/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75852120
Let's see how that works out for them next month, chief.

>>75852120
OP they don't spam events for views

>>75852120
What? We're you expecting them to come up with an actual, viable solution.

Apparently Holo makes more money from events than streaming so they probably just look at their competitors and copy without understanding why it works for them.

>>75852320
I mean it's not like there an actual viable solution in their current situation. It's pretty much a self imposed check mate.
The only cope riku have now is that the final result won't have too much of an impact to the mainbranch, but anycolor mondial market is pretty much a sweet dream at that point, making them now unable to ever claim the first place from holo and very vulnerable to any new concurent taking their second place, if they are still alive when that time come.

>>75852120
Who the heck is selen? Go back to your general, /lig/fag

Finana peaked, if by "save" you mean getting back to her previous levels then no, not possible. She might keep going as a zombie for a long time though, slowly rotting. In her place I'd redebut somewhere else. It seems to work for most terrible women out there...
's fin-ito. Good-will is a real thing. She burned it all. Her og fans loved her. That Aprils Fools ASMR stream was horrendous and she was already under fire at that point. The fact she left it up for 6hours with superchats on and only appeared to shill her merch to people she just burned is probably one of the most malicious acts toward a fanbase I've ever seen. To my knowledge those supers were never refunded either. At the time I was laughing at her fans after about 3hours and went to sleep. Then I heard the full story and was disgusted. Her current content is gacha slop, her singing is pleasant but not amazing and she's not consistently funny either or have the life experiences to be a good storyteller. She's bereft of ideas and now has the stain of NijiEN branding on her and a reputation as a clique member/orbiter. She could stream 17hours a day and it wouldn't make a difference. She's on par with Vivi most days and Vivi has had 0 promotion and way less time to really develop a foothold.

>>75852120
They also deleted Reddit two months posts

>>75852120
>Nooooo!!!! They were supposed to fail and get absorbed into the JP branch. Why didn't my organized autism bankrupt a large foreign corporation?

Seethe

>>75854391
yeah, Niji's thriving! Look! They only lost 75k more subs this month!

>>75854750
Oh no! Not subs! Everyone knows sub count is a major indicator of success on YouTube! That's why a lot of channels that have over a million subs don't even reach 50k views something

>>75852120
>spam events for EN
Spam events for homos JP with some flavor of EN included*
FTFY

>>75852120
The Selen shock would always be temporary but it did highlight nijisanjis main problem - namely the absolute rot that is their managerial structure. They aren't spending enough resources behind the scenes to ensure livers can deliver a good product instead of managing themselves. The current system should be building up the livers but currently it only grinds them down until only the cockroaches survive, enough ex-nijis have talked about how utterly demoralising it is to work there to support that. I can't comment on the JP side but EN is rapidly turning out like their ID and KR endeavours but with how much bigger and richer that market is they'll likely try to milk it for as long as possible

>>75854807
>Lose subs
>Lose superchats
>Lose fans= lose market
>Proved by the fact events barely manage to sell
>Goalposting continues to move
Being a Nijiisis is an hard job, each day a new anchor of sanity falls.

>>75854807
>she thinks its just the sub count thats crashing down

>>75855626
>Lose superchats
Lost less than Holo lmao
>Lose fans
Losing dramaniggers isn't a bad thing
>Proved by the fact events barely manage to sell
>Proof in question: Cherry picked pictures taken by dramafags and not actual ticket sales

Seethe more, drone

>>75852120
>Something is not working
>Get it new instead of fixing it
New livers, New fans, New strategy (now you are all idols), New leddit!
It’s the classic rich kid down sydrome of having never to face a real problem in your life. You think you can just ignore it and move on to the next thing.
Results, the company is basically burning more and more money while the opposition calmly walks forward and wins.

>>75854807
so uh... how about this for a concert turnout? Is this a good metric of success?

>>75855756
>Dramafag unable to read basic English
SEA needs to be range banned immediately

>>75855707
How much of the shit you posted are true?

nijisis already seething

>>75855707
>talks about proof
>provides none
It seems the NDF didn't send their best

>Superchats don't matter
>Subs don't matter
>CCV don't matter
>Views don't matter
>Ticket sales don't matter

>>75855784
Come on anon you're 100% SEA too, plus there no western NijiEN fans.

>>75855793
>>75855808
ESL dramatards need to be culled. They are so starved for drama, they're losing the ability to do their English reps

>>75855707
>All lost subs were bad, so it’s a win for me
>Not gianing a single one while every other vtuber does
>Pics of empty seats were all cherry picked, there is no pic of full theather or good pick aside Anycolor dispensed ones, you honor my client says it’s innocent, therefore I win.
Why even bother discussing with mental retardness such as these. I’m not the one seething here, stop looking at that mirror screen.

>>75855784
So are all of these preshow too, then?
https://files.catbox.moe/q2d3y8.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/b7recx.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/99vqot.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/8pchsg.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/8ksyn5.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/u9r21g.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/pkgxlr.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/srbou9.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/q59x6h.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/grg68m.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/92eg9e.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/2zndnh.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/hc7ou6.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/p6bzv4.webm

>>75855784
>Everything I don’t like is fake
Tank you for admitting how fake you are, cuz you clearly as today’s clown. Dance for us.

>>75855848
But you're an ESL dramatard too

>>75855810
What did you expect from a Nijisister? A valid argument.
These freaks are only here anyway since their little dox site went down.

>>75854807
Another superb mental gymnastics of sisters.
If you think FAKE BLOATED VIEWS of your kpop wannabe male's mv gonna save your dying branch, you really are retarded.

>>75855810
>Claims events didn't sell well
>Doesn't tell me how much tickets they sold
>Posts cherry picked pictures

Your claim. Your need to prove it

>>75855861
>Thats just the preshow
>It's still preshow
>the entire concert is j-just preshow thats why there wasn't that many people showing up
LMAO

>>75855913
It’s worse anon, the leddit went down too, the antis and decent people have Kurosanji to go, so we are getting a new wave of retardness.
If only the jannies weren’t the biggest faggots on earth.

>>75855954
See >>75855957
>in b4 preshow
KEK

>>75855988
>Doesn't know what cherry picked means
Why don't you tell me how much tickets they sold?

>>75855954
>>75855861

Or is your cope that people scalped enough tickets and just... didn't show up? That's fucking hilarious if that's what you're trying to argue here.

>>75855954
>>75855957
>They are clearly performing
>Location is empty
>Removed several griefer/scalper restrictions, still didn’t sell out
Waiting for your side of the argument that is not “I’m crying like a clown”.

>>75856019
No, my argument is you don't know what you're talking about because you don't know how many tickets they sold or how much they made. Which is just true

>>75856016
Hmm judging from the audience in the video
Around 35

>>75856054
The theater was fucking EMPTY.
This is the EXACT SAME ROOM in the same venue that Holo used for holoID's concert.

>>75856016
Sister, I'm sure you can post some pics or clips showing how many people went to the concert. Just prove that anon wrong.

>>75855784
If sisters were so desperate to save the brand where are the pics showing screaming crowds? And we saw the quality of the "concert", a standard karaoke stream with tickets several times more expensive than the full 3D choreographed Holo concert going on. The holo concert has pics of a packed stadium, were the sisters so embarrassed they didn't take any pictures?

>>75856070
The video is not a count of how many tickets were sold. Retards love acting like they know more than they do

>>75856054
This sister is going full blown schizo.
We know your ovaries have dried up already, We know no one has ever showed you genuine love. It's okay sister just close the tab and hopefully rope is cheap in your country.

>>75856155
>>75856109
Do you see the problem here? None of the videos showed a crowd even remotely close to what fucking HoloID showed in that one single photo.

>>75856155
So... what happened? The people that didn't show up bought most of the tickets?

OP Hololive does the same thing lol

>>75856016
Ok then i assume you have the "non-cherrypicked" videos sister

>>75856243
I assume you know the total amount of tickets sold if you're talking about events flopping then, right?

>>75855954
>evidence is clear
>still doesn't believe it

>>75856155
Well, you can shut these so called "retards" up by providing the proof of the ticket sales? What you can't? Hilarious!

>>75856215
Hololive does what? Cover up Selen drama? Holo's biggest drama is Karen saying nigger 20 years ago.

>>75856155
Are you really retarded to think that hundreds of people will buy tickets and not watch?
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>75856273
I just told you sister
around 35 or are you also gonna ignore it LMAO

>>75856273
Sister, stop evading our questions. If you are calling out anons for using "cherry picked" clips or screenshots, that means you have seen the ones with the theater full of people. Show them.

And now, what do you think happened to the tickets?

>>75856273
>Crowd ≠ Tickets sold?
>Smartest NDF sister
Lemme explain it so you can understand. If there were a lot of people that bought tickets then the crowd would be bigger, no further explanation needed.

>>75856300
Yeah, it's almost like retards are saying shit with no actual evidence because they want to act like they know what they're talking while anyone with a brain cell knows to not talk about something they aren't sure of

>>75856273
sister, if fans really love to see their oshis, they would show up.

>>75852120
I mean, what else can they do that doesn't involve burning more capital and a complete restructuring of both their management and policies? This shit should have never happened in the first place since there were so many points in time where they could have simply chosen the neutral (not even the good) option and walked away unscathed
>Could have just Yugo'd both Sayu and Doki to avoid any form of tangible backlash
>Could have just let the fat dragon graduate under NDA like the two Tempiss homos
>Could have left Doki alone even after the termination notice and just bury everything with events like what they're doing now
>Could have not done the black screen stream and let Riku take the hit.
None of the above required them doing anything other than being silent and not picking the absolute worst choice. The black screen was the point of no return for everyone. That one stream pretty much killed Niji in the west and maybe even every where else outside of Japan, cemented hololive as the #1 vtuber corpo for at least the next 5 years, and opened the doors for phase and even other small corpos to get even more talent fans since Niji is no longer an option for the non-sister audience. Assuming vtubers are still a thing after 5 years, people are going to look back at Nijisanji 2024 the same way that they look at the Kizuna Ai and Gamebu fiasco but worse.

>Scalpers bought most of the (already very expensive) tickets and they didn't manage to sell them to anyone
>People bought the (again, very expensive) tickets and most of them didn't bother to show up
or
>People just didn't buy the fucking tickets
Geez, I wonder what happened

>>75856374
If you know what the amount of tickets sold is, give me the exact number. You can't because you don't know it. Anyone smart would not speak about something they don't know about. You continue to because you're a drama started retard

>>75856398
>no actual evidence
>dozens of pics and videos
How fucking retarded are you? If the niji karaoke was sold out why didn't sisters take a single picture of the crowd when every holo concert has pics of a packed room?
>w-well an empty room might have still sold all the tickets
What kind of retard brainrot is this?

Wait, I know. The holokeks bought EVERY SINGLE TICKET to try to make Niji look bad. DAMN THOSE HOLKEKS.

>>75856398
alright your reply confuse me, feels like you are mocking the anons providing the proof of virtual rhapsody not doing well, while i'm actively mocking nijisis not being able to pull up proof their event was actually, not that bad. But you do you bud

>>75856565
>The videos are proof!
You mean the singular video showing the preshow while every other video simply shows the screen? Don't dodge the question. Show me what the ticket sales were

>>75852120
yes considering they wiped clean the entire nijisanji subreddit up to 3 months except for birthday posts BY nijisanji
>hurrhurr leddit
shut up i want to be there when Q4 financials releases and i dont know how soon it is

>>75856554
well if you know, show proof of it, since this is your ultimate proof to show that virtual rhapsody was doing well, and yet you expect the proof to be shown to you, instead of you showing the proof?h4hax

>>75856739
In about 30 days

>>75856791
>Virtual Rhapsody flopped, they sold no tickets
>How many tickets did they sell then?
>No, you show me how many tickets they sold
So you're talking out of your ass. I accept your concession

>>75852465
You're english make brain hort

>>75856738
>Preshow
Kek the sister finally said it after running out of arguments.

>Sister keeps refusing to post any kind of proof that the clips and screenshots were cherry picked
Jesus christ, this is so fucking sad

>>75852120
Also known as "lovebombing tactic"

>>75856554
If you know what the amount of tickets sold is, give me ALSO the exact number. You can't because you ALSO don't know it. Anyone smart would not speak about something they don't know about. You continue to defend because you yourself dont have evidence that its NOT A FLOP

>>75855951
>NO, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FAIL. Nijisisters please don't make sure your views get counted as genuine views AIIIIIEEEEE

Meanwhile Hololive streams are botted to shit. Funny that

>>75855784
So how's the Anime Impulse m&g tickets doing?

>>75856993
well do you have the evidence that is not a flop?

>>75856738
>Preshow
KEK What took you so long to say “it was preshow” sisters usually say the whole concert is preshow immediately

>>75857044
>Nijisisters please don't make sure your views get counted as genuine views
What kind of cope is this? Yeah, make sure to create multiple accounts and use multiple devices so your "genuine views" get counted. Holy shit.

>>75856738
>PICS and videos
>hurr durr one vidya
Learn to read ESL retard. How is it that every single image of the empty room is "preshow" and "cherrypicked", but sisters can't come up with a single image of the room once it was supposedly full? If Holo concerts consistently have pictures of nary a single empty seat why were sisters too afraid/retarded to take a similar pic?

>>75856993
I'm not the one making a statement of fact if I don't know if it's a fact. You are. So show me evidence
>>75856957
>GUyz this screenshot of a video that actually attempts to show the whole crowd during the preshow isn't cherry picked! Don't look at the other videos clearly showing those same seats with asses in it

Make sure you sleep sideways so you won't choke on your drool in your sleep, retard. Now show me the ticket sales

>>75857167
>during the preshow
Proof that it was the preshow?
>Don't look at the other videos clearly showing those same seats with asses in it
Post them?

>>75857044
Yeah. Botted by a nijisister.

>>75857200
You need proof that the animation and introductory shit with no one actually being on screen or singing was the preshow? Despite people who were there saying it was. Fucking kek

https://files.catbox.moe/92eg9e.mp4
Here's one of the videos a retard posted here that proves they aren't cherry picked screenshots. The same seats people say are empty have been filled up. Now show me those ticket sales for Virtual Rhapsody

>>75856738
>Preshow
There it is

>>75857242
What a schizo you are

>>75857329
Oh, so you don't have proof that it was the preshow and you are just assuming so.. Funny.
Also
>https://files.catbox.moe/92eg9e.mp4
...You know that the boys had a different concert, right?

>>75854807
>Expand the limit on tickets to events because they don't sell out
>Expand the limit even further because they continue to not sell out
Very successful branch you've got there.

>>75857329
sister... Even THAT video has exactly the same crowd as the image in this post.
>>75855861

Here's during Sonny's song. Is this still preshow?

>>75856738
Here's your preshow sister

>>75857329
anon this video barely shows the seats and you can still see empty chairs

>>75857329
>Posting a clip of the boys' concert to prove that the ones with the girls were from the preshow
????????
what

>>75852120

>>75857329
this has to be a falseflag

>>75857390
What assumption? People who proved they were there all said it was the preshow and it looks like a preshow. So it is a preshow unless proven otherwise.
>You know that the boys had a different concert, right?
>>75855861
Might want to tell that to this anon who used a screenshot from the video to try proving it was empty for the boys too despite the actual video showing the opposite

>>75857553
So, again, you don't have any proof that it was some kind of preshow.
>Might want to tell that to this anon who used a screenshot from the video to try proving it was empty for the boys too despite the actual video showing the opposite
I don't give a single fuck about what that other anon did. I asked you for proof of the clips being cherry picked, and the only thing you proved is that you didn't even know that there were 2 separate concerts that day. Holy fucking shit, you are so retarded it hurts.

>>75857549
you’d be surprised by how many posts like these are actually serious

>>75857457
>>75857544
Another thing that's pretty telling is how the pictures for the Holo venue are taken to actually try showing the crowd meanwhile the ones people took to thrash Niji is only of the same single row and nothing else. Interesting

>>75857553
>Might want to tell that to this anon who used a screenshot from the video to try proving it was empty for the boys too despite the actual video showing the opposite
LMAO

>Here's one of the videos a retard posted here that proves they aren't cherry picked screenshots.
>The same seats people say are empty have been filled up.

Sister, just take the fucking L and shut the fuck up

>>75857678
>meanwhile the ones people took to thrash Niji
...You mean the people who bought the fucking tickets and went to the concert to watch the Nijis?

You Nijinvalids do know Riku's Janissary Corp will end up a sitting duck, once all the girls leave following the castration your oshi company will undergo with Q4?

>>75857646
The fact no one was on screen and there was a premade introduction animation plus witnesses that were actually there said it was a preshow proves it was the preshow. Your proof it wasn't is because you said so.
>I asked you for proof of the clips being cherry picked
Then you got it, now you're seething. Still waiting for the total amount of tickets sold and money made off the event. To prove you're not a retard and all

>>75857678
>meanwhile the ones people took to thrash Niji
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB ALL ALONG
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
This is too much

>>75857678
It's pretty telling how even sisters are ashamed of posting full crowd views because there is none

>>75852120
I mean what else should they be doing? That plan is better than whatever they did for the last 2 years desu.

>>75852120
The drama went too big. Niji is a poisoned name for at least a year or two.

>>75857781
Did someone not take screenshots from one of the videos to try saying that no one went to Virtual Rhapsody? Who the fuck said the person who took the video was an insider? Kek, delusional retards will be delusional

>>75857678
Oh of course! My bad, I forgot that people skip rows 3 through 10 at these kind of packed events. There must’ve been a huge crowd hiding behind that camera.

>>75857678
Because most of them came from the same retarded girl who kept posting videos despite everyone telling her that it wasn't allowed for EXACTLY this reason.

>>75857861
I mean if the venue is as gigantic as you say it is, where's the video showing the back instead of just a singular row? The only video that did that was one before the show even started. Where's the rest while the members were singing? A mystery. Perhaps cherry picking?

>>75857775
>The fact no one was on screen and there was a premade introduction animation
So, again, you are assuming that it was a preshow
>witnesses that were actually there said it was a preshow proves it was the preshow
Proof?

>Then you got it, now you're seething.
Nope, you didn't give shit. Your whole argument was

>Here's one of the videos a retard posted here that proves they aren't cherry picked screenshots.
>The same seats people say are empty have been filled up.

Sister, what you did was posting a clip from a different concert, so of course the seats would be different, you fucking idiot. Again, you are so retarded it hurts.

>>75852270
spbp

>>75857926

>>75857947
>Shows screenshot of the same row
Did dramafags actually lose any semblance of brain matter?

>>75857678
>nijinigger start shitting her own fans
No wonder your fanbase hate each other.

>Every single clip of the girls is from the preshow
>No one bothered to take a single pic of the real one

>>75857968
Sister, that was a FAN who took those.
Notice how all of the later ones started only showing the screen and higher? Because people were telling her that she was fucking up by exposing how empty the venue was and to stop fucking taking videos.

>>75857928
My bad, I guess they showed the introduction animation in the middle of the concert instead of before and all those people on Twitter with tickets saying it was the preshow were just lying.

> what you did was posting a clip from a different concert
Goal post shifting at it's finest. There was a cherry picked screenshot in this thread and it was proven to be cherry picked because the video shows that those seats in specific were mostly filled. Now give me the ticket sale numbers

>>75857672
nah this guy is just baiting for replies

>>75858052
Proof?

>>75858090
>My bad, I guess they showed the introduction animation in the middle of the concert instead of before
Yeah, maybe. We are talking about the same people who wrote Millle and didn't see anything wrong with it, so I wouldn't be surprised.
>and all those people on Twitter with tickets saying it was the preshow were just lying.
Can you show those people?

>Goal post shifting at it's finest. There was a cherry picked screenshot in this thread and it was proven to be cherry picked because the video shows that those seats in specific were mostly filled.
Sure, I ask you again to prove that they were cherry picked. And this time don't use a different concert, please.

>>75858114
Well yeah, this is a catalog bait thread. If you wanted some actual discussion you’d head over to a general.

>>75858191
>My bad, I guess they showed the introduction animation in the middle of the concert instead of before
What? It's not that weird, cold openings are a thing

>>75858191
Ignoring your bad faith argument about how an introduction animation was actually played in the middle of the concert.
>And this time don't use a different concert, please.
So basically
>You retards use cherry picked screenshots of events
>No we don't. Look at how empty this event is. Find proof it's cherry picked
Then it's proven it's a cherry picked screenshot then
>Nuh uh, that doesn't count. I PERSONALLY was only talking about the girls concert, not the boys.
Yeah, and you still lost because it's already proven that you cucks use cherry picked screenshots

>>75857672
if this one is then that’s sad

>>75858428
Circlejerk somewhere else

>>75858139
I'm not doxxing the poor girl.

>>75858594
I accept your concession

>>75852120
This is 100% what they should've been doing from the beginning: shut the fuck up and stream. If they'd just laid low for a couple of weeks then started up again, business as usual, this whole thing would've already blown over. I mean if they'd just told Selen, "We don't like you and you don't like us so you can fuck off and we'll each pretend the other doesn't exist," none of this would've happened but you get what I mean.

>>75858366
Sister, this is clearly a waste of time because either

>you are insane
>you are too dumb to understand how retarded you are being about this
>you are just a shitposter and I'm the dumb one for eating the bait

So, before I go, for the last time:

>Ignoring your bad faith argument about how an introduction animation was actually played in the middle of the concert.
Yeah, I don't really see anything specially weird about this. Do you have any clips of the real concerts to compare them? If not, you are just assuming the it was the preshow. Also, I'm still waiting to see all that people that went to the concert, bought the tickets and claimed that the clips were from the preshow.

>Then it's proven it's a cherry picked screenshot then
>Yeah, and you still lost because it's already proven that you cucks use cherry picked screenshots
That's not how it works. To prove that they were cherry picked screenshots and clips, you need to post proof of the seats being filled up. What you did was:

>Those screenshots of the girls' concert are clearly cherry picked AND from the preshow because those same seats are occupied in a different concert

So, go on. Find clips or screenshots that prove that discrepancy.


Anyway, I'm out of here, so have fun talking with the wall or another anon who is willing to waste their with you.

>It was the preshow
>The seats don't match
>It was an inside job all along
We need to make our own iceberg meme at this point

ooo man after hours the sister are still using the same talking points and are still not winning any argument, very neat

>>75858763
>Last word posting
Dramatrannies remain seething. It's not an assumption to say the introduction animation was played before anyone showed up. Go scroll on Twitter for people telling you it was the preshow on your own time, tranny
>Creates a strawman argument
No one specifically said girls concert until after it was proven the screenshot of the boys concert was cherry picked. Now go cry into your pillow. YWNBAW

>>75858955
>it was just a shitposter
it's scary how nowadays you can't differentiate them from the real sisters

>>75858932
>>75857848
True, I should make an iceberg on the absolute retardation of the /vt/ board. They aren't called a containment board by the rest of the site for nothing

>>75859025
>it was just a shitposter
I'm not so sure yet...

>>75859025
is there a difference?

Riku, do you realize, that this NijiEN is the WORST POSSIBLE brand ambassador for your company to a global audience? What you're doing is making the entire world hate the name "Nijisanji". You are shooting yourself.
If you were choosing a group to promote the name of Nijisanji, choose someone else. This is doing damage to you. Soon you will find yourself limited to Japan only because your reputation everywhere else is so bad.

>>75859088
Go circlejerk somewhere else while also viewvbotting more Biboo streams

>>75859122
Tell everyone about your unsub bots theory again, that's always worth a chuckle

>>75859111
Well, shitposters can be funny sometimes. The sisters just make me sad.

>>75859113
>Oh no! Fat autistic incels with a chip on their shoulder don't want to watch us! What will I do? Better go bankrupt

The fact this is probably what you think he's supposed to react like is embarrassing for yourself and your parents

>>75859209
Is that how you cope?

>>75855784
>SEA needs to be range banned
so you mean we banned nijisisters?

>>75852120
Look man, hes a CEO retard.
All he knows is "throw more money at it" strat.
Its a dumb strat but it mostly always works

>>75856619
It was clearly /#/ that bought all the tickets up just to make NijiEN look bad, just like how they have a bot army >>75857950 that was just waiting to unsub when a Niji yab happened!!!

Nijisiters have truly lost their minds.

>>75857968
you dont even have eyes sisters,you cant see the difference there

>>75859488
Anon why'd you say that for, Now sisters being the troglodytes they are are gonna think that what you said is 100% true.

You should know better when handling these type of people.

>>75858634
the girls are just the preshow anon

>>75857525
You know, that kind of makes sense. Sisters only care about the boys so to them the entire girls part might as well be "preshow"

>>75859593
>Same introductory animation of the same row without showing any photo of the sides or back of the venue

We still cherry picking?

>>75860814
heres the back of the venue

>>75860814
more animation for you

>>75856133
>just post the concert pictures and there will be an end to the horror

>>75860939
>Left section of row filled
>Same row as all other screenshots , not showing the seats in the middle, back or sides. Just one row in the front

You cucks are bad at this. Now give me the number of ticket sales

>>75860875
KEK, I guess the venue just doesn't have seats for people watching the concert in the back

>>75861127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bVuP9Atlb8
Same room btw.

>>75860814
https://files.catbox.moe/b7recx.mp4
you want sides here you go
i was trying to be nice by showing the guys part but you just had to be a nijinigger

>>75861415
And why are you showing me a screenshot where no one is able to see the seats and the person recording on the right has video footage of the seats being filled? Are you running interference?

>>75861580
>Shows same preshow animation that was already posted ITT
You just had to prove you're a retard

>>75861638
Sister, you can see the EXACT SAME seats filled as before, but from the front.
There is nobody else behind.
They all moved to the front because fucking nobody was there.
Compare it to the ID concert where no matter what angle you used, it was completely packed like sardines.
You can't keep coping like this. It's not healthy.

>>75861726
>girls are just the preshow amrite

>>75861797
Kid, you can't see any seats. It's pitch black except for the person recording on the right and the screen. In fact, the person recording on the right shows the seats were filled. You're supplying me with the evidence proving you wrong. It's fucking embarrassing

>>75860814
let's not forget intern kun can't stop adding Ls to niji

>>75861127
>>75860939

The fact that you can't even acknowledge that there are empty seats in a fking function room sized concert is kinda sad

>>75861919
Preshow animation also explicitly includes the boys proving you're so much of a retard, you didn't even bother watching the video

>>75852120
is it?

>>75862048
>I can't see anything so it doesn't exist
Fking nijitard

>>75862201
>Shows a picture of pitch black room where no one can see anything
>"There's actually a tiger in this room!"

This is the level of cope you're on right now

>>75862179
>WHERE IS MUH PROOF
>NO THAT'S NOT PROOF, L RETARDD
nijitard self projecting their retardation of ignoring all proof

>>75862311
Next movie you go to, go 30 minutes early and take a picture of the seats and tell me how successful the movie will be in the box office. Give me the number of tickets sold or money made then you can start talking

>>75862058
>moves cursor ganbare intern kun

>>75858366
>when there is smoke theres fire
weather or not the so call "concert" or glorified karaoke is full or not you sisters are getting baited into this so hard you cant even think clearly

like they are comparing holo to niji concert which is 100% niji wont win atleast on the EN only side why?
>holo
full 3D concert
lower price
bigger space
>niji
glorified karaoke
higher price
might not even have seats
smaller space probably around 1k people would fit there
currently has a bad rep

>>75862442
>REEE EVERYTHING IS A PRESHOW REEE
Honestly you're just amazing at this point
Lemme dance for you nijinigger

>>75862507
you forgot the earwax sharing sesh

>>75857861
>not taking a picture because is not allowed
>no proof to defend yourself
oh sorry i dont mean not to trust anything you said or something it just that you are defending without proof is the same as a karen trying to scam someone

>>75862512
>Not a single member on screen
>Animation introducing all the members
>"It isn't a preshow, they just felt the need to introduce the members midway through the concert '

You're a retard

>>75856016
>>75856133
Still waiting sister. Not beating the allegations. Unless you did not go to the concert either?

>>75862652
>Holo out of nowhere
Gentlemen here you have a fine specimen of the Nijiniggers law

>>75852120
>newfags
Because it's too difficult for you to process the truth that they're the same people and always will be.

>>75862681
>>75857329
Apparently you were just sitting here and were too busy goal post shifting to notice. Since we're talking about waiting for proof, why don't you pull up the amount of tickets sold?

>>75855861
>empty seats
grim
i wonder if theres a braindead fan in the back of the pic because pretty sure those empty seats are just sitting there. wont they want to get closer so they can feel closer to the boys

>>75862652
>>75860939
>Not a single member on screen

>>75855707
>lost less than holo
>literally turns off supa becuase merch sales is enough
sister can your oshi turn off their supa?

>>75862652
>>75855861
>"Not a single member on screen"

Gentlemen here you have another fine specimen of a nijitard

>>75862820
>Shows video of a filled left section as some form of gotcha
>Is a video of the same row
I should just start tagging the same posts to see if people can actually read

>>75862925
No one was talking to you, faggot. We were talking about the book animation, go circlejerk on reddit

>>75855831
KEK
IF ONLY I WOULD HAVE KNEEL

>>75862978
How do you plan to see if people can read if you are blind

>>75863025
NIJISEETHETE
speaking of reddit maybe you should go back and post there instead, nijinigger. don't you all have a group there

>>75862978
>>75861415
THIS is what it should have looked like. No matter what angle you look at, the room is completely packed.

>>75863100
rip, sister was probably about to argue that it's singapore's fault for being small

>>75863100
That photo is taken way farther back and you actually can see more than two rows at a time. Give me the amount of money made or stay retarded

>>75863202
why tf should antis be providing that? It's your fukin company you should know how much it was made right

>>75863202
>>75863142
No, it's literally the same room in the same venue.

>>75863242
So you have no proof that it flopped so you cherry pick screenshots from videos to act like you know more than you do? I accept your concession

>>75863284
You keep asking for proof but never provide any. Your arguments are nothing more than riku's fart.

>>75863296
I'm not the one claiming it flopped. You are. So show the stats proving it

>>75863284
You can accept that virtual flopsody was a flop, yes.

>>75855831
The only valid metric is VOD views on six-hour Vox streams in relation to VOD views on two-hour HoloID streams

>>75863334
you don't even need stats to see that it was a flop lmfao
Ofc what do I expect from nijitards who ignore all the proof

>>75863334
So you're claiming it was a success? Then show us the proof too. Show us images of a filled exhibition hall. Oh wait you weren't there, or you were too embarassed to record proof

>>75863390
I don't need proof to see if an event was successful or not? The stats are the only thing that matters. Not retarded horseshit like screen shots of videos showing the same single row. Either pass the stats or admit you're a retard

>>75863490
>I don't need proof to see if an event was successful or not
holy shit lmao

>>75852120
Wasn't there a day where nijiEN failed to have a single stream above 1k CCV a few days ago?

>>75863490
you really think niji would be dumb enough to release those embarrassing stats?? You're asking for something that will never see the light of day lol

Guys, when a venue with limited seating suddenly removes a purchase cap to desperately move tickets, it's because the event is too successful.

>>75863465
>So you're claiming it was a success?
Kek, Twitter trannies really did migrate here. I never said it was a success. I never said it was a failure either. I said no one knows how much money was made so people here calling it a flop are retards. Good strawman though

>>75863595
this is what nijisisters actually believe

>>75860939
Just by looking at the back of their heads I can tell some sistets are really cute

>>75863612

No proof? I accept your concession

>>75863612
I guess if it's not a success nor a failure, we can say that it was just average for niji

We know Colors was a success because they made the Chinese buy tickets twice. They should just do that with every live.

>>75863800
>>75863902

What's wrong? No stats?

>>75863612
Buddy if you think it wasn't a flop I have a bridge to sell you

>>75863954
see >>75863583

now show us proof with pictures of filled seats.
No proof? I accept your concession again.

>>75863978
>Buddy if you think
You know that Malaysian chucklefuck isn't doing any of that

>>75863978
Sorry, I'm not interested in preaching to the choir for the thrill of having a retard agree that Niji is "le heckin evil corpo" for free up votes. Reddit is that way

>>75864012
Kek, retards here already did while trying to prove the opposite. Don't know what that has to do with the amount of money made either. No stats?

Sister... you know what "cherry picked" means, right? You can only claim that the pics and the clips are cherry picked IF there are others that show that those same seats were occupied.

This >>75857329 only proves that you don't know what the fuck you are talking

>>75864412
>Shows screenshot of "empty seats"
>Same video in it's entirety pans to the same seats and shows that they're full
>"I didn't cherry pick because.... I JUST DIDN'T OK"

Now show me the stats or continue coping, Dokidrone

>>75864535
>Same seats...
>...from different concerts
You see the problem here, right?

>>75864591
>>75857553
Try again

>>75864626
>Might want to tell that to this anon who used a screenshot from the video to try proving it was empty for the boys too despite the actual video showing the opposite
Sister, I have been reading the thread

>GUyz this screenshot of a video that actually attempts to show the whole crowd during the preshow isn't cherry picked! Don't look at the other videos clearly showing those same seats with asses in it
Same seats, different concerts. The clips were not cherry picked, you were just being a retard.

>>75864073
if you think those seats are fully filled you are retarded

>>75864827
>No argument being made
Concession accepted

>>75864034
but you're retarded enough to shill for a corpo, corpofag nijitard

>>75864893
You mean you conceded? Still waiting for that proof nijitard

>>75864967
So am I. Guess we'll never get those stats that prove you're not full of shit

>>75864998
again, continue to ask for something that will never come out.

>>75863612
You say you don't think it was a success but here you are trying so hard to prove it was not a flop

>>75865056
Well, looks like you have no evidence. Making you a retard

>>75865152
LOL the nijitard says "no evidence" when all he is doing is just ignoring all the evidence
39 IQ momento

>>75865138
I never said I didn't think it was a success either. I said no one knows if it was or wasn't successful and anyone claiming otherwise is retarded. Keep on building those strawmen

>>75865152
>Wheres the statsssss who caress about the photosssssssss

>>75865231
The photos showing a singular row in a giant venue? Do you need the movie theater analogy again?

>>75865230
yea but you are clearly stupid enough to not see those empty seats tho. You gonna sit on that fence until you split

>>75865256
Put on your fucking glasses please >>75859593

>>75865265
There is no fence. There's fact vs retards trying to act smart. Showing the same empty seats in a giant venue is only proof that some seats were empty. Now give me the ticket sales or admit you're talking out of your ass

>>75865230
>>75863612
Nijinigger just admit that you think the concert was successful. May be successful to you I know, it's fine we all have different standards after all

>>75865322
>>75861580
>>75861726
Learn to read

>>75865375
it's not even a giant venue, it's only a part of the exhibition hall lol. The fact that they can't fill it up speaks volumes. And here you are coping that it's not "proof enough" and moving the goalpost to ticket sales instead. You think niji would release the ticket sales? If you can't even work with what you have then you lack common sense

>>75865527

>>75861415
Kek, do you know what moving the goalpost means? The first thing said was that the pictures were irrelevant and to show evidence of the ticket count. Still haven't seen it. Showing some seats being empty isn't proof of anything other than there were empty seats. Might as well say if you take a picture of only yourself then it must mean no one else is around you

>>75865816
>Pictures are irrelevant
NIJICOPE

Remember to keep grinding your social credit on Billybilly like le retard de Miload

>>75857365
I'm going to go against the board's culture and not make fun of you for being ESL. I'm just going to let you know that native English speakers don't talk like this.

>>75866431
Whats his name again?

Man... That guy who keeps on asking for stats for ticket sales is a big eye sore. Who even looks at the ticket sales when clearly, most of the photos show that a lot of seats were not even occupied especially on day 1. What kind of retard asks for ticket sales at that point? Either you are blind or you can't accept what is in front of you.

>>75866881
>Has never heard a British person speak longer than 5 minutes

>>75867014
Seethe more, faggot. The average person outside of your hug box won't buy cherry picked photos. You have no stats and you're crying

>>75866984
miload

>>75867100
I am not seething here tho. I am just baffled that guys like that exists. But if it is indeed cherry picked, that is something the other guy should prove am I right? And not just to ask for details of ticket sales from someone else?

>>75867100
Nta but you're clearly the one seething. Everyone (not just /here/) is laughing at Niji and it's failures. Sorry but that's reality - maybe you should stick to your little hugbox on Nyfco - oh wait... you can't kek

>>75852120
What else are they supposed to do when they lose subs every time they stream?

Nijisister be like

>>75867614
>Is petrified of actual arguments so he just starts circle jerking
Classic
>>75867924
>Pls don't question why the only photos I use are of the same row. Don't ask for actual evidence of the event not being profitable either.
Nice kindergarten level drawing. It reflects your level of comprehension

>>75868100
You're worshipping a brand created, and now being destroyed, by an incompetent trust fund baby for short term investment. You are second only to a unicorn in how pitiful you are.

>>75868310
>shitting on uniGODS
I smell a faggot

>>75868354
You smell your own dick fumes wafting back at you. Use better lube.

>>75868423
so true sister

>>75868100
>claims no one believes the event was a failure outside of /vt/
>it's explained that in reality everyone does
>gets upset
Sorry that reality has an anti-niji bias, little sis.

>>75854750
Subs from casuals who don't even pay don't mean shit, Niji is stil worth more than Holokek

>>75868596
But let us give congratulations to Petra first! YAY!

>>75855954
Photos of the venue aren't evidence. The brain of a Nijisister.

>>75868596
You are fucking retarded sister. People who unsubbed are people who actually cared as they were aware of the drama (and not bots, dead subs/accounts etc.). Those were active fans of Nijisanji. This also can be seen in CCVs which are also much lower today. Fucking VOX is dipping into 3view territory, see pic related taken in a middle of a stream. Niji even attempted to spam 3D reveals to boost CCVs to boost numbers in the next raport for investors. And for very long awaited 3Ds like those, those numbers were trash and had strong evidence of botting.

>>75852270
So literally Chinese View farmer shit?

Kind of mindblowing how attempting to improve and giving the fans (the ones who are left) what they want like 3D, events, and merch is just considered "endless damage control" and "spamming events"
They could treat EN identically to how Cover treats HoloX until the end of time and you fags would just say it's "a last minute desperate hail mary attempt to please the investors" every single time

>>75870113
Yes.

>Have 3D models for months at this point
>Massive PR disaster happens, with a big hit to income in your EN branch
>You become the most hated corpo in the industry, investors are likely to sell, those who didn't are waiting for the quarterly report.
>You are well known for putting investors on the first place, nothing else even close
>All of the sudden start releasing shitload of stuff, including events (which are deserted) and mentioned 3D models
>The same people are in charge, the same massive favorism is in play, absolutely 0 apologies
>"Why are people saying it is not genuine?!?"

>>75870113
Honestly, at this point I wouldn't give a FUCK if the whole branch got the best 3D models of the industry. What I want is NijiEN to explain what the hell happened with Selen, to come clean with the bullying and harassment allegations, address Zaion's awful termination, get rid of the problematic talents, stop with the favoritism, implement a proper management and explain how they are going to keep the organs safe from now on.

It's all about trust and feeling that I'm not supporting terrible people. Instead, Anycolor prefers to SUDDENLY throw everything they can at the wall and to keep shoving Elira and Luxiem down everyone's throats.

And of course, it doesn't help that everything they are doing is scuffed and rushed as fuck at best.

>>75870113
they could start being genuine by treating their livers equally instead of allowing sexpests to freely violate NDAs

>>75870113
Here's the difference, HoloX was shilled from the fucking start, they were not some sub-branch left to rot until everything blew on their faces. I'll put it in simple terms for you sister:
>Hololive is the BF you really like, treats you well, makes some minor mistakes and then corrects them just for you and is overall appreciate of you
>Nijisanji is that cool BF you always wanted in highschool but later find out is a deadbeat with no plans for the forseeable future, he abuses you and guilt trips you whenever he cries about stuff he could easily change in his life. One day he cheats on you then he's on his knees because he's been living in your house and doesn't want ot get kicked out, you give him another chance and he starts showering you with gifts every time he can
You see the difference? one loved you from the start, the other is afrad to lose their home, aka their income.aka (YOU).
>Well Hololive didn't treat their talents right from the start!!!
Yeah, but they sat down and talked it out, they didn't start giving them flop events after events, they steadily moved forward or are you gonna tell me that the big majority of the next NijiEN concert is not gonna be chronoir fags ratehr than NijiENfags considering how low the latter's ccv is???

>>75867100
nerd is blind

>>75868100
>Closes eyes, ignores all pictures, keeps asking for stats
talk about a retarded faggot

>>75852120
Yup, casual audiences are like that. I'm never forgetting this though, because despite any other possible drama from other corpos that nijisisters might try to make out as worst than it is, NOTHING is going to compare to one of nijiEN's biggest female organs almost killing herself from bullying and mistreatment, then getting swiftly terminated cause of it and had a failed slander campaign directed at her. This sort of shit is "final yab" territory, and if it had happened to any other corpo, you just know nijisisters will be milking that drama extremely hard.

>>75867100
oof the nijinigger seethes and cries for numbers

>>75870883
Do not forget that the company itself bsaically called her suicide attemp and story ''Negligible''.

If niji where to release niji en gen what are the odds of them doing what smaller corpos are doing and do sponsored wacthalong to respark interest in their cripple branch

>>75870736
>flop events after events

How is this their fault again?

>>75870883
nah,its simple because western are full of virtue signaling moral bs(which is ironically used to be their main fanbase) sp when the whole selen bullying to suicide hit,its OVER for niji,their reputation already tainted,the reason why no big fuss because nobody cares,but if they act like they are "relevant" ppl will shit on niji again,just like when they open audition,everyone already called them black company and not to apply,which mean ppl dont forget at all, to make things worse, doki is thriving and literally creating public big event for many vtuber corpo and indie, so yeah "Selen shitshow" will never be forgotten.

Nijisisters = Destiny drones
Holobronies = Hasan Piker stans

It all makes perfect sense if you think about it

>>75871411
Hasan "chair" piker? hell no lol who is even interested in watching an empty chair

What views lol? Did they finally stop LOSING subs after 3 months?

>views

>>75871785
chumbuds probably

>>75867130
Voice Demon, he's good friends with Yucky Wilson.

>>75871860
they are still losing subs anon, petra is about to go under 500k

>>75863082
>>75862747
>>75862925
Rent free obsessed.

>>75852241
btw I want to mark my calendar, when does the financial report come out?

>>75872060
lmao holy shit

>>75872232
june 13th

>tfw you realize the EN branch just blackened the name of Nijisanji to the entire world.
>every stream and event they do is spreading the horrible news about Nijisanji to literally the entire world
>Riku is actually paying for negative promotion of his company

>>75872355
>Finana is about to hit the 500k milestone

>>75872355
I'm glad the sexpest is losing subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6jIlcKEMg0

>>75872355
>Ike is never getting the gold play button
I mean, not that he was going to get it anyway, but, well, you know.

>>75872585

>>75872585
He was so fucking close too. Less than 5k away, if I'm not mistaken.

>>75852120
>Personality driven media
>Focus on providing everything but personality
Sausage

>>75863142
Do they think the fucking sand is gonna attend or something lmao

>>75872677
hey at least they got NDF to harass anyone that speaks ill of them
they got lots of stats nerds too it seems

>>75872548
>Luca put Nijisanji on life support
>Implying anyone even fucking cared about the Raziel incident

It was supposed to be False's big drama bomb and the only one who cared were other people who hated Nijisanji, Luca's actual fans just told Raziel to shut up and financially it didn't even make a dent in Niji

>>75869832
They're losing more subs than YT accounts that have been inactive for 2 to 5 years.

>>75852120
Lol

>>75877424
kek

>>75852120

their 4views have become 3views and I've seen their top girls with worse than aster numbers

The talents may be having it rough, but management has more important things to worry about right now than their employees' financial and mental well-being.