/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76422643
inb4 youtube bot cull brings them all down

>>76422643
Grim grim grim

klara's name is actually decent. The exception that proves the rule.

>>76422643
They should start submitting their Starbucks job applications

>>76422643
Still too high.

>>76422888
Can't, the sisters will bitch about it like they did with Scarle

No one would even be thinking about these people if you weren't so obsessed with spamming them in the catalog.

>>76422643
why aren't the jp fans subscribing to them??

>>76422776
It's a dick joke.

>>76422643
It shocks me that they're that high.

>>76422643
Ryona's the one with the pre-debut scandals right?

>>76423128
>/vt/ schizos do a better job promoting the new niji wave than the billion dollar company

>>76422643
>since
It's until, but I'll give you a pass for showing off how fucking grim NijiEN is now.

Is there even a reason to join NijiEN?

>>76423128
Thr catalog is obsessed with spamming literal who's and their drama for some reason.

>>76422643
There has been no fucking debut yet you stupid fucking holofag

>>76424935
>holofag
Rent free

>>76424935
OK, 72 hours since twitter debut, does that make it any less grim?

Hell fucking TTT had 20k+ subs 24 hours after their twitter debut and that was with zero teasing and zero promotion

>>76422681
They're unironically growing too slow for the culling to kick in, I think.

>>76424476
The absolute state of nijisanji

I can't wait to watch Gura stream over their debuts. That is what her tweet was about. No doubt she knows that people know.

>>76422643
>2 hours
>not a single has increased
Is the hype already dead? Was there even any to begin with?

>>76426156
>niji
>hype

Does anyone have a public PL for the girls?
Need to datamaxx for the first ever 2-view niji EN gen to be competitive in the grooming market

>>76422643
New Phase Connect gen be like:

>>76422643
10k too high

>>76422643
people were mocking toya too when he first debuted, and they all looked foolish when toya ended up as one of the strongest livers niji has currently.

>>76426847
This isn't 2018 any more

>>76426510
So what do y'all think this idiot is trying to deflect from: New EN wave being dead-on-arrival or Utako graduating?

>>76426847
Who?

>>76424557
Debuting in Nijisanji is better than debuting as an indie to 0views.

These would have been incredibly good numbers for Holostars in 2019

>>76426847
Reminder for you loser ass vagina discharge, less than ASTER GOD ccv on debut, like 90k or something = absolute failure. NO one fucking cares about your LE NIHONGO TOP 10 NIJI MEMBERS 2019 debut numbers.

>>76426978
2018 nijisanji jp was weaker than its current form.

>>76427860
Yeah, I'll say.

>>76427962
Oof

>>76426156
What hype? Literally nobody gives a shit, it will die harder than TTT

>>76422776
The exception disproves the hasty generalization. Your cliche is thought terminating.

>>76427428
yeah bro getting antis before you even debut is something every chuuba wants

>>76422643
How does this compare to TTT at 72 hours?

>>76428427
This is them after 24 hours, just before debut

>>76422643
Remember guys:
Denauth = Death N U!

>>76428584
Denauth subscribe
Denauth watch
Denauth superchat

>>76428498
I was honestly expecting the new wave to do better than TTT despite the bad reputation, because they're getting more attention. That seems less likely now.

I might check out the cunny, don’t know about the others

>>76428652
Why would you, all the attention they are getting is negative and the hardcore nijifag crowd that subs to any niji on principle took a major hit

>>76427428
I mean yeah? Niji isn’t hiring 0views though, I think if you’re even in the 3view range you should seriously consider whether joining Niji is even worth it.

>>76428498
>after seven months Kunai has gained less than four times the subs she had pre-debut
Grimmest of grim

I'll be generous and I say they'll end up around 15k before debut

>>76428652
Anon, between TTT debut and now, NijiEN lost HALF their ccv. It's not just a sinking ship, it's an exploding ship.

>>76422643
GRIMMER

>>76427962
>Selen was on her way to be the first NijiEN girl to reach a million subs
No wonder they tried to Zaion her.

>>76428652
You'd have to forget everything that happened inbetween to expect that.

>>76428700
Because I saw this board shit all over NEXAS for the 3 days of their debuts, only for a bunch of retards to decide they felt so bad for the talents that they would download the app and be the suckers instead. As long as you can get people's attention, someone will simp for you. I don't know what to expect anymore.

>>76422643
Thats some big numbers for a no name indie company
I wish them luck

>>76428427
they'll do worse than TTT in the end.

>>76422643
How the mighty have fallen.

>>76427962
petra...about to lose her 500K...
rosemi will never get to 500K again...

>>76429581
I tolerate my malware app for them, I can save them

>>76429738
>groomer
you're a creep.

>>76424557
Might get one or two pity-fans

>>76422643
I feel bad for them if they're really ESLs who signed up before the Selen shit went down.

>>76422643
>>76428498
This was v4mirais gen 3 numbers before debut (the bottom row, no i dont have the energy to crop everyone else out)

>>76429944
And for the one that is interested this is their numbers now

>>76429944
>2nd most subs in the company pre-debut
that's just strange

>>76430082
A funny teaser video and short works wonders (ad boosted but everyone in that gen got ad boosted so it all evens out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toqKGGqUlYs
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8LWC6A3_tAw

>>76430025
I watch mono and Nova(e)
They're super cute. I might end up branching off to the others eventually.

>>76424476
>>76423128
Kek

>>76422643
is nijien a small corpo now?

>>76430627
it's worse than some of them actually
Also shortsighted, because you're permanently staining your career by associating with homofaggots. Likely sharing a gen with them too

>>76423128
Unironically the only reason I’m even aware these debuts are happening is because the catalog keeps talking about them.

>>76422643
I mean, they are not losing subs, so they are already better than rest of the branch

>>76430627
You’re probably better off in Phase, Idol, or V4Mirai compared to Niji nowadays, being in Niji may be better than the other small corpo options though. I guess if you’re male Niji is probably still worth since males do better in Niji and you only really have First Stage Production as a good option for small corpos who hire males.

>>76428498
The hell with those designs? They're targeting teenagers or something?

>>76430984
Yeah, that's what JP does anyway. The latest wave there is even being promoted it high schools.

>>76430839
Ouch

>>76431152
In a sense they are less tainted than the rest of the company, with all the concerns about bullying and cliques, everyone is under a microscope now whether or not they’re actually guilty. New members at least have some chance of growing since they weren’t around for the shitstorm, the companies reputation won’t do them any favours though.

>>76431469
nobody has any chance of growing period. The company is dead.
By the way they are debuting in a mixed wave, they are dead on arrival already

>>76429805
He's just doing what every chuuba watcher should aspire to do.

>>76430536
I started watching Mariya because I thought she was a really cute femboy at first, but even after the disappointment I stuck around and I still really like her now. Plus her model is absolute fucking sex, I mean, jesus christ.

>>76430839

>>76431970
That's the one with Pomu's artist who got the 40ft cutout, right? I'll look into her.

>>76422643
>PhaseJP numbers
Beyond grim.

its even more funny that their debut announcement post in xitter have more likes than the Total Subcount of this 3, sisters couldn't even bother to sub

>>76422776
It's the guys who have retarded names.

>>76432142
>sisters
tbf not everyone who might be interested them is necessarily a sister

>>76422776
No? It's a erect dick joke. It's actually pretty pathetic that two of the three have names after causing erections.

>>76432142
Not like the NijiEN fanbase actually watches stream

>>76432037
She has unironically made streams where we hang out with her and our daughter
she is the wife experience

>>76432261
daughter? what?
well that's some kind of crazy RP

>>76432218
This. Some sisters have even admitted to closing the streams after 30 seconds because
>I didn't want to watch them, but that way at least they will get my view

>>76432297
Ok so there needs to be a qrd of the Mariya-verse for this stream
Mariya = wife
Komari = our daughter
Kouromi = black haired black eyes menhera
So V4Mirai had a maid cafe event that went on for like 10 days and she had this stream after that even. Because the maid cafe closed (IIRC) she could have our daughter over and let her play in the cafe.
Some things that happened during the stream is playing rock paper scissors against our wife and daughter (and trying our best to lose against our daughter), taking chekis with our wife and daughter. Kouromi made an appearence.
The stream after that stream was a members ASMR with us essentially us cheating on our wife with Kouromi, asmr included hearing her sharpen a knife etc and all that good stuff
The Mariya-verse is wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90xE-4xYmE
Pic related, it is Kouromi

>>76432552
Sounds wild. She seems creative.

>>76422643
hopefully the two girls won't be constant male collabers

>>76432673
roru

>>76432673
It's Niji so you already know that's going to happen

I think there's a good chance that Klara becomes the new biggest Niji EN runt

>>76432673
Even in the bizarro world where those two girls don't want to and aren't whores...
It's not really a choice for them to make, it's NijiEN policy, which is part of the reason Nina left originally. Management kept denying her requests for support for a female only server (I think she wanted to invite Holos to it)

>>76432673
Maybe if this was NijiJP, you could get some sporadical male collabs with mostly solo or girls only.
But this is NijiEN. Luca and Uki will always insert themselves in all girl collabs.

>>76432989
that's why she keeps doing male collabs now?

>>76432938
It's gonna be Twisty 'cause the sisters are gonna chase away her viewers and call them pedos.

>>76433149
Which is stupid since we know the sisters won't watch her or Klara anyway

>>76432938
I'm thinking probably a high 3 view for the first week or so and then probably down to Aia levels after that

>>76433149
>literally just drama hungry and doesn’t care at all
What a faggot, god I hate these people

>>76432989
>Management kept denying her requests for support for a female only server (I think she wanted to invite Holos to it)
Imagine what could've been. lol Niji would probably be stronger than they are now if they took this route. lol

>>76422643
who cares faggot, channel has no content yet. Not everyone gets the guaranteed hololive boost, some people actually have to work for it by being entertaining.

>>76423545
do your reps, that was just a schizo bitch who heard about it in a dream. turns out it was someone unrelated

>>76427650
nobody gets 90k ccv for anything now except holo JPs. EN4 could drop and they wouldn't get 90k

>>76433981
Cope

>>76433981
>hololive boost
>some people actually have to work for it by being entertaining.
The fact that they even got into Holo(however many attempts it took) already proves that they are more entertaining and did more work than 95% of trash out there.

>>76424557
Skipping VTA apparently. Can't wait for them to stream in JP hours only.

>>76422643

>>76429581
>nexas
i only watch esila thru the twitch restream

>>76432778
Luca is going to force himself into a collab?

>>76441144
Well, yeah.

>>76430839
Jesas don't jinx them. What if they start loosing subs a week after debut.

>>76441144
Probably

>>76441144
isn't that how niji male livers operate

>>76422643
Nice Kawaii Productions numbers

>>76424557
If you're a guy you get free access to a bunch of cuties to have fun with while being pampered by Japanese staff.

>>76429581
The Nexas shitshow is pure soul, unironically closer to grassroots vtuber efforts in 2018-2019 than anything nowadays.

>>76441836
>grassroots
Become an hero

>>76441836
>t. Captain

>>76441617
It's how Luca in particular operates

>>76428498
How long did it take for Claude to reach 100k? Because I expect the new meat to take at least a month longer than that to reach 50k.

>>76441836
go advertise your groomers circle elsewhere.

>Highly curated fanbases of consisting of the very most supportive fans left
>This is a bad thing somehow

>>76430839
absolutely savage

>>76422643
>male
>that high

>>76426458
The loli is theorised to be a VTA dodger so unless one of the few anons who has knowledge of tiny JP indies recognises her voice in the actual debut then it's unlikely the info will come from /vt/.

>>76422776
i'd love for her to charm my wood

Wait they debuted already?
I didn't see a single thread about these losers streams

>>76444751
me neither wtf lol i thought that was sometime in the future

>>76422643
This is fucking terrible.

>>76444570
the other girl is supposedly a VTA dodger as well.

>>76427650
you spend too much time on 4chan, baiting nijigods. and now you let your whores gets mogged by fuwa kek.

>>76422643
GRIM
GRIM
GRIM
TOTAL NIJINIGGER DEATH

>>76446502
Now show his regular stream numbers and not his 3d

>>76443444
>Highly curated fanbases of consisting of the very most supportive fans left
>still won't watch streams
Kek

>>76446502
nijiGODS here, FUWAPOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HOT DAMN!

>>76427962
jesus, is this recent? How is this STILL going down?

>>76447353
Yes. That was yesterday. This is today.

>>76432673
>Rosemi

>>76448781
>Petra hit 500k
congrats

>>76422643

>>76428743
Niji has absolutely hired 0 view Vtweeters before.
Who was the one who pre-debut just talked about how gay they are on Twitter? That was one of them.

>>76454628
Sounds like something Uki would do but I don't know

>>76447353
The black stream did irreparable damage to nijisanji

>>76448781
Millie needs to drop under 500k i swear to god it'll be soo funny

>>76449574
Lol
Lmao

>>76456542
I so want to be a fly on the wall and listen into the conversations about nijien at nijisanji

>>76458686
Probably the only organ who won't actually be all that bothered by this.

>>76422643
Crazy how this is a 15 hour old thread, and the girls have only gained 500 subs in that time

How many Niji-EN guys are still left?

>>76448781

>>76459238
Zero, they're all in JP

I love Vivi's voice and model too much. I don't want to drop her or lose her. Why did she have to be in niji?
Her voice is so hot because it has that feminine innocence to it. Hearing that voice in bed must be amazing

>>76459841
>spoiler
You should DM one of the Niji males, I'm sure they'll let you know what it's like.

>>76459953
KEK

>>76423128
What is wrong with discussing upcoming debuts?

>>76429715
>About to
uhh

>>76427962
Hurry up and get Luca to his 1m milestone already.

>>76461283
Riku probably threatened Youtube/Google to expose some of their dark secrets at the last CCP Fanclub meeting to keep the bots from Luca's account from being removed.

>>76458686
What did Petea do to get hit? Never watched her, but she has a cute model. Was it just collateral dmg?

>>76461909
(me) Petra*

>>76461909
she tweeted on her PL doing the "oh woe is me i was so powerless to stop this" while hanging out and having an official group with the main culprits where she got themed outfits with them and then her 3D debut had Riku wanking
and retards still thinks she's going to graduate kek

>>76461909
She's Enna, Mille and above all Elira's bestie, she deserves this 100%.

>>76422643
Why is their song so bad? It'd have been better to have forgone the thing entirely.

>>76462241
>>76462772
Oh, o7

>>76422643
that's 12.4-13.1k too many 2bh

>>76462241
Also their official group is literally just Etheryia but switching out Nina for Petra

>>76422643
>catchy English name with JP last name
>JP name with a disgusting English last name
who comes up with this shit?

>>76422643
GIVE. IT. TIME.

>>76463563
They haven't done anything wrong yet, well at least the two girls haven't

>>76422643
16 hours later...

>>76459841
Tell me about it. Losing selen's design is such a shame. Niji's model rigging is shit, but the art is great

>>76422643
>>76465305
Of course the male is ahead.
Also I've seen no discussion about the fact that they did a mixed gen, I'm guessing they just didn't have enough candidates.

>>76469985
Iluna, XSOLEIL, and TTT were mixed gens too - it's not that unusual for Niji.

>>76469985
Eh, he's ahead by like a few hundred. That's practically negligible. The fujos aren't gonna save anything.

>>76465254
They joined Niji EN after February.
They knew what they were in for.

>>76427962
I'm coding the resub bots as we speak. I will SAVE NijiEN.

>>76422643
give them time jesus

>>76422643
I won't call any of these 3 a lost cause for at least a week or so because all it takes is one dumb meme or something and a miracle could skyrocket them into popularity; I almost want to audition myself just to challenge myself and do the absolute utmost to see if it's even physically possible to overcome the NijiEN debuff. Would it take spamming teaser shorts predebut? Somehow making a hit tweet? Pandering to children on TikTok? Somehow leeching a big streamer? It's no longer possible to leech the biggest NijiEN streamer because no one is really a heavy hitter anymore, but maybe you could get someone actually famous to take you under their wing? One of the big NijiJPs? A holo? Is it even possible? Worst case scenario I fail and quit, best case scenario I make it big or fuck someone's oshi

>>76422643
I really hose they have day jobs. Otherwise they're going to be eating ramen every day like Vivi and Kunai.

>>76422643
>the homo has more subs than the girls

>>76472153
They've had time. Nearly 4 days worth. At this rate they won't even be able to beat the tutorial boss.

Do we know what TTT's sub counts looked like this far in?

>>76426156
blocked? So you use Nijidex

>>76473690
>>76428498

>>76474322
Shit thanks. If TTT turned out as grim as it did I can only imagine this wave kek

>>76473419
humiliating, can't even beat this lazy sex pest

>>76465305
At this rate they'll get TTT's 24h after their debuts

>>76474569
They've actually had a bit of a publicity (TTT had virtually none) and they actually have a gen/wave name (TTT had to come up with their name) so who knows?

The only thing I truly do not understand is why they all have 3x as many twitter followers as they do youtube subscribers. It's a well known fact that twitterfags and clipfags don't watch streams but why would 20k people follow a vtuber they don't care about enough to subscribe to? Especially when the general opinion of NijiEN on twitter is kind of negative so you don't get brownie points for following them, and they don't have a reputation like being "that meme shark" or "the singer girl" that the random twitter user might know and follow them for the hell of it.

>>76475800
It's sisters just trying to make ot seem like there's support.

>>76476108
But why not subscribe instead if that's the case? That's more important than bird app updoots.

>>76422643
rent free holofag. People sub on the day of new debuts, retard. Not surprised you idiots don't get it.

>>76476419
Because most sisters are retarded teenage girls and see twitter and twitter followers as the true metric of someone's worth. I can confidently say that most of them probably barely even watch clips - it's just about identity and being part of a community to them rather than actually enjoying the chuubas.

>>76476534
Ah I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

>>76435978
Sana/Kronii/Mel/Regloss/Ollie/all of holostars would suggest otherwise

>>76479087
Yeah you'd like to believe that wouldn't you nijinig?

>>76427428
Fuck no it ain't. There's two types of indies
>artists
>non-artists
Artists 100% of the time have the option of a pre-existing fanbase and connections: schmooze your way into a Discord server of artists and you'll probably find another vtuber to collab with.
Non-artists are the ones who have the issue you described.

>>76424557
Masochism

>>76475800
Elon doesn’t nuke bots. YouTube does. Assuming they even try to bot YouTube. Don’t even have to pay to get followed by Twitter bots.

>>76475800
twitter bots are probably cheaper than youtube bots.

>>76479087
>Ollie
Someone's never seen a concert.
Ollie shines on stage and the difference between Ollie on stage and ollie in a stream is kind of absurd.

>>76434017
I just wanted to call him Ryona because I thought that'd be a funny joke

>>76422643
yikes

>>76465305
13K milestone!!!

>>76422643
24 hours to debut

>>76465305
>>76484617
4 hours and just 200 subs...
They didn't even beat Vivi's 24h (14k)

>>76424557
It's still a big name and if your time in there is not really working out for you then you can just go indie after building a loyal fan base (if you can). Or maybe to VShojo or something. Just avoid drama and yab, especially avoid your senpais.

>>76424557
For male EN vtubers, yeah
It's the golden ticked for them
For female en vtubers? Just go for Idol/Phase/V4mirai, and you'll get more success with way less headache