/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'll buy anyone a ticket and a hotel as long as you're down to fuck. No gender restrictions.

>>76093116
every vtuber on the featured guest list

>>76093116
I was kind of interested but then saw it was going to be in San Francisco.

I'm going

>>76093116
Not Kirsche.

>>76093116
Please dont forget that the boycott is still going.
No one should attend until they #FreeTheFoxu @KirscheVerstahl

>>76093520

>>76093311
phoning it in for a virtual meet&greet doesn't count.
for contrast, my oshi is going, but more as a visitor than a vtuber, although she'll have unofficial fan meet&greets

>>76093116
I am legally obligated to attend

>>76093116
Me. I'll have ribbons.

>>76093520
lol seeing her dumb chud ass getting booted made me even more excited to go

>>76093627
I want to give out ribbons but I don't know how

>>76093116
me, gonna plap some anons

>>76093157
>no gender restrictions
SLUTTT

>>76093116
Was going, as it isn't far, but reversed the charges after the Kirsche incident. I don't even agree with her chud politics, and think things like Bridges might even be a necessity, even if they sometimes go too far, but I don't want to set a precedent where the local volunteer mob gets to dictate who shows up based on politics.

>>76093861
thank you for staying home. the less chuds that attend, the better the place will smell

>>76093861
It's a vtuber collab not a political convention so I can get the idea.
Especially if the local mob or whatever happens in on there while she's blasting about trump or something and decides to hold Offkai responsible and causes a stink.

>>76093116
how easy is it to have sex with cosplayers

>>76093157
Tickets are sold out, sorry to tell you. No gender-fluid fuckings for you.

>>76093116
I'll go but since people are making the convention political now I might get a Shizzy shirt and wear it there. And when I get confronted pull a Kirsche and keep call them woke/mention my political beliefs/say I'm with the Kirsche shirt wearers until they leave me alone to buy merch in peace.

>>76094121
enjoy having your ass beat

>>76093861
Counterpoint: if the politics is one or extremism or one of violence then people have to be shut out to keep the order. Just an example: if the proud boys showed up armed and with riot gear to "do the fight" you don't risk it.

Second if they put the convention together do they not have a say on how it's run or who gets in? People before Kirsche have been excluded and doubt all of them got a reason or director to sit down with them.

>>76094641
>opinions I don't like are the same as riots

>>76094748
"I like cod liver flavored ice cream" is an opinion. An unpopular one, to be sure, but one that can be respected. Some people's tastebuds are just different.

"I think only cishets are people" is not an opinion. It is an invitation to have your ass beaten, and correctly so.

>>76094748
>ESL reading comprehension

>>76094641
Is having Kirsche on a panel really opt to cause riots?

>Second if they put the convention together do they not have a say on how it's run or who gets in?
They have the right to deny access to anyone who ever made a left wing comment, or anyone with red hair, but does that mean they should? They have a legal right, but not a moral or ethical one.

Me (picnonrel)

>>76095646
Everyone has an ethical responsibility to deplatform fascists. Doesn't matter how many layers of irony or "just asking questions" or "muh freedoms" they muffle their dogwhistles with.

>>76093861
Based.

>>76095848
Kill yourself twitteroid.

>>76095938
Kill yourself chud.

>>76095848

So true Bestie.

>>76093689
ribbonsgalore(.)com

>custom ribbons
>badge ribbons
>custom badge ribbon 1-5/8x4

Make your design. You'll have to pay for some faster shipping if you want it in time though. It's usually best to get at least 50 since that cost the same as just 20.

>>76093116
I would go if it was not on the other side of the globe from me and if they had not been asses towards Kirsche (whom I don't even watch, but it's a matter of principle.)
So, no.

>>76094094
Depends,how ugly are you?

>>76093560
fucking yikes

>>76096519
Please stay in your shithole and don't attend any other fonventions either, chud

>>76099917
>fonventions
what

>>76099945
conventions

If i see someone bending over, i will slap your ass.

>>76096383
Thankfully managed to snag some just now! Thank you so much! Super excited for OffKai!

>>76093116
I would have gone, but we have training to finish. I'd be really out of place, though. I'm too old.

>>76093520
>Please dont forget that the boycott is still going.
You people don't like vtubers and it's sold out. Your boycott failed because you're stupid and your oshi is an irrelevant lardass.

>>76094121
>daydreaming about being confronted
You won't do shit anyway, fatty

>>76093861
>I'm totally an impartial agent in all this
God, you retards really think you're smarter than you actually are. It's obvious you're shilling for that fat bitch. Get over it, faggot.

>>76094981
You won't do shit
>captcha: J0000

Is there a chance I get laid @ Offkai?

>>76102943
Fuck around and find out, chud.
https://youtu.be/HFHOHfnYruI?si=wwrdfZeR4JPOxfOs

>>76099421
elaborate

>>76102584
>Kirshe is someone's oshi
Say it ain't so

>/pol/ still thinks they can ruin our hobby
Go ahead and protest it you dumb faggots, nobody cares.

>>76108635
neither leftoids nor rightoids can stand a space that isn't a political battleground, they destroy everything.

>>76109151
Curious how its only a "battleground" when certain opinions are voiced, and not others. Very curious.

>>76095848
>>76108635
Based. People playing victim while trying to cancel whole states of people while holding double standards and whiny only when their person can't do something at Off Kai should NEVER be respected. Screw the tourist grifters too trying to make v-tubers their next American culture war to farm money off of.

>>76110372
by the way you frame it you're part of the problem.

Man, reddit is going wild today, arguing over politics in a thread discussing a literal vtuber convention. We're all just here for fucking anime girls, bro. It's not that deep.

me im saying hi henya mint and matara and buying a few dakimakuras

>>76113017
wholesome

>>76111842
Either all politics are allowed, or none, pick one, I don't care which. The moment you go after one side, you make yourself fair game to the other.

>>76114070
No. Get the fuck out. You are not welcome.

>>76114070
I already picked "none" but you're a partisan retard and will pretend I'm your enemy simply because I don't want politics in vtubing.

>>76112879
I mean it's gonna happen when you claim why you can't have a panel at a convention completely about politics then have the people around you and outsider tourist tubers center attending Off Kai as a political decision ala Malaysia and Starbucks style.

>>76112879
i don't know about you but i'm also going for the after party orgy.

>>76103487
i'll swallow your dick if you let me fuck your boipussy.

I'm only there for the orgies

>>76093116
All me

>>76093572
it sucks having an oshi in this sea of [derogatory] doesn't it

>>76114070
She wasn't even getting a panel in the first place and had only been vetted recently. No one's viewpoint was been challenged rather the style of the presenter which was constantly going at different groups of people include artists, women, people not liking the n-word, political activists of certain causes, etc. while skirted the line between entertainment and controversy. The convention would likely have all these people attending.

Unlike other people who get denied Kirsche could still attend with her friends and even likely have a booth if she wanted. She was not allowed to take part of someone else's panel THIS year especially with tensions running high since Feb. Niji brings in more money and even they could not come this year. Unfortunately Kirsche likely won't be back ever with the DM leaks, board accusations of mistreatment at Off Kai and the fallout of her fans who even attacked Pippa making promo tweets.

>>76093861
>>76093559
>https://x.com/lomaven5/status/1791983384060723227
Yeah bro, why was she even blacked from the event?, she is pretty safe for the mainstream cons. Remenber /lig/, if you want to participate in a con, hide your true power levels.

>>76103487
if you find marimari_, yes vey high.

>>76119614
hahaha, lmao -- never heard this one before, pissed myself laughing

>>76114839
Except you didn't, unless you are also calling for every other invitee that is openly political on the other side (>gotta support the cause, et al) to be likewise excluded. But you aren't.

>>76120676
Anon, honestly, fuck off, no one want's the shit you are selling here, >>76114839 doesn't care at all about you and your oshi political bs, with every post made it's very clear why offkai doesn't want to touch your lard ass oshi with even a 10 feet pole.

>>76120676
>Nooo, you're political because I said so.
No. Sorry, your political pundit with a 2d avatar isn't welcome. You don't run anything. You don't create anything, and your kind isn't wanted anywhere. Cry about it.

>>76120676
Except there isn't one, at least none that makes politics their primary content like Kirsche does. She's kind of unique among vtubers that way.

They did ban some tranny activist for attacking Pikamee last year, though I suspect that was less about the political position and more about attacking xer fellow vtubers.

>>76121212
>>76121448
I don't even watch this bitch, I just hate two-faced hypocrites like you.
>>76121744
>it only counts as political if I say it does

I'll repeat myself for the cognitively impaired: All politics or none.

>>76122188
>is told to fuck off with the political shit
>y-you swines, you have to chose MY political chuba or you are h-hypocrites
you don't have many people to talk to right?

>>76116926
No I mean I'm actually legally obligated to attend :) Although I'm a bit of a fan of some of the guests!

>>76121448
>>76121744
She was disinvited because volunteers didn't like her political views, no other reason.
I'm just another anon who doesn't care about Kirsche, but I do think decisions like that are cancer and should be a giant red flag to anyone.
The disingenuous framing of "all politics are bad" obviously doesn't fit.

>>76123026
>I can't defend my views so I'm going to project my own insecurities on you
this is just sad at this point

>either everything is allowed or nothing should be
That's not how the real world works. Yeah no shit the people running shit will think shit like "Vtubing and black places" and shit is fine but "are trans people real? lol no" isn't. You absolutely can exclude certain shit, especially if it's a detriment to your bottom line and public perception. If you don't want to support that, then don't, nobody is forcing you to do so. But pretending someone has to in turn support you is fucking retarded. Go cry about your culture war bullshit with Ian Miles Chung and the Quartering and other retards.

>>76123224
>didn't like her political views
Yeah, who would have ever thought that a poltard vtuber would be dislikes. That might even be passable if it wasn't for the fact that this is the entirety of her content.
> another anon who doesn't care about Kirsche
Sure you are.
> should be a giant red flag to anyone.
Literally no one else cares, you stupid faggot. Kirsche and her fans are fucking cancer.

>>76123224
you must be some kind of special retard
>get green lighted by Management to being second for another liver panel
>Management vetted her and backpedals
>Frame the faceless volunteers to try to take some heat off them
>you are a retard
volunteers runs shit, if that were truth then Pippa and phase wouldn't come 2 years in a row
all politics are bad btw

>>76123766
>it's a detriment to your bottom line
Because you scream and cry and shit yourself on twitter and threaten to make it a detriment because you don't like it. You're fooling no-one.

>>76123766
No, dude, if you let a gay girl talk about vtubing, you have to let the god hates fags people speak too, otherwise you're being just as political.

>>76124103
vtubing is a subculture, it doesn't need retarded pearl clutchers

>>76124215
>get green lighted
This never happened.
>Management vetted her
This did, and that's when they told her she couldn't be on a panel.
>Frame the faceless volunteers to try to take some heat off them
Cons are almost entirely run by volunteers. They are going to prioritize them over the poltard vtuber.
> if that were truth then Pippa and phase wouldn't come 2 years in a row
Pippa isn't constantly making streams about how tranmies doesn't real and any policy against racism is bad. Get over it, and get Pippa's name out of the fucking greasy sewer you call a mouth.

>>76124215
>a bunch of details that don't matter
The only point I was making was that she was disinvited for her political views, which is true.

>>76124291
Yes it is, and you aren't part of it. Everyone is going to have a good time and nobody will notice that Ms. Piggy isn't there.

>>76122188
>I'll repeat myself for the cognitively impaired: All politics or none.
Point me to another vtuber that makes politics their primary content.

>>76123224
It is utterly atrocious and an affront to all American principles to ban someone purely for their politics, but let's not pretend that she isn't almost uniquely loud about them, being one of the few, if not the only, vtuber whose primary content is politics.

It sucks, but given the event is in San Francisco and dependent on the local volunteer labor, it also isn't exactly surprising.

>>76124267
You can do the same but no on is going to buy your bullshit. I personally don't give a shit what retard whale said. The fact that someone supports Kiwi farms so adamantly and is still tolerated already shows how much you /pol/niggers are retarded tourist who should be shut out and every turn.
Make your own vtuber con if you are so fucking triggered that no one wants to play ball. You have every right to do that but instead you're here crying and begging to be let in. Absolutely pathetic.

>>76124215
>if that were truth then Pippa and phase wouldn't come 2 years in a row
In her airing her DMs with the Offkai director, it was revealed that the volunteers did indeed want to ban Pippa last year. They were told to fuck off, but Offkai then lost a lot of those volunteers, perhaps resulting in some of the more infamous problems they had that year. The director's unenviable position is that they are even shorter on labor this year, and simply can't risk it for a single indie.

>>76125297
>It is utterly atrocious and an affront to all American principles to ban someone purely for their politics
>Point me to another vtuber that makes politics their primary content.
Either it's an affront, or it isn't, primary or otherwise. Make up your mind.

>>76125429
/pol/ and kiwi farms can both fellate a gun barrel for all I care, and so can you, as can anyone else who thinks its acceptable to play favorites like this.

>>76123224
Not those anons but Kirsche wasn't allowed this year because she was controversial and polarizing with of her style and personality, not because of where she politically fell. Kirsche actually had fans of hers on the voluntary staff and it was an executive team level decision to make this call, not some loud high school kid or one person.

1000 percent Off Kai would have denied Shizzy too if he tried to have a panel at Off Kai regardless of his message.

>>76125993
>play favorites
People are entitled to their own views. If they are hosting an event, often out of pocket and doing it on passion and love alone, they have every single right to tell you to go kill yourself and host your own convention.
You are actually retarded if you think there should be "fairness" when it comes to this stuff. Nobody owes you shit, you fucking tourist.

>>76125297
No, it's not surprising at all that it happened, I just speak up when people talk about it being a good thing, because it's not.
I like my vtubers unhinged, and as long as they're within the law, I don't want anyone else deciding when they're too unhinged.

>>76126041
I don't believe that for a second, "controversial and polarizing with of her style and personality" is just a euphemism for "her politics"

>>76093116
If I see any of you retards. I'll kick your ass.

>>76125993
>play favorites
Correct. It's only rational to host both people that have x quality and people who hate them for said quality. It's just hypocritical otherwise.

>>76126198
>host your own con
>get your own sponsors after we threaten to boycott them for associating with you
>get your own payment processor
>get your own bank
Its the same argument, every single time. Get better material. Its the wrong thing to do, legal or otherwise. That it is legal has no bearing on whether or not they ought to do it.

>>76126237
>I like my vtubers unhinged, and as long as they're within the law, I don't want anyone else deciding when they're too unhinged.

Cry more, chud

>>76126631
>get your own sponsors after we threaten to boycott them for associating with you
Kirschefags are literally trying this right now. The difference is that they're failing because Kirsche is cancer and nobody likes her. There's good reasons for that, but your autism will never let you grasp them.

>>76126631
>I'm such an unlikable cunt that I can't host my own event so I will cry victim until you let me in
lol get fucked tourist.
>legal or otherwise
Nobody owes you shit. It's that simple, I don't have to entertain or debate you on anything. Go cry to daddy Tim Pool to cry even harder on your behalf.

>>76126631
>Gets told she can't have a panel
>Instantly spergs out, pretends she doesn't know why, and demands an answer under threat of leaking DMs.
>Leaks DMs anyway, making sure to black out her co-host's name, but not her supposed company connections
>Directs her fans to harass offkai on twitter and YT
If anything, this directly proves that not only were they right to do it, but that they should have outright told her she wasn't welcome in any capacity.

>>76127094
>>76127411
>its suddenly not okay when we're on the receiving end of it
turnabout is fair play, trash

>>76127180
why do you keep going on about "rights" and "owes"? You sound like a Confucianism-poisoned mainlander. You realize its possible to do something without it being legal mandate, right?

>>76127411
I mean what do you expect from someone who most of their fans come from clover site and fruit farms?

>>76127668
>turnabout is fair play, trash
Sure. Your pig princess is still not getting invited, ever, or potentially to any other con.

>>76127668
>why are you directly attacking the foundation of my dumbass entitlement
Because again, tourist-chama, you aren't owed anything no matter how much you piss your pants. You clearly don't like the organizers and volunteer staff and they don't really like you either so why you're still here crying is baffling to me.

>>76127694
Well, I don't expect much, so the blame is on Kirsche herself. She's the one that caused this and thought she had more clout than she really did. All she had to do was play ball and keep doing her own thing. Now she's burned multiple bridges and revealed that literally nobody is willing to stick her neck out for Kirsche. Good fucking riddance.

>>76093116
I'm going with my normie friends... This is their first time going to event like this, at the very least I hope they're not going to hate it.

>>76128327
Good for you, anon. Have lots of fun for me. I'm going to be stuck at work. Remember to take lots of pictures. When you're older, you'll be glad you did.

>>76128161
>you aren't owed anything
You clearly can't read. Who gives a shit what anyone is "owed"? Do you not understand the different between "must" and "should"? I don't watch this person, and I have no intention of going to this event, but do you know what I do dislike? People like you. People that justify doing the wrong thing (that they just so happen to agree with), because it isn't literally illegal.

>>76093116
i tried watching kirsche once and she was going over a dailymail article so i understand why she was banned

>>76128517
>I don't watch this person, and I have no intention of going to this event
Then who gives a fuck what you say?

>>76128697
>she was going over a dailymail article
Holy fuck, she really is a complete knuckle-dragger.

>>76128725
Someone interested in the position of an impartial third party?

>>76128517
>who cares about what I'm owed
You do since you're still crying that they don't want you and her there.
>you're just trying to justify doing the wrong thing
Nobody is doing the wrong thing here. You again, aren't owed anything so it's not wrong to tell you to fuck off. If the fat land whale can go on the record leaking what their gripe was, burn a bunch of bridges in the process and still cry victim, I don't understand why you would want her there after everything has been said and done. Nobody on either camp benefits from her staying after what she said and revealed.

>>76128889
>impartial third party?
You're not fooling anyone. You're as dumb as the lardass.

>>76128913
Justify your position without using "owe", "rights" or any synonyms. These are not arguments.

>>76129044
>stating a plain truth is not absolute defense
But it is, retard. You know you can't go around this fact and that your whining is ultimately meaningless.

>>76129044
I'll do it for that anon. There's nothing wrong with choosing between the people making the con possible and a retard. There's nothing wrong with telling a retard to fuck off. Feel free to prove otherwise.

>>76129251
The law defines what you "must", and "must not" do, within which, defines what you "can" do. What you "should" do is a narrower definition still. You in no way have shown that the "should" overlaps what is.

>>76129296
This argument only works until you realize that "the people making the con possible" are the ones forcing this dichotomy, meaning they are the ones doing something wrong, not the organizers.

>>76129700
>"the people making the con possible" are the ones forcing this dichotomy, meaning they are the ones doing something wrong
Prove that their actions are wrong. I see no issue with them.

Holy fuck this thread got retarded the moment the lardfags start sperging about that irrelevant bitch, only Rev and Rev's wife gave two shit about her, that's all you need to know about her position in vtubing

>>76129700
Regardless of law, there is no morale or ethical dilemma with not hosting someone who doesn't like you, doesn't want to be there and is a detriment to other guest like Phase talents or trans people. Or anybody who has had their lives worsen by the existence of Kiwifarms. Again, you just feel "owed" something and trying to paint it as if it's act of "fairness". That's fundamentally wrong.

>>76129801
>>76129937
Excluding people for their beliefs is unethical. End of discussion.

>>76130055
>Excluding people for their beliefs is unethical.
I don't see why. For example, I would never hire a Nazi to work for me, and I'd certainly never have them in my home. Why is that any different? And how can you tell me that choosing who I do and do not associate with is wrong?
> End of discussion.
Kek

>>76130055
You can't discriminate someone based on who they are, you can discriminate someone based on their ideas & beliefs, retard-chama. This again all circles back on what you are owed, and you aren't owed shit by a convention for streamers using face rigging tech on anime girls.
>end of discussion
Something tells me you are going to keep yapping.

For anyone who jumped to the end of this thread that might be a little confused as to what's going on, here's an anecdote (Google "crustpunk bar baseball bat" to find it)

>I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."

>And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

>Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."

>And i was like, ohok and he continues.

>"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

>And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

>And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

>And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

The anons who are in here asking for a "reasonable debate" about banning Kirsche are only doing so because if they tried this horseshit IRL they would get their real life asses kicked.

>>76131550
Is kirsche a nazi? Anyway I’m happy /pol/ shit was banned regardless

>>76131682
>kirsche a nazi?
Openly? No, but her audience is full of them. We'll have to wait for the inevitable discord leaks.

looking forward to another rapist incident at offkai because nobody learned from last year and didn't issue any background checks

Well since the retard left, a few 3 views I know are going. I was initially not going to go till Nijisanji was dropped and Holo/Phase stepped in.

>>76132269
And who are these people? Link their channels, dude.

>>76093116
Not me

>>76122188
>gassed the /pol/tards

>>76093520
Fuck off Proctor, no one cares about you stupid ass girlfriend.

As a non-american, is it true that all con-goers have constant sex with vtubers there? I constantly read posts about sex at Offkai with vtubers and while I dismissed it at first, the sheer number of these statements has made me second guess what REALLY happens there. My oshi is going there. She is promiscuous. Please tell me she isn't going to have sex with my chat nemesis. Please.

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And she wonders why Fishman didn't want her in Phase.