/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>using literal unsub bots
that's a new low

>>76316795
sub to her then

i can literally imagine how these losers huddle together in discord circlejerking up excuses and deflections like "it's actually good that these hecking chuds are leaving"

>>76316970
I'm also unbuying your concert tickets, what will you do about it?

!aaaaaaayroD

>>76316970
>unsub bots
How the fuck would that even work?

Those people who unsubbed were never true fans to begin with. I'm sure if they see it from the perspective of tourists getting culled they won't feel that bad about it.

Petra likely next

>>76316970
???????????? so are you implying there are people out there who mass sub with bots, solely for the very specific scenario where a vtuber is close to losing a milestone so they can suddenly mass sub from them and make them drop from 500k to 499k? wow people sure plan for everything, huh? like keeping a metal plate on your butt cheeks cause there's a possibility you might get stabbed in the ass

>>76317139
First you create a virus under link titled "Vox massive dong". Then you wait for Nijisisters to click it. Using virus they downloaded you hack into their YouTube accounts and unsubscribe from all of NijiEN.

>>76317435
Why not just take their money from their bank account instead?

>>76317520
What money?

Someone post the Finana copypasta of all the dumb shit shes done.

>>76317520
1) it's funnier this way
2) they don't have any money anyway
3) they don't even have bank accounts, they get paid in gift cards

>>76317156
This would make sense except sisters don't watch her either

>>76316795
Deserved

>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
https://files.catbox.moe/p211o3.jpg

>male crashing Pomu+Finana yuribait off-collabs as a "surprise"
https://files.catbox.moe/9zbe28.png

>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night" despite the male being planned all-along
https://files.catbox.moe/95urxj.jpg

>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
https://files.catbox.moe/7qnonr.png

>Finana has a menhera meltdown on twitter about how nobody draws her in group fanart and cancels streams because of it
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1516160827069456386

>Finana jumps in during the drama with her infamous "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" tweet (somehow this doesn't stop her from doing valentines dates and sell wedding ring merch though)

https://files.catbox.moe/q36ffe.jpg

>Finana menheraposts on twitter about "trap" being a slur and bans the word, tells viewers to "educate themselves", then promptly backpedals unbans it and apologizes after backlash
https://files.catbox.moe/3079fs.png
>>/vt/thread/27228440

>Finana gets caught joining a fan discord server with her official account where she constantly joins vc and plays games with its members, gets bonked by management and is forced to leave it only for her to create an alt account and join again behind management's back, causing her biggest paypigs to leave her over the preferential treatment to the members of the server
https://rentry.org/fmcox
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547730451938168836
https://web.archive.org/web/20220714153830/https://pastebin.com/f94aCCuS

>Finana's aforemention discord groomer circle leaks her Nijisanji audition tape
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547736242330079233
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4
>Arranged an off-collab with Pomu at a hotel. The basis of the collab was that Finana's parents wanted her to have another woman around that she trusted while she went to HoyoFair (gacha shit). Finana snuck Uki (a gay male) into the collab after telling everyone (including Pomu and her parents) that it was a girls' night off-collab.
>Also, during that trip, Finana's cards declined because she's abhorrently terrible with money, so Pomu had to pay for everything, and probably never got paid back. Pomu herself brought it up as the reason the last LazuLight off collab was just her and Elira; Finana couldn't show up and Pomu wasn't paying for her.
>Finana hung out in a Ryugard discord, as Finana, which naturally resulted in certain Ryugards getting preferential treatment over others. When paypigs out of the loop complained, management told her to get out of that discord, which she did, then almost immediately rejoined under a second account.
>Among other things she may or may not have done in that discord, she leaked her Nijisanji audition tape, played games in Discord calls, and did ASMR for them.
>She's fucking retarded with finances in general; constantly spends her income on sneakers and gacha. Ryugards may have single-handedly funded Honkai Star Rail with how many rolls she's done on their dime.
https://rentry.org/fmcox

>Finana has been playing offline with her fans and breaking contract
>She joined a fan server and was not shy to say who she was
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547730451938168836
>After people started talking she stayed hidden on the discord
https://files.catbox.moe/zieaj7.png
>She later left the server and stayed in contacted with the mods of said server
>>27036935
>Her reason for leaving was not public knowledge until
https://youtu.be/zGtcE-lyTUM?t=11440
>We later see her fans from the same mod group playing with Ouren, her XIV boyfriend from years back
https://files.catbox.moe/ts8eop.png
>She has all those same mods as steam friends
https://web.archive.org/web/20220713224206/https://steamcommunity.com/id/nami_rin/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220713225343/https://steamcommunity.com/id/oreothefrog/friends/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220713224548/https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198404034628/friends/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220713224807/https://steamcommunity.com/id/Fonzieone/friends/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220713225753/https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199099300042/friends/
>She even shared her audition video, a clear break of contract
https://youtu.be/P0mLQ-8IrFI
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4
>She shared the audition to all of those new "Friends" who are small time wanabee vtubers, to audition to Nijisanji
https://mobile.twitter.com/LarryKameo
https://mobile.twitter.com/DGBCH11
>Her reason to ban the "Trap" and "Futa" was because of that new friend group
https://twitter.com/oreothefrog/status/1542296351005970433
https://twitter.com/zhngls/status/1542401115240955904

>>76317740
SHE GASLIT MEEEEEEEEEEE

>>76317351
I would call then schizo, but I'm pretty sure there were people who did something similar to this with Kiara back in the days

>>76317740
Thanks anon, I will add it to the book

>>76316795
Conglatulations!

>>76317351
>>76317906
>>76317139
it's a shitpost anons he is not being serious....

>>76316795
Conglatulations Feesh!

>>76316970
Wait, she is kinda based.

>>76316795
Honestly, after the 3D debut and Pomu leaving there's no reason to be following her. Nothing to look forward to at all but more gacha slop. Why would be not cut their losses when they realize how futile it is to stay? And that is not getting into the company issues yet.

>>76318600
yea

>Among other things she may or may not have done in that discord, she leaked her Nijisanji audition tape, played games in Discord calls, and did ASMR for them.
>and did ASMR for them
THIS shit is unironically why Im upset with her. Her ASMR is the only thing shes good at and its clear everyone thinks the same way. Go to her youtube channel right now and sort her live vids by popular. Its all her ASMR vids where she makes blowjob noises. Shes just too much of a bitch to admit she was designed to drain men of their cum.

>>76316795
Oh no

>>76316795
you with what you fucking sow retard fish.

>>76317139
>>76317351
Newfags/Dramafags are so easy to bait

>>76316795
>finana lost the milestone before petra despite having had more subs to start with
holy shit, I actually called it. >>76205856
can't say I'm surprised. her sub bleed was already faster than most of the others despite her not being directly tied to the selen drama, so it stands to reason that her subcount would dip even harder once she finally got caught up in another yab.

Finana would easily be the biggest corpo chuuba joke if mikeneko didn't exist. Girl just wasn't cut for this industry.

>>76319116
Regarding your Petra question, she's a genuine Niji JP fan and fan of vtubing in general and also a hard worker with artistic talent - however she is very quiet and has hard time opposing anyone. She kinda blames herself for not speaking up and letting Kurosanji EN devolve as it did. I feel sorry for her.

>>76316795
>>76319116
wait a sec, no she didn't. still says she's at 500k.
what are you trying to pull here, OP?

>>76319699
Some sisters probably made alt accounts after seeing this thread.

>>76319699
She's right on the edge teetering back and forth as her fans try to make alt accounts to resubscribe and keep her from slipping.

>>76319760
Fagoons felt bad and undid the unsub bots.

https://twitter.com/24EN_notifybot/status/1629871939719254020

she ends streams early to play with valogards and her xiv bf; she lies to fans and doesn’t care about them; she plays interesting games with the vlg and does boring ones on stream; the vlg doesn’t watch her streams and won’t support her anymore; her fans do everything they can but she hates them

What the hell has been going on these past 20 minutes?

>>76319995
Anonchama...

>>76319699
YouTube takes a while to update

>>76320066
Go check out some of the NijiEN discord servers. It's an all out war to save her 500k.

This is what I saw (West Coast time, so 6 minutes ago)

>>76320066
Holy bots.

>>76320066
Sisters blatantly trying to bot her back to 500k, we all know they aren't particularly good at it

>>76316795
It was necessary to keep the value of the Finana stable

>>76319699
oh, there we go. I can start laughing again.

YT shows her back at 499k subs at the moment.

>>76320066
YouTube tries to stop the unsub bots.

>>76320194
Holy fuck
I remember the days when he would absolutely mog HoloEN. Someone's got to do a documentary on their downfall.

>>76317351
>he doesn't have a butt protection
lol
be ready for a painful awakening

>>76320232

>>76320194
Graph looks like a boner lmao

>>76320066

>>76320287
"Hey it's ya boi skinnypenis" - vox

>>76320232
Looks like she needs some of those parasocial fucks back.

>>76320390
Ouch, now this is just cruel

I will like to thank our lord and saviour Sayu Sincronisity.

Aged like fine milk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=286W5G0sYh4

>>76317139
>Bot the fuck out of it
>Triggers Jewtube anti-bot
>(un)friendly fires dead subs too
>They never resub
>Accelerate
It happened indirectly to advent just cause they grew too fast from the corpo buff.

>>76318620
Finana unironically can't do anything better.

It's me. I'm the one buying sub and unsub bots to fuck with Finana.

ah yes, a drinking homocollab, that will help her

ducking dookieturd, hacking finana subscriber account to unsub from her desu

Serious question: why do holosisters attack Finana so much? Petra is also exactly at 500k, but haven't seen anyone here make fun of her as much as Finana

Is she still not doing ASMRs?

>>76320777
see >>76317740

>>76319116
It seems people had already been annoyed with her and were just looking for an excuse to unsub. Petra had simply ducked out of basically all scrutiny and never had a parasocial fucks/educate yourself type thing (to my recollection).

>>76320803
She's too busy gobbling clique cock.

>>76320777
Nobody in the West gives a shit about Petra anymore, for better or worse.

>>76320728
I mean... who else would collab with Finana?

>>76320777
People make fun of Finana because her downfall is entirely her own fault, she was lucky to get 500 CCV even before the Seren Shokku

>>76320777
It's not about subs, it's about being a terrible person.

>>76320066
Let her hit it, maybe she will do something more interesting than gachaslop #123214345 stream

>>76320728
Mean as it is, Finana was pretty much always in her own corner and was easy groomer bait. Like for Lazulight’s 2 year anniversary, I think it was just Pomu and Elira interacting with Finana just became the awkward third wheel after a while.

>>76320777
Finana pissed off a lot of fans over time with her antics, because early on getting 1000+ or even 2000 viewers was no problem for her. The Valoguard arc along with the 2023 April Fools gag basically chased people away.

>>76321151
Hahahaha. No. The other day she was saying that she is living her best life and that she doesn't regret anything about her career. She is in full cope mode and doesn't want to take responsibility for anything.

someone please post the parasocial fucks pic
it makes me laugh every fucking time

>>76320777
>Finana has a good thing going
>Everyone that cares tell her to shut the fuck up on social media and stay out of the groomcords
>Woman moments
No clue

>>76320777
Finana is a legit horrible person who has pushed away everyone but her discord groomers through her own idiotic actions

>>76317139
>Hack into a bunch of YT accounts
>Upload porn
>Get all accounts banned
>Suddenly lose a bunch of subs
Could be done like that.

>>76317740
>constantly spends her income on sneakers
The fuck? That's oddly specific.

5 minutes to go

>>76321310
In fairness, Finana isn’t as much of a terrible person as a Yuko Yurei. Her problem is more that she’s not people smart at all, making her extremely gullible and easily manipulated.

>>76321251
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>76321539
Anon, she has backstabbed so many people already that it doesn't matter how dumb she is. You can be dumb and a terrible person at the same time.

>>76317029
there's some sisters who want all of the niji girls to leave.

>>76321539
It's happened so many times yet she doesn't shut up and sit down.

>>76316795
Unless this is a troll post, actually feeling sorry for Finana is next-level retardation.

>>76317139
Sisters are so dumb they are bound to think its true.

It's been over 3 months, it's clear as day the west is lost for them.
There's option 1, damage control, cut EN like ID, manage everything in japan, some members will leave, but you'll keep some of your core.
Option 2, keep going with what you have, hold until 2025 and try to start with a new image. It's not gonna be as good as it was at the beginning, but it'll be enough to keep the ship going.
Option 3, fucking accelerate, add more talents because fuck it all, disregard everything, spread your current fanbase even more with almost no chance to get new fans, make everyone a 3 view at best.
Guess which did Riku pick? There's gonna be a point where getting 1 or 2 Finanas will be considered a sucess for them.

>>76321251
IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR edition

What are the chances Elira slips below 500k before the end of the year?

>>76316795

>>76321646
>Mint is doing great
>Doki is absolutely thriving
>Mata and Mochi are doing better then they did, have IP control and are on the dominant corpo of their website
>even Sayu as an indie is a constant 4view
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the girls want to get out too.

>>76317740
this bitch smoking crack

>>76322319
they think that the girls are leeches to their precious boys.

>>76322227
Very low, but it would be so fucking funny.

>>76322086
Nice try Holobroby but EN vtuber fans are all super hyped for the new NijiEN gen.

>>76322547
>EN vtuber fans are all super hyped for the new NijiEN gen.

>>76322319
You don't automatically get 4view just for living Nijisanji? Do you think Aia, Scarle, Petra, Kunai, Vivi or Millie will become instant 4views just for leaving Nijisanji? Do you think the universe will give Rosemi, Enna or Elira 3k CCV just to fuck with Riku?
Leaving Nijisanji =/= more views.

>>76322547
Sure, whatever you say friend. Just don't get too attached to them. They are prone on getting at least 1 organ lost per gen. Make sure it isn't your new oshi.

>>76322227
From a quick look at Elira's sub loss over time, it seems like she's currently losing 1k subs every week or so.
She's currently at 546k, so if she continues falling at the current rate it'll take roughly 47 weeks for her to drop below 500k. That's about 10~11 months?
So, unless some new drama comes out that tanks her reputation even further, it's very unlikely she'll lose the 500k milestone until sometime in the first half of 2025.

>>76320536
That would make sense, if they were gaining any subs prior to this.

>>76322734
Someone please save them!

>>76322734
Approaching Kunai levels of GRIM.

>>76322734
Holy fuck

>>76322547
They didn't even save TTT first...

>>76319116
The Zaion slander resurfaced and she's at the forefront, also she made a suicide joke and got cancelled on twitter

>>76321482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQihuxXKlzA

>>76322227
Fairly low. She’s losing subs still, but it’s not happening at a fast enough rate to where she’ll dip below that. Maybe she’ll be near there 500k, in the off chance NijiEN is unable to make back enough the subs they’ve lost this year.

>>76322734
Yo, it's my boy Muddasir Kalyankar.

>>76322796
It's not about leaving Nijisanji, but also about being a generally likeable person! Why do you think that Quinn Benet's viewcount has tanked?

>>76322734
grim

>>76322547
You meant to say "what's left of the Nijisanji EN fandom"

>>76322796
The fun part is that EN went from "huge corpo to move in once you're successful" to "stepping stone for bigger success"
Of course if you are talentless or an absolute cunt it won't matter if you are on niji or not. But most niji females that have returned as indies or on another corpo have either kept their success or gotten more.

>>76322547
>10k subs 24 hours after reveal

>>76323237
They will get more, just like more AX tickets will sell closer to the launch!

>>76322959
Twitter faggots will cancel a person even if they breathe the wrong way.

>>76323103
Honestly I feel like we should stop talking about him. He's become so desperate that he's spamming facecam streams because they get higher CCV and half of his Twitter posts are pictures of his irl self. I'm pretty sure he realizes his grift failed and I wouldn't even call him a vtuber at this point

>>76322734
Wow the new Phase Connect gen is getting mega hype, those are great numbers for a small corpo!

>>76323237
Their subs will skyrocket once more people listen to their debut song. Please stream it.
https://youtu.be/XM3eoknX05M

>>76323323
Whether we speak about him or not, it doesn't matter. He'll probably fade into relative obscurity unless some kind of miracle happens.

>>76323426
lol no

>>76323103
>>76323323
>>76323432
Who is this Quinn guy anyways? I I've seen his name brought up a lot in threads revolving around Sayu and Mat.

>>76323426
Are they the ones performing the song, or is it Enna and Maria again?

>>76323581
It's kyo, surprised you didn't pick up on that

>>76323581
The (con) artist formerly known as Kyo Kaneko

>>76323596
It makes you wish it was performed by Enna and Maria, actually.

>>76323581
Retarded faggot wigger who gets butthurt about racism only to be racist himself. He's almost certainly the one who doxxed Zaion back when she was suspended (we know leak came from Nijisanji and leaker-san confirmed it was Kyo specifically, Sayu also hearted "fuck Kyo" comment).

>>76323596
Unfortunately they are the ones performing.

>>76323676
Oh come on, it can't be that ba- OH JESUS FUCK MAKE IT STOP

>>76323314
Twittards are vampires, they don't want people to learn Hamon breathing.

>>76323426
Holy shit, can Ryona sound any more like he doesn't want to be there?

>>76323581
Guy used to catfish people with a fake female voice on omegle as a minor. Oh and I guess he used to be Kyo Kaneko from Nijisanji too.

OG NIJI HATER HERE, I WON

>>76322734
>twisty zako
nice lamo

>>76323426
Jesas what the hell is this

https://files.catbox.moe/kee3oa.mp3

>>76323581
Retarded wigger Kyo that got so assblasted when Zaion and Doppio pushed back against his cunty shit in the gold collab that he doxed her.

>>76320777
it's not holosister but a combination of antis and fans she managed to turn against her. She started as semi GFE and attracted pretty dedicated fans despite not having any pl experience. It's why despite being unpopular anons have a detailed track record of her actions >>76317740
Finana made the mistake that every entertainer dreads, turn your biggest fans into your biggest haters

>>76324419
Very bad mixing. It sounds like they did little to no editing on the back-end of things with no-one's voice being on the same level and the music being louder than most of the singers.

>>76323596
>>76323676

>>76317740
>Ryuguards send money to Finana
>Finana spends all her money in Hoyoverse games
>Mihoyo turns around and hands that money to Sayu via sponsorships
Now THIS is gaslighting.

>>76325976

>>76325976
>Sayu uses that money to sponsor OffKai which kicked out Niji EN
kek

>>76326091
just need a dedicated Ryuguard to win that cosplay competition and close the circle.

>>76326091
It took a while, but we've come full circle

>>76326091
Now thats some 4D chess.

>>76325976
>>76326091

Nijinijjar get laughed get laughed

Finana threads are always fun.

>>76317520
If you wanted to steal the NijiEN's fanbase's money you'd have to hack into Riku's bank account.

>>76326489
Or sell dirt cheap and low quality Niji merch. Sisters love that shit

>>76326470
To be fair, only 2% of ryugard's donations follow that holy cycle. The other 98% are in a yacht.

>>76322734
Hololive mogged

>>76320250
>SunnyV2
>The Downfall of Le Retard de Vox Akuma

>>76322734
the fact the only male in this wave is 10k sub like the girls is just too grim

>>76317740
I feel so educated, thank you sir or ma'dam.

>>76322734
>10k
Its not even joeover its just gone.

>>76322734
Is there an actual 2view in NijiEN yet? Do you think we'll see one (or three) now?

>>76328642
No. They've broken the 1 Finana wall a number of times though even reaching 0.5 Finanas

>>76319632
Wait, have she said that?, kinda based if so.

>>76322734
Owari da

>>76321539
Did Yuko backstabbed someone?, beside her fans i mean.

>>76329067
on her roommate, yeah. She wasn't too specific, just being self-deprecating and kicking herself for being "too weak to stand up for others."

>She literally called herself a nice person when talking about Sayu.
Anyone who says that is absolutely NOT a nice person.

>>76317139
That poster is mogging on the Sisters. After the Great Unsubbing wave started, a couple of them said it was "unsub bots" doing it.

They dropped that as a talking point pretty fast but people still like to taunt them with it from time to time.

>>76322319
>Everyone forgot Enna's ex
Grim for the twink desu

>>76322319
Sayu keeps going 1.5-3k+ combined twitch+yt. She's streaming games she likes and having fun with her friends. It's fucking great.

>>76329067
She vagueposted on her PL during Selen's suspension about how things used to be much more fun and wishingnshe was stronger and able to stand up for others

>>76329751
>>76330228
I see, that's sad, looks like she liked/loved Doki a lot

>>76322734
I'm amazed there's still people that want to join
They must be literal 1views

>>76330419
Yeah the pengy is good people. She was a genuine huge Nijisanji fangirl before joining, so it must be awful for her to see the reality behind the curtain.

>>76317740
holly shit thx anon this is the first time that i actually educate myself... jesus MUSK how erase my past 15m memory. INTER LINK
>NO LINK
>INTER LINK
fuck

>>76330505
The girls are both Japanese ESLs who are doing the "audition for EN to bypass VTA" route.

>>76330562
So penguin good? Good to know

>>76330505
The guy is seemingly a grifter and a scammer and the girls seem to be JPs trying to get around the VTA bullsit internship tomget into NijiJP

>>76331072
Yeah she's good people. Her, Doppio, and Scarle are about it

>>76331304

>>76317139
nijisisters are so desperate to believe that nobody can organically hate nijisanji for what they've done and thus all these negative consequences must be the work of some evil cabal

>>76322734
holy shit, wasnt during their prime, they get like around or below 500k sub pre-debut, Niji has fell down a slippery slope

>>76319632
if she's still at nijisanji she deserves nothing but scorn

>>76331304
I would say Maria, she’s also a huge Nijisanji fan especially for the jp side

>>76331871
Right forgot Maria she's good too.

>>76320450
she deserves it

>>76320777
SHE GASLIT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>76317520
It would require social engineering and actually interacting with nijisisters.

>>76323426
God, that sounds like such generic jpop mush. Even small corpo debut songs like that idol music group sound leagues better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3XuTecbEVc

>>76320777
i'm an holonigger and i feel the need to shit on whatever is posted with this retard because of that 4chin stream, by the next year she will be at 2 views and then i will rest my shitpost

>>76320777
I see the Anya/Petra global and I would never consider upsetting the balance of that thread.
t.Holofan

>>76331868
To be fair I understand Vivi's stance. If you considered Nijisanji as a whole there 'were' wholesome parts of the fanbase. Once Rosemi and rosebuds leave being a female talent in Niji is a living hell with the clique and obvious as fuck sex pest coworkers lurking about or just wanting to use you instead of a proper collab. Rosemi, Doppio chuuni wii fighting was great for example. The gay racist drop collabing not so much.

>>76332780
If she's still at nijisanji she deserves nothing but scorn, simple as

>>76329751
>>76330419
>>76330562
Not too surprising if you watch some 2023 large nijiEN collabs. Pengu is always hesitant to talk outside of her genmates and when she does there is this awkwardness where she 'has' to speak with them. Honestly, in hindsight a lot of content is hard to watch since the clique looks to have been a thing for AWHILE.

>>76332865
Most of the girls still stuck there are victims too. They deserve our compassion and our pity (but never our views or our money, until they escape).
I did say most, though. Finana is definitely just a retard and deserves what she gets.

>>76333104
Amen to that brother.

>>76333104
If they had any actual integrity they would've left once they did the black stream in feb.
When you stand before the gates of heaven you cannot say "I was contractually obligated to do so.", or that doing the right thing was inconvienent
The fact that they are still there means only that they are evil
pure and simple.

>>76316795
>Why did Dookie's fans do this?
So Finana can hype stream for the 500K subs and celebrate the achievement once again.

>>76333308
I mean morally you're not wrong that that was indefensible, but it's easy for us to say that as adults with actual life experience.
It's not a coincidence that the first ones out were the hags. Most of the girls still there are young, naive, and gullible. They're not evil, man, they're just stupid.

>>76333308
You clearly lack empathy.
It's not a coincidence that most of Niji talents are barely above 20yo. They intentionally hire young adults with little life or job experience because it's much easier to manipulate such people and make them dependent on you. Listen to what every ex-niji said. Livers are made to believe they're worthless without the company. They think their life will be over if they leave. That's why they stay, even if they don't like it.

>>76333308
Who knows how much influence niji has over those that remained. I'm not sure someone like Vivi could absorb the cost of having to buy a completely new computer with streamdeck, phone for face capture and anything else niji has loaned her easily.
In addition to a termination fee, too. Add psychological pressure akin to Hollywood execs threatening naive actresses that they'll never make in showbiz if they leave, and things aren't as clear cut anymore.

>>76334377
Isn't vivi foreign? They can't really enforce it and she should have all the receipts for everything she got so she'd be fine.

>>76334324
I have no empathy to spare to those who simply lie down and take it. If someone can look at the black stream and think that the company who drafted that statement is a swell guy and you should totally stay with them, they deserve nothing but scorn.
Doubly so if you then go ahead and defend them, like Vivi or Petra or Ren, the supposed "Good ones" of nijien

>>76334827
You sure have a lot of energy to spam your worthless opinions tho. Maybe use it on educating yourself.

>>76333308
Contrary to what Vox claims, I'm pretty sure they can't just up and leave at a moment's notice. Pomu had supposedly been on her way out since last July at the latest, but only graduated in January—which means she'd been waiting to graduate for 5+ months.
It's been 5 months since Selen's first attempt, and only 3 since her termination nuked Niji's reputation beyond repair. We can't yet deny the possibility that "the good ones" are simply stuck waiting for the company to let them graduate.

>>76334883
EDUCATE YOURSELF

>>76334567
Does she know that? Does she have a lawyer to tell her that? Otherwise, if Niji says they'll ruin her if she leaves, I'm sure she'll believe it - assuming she even gets far enough away from the cult's koolaid to even think of asking to.

>>76334883
Oh I'm sorry did I ruin your attempt to spin your "clean Niji" narrative?

>>76334934
It's common sense and somebody's had to have told her with the 5 months of save Vivi but we've seen how that's gone.

>>76334939
I don't give a shit if you're anti niji or not, i just see you're an absolute retard and i call out worthless shitstains like you. Just because you're hating on bad company doesn't make you good. You're no different from holo antis in your mindless hating.

>>76316795
How the fuck did she beat Petra?

>>76335038
Yeah sounds like I struck a nerve nijinig

>>76335064
petra got a short boost with her 3d debut and tapping into the jp fanbase

>>76335073
Illiterate retard.

>>76334889
According to Mika, she was stuck in the graduation queue for over a year.

>>76335124
Ah I love the smell of nijiseethe in the morning

>>76335064
Petra's subs are too dead to unsub

>>76334889
They can absolutely up and leave at a moment's notice. Nijisanji does not have them locked up in the niji compound, surrounded by armed niji guards. It's merely inconvenient for them to do so, don't mistake that for a lack of choice.

>>76335064
Petra did nothing wrong. She didn't do much good either but being silently complacent is better than being actively evil.

>>76334567
Niji is a fuckhuge company, and even the looming threat of a legal conflict is enough to scare a lot of folks into compliance,even if they're in the right and have the law on their side. Breaking down over spilled food isn't a good sign that you're emotionally stable enough to risk going into debt fighting your employer. It sucks, but there's only so much you can expect someone to give up out of principle, especially at that age.

>>76335033
How is it common sense when her contract, which she'd naturally think is legally binding, says otherwise?

And she's trapped in her own bubble. Chat's been restricted to long time members for a long while now, and she's probably been made to believe anything the drama tubers have said is a lie, if she dares to watch them at all.

>>76335205
You're wrong. Watch Legal Mindset's stream with contract review and read Sayu's document.

>>76335237
Petra is still at nijisanji
Also Petra sucks Riku's cock so she's not innocent

>>76335311
Being contractually unable to is not the same thing as being physically restrained in the nijisanji compount and forced to stream at gunpoint.

>>76335290
Because we've known for the length of humanity's existence that contracts are retarded bullshit and international contracts have even more holes?

>>76335321
Stupid nijinigger trying to hate on female livers.

>>76335359
So you're being retarded on purpose? Nobody talked about physical restraint. Monetary restraint is arguably much more severe.

>>76333308
>If they had any actual integrity they would've left once they did the black stream in feb.
Anyone who has ever been a wagecuck at least once can tell it isn't that easy.
Sure, you can tell to fuck off and leave immediately, but you risk backlash from the company, the people that listen to them and your clients, all of them might blacklist you and that'll make finding a new job absolute hell. Same goes here, if any organ just decides to leave, you can expect niji to burn them alive, same for the sisters and any corpo, streamer or business that still listens to niji.
Also, there's the risk of a lawsuit due to breach of contract, sure one got leaked, but we'll know exactly what's each liver's specific contract's fine print.

>>76335378
Go ahead and break a contract and see how it goes for you. I'll watch from sidelines.

>>76335414
>It's inconvenient to do the right thing, therefore it's okay for them to do evil
This excuse might fly for some simple minded fools, but not for me

>>76335456
see >>76335493

>>76335493
You're fucking retarded. Being in thousands dollars debt is not "inconvenience" for unemployed 23yo with no real experience.

>>76335414
>livers
found the nijinigger
all nijiniggers deserve their heads on a pike
every single one

>>76335104
>>76335164
I was more asking because Petra hit 500k a while ago, but Finana just rocketed past her from several k above her to below her.

>>76335564
Yeah, you're the most distinct nijinigger in this thread. Retarded sister thinking anyone will listen to her shitposting.

>>76335560
One of these days you'll find a way to defend your precious nijiwhores that doesn't rely on rephrasing "It's inconvenient to do the right thing, therefore it's okay for them to do evil"

>>76335605
>Nijiniggers are actually good guys, trust me, sure they suck riku;s cock and defend nijisanji in public but they are actually good

>>76335478
Ah yes, an illegal and unenforceable contract. Maybe you should be worrying about supporting your livers instead of paying shills on a Tezuka appreciation bulletin board.

>>76335627
Congrats, you're officially dumber than average sister. I guess Riku will send some gift cards to you for this achievement. That's the last (You) you're getting for me. Choke on camel cock.

>>76335726
The burglar shouting thief, how cute

>>76335627
That's kind of how the CCP, RU and Bong-EU came to be but yeah! Tell em!

>>76335773
>Le polrot

>>76317740
According to what I read the billboard project image is cropped, the "her" they are talking about is the coordinator of a kpop fan group that did a similar project telling them to change plans because they won't get the money on time.

The rest seems legit though

Petra's been at 500k for a long time (a week+?). Please help her.

>>76321202
>the 2023 April Fools gag
Mind explaining? It's the first time I'm hearing of this.

>>76320491
i love it

>>76335926
She had an amsr stream frame up which she then replaced with a thumbnail of her giving the middle finger after being a no show.

>>76335378
>>76335714
Once again, you and I are adults with actual life experience. Most of these girls are not, this is either their first job or their second job after working at a mall kiosk or a summer camp or something.
You know which girls DID have enough experience to understand the work environment was toxic and the contract was bullshit not worth the paper it was printed on? Zaion, Nina, and Pomu. As I said, not a coincidence they were the first ones out.

>>76335986
That's not a gag, that's just being a lazy bitch.

>>76336088
and now you understand why her fans abandoned her

>>76336066
once again, that doesn't excuse shit.

>>76335311
Speaking of that leak: Niji may be able to delay graduations, but I'm pretty sure they can't delay contract expiration. If the contract period is 2 years like the leak says, then that means Iluna and Xsoleil are up for renewal this year. If anyone from either wave wants out, then letting their contract expire should be a reliable, fast, and generally consequence-free way for them to do so.
Conversely, anyone from either wave who makes it to their 2nd anniversary will have had to renew their contract AFTER witnessing this year's shitshow, thus destroying any room for doubt as to where they stand. I'm curious to see how people cope if the "good ones" are among those who choose to stay.

>>76336066
That should actually make the detective be even more unusual considering how young he is and being the only one of the privallaged boys to leave.

>>76336196
Agree to disagree I guess. I'm never watching them again either way, but I'll reserve actual contempt for the management and the ones who actually did the Black Stream.

>>76336066
It's in the checklist of shit to do when getting your first or any job.

Zaion got immolated and only came out okay cause she had a spine and a football. Pretty sure Nina and Pomu just didn't renew same as Bonniver. Selen only managed cause she had cause, foreign protections, and a football

>>76335493
>therefore it's okay for them to do evil
Who's saying it's okay? Clearly it isn't and it shows on their numbers, but they can't leave or it might get even worse for them.
There's no correlation on both scenarios anon.

>>76337249
>Who's saying it's okay?
see >>76335726
>>76335560
>>76335414

>>76331353
>when you tell everyone worried about you to fuck off and your numbers go even lower

>>76337320
>buzzwords
Yeah, that's what I get for trying have a discussion on a fucking catalog thread when jakarta hours are starting. My mistake, got carried away.

>>76335983
Gonna watch the comment section for any kino lines

>>76335205
The contract contains some EXTREME penalties for early termination, and auto-renews if you don't declare you want to end it three months in advance. (In addition to granting AnyColor the authority to amend it basically at will.)

Various ex-Niji's have claimed that they were stuck in a graduation queue for months or more.

>>76336204
If the contract runs for two years why/how did Kyo manage to get out when he did? Even before the Selen termination starting 2024 with Pomu's graduation straight into Kyo's was a bad look, you would think if they could push it out a few months they would

>>76335627
Part of the problem, when you get sucked into a cult-like environment like that, is you begin to believe acts of insanity and evil are the right thing, so long as they are committed by the right people, especially if it's in defense of "the family".

>>76337910
>EXTREME penalties
On a scale of 1 - 10, how much rape we talking here?

>>76338008
He was always going to pump and dump Niji he said it early and often. Probably ended it early.

>>76337910
unless those penalties involve anycolor gunmen showing up at your family's door to shoot your grandma and send your entire family to gulag, it doesn't count.

>>76338106
You can go dig up some contract vids. Basically years of salary as a penalty, all your streaming gear, etc. It's a bunch of crazy unenforceable shit as long as you aren't retarded and are in japan on a work visa without another sponsor lined up

>>76338008
AnyColor can graduate you before the end of the contract without breaking it. They may have come to a mutual agreement well before the Selen incident.

>>76338174
How does being homeless, in crippling debt, and without a computer sound?

>>76317139
Sisters are too stupid to hit the subscribe button and think everything on YT is done by bots

>>76338424
homeless because anycolor sends their agents to your house to break your kneecaps, steal your computer, and the deeds to your house I suppose

>>76317740
ive seen holos sneak into discord fan servers, have some fun and leave but it never got this bad damn lol.

>>76334377
Wait, so they have to give the equpment back? I always thought they just paid for the cost of that equpment (or had it taken away from their last supa earnings) do they actually have to package and send their pc's to fucking japan? just how petty can Riku get?

>>76336204
That's a good point to bring up, yeah.

>>76338537
Well, what situation would you be in if you suddenly had to cough up a year's salary? (Or would have you been in if you had to do that when you were say 21?)

Though, true, a lot of these streamers still seem to live with their parents, so I guess they'd be good, save the fact that they simply would never have enough money to move out.

For those outside Japan, none of this is enforceable, mind you, but most of these young talents very likely don't know that, and might not want to risk it, even if someone told them, short of hearing it from the mouth of their own lawyer, which most of these kids are too stupid to acquire. (VShojo regularly ends up FORCING talents to get their own lawyer to read over their contract with them - but AnyColor policy seems to be much closer to "sign it now or leave".)

>>76338830
they "have" to give their equipment back, the same way that you have to pay money to the nigerian prince who really just needs a bit more money to unlock his vast fortune

>>76338884
>had to cough up a year's salary?
yeah because Anycolor's agents will sell your mother into prostitution if you don't

>>76337320
Learn how to read. None of those posts said it's okay to do evil. You're jus a retarded shitposter who doesn't know what evil is.

>>76316795
feesh is the top female vtubee right now in niji en

>>76338830
In theory, yes. In practice, if you just say "lol no" Niji has no way to press the issue.

>>76338830
Why do you think Pomu or Selen didn't have streaming equipment initially? Why do you think Selen had to reach out to epic devs to get back her Fortnite account?

>>76338911
>>76338947
>>76339095
pagpag really fries the brains huh

>>76338947
If you believe the contract to be enforceable, you'll never be able to earn a full salary ever again, if you don't, or at the very least you'll be paying it off for years. Mind, AnyColor also likes to put up these sin lists to prevent you from ever working in the industry again to boot and can easily blacklist you for all of Japan - plus they say they can take your equipment, and good luck buying that again while you're in that kind of debt.

And all you have to do to avoid all that is sit down and shut up.

>>76339228
And once again we go right back to "It's inconvinent to do the right thing, therefore doing evil is okay"

>>76339082
80% of viewers on feesh stream are fans of Wilson and Claude.
btw Reimu got raided from 400 to 1300 and lost 120% of that raid.

>>76339217
What about it is wrong? Most of them are in canada, burger, or yuro. All they have to do is shred and burn it then claim it got lost in the mail or something and Niji can't do shit.

>>76339287
Destitution, with no way to recover while being blacklisted apart from your dream job, is much more than "inconvenient". The homeless have half the life expectancy of people in prison, never mind what tends to happen to destitute women.

>>76339427
Destitution, because Anycolor will send their agents to beat the money out of you and your family

>>76339403
Aia...
You're letting Aster win...
Think of Scarle...

>>76339403
Ya know, maybe Quinn is pretty happy he dodged the Selen shock

>>76339425
You're assuming they know and believe that, rather than what Niji's lawyers tell them.

Plus Niji can still effectively prevent you from ever working with any other company in the industry again, and possibly block you out of all of Japan. That's a very real threat, and there isn't dick you can do to stop them.

>>76339403
These are production kawaii numbers...

>>76339403
>Reimu lost the raiders + more
I hope for her it's just her ending stream since viewership drops immediately at that point. If she's still streaming, that's absolutely GRIM.
And Aster already lost his new outfit buff lmao

>>76338830
https://youtu.be/ZhhG9P5HKrE?si=sjFf9RSew4NH1mTi&t=741
There is a section in that video about the 'contract'. I'm surprised you are just hearing about that right now.

>>76339574
Or they could ask an actual qualified lawyer like a functioning person?
Niji really can't.

>>76339470
Destitution because, were the contract enforceable, they can garnish your wages for the rest of your life and remove all your credit while trashing your rating enough to prevent you from ever getting more. ...and yes, if they believe what Niji's lawyers probably tell them, the repo man will come for their equipment to boot.

>>76339403
>lost 120% of that raid.
lmao. How do you even manage this?

>>76339574
I think this thread is like 75% people talking past each other because half of us are arguing about what is objectively true in reality and the other half are arguing about what the dumb talents have been told is true.

>>76339747
>were the contract enforceable,
hit the nail on the head don't you think?

>>76339597
looking at graph is possible she lost only 95% of the raid and further viewers dropped after she stopped playing the game and started reading superchats? I don't know, I'm not gonna click her stream.

>>76316970
>actual monkeys
/pol/ loves kiwawa confirmed
kekeke

>>76339597
It's a 11 hours stream, ofc people are going to dip out sometime.

And also she had a 2 hour zatsu-only break in the middle because she wants to have a meal schedule like a normal human being.

>>76339773
>the other half are arguing about what the dumb talents have been told is true.
and those people are retarded because they genuinely believe none of the talents are smart enough to put two and two together and that excuses them sucking nijisanji cock

>>76339697
Niji has more than enough sway to do exactly that, and most kids aren't smart enough to get their own lawyers and will just believe whatever Niji's lawyers say. Again, Vshojo has repeatedly had to force its talents to get lawyers.

>>76339796
Fair, I'm not gonna watch either. That's Quinn levels of dropping lol

>>76339597
Not really surprised, it's the same shit, aside from his hair looking like a Foster's Home for Imaginary friends reject.

>>76339901
Ah yes, the same Niji that's repeatedly thrown out on its ass right?

>>76339865
>because they genuinely believe none of the talents are smart enough to put two and two together
Anon have you watched any NijiEN streams?

>>76339780
Again, most of these kids don't have lawyers and have no reason to doubt the enforceability of the contract, or if they have some doubt, it's an awfully big risk to take without lawyering up first. A step they aren't likely to take, especially if they've drank the koolaid.

>>76339825
At what point do you just do a weekend donothon gimmick stream for a minifridge, microwave, and meal prep gear?

>>76339979
It's literally the first thing to doubt.

>>76339825
You'd be surprised, actually.
A good enough streamer can keep people from the raids even through an absurdly long stream.

>>76339956
stupidity does not excuse doing evil, and the ones trying to push it, like >>76339979, are trying to excuse evil

>>76339940
Not in Japan. And not even a western company is going to hire you if you have a hit list like Zaion's, in addition to a company everyone knows you worked for refusing to provide reference.

>>76340176
Was the gift card work it sister?

>>76340158
It's not that they're evil, it's that they are afraid.

...or worse, they've dunk the koolaid, and believe everything the family does to be right and just.

>>76340176
>Zaion got sponsorships
>Zaion got con appearances
You have to watch streams.

>>76316795
Rosemi has lost her 500k subs milestone. Why did NijiEN's fans sabotage this?

>>76336204
Obsydia's contracts should be over by this fall then, right?

>>76340306
And what company does she work for again?

It took a year of pain and suffering for her to come back from what those shits at Nijisanji did to her, in addition to putting her life in danger by Doxxing her. Do you really think these kids are going to risk that kind of trauma just because their coworker, in their eyes, "couldn't cut it." (or worse, "betrayed the family.")

>>76340176
https://files.catbox.moe/sqz279.mp4

>>76340485
Yeah, I really don't think most of the remaining Nijis are strong enough to come back from something like that.
If it happened to someone like say, Millie, or Rosemi, I'm pretty sure they would've given up months ago. I don't know how the fuck she managed to get herself back up and continue to beat away the sisters.

>>76340485
>3k ccv
>TTT at 1 Finana and sub-minimum wage income

>>76340607
Rosemi has more backbone than you'd think. Millie's a bit of a trooper, but she's in so deep I don't think she'd ever recover from the shock, and to topic... Finana... Finana would be screwed beyond belief if they Zaion'd her.

>>76340476
Rosemi announces she had a collab with Petra.

>>76340607
Brosemi is strong and Dizzy would take her back in a heartbeat. Who the fuck knows what's going on with her.

>>76340476
No. Iluna and Xsoleil both debuted in 2022, so a 2-year contract period would place their renewals this year. Noctyx also debuted in 2022, but they would've renewed sometime shortly before shit hit the fan. Sucks to be them I guess. Everyone else's contracts shouldn't be ending until 2025, presumably a couple months before each wave's 4th anniversary.

>>76339623
I knew about it (mostly from osmosis) but as I said, I always thought it was about paying for the cost of the equipment, I just assumed noone was petty enough to ask for their 1000$ pcs back, delivered from the other side of the planet, keep in mind that while that equipment seems really expensive for an individual, it's basically chump change for a large company, it would be the equivalent of you asking your ex to return the pack of gums she took 1 year ago for breaking up with you. This is not about reimbursement, it's literal spite.

>>76340947
Rosemi has a long history

>>76330634
>>76331133
This is how we got Meloco so I approve.

>>76340992
Oh it gets even more petty than you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQcE1BCzmOY
That video even shows they want your Steam/GoG account too. Doki was somehow able to get her Fortnite account back through Epic Games. Its this pettiness which spawned the 'Nijisanji takes everything back' jokes.

Wtf is the history between dizzy and the rose anons

>>76334377
Vivi (her PL) is the Oshi of the spider vtuber who has the big YouTube money
She actually worked as his secretary
She can get out whenever she wants, she just chooses not and instead would rather stay depressed and cry over spilled soup for some fucking reason

>>76341569
Soup clip/stream?

>>76336204 (Me)
Actually, quick addendum to this before the thread dies: if >>76337910 is right about the contract needing to be cancelled three months BEFORE it expires, then Iluna may have plausible deniability still. If they initially signed the contracts in April or very early May, they would've been auto-renewed right before Selen's termination and the black screen stream happened (which was when any hope of salvaging the situation went out the window).
Xsoleil, however, still definitely has time to cancel their contracts and thus has no excuse if they stay long enough to be at their 2nd anniversary.

>>76316795
not even ryuguards want to do the twitter support spam anymore.

>>76341639
The soup thingy? Deleted members stream, it's easy to find in the archives

>>76321539
You can be a retard AND a terrible person at the same time btw.

>>76317740
And none of that is why she lost some 35k subs since Feb 12.
It stopped her from reaching 540k, but it didn't drive her subs down. Management did that, to her and to the others. There's a massive difference between Finana hamstringing her own growth, and contraction caused by managerial incompetence/malice.