/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76427533
It never was a thing in the first place

>>76427533
So their lie got caught out. Hilarious

is @hologlobal owned by cover?

>>76427619
It restreamed fes, which was linked by hololive Twitter account

>>76427533
>holojp
>reddit
oh yeah man totally i can see that

>>76427619
No it is a fan jap account ever since the Coco incident. He reports on Hololive news that he got in Japan, including this bili return news and now bili cancellation

>>76427619
No chinese account is owned by Cover.

>>76427533
So... it's real or no?
before it said a hoax(?), later (now) it said canceled debut on bilibili

>>76427533
Now, where're the retarded anons who claimed the fking bilibili accounts are not compromised?

>>76427723
It was probably real considering that billibilli account streamed holofes and was linked by the hololive twitter

>>76427533
I mean the people that anti'd hololive and their talents did not just magically dissapear. They'll only accept an apology or face their wrath all over again.

>>76427786
>accept apologies
>antis
Yeah fat fucking chance

Did any official account (so not b2) ever talked about that stream?
I know a superchat mentioned it to Aqua but she just said chinks can get fucked and didn't comment on the alleged Matsuri's stream at all..

>>76427723
The hoax is the schizo zhang spilling shit like "Cover is making talents studying Chinese rules" and "Cover is slowly making / forcing members to stream on bili" without any evidence

The bili Matsuri account announcing her return today is legit, and now it said she (or manager, who knows) cancelled it

>>76427837
See
>>76427847

>>76427858
So the answer is no.

>>76427882
It's yes

>>76427847
Either case, nice job for them to burn the bridge LMAO

>>76427858
So no then

>>76427837
No Hololive official accounts has mentioned bilibili or anything else aside from their Holo 4th fes re-stream for Hongkong-ers probably. And Matsuri has not made any tweets mentioning bili till this day

>>76427847
>The bili Matsuri account announcing her return today is legit, and now it said she (or manager, who knows) cancelled it
lol no that account is anything but legit since its the same account that teased about b2 exclusive stuff that went nowhere

>>76427533
AIEEEEE
prepare the wheelbarrows

>>76427558
This.

>>76427533
Kek
People making it sound like "Matsuri pulled out" when it wasn't even a thing.
She herself didn't even utter or hint on being in bilibili at all

>>76428458
>Bugs making it sound like
ftfy

>>76428458
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>>76428027
Retards. Two different people. This account posts hologra the same time as youtube. How would an account without connection to cover do that? They'll wait and try again, cover is retarded.

>>76428532
Why do they have to wait ? Are the gaijins that influential ? I mean, ain't that also a good thing ?

>>76427837
People tried to connect Matsuri tweet saying she's looking forward to 24th to this rumor.
Of course they completely ignored that just under that tweet, she retweeted Gamers collab with some steakhouse that starts on exact same date.

>>76428678
I think it had more to do with the b2 comments being full of antis.

>>76427533
>"temporarily suspended"

>>76428532
I'll believe that when I see an actual acknowledgement from the official channels again.
Seriously, a first time stream in 3 years and not a peep anywhere?

>>76428532
>>76428453

>>76427533
Who knew a bug schizo posting can be so powerful, if only vt post are like this.

>>76428532
You tell them brother

You retards actually deserve to be conquered by China

only Watamate can make lying chinese apologize
others will just put a new lie to cover their old lie

>>76428532
because it takes about 5 seconds to download youtube video and upload it on another platform, and it can be 100% automated

I know fiber internet speeds might seem like black magic to most of the world but it's a real thing in Asia

Who has so much time ginning up some fake campaign with this low of a stakes? No actual official account(s) has said anything.

>>76428865
And the subs? It's funny you use a Coco image when you don't care about her legacy. Believe what you want.

>>76427558
fpbp

>>76428910
yea, youtube version comes with chinese subs and you can download that file too

>>76428988
I hope one day they incidentally reupload only traditional chinese version

If it was a hoax, they'd use someone like Aqua. Plus aqua basically confirmed it was real.
This was inevitable after the IPO

>>76428869
its from a channel that restream fes that tweeted by official holo x account
it is official

>>76429057
post clip

>>76428865
with subs actually edited into the video with proper color coding and everything? you can somehow do that in the span of less than 5 minutes? there were hologra episodes uploaded on bilibili at the literal exact same time as the youtube one, how do you explain that?

>>76429138
Some retard asked about it last night

>>76429057
Show stream and timestamp of that

How come Matsuri doesn't promote her own bili stream but Aqua somehow knew about it ?

>>76427533
good, china and it's race is so toxic.

>>76429055
doesn't really fucking matter does it.
you can ask a question "are English subtitles meant for Americans only?"

as far as Cover as business is concerned, they have multi-linguistic translators and they are utilizing them for maximum view coverage which leads to maximum profit.

It's only a childish delusion from bugs to think that they are somehow receiving special attention

>>76429057
She only talked about her own, nothing about Masturi. Talent may not know other talent's circumstance officially, but they may heard that rumour from Twitter.

>>76429186
the point isn't that they have subs at all, it's the fact that bilibili manages to get the videos quickly enough after the upload to not be physically possible for someone to download and edit and upload on there. and again, Cover officially restreamed fes on the account said hologra episodes were uploaded.

>>76427558
This
Literally some shit the chinks invented lmao

>>76429155
anon need to make burner account, use this feature, and include link generated in post everytime they making a "x say this" statements

>>76429272
what ever cope boat floats you, but in the end you are just +1 view and nothing more

>>76429333
you can't be at a point where you're trying to argue an almost year old argument that the bilibili account isn't somehow official when Cover themselves have officially restreamed events on there this year. At this point, if you somehow think the official bilibili account isn't official, you are just coping.

>>76429272
Hololive can license their videos to bilibili and take the portion of money. That doesn't mean bilibili account is 'official' because the accounts are not fully controlled by cover.
It just means they are business partner, nothing more.

>>76429272
You keep saying this "official" bullshit as if repeating it enough times makes it true. Cover dropped everything in China after the branch closed. The account is run by a former employee who had access to it beforehand. They don't work for Cover now.

>>76429322
Someone did it for me
https://youtu.be/0l75Erj6RwA?si=rvNA5HGHBtPn6NLs

>>76429393
literally this >>76429230

>>76429383
>cover did it
P
R
O
O
F
has NEVER been posted of this by the way
Not a single cover owned account has ever posted about bilibili
>but bil-
Owned by the chinese, the same account you claim is "cover" has been shilling trannies and shitting on hololive in the past
KILL YOURSELF

>>76429144
>>76429272
anon... i've never checked if they actually schedule hologra to be uploaded at a specific time, but if they do, it's piss easy to make a script that automatically downloads it and the subs, and uploads it to bilibili. Takes 10 seconds AT MOST, plus whatever time bilibili requires to process the video. I'm not saying they do this, but it's retarded to assume they can't.

>>76429457
Do you not remember the stink that was made when Cover put out the PR statement confirming they'd be restreaming holofes on bilibili? How new are you if you somehow forgot or didn't know about this?
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1735192904388239772

christ, i will never believe a single word came out of zhang mouth again, truly bunch of scammers that put pajeets to shame, i feel very bamboozled

>>76429515
Why did you believe them in the first place? Did the previous two dozen attempts to pretend that Cover is totally actually crawling back to the chinks this time not do it for you already?

>>76429507
and what happened with that? oh right it was never on bilibili
stick to nijizhangji you vermin you are desperately losing them over

>>76429461
it is from channel that xed by holo x offical
it is official

>>76429557
It was on billibilli

>>76429557
it literally was on bilibili, so was Capture the Moment
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/908368257224802325?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0

>>76429515
i still can't believe some people still fall for the chinks lies in 2024

This is some next level cope.

>>76429383
not really, I just find it pointless to try and explain your tiny brain that computer, in fact, does not have to "watch the video" for its whole duration, nor does it have to open a video editing tool to make changes to it

>>76429685
Ok but what about
>>76429620

>>76429654
genuinely can't believe people still think hololive hasn't been officially drip feeding content onto bilibili for the last year. like just because Cover doesn't advertise it on twitter, doesn't mean it isn't their doing. If anything, it just shows that Cover knows it's a controversial decision and that's why the only official mention of it was when they announced the holofes restreaming(which just casually mentions it alongside special showings in Korea and Taiwan as well as bilibil)

>>76429712
>>76429767
See
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>>76429811
You're mentally retarded.

Marine needs to talk to a western style psychologist / psychiatrist. Not really for therapy, but mostly to get all that stuff off her chest, in front of someone who is literally paid to not disclose this shit.

Nijizhangsisters seething. You love to see it.

Chink retard who is a 3rd party agent connecting cover and bilibili has a big mouth and leaked too much stuff including holo b2 account stats to prove himself. Yesterday he posted apology for leaking holo participants for bilibili concert. My guess is cover and bilibili are not happy hence resulting in matsuri's b2 cancellation today. This 3rd party agent is like mythic handing account matters and 90% of jp vtubers on bilibili is under this 3rd party agent

>>76429823
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>>76430086
Did you even read that..? It proves cover tried to return to billibilli.

>>76430154
Prove that holo b2 acc not fully controlled by cover itself.
>My guess is cover and bilibili are not happy
Anon, it's a guess. The dude controlling the account can make claims all they wanted.

>>76430266
You're actually retarded... COVER WANTS BACK IN CHINA

Heh
Chiggers btfo'd again
Maybe ask your shit ji ping to stop doxxing every talent

>>76427533
>cancelled
>>76427558
this

>bug still trying after getting btfo today
lmao

>>76430283
>COVER WANTS BACK IN CHINA
KEKW...
if cover want back to B2...
they will doing it for our TAIWAN BRO...
not BUGEATER SUBHUMAN from west taiwan...

>>76430283
Mask slipping off moment.
Go blame that dude for burning the bridge.

>>76430266
You are correct, the guy is getting bonked because he is making stupid claims but it is also true that cover is selling merchs including 3rd party collab merch through china platforms starting from last year.

>>76428839
You’re to much of a bitch to even “retake” Taiwan

Cover wants nothing to do with China but agrees to doing official events there for absolutely no reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nwt-t_Z1MA&ab_channel=%E3%82%B1%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3
Chugokujin...

>>76429100
Then why didn’t the main account or Matsuri make any mention of it?

THE MATSURI BILIBILI RETURN: HOAX
THE AQUA COMMENTS: DEBUNKED
THE TWITTER LINK: FABRICATED
THREAD STATUS: SHITTY BAIT
CONCLUSION: OP IS A FAGGOT

>>76430543
why would they need to advertise their bilibili activities on twitter, an audience that'd have no reason to use bilibili since they don't live in a country where twitter or youtube are banned? they didn't really do that shit back when they actually were more active there unless it was a specially sponsored one like fubuki's special costume reveal that bilibili paid for

>>76430608
>she forget that the whole Taiwan debacle is because zhangs use Taiwan IP to watch holos on youtube.

>>76430437
where would you want to move the goal next?

>>76430024
https://x.com/BoogDevereu/status/1793555009688506544
He claims they even handle mikeneko's bilibili activities.

>>76428532
retard

Every time i start to think that chinese people deserve respect, some retard comes and ruins everything. God, you are, may Allah forgive me, worse than Indians.

All in all I am glad that this isn't happening

>>76431433
Yes like i said, 90% of jp vtubers like kagura mea who streams on bilibili is under him because they are the only ones who is doing all the dirty work for account creations, modding and social media managing. I am not surprised cover thought they are safe because everyone is under him. To be fair, they do a decent job too with other jp vtubers and there is no yabs with others. But the guy just got cocky once he got holos under him and can't stop running his foul mouth.

Is this another episode of China Fakes Everything with David Zhang?

>>76433777
Literally nothing is safe in China. I play some chink games and the leaks are constant while the official accounts keep saying to stop talking about leaks and their main producer also keeps leaking.
There's always someone trying to get ahead or everyone else either in gaining clout or money.

>>76427558
yes it was
https://x.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1792560297578029239

>>76427619
its run by a ksonfag that has a deep hatred for japan

>>76427619
its run by a vengeful ksonfag who has a grudge with china

>>76434056
literally one post before
>inb4 you shoud not getting excited over your coworker event

it's fun to mess up with 2cent zhangs
see you again on the next lie anons

>>76434264
why would matsuri be excited specifically for the day a website for a corporate collab not involving her goes online

Hasn't China's rules about streamers gotten even more draconian since Cover left? Don't they still require vtubers in China to doxx themselves? Why would Cover want to return to that quagmire of fragile egos and delusional nationalists?

>>76434411
idk, maybe her butt hurt

>>76434411
There is a thing called "online persona". You are supposed to play into it, even if you are not THAT excited.

>>76434435
>Hasn't China's rules about streamers gotten even more draconian since Cover left?
slightly
>Don't they still require vtubers in China to doxx themselves?
moot point for corporate vtubers, they have managers to handle that.
>Why would Cover want to return to that quagmire of fragile egos and delusional nationalists?
1.5 billion customers.

>>76434435
That's why that 3rd party agent mentioned above is hired. The agent use other identities when registering accounts so even if they are required to reveal their identities, it's not the vtuber themselves.

>>76434411
Anon-chama, do some reps.
https://x.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1793106987636736378

>>76434566
>1.5 billion customers.
Before Cover left China, those 1.5 billion customers only contributed to about 9% of Cover's revenue. And this was BEFORE HoloEN blew up and started bringing in international revenue. Honestly, the fact that Hololive has not only managed to survive, but actually prosper without the Chinese market is the thing that makes the Zhangs seethe the most.

>>76434435
the initial wave of doxxing leaks was real but the subsequent leaks were fake to try and discredit the 1st leaks since a number of them were mouthpieces and fake white monkeys

https://space.bilibili.com/286700005
I don't know why the EN fanbase thinks so but the official Hololive Bilibili account (linked above) is owned by Cover and always has been. It was never hijacked and used to spam Take Over and shit like some of the other ones. It was not a fan account that Cover took over when they first went to Bilibili years ago. It was created by Cover's managers and nobody but them ever had the passwords. Everything posted on it is legit.

>>76434569
That sounds illegal.

>>76434723
so current Zhang Lie event is just bilibili agent groveling on dirt asking Yagoo to bring back holo to their streaming platform so they can get a cut from the revenue?

>>76434832
there's no such things called illegal in communism if you have the link

>>76434816
Retard chama, read the thread
>>76430024

>>76434723
>Before Cover left China, those 1.5 billion customers only contributed to about 9% of Cover's revenue
this was determined by anons comparing their superchat revenues. there's a reason why /#/ stopped tracking that shit years ago. it's pennies compared to merch and sponsorships. cover didn't release financial reports back then.

>>76434919
That has nothing to do with what I said.

>>76434816
need link place on holopro site
manager do work
no free lunch

>>76435000
Just go to archive.org and look up hololive.tv

>>76434980
>nobody but them ever had the passwords
And yet he has access to holo b2 acc statistic.
>Everything posted on it is legit
Admitted its a hoax and never confirmed by the company.

>>76435024
>archive
need now

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in 4 days since Matsuri post that tweet, she never deny nor acknowledge the question from chinese fans on her twitter reply
it's official!

>>76435057
Link to his stream? If he was granted access to the official channel that only confirms that what he said was true.
>>76435076
Type "archive.org" into your browser and hit enter. Click on the textbox next to where it was "Wayback Machine" and type "hololive.tv" then hit enter again. Click a snapshot in 2020 and look around for a Bilibili icon.

>>76435258
manager need update current site
bilibili is official

>>76434816
You mean the same chink managers that went rogue when all shit went down?

>>76435405
That didn't happen. The people who went rogue were fan translators. They were able to do that because many of the official individual vtuber channels were originally their fan channels, so they had the login info and were able to change it and lock out Cover's staff. That was not the case with the official channel.

What is funny is that every talent and cover did their best to not rile up the chinks but they will still 100% get pissed and start harassing talents again just because their lie didn't stick
the attempts of deflection in this thread are a good example

https://youtu.be/INFI9FahPY0
wtf? it is not exclusive? YAGOO should do a naked dogeza!

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>>76435501 (you)
>December
I'm not the brightest

The chinese seem to have a thing where they really want to ruin hololive and take it personally they're not allowed to. They're offended they can't punch you in the face again after doing it once before. It's wacky.

>>76435501
can you explain what matsuri's free chat has to do with anything

Jesus christ everyone in this thread are braindamaged subhuman retards.

>>76435734
included

>>76430564
FINAL THOUGHTS: GLORY TO HOLOLIVE!

We should bring back slavery and let the blacks own chinese.

>>76436116
it was real and it's only delayed because the manager they hired leaked stuff so they need a new one

>>76427533
Without question. Cover is known for listening to the fans if things get heated. They scrubbed HLZNTL for the exact same reason the B2 stuff was scrubbed.

>>76436234
let's say it was real (lmao) what makes you think Cover will actually continue for it NOW that it has been exposed and everyone is enraged by this? They're widely known to back down and stop if there's enough backlash (HLZNTL the most recent example). Hololive will never return to China WITHOUT having to sacrifice either the ID or EN side first. In fact that's what many of those chinkniggers want to happen in the first place: Hololive abandoning the EN side and re-embracing China.
Goodluck with that.

>>76429767
>it just shows that Cover knows it's a controversial decision and that's why the only official mention of it was when they announced the holofes restreaming(which just casually mentions it alongside special showings in Korea and Taiwan as well as bilibil)
That makes sense and the anon flipping out in this thread likely explains why Cover isn't making a bigger deal about biblibili. Hololive is here to earn money and they can do that in the Chinese market. Have no idea why anyone thinks they wouldn't eventually return.

>>76436806
Those are retards in denial. Cover wants chink money because why wouldn't they? EN market is dying anyway.

yeah, only Matsuri one is cancelled. Kobo is still going.

>>76436938
No one wants your pathetic money chink, kys.

>>76437040
Is there a kobo channel with a stream reservation?

>>76436721
>let's say it was real (lmao)
it was, see >>76434816
>it has been exposed and everyone is enraged by this?
by 'everyone' you mean maybe 100 twittoids
>muh EN and ID
they won't even know that it's happening. and if you tell them they will just deny it. just look at this thread. look at yourself even.

this next part will probably make you mad but you're greatly overestimating how easy it is to manipulate the vast majority of fans. maybe you're a free thinker who actually will be mad and drop holo if they go to china but you're an outlier. matsuri just needs to say "i want to do it because i love my chinese fans too! it's ok we are taking extra precautions to be safe" and 99% of them will relax. just a few months ago cover fucking deleted a talent completely with no explanation other than "she broke nda trust me bro" and everyone was like "yea that's fine you gotta do what you gotta do". nobody cares. and you think what will make them go ballistic is a stream on a website you don't like? get real.

also HLZNTL was cancelled because it was a stupid idea. most holos are almost too busy to stream let alone become esports pros.

>>76434056
she has a song cover coming out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvhLAQdIGHk

eh? chinabros our answer?

>>76441342
one of those is me and i'm not a chinabro. i want nothing more than for cover to cut them off forever. i'm just not delusional. that's not gonna happen now that they're public.

>>76434816
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>>76427533
I have never and will never believe a single thing that comes from bilibili

>>76442655
that's how they're gonna get away with it. when she eventually streams you'll just say it's AI or an ancient rerun of a stream lost in the holocaust.

>3 years of chink bugmen disseminating the same "hololive is kneeling to china and will be crawling back to us" propaganda
>retard anon still fall for the propaganda

So we went from aqua will be cutting ties with holo and will be going back to china to now matsuri and even kobo will be streaming to some b2 event? . So next year what will be the propaganda that the chinks will use? Gura exiting youtube and will exclusively stream on bilibili? Kek

>>76443491
>So we went from aqua will be cutting ties with holo and will be going back to china
That's even more unbelievable than whatever this nothingburger was

>>76442185
>cope
lmao

>>76427533
>Matsuri
You meant the Chink controlling the account who thought he'd have a laugh by making up shits

>>76443677
i have seen the zhangs who owned those channels crying about losing them with my own eyes. i have seen them begging cover's managers in dms for them to do shit for them and being denied. i listened to their group crying sessions where they lamented wasting years of their lives supporting someone who isn't completely schizo about an island. all you've done is read retarded shit a muhammed made up in /#/ and then act smug pretending that you have any idea what's going on. you're coping and you don't even know it.

>>76429767
>holofes restreaming
a fes that's a year out of date at that, chinkos don't get the fresh fes

>>76443919
>Lying zhangs
Makes sense, I suppose

>>76443853
Won't some schizo chinaman try to track him down now and give him some additional slits where his eyes are? Kinda dangerous game to make shit up like this when you're surrounded by psychos around every corner.

>>76444356
have you heard the fubuki story?

>>76444373
Nott really. Chinks are schizo but you are overestimating how bad they are off the Internet, even more so on some minor issues like this.

>>76443919
the same pussies that when taiwan happened threw fuel to the fire giving communiqués of how angry they were and the separation as a group, all of them one by one throughout the day.
the same faggots that used the "official channels" to promote other vtubers out of spite.
do you think they deserve some pity? ha! you better go for the rope.

>>76444710
i'm not pitying them, illiterate retard. i'm saying they don't have the channels anymore. bilibili stole them and gave them back to cover and they cried a lot about it while calling the owner a bunch of slurs.

>>76444934
sure chinkchong.
you are all liars, no one trusts what you say.

>>76427533
upvoted

>>76446596
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>>76446685
L for China again. go get your wheelbarrow, you continental liar.

>>76447170
how new r u

>>76427533
lol their lie got caught.

Why did people think cover was gonna return to China after they burned their bridges with them years ago?

>>76448120
ipo

>>76448120
Eh, if Bilibili and Chink kowtow, I'm sure Cover and Hololive wouldn't mind going back. They will never view China as fondly as they used to and the girls will be really wary against their Chinese "fans" - if they even bother interacting at all - for a long long time, though

>>76448472
>Eh, if Bilibili and Chink kowtow
what does that even mean

>>76448427
Given how Yagoo already told investors to fuck off at least thrice, I doubt Cover GAF.
As Cover said, they only went public to allow their original investors to cash in as a way to repay them. Now that it's done, they clearly don't let investors force them to do anything they don't want to - as long as Yagoo and his friends still keep the large majority of stocks, that is.

>>76448514
Contacting Cover first, apologizing, and giving them attractive deals - that sort of things. Basically
>That was our faults. Sorry, please come back. Here are a bunch of good deals - we are willing to bend over to some extents to get you back. We will try to behave as long as you don't do anything illegal this time

>>76448648
you're basing your view of a billion dollar business around retarded shit that teenagers wrote. yagoo never told investors to "fuck off". and no companies do not go public as a "thank you" to investors. that's fucking insane dude.

>>76448792
bilibili didn't even do anything except ban two channels that broke the law. all the harassment was from random dudes on another website. not sure what you want them to apologize for, other than conspiracies.

>Nijisisters were praying for this to be a yab
>Some random nobody in their black company graduates

It's beautiful to see.

>>76427533
It would be so fucking funny if cover actually does want back in on the chink money but they’ve locked themselves out of doing so not because of the seething chinks but because of the seething western and domestic audiences who’ve turned them into a political talking point.

>>76448942
>and no companies do not go public as a "thank you" to investors. that's fucking insane dude.
that's not what that post even suggested you disingenuous nig
allowing the original backers to finally cash out is a thing that's done because that's what cover did
where the fuck did your juvenile idea of a "thank you" even come from? fag

>>76448120
the myth of bug money is the most repeated cope. nevermind that you lose most of that money to bug laws that make it very hard to take money out of china. you also have to deal with bug companies that will try to steal as much as they can from you and fans that will turn on you the moment they think they can get something from it

>>76449419
Quite frankly if you’re not Chinese or have a subsidiary in China just give up on Chinese money. Even Niji didn’t set up in China directly and desu it’s worked fine for them so far. (Ironically it’s their western ventures that are complete imploding lmao)

Sub human from west taiwan can keep dreaming...
Cover will never back to B2 anymore after what they did to holomem because taiwan problem...


Maybe...


If west taiwan kick ccp and join back to taiwan side...

>>76449218
ironically all their seething didn't matter at all and the delay is due to a chinaman with a big mouth
>>76449304
you're just regurgitating fan-made PR that doesn't make any sense to anyone with more than an infantile understanding of business. all the china shit is all due to their game. they spent a fuckload of money on it and in the middle of development the entire foreign fanbase dropped off hard. at this point they either need to get lucky that it catches on with most fans or enter a new market. btw did you know that bilibili is also a video game publisher? crazy coincidence.

>please be yab please be yab
>gets BTFO again
the absolute state of xisters, im kind of tired of winning at this point while doing nothing, and sisters is desperately scraping bottom of barrel like a monkey

>>76449419
>>76449694
You have to hand over 51% of your company to even operate in China if you're big enough
Tesla being the only exception IIRC

We have Xi openly talking about how they need to fatten up the capitalist class before "harvesting" them and somehow these retarded boomers are still so blinded by greed they willingly walk into China expecting to get rich

>>76449895
Chinky cope.

>>76450247
no you just have to partner with a chinese company and sell your product through them.
>>76450270
take a screenshot and post it when the game launches. bilibili will publish it in china. or maybe you'll just say it's a lie and the game doesn't exist because it was posted on the spooky china website.

>>76449895
I'm sure the game developer section is as well run as the rest of b2

>>76427533
Zhangbros got bonked by Aqua

>>76427533
How long before Cover tries to get holoEN to stream on there?

>>76450342
>no you just have to partner with a chinese company and sell your product through them.
They demand a joint venture for any big company

>>76450403
yes that is what i said

>>76435476
Is that what that Suisei sub tweet is about her repeating the don’t automatically believe everything you read

>>76450342
Cope harder. Even chinese fans commenting better not to go back to bilibilil.

>>76450574
the chinese can cope too

>>76450491
>don’t automatically believe everything you read
Yes. Only believe the things that support schizo narratives.

>>76450395
I'd prefer if they got them to stream on youtube first

>>76427533
>Not official holo announcement
Trashy rrat by filthy bugmen

>>76449933
>and sisters is desperately scraping bottom of barrel like a monkey
All that effort instead of them watching and supporting whoever the fuck that's left in that trainwreck that they claim to be so attached to.

Meh, china audience is worthless, but china companies/finance are not.

I mean, china boycott is a big problem for many of the game perms and sponsorship.
Likely maybe even the biggest reason we still lack real games/anime/big productions.

>>76427533
This anon >>76428766 is correct in linking this cross post. >>76428453

The Chinese do this kind of thing all the time, especially with foreign companies. They're conceited assholes that believe they're the most important people in the world. This manifests in several ways, but understanding their behavior requires you to understand how they do business with foreign companies.

China severely limits the amount of money that foreign companies are allowed to take out of the country. In order to operate a foreign business in China, you have to go through a chinese-owned middleman who is given 50% ownership of the operation there.
The majority of the foreign company's take is then prevented from leaving the country by chinese commerce laws and so they are forced to reinvest their own profit into the chinese controlled side. Eventually, the chinese side demands access to the foreign company's trade secrets and technology, after which, they expel the foreign company while justifying it through some kind of manufactured scandal while invoking nationalistic sentiments by accusing the foreign side of "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people".
The chinese middleman then continues selling the service or product under their name, now fully owned by them.
This exact process has happened countless times with countless businesses.
This should guve you a general idea about how they view their business with foreign-based companies.

Now back to this Matsuri stuff.
The Chinese try to use underhanded tactics and coercive methods like this to gain more control over companies than their position allows, which you might think is very odd for such a hierarchical society, but they don't view foreigners as equal to them, and so they'll unilaterally make decisions to try and force foreign companies to comply with their demands or gain power over them, at least in their business in china.
When the foreign partner refuses or disagrees, the Chinese side will then appeal to their Chinese customer base and explain that the foreign side has betrayed them and will try to rally nationalistic support against the foreigner-controlled side of the business until they acquiesce to their demands.

We saw this tactic attempted multiple times in the past including a similar incident to this one when one of the Cover-affiliated, Chinese-owned bilibili channels promised their subscribers that Pekora would do a stream on bilibili and when she didn't, they tried to paint her as a liar that betrayed the Chinese people.
And we saw it again when Chinese bilibili management tried to obtain Hololive CN's models by telling the CN members that Cover told them they could keep their models after the branch disbands. This was never true because that's not how Cover has ever done things, and instead it was an attempt by bilibili management to gain leverage in their exit negotiations and possible permanent access to Cover's tech, including the holoapp the talent use to stream. Their plan was to make Cover look extra evil to chinese fans by making it look as if they had reneged on their promise to let the talent keep their models, even though that was never discussed in the first place.

So this is just another act of coercion on the Chinese side in an attempt at a power grab in order to give the bilibili channel owner more influence over Cover and hololive by telling their chinese fans that Cover doesn't respect them and so they canceled Matsuri's stream.
This is how china does business.

>>76454243
Digusting.

>>76437682
>>76442784
Suisei tweet and Aqua's stream earlier debunked this.
>they won't even know that it's happening
anon, EVERYONE knows. Hence the increasing negative reaction from all sides.
>also HLZNTL was cancelled because it was a stupid idea
so is returning to China. Cover already learned their lesson the hard way, you think they are actually dumb to do it again?

>>76454243
well said.

>>76458077
Why is Cover doing official holofes screenings in China if they're totally against being in China?

>>76458362
why do you equate "official holofes screenings" in biribiri being Cover officially returning to China? The chink retard who spread that hoax about Hololive making a return to bugland and was caught already admitted he faked it and Cover is not making an official return there.

>>76458362
Bilibili, not China. And this is the first yab similar to >>76454243 since cover licensing their video to Bilibili.
Better hope cover not insulted and cut off the link the second time.

>>76458872
bilibili is china and them "licensing" there is them returning to bilibili/china
You're really just twisting and turning to argue semantics now.

>>76453665
The lack of mihoyo perms is a net positive (sorry sana)

>>76459173
Holy cope, you think all business has a connection to bilibili, it instantly become China Lmao.
You just mad the asshole got caught lying and cover found out, Zhangbro.

>>76459467
But you're the one equating bilibili to China and saying that all of the activity on bilibili must be fake because Cover is not returning to China.

>>76459605
I'm not this anon Zhangbro >>76458077
Please just go support your oshi instead of acting like bilibili shill.

>>76459823
It doesn't matter who you are. The entire discussion is about bilibili and you're acting like there's a difference between doing business on bilibili and doing business in China when there's not.
Cover is back in China.

>>76459931

>>76460215
Exactly. Cover is spineless and disgusting.

>>76458867
that didn't happen, you have no idea what you're talking about. that's an old rrat by some rando.

>>76427533
she quits because she knows vox is going to mog her on the platform.

>>76458077
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1735192904388239772
They have already returned. They have already streamed again. They streamed the 5th fest free part over there too BTW.

>>76454243
This. fuckers.

>>76442784
Both those claims will be easily verified. At this point there is no reason to believe anything bug accounts say. It never happened, it was bugs sperging out, matusri was never going to stream on b2, you got tricked and now you look like a retard desperately coping

>>76462417
>>76460976

>>76460976
So they are not actually returning, got it.