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Heart Edition
Previous Thread >>76204163

>Upcoming Stream
TBA
>Previous Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwmPP6XE0PY

>Debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kttt7pb5o6I
>Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@FUWAMOCOch/featured
>Schedule
https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1792040112215486883

>Unarchived Content (twitter spaces, karaokes, etc)
https://rentry.org/baunarchived
>Songs
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf4O_VcbYo24EjtizbTZt_tTgwXaaK8N- (official playlist of all covers and songs they've released or starred in.)

>Merch
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/collections/all?open=talent&q=%22Talent_フワワ・アビスガード%22 (Fuwawa)
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/collections/all?open=talent&q=%22Talent_モココ・アビスガード%22 (Mococo)

>/baubau/-related content (baubau sings, nsfw, VN/anime list)
https://rentry.org/baucontent

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>> No.76213787
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Dogtor visit
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1792482404961316931
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1792482407045894496

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Headpats for my wonderful oshis and their recovering voices

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>dogtor

>> No.76214185

>>76213787
i hope it's just a doctor being direct and not a bastard that isn't trying to help

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you broke my combo...

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>>76214168
Rabu princess

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I'll be gone for a little while, take good care of them okay? Ward off the worst menheras and reassure Fuwawa and Mococo

>> No.76214378

>>76214199
Medium size is truly superior

>> No.76214502
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>>76214337
Will do ruffianchama

>> No.76214806

I love them...

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>> No.76214836

>>76214185
It's literally
>dogtor
:/
>dogtor JAPAN
:O

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>> No.76214870

>>76214836
But the "...bau bau..." suggests they weren't happy

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>> No.76214921

>>76214836
hope so... i have met many doctors in my life, and a doctor that is trying to help you but just honest about it is a god send.
the amount of doctors i met that were plain lazy or uninterested in helping even when you waited for an appointment for half a year is insane.

>> No.76215061

>>76214921
This isn't about (You)

>> No.76215221
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>> No.76215244

https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1792519008270602589

>> No.76215371

I happened to stay up and they’re tweeting up a storm lol. I love my vagueposting oshis

>> No.76215396
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>>76215244
Happy and excited for them

>> No.76215435

So it's safe to say that the twitter blackout was encouraged/forced by management, right? Considering how much they've been tweeting recently.

>> No.76215454

>>76215244
I am not replying to that. It's 7:30 am and I just started to sleeping two hours ago. FuwaMoco has to understand that not everyone lives in JST time.

>> No.76215485

>>76215454
I got 2 hours of sleep because I wanted to watch Fubuki

>> No.76215511

>>76215454
Didn’t ask

>> No.76215600

What could possibly be the "change in their schedule" that would prevent them from streaming and make it possibly even worse than their moving arc, when the rest of Advent is streaming daily just fine from hotel rooms? I really don't get all their vague posting doom and gloom, it's so damn confusing.

>> No.76215601

i dont want to have sex with mococo

>> No.76215621

>>76215601
You're a fucking LIAR

>> No.76215637

>>76215435
Yes

>> No.76215675

>>76215600
They had to go to the dogtor

>> No.76215696
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>>76215601

>> No.76215698

>>76215435
Makes me feel bad for saying I missed them more. I could tweet at them every hour if I wanted to meanwhile Fuwawa was frothing at the mouth to reply to random ruffians

>> No.76215706

ok I don't know how to reply to this one

>> No.76215711

>>76215454
How about you kill yourself Aeon? That way you don't have to worry about living in any time.

>> No.76215714

>>76215706
You don’t have to

>> No.76215727

>>76215454
>started sleeping
>post on 4chan
a retard even when sleep walking

>> No.76215748

>>76215706
If you don't know what to write, just reply. You don't have to reply to every post.

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>> No.76215779

>>76215748
Anon...

>> No.76215791

Kek that guy has a reply from them as a banner. He is building his own cape

>> No.76215812

Its been 8 fucking months and there are still retards who dont understand they gave us the perfect fucking reply to anything if you dont know what to day. Just BAU BAU you fucking morons.

>> No.76215816

>>76215748
Don’t think just reply

>> No.76215848

Good to see they're still doing their daily pre sleep review of the menhera favorites' profiles. I've gotta be meaner to them.

>> No.76215857

>>76215600
They're doing extra "idol reps" don't ask

>> No.76215870

So true

>> No.76215888

>>76215848
死ねクソやろ

>> No.76215908

>>76213787
usually dogtors in japan are cold and retards

>> No.76215944

why were some people saying they would be streaming less permanently after moving to Japan? is the move not related to Hololive?

>> No.76215966

>>76215888
Not my fault they literally go to the Hungarians profile every night to find anything to like. Follow him already, Fuwawa.

>> No.76216023

Well, I hope the update schizos are feeling better now.

>> No.76216051

>>76215966
It's mostly sleep schedule. Burger ojisans need to stay up all night to get likes now, look at the Aeon tweet they liked. They want you to destroy your lives for them.

>> No.76216056

>>76216023
Update schizos will now shift to being upset that updates are happening outside of their times they can easily reply within three seconds

>> No.76216060

Likeschizos dont look

>> No.76216062

>>76216023
i want a needy mococo tweet

>> No.76216097

>>76216023
I knew this is what they would have done last week if they could. Annoying management forced them to worry people but this is fine now

>> No.76216100

>>76215848
No matter how many likes or RT's those menhera's get, I would still not have their lives given me. I would kill myself if I had to live thier lives.

>> No.76216112
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dang that femruffian doesn't have any selfies

>> No.76216158

>>76216100
I don't know, getting daily personal love from them would be pretty nice even if the rest of my life was horrible.

>> No.76216173

>>76216112
Why are you stalking femruffians

>> No.76216184

That’s actually pretty funny. The guy is at a mental breaking point and about to snap at any moment. Here’s a like :D

>> No.76216203

>>76216060
They really like this Daniel fellow huh. I don't think I've seen a holomem focus so much on one fan besides say Fubuki and Hyde or Nerissa and Neah.

>> No.76216211

>>76216184
thank you, you saved my life

>> No.76216216

BAU BAU

>> No.76216223

>>76216158
I'll like your tweets will that make you less menhera

>> No.76216236

>>76216203
hyde's cool he deserves the respect

>> No.76216237

It lays to be menhera

>> No.76216274

>>76216223
If you're fluffy or fuzzy yes otherwise I don't care

>> No.76216277

>>76216203
Hyde is a good artist lmao
>>76216237
What did he mean by this

>> No.76216296

>>76216203
dont liken this menhera to Hyde, Hyde is actually cool

>> No.76216314

Fuwamoco makes me smile with every message they send. It gives me the strength to live each day.

Guaranteed like. (Delete this part before posting)

>> No.76216342

So why is tomorrow a big day? The actual recording of their 3D debut? I wish they still did stuff live...

>> No.76216353

>>76216314
>Guaranteed
Not guaranteed, post it in Japanese

>> No.76216366

Man I've seen others saying it for months now but I'm finally convinced they want me to be a menhera abusive asshole. They're gonna get exclusively trauma dump tweets each morning and night. Maybe I should also do made up sad superchats

>> No.76216369

>>76216236
>>76216277
>>76216296
Well yeah, that goes without saying about Hyde. The Hungarian has done what exactly, spam clips and the same tweet walls as every other dedicated ruffian?

>> No.76216376

>>76216342
The dogtor saw their ages on the form and asked them if they'd ever had a cervical screen done. They said no so he forced them to book an appointment for one tomorrow, that's what they're excited/nervous about.

>> No.76216394

>>76216366
Go for it, it’s an effective method

>> No.76216416

>>76216366
I abused your mom’s asshole last night lmao

>> No.76216421

>>76216369
He told them that they were lying when they mace the pledge and that they don't care about their careers or the Ruffians. That he was thinking of ending his life because he can't do anything for them but send money. All tagged. That's his contribution and they love it.

>> No.76216478

>>76216421
I contributed my semen to your mom’s mouth lmao

>> No.76216491

If you’re really that desperate for likes you could’ve easily gotten two of them 7 hours ago

>> No.76216503

Real menhera hours. Stop gossiping, it's just sad

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>>76216173
I just like to save pictures of cute japanese femruffians

>> No.76216529

>>76216513
that's creepy as fuck ruffian

>> No.76216531

>>76216513
Share what you have so far

>> No.76216539

>>76216342
They finally tracked down the Gurame bunker on Mt Fuji.

>> No.76216556

>>76216529
>>76216531
heh

>> No.76216565

>>76216342
They're joining the Dark Brotherhood.

>> No.76216593

>>76216491
I was asleep.

>> No.76216611

I need to lick Mococo’s armpits and hear her uncomfortable yelps

>> No.76216684

>>76216565
Now I need the We Know picture but with a paw print and Bau Bau

>> No.76216825

>>76216593
Get used to never getting likes again. They've fully embraced being JP timezone and only pretend to care about those that aren't there live including for tweets.

>> No.76217226

uguu

>> No.76217254
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>>76217226

>> No.76217260

>>76216825
But there are still burgers that reply to all their tweets no matter what time it is
Are they NEETs or what

>> No.76217427

>>76217260
Shock collar autist and neets, yeah. I've given up because sleep is more important even if it means they forget completely about me

>> No.76217508

>>76216825
>"Ruffians we're going to have a really tough period, we need your help to protect our smiles"
>You "waaah I can't reply to their tweet quickly"
Really? Can you consider them for just a moment?

>> No.76217609

>>76217427
>even if it means they forget completely about me
Fucking pathetic lol

>> No.76217613

>>76217508
No they promised to protect my smile first this is on them they are doing a horrible job

>> No.76217661

Fucking hell some of you are pathetic. I hope this summer filters you hard and you never come back. Who the fuck cares about Twitter likes? Only menheras do

>> No.76217727

>>76217661
we are menheras though

>> No.76217786

>>76217727
I'm not. I am the most sane ruffian

>> No.76217842

>>76217661
I stopped caring after the first 5 months ago

>> No.76218042

>>76217661
It's easy to bait likes once you realize what posts they hit like for but it doesn't feel good after a while. I do it on alts just out of shame of looking pathetic in main. I actually surpassed my main recently despite only posting for 2 months on the alt vs since debut.

>> No.76218258

>>76218042
I'll find out what your main account is yet, Fable.

>> No.76218835

>>76218258
It doesn’t exist

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>with Bijou and Shiori

>> No.76219125

>>76219071
N-no…

>> No.76219146

>>76219071
that holofes outfit looks nice on rissa

>> No.76219173

>>76219071
one more week...

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>>76219071
trust in Sunday with Shiori

>> No.76219306

>>76219071
They are not gonna stream until their barker is okay.

>> No.76219364

I do believe they were given a force break/soft suspension. Knowing the girls, they wanted to hit 1mil before their first year anniversary. Since they pushed for gw streams and Mococo forced herself to stream with a bad voice, to pump those numbers. The week after Fuwawa was doing vertical streams with the counter and a decent schedule. Again, to pump those numbers. I feel like the live show they wanted to have another stream heavy schedule, and suzu, put a stop to it, because of their voices. They probably threw a fit, because of the off-collab stream and the slowdown of their momentum. Cover got upset at them for arguing the matter, and took their social networking accounts from them. Why do I think this? Well they were obviously not sick enough to go out with advent while they were in Japan, and you know they were chatty with them while they were out. So the whole being sick thing seems to be a little bit of an exaggeration. The other thing is the vagueness or lack of explanation why they went radio silent, and Fuwawa's emphasis that everything was ready for her rawk n rawr, meaning something put a stop to it. Call me a schizo, but I so think that's why they were radio silent.

>> No.76219423

>>76219258
Shiorin is so cute

>> No.76219469

>>76219258
>???
Don't get your hopes up. Could be anything

>> No.76219527

>>76219364
That's probably what happened

>> No.76219961

>>76219364
Is pretty obvious management stepped in. They had done it before to others.

>> No.76220455

>>76215061
fuck off doc. hope the prestige and money keep you warm IN HELL

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>>76220455
I'm on my way for your home visit.

>> No.76221040

>retweeting art where mocochan has bigger floofies than fuwawa

>> No.76221866

I appreciate fuwamoco bringing more cute femwuffians to my attention

>> No.76222327

Likeschizos... another round of huge Ws has hit

>> No.76222395

Dont care

>> No.76222457
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Btw, this guy is full of shit >>>/x/76211545
They individually easily outdo Fauna (lying sapling, shocking) and combined are top tier in like-merchandise, this is for the folders, but the same thing happened during Valentines and on similar merch runs were others had a run as well (only Gura outsells them). This was a run while they weren’t there to promote it (even on Twitter)

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>> No.76222663

>>76222619
>>76211545

>> No.76222758

I'm thinking today is another fluffy sex day. Gonna cum on the clock for Fuwawa again. My princess

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>>76222758
Good luck with that, ruffian.

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>> No.76223009

wasting more time on Twitter... didn't they learn their lesson yet? What is it going to take for them to take this idol career seriously?

>> No.76223075

>>76217842
How did you even last 5 months? The first like felt special but I didn't care about them by the third one.

>> No.76223088

>>76222946
God this one always sets me off. That restful face, those massive stuff floofies spilling out. Mococo giving ruffians an extra fluffy treat. May we make this a reality one day.

>> No.76223202

It's my life's mission to feel her floofies once and to hear her giggles next to me.
and then to grab her and breed her into submission all night long after all the teasing of me she's done

>> No.76223273

>>76223009
They have a Twitter addiction. It's still fine if they fall asleep soon but once it gets past midnight you know they are just hurting themselves again.

>> No.76223298

>>76223088
And they never made it sexier by liking it…

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>>76222946
That one is definitely one of my favorites. What would I give to be able to wake up by her side in the morning.

>> No.76223414

sex with fluffy

>> No.76223520

I can't post pictures. Go on without me gorillas...

>> No.76223564

>>76223520
Me either. Gorillas are endangered but I'm there are still many in the shadows. We can repopulate with Fuwawa and Mococo.

>> No.76223606

>>76223088
Don’t forget the thighs

>> No.76223694

Sex with Fuwawa?

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>> No.76223723

>>76223606
believe me I can never forget about those heavenly thighs. Imagine how tight and sweaty they will be after dance practice each day this week

>> No.76223819

>>76223710
She's perfect. I hope she's still eating lots of treats and snacks between all the exercise. She needs her energy and fluffiness after all!

>> No.76223917

>>76223694
Every single morning, afternoon, evening, and night of every single day.

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>> No.76224274

Gorillas are disgusting. Stop objectifying Fuwawa, she doesn't like it.

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>> No.76224501

>>76224274
Watch streams. She knows she's sexy and loves to be told it. We can stare a little bit more than usual today.

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>> No.76224545

>>76224501
That was just for that one day, you are staring too much everyday.

>> No.76224561

>>76220808
Faust and Zappa were my main.

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>> No.76224651

>>76215600
The Iranian President recently got assassinated via helicopter crash

>> No.76224687

>>76219364
They're playing a stupid game that results in an overall lose for their total career as a Holo. Stop being stupid, start taking things a little slower, and you won't get slapped. I can't believe I'm siding with management on that forced break.

>> No.76224762

>still egosurfing past midnight
Maybe the Hungarian was right and they are fucking retards that don't take it seriously

>> No.76224783

>>76224544
jesas

>> No.76224806
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>>76224687
>>76224762
you people are hilarious

>> No.76224813

>>76224545
Not my fault that motion attracts my eyes and she's constantly bouncing them in front of me

>> No.76224823

>>76215857
I'll ask then, what are the extra "idol reps"?

>> No.76224831

>>76224544
Artist drew them so delightfully plump I want to hold and fuck them badly
Feeling that soft fat skin across my dick id cum instantly

>> No.76224867

>>76224544
This is an insult to Icomochi's original art

>> No.76224871

I want fuwawa to gently blow on my dick and then tsk and giggle at the mess I instantly make all over her floofies

>> No.76224914

At the end of the day, you don't build your fanbase from idol activities or idol concerts, you build it from your streams.

>> No.76224952

>responds to his own bait after 3 hours because no one took it
thread is about to get real shit

>> No.76225016

>>76224914
Their dream amd realistic audience for concerts are exclusively japanese fans which don't watch many streams because they're forced to be in English most of the time unfortunately due to holoEN. So I disagree, streams won't help them get a sololive at all unless they switch branches

>> No.76225056

>>76224914
They streamed a lot already and built it. They can focus on idol activities now.

>> No.76225193

>>76225056
But then that goes on to be that they won't magically gain subs up to their 1m if they focus hard on idol activities, because other than a small burst of activity for a day or two after releasing an MV or orisong.

>> No.76225308

>>76225193
I think they have accepted that. They only were streaming because of that goal and with it impossible they have no incentive outside paypig milking to prioritize any streams when they could be doing homework or idol work as we are seeing now. I'm glad they don't have that pressure any more, they clearly didn't enjoy it.

>> No.76225378

>>76219364
>exactly 1 week
It was 100% management, and given the voice issue was immediately adjacent to the situation it was the most probable root cause.
I'm more shocked that it took management so long with how serious the issue is (as a vocal talent management company) and that FWMC weren't prioritizing it given their love for Marine/Polka (this is the part most confusing to me).
Maybe an issue with EN management vs JP management.

There's also the homework issue that confounds it being entirely about their voices; but maybe part of the problem was Mococo's voice was unusable for a long homework period and backed things up. You've heard of holos doing 50 takes to get 1 final paragraph to use in production... which would be the exact opposite of what Mococo's voice needed.

>> No.76225389

>>76225308
Comes back to a post I made yesterday. I expected less streams, not possibly NO streams every week when they said that they'd be slowing down.

>> No.76225414

>>76225193
They're still getting subs. They will hit a million no matter how little they stream. On the other hand they won't hit a million by their anniversary no matter how much they stream. With these in mind idol activities are strictly superior to streaming.

>> No.76225451

>>76225378
They were probably told to so fluffy week and promised Mococo would rest and she instead completely fucked it up worse and proved she couldn't be trusted which led to the suspension. That doesn't really bode well for management trusting them in the future, such an unforced mistake after doing so well

>> No.76225459

>>76225389
Why are you surprised? Some JP chuubas basically go MIA whenever they are focusing on their idol work.

>> No.76225514

>>76225459
Because the only 3 people I can think of in EN who also focused on extra activities, Mori, Kiara, and Bae, have all pushed forward and manage to stream a bit even when they're in the heat of their activity.

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>> No.76225563

>>76225514
Oh sorry, and Irys who did have a small break with her throat problems, but still streamed for the most part.

>> No.76225570

>>76225308
KYS anti. They enjoy streaming and spending time with us.

>> No.76225576

I'm surprised to find out that Sora covered this song recently. I wonder if she's a fan of the anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R4_cwfZ9sU

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>>76216023
I'm feeling happy about the updates. It's all I wanted from them.

>> No.76225590

>>76225514
What about IRyS? She can go weeks without streaming.

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>> No.76225637

>>76225576
I was surprised too. What a blast from the past. The manga hasn't ended yet the last time I checked.

>> No.76225655

>>76225414
They aren't lazy whores like most of EN and they actually enjoy streaming. They won't do that.

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>> No.76225683

>>76225637
>The manga hasn't ended yet
the fuck

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>> No.76225751

>>76225514
They're just more experienced and better at managing time than FUWAMOCO are. Even though Kiara also is a hardcore social media addict too she's efficient with how she uses it. It seems like fuwamoco scroll it for hours on end every night destroying their sleep and health. If they want to reach even the same breath as the ones you mentioned they need to step it up a ton and stop destroying their bodies. The house and cooking situation should have already been addressed, but instead they'd rather be autistic and suffer. Little things like that add up and the best don't have issues like that any longer. They take breaks when needed and actually REST when they do. Mococo destroys her voice and stays up all night on Twitter even when she promises to be resting. They need a reality check if they are actually committed to going 200% all in like they claim. Prove it.

>> No.76225773

>>76225683
Yeah is still ongoing.

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>>76224274

>> No.76225810

>>76225655
Well then they should give up on the sololive dream. They have proven they can't manage both. So do they want to be idols first or streamers?

>> No.76225826

>>76225514
>ignores their voices being fucked for trying to do both
everyone isn't built the same way. some talents can do both some can't

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>> No.76225851

>>76225193
>But then that goes on to be that they won't magically gain subs up to their 1m if they focus hard on idol activities
You never know. Mumei streamed the least in Promise but for some reason, the algorithm favored her and she was the first to broke 1M.

>> No.76225871

Don't read posts longer than one sentence.

>> No.76225911

>>76225810
Idols 100%. They are idols who stream, not streamers who are idols. This is clear from the start.

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>> No.76225922

>>76225871
Eh true, only a very small handful are actually worth reading

>> No.76225936

>>76225851
Because when she did stream she did huge numbers things like karaoke, particularly the ultra endurance and vertical unarchived ones. Then restreaming them to get even more subs while resting

>> No.76225965

>>76225810
What ever gave you the idea that they would be streamers first? Almost all their goals are idol focused. They streamed a lot because they had no opportunities to do idol reps. Now they do.

>> No.76225994

>>76225751
While staying up for Twitter shit might be a problem, lets be real. It's more that they overbooked themselves as if they would never need a few days to take a break and now it's biting them in the ass. They're part of projects that took a hit on release date because they couldn't record well enough or properly for what they needed to do and it was so bad that management thought it might even affect the 3d recordings so they put them on ice for a week.
The main issue that plagues them is the amount of homework they took on. Unlike a stream where you might be tired or sick and can cancel, they can't just handwave the homework if they really aren't feeling great without getting in some trouble. They put themselves into this situation by being unrealistic with themselves and their abilities, and now streams are basically kaput because of it.

>> No.76225998

>>76225871
never had, never will

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>> No.76226103

>>76225965
Nothing, I was responding to a retard saying they "weren't lazy like the rest of EN" and would still stream a lot. They aren't lazy but they do have to choose their path and they've picked idol as they've always said they would. Streams are an absolute afterthought moving forward. They told us this from debut. If you prefer streams, leave now and find someone else like biboo or shiori

>> No.76226120

>>76225936
>vertical
She didn't do verticals. She did do unarchived.

>> No.76226151

>>76226027
>visible saliva trail after kissing
I’m about to blow…

>> No.76226176

>>76226120
Sorry I was just spamming buzzwords of what fuwamoco should do if they did care yet about it (they don't). You're right.

>> No.76226228

>>76225773
oh well
I'll check it out again if it actually gets finished

>> No.76226234

>>76225994
There is no main issue. If it removes sleep time it's all equally bad. Lost sleep compounds no matter what you were doing.

>> No.76226366

>>76226103
I'm not saying that they'll stream "a lot", you fucking nigger, I'm saying that they won't completely stop streaming.

>> No.76226384

>>76226176
Is all random luck. The algorithm just favor her and her subs rocketed.

>> No.76226413

>>76226366
Sure sounded like it when Moco-chan said that it might be less streaming than when they were moving.

>> No.76226453

>>76225994
All of those are factors but it all boils down to them being terrible at time management. Wasting time on Twitter, overbooking homework, streaming for way too long instead of taking breaks for homework, etc. They have shown complete inexperience there and it's hurt them a lot. As you said, I wouldn't be shocked if they were personally responsible for delaying some internal cover/holo projects. They need to realize they can't just squeeze everything in to neat time slots and call it a day. There's prep, their voices and body have to be in top or good shape. I trust someone or multiple people had a come to Jesus talk with them this month because it would only get worse if they kept up the way they were going.

>> No.76226550

They will probably stream once their voices get under control, if ever. Mococo was already sounding scratchy during the zatsu. Maybe they can only handle two out of three between singing, recordings, and streaming.

>> No.76226564

>>76226366
They canceled the only regular guaranteed stream they had and aren't having a schedule until September. What part of that leads you to believe they'll stream much? They will obviously force in a few guerilla 1 hour talk streams but beyond that it sounded like no games or longer streams were even a consideration for months.

>> No.76226609

>>76226550
The dogtor tweet pretty much confirms it. I really don't want them to fall sick now. It will be a fucking disaster.

>> No.76226620

>>76226550
I felt like I was the only one who noticed that little scratchy-ness at the tail end of the stream. If wasn't a bunch, but just a few lines she said came out a little rough.
>>76226564
>1 hour talks
You mean half an hour and 2 hours of SC milking, right?

>> No.76226625

>>76225994
THIS. The problem is not the streams or the time spend on Twitter, the problem is FWMC burning themselves by overworking with a lot of homework.

>> No.76226748

>>76226609
I just hope the damage wasn't too permanent or severe. The fact they just liked a tweet saying they didn't sound too bad does not give me confidence that they fully grasp the severity of the situation. I pray the dogtor really gave them the full direct talk.

>> No.76226805

>>76226748
The bau bau... was them getting yelled at for being stupid.

>> No.76226823

>>76226748
They can just focus on dance work for now. So I don't think is that bad.

>> No.76226825

>>76226625
The problem isn't any single thing. If they went to sleep when they made that "Tomorrow is big" tweet (4 hours ago btw) they would be a lot better off than they would be.

>> No.76226912

>>76226825
They probably do what Kiara does. Sit in bed and have their mind race so they stupidly grab their phone, turn on the screen (which jolts your brain a little awake) and then sit there until they 'feel tired' again and repeat the process one or two more times.

>> No.76226978

So what happens if CTW2 is announced, but Advent isn't part of it because their 3d won't have been released at that point yet?

>> No.76226991

>>76226625
They have a lot of shit they commit too. I do think they are still being forced to not stream as much until Mococo's voice fully recover's, because their voice is their money maker. Without it they can't stream or perform. However, I feel like people underestimate them. They have been work horses for other career paths. However, the difference is there are more eyes on them and a lot more people depending on them. My fear is that it's not streaming that burns them out, but the company's restricting them from doing what they want, even if it may be for their own good, or at times, for the company's benefit alone.

>> No.76227047

>>76226912
They need to stop having the phone in bed. That's ruining the entire night sleep. They also 100% count the 4 hours they just spent in Twitter in bed as part of their 7 hours of sleep a night. They should be locked out for their own good. I was very disappointed when they admitted they were browsing twitter a lot during their rest week.

>> No.76227159

>>76226991
>The company's restricting them
I mean, they have to realize the odds of them getting their solo live are infinitesimal based on EVERYTHING that's been EN for the last almost 4 years.This is assuming the work their taking on is purely for management favor, which it might not even be that.

>> No.76227177

I love them and they love me

>> No.76227267

>>76227047
shut the fuck up faggot, they are grown adults. right now they are enjoying the attention. they will eventually get used to it.

>> No.76227312

>they're sleeping right now
If you genuinely believe this you are retarded lol

>> No.76227325

>>76226991
They were always workhorses but that's because they were fighting just to survive. It's one thing to still be hungry but they don't need to work themselves to the bone every second like they did in the past. Resting one day isn't going to cost them any opportunities. And if it does, that's a sign they had too much on their plate. If they mean it about doing this for the long term and going for a sololive, they need built in rest and maintenance days. And no, doing HW and 8 hours of covak training and recording doesn't count as a rest day...

>> No.76227386

>>76227267
Grown adults ruining their fucking health because they're acting like middle school kids wasting away on social media. They don't have to spend 4 hours a night egosurfing, the love is always there

>> No.76227391

>>76227047
>I was very disappointed when they admitted they were browsing twitter a lot during their rest week.
Did you tell them that?

>> No.76227417

>>76227267
NTA but for the best sleep hygiene it's best to avoid things like watching TV or browsing your phone while in bed, otherwise your mind starts associating the bed with things other than sleeping. It can be a nasty feedback loop.

>> No.76227475

>>76227325
That's what I don't get about them or the faggots here. It isn't a fucking race, there are quite a few hags in Holo at this point who do a-ok and pace themselves, and even did so at their start. It's good to be ambitious because that creates internal drive, but you have to manage it with some level of realism because otherwise you legit burn out so hard you disappear for months.

>> No.76227551

>>76227417
Yep. No TV in the bedroom is one of the best first steps. The second is putting your phone across the room on a table where you can't reach it when your mind is trying to settle down and you're thinking about things from the day.

>> No.76227607

>>76227391
Yes but they don't really value my opinion and I'm not going to force it. Obviously the people praising them for using social media an unhealthy amount are the majority so I'm not going to scream into the void more outside of /here/ for thr most part.

>> No.76227608

>>76227159
>work their taking on is purely for management favor
This. They think that by acting like the managers doormat the managers will help them achieve their dreams, but the managers don't give a fuck about them or their dreams, they only care about making money and FWMC will have to learn that the hard way.
Eventually management will try to force them or trick them into homocollabs, I just hope FuwaMoco are smart enough to stop trusting management before that happens.

>> No.76227626

>>76226625
>take less homework
>egosa 8 hours instead of 4

>> No.76227714

>>76227608
They'll learn that lesson eventually. I imagine mane chan gets promoted soon off of driving them into the ground because numbers and forgets they even exist. Then they have a new manager that couldn't care less AND which has no experience with them. They're so fucking naive to corporate politics, unsurprisingly that it's going to fuck them hard one of these times.

>> No.76227732

>>76226564
>aren't having a schedule until September
Who's ass did you pull that from?

>> No.76227780

>>76227607
If they stop using twitter 4 hours a night I won't get my likes, sorry it has to be like this. They're here to make us happy first after all.

>> No.76227802

What would Fuwawa and Mococo say if they read the concernfagging that's going? Personally I believe the would giggle and tell you guys to calm down, and they will keep doing things the FuwaMoco way.

>> No.76227849

>>76227732
Mococo's thick royal one in the mat

>> No.76227912

>>76227802
The fuwamoco way is going to lead to them going on indefinite hiatus for months or worse burning out completely and graduating in a year

>> No.76227955

>>76227802
you mean being vague and not tell us anything? i just want stability, but that will come way later.
for now we are at the "we don't really know what's going on" era

>> No.76227994

>>76227802
>and they will keep doing things the FuwaMoco way.
The fuck does this even mean anymore?

>> No.76228024

>>76227955
Yeah all the stability that will come when they're participating in every 3D event , collab and homework project they can and we get one solo stream a month

>> No.76228030

>>76227994
whatever they do

>> No.76228045

>>76227994
Being unrealistic with yourself and pushing yourself to needing to take breaks from streaming.

>> No.76228138

>>76227994
Destroying your health, career and reputation by making the worst decisions possible every step of the way. Alienating fans constantly after months of building trust to chase a random goal then suddenly giving up on that goal and chasing other vague projects with little to no info or interaction with your fans for months

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>>76226027
Holy SEX. God the saliva trail hot as fuck. And Fuwawa and Mococo...AHHHH

>> No.76228229

>>76227994
I don't think even they're really sure

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>>76227994
>>76228229
>tfw even fuwamoco's motto is vague

>> No.76228388

For how much this thread complains about the fanbase itself, you sure managed to be the absolute worst part of it.

>> No.76228528

dogs funny

>> No.76228533

>>76228388
>fanbase
Also, everyone is /here/ so this thread and the "fanbase" are one in the same

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>>76228388
ye man, complaining about fwmc and the unknown future is bad. now lets go back talking about dick balls and twitter likes or gossip about a bunch of nobodies

>> No.76228569

>>76228388
The only good thing about this fanbase is AndyTran

>> No.76228702

shiori doing a mococo impression confirms that mococo is retard
very cute

>> No.76228797

>>76227994
Not streaming for months while doing homework that will most likely get canceled.

>> No.76228833

i just like the twin denim gourd dogs and wish them well okay

>> No.76228874

oh I didnt know through fwmc streams but mococo is done with her signing and fuwawa is still doing it

>> No.76228943

>>76214836
Nah it's literally the opposite this time

>> No.76228956

>>76228303
Anything about them is vague. Do you want to know what shampoo they like? Demon guard dog shampoo.

>> No.76228964

>>76228569
Which is why he's the only one that's still in the potential husband pool after their time in hololive is up. And even he isn't quite good enough yet for them to quit and settle down.

>> No.76229063

>>76228797
>Most likely get cancelled
That's a bit extreme. It's just that a lot of work will be poured into something that lasts an hour max or into stuff like cross-promotions, so it takes a while for any of it to show up.
It will still never be as much content as 2-3 regular streams a week would be, and that's why they'll never be rewarded on a personal level for it other than personal satisfaction for singing a song they wanted to or making an orisong because they want a big library of music to arvue for a solo live.
By the way, faggot management stuff won't get you a solo live, orisongs that do well and knowing Japanese will, so they're like an 8th of the way there considering getting your orisong popular is like a roll of the dice.

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>>76227994
staying true to themselves even if it means making dumbfuck decisions with 0 thought put into them

>> No.76229127

If you want to be parasocial go groom 2views on discord. Don't pick aspiring idols with 100s thousands of fans and expect close relationship

>> No.76229162

Randomly bringing up names is played out, you’re still scheduled for the “calling them retards” strategy today.

>> No.76229173

>>76229127
kill yourself gachischizo. you're in the wrong fanbase

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>>76227994
being retarded and refusing to acknowledge the fact that streams are more important than whatever the fuck the management is offering to them

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If Fuwawa says "I want to (sexually) mess up Nerissa so bad", what Mococo would say in response?

>> No.76229340

>>76229127
Fuck off I don't give a shit about idol crap or parasocial bullshit. I just want to be entertained with streams.

>> No.76229354

>>76227994
It means BAUBAU

>> No.76229403

>>76229340
Baded entertainmentschizo?

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they may be a little dumb, but thats okay cause they're MY dummies.

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>>76229489
Baused except they're mine and not yours

>> No.76229542

>>76229127
I do both.

>> No.76229562

>>76229527
Nuu uh, they’re MY headstrong wives.

>> No.76229606

>>76229127
I just want a few games and some streams where they chit chat about their daily life. But they don't want to talk very in depth about that so we end up getting what we got Saturday, 45 minutes of chatting and 2 hours of SC reading.

>> No.76229610

I trust they will eventually realize hololive is never giving them a sololive and I'll still be here then to give them a shoulder to cry on with headpats. Can't wait for it, so many cozy VN streams and actual fun await us then just got to be patient.

>> No.76229615

>>76229340
What streams?

>> No.76229628

>>76228874
They're both done.

>> No.76229673

>>76229127
Just do both, neither side will ever find out if you use burner accounts. Fuwamoco are nice for big shows and getting attention as a fan from other fans, 2 views are great for actual love and care from the streamer for their fans

>> No.76229691

What are the chances that some Japanese college dudes have tried picking up FuwaMoco on the streets?

>> No.76229697

>>76225576
Sora is cute

>> No.76229712

>>76229610
But I already had that. I just want it back now because I'm impatient.

>> No.76229717

>>76229691
Probably have both been groped on the train at least once

>> No.76229731

>>76229228
>streams are more important
but hololive doesnt have streamers ts an idol company

>> No.76229742

Being a gachikoi makes you a cuck because you share the same two women with tens of thousands of other men across the globe who tell them the same things you do

>> No.76229773

I shared your mom with my hand and my cock last night lmao

>> No.76229776

>>76229717
All me

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>>76229731
somehow whoever did the report knows streaming is the most important thing
and yet le epic japanese mindset keeps fucking it all up

>> No.76229802

>>76229691
I don't think they're exactly "pickup" material

>> No.76229843

I don't care about idols I want them to stream games

>> No.76229884

>>76229793
IT
IS
THEIR
CHOICE
Yes, the stuff like 3d reveals, CTW, FES, etc are 100% required by Cover, but they continue to pick more homework for whatever their reason. We have no idea why they choose homework over streams, but they do.

>> No.76229896

>>76229717
>All the gachikoi yearn for the warm touch of FuwaMoco and for the perverted salaryman onboard the Yamanote-sen it was a Monday

>> No.76229900

>>76229691
This just reminded of when they got a flyer meant for the elderly. What did that person mean by that…?

>> No.76229935

>>76229884
yes, its their choice to be retarded
why are you yelling

>> No.76229949

>>76229691
0% chance. There's two of them, and theyre gaijin, which is intimidating to the average estrogen-filled Jap college kid. Also, the Japanese celebrate youthful features and
FuwaMoco are going gray with literal WRINKLES.
At most, they'd get hit on by a corporate ojisan, but even then the chances are slim to none.

>> No.76229961

>>76229802
An ojisan once approached mococo and asked her to be a part of a jav

>> No.76229999

>>76229935
Because that post is insinuating that they don't have a choice in this matter and that it's the company's fault they picked up all the extra work.

>> No.76230011
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>>76229691
>"Futago? maji de~"

>> No.76230012

>>76229961
And Fuwawa had to cuss him out

>> No.76230033

>>76229742
bit those tens of thousands of men are literally all me. the only cuck here is (you)

>> No.76230055

>>76229961
With an ass like that I don’t blame him

>> No.76230095
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Been gone for a few days, hope everyone has been behaving.

>> No.76230098

>>76230055
She wears dresses in public

>> No.76230117

>>76229949
>Also, the Japanese celebrate youthful features and FuwaMoco are going gray with literal WRINKLES. At most, they'd get hit on by a corporate ojisan, but even then the chances are slim to none.
I feel bad but yeah this is kinda true. They're still cute tho.

>> No.76230129

>>76230098
And?

>> No.76230177

>>76230117
>wrinkles
source?
also, they should talk about skincare products like marine did one time, it was fun

>> No.76230204

>>76230098
A veteran ojisan, especially one who recruits for javs, has vision that can pierce through any article of clothing. You’ll understand when you’re older

>> No.76230253

>>76229999
sorry
it wasnt the intent
what I mean is that even knowing that stream is the core of the business, the japanese suits will still push bullshit into the talents
not that the talents have no choice

>> No.76230367

>>76230177
Loot at their latest (as in taken in 2024) photo and look under the eyes. I was instantly reminded of my aunts who are decades older than me and I'm an ojisan.

>> No.76230491

anyone know how to induce a 3 month coma?

>> No.76230496

>>76229961
>>76230055
On one hand, she would have ended up as one of the top JAV stars(japs love white women), but on the other hand, she would have been so depressed she probably would have killed herself.

>> No.76230513

>>76229949
Japanese men all love large breasts and they don’t have those either. They’re really just train molestation material

>> No.76230544

you guys are boring. every thread its the same exact lewds. no wonder you watch vtubers.

>> No.76230569

>>76230496
Well now we're in the timeline where the second half is still true and we don't get to see her sexy body fully so is this reality any better?

>> No.76230585

>>76230491
If you find out, can you let me know before you do it?

>> No.76230612

>>76230569
I'm not a cuck, so yeah?

>> No.76230651

>>76230569
This is best time of their lives though

>> No.76230669

>>76230513
>They’re really just train molestation material
they stand with their butts pressed up against each other so they can't be molested.

>> No.76230714

>>76230569
> we don't get to see her sexy body fully
Good. That right is reserved exclusively for Fuwawa

>> No.76230734

>>76230651
True. I can't imagine what living with/visiting Mama and especially Papa puppy was like in 2019-2022.
I'm glad I personally have never been seen as a 'failure' by my parents.

>> No.76230795

>>76230612
>I’m not a cuck
Lmao stfu cuck, >>76229742

>> No.76230828

>>76230569
>we don't get to see her sexy body fully
Will the virtual 3D swimsuit summer FuwaMoco count?

>> No.76230853

It smells like fish in here 24/7 close your legs

>> No.76230868

>>76230828
No because cover are fags that use copy paste bodies for 3D swimsuits

>> No.76230902

>>76230491
I heard hydrogen peroxide in ears works wonders

>> No.76230924

Oh shit, they announced the break just at the right time. I can kill my mem for a little bit since they don't really seem to use it much anyways and they're going on a psudo-hiatus.

>> No.76230932

>>76229742
I SC and support them more than your average p*ypig. Don't you place me on the same level as poorfags.

>> No.76230947

>>76230795
Anyone who invests any amount of time watching a woman who isn't their wife/family is a cuck if we go by your worldview.
Kill yourself.

>> No.76230971

>>76230491
Turn your brain off. Effectively you won't notice the months or years going by.

>> No.76230998

>>76230947
You consider fuwamoco your waves to e same as the other guys across the globe and some with even more money than you lol you are a cuck

>> No.76231020

>>76230932
Based Gabe/Anan

>> No.76231029

>>76230868
That's lame. Will Fuwawa have jiggle physics at least? I'm too lazy to look at last year's Summer 3D streams.

>> No.76231047

>>76230998
>fuwamoco your waves to e same
GOOD MORNING SARS

>> No.76231059

>>76231029
Where were you for oversexualized Towa meltdown?

>> No.76231093

>>76229742
Gachiniggers your response?

>> No.76231102

>>76230998
based seanigger

>> No.76231167

>>76231093
You are gay.
I just want cute stories so I can pretend that they are my wives. I will never SC and will buy some of the merch I like. They are cute and I want to fuck them, and even though I know I never will, it's still fun to pretend sometimes.

>> No.76231169

>>76229742
This is why you should never be a Wefaggot. No, they aren't "our" wives. No, they don't love "us." They're MY wives and they only love ME specifically.

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>>76231059
I can't remember. Was that before or after pic related's music video?

>> No.76231245

>>76231167
>I can pretend they are my wives
Yeah you still share them with other men tho, cuck behavior

>> No.76231261

>>76231194
Part of the same music video. It was her in the limo tying a cherry stem with her tongue. That shit was comical and listening to Reine talk about it a bit a little after it came out was pretty funny.

>> No.76231284

>>76231169
Based. I've never said we and I never will. I have a personal relationship with them and them alone. You fags don't even exist in it.

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>>76231169
>>76231284

>> No.76231360

>>76231309
kek

>> No.76231389

>>76231169
But if you say it and another guy says it, then another one does then who's right?

>> No.76231393

Think the thing I like least about them is how vague they are, they obviously aren't required to share things about themselves with us, but they go out of their way to basically only give us really fucking light versions of their day. It feels kinda dishonest and sometimes like they don't want us to know the real them so they hide behind a lot of kayfabe. That might change in the coming years but I just wanna get to a point where they're comfortable talking about themselves and realize we just enjoy them talking about fucking anything. Or maybe they just suck at any kind of complex conversation.

>> No.76231423

>>76231389
Me obviously because this is MY world.

>> No.76231427

>>76231389
Me because I'm their husband and they're loyal puppies

>> No.76231486

>>76231393
Mococo has crippling autism and Fuwawa had her social development stunted at an early age because she was forced to take care of her. This is just how it is for them, they've never had to make small talk because they only had each other for almost all of their life so vagueness was all that was needed.

>> No.76231548

>>76231393
It's because they believe "the real them" isn't interesting enough for anyone to genuinely care about. They're insecure as fuck and yes your many walls and love bombs are ultimately ineffective against their low self esteem issues

>> No.76231549

>>76231486
Hopefully they grow out of that, but I'm not holding my breath, I just want our talks to more of them and less of the same superchat over and over and over. They just keep repeating themselves and it genuinely starts getting really dull

>> No.76231622

>>76231548
Guess they don't realize that I'm in love with them and wanna hear about every little detail about their day and how it went. Seems like that's an impossibility.

>> No.76231637

>>76231549
Can't teach old dogs

>> No.76231659

>>76231393
If you don’t like the kayfabe then just watch their other streams. Sure they don’t delve deep much there either but it’s more than what we get with fuwamoco

>> No.76231687

>>76231486
I wouldn't call it crippling, but she 100% shut herself off from people during her younger years. It's why Fuwawa hates the 'Fluffy tummy' comments, elephant Mario, etc., because she actually had to deal with teasing and bullying over shit whereas Moco-chan was just sitting in her room playing VN all day and watching idol concerts ignoring all her classmates.
>>76231549
Not a single soul can argue against the fact that hearing them repeat the same SC over and over for 2 hours with the same generic reply is worthwhile.
>>76231622
Or they do and they don't want to get too close.

>> No.76231690

>>76231622
>Guess they don't realize that I'm in love with them and wanna hear about every little detail about their day and how it went.
This unironically, they need to believe it themselves first before believing you

>> No.76231704

>>76231393
Fuwawa is very good at hiding her true self. https://youtu.be/KClnQgyPacU

>> No.76231729

>>76231659
I love the kayfabe, I just like balance I guess. I'm still gonna watch. I just wish they realized how rabid for just learning more and more about them we are.

>> No.76231793

>>76231549
Me too but I don't have a lot of hope either. They don't really seem to want to do zatsus at all so they won't get better. And they've grown a group of supporters that are just constant love bomb SCs which is ok if it makes them happy but dull as fuck content. Usually SCs are random interjections or comments for other holo members that lead to weird tangents short or long. But for fuwamoco/ruffians every single stream just seems to have SCs as if it were a big birthday milestone stream rather than a random Tuesday gaming stream. People need to chill out and stop thinking of the perfect words to make them happy always

>> No.76231797

>>76231687
I'm sure Mococo endured some bullying too, kids are vile as shit

>> No.76231872

>>76231797
Sure, but she just took it and went home and didn't care. Fuwawa tried to reach out to others and got stomped on, which hurts a lot more. It's also why people seem to think Moco-chan is both the doomer and the realist of the two of them.

>> No.76231895

>>76231793
I think they see it as 'chatting' when its really just reading off someone's thoughts in the moment and occasionally responding to a comment in chat. That doesn't really feel like a chat to me, it feels more like them reading a really cringe romance novel love confession over and over and reacting to it.

>> No.76231904

>>76231622
>Seems like that's an impossibility.
Well yeah, they're not in love with you in the first place. FuwaMoco are in love with the idea of being in love.

>> No.76231973

>>76231729
There's a lot of consideration for the casuals. The way they talk about in members streams when the stream isn't about games is different because we all are there for the same reason.

>> No.76231997

>>76231793
At least supas like the ones we get from Monsters Inc are actually something more than just another love bomb repeated a thousand times over for a fucking ordinary zatsu or game stream

>> No.76232034

>>76231904
Nah, they just don't really know how to handle or react to those feelings, and their way of dealing with them is to accept them but never go deeper than a puddle probably because they feel like they aren't worthy to be loved so fully. Seen it plenty and dealt with it myself just as much, one of the reasons I fell for them, they are in fact, just like me for real.

>> No.76232041

>>76231973
> The way they talk about
Stuff

>> No.76232056

>>76231793
Don't forget that the two of them have each other to lean on for chatter, which means they don't go as hard as others HAVE to to keep talking. They look at and read chat, but it's mostly to just talk to each other. The woes of a psudo-constant collab means that the streamers are going to talk more to each other with us listening than talk to us. It's also why the birthday streams and Fluffy week were great, because they HAD TO lean on us to keep conversation going, which makes them talk more.

>> No.76232102

>>76231997
Yeah I do actually see a lot of supas that at least trying to break out from the crowd, and those feel kinda fresh. Then I notice 12 more love bombs coming up.

>> No.76232171

>>76232034
I can see it, especially since they made it clear that they never really understood gachikoi since they’ve never been ones themselves. Plus they aren’t used to love bombing like what they receive as fuwamoco

>> No.76232223

>>76232102
I do think the tide is or at least was shifting for a bit there to more unique SCs but with the backlog and ultra rare streams now I don't think it'll get better for a long time until at least the anniversary is over. Maybe in year 2 we'll finally be down to people sending interesting SCs only when they have fun questions or stories instead of out of obligation because everyone else is

>> No.76232229

>>76232102
I mean, I get it to a degree. Sometimes they just really make me want to shower them with love. Hell Fuwawa's giggles and how she's so soft spoken will have that effect on me alone but goddamn have some restraint

>> No.76232275

>>76232229
>but goddamn have some restraint
Agri...

>> No.76232279

>>76232223
I've noticed a lot of people sending a lot of money once someone else does and the waterfall continuing. I imagine a lot of those people are overextended financially now and will give eventually

>> No.76232295

>>76232171
I think slowly, REALLY slowly. They're starting to get it, they are accepting how we see them, and that when I say I love them, I fucking mean it, its not a platitude to make them happy its my real feelings, I would think Mococo with all her real needy feelings would understand that, but you know see above for accepting love issues.

>> No.76232340

>>76232102
>>76232229
I also it partially has to do with competition for some as well. If someone sees another person dump a love bomb in the form of a rainbow or pika/aka, they'll feel compelled to do the same thing. It happened a lot during freechat. Whenever they showed up what would immediately happen? Superchat bombings for hearts, and you had some like John smith who were actually going menhera over not receiving any heart

>> No.76232350

>>76232229
I was going to go all in during the fluffy rnr so maybe it's best it was delayed to save us all the embarrassment.still prepared to do it the next chance I get. She's beautiful, especially her personality and heart.

>> No.76232389

>>76232279
Its a 'love' rat race, which ironically isn't love, its just them fighting for attention. They don't understand that love is being consistent, being there, and making a choice to get up every day and care about someone. There's definitely a fake aura around tons of those SC's

>> No.76232391

Just remember that when we got gameplay, we got SC related to the gameplay itself. People want something to talk about, but when every stream boils down to
>Sorry!
>We're doing our best!
>Headpats please
>1 tangent for 2 minutes about something here
>We're really trying hard!
>Is it ok if we, maybe chat a little more?
What the hell are you gonna send other than 'Good luck I hope it's going ok!".

>> No.76232392

>>76232340
>pika
pink* lol

>> No.76232445

>>76232340
Because they donate for the wrong fucking reason. Not going off topic for men, but that's genuinely one of my biggest clique issues. It doesn't feel like love, it feels like attention farming with money.

>> No.76232452

>>76232389
>Its a 'love' rat race, which ironically isn't love, its just them fighting for attention
It's kind of like another way of cutting in line for some. They're not content with just a simple message being sent through chat, it has to be noticed by them with superchat. Again it was most prevalent during free chat

>> No.76232499

>>76232391
Why does no one ever ask about what anime or tv show they've been watching recently.

>> No.76232517

>>76232340
>>76232452
Yeah which is why I didn't completely shit on the schizo who threatened to make a fucking wall complaining about it to them because while he did go about it in a retarded way, I could see where he was coming from

>> No.76232533

>>76232391
That's the best time to send something completely unrelated to catch them off guard and take their mind away from the stress. Instead everyone keeps reminding them that they have hundreds of people wildly in love with them to the point they barely are living if fwmc are inactive

>> No.76232571

>>76232452
Mhm, you can tell a lot of these people don't know what love is by their methods. And seeing it makes me wanna go the other way and be myself completely around them, even if it doesn't get any likes or attention.

>> No.76232579

>>76232445
>>76232452
Hell, I won't even say that I'm not guilty of doing that every once in a while. It is nice to 100% be read, but the incessant need to be read lead to the orange culling and now it's just turned into mostly pink.
>>76232499
Because the two of them act like and almost say as much that they are literally doing nothing but work 24/7, and even when they get chatty about something, it shifts straight into what you got on Saturday, Moco-chan being vague about the game and not really talking about what she likes.

>> No.76232590

>>76232499
I don't want to disappoint them with. They have such shit taste I'd be toasted for sure by both of them

>> No.76232650

>>76232571
That's all I do, I might not get a lot of attention specifically but they do still notice it because they've mentioned random as fuck unrelated untagged stuff I've been doing on my profile when I SC. They're fine if you want to be a soulless love bot but it's probably more interesting if you are just yourself

>> No.76232652

Why don't YOU send the oh so interesting superchats? Goddamn imagine trying to backseat other fans. It's a whole new level of madness. This thread is so far up its own arse, it doesn't even know the way back.

>> No.76232654

>>76232223
another thing you have to consider when sending SCs is their limited mental capacity (in a cute way). My first SC had a simple play on words. They didn't get it until they were half-way into a totally off-topic tangent, fumbled and baubau-ed for exit. I haven't tried sending anything with more than one subclause since.

>> No.76232668

>>76232295
I always think back to when Mococo said "it's not that I don't want to believe you" when she was reading superchats during her birthday stream. But then she also said that the more you hear something from someone, it helps the person receiving the message to believe it better. I have hope that they'll understand that some of us actually mean what we say but some people are just too deep in their insecurity that, while appreciative of compliments, they'll never budge in believing them themselves

>> No.76232672

>>76232590
That’s the problem with having elite weeb oshis. Even getting roasted for my pleb taste would be fine though, I just want to hear more about them.

>> No.76232721

>>76232579
I hate to be this reductive about all their baggage and issues but we just gotta be there for them and build them up slowly, not by fucking grooming but by just being there, saying our real feelings and being honest. I hate to call it a project but frankly, I know girls just like them and just telling them they look beautiful or asking them how their day was or just giving them little bits of real genuine support can make them bloom beautifully.

>> No.76232750

>>76232652
No no, please go ahead and send another "I LOVE YOU MY PRINCESSES" SC and get the usual "ehehe, you know FuwaMoco are doing their best!" reply. I'm sure it'll crack the shell one day.

>> No.76232774

>>76232654
Yeah I used to type max character but now I've found short and sweet are usually the most fun. Otherwise they spend all the time reading, stumbling , probably not understanding what you mean then BAU BAUing and moving on

>> No.76232779

>>76232652
>Why don't YOU send the oh so interesting superchats?
I do, but what's that to you and the several others just doing nothing but love bombing? Sometimes even more than once per stream?

>> No.76232809

>>76232672
I have little to no experience, and I would love it if they shit on my tastes, it opens the door for recommendations and them talking about things they love, a little ego hit to make my girlfriends happy is deeply satisfying, and its all playful anyway.

>> No.76232852

>>76232750
You joke but I finally think I broke through Fuwawa's shell during fluffy week. It's impossible if they're both there though, one of them will deflect or they'll just talk to each other instead of you usually

>> No.76232902

>>76232750
Put your money where your mouth is, faggot. Stop trying to cum with someone else's cock.
The idea that a vtuber needs to be paid 50 bucks to go on a zatsu tangent, and even worse, someone else's 50 bucks, not even your own, is genuinely pathetic.
Marine receives a bunch of love bombs supas every time too, nobody gives her tangents, the difference is that she's a zatsu chuuba, she goes through topics on her own. FWMC are not. Deal with it.
The solution is them wanting to talk about something, not trying to force it out of them 50 bucks at a time.

>> No.76232928

>>76232852
>You joke but I finally think I broke through Fuwawa's shell during fluffy week.
Eh, more like "cracked." I've done the same thing several times, even with just messages sent in chat for free. It happens, but no, ultimately, apart from those moments, it'll all go through one ear and out the other before moving on and doesn't change how they feel about themselves at all

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>>76232340
hey fuck you, I actually sent it because they announced that they just arrived in japan but being blatantly skipped hurts so much

>> No.76232996

>>76232852
You're mentally ill

>> No.76233021

>>76232652
shut the fuck up gbraga

>> No.76233051

>>76232928
Failing doesn't mean we give up, even if it takes years, hell even if they never believe me until they day they graduate, I want to keep saying it, and when I'm there hopefully a few years down the line still saying it and being honest. I hope that'll be enough. If not, well I tried.

>> No.76233097

>>76232997
Wonder why they dislike him so much...never even bothered to find out.

>> No.76233128

>>76232499
they don't really want to say anything about that
someone asked what vn they play recently and they dodged it
someone asked whether they watch something from this season? dodged

>> No.76233161

>>76232902
I didn't have to pay anything, dipshit. I once sent a comment about some random old anime and Mococo went on a tangent about how it was a favorite of hers and had a video game I didn't even know existed. It was Fuwawa who moved her along when she was about to talk more about old anime.

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RAFFEANS
WHY DID YOU LET THE SISTERS DOMINATE THE THREAD

They activated their bots and discordfriends today in every holo thread due the amount happenings uncovering their bullshit
>>76229952 homo break due rainbow people spam
>>76216877 homo inviting t-word into the fanbase
>>76225040 niji plagiarism
>>76226143 homofag trying to shit hololive with bots and dickord-friends
>>insert empty nijistage here

>> No.76233241

>>76233021
At least it wasn't Gabe this time, I leveled up.

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What still puzzles me to this day was how they just shut down when Nerissa asked them what kind of dakimakura they own if they even owned any

>> No.76233276

>>76233161
Grim, I fucking want more anime tangents. I WANT that, please don't move it along its a precious scant look into Mococo, who's already incredibly reserved and quiet.

>> No.76233281

>>76233247
sugar and grains tend to make people dumb

>> No.76233300

>>76233241
>BR from a flip
>leveled up
eh...

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>>76233281

>> No.76233333

>>76233300
Not any flip, Gabe. I wouldn't call it a level up if you called me Raul.

>> No.76233344

>>76233097
Because he's literally schizophrenic. He sent a rainbow that he thought was a joke but read like a suicide goodbye superchat. I think they are actually really uneasy about him

>> No.76233385

>>76233247
God I can feel the years of loneliness and not having anyone other than each other to bounce off of. I need to save them.

>> No.76233418

>>76233344
>sent actual interesting supa
>treated like schizo
now you know why

>> No.76233443

>>76233247
Well T5 know the answer. It's a bunch of eroge and loli VN characters. After how people overreact to everything you can see why they would rather stay quiet in an all advent collab. They wouldn't even talk about that in a ruffian only stream

>> No.76233449

>>76233344
Makes sense, I guess me thinking about my tweets for like 10 minutes isn't too bad to the alternative.

>> No.76233462

>>76233215
this isn't sister, go back 6-10 hours and see what actual baits are like.

>> No.76233488

>>76233344
Kek I remember that,
>"FuwaMoco, by the time you read this, I'll already be...."
>Silence and confusion
>"Ohhh for a second you had me worried there ehehehe"
what was that autist thinking

>> No.76233511

>>76233385
At least they have each other which, while they say it doesn't count, is probably better than we have.

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>>76233443
They've definitely masturbated to an eroge scene together, or at least left their chairs wet

>> No.76233555

Their idol history zatsu in their RM's channel is one of the best zatsus I've watched. No "what anime did you watch recently" 2 minutes tangent can beat them actually wanting to talk about something. If you have a subject you'd like to hear about, it may be more useful to send on #helpFWMC and hope they want to talk about it than trying to co-host the stream through superchats.
Only supa I've sent talking about anime was in the Cobra watchalong, because we were watching anime. I find it weird to go on a completely unrelated subject like this, as if I'm the streamer. The topics should come from them, not me. My message, be it chat, superchat or tweet, should be in reaction to their content.
Nothing against people trying to do that, just explaining why I don't, and why I don't think it's reasonable to demand.

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>>76233385
>I need to save them
I'm afraid that's not possible. They'll always have each other and maybe whenever they move on, a legion of cats to cope with the fact that they missed out on being mothers like most cat ladies

>> No.76233649

>>76233555
Oh my god I forgot about that, I regularly go back to that one, they amount of passion, professionalism and love in that is so amazing that its staggering. I want them to do that as FWMC, because when they're passionate I cannot help but cling to every word.

>> No.76233692

>>76233555
they just don't want to talk about anything personal as fwmc, that's the only conclusion i get.

>> No.76233708

>>76233597
I can leave them in a better place than they were before they fruitlessly try to go off and find a japanese husband, and hopefully the friends they make here stick with them so its not just them after they leave.

>> No.76233716
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Whats wrong with love bombs? Sakamata gets it every fucking stream too.

>> No.76233715
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pQMSWY7o0

>> No.76233781
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>>76233716
Wait until you find out who most of Sakamata's paypigs were formerly

>> No.76233784

>>76233692
I just find that so weird because its a massive platform where they can share their dreams and experience together with more people than they've ever had access to, their RM is not a secret to basically anyone who watches them regularly.

>> No.76233887

>>76233692
And that's their choice, nothing wrong with that. You can hope they open up more, you can send superchats to try to get them to open up more, but this common notion that it's every fan's duty and those who don't are in the wrong is weird to me.
Maybe try engaging with their hobbies and asking for recommendations? The only Rawr n Response reply I got was telling them that I was playing a VN. Try playing one of the ones they recommended, share your thoughts and ask for another recommendation maybe, I don't know.
Sounds more natural to me than "so, food has been tasting good lately, huh?"

>> No.76233931

>>76233555
If they wana zatsu, they definitely can. My guess is they personally don't want to as FWMC and I can respect that. Is not like their favorite idol group dempagumi did much zatsus anyway. And ruffians probably know more about FWMC than FWMC knew about dempagumi when they were idolfags.

>> No.76234075

>>76232852
You broke through the shell because she was alone and didn't have Moco-chan to deflect to. It happens every time, send something cute to one or both of them, they look at each other and give a canned response, and then move on.

>> No.76234084

>>76233887
Not my duty, its something I wanna do cause I love them. No other reason, I wanna show them love and hopefully help them understand that they aren't unlovable. If it works, I'm happy. If it doesn't, then oh well. It won't change how If feel even if they don't want to change or address it, unless they tell me to stop or imply they aren't comfortable with the love (Which they for sure are) I'm gonna keep being honest with my feelings.

>> No.76234144

>>76233161
It's because there's two of them. The same thing happens when Fuwawa starts to go, Moco-chan tries to move on too. It fucking sucks.

>> No.76234221

>>76234084
I'm talking precisely about people complaining about this, as if every superchat not giving them a zatsu tangent is in the wrong. None of the zatsu queens in Hololive operate this way. Talking subjects come from the streamer. Again, it's perfectly fine to want to do that, I enjoy every 5 minutes tangent they randomly go into from a superchat, it's great to watch, but I'm not gonna try to do it myself, for the reasons I've explained already. I'd rather send an empty one and let them talk about whatever they want than ask them to share more than they wanted on their own.

>> No.76234239

>>76233784
Actually, it does make sense. If they start talking about their experiences openly, people might shit on them for trying to draw attention to their RM directly. Much easier if they just draw a clean separation.

>> No.76234248

>>76234144
They always feel like they're in a rush when they're together. And act like nobody wants to hear them prattle on. When literally the opposite is true. a 4 hour chatting stream where they broach a wide range of topics and speak more from their heart instead of behind their shell would be beyond kino, and would have swaths of men falling madly in love with them. They really don't understand their own power.

>> No.76234255

my god these threads are still so active? 400+ posts? my ruffian friends what the fuck are you talking about? theres been an increase in their tweeting activity which is nice but surely that cant warrant 400+ posts? take it easy you gentlemen we'll be waiting a while

>> No.76234328

>>76234255
We're talking about what other men should be typing and accusing each other of being random third world viewers.

>> No.76234340

>>76233784
Well to be fair their other streams are a far more comfier environment than their streams as fuwamoco. Probably the only thing that comes close are membership streams which fuwawa admitted preferring since “they are more intimate”. Though i suspect that with time that’ll all change with their RM streams too since around 98% of their audience there are just ruffians and some with fuwawa and mococo pfps lmao. Even Raul moved there recently. As you said they don’t try to make it out to be a secret. Also i think another factor to consider is that people coming into their RM’s streams already know what to expect from them since they have a lot of information about themselves on their patreon, but with fuwamoco they are less transparent since not everyone knows who they are or what their interests are

>> No.76234367

>>76234239
I don't really mean direct RM experiences, everyone knows they like idols, they are idols, it hasn't stopped other mems from doing similar stuff and not getting any pushback. A clean separation is how we got the recent SC stream. Its quality dipped to dull as shit the moment they started going shell mode reading love bombs over and over.

>> No.76234373

>>76234255
Ruffians are passionate about their oshis.

>> No.76234377

>>76234144
>Fuwawa: "And then you know th-"
>Mococo: "BAU BAU!"
>Fuwawa: "Thank you! BAU BAU!"
Yeah...

>> No.76234411

>>76234248
Like I said earlier, the curse of a constant collab. They chat more with each other and lean on each other for topics than they do chat, and when they do take something from chat, it's one of them that wants to talk about it and the other tries to move the one along.
Apparently they didn't watch enough Hololive actual streams if they didn't notice people love this shit.

>> No.76234446

Oh I thought I was on /trash/ for a second there

>> No.76234448

>>76233784
Anon read the summary for their tier 5 membership. They specifically want that environment to be a place where they share a more personal side of themselves. That's the "selling point" so to speak

>> No.76234477

>>76234340
Might just take time to get to that level, when things settle down and they get the people who are actually gonna be sticking around. I know its less that a year, but they're hags so hopefully they ripen with age in that sense too.

>> No.76234486

>>76234367
They went into three different tangents in the first few supas, we didn't watch the same stream

>> No.76234535
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Damn.. feels so long ago...

>> No.76234538

>>76234255
I adore FWMC and love talking about them in any context. Say what you want about our schizo's but ruffians are beyond fucking passionate for these women.

>> No.76234543

>>76234411
they view hololive as a mean to an end not their ultimate goal.

>> No.76234602

>>76234411
>Apparently they didn't watch enough Hololive actual streams if they didn't notice people love this shit.
That's not true though. Zatsu streams always do worse than gaming streams. Part C always get less numbers than part A and part B for big chuubas.

>> No.76234606

>>76234543
steppingstoneschizo...

>> No.76234650

>>76234486
We did, and I stand by what I said, we had some good tangets but it went the way of all SC readings and became dull as Mococo said the same thing over and over again, generally being vague and elusive. Of course that it within their right to do, but me noticing it is not an issue, I am simply noticing.

>> No.76234664

>>76234602
But the core fanbase fucking loves it. If they just want to be Pekora, they shouldn't have commissioned those VN streams, or kept saying "We love you!" over and over.

>> No.76234666

>>76234340
>Even Raul moved there recently
seeing that fag in their chat was hilarious, he probably had to double check which one was mococo just to be sure he wasn’t praising the wrong one

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>> No.76234726

>>76234535
>Rhythm Emotion
Holy based

>> No.76234761

>>76234666
I find that idea really funny that he's watched them this long and likely still couldn't pick between their voices.

>> No.76234818

Fuwawa’s big floofies and Mococo’s beautiful ass

>> No.76234856

>>76234818
Both pressing my cock at the same time

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