/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

new costumes and hairstyles so they complement each other better

>>752465
fixed the logo :^)

>>752465
Yuribait, lot's of Yuribait.

Specially with Tomoshika who now has to push harder towards Pika and her audience and even try and learn some basic english or face the consequences of being the less popular member of the group.

Also, don't expect VOMS to survive this year, or at least not Tomoshika.

>>752494
This, because of the "2 only" dynamic, they have to stick together or the group will collapse like a fucking card tower.

>>752465
Gyari’ll probably hire a new member soon to fill the gap.

>>752888
https://youtu.be/d3j9GMfzk5Y
pikamee says it'll just be her and tmsk

>>752465
>>752888
I think Gyari will hire another group of girls instead.
Hiring one girl will mark her as the "Monoe replacement." which will be absolutely horrid for her. Not only that but I can assure you it's hard to make someone join in on a group of friends after someone just left, you'll feel the awkward atmosphere in VOMS if that were to happen.
The most likely scenario to me is that after Pika and TMSK are done grieving Monoe there'll be a new group of VOMS who will be their own group of friends, they'll give Pika and TMSK breathing room to be their own duo while also not explicitly getting a replacement for magnet.

>>752494
Tomoshika is sexycute. Please don't quit.

>>752940
nah they're done, pika is moving to hololive en gen 2

>>752997
I can see the other girls wanting to graduate after it not being the same without monoe, but they already said the two of them would continue doing VOMS.

>>752940
This is the only option. But I dont think Gyari wants another VOMS gen

>>752465
gyari will probably allow the girls apply to other companies and let them stream until they get a formal reply

>>752465
Rundown on what happened to magnet?

>>753678
she got fired. everything else is pure speculation

>>753678
got the metaphorical boot/talon from gyari after a non disclosed breach of contract. She's healthy and all the VOMS are fine just sad. It wasn't sudden either, they had talked it over and over but there wasn't anything they could do for Monoe apparently.

>>752465
it's time for VOMS to die.

I never expected something like this happen to VOMS.

>>752940
I think it'll just be an additional duo instead of another full group, because otherwise the complete newbies would be a full on majority which would be weird.

Any rrats on what this breach was?

>>752465
>monoe got fired for smoking pot
>TMSK has NTR fanfic streams, no problem
>Literal public pedophile Pikamee is not even reprimended

Okay, fair enough. I am done with VOMS

I don't really care about VOMS or watch them but losing a member always sucks. Hope something works out

>>753957
Most plausible rrat is drugs, although it's still quite a stretch. There's a thread going on right now with more rrats

>>753957
non-compete agreement violation. she's joining nijisanji

>>753957
Check the rrat thread, its either meeting people she shouldnt, using substances she shouldnt or trying to join another agency

>>753017
>but they already said the two of them would continue doing VOMS.
Of course they said that, just like Pikamee conveniently said she had OBS issues for the week prior to this

>>753977
Literally 2d vs 3d scenario.
2d gets you memed on.
3d gets you in jail or out of your job.

>>753957


She was exchanging nudes with minors using her official account, and even bragged with pikamee and tmsk about it. It got found out by one of the kids' parent and they went to the police about it. She was detained for questioning a couple of weeks ago. She thought she was off the hook due to "lack of evidence" but today they suddenly swooped in and told her she's going to get charged and jailed. Gyari found out about it and was furious because she did all this on her fucking official twitter, using her influence to do pedo shit. He's also furious at pika and tmsk for not stopping the kiddie magnet.

They need to hire more members, it may be a question of life and death to the group, I can't see it lasting long if the things stay as they are
Most probably things will go on as this anon said >>752940

>>754117
ogey

>>754117
damn

>>754138
Honestly, I'm kinda surprised the group hasn't added another duo at the least after how successful that Trio was.

>>753957
kinder egg smuggling

This fucking sucks.
I loved all three, they had really good chemistry. I don't think it will ever be the same for them. I hope that if they do graduate they move on elsewhere.

>>754117
I believe it. Especially since Pikamee is also a pedo, definetely could have enabled her

>>752494

>>752940
Would be cool if he just hired two more to make a quartet. Seems like they could do a lot of game collabs too since plenty of games are 4-player.

>>754173
Only Pikamee was successful enough to generate profit.
TMSK breaks even and Monoe was a financial drag.
I inagine Pikamee made enough money to cover for everyone, but still not enough to justify 3 more deadweights

>>754240
Pikamee is a lolicon. She frequently buys comic LO and one of their mottos is to keep it all within fiction. She knows the difference between irl and 2d. Monoe however, is into degenerate and extreme stuff in general, and doesn't limit it to just fiction.

>>754314
The fuck, how did I know none of this. I guess I'm not deep enough in the VTuber hole. So much for "family friendly."

>>754338
i don't know about monoe being a degen but pikamee really did accidentally tweet about comic LO and how, i shit you not, 9 is the best age (or was it 11?).

>>754314
Ah yeah, Pika is the lolicon but Monoe was walking DANGER like Holy shit levels of degenerate, and what's worse is that she probably looks normal but is quite literally, a degeneracy magnet.

>>754400
nice, but it should be the mama bird gyari instead of the logo

>>754117
>[headcanon]

ogey

>>754384
Ha, how do you accidentally tweet about that.

I don't think that's such a big deal as long as it is just 2d stuff. Pretty sure Marine has talked about loli/shota stuff as well. I haven't heard anything to support the whole Monoe story either, though.

>>754117
Have you tried fiction writing my dude? Seems like it would suit you.

>>754245
Thanks, Stalin.

>>754392
Where the fuck does this rrat come from all of a sudden

>>754264
I dunno if I believe that. Voms is unique in that GYARI doesn't actually take a cut of the money from the streams themselves, his money from voms is all from merchandising.

>>754384
>>754454
I never understood how girls could possibly like shit like loli, what would they find appealing in it?

>>754400
why not gyari?

>>754245
Still comfy, just a little less..

>>754384
>accidentally
She did intentionally you dumbfuck moralfags

>>754570
Nips are true degenerates anon, born and raised

I didn't even watch Monoe but it's always sad when someone has to leave, especially when it's unexpected

>>752465
TMSK and Monoe had a collab like 3 days ago, what the fuck was Monoe doing that both TMSK and Pika knew but didn't care enough to tell Gyari right away?
I guess it's nothing regarding leaking info or stealing money because TSMK and Pika would not tolerate this

Regardless I bet Gyari is fucking pissed and not only with Monoe but also TSMK and Pika

>>754744
this
>>754117

>>754781

>>754117
is pure fiction

With how small VOMS is Monoe had to have been warned numerous times or the yab was so big it resulted in instant termination

>>752465
Lookin' grim.

I think the fire one is going to flame out, and Pikamee is going to get a redesign.
New talents will be brought in to round out the roster, but y'know, it's going to stunt their growth indefinitely if this situation doesn't get some kind of real explanation.

Right now, the impression in general is just "it's shady and feels bad" so people are being pushed away.

>>754117
Nice one. Honestly Whenever I see one of these rrats I just take it as anons practicing their writing skills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmTNXLSn4ss&t=4439s

>>754781
>>754117
Gimmie a shred of evidence then.

>>754991
looking for a replacement to replace Monoe would 100% add salt to the wound. I hope they don't ghost her and pretend she never existed

>>755082
>I hope they don't ghost her and pretend she never existed
already done

>>755044
if you're unable to determine the veracity of a claim by virtue of its message alone, you're a retard.
magnet deserved to leave.

>>755126
kys retard

>>753957
she manipulated plate tectonics using her magnet and caused the big earthquake a few days ago.

>>754117
I realize magnetloli was pretty damn obscure, but I cant help but think one of the autistic fucks that seemingly do nothing find dox of vtubers would have already dragged up something about this if that was real.

Drugs seem more likely. you get sad if your friend gets fired for possession, you just get fucking angry at them if they get fired for sending nude pictures to minors.

>>755177
you have to be joking

>>752888
>>752923
no one would want to join this tiny group especially after what happened

>>755126
That's just a dumb thing to say. Veracity means 'conformity to facts'. You can't tell if a message is factual unless there is evidence to prove it. A message being virtuous would just mean it's morally good.

>>755177
>you just get fucking angry at them if they get fired for sending nude pictures to minors.
Pika would have joined in

>>755082
Literally already did.
Standard practice in idolshit companies.

Hololive has a gen 0 member that nobody is allowed to talk about, still, remember? Totally erased.

>>755333
>gen 0
she's gen 1 buddy

>>755126
Are you fucking retarded, that's not how proof works

>>755177
>you just get fucking angry at them if they get fired for sending nude pictures to minors
This is Japan nigga, not America where e-celebs kick their friends and colleagues when they're down to garner the favor of cancel culture dweebs.

Monoe did literally nothing wrong

>>755259
I think plenty of streamers would still be interested even after all this, especially given the fanbase Pikamee brings along with her. Though maybe being bilingual in Japanese and English would help.

>>755259
The girls are for the most part highly autonomous outside of being required to stream once a week or so and merch rights.

Unlike Cover who might have heavier control over them, some might enjoy the freedom.

>>755350
he's saying that if you can't tell that something is too stupid to be true then you need to get off this website

>>754991
>Right now, the impression in general is just "it's shady and feels bad" so people are being pushed away.

The guy probably thought he was hot shit when he fired Monoe unceremoniously, but it's going to bite him. Pikamee was crying on stream. Fans that only cared about Pika now care about Moneo getting axed. It could get out of hand. It's messy.

>>755364
You don’t have nearly enough information to make that claim

Everything I find enjoyment in is smashed upon the canyon floor.

>>754384
9 is the best age dayo

>>755346
Whatever.
She still got erased, so my point stands.

>>755833
They talk about her all the time, though.

>>755833
ok newfag

>>755833
Yeah after her debut stream
Everyone is crying a river over an underage who didn't have the intelligence to hold a job she just started.

>>756089
we're not talking about Aloe dumbass

>>756148
meant for >>755871 too

>>754245
It's the fact that they aren't in physical contact anymore. Makes it feel less like they're close friends.

>>754245

>>754245
stalin'd her ass out of existence

>>752888
If they dont. Hololive or Niji will take them

>>755259
>no one would want to join this tiny group especially after what happened
there are very tiny indies that would love to join. Shit plenty of EOPs would audition if they allowed for it

>>756491
What if it was all a dream?

>>756811
Niji most likely.

Cover wouldn't take them due to the idol aspect unless they get entirely new models (Even with the same basic design) to fit with the rest of the talent and later idol outfits.

Niji is most likely.

>>752465
I think the best way to sum up the outrage surrounding this firing, is the lack of information. She clearly fucked up enough to get fired. I think the driving force here is that people want to know if she is a bad guy or someone to root for. Like if she maliciously leaked identities, or put the girls in harms way, then a lot of people won't support her. But if she messed up by accident and is now paying the price, then people can show sympathy and support her next venture. But by keeping people in the dark, they create a situation where many would want to support her, but are cautious because they don't know what she did. I don't care that it's none of our business. Some transparency would save the day right now.

>>757001
>I think the best way to sum up the outrage surrounding this firing, is the lack of information.
Definitely this. Everyone seems to agree that the lack of information makes it look kinda shady and iffy, and people are repelled by the bad vibe it produces.

>>756881
Wake me right fucking now. It hurts more with the pass of time

>>757001
That's why it's tricky. If it was something super bad that put the girls at risk, I doubt they'd be crying through streams. But at the same time, according to the statement, they all agreed it had to happen, which I doubt would happen if she just made a dumb mistake.

>>756881
https://files.catbox.moe/ss4lhu.mp4

>>756971
Of course they'd be getting new models and characters. Voms characters are GYARI's IP.

>>757001
I'm more worried about the state of VOMS, and I don't know if GYARI is up for the amount of leadership required to move everyone forward beyond this despite the incredibly low morale pikamee and tomoshika will most likely have over the coming months

>>757100
I mean speculating is fun, but all we really can do is wait for an official explanation if GYARI will even give that. If he doesn't then lets have a good time speculating

>>754384
She has nice taste.

>>757241
Prediction:
GYARI says nothing.
Morale is low and stays low
After another month or two, fire girl quits.
Kettle tries to stick it out, but alone isn't going to be able to.
GYARI rushes to source more talents, but the rush job causes less screening and they end up coming out as duds who get minimal traction.
After a while, GYARI calls it quits and VOMS is over.
Pikamee will move on to another company, presumably with a redesign, but nobody else will be big enough to bounce back.

This is my theory for the next ~10 months.

>>754570
girls self insert into lolis being fucked by fat old men the same way guys self insert into shotas being fucked by oneesans anon

>>752465
Here's your new magnet

>>757465
>menhera punk slut
Is she lewd? This is important.

>>757485
She is lame, don't watch her.

>>757359
yeah that's kind of how i feel too

>>757465
This looks like Shadman art

>>757596
Hell no.

>>752465
VOMSstars, with me being Voberu Vomkoku

>>757636
Are you vibing son?

>>757191
My dad is an theatre actor, and he told me a story about 4 actors who were all siblings (their parents owned the theatre, so they were all hired). They were a fun bunch, and their acting was always very good thanks to their chemistry. And then the youngest of the group died, when he was Stabbed by a drug addict. The quartet never recovered. Even after a long period of grieving, theh could not capture that same energy again, and two of them quit. While what happened to VOMS girls isn't as serious, they still lost a member, and she might as well be dead to them, since they will never ever stream together again.

>>756491
Ok, wtf happened? She doxxed the others?

>>757893
We literally don't know, and the fact that nobody will tell us makes it worse.

>>757001
I think another thing here is cognitive dissonance. Vtuber fans are so used to the idea that if an unfortunate graduations happen, the anti's or management is always at fault, and the vtuber is the victim. But right now we might have a case where she deserved it, and thus we can't do the usual support and pity routine. But the key word is "might", in that we just don't know.

>>757893
Most likely reasons given what has been said is either Drugs or she was talking with other companies.

It's already been said but the best thing that can be done is to add new VOMS members as soon as possible (only after proper vetting and such), preferably two to avoid the "replacement" factor. While Pikamee and TMSK are great, VOMS has been built on a three-person dynamic, and I don't think having simply two members is going to cut it. Moving on from this unfortunate Monoe situation as soon as possible is the best way to recover and avoid the two remaining members from considering other options. The ball remains in GYARI's court.

>>752494
>new costumes and hairstyles so they complement each other better
make them emo

Eh maybe we'll get a 3rd girl or maybe Pikamee becomes more indie since she had a fan base and there isn't really any point to retire her design. My guess is we'll see more English streams and Pikamee will have to teach TMSK. I feel bad for Pikamee because she cried during her announcement and they all seemed to work together well.

>>758003
If GYARI decides to disband VOMS shortly after Holo_EN2 audition. There is going to me a quite the shitstorm

>>757456
Yaknow... that would explain a fucking lot about why so many of them chose the type of models that they do.

>>758122
I highly doubt this. I'm not buying any of the apocalyptic rrats some posters are coming up with because there's nothing to indicate VOMS hasn't been successful in its intended goals. I could only see it being disbanded if Pikamee and TMSK *really* take this hard and can't keep up an illusion of camaraderie with Monoe's departure, but I do think that could be addressed at least somewhat with new additions and perhaps even with the other two's input.

>>758122
Pikamee's not nearly fluent enough to do an entire English stream. A Gen 6 position however...

>>758248
if Korone and Luna can do it, then anyone can

>>757485
She is still a virgin.

>>758694
yeah and so am I, depending on who's asking, retard

While they'll continue for a while longer, they'll start throwing their resume to Hololive, Nijisanji or anyone big enough where people will recognize them instantly

>>758819
Hololive Gen 6 is a very big possibility. Pikamee is extremely recognisable to English viewers (and would not hide her ability to speak it) and Tomo would be quickly caught out if Pika is recognized.

I think the two would only join as a pair.

>>758900
i want this

>>758819
>>758900
>>759029
They are certainly much more qualified with much more extensive portfolios than anyone else that would apply. The only roadblock I could see if the idolfaggotry, since they aren't quite the idol types.

>>753977
Pedophilia is only frowned upon if you're male.

>Never really got into VOMs
>Find out about Magnet's singing skills and took a liking to it.
>Wake up today to see her getting fired
Shit sucks, I hope her singing streams get prioritized for archives if it's not too late

>>759050
>>759029
Ame didn't see herself as an idol type and they just said "lol, take lessons on the job" and Okayu also didn't consider herself one, since she joined for GAMERS, but went through it anyway.

Besides, they have also both worked with Hololive talent before (Pikamee did a collab in Among Us with Ojou and a good few others for example, and also expressed a desire to work with Gura)

>>759146
I think it did, there's a magnet (lel) link somewhere that some anon made. The archive thread is still up on the catalog

>>757780
It's certainly over if GYARI has no ambitions to expand VOMS. Its original structure is compromised and set to collapse under its own weight, a serious restructuring (Gen 2) is the only thing that can prevent VOMS from imploding.

>>752465
Someone better get on archiving everything tomoshka and pika have, who knows when this will happen again.

>>759296
The only way to repair this situation is if GYARI becomes the third member.

>>757359
This is the outcome right here, kinda sad to see just how willing all the white knights lept to defend the sanctity and honor of a corporate marketing guy hiding behind a contract, giving us no information and immediately depersoning Monoe without getting her side of the story or even a goodbye stream, must be American conditioning. Hopefully the Japanese have a bit more courage and try to get the whole story

>>759972
Japanese corporations are much worse than American ones in that regard.
It's all that "saving face" culture they have.

>>760062
>corporations
How about their legal system? And Chinks take the concept to even worse levels.
Face is too damn important in the East and there needs to be a culture shift 'cuz shit's fucked over there.

>>760062
>Japanese corporations are much worse than American ones
Has anyone in Japan ever been fired for having a gab account?

>>758900
Wouldn't they be too late for Gen 6 though? I wouldn't be surprised if the members for Gen 6 are already picked and close to debut since HoloJP has permanently open auditions

>>760316
Dude, in Japan it's normal practice for people to get fired for having normal human relationships and (in some industries at least) for not working themselves basically to death.

I've also heard rumors and horror stories about dudes being fired for not doing sexual favors for their (male) bosses, or women getting molested by their bosses and fired for speaking out.

>>759972
Are you fucking retarded? If anything the global audience will pressure for details and the JP audience will accept the lack of disclosure.
Also, it may be for the best that no details are given. If it turns out that Monoe did something that is actually illegal or it really was her fault, she would be harassed forever. It's actually more likely that she really has done something wrong, if she hadn't she could go public about it.

>>754744
>>754117

>>752837
Damn, there's a lot of vtubers I didn't expect to survive this year, but I didn't think all of VOMS would be a casualty...

Even if VOMS dies, Pika will be reborn, right bros?
Please say you think she'll come back. I don't want to lose the QT bilingual hafu lolicon. She's the only good vtuber I can understand.

>>753977
>NTR
She's dead to me.

>>760849
I believe she'll be back if VOMS folds, but of course not with the same model, since Corporate Intellectual Property is sacred© and holy™, which is fine with me because I enjoy the actual talent, and don't give two shits about marketing bird man or his contractual masturbatory power fantasy

>>757456
Not true, according to Pikamee she doesn't self insert and just likes to watch. She is interested in the loli.

>>755126
this is the most autistic thing i've ever read in my entire life

>>760955
Link?

>>759059
This. My mom must have done every little boy she got her hands on, but the law gave her 3 years prison time. Had she been a guy, it would have been 30 years, and she would have been nurdered on the first day.

>>760946
VOMS isn't some big corporate thing, it's literally just Gyari and some Vtubers. It's basically just his choice as to whether or not they keep anything.

Given how Pikamee sounded sympathetic and wished Monoe well in the future, it makes me think whatever happened was better left unsaid so it didn't impact Monoe further. Something bad enough for her to be let go but not bad enough to make Tomoshika and Pikamee want to never mention her again. Pikamee also said they knew this was coming for at least a few days (and Gyari's statement said this was done after talking with all three) so it was some ongoing issue.

>>756491
BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES

>>759296
>Expand or Die
Architects win again

>>754570
Same way there are guys who like shota. It's not complicated. There are way more female lolicons than you think, they just have a much easier time hiding it.

>>761188
Fucking hell, this pisses me off. On the one hand they are crying because of het departure. On the other hand, she did something so wrong, that a notoriously chill group of friends, straight up fired her. Not even a suspension otmr anything. Just poof and gone. So many things about this incident, don't add up. There are like three contradictions here.

>>759972
>must be American conditioning. Hopefully the Japanese have a bit more courage and try to get the whole story
Hahah, what fucking bizarro world do you live in newfag?

>>761061

>>761354
If it were something so terrible that everyone despised her, we would have heard either everything (She did ____ and she cannot be trusted) or nothing (She's fired. End of discussion.) Instead we got some vague description that it wasn't a overnight thing, that Monoe is healthy, and that the other two were clearly sad she had to leave. It is trying to combine three statements from different people so it doesn't add up but we're not going to be given anything else.

It's over, sell the assets to Hololive so Pikamee can keep her character.

I really believed they were all indies and this would never happen

Will the VOMS project recover from this?

>>761620
At least have the decency to sell it to Nijisanji

>>761061
That kid on xbox told you "I fucked your mom last might" wasn't lying

>>761665
I'm kinda 50/50 on it, if everyone can move on it'll probably be fine but at the same time I don't think they'll be able to and this will linger over everyone's head in some way shape or form. even if they don't talk about it, it'll probably be a huge downer that they'll have to carry with them going forward. This isn't like hololive or something where one person getting shitcanned leads to some sad feelings and then life goes on, VOMS was a very close-knit group of literally just four people.

>>761665
It has some momentum to keep it going, for now, but there probably will need to be another duo added. This whole thing made me want to watch Pika and TMSK more.

>>761744
On the personal level, it could also be fine if they still talk. If whatever happened wasn't to the direct harm of Pikamee & Tomoshika and Gyari. Like some theories Monoe was stealing money or giving away their information, I do not believe those.

>>761061
And you're telling me you didn't get a turn?

>>761620
Oh god, imagine if Pikamee has a run-in with Hololive bugmen?

>>759050
>They aren't quite the Idol types
>Idols
>Hololive

You have to be a literal whore camgirl getting fucked live for you to be considered "not idol lile" for Hololive.
And even then, Kiara made it in despite an extensive gallery of porn on her portfolio (yes gravure is porn, deal with it).

>>761665
Expand or immediately call it quits. Holding on to Pikamee would look really sketchy if they decide to do it after Holo auditions

>>757001
This issue is transparency is rarely an option for contractual stuff.

>>755386
>especially given the fanbase Pikamee brings along with her
except most of Pikamee's fans didn't sub to or watch the others...

>>761665
I think VOMS will be fine, but if it does collapse, Pikamee is going to be the #1 free agent on the indie vtuber market. You can bet your ass that Nijisanji and Cover would be stabbing the shit out of each other in courting her. It really all hinges on what TMSK wants to do going forward.

>>761862
I'm surprised Kiara was let in considering some of that stuff, yeah. Also, still looking for a torrent.

Anyway, Pika and TMSK would have no problems at all. They already have established fanbases, quite a large one in Pika's case.

>>761906
That's exactly why being bilingual would help. I think the language barrier is too much for most non-JP speakers to watch full streams.

>>761665
I will not watch or donate until i’m satisfied this is not some retarded japanese honor culture bullshit

>>761916
If Pikamee and TMSK go free, they are not going to Nijisanji. TMSK used to be a nijigirl before, and she talked about how shit it was. Ended up leaving to audition for VOMS.
Imagine how bad it was that she left NIJISANJI, the biggest agency at the time, for a random personal idea Gyari had that may or may not have worked out.
I imagine TMSK must have relayed Pikamee what transpired and probably will convince her to never work for Ichikara

>>757928
Moreover the idiots with the "don't make waves! Don't make waves!" mentality trying to get people to just gloss over and drop it, rattling on how "it's better to not look into it" as if that doesn't just incite more speculah and bullshit.
Within a week faggots will be descending on any mention of monoe like they do on mention of aloe or the dropped holostars guy or ded ninisanji peeps, and lack of info makes shutting up such shitlords all the harder. Shit's a knife in the gut to fans and poison to communities in general.

I don't want Pika and TMSK to go to Hololive, especially if only one would be accepted and it completely fragments the VOMS group. I'd rather see VOMS expand to try to bring in new interest and potential. Or maybe some very slim chance in the future that Monoe could return if the issue was a personal one she can fix and prove she's better. If whatever was done was truly shitty then Pikamee would not have said to support Monoe if you find her somewhere else.

>>761862
isn't gravure something actual idols in japan do all the time?

>>761718
underrated roast holy shit

>>762093
Since Gyari is overall a chill guy and VOMS was very lax with rules, it gives me the impression that NOT saying what happened is the best thing they could have done for Monoe. She did something wrong but there will be those who cling to her like a martyr for some cause and that will be annoying.

>>762107
>I don't want Pika and TMSK to go to Hololive
then buy the rights of their designs off of GYARI

>>761862
The point was that they are not really singers you fucking spastic. Shove your (You)'s up your ass and go bother someone else with your schizoid anti shit.

>>762024
>she talked about how shit it was
When was this?

>>753977
>believing the ESL retards rrat
I know the VOMs threads are filled with ESLs, but come on man.

>>754117
So, the natural followup: what drugs?

>>762314
drugs are such a boring rrat, they obviously weren't affecting her work. here's a better one: Monoe intentionally sabotaged Pikamee's computer because of her seething jealousy

>>762314
The worst one of all...weed

Fuck bros my Monoe jacket is arriving in March and I don’t even know how to feel about it anymore. If she commited tax fraud or some other stupid shit I’d wear it with pride but since the retarded bird is being vague about everything...

>>762432
Wear it with pride and remember what he took from you

>>762024
Pro nijiniggers will ignore this post.

>>762024
What did she say about Niji specifically

>>762483
You’re right anon time to stick it to the man

>>762024
>>762501
>>762522
???
She was never in Nijisanji.

>>754570
Girls pretend they're the loli

>>762110
we are not /jp/ anymore there are newfags here plase andastand

Reminder

>>753977
>TMSK has NTR fanfic streams
Were they good?

>>763508
shell be fine.png

>>763508
>subtly admits he's crossthreading
probably a shitposter too. Disgusting.

>>763508
Yikes that didn't age well

>>755177
It's not drugs because drugs are one of the most serious crimes in Japan and you will face a death sentence or jail time just for hinting you smoked weed when you were overseas. They mentioned she's healthy and fine and can still stream so it's nothing that illegal either.

>>756148
Obviously I know who we're talking about. Do you?
She's an unintelligent underage girl who did something far stupider than Aloe and got erased for a reason.

>>764102
Because Cover couldn't provide equipment to their employees so she had to look elsewhere?

VOMS will be fine
The next few streams will be weird but after that things will be good

>>764228
Hopefully this will push Gyari to find VOMS gen 2

>>752465
The future is a crippled group struggling to survive. Since they just kicked one of the primary members without explanation aside from "breach of contract". It'll be difficult for them to survive, if at all. Since a duo does NOT do as well as trio.

>>764228
The Minecraft server is going to be dumb as hell with only two people though, that's something that's fun to stream with a group.

>>764188
Are you serious with this whiteknight shit
Reddit started hearing little bits about the forbidden one and tried to immediately take her side, that was the funniest shit I'd ever heard. Can't believe you weirdos are here now too.
The nicest company in the world wouldn't hire someone who sucks dick for gear then turns around and scams the dude. Especially not on the hypothetical fucking probation period.

>>764427
The Minecraft server is gonna be full of Remnants Of Monoe and I fully expect TMSK to tear up on stream if she comes across Monoe's little cabin.

>>764188
It was gen 1, Cover just had Sora and could barely afford the iphones they handed out because both their app and free VR game tanked.

It's all her fault for whoring herself out for equipment and then wanting to #metoo the guy she whored to.

>>762540
>She was never in Nijisanji.
Lurk moar.

>>763508
Why was he banned?

>>764624
cute boy

Every popular vtuber should have a fan that archives all of their material in case this kind of stuff happens again. God I hope it doesn't happen again...

>>764427
A normal server with just three people is already kinda dumb

>>760367
>I've also heard rumors and horror stories about dudes being fired for not doing sexual favors for their (male) bosses, or women getting molested by their bosses and fired for speaking out.
Imagine being so sheltered that you think that's a Japanese-exclusive issue

>>764697
I-I will save the SM64 streams. Just for safe.

>>764716
I would say three is the absolute lower limit for a Minecraft server, with the idea that you'll be growing that eventually. Now they don't even have that, not good.

>>764761
Clearly this guy was Japanese.

>>764697
If I was a v-tuber I'd mirror all of my steams to an archive and then anonymously link to it once I got fired

>>758248
Yes she is lmao

>>764667
for an epic screenshot

>>764624
Would you have known about VOMS' existence without the stickied Monoe thread yesterday?

>>760367
>Dude, in Japan it's normal practice for people to get fired for having normal human relationships

Don't American companies have rules against office relationships?

>>764960
Mostly if a boss is attempting a relationship with one of their employees. The power imbalance there is dangerous.

>>764960
No, I work for a big pharma company in the US, like literally a billion dollar company full of boomers, and there's no rules. My manager married a co worker. Now someone did get fired over BLM stuff they posted on Facebook.

>>764509
Very well said

Monoe backstabbed Gyari. Simple as.

>>764960
Well Funi don't have rules against office relationships, but if you don't have a relationship with one of the vas they're liable to get you kicked for anything.

>>752465
i'm ordering her phone stand thing rn from the overseas store

phew you scared me OP, I thought Pikamee was gone, but it was just Literally Who #2

>>765084
Maybe she did, but as long as they don't tell us about it, it feels like it's the other way around.

>>765530
it has been done magnet bros
soon i will be a proud owner of magnet

>>754117
so a magnet's downfall was just being too attractive?

>>764960
Unless there's a power dynamic, not typically. Though people dissuade others from doing so just because it can be a headache for the people involved and the company if not handled properly.

http://poal.me/za89s9
http://poal.me/za89s9
http://poal.me/za89s9

I want to lick pika! I want to sniff pika's butt! I want pika's chubby butt on my face! I want pika to say "iine iine" as she rubs my cock! I want to pound pika's ass and listen to her wheeze!

>>765530
>will never be able to buy magnet merch
HAHAHAHAHAHA TIME TO DIE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What if this is a publicity stunt and Monoe will be back in 2 months? Worked for that one niji bully Saku.

>>764667
Probably got caught shitposting.

>>765850
dumbest rrat so far.

>>765850
>If you are found in possession of cannabis in Japan for personal use you could receive a maximum prison sentence of five years
2 months seems unlikely

>>764667
Because it literally happened the moment he posted that.

>>764960
American companies can fire you for having socks the wrong colour, they're the last to be allowed to give lessons to japan

>>765850
That would only damage GYARI's reputation

>>754245
>>756491
Fuck you, anon

>>765680
i just want them all to be happy

Just so all the newfags and kids get it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noriko_Sakai
https://www.tokyoreporter.com/crime/denki-grooves-pierre-taki-i-started-using-cocaine-and-marijuana-in-my-20s/
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/03/13/yakuza-spin-off-judgment-pulled-from-sale-in-japan-after-drugs-scandal?amp=1
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-47553857

Do drugs in Japan = get retroactively erased from existence.

>>766147
Based and true fan pilled.

She passed the audition for gen 6.

Monoe found out something about gyari that couldn't be made public so she was taken out.
The other VOMS signal about this in their responses.

>>761916
I don't think pika would be fine with being forced to be an idol. Niji would be the likely place for that scenario. But she has collabs with niji vtubers before so it will be common for people to refer to her voms name than whatever redesign she will be given.

Here's my bullshit theory.
She either committed or was a victim of a horrific, newsworthy crime and GYARI "fired" her for "contract violation" instead of announcing a sudden retirement and have people connect the dots and trace the person to the avatar and (indirectly) to GYARI and his vtuber group.

>>766209
God I hate the influence Britain has had on japan.

>>758248
There have been multiple EN streams done by her you absolute autist. Regardless, I don't think there's any chance of her going to holo.

>>762024
Mito was talking mad shit about the company around that time to.

What are the narratives on 5ch?

>don't care about vtubbers
>start watching VOMS because I like GYARI songs
>this happens
well shit

>>766209
Just don't do drugs then???

>>766455
weed does no harm on a fully developed adult brain, anything harder than that people shouldnt do.

>>766278
Elaborate

>>766553
That's not the point retard, read.

Is this the voms general?

>>766209
>I don't feel so good Miss. Pikamee...

>>766600
Well I fucking guess so, 00 Satan.

>>766419
Because pre-2019 Ichikara was almost a black company in how badly they treated their talent. They had to restructure because they almost tore themselves apart.

That said, you're reading a massive rrat. TMSK isn't ex-Niji. We're only getting this shit in the threads because a mod stickied a Monoe thread, holomutts learned about the existence of VOMS and now they're scanning the board for threads to shitpost in.

>>766600
/voms/ thread guys too sad to make a /vo_s/ thread.

>>766570
The other members contradict themselves many times. They have to be dishonest or else they may be on the receiving end of GYARIs punishment or maybe framed for what he has done. Knowing that they are lying on piece of information both tomoshika and pikamee starts to stand out. Once you figure that out its fairly simple to work out exactly what they are trying not to tell you

>>766600
the recent one reached bump limit so i guess until the OP of the general makes a new one yes


>>765780
I'm currently downloading her archive
it's 184.5 gigs in total
putting it on an external
it may take awhile

>>766278
Plagiarism?

Does the secret lie within the last few Monoe streams? Are they translated?

>>761620
Ok can someone help me understand the company-vtuber relationship? How fucking expensive is this model that letting Pikamee have it in the case they dissolve is out of the question?

>>766756
same, my upload and download speed is equal at around 3.5MB/s

>>766689
>Vox Onsters

>>766829
She always acted like she was baked 24/7 so no one can fucking tell.

>>766829
This is it, isn't it? That's why her videos are privated

>>766829
Why do you think """they""" took down the streams anon? The puzzle is a lot harder to solve when you take a few pieces out of the equation

>>766600
>no schedule
>no streams
>just rrats and drama
Last general got archived, no need for a new one right now satan, Nice dubs though.

>>766042
Well GYARI'S reputation is already damaged for not giving any proper info.

>>766695
What did they contradict each other on?

>>757047
>Everyone seems to agree that the lack of information makes it look kinda shady and iffy
Underage autist confirmed. These are companies, not tabloids. Even mentioning that the termination was due to breach of contract is plenty of transparency. Lack of transparency would have just been killing the channel, erasing her from the voms website, and telling everyone to not say a single word about it.

>>766935
It's common practice to delete or private every video from a company youtuber when they quit or are fired

God the absolute depression this is causing is just painful. I wish companies didnt go scorched earth with no explanation apart from "contract violation"

She probably got a better offer and quit. As far as I'm aware most vtuber agencies sign them up for X amount of time and just renew the contract afterwards, so it would be a breach of contract to just up and leave. Pikamee and Tomoshika got understandably upset because she didn't tell anyone until the last moment.
If anything serious happened 5ch would probably discover it already

>>765850
Not the same shit stupid.
Sasaki was strong arming the company into doing their fucking job and getting her Nintendo permissions.

Why is no one thinking she straight up died?

>>767159
stfu nijinigger, noone asked you

>>767178
This rrat has been posted multiple times already...

It can't be drugs since that doesn't constitute a "serious breach of contract", usually when someone gets in legal trouble in Japan it gets disguised as "personal issues" to avoid embarrassment to the individual and family (unless you're someone famous or a public servant), specially if it's something related to drugs or some serious crime, she obviously did something that royally pissed Gyari off, Pika and maybe Tmsk tried to intercede but it was all in vain.

>>767178
She did die, and GYARI played a role in making that happen

>>767178
If she died, why would they say she was fired for contract violation? All that would do is slander her name in death, when they could say literally anything else instead.

>>765924
>maximum
Well discounting social ramifications how long is the typical sentence?

You fuck all know that if it's as bad as we think it's better not to say. Even for magnet's sakes, at the moment she's only black listed from other Vtuber companies, shit can get much worst for her.

>>767198
Nah you disinformation whore.
Go back to your tribe.

>>767462
neck yourself faggot

>>766845
It's not really a matter of money or tech, but the rights to intellectual property. GYARI owns VOMS, the characters under it, the BGM they use etc. and it's entirely up to him to let the girls keep their characters going indie, or just shutter the whole project. There's a chance he'd let them keep the characters if VOMS shattered, but considering the theme of the group, it'd make little sense for the characters to be split across different agencies.

This has happened before with Project Paryi, for example; the group shattered, but Paryi (the artist and manager for everyone in the group) chose to let the girls keep their characters as they went indie. Kagura Mea is the most high-profile Project Paryi survivor. Corporates are much more anal about protecting their IP, thus, Nijisanji and Hololive would definitely not let their talent just walk with their current designs.

>>767491
Nope.

>>767499
with the way things are going right now i have a feel VOMS isn't even going to make it to the end of the year
especially if what this tardlord is saying is true but then again he may just be a holotard trolling(>>766695)

>>754245
Shadows are forever

>>766695
List em. You're on an anonymous basket weaving forum

>>767248
>that doesn't constitute a "serious breach of contract
>>766209

>>767248
I'm thinking this. The more I go back and listen to both girls' announcements, especially Pika's since she's horrible at masking things, the more I believe that at least she herself didn't really understand why he did what he did, or at least HOW he did it. Pika continually lets slip that she's confused and doesn't really know what to say, so it's almost like she knew for a bit what was going to happen (hence the hiatus) but didn't fully understand why it had to come to such an unceremonious death blow.

everyone thinking that Nijisanji or HL or any other company will take Monoe need to realize that monoe, her character, likeness, etc. are all intellectual property that belongs to Gyari, a long-time media content creator. Parody maybe, but Monoe will likely never show up in similar creator circles ever again.

>>761829
Actually I did, but it was a long time ago, and I hold no hard feelings against her. I mean if a person is sick in the head, It's not their fault.

>>764101
I remember a post on 2ch or somewhere like that where a nip had weed from Colorado, with the label still on it. Japan isn't as crime free as they like to look, they just only go for conviction if they know they can get you

>>767663
But nijisanji took multiple indies under them, like Kuzuha. Obviously they gave them a new character, but Monoe still has a chance at joining other companies if that "breach of contract" wasn't too bad.

>>767037
Lol. This is the textbook perfect way to handle a breach of contract. This is not GYARI's fault, companies must protect the use of their likeness and adhere to terms of the contracts they set. Contract terms protect you from litigation.

>>767663
fuck gyari for doing that honestly
don't care how respected he is he ruined her chances of getting into another talent company

>>767325
They try to go hard, I think. Nips only go to court if there's little doubt of conviction

>>767499
Yeah I guess I associated the voice with the model too much instead of looking at it as a VA voicing a character in a bigger production.

>>767037
>>767725
i think his reputation is going to be more damaged for the fact that he announced it was a contract violation to begin with.

>>767559
>holotard trolling
Right now, every in-depth theory is almost certainly this. We have absolutely no concrete information beyond the fact that Monoe's gone due to a contract breach, and because the mods stickied the thread yesterday, we have a shit ton of holoniggers prowling VOMS threads, trying to sniff out a tasty rrat.

>>767624
All celebrities in Japan get roasted for the most insignificant shit, in the case of a relatively obscure semi-independent vtuber getting fired for drug related crimes and your manager releasing a statement about "serious breach of contract" doesn't make any sense unless GYARI was some kind of anti-drugs activist or something like that.

>>767722
Nijisanji doesn't exactly have a good track record in developing female talents. She would be left to rot and bullied there.

>>767624
Read >>767248 until the end, retard. Nobody knows who Tomoshika is, so it'd make more sense to announce that she's quitting due to personal circumstances to avoid unnecessary attention, both to her and, more importantly, to VOMS.

>>753977
>>Literal public pedophile Pikamee is not even reprimended

Nobuhiro Watsuki.

>>767894
Yeah, as compared to the company that deletes your archives, leaves you alone fighting against bugmen, kicks you out for shit you've done in the past, kicks you out without giving a reason, shadowbans you from events, puts you on forced break for mentioning Taiwan, and so on.

>>767983
Oh right I forgot about giving your antis mod powers in chat.

>>767722
>But nijisanji took multiple indies under them, like Kuzuha
Kuzuha the character is an IP, owned either by the person behind Kuzuha, or Nijisanji. Much like Suisei the character is an IP owned by the person behind Suisei, but utilized by Hololive (also, all models and costumed created for Suisei are owned by Hololive, despite the character belonging to her).

Basically, if Nijisanji wanted Monoe the character, they'd have to negotiate for the character rights with GYARI. If they reached agreement, GYARI could sell the character to them, and Nijisanji would then be able to run Monoe as she was in VOMS, with or without the person originally behind her.

>>767894
>>767983
You and your rrats don't belong in these threads.

>>767873
>unless GYARI was some kind of anti-drugs activist or something like that.

He's covering his ass in case she gets herself arrested eventually and we end up with an actual police investigation.

>>767983
You forgot manager being a stalker. And with all this they are still the best company in the industry.
>>768037
How fucking new are you? Nobody said anything about a .png file, when people talk about reincarnations, it's always about person, not a drawing.

>>768037
>without the person originally behind her.
And we all know how that ends.

>>768147
>Nobody said anything about a .png file
damn it's like there's been multiple posts about selling the character for the whole day

>>768147
>And with all this they are still the best company in the industry.
holocope

>>768147
>Nobody said anything about a .png file
If you look at the chain of replies, you'll notice that the discussion was specifically about IPs, you absolute fucking spastic. Go deepthroat a kitchen knife before you impart any further insights on anyone else.

>>768262
Seethe Nijinigger
>>768301
The whole day discussion was about a person, until you, a single newfag:
>>767663
>>768037
>>768301
showed up and turned it into a discussion about drawing. I'm fed up with you fucking retards from global.

>>768512
Congrats on being a complete autistic failure. Also, go the fuck back to your holoshitter threads already and leave VOMS alone.

>>768512
Oh no he stupid.

>>751960
Wait is that legal?

I don't get it. If they knew about this for a while, why are they so teared up?

Watching Pikas first stream back will be hard, 99% sure she wont be cheerful. Hearing her cry in her announcement was hard enough... I'm sure Tomoshkas next stream will be the same... nobody here better bring up Monoe and make things worse.

>>769228
Knew that monoe had done something she might have to go for, but the decision hadn't been made yet and really hoping it wasn't going to come down to that, probably.

>>762024
This is complete bullshit. Tomoshika graduated at the time because she was going to live overseas and she couldn't do things in JP for Nijisanji JP.

If you have such proof that she said anything like that, please post a video.

>>769228
to be honest, this really sounds more like she applied for another company and only told the girls about it but he found out anyway while they probably begged him not to fire her but he fired her anyway since they don't really seem to resent her or anything.

>>766652
No, TMSK was nijisanji, but she graduated.

>>760849
of course she will, she has nothing else

>>769951
I dont think that would merit crying, also would gyari really be so spiteful as to call it a breach of contract instead of just letting her go immediately unceremonously?

>>761862
>Kiara made it in despite an extensive gallery of porn on her portfolio (yes gravure is porn, deal with it).
You reek of SEAnigger you worthless fuck.

Have a free (you) and go hang yourself.

>>766652
>holomutts
MUH BOOGEYMAN

>>769551
They will. And it'll be in red superchats too.

>>763579
not really because they were made on the fly, but i belive she could make a good one

>>769948
If she stopped living in Japan, why can't she speak English?

>>767935
Didn't he do jail time?

>>764564
nah, Tomoshika is more professional than she looks like

>>765084
i dont care if she backstabbed GARI, as long as she didnt backstab Pikamee i would simp again

>>769228
my assumption is that she was put on thin ice for something (prevailing theory is drugs but it could be anything) and told it was a three strikes thing, and either after the 100k stream or in the last 24 hours she got that strike 3.

>>769228
because she is gone, they probably wont collab again or the expulsion would be meaningless