/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Still better than not having panels at holobronies

>>75977289
Sorry Hologods are renting a whole concert place with their own expo soon, no need to bother with cons lol

>>75977120
You're joking. Where's this from?
>>75977289
Mori's showing up at the marvel panel and doing a performance.
You know, an actual anime panel for an anime convention.

>>75977382
From the ticket's site

>>75977370
Reminder the tickets for CTW sold out in minutes meanwhile nijikeks...

Left girls, right boys. Kind of really fucking grim.

>>75977120
>>75977920
wait did some seats suddenly become available? Are people giving their seats back?

Officially one hour after sales opened. This is for Group 1.

>connect the world sold out in literal seconds
>bots don't even bother buying seats for this shitty concert

Nijisisters...

>>75978160
Because you can't resale through Showclix.

>>75977120
Is still burger hours, anon. At least wait for the sisters to wake up.

curse you holokeks for buying unpurchasing bots

>>75977120
OH NO WHAT HAPPENED D: this never happened to any NIji concert before-
oh wait, it did

>>75977120
>the girls' part after an hour

Can't wait for the fallout from this where every talent that participated in this disaster tweeting out about wanting to leave Kurosanji.

>>75977120
Oof oof oof

>>75977120
Guess you can't buy seats with giftcards KEK

>>75978662
fallout? They recorded this ages ago. It's not like they can see the crowd.

How many of these seats will actually be filled with an actual living human being?

>one hour in
Jesus, Holofags have incredibly inflated expectations. Come back in two weeks to doompost. I didn't even know they were selling tickets yet (I don't care)

>>75978953
The Livers will appear remotely during the live event.
>>75979019
Enna isn't going to be there which is a big setback imho.

>>75979019
I'm glad to see how highly Holobronies think of Niji. It's very flattering

>>75979108
Yeah there aren't exactly many big names besides Elira and Sonny

>>75979019
>>75979204
took less than 10 minutes for HoloEN to sold out
laughing at the absolute downfall of you niggers

>ndf has arrived

Will the other 2 members of Lazu Light perform DCL or did they retire that song when Pomu graduated?

>>75979278
Neither. They just reuse Pomu's voice because she's not willing to cause a stink by protesting. Same thing with Luxiem and Mysta.

>>75979019
A great concert is one that sells out half of the seats in the first 3 hours.

>>75979369
t. only watches Marvel movies and only listens to Taylor Swift

>>75979019
>I didn't even know they were selling tickets yet (I don't care)
It was announced that ticket sales are today the moment. You're either lazy, poorfag, or both.

>>75979279
NDF is when you hold off your judgment on calling a concert an abysmal failure because it didn't completely sell out after one hour

>>75979353
The funniest situation that could occur is Pomu debuting in Holo and the concert playing DCL with her vocals still attached.

>>75979450
No i only watch Hololive lol

>>75979450
No, just someone who watches hololive.

>>75979524
>>75978160

So how are they going to spin this one to get sisters and scalpers (lol) to buy more tickets per person? There's no meet and greet. We can see just how many spots are left.

>>75979524
Sounds like you feel called out

>>75977997
You place a hold on them when you click them to give you time to sort out your credit card details. People are releasing them without buying. It's only visible because of how slow they're moving in general but it's a normal feature

>1 hour 30 minutes
only way they sell out is if they somehow allow people to buy 5 seats per person lol

>>75979871
They could still fill up. They have 2 weeks...

>>75979914
In general ticket sales for concerts mostly happens on the first day
This is over over anon

>>75979871
T-they have 2.5 months until the concert to sell out! It's only 1.5 hours in! Y'all see! I'll save this and grudgepost this when it's all filled!

t. sister

>>75979914
90% of a concerts ticket sales happen in the first 24 hours so if it doesn't sell out today it never will

>>75977120
No Pomu, no buy. Management should have done better to keep her. Like not pull any of the shit they did with her outfits (plural). Or give her garbage 3D. Or drag their feet on giving her Home3D for a year. Or deny her invites to be in other people's birthday 3Ds. Or "lose permissions" for a song cover right at release, that JPs were able to cover both before and after her. Or not even being willing to discuss a big opportunity that was offered to her directly.

>>75980158
I swear to god the pomudachis would've bought out the girls' side in minutes if Pomu was still around.
It's fucking astounding how badly NijiEN fucked up losing her

>>75979871
>>75978068
Damn why Nijisisters buy all the back seats 1st? THey must have sold like 1k of those back seats already

>>75980158
I so want to know what that "missed chance" was about. Must have been something with Konami

>>75980299
those back seats are not part of the venue lmfao
even AX knew they wouldn't need a full venue for this

>>75980255
Pomu, Selen, and Elira had the vast majority of the NA female audience, the first two are gone and the last nuked her career

>>75980372
It had to do with an idol group that wanted to collab but got canned because one of the niji higher ups is the owner of a rival group.

>>75980138
That's just a blatantly made up number. Ticket sales actually go up the closer to the day the concert happens. 30% of tickets are sold the day of or before and another 30% the week of

>>75980615
I wouldn't know the company i watch sell out in 10 minutes sorry.

>>75980372
I doubt Konami would reach out to her directly. They've been business partners with Anycolor for years, they would know that everything has to go through management. My bet it was an idol group collab, given that a few months prior she released a song cover from an idol group, the members noticed it, and they started talking to each other on twitter. They/their manager probably DM'd her for a collab, not knowing that stuff like that goes through management.

>>75977920
It's been like 1 hour, calm down.

>>75977120
Anyone bother to check the ChroNoir concert's sales? I have a sneaking suspicion that it vastly outsells the NijiEN one

>>75980615
>30% of tickets are sold the day of or before
Source? Because this sounds like the stupidest narrative ever.
Unless you mean the on-site tickets

If the Orchestra seats were $20, I would have bought a ticket already.

>>75977120
>CTW sold out in 10 minutes
>Almost 2 hours in and it barely moved for nijikeks
grim
>>75980823
Not that much better

>Brags about NijiEN not being on the same level as Holo
>Finds it funny that NijiEN concerts don’t sell as quickly as HoloEN concerts
???

>>75977120
Why is that sister sitting alone in the middle of nowhere?

>>75980903
The yellow section will sell out for sure. But the green section might be somewhat empty

>>75981031
kek I just noticed that

>>75981031
Probably wank off to Elira with no looking.

>>75981031
OP, his thread, his life

>>75981031
It's one of our agents going there to take screenshots of the empty venue

>>75980982
Remember when Nijiniggers were shitting on HoloEN during the Luxiem days?
I remember lol
Karma is a bitch ain't it?

>>75980884
"Performances, cultural events and tours were similarly evenly distributed — though with a trend towards longer leader times. 29% of tickets sold on the day or the day before; 30% 1–4 weeks away; 21% 1–3 months out; and 27% of tickets were purchased 3 months or more in advance."https://medium.com/@GetInHere/when-do-people-buy-event-tickets-we-have-the-answers-f99c2a2c1ff4#:~:text=29%25%20of%20tickets%20sold%20on,months%20or%20more%20in%20advance.

The weakness to Holofags is basic research

>>75980903
>random invidual ticket solds one each in the far right and far left section several rows back from the front
I guess they want to be left alone?

>>75981200
so the supposed second biggest vtuber agency is performing below the average?

>>75981200
Nice "research" and nice "link"
HOWEVER
CtW sold out in less then 10 fucking minutes
Niji hasn't sold 10% of the seats in 2 hours

>>75981200
No one is going to FOMO this garbage concert 2 weeks before AX.

>>75981151
>screenshots

>>75981200
>For those costing £11–30, the surge comes later (19% will still buy on the day), while those priced £31–50 rely on the earlier birds with 31% of tickets being sold 1–3 months before the event date.
At least read the article you linked in first sister.

>>75981151
Why would we need agents? Some retarded sister is gonna self report like usual and we'll just use hers.

>>75981286
To be fair jp sells out tickets easily, to the point where they have lotteries for them because they'd sell out too quickly otherwise.
Its just that they don't have close to that popularity and reach outside of Japan.

>>75981200
>basic research
Let's try basic math
Day of or day before event - 29%
7 to 28 days before event - 30%
30 to 90 days before event - 21%
91+ days before event - 27%

Can you tell me why the percentages add up 107% especially when it doesn't take into account the 2 to 6 days prior to the event?

>>75981200
The fuck is this math

>>75981384
It's a turncoat

>>75981506
They're likely gonna advertise it heavily on the day of to try to goad random tourists to watch.

What I can't wait for is the stream shit to leak and for the sisters to cry on twitter about how it doesn't work AGAIN.

>>75981380
And that has nothing to do with the specific section on concerts which they exclusively give the numbers for in the same article later. Seethe

>>75981506
No retard, JP event is always, if not most, based on lottery. NijiJP is not some extra popular group that they have to resort to lottery.

>>75980115
Do sisters even know what a grudge post is yet?

>>75977120
What is the seating capacity? Keep in mind even giant like 5-10 person niji collabs get like 1.5-2k viewers these days and the difficulty attending that is for free and clicking a link on your phone or PC. How many of those people are gonna go to LA and pay a bunch of money in-person. Aren't they a little fucking optimistic there if they have more fucking seats for a concert than viewers they ever ever fucking have individually these days? Who is going to fucking attend this shit that isn't already watching streams?

>>75981639
I didn't know that. Point still stands though, they've sold out venues bigger than this without any trouble.

>>75981637
Late ticket sales correspond to how cheap the ticket is retard, if the event is free or less than 10 bucks than you could expect almost half of the sales on the day.
No sane person would buy a 300 dollars ticket on the day

>>75977120
I'll wait when AX becomes desperate and either discounts tickets or even give them away leading up to the concert. It has happened before where AX become so desperate that end up begging you to take tickets from them before the concert starts.

>>75980615
That's only true for online concerts where the only cost to entry is the price of the ticket and an internet connection, not for physical location concerts where most of planning is already done well in advance due to the traveling aspect of it

>Numberfagging ticket sales on a concert thats almost 2 months away
We continue to transcend rent free in the mind of the monkey, truly we are blessed.

>>75981794
>Who is going to fucking attend this shit that isn't already watching streams?
That's why they're having this at an expo. They're praying that they can fill the seats with random curious con goers. They can't pull another Rhapsody after seeing how bad the first one went.

I wonder what that one sister asking for ticket sales as proof that rhapsody flopped is gonna cope once this one flops too

>>75981286
>Second
Know your place holotrash, even at its worse we're still above you.

>>75981931
The concert venue is not on AX though, it's like half a miles away.

>>75981794
The seating capacity is 7k but it seems like only 3.5k is available for purchase right now as the upper levels are closed

>>75979019
90% of event ticket sales happen within the first hour of them going live.

I wonder what that means for the final count for this one?

>>75981939
Every time someone talks about a different sister from some random other thread, I am reminded how pathetic this board is.

>>75981991
Losemi Fraudcock says what?

>>75981931
That's retarded, the tickets are 140 dollars. Nobody is going to shell out a cool hundred and forty bucks just to check out a concert from curiosity

>>75982055
Oh I'm sorry did we call you out?

>>75977120
why do they choose the seats all the way at the back??? It does not make any sense

>>75982055
So true sister, this board is trash unlike our glorious nyfco doxxsite

>>75981876
The study they did for those numbers were in person events like sports events. Not tickets to basically watch pay per view

>>75981931
>They're praying that they can fill the seats with random curious con goers.
Only if Orchestra seats were $20 and pit for $50.

>>75981906
>lolcow laughed at by the majority of the internet
>lol rent free
btw Elira got a grand total of 48$ for the lazulight anniversary stream
And that's without youtube and niji's cut lol

>>75982203
>The study
Come the fuck on, it's a fucking Medium article with zero citations

>>75981823
You don't know people if you think people wouldn't impulse tickets to watch something

>>75982290
Elira, I know you're reading this.
I'm offering you a hundred bucks to lick my taint, 150 if you rim my anus.
That's a whole lot of money without yt AND Riku's yacht cut

>>75981991
Dunno about that one, chief.

>>75982179
Those weren't for sale. The site doesn't differentiate between seats that weren't sold at all vs seats that are sold out (they're both gray = not available) but you should be able to tell based on how the seats at the top are all uniformly gray.

>>75979532
That would be hilarious, but it's extremely unlikely to happen. The only way she can join Holo in time for that to happen is if she joins JP gen 7, and they debut on or before July 5; it's too early for EN gen 4 or DEV_IS gen 2 to debut, she isn't SEA enough for ID gen 4, and she isn't penis enough for STARS or STARS EN.

>>75982928
ah alright. thx for the clarification.
still, weird to see ppl still supporting this black corpo

>>75977289
>First reply is NIJISEETHE
Struck a nerve by showing how badly your homos are floundering, did we?

>>75983105
Diehard fans will always support their oshi, not really that surprising
I'm more surprised they decided to hold this in the US when everyone knows their main fanbase is SEA these days

They have two months... Surely in 2 months they'll find a way to sell out.

>>75977120
This looks like it's going to be nijiEN's biggest concert yet!

>>75983214
Virtual Rhapsody was held in SEA and that didn't seem to help things at all

>>75983838
Probably because it was 150$ for a ticket lol
Imagine asking SEAfags for that much money, that's like their monthly salaries

>>75981991
Yeah in 2019 maybe

>>75977920
And this is why mixed Gens dont work.

>Chase out the biggest idolfag in the branch through a gross series of mismanagement (unless it was on purpose?)
>tickets to idol event struggle to sell
Who could have seen this coming?

>>75983971
Kek this concert is no different since you need an AX pass and a ticket to get in

>>75981996
it's not the Youtube Theater is it?

>>75982290
Nice deflection but OK

>>75977120
Please do better. At least set a false expectation so I can at least watch a few scalpers get fucked.

>>75977120
How long do you think before they try to fill up the seats with random people outside

>>75983838

It may have help if they didn't host it in Singapore, which is about the most expensive place to live on this planet.

>>75984108
>idol event
But Nijisanji isn't an idol company!

>>75984108
>Idol
Nijisisters beg to differ

>>75984666
>they're not obligated to sing and dance
Tell that Mayuyu

>>75984666
That's just saying they'll still do worse tha mediocre concerts for the grift but won't even bother to practice for them.

>>75981996
It's not half a mile, it's like a block over. It's the same alley all the music venues right near AX are at, it's where the special concerts usually are. It's like maybe an 8 minute walk.

>chronoir part

man. we are going to have a big party to laughing chronoir fag this time

>>75984814
>8 minute walk
>in fucking Burgerlandia
Just write the concert as failure already

>>75982534
I know I'm just gonna get called a retard but is there a way to fix sound for webms on mobile?

>>75977120
maybe the riku might force the staff to buy tickets too

>>75985069
>implying Riku has more than 5 staff on hand for this event

>>75983214
They booked the show months ago, before the brechdurchfall hit the fan, probably before Selen's MV was privated. Niji EN was still the second most popular EN vtuber group when AX made the deal for the show, and it's far too late for AX to unilaterally break the contract without incurring a massive penalty.

For AX to cancel the show without paying a penalty, Niji would have to breach the contract. Niji would have to do something incredibly stupid first, but Doki's mere presence at the show will be enough to provoke Niji into making an unforced, contract-breaching error.

>>75982290
That's plenty. Just imagine all the clean, unused earbuds she could buy.

>>75982290
>She couldn't even make enough money to get a orchestra seat for her own show.

>>75985914
Like 3 max

>>75981836
>ax is giving out free tickets for the niji concert
>buncha holo, phase, idol, vshojo and indie fans take free tickets going "yeeeaahhh I'll go.."
>none of them show up and the concert is startingly empty

>>75979871
Quick, someone create a cloning machine and have Fulgur use it!

>>75984832
/vt/ has a chronoir fag?

I hope this is the beginning of western vtubers being removed from conventions. It was neat when it was new and useful to have remotes during the popular illness times. I'd like it to get back to just anime and manga relevance though.

>>75987957
>western vtubers being removed from conventions
No, only Nijisanji.

>>75977920

It's like a sitcom at this point. Nijisisters and Kurosanji deserve each other so much rumaoooooo.

>>75984278
I wouldn't be surprised if AX just randomly get homeless bums in DTLA that don't know what are Vtubers, anime, and don't speak English to fill seats.

If they wanted con-goers that are not into Vtubers, don't set the price at $50. $25 would have been a good start.

AX has a terrible track record of hosting concerts at the Nokia/Microsoft/Peacock Theater. Only 3 concerts they sponsored I believe had sold out the venue.

>>75984832
Which poor sap reserved a seat in the far back left?

>>75977120
I wonder what the hell they were thinking, showcasing the seating maps like this. I think this the very first vtuber concerts I saw doing this.

>>75982356
If some literal who band pulled you off the street and asked you for $300 (more than pretty much any normal concert), are you telling me you're seriously considering it? Because that would not be a positive testament to sisters' intelligence levels.

>>75990019
Okay, at the risk of sounding like NDF, Dreamhack concert also showed seating map pretty much like this too

>>75982534
The fucking screen tearing man...

>>75990019
It'd be hilarious if it was a deliberate thing done to shove it in nijis faces without breaking the rules. Maybe someone in charge of AX didn't want Niji there but couldn't break the contract they signed forever ago

>>75977289
Niji males were top of the food chain, now they're at the bottom of the barrel. And the worst part is they got beaten by homostars nowadays. It's not looking good for you sis

>>75990383
Man, if someone told me that fucking homostars EN would beat Luxiem, FUCKING LUXIEM, two years ago I would've seriously questioned their sanity.

>>75990484
To be fair, such a phrase 2 years ago would've implied that the homostars inclined massively, not that luxiem fell to 3view status.

>>75990484
vox can't carry no more how sad

>>75990605
Unironically, I would've believed that homostars struck gold than luxiem falling off.

>>75977120
why are they renting such a big of a place for their negligible fans
this big ass place is just a excuse to make your ticket more expense

>>75981525
They use a math system called AnyMath.
It's the same one where you reach sub milestones in reverse, like Finana and Petra reaching 500k soon.

>>75985011
retard

>>75977120
They couldn't sell out the Novo based on what was sold so far.

They cant even sold out rhapsody and impulse.
what is riku thinking? is he stupid?

>>75977120
That's not bad
>grey sits are the one taken
Oh... I thought that green ones were taken...

>>75977120
Chill, Holofags. It's only the first day. The concert is happening in July, for goodness sake. There are more than a month left

>>75986369
That's 3 more than Niji could buy.

>>75993265
>There are more than a month left
But are all their base are belong to us?

>>75977120
I am going to give you an honest review based on marketing and data analysis of the current buyer behavior (because I had time and find this interesting enough):
>Initial Sales (Within 24 Hours): 10-20% of total seats sold.
>Right now sales are around: 13%
>Mid-Sales Period: Usually increase to 30-50% range of total seats sold.
>Last-Minute/Day of Event Sales: Should reach 40-60% range of total seats sold.
Honestly speaking, if the buyers follow that behavior, it might reach 50%, but I will check the behavior in a month or so to recalibrate the math.

>>75993265
what happened to rhapsody again?

>>75993708
The male part sold well. The female part unfortunately didn't but that part started around late noon so it's understandable that people weren't able to make it.

>>75993665
What concerts patterns did you use as a basis to weigh this? I'm not going to imply I believe it'll ever sell out since my spitball guess is a very generous at most 50% too, but acting like you've got something behind that guess is peak Redditor behaviour.

>>75993894
>sold well
>empty chair

yeah sure

>>75993665
You're thinking of a sports event, but this is a vtuber event. Realistically everyone who oshis them buys it immediately. I doubt it will sell very much more. Perhaps if they promote it hard enough, but it's definitely not selling out.
The thing is this branch mostly consists of 3-view streamers. They can hardly reach 4k on any stream, much less selling 4k tickets for a concert

>>75993894
>The male part sold well.
They sold <50% of seats, that's not "well"

This event is in 2 days and 3 of luxiem still not sold out yet.
why you abandoned them nijisisters?

>>75993913
Ahaha, I work in marketing and statistics as part of my job. I simply looked up the numbers for acts of slight to moderate popularity within a niche and how their concerts/performances tend to sell. I'm not going to claim I'm an expert, but I'm also not approaching this with any significant bias. It caught my attention how people were comparing HoloEN's concert because of how quickly it sold out, so I decided to do some analysis.

>>75979204
everyone knows nijien is a small indie company, one that is below the likes of vshojo and phase connect

>>75994121
I can tell you work in statistics because you cleanly evaded the question, but fortunately for you I'm not your co-worker in the sense that I can and am currently calling you a complete total faggot for doing that... but also admitting to you I don't care too deeply about how you weighed it because anyone with half a brain could tell you the concert will be a flop in one way or another.

>>75993995
Truth to be told, I said it might reach 50% based on the numbers, but I personally expect it to be in the 30-40% range because to reach 50% it will depend heavily on AnyColor's push within the mid-sales period.

>>75977120
Holo meet taipei
Ticket sale start - April 27
Event - May 11
Fuckin 15 days to purchase ticket.

THIS ONE IS OPEN FOR 2 MONTHS?! LEMAO
You would really gauge the confidence of producers of this event? ahahaha

>>75994239
no refunds allowed so they can cancel the concert anytime during these 2 months

>>75990692
Wost part is that homossupershart are actually performing worst than ever, but niji just managed to drop lower than that....
And people were saying "there are a market for male Vtuber" they look so stupid nowoday.

>>75994210
LMAO Calm down. You know that for a performance, the promoter usually needs 60% to call it a success or break even. So by saying 50% (as kindly as numbers can be) it would be a loss for AnyColor. Conclusion: You are not wrong with calling that a flop.

Did you Holoturds forget that online streaming tickets are being sold and they will mostly profit from that?

>>75994118
Holy grim

>>75994334
>Tazumi makes a fake concert
>cost: 0
>profit: probably like 50k idk i'm not looking up the ticket prices lol
>Tazumi uses this as proof to stockholders he is Money Jesus and can riterally print money
Hustle or scam? I say hustle.

>>75994455
That would still mean that their target audience is no longer the western side of the world, and they should stay in SEA.

>>75994371
Get that numberrot checked anon, homoEN pulling 1-2k is still good especially given that normies associate hololive with girls.
Imagine if people look at nijiEN girls as an example and concludes that there is no market for female vtuber, that's how dumb you dound.

>>75994455
that doesnt explain -40% yoy nijien revenue lol

>>75994526
Too late, Q4 is done deal.

>>75994371
There is. Retards just think male vtubers should be idols or idol-like when they could just be something else instead

>>75994455
Lmao, why are you confident that those who replied thanking for streaming tix are gonna purchase one?

Those are pagpag sisters! they just happy theres "digital" version of the event, and will just leech on watching on a pirated one

>aren’t even finished selling yet
Can you guys at least wait to see the result’s before shitposting?

>>75994239
That's in line with many other conventions, for example AFA ID which opened ticket sales way before they even announced their stage concert guests (Kobo was one of them and was announced a month before event day)

>>75994334
more like incase any of them decides to graduate before then

Since it's being streamed, any chances it will be torrented and be ready by the next day for dowload?

>>75994649
>Rival company sold out within 2 hours
>"Nooo you guys should wait until the day to see the results"
Man, nijien is pathetic.

>>75994683
What the sisters have been doing is posting free downloads, but then taking them down after the first 1000 downloads.
They also password protect them, so unless you hang out in nenmen thread you won't know the password for it

>>75994683
Check nyaa

>>75994596
Damn is it actually? Time sure flies, can't wait to see that shitshow.
>>75994683
Yes but also why would you even want to watch it in the first place? The only arguably good people there are Petra and Rosemi and if it's anything like the last concert they'd be lucky to have a combined 10 minutes between them.

>>75994649
you wish nijikeks

>>75994649
>2 months to purchase Versus Sold-out the first hour
yeah nah, this event is DOA

>>75994739
Yeah, you should typically wait to see how much something sells before judging the sales, crazy I know.

>>75994455
>Did you nijiturds forget that sister are virtue signaling retards who bitch on twitter without actually watching and spending money?
ftfy sister

>>75994786
>Damn is it actually?
yeah, it is from february-april
that's why ARlive was rushed to april

>>75994866
>What is market sentiment

>>75994739
>Rival company
In NijiEN’s current form, their rivals are Phase or JewCorp, not Hololive or VShojo

>>75994455
No need to rent stupid ass expensive concert hall if streaming's the profit, sister

>>75994866
So what's your prediction? No pussyfooting, give us a flat percentage.

>>75994683
Thats most likely pagpag sisters would do.. even them wont have money to buy tickets, and just watch them leaked on discord or something, lmao

>>75994455
>SEA being able to afford American priced tickets
heh

>>75994898
>NijiEN
But Chronoir ticket sale doesn't fare better

>>75994906
Honestly don’t know, maybe a bit over 50%? I’m not expecting it to sell that well, but I don’t know why people /here/ can’t even wait for something worth shitposting about, make fun of them when they inevitably miss the mark.

>>75995114
>I’m not expecting it to sell that well
>but you all should stop expecting it not to sell that well either
Kyle, it's a retard!

>>75995166
>what is reading comprehension?

>>75994866
>Tell me that you havent purchased a concert ticket without telling me.
You arguing here, but it seems you yourself havent purchase a ticket yet, lmao

>>75994906
>>75993665
>>75994210

>>75995114
Why wait when you can make fun of them NOW?
What kind of anon are you to pass off the opportunity to make fun of kurosanji? Are you doxxsister?

>>75995183
>complain about judging sales before the sales end in >>75994866
>proceeds to immediately judge sales (50%+) with a number technically higher than most of the threads predictions (50%~ or lower)
You can't fit in sister.

>>75995114
uhm, cause we are not stupid and not do mental gymnastics?
we see GRIM when we see one

>>75995206
Why would I buy tickets to go see a bunch of chuubas I don’t watch?

>>75995114
Retard you're literally the person who started complaining that people were shitting on projected sales, why are you actually giving your own projected amount when that's the thing you're complaining about in the first place?

>>75981794
They are trying to scam their investors by claiming NijiEN held a concert in a 7k seating venue
The livers aren't the actual product, the stock price is
It's all just a ploy to pump their numbers up in preparation for the earnings report since Roku isn't interested in running an actual business

>>75995336
Q4's over, what earning report could he be pumping up? Q1? Because if he is I'd praise him for trying to pump up a stock that he's going to sell and take the golden parachute out of before that quarters up, most poompers and doompers don't do that.

>>75995336
They are including Chronoir to sell online tickets, then count all those tickets as revenue for EN.
That way they can pretend EN's revenue is super high

>>75979019
>(I don't care)
Yes, that's the precisely problem, Nijifans don't care about the concert and aren't buying tickets

>>75995333
I replied to someone asking me a question you dumb faggot, read the thread.

>>75995515
You know we can see the reply chain right sister?
This ain't nyfco

>>75995336
And yet, those dumb sisters will still fall for these stupid cash grabs, lmao
>y'all, we are so back EN
no, you are being scammed, and still turning a blind eye

>>75986389
>not going in for free to take a picture of the empty seats then leaving

>>75995565
>You know we can see the reply chain right sister?
I can read the reply chain, I’m not certain you’re capable of it at this point

>>75984278
it'll be day of. in the past AX used to give away concert tickets that they had leftover. like, they had people walking around the halls giving out physical tickets. 2010 concert tickets were $30 a pop. They still couldn't get people's asses in there.

>>75989581
weebs are really cheap and don't buy concert tickets, which is weird if you think about it because they will spend $200 on some fig in the exhibit hall to some scalper booth.

>>75994121
with anime conventions they have to compete with other events ongoing at the same time. quick sell outs are good and show that there is demand. selling a ticket locks someone in because now they have money in the game. right now the niji concerts have the least announced competition they will ever get and they want people to commit. the more things get announced, the more other things compete for the same time slots. i've never seen anything else on an anime expo saturday sell this slowly. for something on sunday (day four, when people are packing up and/or leaving) the speed would be fine. saturday, being the first day of the weekend for the con, is supposed to be the day with the biggest events.

>>75977120
but which date, cuz there is 2
you did know that, right?

>>75995670
Let me get this straight, you're furious that people are doomposting ticket sale >>75994649
>>75994866
But when asked about your own prediction, the best you can give them is over 50% >>75995114
which is STILL doomposting
What's your disability sister? Or are you just arguing for arguments' sake?

>>75995751
OP literally said "the men's part", which is Day 2.

Do they do a 30 minute free viewing like Hololive does?

>>75995730
>>75994121 (me)
Hmm, that convinces me that it will be under 50% then. I do not think they would break even, at least in the physical side of the concert.

Instead of defending your company, why don't you buy tickets ?

>>75995870
roru
rumao

>>75995801
no is not
each day has 2 sections and ends with the jp homos
this thread seems like an obvious falseflag waiting for a """grudge"""post

>>75995786
Doomposting and shitposting aren’t the same thing, nobody here is bothered by Niji sales flopping, all I suggested was to actually wait for them to flop before losing your mind.

>>75996021
So you're seething that faggots /itt/ are shitting on your beloved organs? Did I get that right sister?

>>75995875
depending on what the contract between ax and niji is, it's possible ax might be footing a good chunk of the bill for the venue if not the whole thing. that will be niji's saving grace. if a contract was signed last year then losing pomu, firing selen, and then all the other dumb shit that killed their goodwill in the community and shed a lot of fans will not have affected those negotiations. in 2023 people still thought niji was a decent company in second place.

>>75996082
I’m not gonna reiterate the same shit over and over for you, not my problem if english isn’t your strong suit

>>75996212
Post tits.

>>75995894
>each day has 2 sections and ends with the jp homos
Day 1 Group 1 is EN girls
Day 1 Group 2 is EN boys
Day 2 is jp homos (Chronoir)
OP said "NijiEN" and "men's part", so they mean LuxNoc
Nobody here cares about Chronoir

>>75996193
Who knows? Unless AX was the one who invited AnyColor, I would agree with the possibility. However, AnyColor still needs to achieve 60-70% of sales for the venue if they want another chance with AX, considering all the negative press they carry.

>>75996330
Chronoir is having a similar % (15% in their case) for the numbers I ran earlier. Doesn't look that good, either.

Is AX or anycolor the one that’s going to get hurt most from the flop sales?

>>75983838
Singapore is hololive territory

>>75996475
Riku would be in for a rude awakening when he finally sees that nijisanji doesn't have any significant beach head in the west and his golden boys fails to sell tickets.
Seriously, why did he goes out of the way to separate EN and JP? Didn't he learn anything from Cover?

>>75990019
Pretty much any online ordering platform shows seats like this these days, even regular movie theatres do it

>>75996502
AX would be hurt more financially, Anycolor’s remaining reputation would take the bigger hit if they actually do flop.

>>75996502
Anycolor for sure.
If this bombs, so does the illusion of international demographic that Riku touted during investor meeting

>>75996539
The world is Hololive territory

>>75996502
Both. But AnyColor would get a reputational hit, on top of it.

>>75996502
They'll both hurt but in different ways. AX hurts financially because they won't recoup the costs of bringing Niji in . Niji hurts because of the public humiliation and won't be able to charge top dollar from con organizers on top of Anycolor now being known as an absolute pain to work with. One is more immediate one is medium-long term. Both are fucked if this flops

>>75996429
eh, ax has a checkered history and doesn't give a fuck what people think. if niji wants to provide cheap virtual guests or buy booth space they'll still take them. they just won't have them do something big like use the peacock anymore, but then again, most acts don't repeat at conventions in short time periods. i've seen enough dumb shit going on at ax.

>>75996502
if it flops it'll just be one more shitty ax concert (they've had a few; whoever proposes and selects guests is kind of a retard) but a flop will reinforce all the badmouthing about niji. ax prints money with 110k people at 140 a piece.

>>75996575
separating them is fine, but the dumb shits nuked en so hard and it's only may.

>>75996647
Except West Taiwan, but who the fuck wants that one anyway?

>>75996687
AX has a massive war chest and could definitely take the hit.
Meanwhile Anycolor is one yab away from branch merger/closure.

>>75996727
Don;t let them fool you, west taiwan longs for Hololive, they're just being difficult about it.

seems to me is doing fine
whole sections sold out of 7k
for a 2 days show
https://www.showclix.com/event/ax24-nijisanji-en-summer-jam-grp01-sc24-t06/pyos
https://www.showclix.com/event/ax24-nijisanji-en-summer-jam-grp02-sc24-t07/pyos
https://www.showclix.com/event/ax24-www_concert_in_la-sc24-t08/pyos

>>75996774
yup, ax losing money on this concert will do absolutely nothing to the organization itself. ax had 20 mil in assets for 2022, up from 8 mil after 2021. 2023 numbers won't be published for a while but expect them to be very healthy.

>>75996687
>Both are fucked if this flops
Eh, I think AX will be fine. They make enough money from the entire convention itself that the NijiEN concerts flopping would only end up being an annoyance to them. It's not going to break their entire business.

>>75996777
Dang, they've already sold out the balconies and mezzanine. Pretty incredible. Weird that those moved first though

>>75996687
AX is probably already paid upfront for this by anycolor, they would be fools to tie their compensation to ticket sales when the money they pay to the venue remains the same no matter how well it sells

>>75996777
The girls are so fucked...

>>75996777
LMAO. Okay just gonna assume you are not shitposting because sisters are that much in denial... Only first floor orchestra and pit are on sale, that's 4,430 seats.

>>75996777
Those were never open to begin with

>>75995894
Day 2 is only the JP homos and the sales look exactly the same >>75984832
So what's your point?

>>75996811
oh and for 2020 they lost 5 mil by not having a convention at all and still had net positive assets. like they had zero income for the year and were still fine.

>>75996828
those were never open for sale. this is a half venue configuration. they will only open up the upper levels if the lower levels sell out.

>>75996777
>whole sections
Anon... the seats on the second level weren't being sold to begin with. It's only the first level that's being sold.

>>75995648
Don't do it anon, you gonna get nijicurse.

>>75996853
>>75996859
now this is how you grudgepost, kill ALL the copes first

Will there be a meet and greet? My ear still feels funny after the last one.

>>75996839
That's what I'm saying. They lose out if they don't sell out. There's venue hire, booking fee for niji, staff, insurance, booking commisions from ticket agents, marketing etc expenses. There's a margin for everything. It's the future cons that Niji won't be able charge future booking fees at top dollar because Niji just doesn't have the pull anymore in the west.

ax also ran at a deficit for a few years. literally going into the negatives can't kill the con, but as mentioned, they have way more money coming in than they even spend.

>>75997034
>>75997006
AX is retarded if they didn't charge Niji upfront so AX doesn't lose money regardless of ticket sales. Make Niji bear the financial risk, it's their job to bring vtubers that get asses in seats.

>>75985394
Has Anycolor done anything to Doki since the Black Stream?
They've had plenty of opportunity to do something stupid involving Doki. I think they're memory holing her out of self preservation. Not like that shit won't stop them fucking itself regardless, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

>>75997073
AX is retarded, though.

>>75997084
The only smart thing they have done ever since.

>>75996777
Pls don't delete this.

>>75997006
Let's get into hypothetical shall we?
If these concerts sell out, AX would pocket about 1 million dollar. Maybe 1.3 with passes.
That is unironically a negligible amount for AX.

>>75997107
laugh i see you too have been going to ax enough to see dumb shit. i can totally see some idiot at ax giving niji favorable terms because they saw hololive sell out fast and got fomo about it, and thought we'll get niji, they'll sell out, we have to sign them

>>75997183
>laugh
speech- to-text chama...

>>75996777
Good bait.

>>75996777
>ChroNoiR doing the best
Imagine getting upstaged by the JP act when you're the kaigai branch. Grim.

>>75996777
Stop with the cherry picked screenshots and show me the ticket sales.

>>75997332
Here's the thing, the Chronour ticket is 40-65 bucks, meanwhile nijien is 60-80.
If you're a normie, you know which one you'll get if you're interested in checking it out.

>>75997406
So they made the jp organs more accessible? Looks like en is going to close down soon

>>75997473
They need to make EN appear to be doing well
like "LOOK, EN'S REVENUES WAS HIGHER THAN CHRONOIR IN THE WEST, THE BRANCH IS TOTALLY NOT DYING!!!"

>>75997473
Right?
Way to upstage your EN branch on their hometurf roru Riku.
What a business genius

>>75977120
Why do the shitty seats at the very edge cost $50 as well? You just know the screen they'll put the vtubers on will look all kinds of fucked from there.

>>75996777
buying one of the seats that will hopefully sandwich me between a pair of sweaty nijisisters who will be in heat after the show. what are the odds of me being one of the few guys there?

>>75996777
Holy fucking shit. It's actually over.

>>75997647
>westoid nijisisters
Anon...
I'd understand if it's Virtual Rhapsody

>>75997406
is the chronoir one just a screening?

Honestly, even if I wanted to support NijiEN, I wouldn't want to be seen going to the concert.

>>75997691
It says "concert" on the ticketing website.

>>75997401
how are those cherry picked they're literally the state of the venue right now lol. if you want you could add all the dots?

>>75997732
It's a shitpost, there is a sister who has been asking to see the ticket sales of the Virtual Rhapsody concert for the past couple of days

>>75997684
even the american nijisisters have okay enough odds of being decently cute asian girls to take the chance, i've seen the nijiselfie tags and con meetup photos, especially in LA for a weeb event. I'll even be fine with a western SEA girl if she's not freakishly ugly.

>>75997730
damn, that's rough. 6am jst so they'll probably have to get up even earlier all so they can pander to americans.

>>75997789
Godspeed groomer anon.
We'll be awaiting your field report

>Fuck a nijisis
>Pic related
I'm not that desperate.

>>75997834
Slutty women are the best though, especially for con offpako

>>75997834
>can literally choke them with your cock and they love it
What’s the problem, are you gay?

>>75997732
600 something out of 4,430 tickets sold so far for both.

>>75997885
Spoken like a true virgin. Enjoy getting STDs when you lose your virginity.

>>75994551
Checked the numbers and i stand my ground. They keep hitting all time low consistently. They just are desesperatly spamming raids to keep appearance, don't get fooled.

>>75997834
otaku girls who are secretly massively horny freaks are hot though. why would you not want this?

>>75997918
Sharing STD’s is the purest form of love

>>75997918
Get some rubbers on you dumb fuck

>>75977120
now post connect the world 2 ticket's :^)

>>75996193
>in 2023 people still thought niji was a decent company in second place.
Their panel/mini-concert last year filled up the Diamond ballroom at the JW Marriott. It was also the consolation prize for those who couldn't score Hololive tickets. I'm sure they negotiated a concert at the Peacock Theater last year, but no one knew the dumpster fire that would unfold.

>>75997980
Are you also going to tell her you refuse to make out and only want condom intercourse (no bj) because you don’t trust her whore ass? What a chad you are.

>>75981200
Thank you for the laugh sister

>>75997084
It doesn't matter, the black stream is just that unbelievable and has so much staying power that they are still losing subs three months later. It's gotten to the point where just ignoring it doesn't work for them

>>75998075
Give me a break, I'm a quick shooter if I don't put on extra thick rubber.

>>75997406
If you're a normie you wouldn't be dropping 40-60 dollars just to "check things out". The tickets need to be like 8-15 dollars for that to happen

>>75986389
>start giving out tickets out of desperation
>the only people who would actually show up are hardcore antis willing to boo for the entire concert
This has the potential to be an all-time trainwreck

>>75998270
PLEASE THAT WOULD BE SO FUNNY

>>75998270
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kpb8eu1pEY
>Elira, are they... booing me?
>Uh, no, they are saying... boo-ox! boo-ox!
>Are you saying boo or boo-ox?
>BOOOOOOOOOOO
>I was saying boo-ox...

>>75997789
he ****might**** get cosplayers...
godspeed anon
post pics

>>75997401
Rent free