/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75845587
It would if they stopped having yabs.

>>75845587
do a public apology to doki and maybe it will stop

Hololive's lack of 3d holoen concert deflection thread

>>75845587
Nope.

Until we actually see a calculable decline in revenue, this doesn't actually mean much.

>>75845587
Nope it won't? I mean it's litteraly no gain plus the usual removal, so net negative. Niji EN is cooked.
Plus always more drama so more people leave, and more drama plus it's pretty obvious the yach is sinking so rat are leaving the yach but not without dropping the grivance they have before so more drama.

>>75845963
They already had one

>>75845991
Wouldn't it be funny if Elira ends up with less subs than Selen?

>>75846504
Anon, I'm about to blow your mind

>>75846302
I don't think you understand quite how badly you have to fuck up in order to lose subscribers as fast as these people have.
Tsukumo sana graduated in 2022.
She's lost 3k subs since graduation.

>>75846504
Selen passed her in subs twice and is about to pass her in her peak before the sliding as well

>>75845587
I pray for total Nijicollapse. And that means all of them

>>75846732
Anon... Elira's peak was at 600k...
Doki's above 700k. The only dragon left to pass is herself...

>>75847208
i swear elira was like 770k but in retrospect that sounds too high when im typing it out like that
i miss her jrpg streams but like all tumors she had to be cut out. guess its up to the chinese on bilibili to like her
WAIT thinking about it again made me remember that the chinese also liked selen too way more

>>75845963
HoloEN already had one, in a theatre, full of real audience, and no cut contents unlike your pathetic 3D NijiEN AR Live with no actual audience and 2D Virtual Rhapsody with half empty venue.

>>75847485
That was Selen.
Selen peaked around 805k. Elira was never close to her. The only girls who ever passed her was Nina early on, and Pomu near the end.

>>75845587
This guy is a literal sexpest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6jIlcKEMg0

>>75845991
as much as I dislike Ike, he clearly was uncomfortable during the stream

>>75845587
Will Luca drop below a million?! ZAMN

No >>75845587, no I don't think it will. It would require them to do a public apology taking everything back and knowing Japanese culture, that will NEVER happen. It's all about pride.

>>75847606
Fucking no, he appeared on the stream, he's as guilty as Rosemi and Millie and anybody else who retweeted Elira's black stream tweet. It doesn't matter if you're 'uncomfortable' or not, if you toe the party line then you share the same fate as those who were actually guilty of the bullying.

And don't try to say that 'well Nijisanji MADE them retweet it/made Ike appear on that stream' because Scarle didn't retweet shit or attach herself publically to the controversy and nothing happened to her. He could have refused to retweet, he could have said nothing, but he chose not to and now he's getting what he deserves

>>75845587
I would be very interested in knowing how the YT system works in losing subs.
Cause at this point, it seems more like Elira is not losing subs for streaming but that streaming updates the count as she loses sub when offline.

>>75847606
He's basically 1:1 with Meloco in the zaion slander videos, too. They just picked him to act neutral to help contrast against Elira/Kotoka's emotional appeal and Vox/Hex's obvious dehumanization and slander.

It's the exact same fucking playbook. Ike's just as guilty as the other two fuckwits.

>>75845587

>>75847909
It's very clear the reason Ike was in that video-- it was to get his legion of bitchmade fangirls to start screaming and crying and acting out to show Nijisanji 'support'

They're also the ones you see on the doxxsite and on Twitter seething whenever Falseeye posts about Nijisanji

>>75847790
Scarle being her usual dumbass self not retweeting it is more likely than her being some beacon of resistance.
Also explains why she was gone for a week or two cause she got punished for not sharing it.

>>75846302
Check >>75844824

Niji is getting pummeled by small corpos in supas

>>75848212
seems like they don't have enough money to bot the supas

>>75848238
Why would you bot supas? You are just giving money to YouTube what is there to gain?

>>75845587
yes, but ike's subs is still 2.5x higher than pippa and shibuya hal also lost 1k subs this past week. but yeah, that goes against your biased anti nijisanji narrative.

>>75846302
You mean like how "lazulight" pulled about $120 in supas for their third anni stream yesterday while mint pulled about six times that?
The decline in revenue is even harsher than the sub loss rate.

>>75848238
>has to beg not to skip ads on youtube
now thats a certified bruh moment if ive ever seen one

>>75847485
lol lmao
elira was never that big
she's a fucking boring jrpg streamer not a korone or nui

>>75848355
that's just the usual retarded kpop fan tier bullshittery and how they inflate shit

>>75847485
Nah, Elira peaked at around 608,000 subs.

>>75848420
I'd say the only thing she is good at is her avatar for porn

>>75848332
What use are dead subs if they don't watch videos or send superchats?

These are real, active subs that are gone. Viewership has tanked, donations have tanked, superchats have tanked, and nobody's showing up to your shitty little "concerst"

>>75848511
yes they are a kpop fan
they do it for 24h holy shet

something fishy is up with this, it's literally not possible for that many people to still have not picked a side and ditched them by now. like you stayed subbed the last 6 months, the fuck made you wait until now? is it people that made tons of alt bots just to mass unsub later or something?

>>75845927
They'd rather immolate themselves than do that

>>75845587
Not for another month at the absolute minimum.
Once the Q4 report is published, roughly a third of them will stop needing to worry that their business accounts are losing subscribers, and can instead focus on their personal accounts.

my fave posts!
TOTAL NIJIEN DEATH!
CRUCIFY THE BULLIES!

>>75848666
You can be sure Nijisisters would create countless alt accounts to artificially boost subs.

>>75848666
Lots of people have no fucking clue what's going on because they don't pay attention to elira. Every time she streams, people notice they're still subbed and get the blackstream or vids talking about it in the related.
Otherwise, I heard a theory that the subs all dropped so fucking fast that the real sub number is far lower than what's listed and it's slowly catching up.

>>75845927
at this point could make it worse and cost them the audience that's been siding with them while not being enough to satisfy those leaving

>>75846302
Lmao, the usual mental gymnastics.
Do you know what these means? they now cant showcase "growth" to their report
>revenue
Most of them did not stream for 2 months
no one showed up to their concert
meet&greets not sold-out

yeah, cope sister

>>75848806
Its currently at 546,803. Somehow the YT sub count only updates when she starts or ends streams.
Somehow, it never goes down when she is offline and only she streaming.
Odd that.

>>75848238
>>75848612
jesas, is there any record of this people doing the same to other songs or videos? how much energy was wasted in trying to play the algo in favor of some random asian ecelebs?

>>75848920
Pretty sure youtube no longer shows the exact number of subscribers to anyone besides the channel owner and they just round it to the closest significant figure

>>75849299
They made this exact same guide for another MV, but I don't have the screenshot.
It is actually a pretty common tactic in the kpop fandom to get their favorite fuckboy band to the top of the charts

>>75849299
Yes, I had a similar graphic for vox's "movie" and some other thing luca did. They do this regularly.

>>75848034
cope, already forgotten how much you were seething about her hearting a kurosanji comment?

>>75848578
>ike last 5 vods : 105k views.
>phase girl 1 : 80k views.
>phase girl 2 : 27.6k views.
ike still has 17k+ vod views after 1 day has passed, while phase only has tenma and pippa capable of hitting that in a day. its not like his viewership is completely rotten, like lia or lumi who cant hit 10k on vods views in a regular basis.

>>75845656
How can they stop having yabs when yabs are the main content?

>>75849528
>including a 10m aborted stream she had to reset to bring the numbers down
are you completely retarded or just that dishonest?

>>75846302
Seems pretty declining to me

>>75848332
Yeah because Hal losing 1k is on par with Nijisanji losing 71k

>>75849773
If nijiniggers are capable of not being dishonest they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>75848666
>check sub feed
>see live or vod
>oh wtf I'm still subbed to that cunt? guess I'll unsub now
Given most vtuber subs are essentially dead subs, this should keep going for a while still

>>75848666
Well satan, there was a rrat that stated a fact that youtube is currently culling bots accounts across its entire network and he suggested there's high possibility that nijiEN have been using bots subs from the very start...

>>75845587
In my opinion it was a form of stopping

>>75848294
its for mindbreaking the numberfags

>>75849528
>they're taking phase connect seriously now
holy GRIM
What happened to "Council flopped?" Weren't you so happy about how Luxiem was mogging council not long ago?

>>75849955
The fun part is that they are dropping faster than graduated vtuber channels, so even if you are generous and saying that it's just youtube banning bots, then it means that nijiEN has a significantly larger number of bot subs than other vtubers

>>75849775
>$127 made between the two of them over 2 collab streams on the same day
i long past being mad ages ago and now im just sad looking at this

>>75848524
Honestly, that's probably why each new outfit kept showing more and more tits. The first collab I saw her in with Scarra, sykunno, and some other chick, she just muted herself and only talked to chat about how she's freaking it and doesn't know what to say to the others. Like bitch say anything. Your job is to entertain.

>>75849461
>>75849427
What's the end goal? Oh, you spent a whole weekend dead ass watching my video over and over on multiple devices! Thanks! (Security get me the fuck out of here)

>>75845963
We just had Australia and Taiwan? Don't forget, holo isn't segregated like niji. All branches perform at fes. Your"concerts" are over priced karaokes with underfunded meet and greets with a chance to contact an ear infection.

I'd really like to know whos innocent, after all this time it feels like nothing new has come up.

>>75849773
ok, now is it fair enough ? "scuffed" vox stream btw, yet it still beats pippa, hal and tenma.
>>75850106
holocouncil has 12m+ views gained in a month while "dead" luxiem has 4.2m. i dont care, we are not competing with holo en anymore. its neo porte and phase.

>>75850944
Gonna be honest, I don't want NijiEN competing with ANYONE anymore. They've proven themselves so fucking incompetent that they don't deserve to exist and continue ruining the western vtubing landscape. The entire fucking branch, and hell probably even the main company has to go.
>>75850869
At this point it doesn't matter anymore. As long as they're branded with the stench of that black company, they're not worth supporting.

>>75849955
>>75850220
Huh, I've noticed last week sisters were claiming you could bot subs along with the usual views. Subs to me sounded odd. Perhaps they were just projecting and ratted themselves out.

>>75850944
>Loses ccv war
>Shifts goalpost to botted views by kpop faggots

>>75849352
>Pretty sure youtube no longer shows the exact number of subscribers to anyone besides the channel owner
You would be correct. I just went to check Elira's subs, and they only display in increments of 1000. Can't find any way to see the precise number.
I wonder why >>75848920 was so confident about her exact sub count, then. Is there some numbermonkey site I haven't heard of that shows a more accurate figure?

>>75851008
even if nijisanji en is dead for good, the livers reincarnations will make sure the nijification continues in western/en vtubing, like we see with donki shilling holostars and promoting the male x female collabs in her future events, the culture of nijisanji still runs deep in that turd's blood.

>>75851230
>his oshi is involved with said collabs
Couldn’t be me

>>75845587
Save da wose
Save da vivi
Save da catboy

>>75851352
+1

>#1 clipper's last post: January 18th
>The black video: February 13th
Yeah, she's radioactive lmao

>>75851230
I really don't care. This isn't a culture issue. This is a management and harassment issue. Nijisanji is the problem here that needs to be excised.

>>75851698
holy fuck pendora's box even stopped? grim

>>75848238
>>75848612
What the fuck

>>75851230
Male and female collabs were never the problem, unicorn. It was a combination of their own petty, vindictive behavior and shitty people like you in their fanbases.

>>75851708
what harassment ? selen was the one harassing the management by shoving her projects and "WHERE IS MY PERMS ?" into their face every two odd weeks.

>>75851911
yea, thats because it's supposed to be management's job, retard

>>75851911
Source and evidence next thread?

>>75851698
Well tbf, didn't she go on a long hiatus during and after the black screen. It's not like he's had any material to work with. That being said though, they probably would've made something for the anniversary and her return.

>>75851911
ikr, baka. Management should be sipping tea and banging girls on their yacht instead of doing managing these perms

>>75851911
>Management slacks off
>Talent tells them to get their shit together
>They don't
>Talent does it herself cause management aint doing their job
>Management: YOU CANT DO THAT! How dare you be productive!!

>>75851911
Hi Millle, 4 provinces over. I'll make you a single mother that you were meant to be

>>75851911
Yes, the perms. Management's job that they refused to do. The ONE fucking job they had since they clearly weren't actually managing her.
Not that it matters anymore since as soon as she left and found REAL managers to work with, she's been more successful and productive than ever.

>>75852017
just play the games that other livers are also allowed to play, or just spam apex until graduation. no need to be a bitch and tie a rope on your neck just because you cant do something without perms, thankfully her weight saved her life twice KEK.

>>75852407
Or, or, hear me out...
Just let her fucking be terminated quietly like she asked so she can make a clean break without your company getting exposed as a horrific fucking waste of oxygen.

Thank god THAT didn't happen because Nijisanji collapsing is a massive positive for the world.

>>75850944
>we're not competing with holo en anymore
KEK. So much for being the "only competition to hololive".

>>75851911
Management being told to do their fucking job!? Oh the horror...

>>75850742
As much as they like to pretend otherwise, they are bigger numberfags than anyone on this board.

>>75852476
it doesnt work like that when selen was still on a two years contract at the time of her termination, even chihiro still has to streams until her graduation date. if you want to go out quietly, you gotta do your job first. not by tying a rope on your neck, bitch around in your pl account, go stream apex as selen until the date. and then go indie, without causing your old friends any backlash that they dont deserve. the fact that it went the way it did is because selen is a malicious, sewer slide grifter who wants to take the whole branch down with her, the bitch still fails KEK.

>>75852978
Any "friend" willing to go along with that black stream isn't a friend.
The corporation fucked up and Selen isn't obligated to save their asses.
If they wanted to have a functional company and not have their reputation destroyed for being a black company then... maybe they shouldn't have been a black company? You're just sorry you got caught.

>>75852978
>old friends
you're a stupid cunt and you deserve the shitty life you lead

>>75845991
Damn Petra will be below 500k next week, and Finana will follow a week or two after.

>>75845963
I literally flew to the US for one. I risked my life by visiting Los Angeles.

>>75845587
>>75845991
fuck nijisanji and all that yada yada but does anyone actually know why its still decreasing? its been like 4 months now and the drama is dead and buried in the dirt by now
are people just now logging onto youtube for the first time in months or something

>>75853433
Finana was here a few days ago crying about how "don't let her reach 500k look I'm playing stellar blade"

>>75847921
I miss sighposting. Aster probably misses it too, I bet it was the most spotlight he has ever gotten

>>75851224
There are "live" subscriber count webstites that regularly poll the API for the rounded up subscriber count and interpolate, for example, if the API is reporting that a channel is losing 100 subscribers per hour the website just decreases the displayed subscriner count by 1 every 36 seconds until the next real count update where they just display that one and adjust the decrease rate for the next update

>>75853993
I don't. One of the worst instances of a forced meme i've ever seen. The "OH NO WHAT HAPPENED" is superior in every way.
I can't believe that i'm even saying this, but if Scarle goes full MeToo after getting out of that shit company, i'd completely support her. If you told that to me nine years ago, I would guffaw in your face, but here we are.

>>75853684
See >>75848806
>>75849892

>>75847921
If he went to Holostars, he'd have some Phase pussy right now.

>>75854493
I don't think faygon is as toxic and sex pest as sigh boy.
I could be wrong, but he has the least amount of outside collab in nijiEN, does he not?

>>75845587
imagine when luca hits 1M again
kek another reason to celebrate 1M subs again

>>75845991
Someone give me an eta on Elira dropping below 500k

>>75853684
More likely than not, it’s just YouTube purging inactive accounts, but they aren’t getting enough new subscribers to offset that.

>>75852978
do you end all your sentences in kek?

>>75851911
surely this is ironic right

>>75855525
YouTube doesn't purge inactive accounts this quickly. Sana lost a grand total of 3k people over two years

>>75855969 (me)
nvm I just saw >>75852978 and >>75852407 I didnt think "people" could be this stupid but holy fuck

>>75851911
How are you capable of breathing air with a brain like that?

>>75855283
At her current loss rate, about 5-6 months

>>75851966
>It's not like he's had any material to work with
Come on now, the return stream alone would have been more than enough to get out some clips

>>75851698
This stings. I hope that clipper is doing alright. What an awful mask off moment for everyone at NijiEN.

>>75852978
They can leave at any time, per Voxie's own mouth. They've made their bed and have consigned to die in it.

>>75845587
Niji as a company is dead andafter bobon's comments it's clear more graduations are immanent
Even niji's people sympathize with can't even beat a simulcast

>>75851911
>selen was the one harassing the management by shoving her projects and "WHERE IS MY PERMS ?" into their face every two odd weeks.
Getting perms for that particular project is the lowest of low bars and they failed to do this bare minimum even in a years worth of time.
In a good company these managers would have been fired and the company would apologize to Selen for their incompetence.

>>75858277
again, the "management" that were meant to do it were the clique and they didnt do it deliberately. It's not laziness or incompetence, it was done deliberately to harass her

>>75845587
Every time they go live it just reminds people to unfollow them.

>>75851966
A dedicated clipper would have scraped previous VODs and clip moments from there, if only to keep morale up and squeeze some juice out for content.

Ina, Ame and Gura have multiple dedicated clippers that do that and makes them not streaming a little more bearable. I know Ina is back to streaming and Ame is slowly ramping back up, but still.

If Elira's dedicated clipper can't do even that, then I worry how toxic she's actually become in terms of clipping potential.

>>75845656
They haven't ha yabs for a month and a half and it hasn't arrested their fall any, I don't think just not getting into drama is cutting it

>>75860045
Early on when I used to follow Elira, there was a whale called "EliraSavedMyLife," and him and Pendora's Box always stood out to me.
Seems like both accounts are inactive now...

>>75862189
and now she killed Selen

>>75848238
TURN OFF THAT PESKY ADBLOCK

>>75851352
Who is "the catboy" referring to?

>>75847909
I thought that was remarkable rewatching the Zaion stuff. They really did just recycle the script

Reminder that NijiEN lost the "all out war" btw.

>>75862189
>EliraSavedMyLife
Gee, talk about "I saved your life, now it belongs to me forevermore"

>>75848341
Did mint stream at the same time? Cause that would be hilarious.

>>75864399
Yes she did, her part 3 of Ghost Trick playthrough

>>75851911
>Expecting someone to do their job is harassment
Can sisters possibly be more pathetic

>>75848238
>>75849461
This practice is usually done because there are award shows and/or merits for K-Pop artists who have the most views/streams on their songs, doing this for Niji is weird and pointless, and to me, mostly disingenuous lol

>>75864872
don't they do this with Ike sometimes but on twitter to get him trending even though he didn't do or release anything?

>>75845587
If they want it to stop, they can just fucking ask.

>>75845587
>>75845991
Is this tens of thousands of people unsubbing or youtube pruning dead subs with no growth to keep up? Both?

>>75865122
they do be like that. if only they put half the effort watching streams instead of tweeting

>>75865122
Then this leaves a theory where if ever niji channels subscriber counts stop dropping (as the counting of all the people who genuinely don't like them anymore are gone) , the accounts that remain subscribed may very be just one sister subscribed multiple times on multiple accounts lol

>>75865643
It's people finding out they are still subbed every time they stream and fixing that issue.

>>75845587
It doesn't deserve to stop. TOTAL NIJINIGGER DEATH for what they have done

>>75845587
no

>>75845587
No.

>>75845587
No.

>>75856307
True, that's what I meant by the ending of my statement. Also I didn't watch it so it could've been boring. But I'm not a Clipper so I guess I wouldn't know anything about it.

how long until Aster hits 100k?

>>75864168
Alban maybe? I know he's pretty uncontroversial other then being blue homos friend

>>75851019
You can bot subs yes

>>75876660
Ahh, so it's a case of "I know it because I do it" then. That is way too much effort. No wonder sisters always call us out for doing the most ridiculous things because they probably do it. Like I have no time to make multiple accounts just to watch a music video. I've worked all day and I just wanna game with a chuuba in the background.

>>75850861
the Chinese taipei concert was not 3d

>>75849892
but how is it still thousands a day? she's been back streaming for weeks. the drip feed thing is the only reason that makes sense, there was a shit ton all at once and YT is just trickling them out slowly

>>75876872
1/2 still better than Millle tearing on a screen and biblically accurate petora. (Still would)

>>75848806
>Otherwise, I heard a theory that the subs all dropped so fucking fast that the real sub number is far lower than what's listed and it's slowly catching up.
I could buy that. Alternatively,
>>75848920
I could see that as being a case where there are a bunch of people that forgot they were subscribed to Elira since she's been inactive for so long, so when she has her occasional stream lately, those people unsub either because they were aware of the Selen drama and have no interest in Elira, or they just don't care about Elira anymore because she's been so inactive.

>>75865643
Can't be purely the latter. Inactive accounts like Sana don't drop nearly as quickly, and same for the dead niji accounts.
Sana's channel has only lost 3k subs total since her graduation in 2022, for example. Elira lost more than that just this week.

>>75847606
If he was uncomfortable he would've stayed silent. Instead he had to pipe up and basically say 'Don't forget I'm here too!'

>>75853955
I would believe this more if not for the Chinese slur. What made early Finana posts believable was the language being used and how it was written in her voice.

>>75845991
Why do i never see Meloco in any of these charts?

>>75845587
If its caused by the whole selen fiasco then it hardly seems fair, all details were never disclosed and pointing fingers months later won't solve anything.

>>75885840
She's in the JP branch silly

>>75886582
You're not kidding, lmao jesas

>>75885914
>hardly seems fair
It's perfectly fair. Nijisanji used the organs as meat shields to attack a suicidal person, and then refused to elaborate further. No one is willing to step forward to explain what the fuck happened, so the fans don't want to keep supporting a company so insanely evil.

>>75885914
In the absence of concrete information, all we can do is trust our instincts.
The talents were allegedly involved in the bullying that led to Selen's suicide attempts, and several of them have behaved in ways that suggest they're either not opposed to said bullying or directly participated in it (the black screen stream, Reimu's "an attempt... lmao" tweet, etc.).
We don't know who specifically is responsible or how deep the corruption goes, so the most sensible course of action is to simply treat all of them as guilty until proven innocent.

>>75847625
Do you think the office has to take down his plaque if he drops below 1mil?

>>75845963
Never gonna happen but it would be funny if it did

>>75887646
>his

Let's be fucking real Phase connect is now the number 2 (or 3 if you count vshojo) EN corpo.

>>75847625
You know it's gonna hurt watching that 1M tick back to 999K. Is there going to be a point at which they drop the mask and start openly begging for subs?

>>75846302
-60-80% in supas is rather bad

Chances Elira goes below 500k by the end of the year?

>>75845587
Will Riku have to send back the golden play button if Luca falls under 1M?

>>75845963
Wouldn't it be funny if Cover did an event during NijiEN's concert? Like with AR?

Gura could just do a karaoke.

>>75845587
Why stop it?

>>75849775
Jesas, I thought people were memeing, but it really is over for them, isn't it? Earning way below 100 bucks for a fricking anniversary stream really is terrible.
>tfw her last stream only earned her 4€
>tfw feesh had multiple recent streams with no supa earnings at all

>>75897909
>tfw her last stream only earned her 4€
That's a pre-stream room, the stream will be tomorrow. Elira has cumulatively earned about ~6k USD since return stream a month ago. But yes, unless Riku finds a way (or the will) to fix things they're on borrowed time.
>tfw feesh had multiple recent streams with no supa earnings at all
For some reason all but the first Stellar Blade streams are demonetized. Finana is doing a Stellar Blade stream right now and superchats are off. But again Nijisanji needs to do something to save these girls, just pretending it didn't happen doesn't seem to be working.

>>75864399
They streamed over Mints time slot. Anniversary was celebrated on the wrong fucking day. Still got mogged by ghost maido.

Once nijisanji loses rosemi they will have nothing

>>75898560
Schizos were right when they said Niji chose the worst path. The company didn't try to apologise and so they were already on the path to a merger. They called it 5 months ago. Dieng branch definitely means graduations in the truck loads by the end of the year.

The Black Stream was one of the worst ideas in the history of ideas. People were starting to move on until they pulled this pro gamer move.

>>75899234
Stupid thing is that there are still people willing to return if only Nijisanji addresses things and shows clear and visible effort to improve itself to the public. But whoever is in charge isn't willing to do that.
>Dieng branch definitely means graduations in the truck loads by the end of the year
At least a mass graduation will allow Elira to explain herself and Finana to soft-reboot her image.
>>75899999
Checked 'em, I would pay money to see a documentary on how the whole thing happened.

>>75900306
man, imagine being a metaphorical fly on their discord server's wall and see all this shit unfolding in real time

>>75900306
>I would pay money to see a documentary on how the whole thing happened.
If anything vtuber related gets a hollywood treatment it's going either going to be Selen or the rise and fall of Rushia

>>75851698
I’m legit amazed there are dedicated Niji clippers in the first place. Didn’t Niji try to claim any and all clips so they couldn’t be monetized or that they dmca’d clippers to make way for their own company ones?

>>75885914
It would take literal threat of death or dismemberment for me to forgive any of the black screen streamers. Like 'Riku pulled strings to have my cat confiscated at customs on my way into Japan' kind of evil.

>>75899999
Quints of truth.
Doubling down on a widely unpopular decision (in this case, Niji's attempts to paint Selen as the bad guy) is almost never a good idea. It's especially not a good idea when you've had a full week to gauge public opinion and notice that people aren't buying your bullshit.
Whatever idiots signed off on the black stream should be not just out of a job, but out on the fucking street for making such a horrific blunder.

>>75898760
Imagine if they'd streamed it today overlapping her scheduled karaoke instead. Imagine how hilariously bad elira and her fish sidekicks numbers would've been then.

I obviously didn't watch it but was Pomu mentioned at all during the Lazulight anniversary?

>>75900306
>But whoever is in charge isn't willing to do that.
Isn't the guy in charge the same guy who thanked Luca for saving his job? Yeah nothing's going to happen

>>75899999
it was a good stream, it exposed selen's obsession with wiretapping her friend on a call without their permissions. no wonder almost all ex niji livers and anybody with self respect like mint and ironmouse avoided that crazy bitch, only reason why we see holostars orbiting around donki is to leech off of her 4view status, they dont give a crap about the drama and her wellbeing, they would readily collab with niji en the next day if vanta or claude calls them.

>>75862189
Pbox is still there somewhere in the discord talking, he just stopped clipping. The first guy either changed his name or vanished years ago before the Selen incident

>>75903681
"maybe this time, four months after everyone outside of my doxx site bubble soundly rejected this bullshit multiple times, they'll buy it"

>>75903681
>holostars orbiting around doki
Funny how nijien males are now orbiting fucking holostars

>>75845991
Man, Rosemi getting -23k sucks.

>>75845963
this

>>75905266
Rightly deserved for being a fraud and traitor

>>75905409
Nah, I think she's really stuck between a rock and a hard place.

>>75905785
Guess who else were stuck between a rock and a hard place?
She's a fence sitter, she's still hoping nijien would somehow manage to turn it around while trying to present the image of tragic heroine trapped in toxic workplace, and you rosecucks swallow it whole just like your name sake.

>>75845587
We all know how it goes, people make temp accounts to make their oshi reach a sub goal, everyone does that, the problem is that if you piss off the people that do that, they will unsub ALL their accounts, and that's what we are seeing happen now.

>>75906061
Nah, she could totally be stuck in the grad queue with the reat if them.

>>75906061
Rosemi never goes down with a sinking ship, that traitor coward is definitely in the graduation queue

>>75906512
Next Phase invader?

>>75903681
I shit my pants in public. It was a good thing because it exposed how weak and unabsorbent my pants were to everyone.

>>75906512
Seethe harder, sister. She's one of the last people in your shitty corpo with any kind of goodwill left. Her graduation will be bittersweet, but will still be widely celebrated across /vt/

>>75907146
>fraudsemi
>goodwill
roru
Fucking Kotoka has more goodwill than her

>>75907146
>your shitty corpo
I don't care about niji, I just hate rosemi because she is a spineless coward and dropped her when she joined that trash company

>>75907293
>Fucking Kotoka has more goodwill than her

>>75907293
Rosemi has what, 5 bitter Tsunderia schizos like >>75906512 that hate her? While Kotoka is basically unpersoned by most ex-niji fans for her backstabbing

Can’t wait to see Luca below 1 million

>>75901761
There is a good chance that it was Elira and/or Vox and/or the other one idea.

>>75907635
Sure, but she's not trying to pretend that
>everything is okay in NijiEN guys! Look at my 3D! Oh gosh I can't wait for the concert next month!
Fence-sitter like her is arguably worse than straight up bitch like Kotoka

>>75907937
>how dare she not immediately torch her career to satisfy my unmedicated ass

>>75908361
Breaking news, just following order is NOT a good enough excuse.

>>75907937
>Everything is OK in NijiEN
>had to take a 'mental health break' right after AR Live
Sure is nice when you can rewrite history in your mind.

>>75907810
I really doubt Ike is petty or stupid enough to push, let alone have that idea himself. I think they have pictures of him screwing farm animals.

>>75908567
Just like Enna.
Funny huh

>>75908673
>best year of her life

>>75908546
Hey dawg, Niji's a shitty corpo, but they're not the Fourth Reich. Take your goddamn pills.

>>75908361
Pick a side then!
How come enna's boytoy was able to when he has less safety net than fraudsemi?

>>75908884
Niji didn't really lose much with Kyo. I don't hate the guy as mich as most people around here seem to, but I doubt they bothered putting the screws to him as hard as they likely are to Rosemi to make him stay.

>>75909189
Right, so my theory >>75906061 holds water.

>>75909189
I don't think they started chaining everyone to the yacht until the Q3 report dropped. We know there's a graduation queue, but there was no announcements since then until Bobon's. Remember, he didn't retweet the black screen since he probably knew it was going to be career suicide and wasn't going to bring that with him when he left.
Fuck him though, he deserves to rot in obscurity

>>75909189
>Niji didn't really lose much with Kyo
You're not wrong

>>75845963
I'm pretty sure Mori's RM draws bigger crowds than nijien

>>75847208
Coco ch is still at like 1.4M

>>75876872
Are you sure about that?

>>75854715
Flaygod isn't a sexpest he just genuinely floods 2view basements

>>75899999
Quints of truth

>>75909762
>shilled by 2 former workmates
>relentlessly raided into, collabs in the first weeks
>got in some huge indie minecraft server by numi (fad already died tho)
>basically easy free access to the biggest indies from the get-go
>back to low 3view not even a couple of months in
he got one of the best redebuts someone could ever want holy shit how does that happen? Is he really that much of a cunt personality wise?

>>75907293
>Kotoka "the vampire slayer"
>goodwill
Lol
Lmao

>>75909189
If by "putting the screws to [them]" you mean "not letting any of them graduate for any reason other than contract expiration," then yes they're putting the screws to Rosemi and the others.

>>75908860
Yeah, they are worse

>>75910724
You have to be at least 18 to use this board.

>>75907293
Wayyyyyy too obvious sis

>>75910700
If she renews her contract, your schizo rantings will hold water. I can totally see why suddenly bugging out would seem like a bad move from her POV.

>>75910724
BASED

>>75909189
The fact that niji never threw him under the bus tells me there's a serious MAD situation in play; both sides are scared to death of the other saying what they know

>>75898760
Anyone that actually watched Lazu knew all three girls often overlapped streams, even when it was only the three of them at first. It wasn't trying to attack Mint, it's just what all three girls often did for almost three years.

>>75911845
Now this is cope

>>75913560
Elira always streamed for long hours. Hell, the infamous Minecraft stream started when Elira started her Stickman stream. Finana tends to stream a little earlier than Pomu while Elira probably overlapped both most days. Pomu eventually incorporated one early morning stream a week with Minecraft.

>>75910606
Worse, he's boring and NEEDS someone to bounce off of to be on the same level of a regular entertaining streamer. From what I watched while he was Kyo, his 'bants' tend to be against people who don't fight back like Scarle, or are low blows where he's attacking them personally

>>75911118
An outwardly bitch is way, way more endearing than a full-on two-faced girl like fraudsemi.

>>75914717
>fraudsemi
>Niji is literally worse than the Fourth Reich

your brain really doesn't work too well

Why do sisters like >>75914717 hate Rosemi too now? She hasn't even left the company.

>>75851911
Bro what the fuck? I'd have been asking every two DAYS, every two weeks is a perfectly acceptable follow up time to ask for updates on the status of your perms requests

>>75915209
wdym anon? Sisters hate everyone other than their boytoys

>>75915209
Matara mentioned she has one friend left in Niji.

>>75915209
Rosemi graduating would bring Niji several fathoms closer to crush depth, and they know it. She's one of the few who have a really good shot at a post-Niji career.

>>75861195
anon...

>>75914717
>kotoka isn't two-faced
Sis you have completely lost the script

>>75915209
They're convinced she's planning an exit so they're preemptively dragging her in a feeble attempt to dodge the bus throwing accusations

>>75915209
Rosemi's a bitch that retweeted the Elira black stream tweet, literally only Scarle is pure

>>75851911
>sisters unironically saying its harassment to tell your managers to do their job
I hope you're still in this thread almost a whole day later, I wanna hear your next cope.

>>75915209
Sisters picked up on shitposts from her past life and now they're trying to push it as hard as possible for... some reason. I always thought Rosemi was universally seen as one of the good ones by both people and sisters alike but I guess >>75915495 made them think that's not the case?

>>75910700
Speaking of contract expiration, aren't Iluna's contracts almost up? Their channels were created in early July 2022, and I'd assume they were hired at least a month or so before that. If the contract term is 1 or 2 years, then they'll be needing to renegotiate a new one very soon.
What do you think the odds are that at least one of them decides not to renew?

>>75916127
Y'all REALLY need to get over the re-tweets. It's a copypaste that probably took all of ten seconds for their managers to armtwist them into clicking the button on in between all of the other menial shit that they do on a daily basis. It's not in the same ballpark as being one of the black screeners themselves. It's not even the same fuckin sport.

>>75916127
intern kun probably forgot the password to Scarle's account

So because I am interested partially and I don't think anyone has tried doing this, I'm going to try and take as much of an apples to apples comparison using subs growth. So let's take the runts of Council vs Obsydia which are the closest generations from both companies to be compared. That would be Fauna and Rosemi. Socialblade doesn't let us go far back, but we do get the beginning of April 2022 and we do see from a growth perspective, Rosemi was actually gaining more subscribers than Fauna did in this time period despite Fauna having much higher numbers and only when the COVID buff ended in around September of 2022 and both growth periods looked about normalized back to slower inclines. They look right about equal there in growth up until the end of 2022 which is where all the stuff started coming out that negatively affected Nijisanji started with Yugo's termination and from what we know now, some screwy stuff regarding projects and stuff being denied or cancelled which had been happening in the background in 2022 may have started showing a bit in content staleness alongside with Niji's non-investment in promoting talents after a certain period and etc. due to more waves. Everything else then kinda plays out as expected and you can see the drop in subs then due to Selen's termination. If there was a peak period for Nijisanji, it would've been pretty much 2021-2022 from looking at this.
I dunno if that exactly ruined it, I think the downfall and stagnation came later, but that certainly planted the seeds. Unless Riku dissolves the branch, EN won't collapse (it might even stay #2 in NA), but it will never grow from where it is now. They might never regain the lost subs in Q4 at the end of the month.

>>75916973 (Me)
Peobably wasn't even an armtwist at all. One of their handlers probably messaged them and said "hey, post this" like they do with dozens of other things in a given week, and they just did it without looking at it.

>>75916387
Well, they did hate Nina so much, they congregated on her nyfco page like maggots using her corpse as their home. Since Mata said >>75915495, they probably saw it as a jab to 3thyria, I guess?

I've started assuming that anyone saying stuff like that here is a larper. It's the sort of idea that can't exist outside of an echo chamber.
shit idea.

>>75885840
Dunno about others, but whenever I post it, I organize by sub gain. Meloco's gaining subs again due to constant JP collabs, and the japs don't know nor care about NijiEN's horrific implications for the main branch. I believe she's the only organ who's completely recovered from the drop in February, though Vanta is close.

...Which is extremely ironic considering she was basically the Ike in Zaion's smear videos. She's about as horrific as the others.

>>75919661
I'm not even sure why meloco is in NijiEN lol. maybe she just used it to enter NijiJP so she can skip VTA

>>75919780
Unironically that

>>75919780
That is exactly why Meloco and Kotoka are in EN. Is there anyone left from VTA anyway?

>>75920398
didn't they all just up and quit recently?

>>75919661
>...Which is extremely ironic considering she was basically the Ike in Zaion's smear videos.
I thought that was Kotoko or whatever her name is.

>>75920723
Kotoka was more like the Vox
>said Zaion was a good friend then proceeded to throw her under the bus
Hex was the Elira by appealing to emotions
>said Zaion hurt his feelings using his own sexual assault story, Elira was afraid of the clique getting doxxed
Meloco (and to an even lesser extent Ver and Doppio, they're basically the air in the recording room) was just there.

Did elira imply the entire stuff surrounding the black vid was acknowledged by the other organs at the branch outside of the ones featured in it (aka they looked at the script/final video before pushing the announcement retweets) or was it just confirmed by her that it was their consensus to host it on her channel?

>>75911845
I feel like if they wanted to maliciously overlap, they'd pick something more important to steal from than part 3 of a puzzle game with a 1-2h offset.

>>75921425
>Meloco (and to an even lesser extent Ver and Doppio, they're basically the air in the recording room) was just there.
I guess that's not too bad then.

>>75845991
Seeing what's happening to Scarle and Rose makes me sad.

>>75920723
No, the 3 pair up almost exactly beat for beat.
>Elira, Kotoka: Emotional response; crying, "she was the enemy! She tried to hurt us!"
>Vox, Hex: Aggressive defaming from position of authority; "I was Selen's friend and worked with her constantly! She was wholly unprofessional and just a schizo" "I am a victim of SA which I've never mentioned before ever. She's a schizo and evil for attacking me despite not knowing about it prior."
Ike/Meloco: Appeal to reason/the "neutral party": "I was just a normal person like you! I'm mostly sorry to Zaion/Selen's fanbase for going through all this. It sure is bad of them to put you through all of this since we're all hurting, right?"

They could just ask for more subs

>>75921804(me)
>>75921425
Yeah, in hindsight, Hex and Elira being counterparts with Vox being a closer counterpart to Zaion from the friend angle makes even more sense.

>>75850944
>VOD views
>When sisters are infamous for artificially boosting views and publishing "guides" for it

>>75921804
>they legit thought they could pull a zaion >one of their biggest organs deserve the same garbage treatment the 3 month old one got
>legit looked at the script and final video and thought they had a gotcha
this has to be deliberate man, like insider trading/shorting scheme-tier

>>75916127
Kunai and, oh the irony, Kotoka didn't retweets it either from what I remember.

>>75922321
kotoka was MIA before shit hit the fan if I'm not mistaken

>>75845587
I'm glad my oshi is out of that shithole
BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN

>>75916480
There's a non zero chance Aia might bail, considering the brief PL activity and the fact that about month ago she talked about how one of her oshi "who doesn't work here anymore" wasn't "given a fair shake" and how that makes her mad.

>>75922619
didn't she kill that with the whole thing about telling people that wished she got out of there to fuck off?

>>75922884
>>75922619
What the fuck is going on with her antis, anyways?
She has an incredible amount for someone so small, and they're extremely dedicated and schizo. I've never even been able to find out WHY they hate her so much.

>>75922433
If I remember correctly Rosemi was "taking a break from social media" too, yet she retweeted.

>>75922971
PL drama probably

>>75922619
Could be a case of "stop making noise about this idiots, let me do this quietly and without fuss", idk.

>>75922974
probably just management skinwalking, don't think too much about it

>>75850944
>Luxiem
>Head to head with fucking Phase Connect
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>75923132
Was meant for>>75922884

>>75850944

Time to go bilibili

>>75910606
The only success he ever got was after leeching of Enna chink fujos who thought their relationship and banter was endearing because they are fucked up in the head. Take that away and he got nothing to offer.

>>75923661
im more impressed he didn't start to pull that again and hasn't latched on to an indie yet

>>75914665
And he gets all pissy when people start to bant back and ALWAYS resorts to "STOP TALKING ABOUT MY ILLNESS!!!!"
In that golf collab, doppio said jokingly: "The i in iluna means INEPT" and kyo got mad thinking he was talking about his brain damage

>>75922312
It was deliberate and I don't think anyone other than delusional nijisisters denys it anymore

>>75922971
Apart from the respect everyone juice thing she doesn't really have any antis other than the general nijisanji antis who like to use her as a punching bag to prove how far nijisanji has fallen, before Elira and Finana came along

>>75910606
Kyo is pretty much the definition of being propped up by the brand. Nobody watches him for him in particular, it's always because he's doing something with someone else, mostly enna but occasionally Ren and the others too

>>75845587
500k soon

>>75845587
it's so fucking funny to me that ike got so close to 1m and now he'll never get it

>>75925535
That was classic, he got so butthurt he left the discord to go cry to his chat then nuked the VOD

>>75849528
i love that you're posting this as some huge w for niji when the first video is a 4-man collab with 16k views after 4 days. lol irl. the fact that you're even comparing the biggest corp in the world and a billion dollar company to a small corp like phase should really in and of itself tell you how much they've fallen, but i guess not. i don't think i've ever met people more disconnected from reality than nijifags

>>75921887
They could just ask for more people in their events

>>75928546
>A billion dollar company
Anycolor was worth almost 5 billions dollar back in 2022

>>75928411
jesus christ. The last thing listed in socialblade was 992k. He was right there

>>75930311
Fuwa did. Hell, he even told other people they should just ask for more bots, too.

>>75845587
this is so funny to see nijisanji growing backwards past few months

>>75851698
Grim.

>>75899999
quints of truth
i worked for people too dumb to manage a lemonade stand and yet none of them ever thought pulling this shit is a wise idea (even the CEO that thought yelling at someone is a great way to convince him to stay in his company)
This shit is legit "I literally hate money" tier incompetence on several levels as if their whole company structure was based on progressively worse nepo hires

>>75864057
heh, that's a throwback.

>>75849528
>views cope
>taking Phase as a real rival
Jesus fuck, it's so fucking over

Until the Nijien folds to main branch. Total Nijien death.
Dunno goes with the line of... Graduate Livers, Terminate Livers, Roundhouse kick a fan to concrete, ACCELERATE branches to the sun... Something like that.

>>75923132
I hope. I like Aia. She's creative and funny. The cave troll stream gave me several hearty chuckles.

>>75845991
It's wild how Iluna reached 300k subs. Really puts into perspective how popular Niji was in 2022. There was the whole Salome thing too that year.

>>75930452
Just like how nijiID was in the verge of riding the Kobo wave, if they didn't pull out just before Kobo debuted