/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75813747
fuck off sister

>>75813747
Filian is past her prime
Ironmouse is on life support
Doki failed to capture momentum
NONE OF THE ABOVE, NIJISEETHE

All three have different niches; there's no reason for them to compete. Considering at least two of them have schizo antis I wonder whether the antis overlap as well or whether OP is just a regular dramafag.

Guras gone again? I thought she came back?

>>75813747
>With Gura's seat vacant
gura's seat ain't "vacant", she just shows up every few months, farts on it so that nobody else takes it, and leaves again

>>75813747
Fuck off Catalog Vermin

OP is a faggot

>>75813747
prune the numbers thread and shit-tier bait like this disappears

>>75813747
None of these three. But regarding the question, I actually have to put my money on Biboo. She's go the hours, the skill, the cuteness, the entertainment power, and the corp support. If she keeps up the momentum, I can totally see her taking the title in the next few years.

>>75814590
It'll get worse.

>>75813747
more like doki and filian are working together double penetrating mouse.

>>75814692
She's not even the second fastest-growing in her gen

>>75813747
https://files.catbox.moe/uwejxb.webm

>>75814692
bijou is like an idealist's version of why gura got popular, she has a lot of her best qualities from back when she actually cared. but the reality is, gura is as popular as she is because shark girl branding

>>75813747
Hello OP
Can I request that picture of Ironmouse, but slightly thinner and taller?

>>75814831
lmao

I love Ironmouse
I love Dokibird
I love Filian
All three are hard working vtubers who deserve all the encouragement and support even if one is not an active watcher. They make the EN community shine and alive.

>>75814893
Based

>>75814780
It's about velocity, not acceleration. The rock has staying power, and her cuteness and memery allow her to act as a gateway drug, much like Gura.

>>75814893
one of the only good posts here

>>75814820
>>75814946
What you and a lot of others saying this don't realize is that that's not all there is to it. Gura is cute shark cunny, but she can also sing really well, and music is another thing that gives you a huge advantage for growth (see: Mori for Myth, Nerissa for Advent). Gura had over 100k people showing up to her karaokes in 2020

>>75814778
Hot I need art of this now

>>75814893
Hey what the fuck you can't post this

>>75814893
Based.

>>75813747
Depends what you mean by "popularity". If you're talking about mainstream popularity, like a vtuber is popular in the same way that a celebrity is popular, then I would argue that Gura was never popular. She has the biggest numbers, sure, but she essentially exists in her own dimension. You don't see her outside of strictly Hololive related events. Ever. That's largely true for most of HoloEN. They're kinda like scientologist actors. You see them in movies, and then once in a while doing a press tour before a movie release, but the rest of the time they're in their own world.

The other three are closer to mainstream celeb status but are still niche. If I had to pick one I would say Filian. She's the kind of person you could see going on a late night talk show for instance. Mouse could as well but I feel like she gets awkward when doing professional events still which puts her a step behind Filian. Doki could get there but I think it's still too soon, she hasn't solidified her place yet as she's only been around a few months (pre-2024 Doki doesn't count).

>>75813747
Why wont mouse collab with them?

That would be FWMC, not just EN they will be face of vtubing

>>75813747
donki easily, because she has the complete support of a brainwashed western audience. even though mouse is the better person and content creator.

>>75814893
Good post

I miss my wife filian

>>75815539
Same

>>75815466
>donki
NijiNigger didnt even try to hide anymore.

>>75815031
>100k people in 2020, the year the whole thing with Covid and worldwide lockdowns started, forcing more people than usual to watch vtubers like Gura
>flash forward to PRESENT DAY where Gura's last streams can hardly gather 30k live ccv at best

ogey

>>75815307
Filian doesn’t like ironmouse. Doki idk

>>75815670
wtf i love filian now

apparently the answer is filian, then kobo.

>>75813747
Please ask again after any of these starts making more money from merch than Gura

>>75815828
hahaha i love how EN have a lolicon and japan has a hag its all ass backwards

>>75815828
>was hoping there would be drama if filian surpassed Pekora on 4chan. Nothing happens here
Well nothing is going to happen here if she surpasses Marine but it will take a long ass while until she passes Gura so we can have fun drama on /vt/

>>75815327
>FWMC, not just EN they will be face of vtubing
if this happens, people will assume all vtubers are basically teletubbies with tits
and to an extent, they won't be wrong, kek

>>75815828
Where’s the hag with 20m subs?

>>75813747
Mouse have the ultimate advantage of being extremelly brand friendly, friends with twitch lefties, sickness buff, huge youtuber feeding her content and viewers + corpo buff.

>>75816170
Idk how the fuck mouse is seen as brand friendly. The wild shits she said while being zooted bruh

>>75815924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME6TBt5g2JY&t=9878s

this should be posted everytime these retards get uppity

>>75813747
None of them, obviously, but the only one of them with even a remote shot is fillian.
Mouse is too focused on trying to get the wider normiesphere to take her seriously despite being an anime avatar.
Doki is more interested in becoming a shibuya hal figure than gura, someone whose events make her a central figure in the scene but the time sunk into them means their brand doesn't grow that much among the viewership outside of 'events guy'
Filian is the hyper content brained tiktok zoomer one spamming out clippable moments for shorts that get the kind of wide but not deep recognition that is needed to theoretically contest the top spot.

>>75816323
Filian makes nazi jokes every stream. She literally roasted a guy for being jew last stream, people still hate her for the george floyd joke, she makes pedo, abortion, suicide jokes constantly. Mouse is safe edgy when she's zooted and filian is just edgy every single stream lol.

It's kind of funny that only numberfag holodrones seem to take this thread seriously.

>>75816722
Yeah you’re right.

>>75816761
hololive successfully converted their fans into fanatics like that marketing guy recommended while everyone else just kinda watches vtubers as a hobby and doesn't really give a shit

>>75815828
pretty wild that kobo's in spitting distance of pekora

>dookiefags are targeting Gura and Hololive now with their harassment
Lmao, I warned you people.

>>75818349
bait used to be faggot you believable

>>75813747
Filian is kind of already there

>>75813747
Who(re), who(re) and who(re)?

>>75815327
>the face of vtubing
long way to go

>>75814692
Kek no. Kobo has a better chance of surpassing Gura, and that's saying a lot considering she's Indonesian

>>75813747
>dookieshit
LMAO no, fuck right off

>>75815466
>mouse
>better person and content creator
They're both grifting whores.

>OP samefagging

>>75819634
did you expect anything else from catalog bait this weak?
faggot even came into the split threads to shill this turd of a post

>>75813747
Motherfuck the big three, nigga, it's just big me

>Big 3
Gura shouldn't take this mockery and release a diss track on these losers.

>>75815828
Kobo doesn't speak English outside of collabs or when she has a stroke and wants to pander to her English once a season.

>>75819842
releasing a diss track would require gura to put effort into her job

>>75817809
Sounds based ngl

>>75820081
nah uh, just you wait until she drops the hottest beat of the summer

>>75813747
>zoom out
>the white background is just the hair of a giant CookieSwirlC.

So what's the appeal of Doki? Is she a good singer/performer? Can anyone post her karaokes and concerts?

>>75820281
doki is pretty much exclusively for people that don't give a fuck about songs, concerts, GFE or numberfagging and just want a vtuber to make them laugh

>>75820385
Why not just watch twitch fleshtubers then?

>>75820385
Is she funny? Post some funny clips of her.

>>75820503
this clip sums up the experience of watching doki better than anything else:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UwdCtLe5c

>>75820610
Do dokifags really?

>>75820451
because twitch is cancer, while doki streams on youtube and is actually fun to watch

>>75813747
Doki can’t even get past 5k in her normal streams anon. She’s only useful when she organizes events

>>75820837
Post fun moments of her.

>>75813747
Filian’s odds are objectively way higher than the other two, she has more plausible mainstream appeal and has objectively fine tuned her streams for dopamine production, like a scientist or something

>>75821035
just watch this VOD, it'll give you an idea of if you like her type of humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz2ZXSPgUIU

>filian is a 3 foot 8 midget
>ironlung is 10 rocks heavy
That's a warm-up meal for our queen doki.

>>75813747
>inhumane griefer
>skunk bitch
>self-proclaimed whore

the west didn't send their best

>>75821368
Why do Holofags fall for bait?

>>75821417
they are programmed to. like if you tell a muslim the quran kinda sounds like bullshit they flip the fuck out.

>>75813747
None of them are even close to overtaking gura

>>75821730
Stop samefagging

>>75821368
wake up anon, it’s 2024. we fucking love whores here

>>75821293
I'm 12 minutes in, when does the fun start?

>>75821869
when she actually starts playing the game, 'ya fuckin' moron

>>75821368
Which one is which? I'm not well versed in indie history.

>>75821816
Kill yourself

>>75822204
No, cope faggot. Your thread is dogshit.

>>75822014
>22 minutes in
>still no fun

>>75822117
grifter = mousey
pardon my ESL, now go donate to her and help her cover up the cost of CVID treatment!

>>75822517
yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I expected. she's just not for you, but considering that you complained about not having fun yet before the game even started, you probably just didn't want to enjoy her content in the first place

OP is a faggot /thread

>>75822517
>22 minutes in and she still hasn't announced a new set of merch
how can she even compete with gura

>>75822889
You have brain rot.

>>75822889
KEK

Catalogfags are the most retarded people.

>>75822940
if you like gura that's fine but you can not deny that she usually only streams to shill merch. might as well call me brainrotted for saying she's blue. she just is.

>>75823036
Did your mother drop you as a child? What compels you to be a catalognig?

>>75823138
thousands of holofags invading my oshi's thread to numberfag mainly. don't dish it out if you can't take it.

Not the pink one
Not the yellow one

>>75822889
lol

>>75823194
Dude, you're swinging at shadows.

Can their merch beat a collab done with Nijisanji & Genshin Impact? Can their merch be the best selling in their corpo? Can their figure outsell a popular anime around the same time? If they can't do even one of them then they are not even close to laying eyes on the throne.

>>75814893
Cringe

>>75823414
>denying that gura doesn't stream
>denying that numberfags are a menace
i think your brain rot comment was projection

>>75814893
based

>>75823453
I'm not a Holofag. Again, you're swinging at shadows.

>>75823586
if you're batting for numberfags you may as well be one

>>75823633
Fuck numberfags and fuck OP.

>>75823669
there's nothing wrong with the op

>>75823722
Using other chuubas to shit on another chuuba is wrong. It also invites others to shit on them as well.

I think in the next year or two there will be a new talent who was a nobody who randomly gets recognition and rises to the top. Weather that mean it’s an indie or new future Holo member remains to be seen

>>75813747
>no Pippa
>no Kirsche
>no Lumi
>no MariMari
ngmi

>>75823970
Neuro sama already fits that description in a way

range ban sea and these threads will slow down quite a bit, giving access to pag pag fujo trannies was a mistake

>>75824343
Agreed

>>75824243
She’s fine but she’s not real. The real magic of seeing a vtuber rise to the top is the journey they to through. For example watching Korone from debut to now was incredible. Neuro is just a gimmick and half of the gimmick involves a male so it will never fill the shoes of a real vtuber journey akin to Korone, Suisei, etc. Part of the reason why Gura is the way she is is because she had explosive growth from the beginning and never had to work hard or prove herself. We need someone with talent who started at the bottom

I like how easily holofags and nijisisters fell for OP’s bait and knows its bait but still bit

>>75820503
https://files.catbox.moe/7plpun.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/m1o5ao.mp4
https://youtu.be/j_sOzDwgHDI?t=10
https://youtu.be/qY_9ZGWR_cQ?t=18
She's a bit of an adorable little brat that loves to joke about how lazy she is, but she's always cooking something fun behind the scenes, be it events, contests, music, tournaments, wallpapers, random ass crap like shimeji, fucking VRChat worlds, and in general her community is very involved in her content creation. If you like an artist that draws her or someone she likes, chances are she likes them too and will eventually commission them to do something or help out.
Following her is a good way to always have something to look forwards to because she ALWAYS has at least 5-10 projects cooking at once. Up to now, she sorta had to start over from ground level, but now's about the time that they're starting to bear fruit. Expect a LOT of crazy projects and shit to start popping up rapidly within the next few months.

That last video that she got fired over is a great example. She commissioned over 15 artists in the community to help draw it, as well as other community members to help with the music, video production, etc.

>>75824645
About half of the posts in this thread are OP himself.

>>75824665
Genuine question: what do you hope to achieve by trying to promote your oshi in a catalog bait thread? The anon you're responding to almost certainly is not asking you to post about her in good faith.

>>75824820
Might reel in a tourist.

>>75824665
This >>75824820 give it a rest goon

>>75814298
>Ironmouse is on life support
>Laughs like a maniac
>Yaps for hours
He really believes this bs.

>>75821368
>self-proclaimed whore
Her butthole is cute. Can you blame her for wanting to share pics of her spread ass?

>>75824820
dragoons are kind of naive, and will take any opportunity to talk about why they like doki so much

>>75824554
Idk man, seeing the way she develops as AI technology improves is very reminiscent of the way a regular vtuber grows. Cant really call it a gimmick anymore when all the other AI focused entertainment channels are dead or dying while shes still thriving
>We need someone with talent who started at the bottom
I doubt thats realistic anymore with how oversaturated the vtuber market is. Maybe in JP

bump

>>75815466
>Mouse
>Better person
Lol
Lmao, even

>>75827856
This website is not allow underaged users

>>75828197

>>75813747
>Ironmouse
Queen but only in Twitchland.

>Doki
Unfortunately, Niji drama buff did not seem to last long.
Just like Kson right after she was fired from Hololive.

>Filian
Her main content is short content on Tiktok/Youtube. But she is definitely the closest to Gura.