boom like Luxiem

>>76571015
KEK I forgot that was a real word. Oh no....

>>76571078
More like an implosion.

>>76553609
At least they still have better numbers than the first few waves. Interest in Nijisanji is probably also at an all time low, at least among English audiences, so its all that surprising. Hopefully they will rise to the challenge and become a change for the better.

>>76571239
>all that surprising
*not all that surprising

>>76571239
I disagree. The problem isn't just the organs. If Pomu and Selen couldn't change the company for the better, then it's a lost cause. Burn it all down.
Hell, take JP with it. From what I hear, it's nearly as much of a cancer as EN, only they're more willing to pretend it's not.

>>76571239
I hope Nijisanji as a whole crashes and all their members flee to find refuge in other corpos or strike out as indies.

>>76553609
What happened to ILUNA? I know they wouldn't keep even half of those debut numbers but holy shit

>>76571015
lololololololololol

>>76571400
In my opinion whoever hired ILuna was more concerned with fulfilling their gross internet fetishes than actually appealing to vtuber fans. Their hiring choices were abysmal and they were so bad they killed the hype for all future waves. Kyo wasn't just bad, he was actively destructive and ruined the reputation of the branch as a whole.
The crazy thing is how you can literally look at a ccv chart and you'll see the dropoff of NijiEN started exactly when Iluna debuted. It's probably not a coincidence.

Nijisanji seems to have a habit of wasting their money
>Investing massively into the most failed gen in history
>buying back their stock right before it tanks
>pouring truckloads of investment into promoting NijiEN right after the Selen drama when they are a dying animal.
It's like they're trying their absolute hardest to lose money.

>>76553609
Doesn’t matter
DROP ANOTHER GEN

>>76566692
Have you seen the numbers the boys are pulling? The sisters left. The only people on this board are baiters.

>>76572016
>promoting NijiEN
The concert was schedule before Selen Shokku, so that thing was already set up. AR Live was recorded in 2023, they just had to cut some stuff up. The 3Ds debuts were in production since January and they just wrapped them up. The AX thing was probably signed up last year.
Nijisanji didn't promote shit, in fact they've spent nothing to promote AX or that Virtual thing in Singapore.
They're just trying to nickel-and-dime the branch for the last bit of money can squeeze from that rock. The only legit new thing is the basketball collab and I bet that was just NijiJP doing the work and going "Hey, mind if we add some EN members as well?".

>>76553609
not surprising i guess

>>76553609
Was busy playing the newest gachaslop that I forgot they debut today

>>76571293
rumao, acting like Pomu and Selen weren't part of the problem that made nijiEN into what it is today. Pomu is a meek, milquetoast pushover that went along with anything anyone did, and Selen actively cultivated the dumpster atmosphere there with her whining and sperg-outs, and endless collabs with homos and whores. They were never the saviors, they were part of the problem.

>Klara currently streaming at over 1k
What happened, I thought they were supposed to be 3views?

>>76576049
>1k
so this is the line now huh

>>76553609
which of the 3 will keep the most viewers after a month?

>>76576959
2k now

>>76576049
>sister thinks dropping to 1k viewers 1 day after debut is good
Oof

>>76570184
is someone feeding him the cunny juice? can't he use his own hands? baka

>>76577366
You know exactly what he's doing with his hands.

>>76577396
jackoff sesh with the homies i see
how does one decide who holds the drinks while the other jerks?

>>76576991
If this is going to be her slot, then Klara/ She's streaming during EN dead hours, so fans with nothing to watch will default to her.

>>76570471
Whisp here, I stopped watching all nijis even the JP ones

>>76578668
>She's streaming during EN dead hours
Klara streams in euro primetime?

>>76566021
0.5 finana

>>76580356
Yes

>>76553609

Ain't no way NijiEN has 41 members wtf HoloEN has only 15

>>76584444
It would have that many, but you're not counting the graduations. In reality they have like 34 or something. And that number will drop soon

>>76584444
NijiEN has 15 females just like HoloEN
The problem is
>several of them are widely speculated to be graduating, including the two most watchable ones Rosemi and Vivi
>many of them are downright unwatchable garbage. Finana, Reimu, Kunai, Aia
>several of them have severe trouble speaking english Klara, Kotoka, Meloco
>several of them are notorious for attempting to "own the incels" and shipped themselves with males. Enna, Reimu, Millie. (Enna has done actual NTR streams btw)

When you get down to it, you're just left with Elira, Scarle...maybe Twisty who debuted yesterday? None of them are actually watchable in other words.
I guess enjoy Rosemi and Vivi while you have them.

>>76553609
iluna as highest but its the one of the most neglected gens in nijien

>>76577366
When one partakes in the highest quality product, you need a butler at the very least to give it justice.

>>76585045
Klara said she's a native speaker, she just studied so many languages she has trouble pronouncing Ls and Rs.

>>76588225
and you believe that?

>>76588273
No, but it's hilarious she even tried it.

>>76585045
>>several of them have severe trouble speaking english Klara, Kotoka, Meloco
that is kinda hot actually

>>76553609
Gura deflection thread

>>76585045
What's your problem with Kunai?

>>76589125
I don't think anon has one with her, she's just the most forgettable of the bunch. Which is weird, as she's arguably got one of the top 10 most popular roommates.

>>76589125
Who?

>>76589125
It's a shit improvised weapon made out of a gardening trowel. Outside of civilian uprising situations there's basically no reason you'd take a kunai over anything else.

>>76571338
Sadly Niji's pulled a Konami and basically everyone from JP at least who goes indie gets snuffed in the crib. Their most popular female streamer of basically all time went from being a 5view to going indie and becoming a 3view. The only exception to this rule is Chihiro and that's almost exclusively due to her own efforts in specifically making herself a safety net.

>>76589348
But it heals me when I get a backstab

>>76559673
So post some voice over teaser shorts. There's other solutions, if this is the reason for the immediate debuts then they're retarded.

>>76566021
As a point of reference Aster has been sitting behind the entirety of Phase, which includes the retards that can't speak clearly, and most of Idol. He's below what is generally considered the cut off for indies being able to treat vtubing as a job.

So what was the verdict? How many of the new ones were actually Japanese?

>>76553609
Much better than Advent did, keep coping.

>>76553609
Are tehse numbers accurate? It's honestly kinda funny how small Luxiem's debut was considering how fucking big they got. And Noctyx took full advantage of the groundwork Luxiem laid for gigantic debuts. Pretty interesting stuff. I don't care about OP's dumb numbershittery I just find trends interesting.

>>76577445
>sit in a circle
>jack off self with right hand
>hold drink for the homie to your left with left hand
As shrimple as that

>>76553609
How did they peak with iLuna?

>>76565845
Lots of people were excited for femboy design.

>>76569201
>>76569780
It's funny how for several months after debut Vox had better ccv than his debut ccv.
But now he's a 3view.

>>76599624
Because it's debut CCV. Each debut is indicative of company health. Luxium shot them up, Noctyx didn't fuck it up. Then came the decline.

>>76553609
Grim!
SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE!

>>76594017
I thought Advent peaked at around 120k ccv for their debuts

>>76588225
>>76588389
Anon, she's a gook.

>>76589223
Ren zotto has a million subs roommate does that make him more entertaining the anyone else?

>>76602097
She didn't have Korean listed as one of her languages.

>>76603408
march 2024