/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>this is the end. So long and thanks for the bones
wdhmbt

Stop letting the thread die!

>Region lock is finally back for quickplay
Idol Showdown is die!

>>75739146
Anon is a little fruity

>>75737435
Wow that’s a ridiculously disjointed up smash what the fuck

>>75739484
>up smash
devanon...

>>75739484
anti air of the gods

>>75740971
Despicable. What frame is it?

>put region search on mild to not get matched with pablo's coco
>not a single soul online
eu online is already completely dead

>>75665261
https://twitter.com/ErimoK

>picasso plays coco
holy based

>>75742499
you wanna play in like an hour? not home right now

>>75741758
soooooome 2h

>>75742747
won't be online at that point
people could argue about joining the discord but if you need to do it for a game it's just dead

>>75742997
it is 8nfortunate but that's just how these games go sometimes. They turn into discord fighters. There is an IS dicksword but from the looks of it, it's a lot of sweats and dickriding. I'm usually on during eu hours if you wanna try tomorrow

think this morning there was talk about about how the IS devs didn't set up a side tourney for combo breaker right after their big update and being supported by cover. I wonder if maybe cover gas to approve these kind of things now?

>>75739484
>>75742869
It doesn't help that Ina's 5M extends her hurtbox super far. It's like that time everyone was stunned seeing Bowser vacuum Diddy into his pivot grab but it turned out Diddy threw out a button right before the grab came out.

>>75745448
That'd be silly but I can see it happen knowing Japanese bureaucracy.

>>75747001
do wish we can get a better look at the hit box but uh..yeah

at closer inspection, you have all the time in the world to punish ina for pressing buttons

also umbrella has a lingering hurtbox after the initial attack

this shit dont make sense to me dog

asking for it

this ones fine

>>75748914
Dear Lord, you could probably fit another 2H in there.

>>75749198
yeah not sure why they made it so big, I'd like to know the thought process there. It's like some fucked up monster hunter boxes

on the topic of ina, this showed up in my recomended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDS1eQPBAFw
I literally forgot mio assist had that rocket punch. I dont think anyone utilizes mio at all in this game

>>75737435
>OP Image
Kusa

>>75749418
She's not an S-Tier assist but she sees use. Her punch is neat since it combos and scales the damage of the next hit up instead of down.

>>75748914
The fact this isn’t disjointed is actually a scam, wtf. Unless they’re right on top of you or over, you’re gonna get hit with a super from mid screen

>>75747195
I do wonder how they get the transparent hitbox images and why they haven't done it for the entire cast.

>>75750546
I’d assume data mining the sprites and then manually syncing them up, which would explain the incompleteness

>>75750438
its just a combo externder anyway

>>75748609
The fact this has neither a disjoint nor any cancel options is wack.

>>75750127
naruhodo, I like the wall splat and might start training mio with my ollie to see what I can start converting off of from the punch. Her other assist does debuffs right?
>>75750546
yeah probably just datamining it. I could just removing the frame bar and other shit thats in the way and just get screen shots of the hitboxes and throw it into a rentry. Same with pekora since those idiots at the wiki still haven't updated that

>>75751119
You could even get away with also adding those images to the wiki. See: Ollie's page.

Yeah you guys thought MY hitboxes looked weird

>>75751950
dumb hitboxes are part of the kusoge formula

>>75751950
Some of Smash's hitbox silliness can at least be explained by the how the Z-Axis is a thing. I wonder how many people are aware playing on Flat Zone actually effects gameplay since everyone is smushed into 2D.

>>75752193

>>75748914
holy shit

>>75748609
>>75748766
We already went over it in a previous thread.
I just double checked myself right now just to make sure before going to sleep but here's the gist:
There's a reason why I'm the only Ina still playing in my region, she just hard loses against all of the cast no exceptions. It feels like they tried to make Ina a 'honest' character, it even shows in how polished her animations are compared to the rest of the cast, but if you're in a kusoge you need to have kusoge moves or you're not viable.
Her problem is that her kit have no synergy whatsoever. Her zoning tools have poor to no confirm options, and her combo routes can straight up be denied by her own normals.

>Zoner
Her 2M hurtbox is just abysmal. You WILL get it on recovery or whiff, you WILL lose any trade too. Her far-combo is just 2M>2H. 2H DOES NOT CANCEL INTO ANYTHING. No special, no cancel, nothing.
You can argue that you're supposed to use 2M>3H or 2M>4H, but this has major issues.
=> 1. If you're in range for 3M you're also in range for anyone in the cast to counter-poke for maximum damage, and as we saw poking with her 2M is just asking for punishment.
=> 2. Going for 3M means you CANNOT use a fireball, you lose the back charge.
Your far-combo that can
=> 3. 4H is cancellable for the fireball.... which won't connect, can be reacted or even counter-special ON HIT unless you're in the corner. And no, forget about the down charge because
=> 4. 1H will just buffer into 2H. You were not going to combo that 2>8 charge from that far anyway.

>Combo
Why the FUCK does 3M exist? There's already an universal move for the overhead with better startup, better active and better complete recovery.
Her only route allowing you to use charges that will NOT whiff is (L)>2M>2H. And this still has a change to not connect if you're not in your opponent face... which Ina doesn't want to be. Which means that basically her charge moves are not to be used in neutral, only in combos. The worst offender being that useless fireball.

There's more but I'm too tired to think. But the most important thing to remember is not even all of this kit, but how that's what she got to fight in a kusoge.

Ina anon, your monkey’s paw…

>>75753746
>>75753837
>(L)>2M>2H.
(L)>5M>2M.
Fuck, too tired.

>>75753746
>Her far-combo is just 2M>2H
5M>5H

>>75751485
>see ollies page
>pic related
kind of wish it showed the start up for it. I've been getting caught trying to raidollie some shit and being punished for it. Guess I can go in game myself and see but it'd be nice if it went over everything
>>75753746
yeah I see what you mean after taking a deeper look at her frames. I'm not exactly sure what the design philosophy is other then "She played may in guilty gear, lets make her charge! But also make her a zoner beause she has tentacles!"

naruhodo

While we're complaining about how Ina is designed, why do Takos go away when Ina's hit? They're not like Sora's notes Pre-Next Fes where they could get Sora out of combo if you were really unlucky and without meter Ina is not winning a projectile war with a Tako enhanced blast.

>>75756093
from what it looks like, they have an active hitbox, presumably they still hurt you if you try being funny with ina

>>75756093
Probably for ""balanced issues""

>>75756093
I’m guessing they don’t count as projectiles and are instead just a funny form of disjointed hitboxes tied to an object like Pekora’s tnt. If their owner is hit, they’re included in the “delete hitboxes” check

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3KTY0ybbqI
PNGTuber LilyPichu playing Tekken. She's ranked down to Mighty Ruler since Saturday.

>>75742579
Thanks.

pink thing live with tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/rinamarinavt

yuni also live with streets: https://www.twitch.tv/yuniruyuni

I did manage to save the update fighting idols list that anon posted a few threads ago incase korone baker forgot. I can post the updated list now if korone baker is here

>>75757493
i am, shoot

>>75757953
Botan: I think she's switched to Lily main, and hit Diamond 1.
Subaru: Diamond 3 Kimberly.
Aki: Swapped to Guile, Silver 2.
Towa: Switched to Ed, Platinum 1.
Mel: Terminated, VODs nuked, maybe link an archive?
Sora: Iron 1 Chun-Li.
Momo: Graduated, VODS are still up.
Nekota: Gold 2 Guile.
Hoshito Tomori: Master Juri.
Amayadori Nageki: Master Ken.
Sourin Chiami: Master Chun-Li.
Coyote: Dominator Leo in T8.
Shimada: Not sure in SF, Mighty Ruler Reina in T8.
Church: BBTag Diamond 3, T8 Dominator Panda.
HanyaVT: Changed channel url to https://www.twitch.tv/hanya (embed) also hasn't played a fighting game since September.
Takamura: MBTL C4.
Sophie: T8 God of Destruction Jack & Xiaoyu, SF6 Master Honda.
Tara: Got Battle Ruler Yoshimitsu to go with her Master Manon.
Huntress: Master Chun-Li, DNF Duel Legend.
Dreammxy: MK1 Champion, T8 Flame Ruler Lili, SF6 Platinum 3 Manon.
Rura: T8 Flame Ruler Feng.
Sunset: Streams here Twitch.tv/sunset_radiance (embed) not youtube. Dominator Azucena, maybe mention Skullgirls too since that looks like her main game?
Reimomo: Now streams here https://www.twitch.tv/reimmomo (embed) instead of the old channel. MBTL B4, GBFVR is her main game but I've got no idea on her main, she swaps alot.
Karubi: Looks like she swapped to Blanka, currently at Plat 1.
Sharaka: Master Ken.
Senba: Mains Lily.
Peo: Hasn't played IS in 6 months, also link goes to one of her streams?
Yuccho: Apparently playing Blanka now, also Master.
Tetomi: Master Cammy
Akane: Got up to Diamond 4 Lily, also plays a lot of My Hero Ultra Rumble.

And some new chubas
Kobo "Demon Lord Tempest" Kanaeru : T8 Beginner Victor.
Rica: Formerly Yozora Mel, now indie pngtuber, Gold 1 Ken. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz4jhqrCfthF8NnldZeK_rw
Hira "Here's The Hurt" Hikari: Master Marisa. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFsWaTQ7kT76jNNGeGIKNSA
Zentreya "ZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNN!!!!!": Garyu Jun.
Toto "Toxic" Kagara: Silver 1 AKI. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgTzsBI0DIRopMylJEDqnog
Nanahoshi "Knockout" Nana: Platinum 4 Juri. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncsOsnMBAAaYb6WidBYIDw
Kurumi "Necksnap" Noah: Silver 5 Cammy. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIcAj6WkJ8vZ7DeJVgmeqKw
Cielle "Suplex City Siren" Amour: T8 Dominator King
Nanimo "Nightmare" Navi: Playing GGS, mains Testament.
Sakura "Elite Miko": Plays Soulcalibur 6 somewhere around every 2 weeks, not sure if she's even ranked.

all from what he's posted

>>75758094
Oi, Coyo reached Fujin

>>75758094
i will fix it later tonight

>>75758221
ah I knew he missed something the first time I saw the list

>>75758094
I've got a bunch more new chuba's I'll post in a while too, actually.

>>75758221
Really? My bad.

in order to be revitalized , fig needs to return to its all traditions, like for example wondering what the fuck is wrong with sophie viewers
https://www.twitch.tv/sophie_asg

>>75763024
is she on schizo mode or something, why is it on playing with viewers? Also how do you manage to get banned on her channel? She has like zero moderation

>>75763188
>is she on schizo mode or something, why is it on playing with viewers?
she is on alt because she is on partner range already but got denied so she doesnt want to hurt her numbers
> Also how do you manage to get banned on her channel?
sophie herself doesnt know, she asked him, then a moderator banned him again so i suppose its inner discord drama
>She has like zero moderation
and yet she has a thousand swordmen how curious

>>75765194
if only she had a flash kick she would be an actual zoner...

>>75765194
man I wished they gave her a flash kick.At least she would serve the function of a zoner, right now she's just...trying her best

>>75765702
Should have made Ina's halo spin orbit her vertically instead of horizontally.

shrodinger's shimada maybe stream maybe not

>>75764670
>doesn't want to hurt her numbers
I'm so confused about that
>banned again after being un banned
Thats what I mean by zero moderation. You got some weirdos with power for some reason

some weird sexo jp cat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_G977aZxbE
cant see what play style she's on

uuuuuu

>>75769851
did shimada even put out a schedule

>>75769569
Tacticollie

>>75770101
nope, hence the uuuing

>playing jun after they nerfed her
but why

guess sophie has accumulated a clan of some sort

just noticed this dude is red ranked and is beating sophie who's a god of destruction
ranking system really is just a shiny sticker for tekken

>>75774700
rank is more of a suggestion

>>75774272
miss sf6 clan era... now shimada left us to rot...

oh vivi is on tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/victoria_brightshield

>>75765702
Can she even box properly?

>>75776833
what do you mean box?

>>75753746
dev-san didn't want to give her a chance

>>75777389
Oh ok this is a smash term thing again. Boxing is when you can use your moves, usually things that are quick, midrange, and have a bit of disjoint, to play keep away and control a space rather than actively go on the offense. So like how ROB can use dtilt to poke and force people away to control his personal space better.

…Is controlling space something that matters outside of a movement focused game?

>>75777543
I thought smashed also used zoning as a term? Anyways she has the tools for it but then she also has tools that dont compliment the zoning part of her kit, so she's kind of has an identity crisis and as >>75753746 has said, she's too honest in a game where you really shouldn't be

>>75776715
>Wants to play 3ddy
>Can't afford him
Can someone please save vivi...

>>75778196
christ situation in niji is grim
even shimada bought one and her house is full of snakes

>>75778182
Zoning and boxing are kinda different. Zoning is like keeping someone at a distance, boxing is stuffing them out when they get too close. And then there’s also swordies who keep people at range with disjoints, which is also kinda different. Smash has too many archetypes

>>75778196
hopefully its more then just bad money management from niji

>>75761519
>I've got a bunch more new chuba's I'll post in a while too, actually.
And here it is. Well, part of it anyways.

Dima: T8 Raijin Alisa youtube.com/@dimaduchess
"Berserker" Brienna Elskadottir: Platinum 5 Luke, T8 Mighty Ruler Lars youtube.com/@BerserkerBrie
Fire Lord Brie: Smash player twitch.tv/firelordbrooke
Yozora "Matchless" Meguru: Smash Player, mains Sora youtube.com/channel/UC_PPLxB-Ky6He9vtb1YxoSA
Dokebu: Smash player, Brazilian Steve main twitch.tv/dokebu
BeamQueenSol: Kirby speddrunner and PNGTuber, plays a lot of Kirby Fighters 2 twitch.tv/BeamQueenSol
Amatsuki Luni: T8 Vanquisher Jun twitch.tv/amatsukiluni
Yuntea: Looks like they may be coming off a hiatus or something? Main game is KI(2013) twitch.tv/Yuntea69
Kuroa: Master JP. Another KI 2013 streamer, played UMVC3 recently too youtube.com/@KuroaZato1
Pandora: Plays a lot of Brawlhalla and a bit of other platform fighters, but also a good chunk of GGS. https://www.twitch.tv/x0pandora
Ainya: Was a Xrd player, recently returned from a hiatus playing Strive youtube.com/@AinyaEN/
Bombshell: Chun-Li main, also plays a good amount of GGS twitch.tv/projectbombshell
Anya: Diamond 3 Juri, plays a lot of games with GGS, BBCF and MBAACC being the top 3 https://www.twitch.tv/ban_anya
Raiko: Apparently doesn't do streams, just pre-recorded content of mostly retro games youtube.com/@Raiko_Star
Hoshimiya "Supernova" Tsumugi: T8 Dominator Kuma twitch.tv/tsumugi0807
Ale Kirser: T8 Dominator Alisa twitch.tv/alekirser
pashirineko? gaonya?: Ken main, not sure on her current rank twitch.tv/gaonya
Futon?: Platinum 4 Jamie twitch.tv/41futon
Kashi: Ken, hit Silver 1 during her stream last night, may have gone higher or lower later in the stream twitch.tv/kashi_neko
Meche: Retro chuba who does Fighting Friday, and sometimes stuff on other days youtube.com/@super_meche
Serotina "The Sandwoman": Got T8 Lily to Garyu in her last stream, but played for a bit after still so it could have moved some twitch.tv/serotina
Hoshino Laplace: GGS player with a little SF6 twitch.tv/hoshinolaplace
Extaria Grace: GBFVR player twitch.tv/ExtariaGrace
Asa: Bilingual, English and Spanish. Master JP, GGS is her main game, playing some GBFVR recently too twitch.tv/asahinoningyo

Expect more tomorrow; right now I gotta sleep.

>>75778196
>>75778273
Fuck Niji.

>>75781540
>asa
seems to just be a normal dude
>dokebu
also another dude
>Yuntea
my ears do be deceiving me so I'll let baker san check this one out.
Everything else seems pretty good. I guess we weren't really looking hard enough if you managed to find even JP smash players and a JP marvel player. Good work

gonna sleb dont let the thre4ad die

>>75781540
>>75782185
oh and beamqueensol as well seems to be male
We might have to filter some of these since it doesn't seem their main game is fighting even if they DO play it once in a while. We aren't really at the point anymore where we are hurting for streamers like we did a year ago but its all appreciated just the same. Also even if you hate the company some of the talent aren't responsible for that shit show. Rosemi, Vivi and the few jps like Naraka don't need to be bullied

Does anyone here wanna play a bit of IDS?

>>75782635
sure post a code

>>75782700
neat
461DA71C

>>75753746
She’s more of a midranger than a full charge zoner. 3M is more for mixup once she gets a knockdown and unlike the universal overhead it starts combos without assists, for example 3M>3H>28M>whatever. Her gameplan feels more like slowly backing you into a corner and poking you until she can get a checkmate situation. For 2H, you’re supposed to jump cancel into j.M to continue the combo. That said, while she has grime, she does feel a bit too “fair” to be truly great. I dunno, she doesn’t feel like someone like Pekora that just doesn’t let some characters play the game, or like the shotos that feel like they can handle any situation you throw at them. She can definitely work but it doesn’t feel oppressive or versatile, if that makes sense.

>>75782635
>>75782985
ggs need to get ready for bed. I wish I had a DP to beat out these jabs but oh well. Think my main problem was being beat by the 2h when it looked like my animation was out first

jp streets: https://www.twitch.tv/izumiiivt
https://www.twitch.tv/hiitagg

>>75784125
ggs & gn anon. I don't know anything about ollie so it was fun learning what she does but I think coco has good jabs to snuff out fast type moves
I personally disagree how they made her in this game

>>75784362
my ollie is very rusty since last time I really played was last update. I kept dropping everything as you saw whenever I dropped down and started whiffing everything

alright sleb time, hold the fort