/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7650545
>would have been selected for fifth gen if not for a literal scene powerhouse and legend appearing at the last second
>slotted for a main gen as the first complete non-Japanese despite tacit deep-seated racism in JP culture
>Cover salivating so hard for that Phoenix snatch that they invite her back to audition for their next biggest project instantly
>Obliterates both JP-targeted and global-targeted interview pools effortlessly

yeah I'm thinking Kiara is based

>>7650783
You could just TL:DR this with
>Kiara mogged by Polka
But she does get credit for Cover still wanting to keep her around

>>7650545
...fisto ga stopu me???

>>7650545
Based cover saving her from joining gokishit the failed gen

Kind of also explains why she so firmly but down any possibility of Polka showing up on her talk show.

Polka is such a leech.

>>7650545
finally a believable rrat

>>7650545
>people unironcally falling for this again

>>7650983
Your rebuttal, sirchama?

>>7650821
People who push this narrative just show they don't understand how big a deal getting Polka was at the time, even Yagoo alluded to it obliquely as 5th gen being the first time hololive really got a huge massive talent angling to join them. Sora was a massive fan of Polka. It's like running a talent show for nobodies and getting early Sara Bareilles entering or some shit. Saying "you would have been chosen if not for Polka" is a huge compliment at that point.
Not that the timelines line up anyway.

is Polka even popular?

>>7651067
If you line up all of the JP holos previous personas Polka was the biggest.
But unlike coco she didn't capitalize on the transfer

>>7650545
jesus, this is one hell of a timeloop

>>7650545
>in other timeline, we get kiara instead of polka and nobuhime never graduated.

>>7651234
>Nobuhime would still be making dick sucking asmr regularly because the company forces her to

>>7651234
>Finana gets in holoEN
imagine the yabs

>>7651090
man some of the posts from back then were wild, which makes this rrat even funnier with how much it makes Kiara look amazing

>No matter how Polka is going to try nobody will ever see her as Polka. Not her viewers, not her colleagues. She won't ever be a real kouhai for them, she will always be treated with extra care, she will always get special privileges. And you will never treat her as a part of Gen5 but as Nobuhime. It's always going to be "Gen5 and Nobuhime". Now whether or not it's going to affect her is up to the debate but it is kinda sad from the perspective of the generation as a whole. I hope she's a good sport about it though and will use her position to help the others, like Coco did with her fellow yonkisei.

>>7650545
I wish more narratives were this high quality and potentially possible. Too many rrats are just "X hasnt talked to Y in a day, why do they hate each other?"

>>7651019
Kiara herself rebutted, she pointed out how the timeline doesn't match at all.

Where are you newfags even coming from? This was debunked several months ago.

>>7650911
Why does Kiara have to be a salty bitch about everything?

>>7652212
>Kiara said it wasn't true and Kiara couldn't possibly be lying, she never lies
Really nigger. I wouldn't trust chicken bitch as far as I could throw her. You realize she has a long and storied history of lying and backstabbing, right?

>>7651992
Just makes you realize how little anyone on here actually knows in the grand scheme of things.

>>7652286
>he actually swallowed the jrcach rrats

>>7652435
>I-It was just one guy spreading rrats!
Nope. That's the cope KFP have chosen but Kiara had a reputation on /cg/ that wasn't connected to any one person spreading any rumours. Also there are plenty of things about Kiara that are 100% substantiated without needing to resort to anything said on 4chan. Kiara is just a cutthroat bitch and always has been.

>>7652739

>>7650545
Nobuhime was scouted, retard. She didn't have any plans to become a vtuber after graduation and even was active at new youtube channel for a while.

>>7651992
>It's always going to be "Gen5 and Nobuhime".
Can confirm. It's still like that for me.

>>7650545
>Austrian weeaboo
>name begins with "Naz"
I really doubt it would happen. Cover was still doing business with China, remember.

>>7650545
This isn't new info. Kiara getting accepted into Gen 5 but then getting moved to EN is a pretty old rrat that has been around for a long time. I accept it at this point since it makes sense.

>>7654801
Yeah but in Japanese it would be pronounced like Asuka from evangelion "Nasuka"

>>7650911
Wait I thought she was just trying to get the older Gens up first and not, you know, the group that literally debuted just before she did.

>>7650545
By this logic Kiara should be the first HoloEn, not the last one, or am I missing something?

>>7650911
arent they already collabed once? minceraft?

>>7656208
NO, SUT UP! THEY HATE EACH OTHER!

>>7652241

Who cares, no one likes her anyway lol

Hearing Pekora diss her in front of everyone during the summer festival brought me so much joy

>>7651992
If that's the case just give me the Robe Polka kino and make me feel I'm in high school again, onegai...

>>7650545
ogey

>>7655970
HoloEN auditions were in March, Polka was scouted in June which means Kiara got booted to EN 2 months after the rest.

>>7657621
I mean... I like Kiara but I don't like her that much to think Cover would keep someone on for a completely different project. This whole thing makes it sound like Kiara was such a shoo-in that she was destined to be hired as a holo in every single timeline.

>>7658987
this makes sense because kiara is one of the most talented people in hololove

>>7655026
This is exactly it, and they had a fun time collabing back in the day too. /vt/ is just trying to sell you a shitty rrat as usual.

>>7658987
I mean this rrat flows very neatly into all of the orcschizo stuff, but honestly I think both are just examples of /vt/ having an overactive imagination and too much time on their hands.

Damn. I don't actually believe this at all but I do appreciate a rrat with some effort behind it.

>>7650911
Am I dumb or did that talk show not have Polka as one of the first guests? I mean the chicken toy clip

>>7659590
what

Polka is Ina's wife and so is Super Galaxy Amazing Giga Hyper Nenecchi

>>7659613
Nevermind. That was just the minecraft collab

>>7659656
:)

>>7658987
Yeah the funny thing with this shit bait narrative is that even if you take it "serious", it makes Kiara look even better than she is, and that's probably not what antis intended with it.

>first, the rrat asks us to believe that Kiara was so good that she was admitted into Holo Gen5 (the first nonjap to do so!), supposedly beating out thousands of other qualified japanese applicants.
>then, only when an even bigger powerhouse (nobu, at the time) becomes suddenly available, she gets re-assigned. Not simply let-go, mind you, but apparently transferred as-is to the new EN branch (again, ostensibly beating out thousands of other qualified applicants worldwide, not even needing to audition again).

But yeah, the whole thing is not supposed to make sense anyway.

>>7651992
You could say the same thing about any other holo and their previous persona, except Nobu was huge in comparison. As for her colleagues, I suspect most of them knew each other from way before and we wouldn't be even able to tell. They don't see her as Polka or Nobu, they think of her as the person irl.

>>7656251
wait, she did? i gotta hear this

I think this is close. But you guys missed an obvious clue.
Lead?
amungos collabs

>>7650545
luv me timeloops

>>7650545
>Polka took Kiara's place
>Kiara took IRyS' place
>Cover couldn't find shit for EN2 so they made IRyS debut early instead of EN2
>"""Vsinger"""

>>7659772
it's an almost year old rrat, it predates most of organized schizophrenia that's why it doesn't work as an anti propaganda

>>7665277
what kind of cope is this

>>7659772
That'd be because this wasn't written as an anti narrative at all, it was just a bunch of interesting facts and leaps of logic the regulars at /jp/ cocked up back when it was still mostly a gathering of genuine hololive fans and not the mess of schizophrenia it is today. Creating narratives was just a thing they did back then because they trusted everyone to be dedicated enough fans to be able to tell bullshit when they see it.

>>7651038
Aren't Polka and Yagoo actually friends irl? That would make sense, Yagoo would probably be more familiar with her work and would talk her up more.

>>7651019
It was spread around alot during en debut but it's so bad cause it doesn't make since because why would they want chicken that bad if you ask me. It was spread by chicken herself to look better to schizo kfp on vt. We know she uses this site cause of her slip up during her 3 houses stream where she defends herself out of nowhere leaving chat confused whereas this one I've seen chat actually recognize

>>7670451
Why do you sound like a crazy person?

>>7670479
Cause I am

The weakest part of this rrat is the implied "no more than 5 people in a gen" rule.
1 gen had 6 girls. Gamers had 4. There was 0 reasons to not have 6 people in a 5 gen.

>>7671755
Gamers wasn't a gen and was 4 people specifically to play 4 player games, retard. Gens 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 all had 5 people.

>>7650911
Except she was one of the first JPs she collabed with. Do your reps.

>>7650783
Retard, it's obvious that Kiara was originally going to be the EOP pandering EN gen 0 before they decided to make an entire EN branch and putring her there.

>>7672684
This whole thread is people wildly speculating with almost no reps.

>>7650545
Fennec and phoenix do sound similar to the average nip.

>>7650783
Is Kiara posting her own damage control here now? What the fuck is this lmao

>>7672415
i wonder why ID broke the mold there with 3 members per gen then

>>7674210
why? isn't it simply the logical conclusion of the rrat?
maybe the person who keeps posting this narrative is kiara...

>>7682449
>maybe the person who keeps posting this narrative is kiara
maybe you're kiara
maybe I'm pomu

>>7684773
Anya here, do you guys want to collab?please...

>>7682449
There's no way to spin the fact Kiara got booted out of Gen 5 in favor of Polka then recycled into EN because she was able to speak English positively. Remember that Cover originally thought EN would be like ID which were all under 100k subs at the time

>>7685258
>Polka
...also, you realize that gap wasn't remotely significant at the time of that decision, right? It was considered an unexpected sign of hololive's success at the time that Lamy hit 100K subs after debut and mindblowing that Botan did it before debut.

>>7674210
She always has. All of them do.

>>7676493
Because as we've seen there are only 3 interesting people in Indonesia

>>7650545
This post implies what Nazca died for Polka's sake but Polka's channel was created on June 5th and the first Nazca post were on Jund 7th

>>7685444
It just shows how many newfags there are who take for granted hololive's retardedly rapid growth rate. For comparison, around the time this 'replacement' was supposed to have happened, Pekora had just hit 200k subs after going for 9 months. You would have had to be a complete fucking idiot NOT to pick up a 100k sub vtuber who wanted to join you, no matter the cost.

>>7686793
who are the other 2?

This is a very interesting story but assuming they knew about her visa status and the fact she wasn't willing to live in Japan long-term anyway, her having to fly around for events and stuff wasn't going to be tenable, especially since you were already seeing Haachama having a hard time going to back due to lockdowns.

>>7689160
Risu and Moona

>>7689160
That's a weird looking Reine.

>>7685258
>Remember that Cover originally thought EN would be like ID which were all under 100k subs at the time
No, could you link me where cover said that?

>>7691667
One of the EN sluts said it.

>>7689160
Anya and Anya