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How do make male vtubers less homoerotic?

>> No.7528629

>>7528608
How do we make viewers less homophobic?

>> No.7528641

>>7528608
use female avatar & female voice

>> No.7528645

>>7528608
>Anon can't watch a male streamer without thinking about gay sex constantly
Perhaps it's time to accept who you are, anon. It's not healthy to lie to yourself.

>> No.7528654

>>7528608
Make them badasses instead of gayasses

>> No.7528666

>>7528654
this

>> No.7528805

>>7528608
Just try to be less attracted to them

>> No.7528872

>>7528608
Feels like I'm on /a/ with the amount of men who are scared of men on this board.

>> No.7528886

You can't, any male makes me think homoerotic thoughts no matter how non-sexual.

>> No.7528981

>>7528608
Just ditch the vtuber avatar

>> No.7529060
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i think it's the way they posture themselves, they look like men but they act like females. they should have a more serious expression, focus, and not all of them have to be these hunking thicc necked dudes the belong in some yaoi doujin crap.

>> No.7529390

>>7528608
You could stop being a faggot, but I know that's impossible with how much cock you suck.

>> No.7529826

>>7528608
They have to be homoerotic to attract female viewers.

>> No.7529987

>>7529060
>the buff vtubers look too gay
>the skinny vtubers look too gay
>the normal vtubers look too gay
What the fuck doesn't look gay to you fags? Why do you have cock on the mind for so long?

>> No.7530047

>>7529987
Looking at men is gay.

>> No.7530070

>>7529987
Girls because I'm too unsecure about my sexuality

>> No.7530085

>>7528608
its just how men are. women can be touchy feely and stare at each others eyes for hours and still love cock, yet straight men feel homosexual by things like this.

>> No.7530173

>>7529987
Don't push them too hard. They'll leave the closet when they're good and ready.

>> No.7530197

>>7528654
Bingo.

>> No.7530989

>>7528608
be entertained, close stream when they inevitably pander to fujos

>> No.7531528

>>7528608
you don't.
make it more homoerotic.

>> No.7531613

>>7531528
based

>> No.7531803

>>7529060
this. they're designs either look super effeminate or just really hairy and bulky.

>> No.7531882

how to make female vtubers less yuribait?

>> No.7531884

doesn't this dude awkwardly hit on the other talents

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>>7528608
How are male vtubers homoerotic? I grew up watching Minecraft YouTubers who were practically vtubers due to how they only used their in-game avatar to represent themselves and there was nothing homoerotic about it. It's literally just another male YouTuber.

This is the same bullshit that LGBT faggots do where two men fictional or not can't be friends or like each other's company without being gay. What the fuck is actually wrong with men nowadays.

>> No.7532225

>>7528608
Make them more homoerotic you fucking coward

>> No.7532255

>>7531908
Many people on this board are insecure about their own sexuality or are closet fags, please understand.

>> No.7532327

>>7528608
just don't be gay anon

>> No.7532394

>>7528629
>>7528872
I hate homosexuals purely because they threaten my accessible market share in the sexual market place, and because they broaden the accessible market share of my targeted participants(thereby reducing my overall value), not because I'm gay, retards.
I really think you niggers need to get a life

>> No.7535665

Fuck off with this 'LOL you're secretly gay' crap. It's obvious to anyone who looks which males look like faggots. Women literally cannot make a straight looking male because they keep adding earrings and other gay shit.

>> No.7535680

>>7535665
Hunted through the catalog to save the thread from getting bumped off just to announce to the world that you have feelings for men.

>> No.7535785

>>7535680
It's not hard to find new threads bro when half of them are generals.

>> No.7535837

>>7532394
Homosexual males have nothing to do with straight women and probably not (you) for that matter so they hardly hurt your chances of getting laid in any which way.

>> No.7536238

>>7532394
it's pretty unfortunate that you're this threatened by a group that makes up a tiny percentage of the population.

>> No.7536360

>>7535837
Fag hags are a scourge of the earth

>> No.7536405

>>7536360
The fuck? Fag hags aren't having sex with gay men. Gay men are repulsed by vaginas. To them gays are just accessories/pets. How in the fuck does that hurt your chances with women? And in what situation would you ever want to pursue a woman who drools pver 3D men kissing?

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>>7528608
I'd watch a male if he was skeletor.
I watch Ex Albio sometimes cause he has cool armor.

>> No.7537764

>>7528608
turn every single one of them into Ugly Bastard. that will both make them not homo and relatable.

>> No.7537775

>>7528629
certainly not by falsely implying that they fear you

>> No.7537855

>>7529060
vtubing is inherently feminine because having an avatar is about your appearance. A man would just stream as himself. Male vtubers will always be gay

>> No.7538011

>>7537855
/thread

>> No.7538066

>>7532394
dumb femoid

>> No.7538141

>>7529987
I don't consume nearly enough fujo content to associate bishounen designs with homos but bara designs are just always so incredibly gay looking I can't even. The only exception might be Maimoto. I blame gachimuchi.

>> No.7538235

Maimoto was literally drawn by a homo. I laugh at anons who call designs in Nijisanji gay then praise Yashiro and Maimoto for being bastions of heterosexuality while they look like your average bara porn protag.

>> No.7538251

>>7538141
Bara literally comes from a JP word for gay (Bara = rose, similar to how yuri = lily, except bara is kind of offensive so people don't really use it anymore), so that's to be expected. Even Maimoto was drawn by a gay artist. In fact, in Japan bishounen is just outright not a gay stereotype, and "big burly man = gay" is, hence why most gay stuff aimed at gay men (geikomi, rather than BL) is full of them.

>> No.7538296

>>7538235
Maimoto make straight women wet
Gay is just better

>> No.7538316

>>7538235
Lmao yeah, if you look at his Twitter its full of bara porn and LITERALLY the first line of his bio is "homo desu".
I know there's some values dissonance as to what the average gay man looks like between Japan and America, but sometimes it gets silly.

>> No.7539551

I think all the swole buff bara models look badass and cool. I really like the designs of bobon, oga, aruran etc. They're huge kings and it keeps me doing my reps so I can one day stand at the top with them

>> No.7540215

>>7532394
Wtf ? What kind of femoid logic is that ?

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Why western men are so insecure around anime prettyboys? You are exactly like women. They are also jealous of cute anime girl vtubers and don't watch them.

>> No.7541466

>>7529987
Anime art style isn't the best as at depicting masculinity.

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>>7541466
Sometimes they get it right

>> No.7542796

>>7541333
that's my boyfriend in the picture

>> No.7543371

Its ok when girls do it but only a faggot would hide his face behind a fucking cartoon.

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How do make male vtubers more homoerotic?

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>>7528608
Make them western.

>> No.7543810

>>7543773
>engineer gaming
engineer gaming

>> No.7543850
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>>7541674
Sometimes they get it so right it hurts.

>> No.7543923

>>7528608
I mean, the fact accent and cool guy persona is pretty gay. Yes, I'm aware it's a double standard between male and female vtubers. Nevertheless, male vtubers are gay. The just exude gay energy. It can't be helped.

>> No.7543945

>>7537855
Reminder that while you sit here alone on 4ch, Kuzuha is fucking a fag. (You)r oshi definitely had a male vtuber cock keep her company at night too.

>> No.7543962

>>7543923
wow i can't believe we have an anon on here who's watched every male vtuber in existence

>> No.7544004

Name 1 male vtuber that doesn't look gay

>> No.7544015

>>7544004
virtual gorilla

>> No.7544055

>>7544015
his voice sounds gay tho

>> No.7544086

>>7543810
I'd simp so hard

>> No.7544120

>>7543945
Why do you think I care who vtubers have sex with

>> No.7544142

>>7544055
What's your logic there? Gorillas voice sounds like he pisses pure T.

>> No.7544295

>>7544142
no logic, I'm just messing with you
... but he does sound gay tho

>> No.7544399

I smell a raging homosexual in this thread.

>> No.7544559

>>7544004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtMPM9Mk8h8

>> No.7544651

>>7544295
Give me a non-gay sounding male vtuber for reference

>> No.7544701

>>7541333
Because we wish we could pull off the look

>> No.7544711

>>7528608
Start by being heterosexual and you'll immediately stop seeing them in a homoerotic way

>> No.7544733

>>7544015
Gorilla's voice makes me cum ergo he sounds gay
t. average holofag

>> No.7545019

>>7541674
That's pretty gay

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>>7537855
Privacy, this Niji hasn't been doxxed and every female vtuber who has met him says he's incredibly hot irl.

>> No.7545110

>>7544399
That's just me, sorry

>> No.7545831

>>7537592
Didn't know that K-SUWABE uses 4chan

>> No.7545865

>>7528608
With more shounen styled models.

>> No.7545924

>>7531884
I'm fairly certain he outright said he was a virgin in a collab with Hana and another ID male I think.

>> No.7545986

>>7538235
>Maimoto was literally drawn by a homo
That's kinda obvious. He's total bearmode bara design even moreso than Belmond.

>> No.7546137

>>7544004
Roberu. Even his gayest costume he's still a Chad pounding Animare poon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wD9QFjQBxY

>> No.7547567

anime is inherently feminine, because it is a product of asia after the war, the war were they lost the right to their dignity

>> No.7548967

>>7543850
Every time I see Cute Girl.png I laugh. Thanks anon.

>> No.7549039

>>7528608
There's nothing gay about him. He doesn't really have any sex appeal at all even. There's just something gay about you.

>> No.7550589

>ITT, a bunch of thin necked weeb betacucks who are only looking at male vtubers from the pov of the male gaze and not taking into account the female gaze
stop being incels

>> No.7551220

>>7543850
Deep voice or no? everyone after kira sucks at the little boy voice.

>> No.7551254

>>7543945
Kuzuha is straight as a board. Don't let the fujo pandering he and kanae do fool you.

>> No.7551315

>>7545063
Why would they say he's ugly anon? are you retarded?

>> No.7551348

>>7528608
You can't. Male vtubers are gay and the only reason anybody would watch them is if they too are gay.

>> No.7551380

>>7551348
Tfw
>Straight as an arrow
>Still watch Aruran and more than half of the other stars
Idk dude.

>> No.7551444

>>7550589
They feel threatened by the sight or voice of another guy, cause/make constant drama, think any interaction between males is gay even though that's what they do here 24/7. /vt/ really has a lot of closet homo's that CLEARLY lack testosterone.

>> No.7551739

>>7537855
I don't understand this logic.

>> No.7551862

>>7550589
But what if I'm a homo who wants more homo vtubers.

>> No.7551905

I want more big muscular tubers.
I hate how Holostars is just skinny twinks.

>> No.7552024

>>7551444
Sounds like you are projecting. Can't admit that you are gay? Do you watch male vtubers?

>> No.7552046

>>7551905
Aruran isn't a twink and Oga is pretty damn lean. Besides they're "idols" the skinny pretty boy looks was to appeal to fujos.

>> No.7552067

>>7552046
Neither of them have the big muscle brain look, Belmond is a good example of what I want more off.

>> No.7552083

>>7552024
>>7551380 (me)
I don't look at a dude and get turned on if that's what you're asking. Least I'm not some fag that's afraid of other dudes.

>> No.7552086

>>7552067
>Belmond is a good example of what I want more off.
no one has the voice for it and if they do, they're already making high 5/low 6 figures as a voice actor for anime dubs, games, and book narration

>> No.7552105

>>7552067
You need a deep and smooth voice to pull that off and most dudes that do vtubing don't have that.

>> No.7552115

>>7552083
You avoided the question. Do you watch male vtubers?

>> No.7552122

>>7552046
does 'fujoshi' just mean 'woman' to you guys?

>> No.7552162

>>7552115
I didn't you stupid motherfucker. Read.
>>7552122
What woman that isn't a fujo going to watch vtubers?

>> No.7552185

>>7528608
None.

>> No.7552195

>>7552162
Ok, so you do watch them. Are you male?

>> No.7552224

>>7552162
female goslings, aunties. see harusaki air, kishido temma, and for a bigger name a fair portion of fuwa minato's fans are yumejos.

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>>7552086
>>7552105
I don't care I just want something nice to look at.

>> No.7552251

>asking /vt/ if they watch male vtubers like it's some kind of a gotcha question
you really only have 1 line, don't you?

>> No.7552272

>>7552251
He's actually retarded. I'll stop feeding him (you)s now.

>> No.7552299

>>7552251
Are you implying its ok to do so?

>> No.7552313

>>7552272
just sort of weird because you (assuming you're the pizza papa watcher) even said you watched them in your first post, i don't understand what he thinks he's doing

>> No.7552320

>>7552232
>opens mouth
>nasally mid 20 soemthing suburban white weeb noises
>uhhhhmm uhm, well ac-actually, i've never even held hands with a g-g-girl before...
>audible inhaler going off on mic
>sorry, my anxiety worsens my asthma, heh heh

>> No.7552340

>>7552232
we need Belmond Banderas (CV: Kanae Channel)

>> No.7552361

>>7552313
Yea, I don't get wtf he's trying to go for.

>> No.7552505

>>7528608
First, stop being so gay that looking at men immediately makes you think of homo shit
There is no second step

>> No.7552569

>>7552505
bro, these niggas be out n all sayin are uh are uh infront of thousands and you tellin me that shit fly straight? sheeeiiit

>> No.7553698

>>7552320
How come every time male vtubers are brought up, white men/western weebs are brought up? No one cares about them and no one is watching them. This is japanese male territory.

>> No.7553716

>>7553698
>This is japanese male territory.
YWNBAJ

>> No.7554477

>>7553698
>japanese
>male
pick one

>> No.7554600

>>7552320
kek

>> No.7555219
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How gay is Kanae? So gay fucking him is straight? Are the people who say he's too cute to be a guy coping, for their last shreds of heterosexuality have been torn away by this evil, evil man?

>> No.7555299

>>7555219
Kanae is straight as fuck, he only plays up the homo shit for the fujobux.
The only one I remember being canonically gay is Akina, he mentioned reading BL and Shota porn in highschool.

>> No.7555395

>>7555219
He is 200% straight, he talks about buying hentai/being subscribed to lewds magazines and when you look them up they're all females

>> No.7555452

>>7555219
He's straight but if you don't want to fuck him there's something wrong with you, regardless of your gender.

>> No.7555544

>>7555452
Based

>> No.7555546

Stop making ikemen and be more interesting with it. I feel like guys have more leeway with design than girls do but nobody wants to try.

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>>7552320
Imagine the voice that comes out of this.
Now watch his stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lrBd-KMRI

>> No.7555754

>>7555633
Wtf? Where is the cravat even attached to?

>> No.7555758

>>7528654
On top of this, CHARACTERS!!!

Girls can get away with being vtubers with only the character of:
>Am girl
and simpy guys will flood their page with tens of thousands of subscriptions, so long as she (her avatar) looks and sounds convincingly female.

As a guy, you don't get the pussy privilege. You can't just be
>Am cute guy tee-hee
and get the same results as
>Am cute girl tee-hee

You have to imagine, as a guy, what would make you want to watch a male vtuber?
After scrolling through some examples in my mind that might catch my interest, this stood out to me:
>Talks like a pirate, looks like a pirate, uses pirate words/lingo, basically larps as a pirate 24/7
Then just replace "pirate" with almost anything: Cowboy, old-timey british inventor, samurai, ancient greek philospher, middle-eastern buddhist monk, etc.
You can't just showcase yourself and get the clicks, unless yourself happens to have a cute face and fat tits. As a guy, you have to showcase your skills, and what you can do. Flex the creativity, flex the acting chops, flex the historical knowledge, just do SOMETHING to play an interesting character on-screen and I'll watch. Play the role of "generic soft-spoken husbando #247" and I sleep.

>> No.7555806

>>7555758
All the successful males don't stick to kayfabe like this, in fact the only one I can think of is Mayuzumi Kai and his kayfabe is a hacker

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>>7528654
Badasses would still make my dick hard, there's no problem in sinning a little bit anon.

>> No.7556570

>>7555758
you're describing a cartoon character, not a vtuber. no one watches streamers for pirate kayfabe.

>> No.7556753

>>7556570
>you're describing a cartoon character
RP channels exist. Youre probably not familiar with them.

This issue isnt a roleplay issue, its a charisma personality issue.

>> No.7556798

>>7556753
>RP channels exist
woodworking channels also exist, doesn't mean it'll translate over to vtubers.

>> No.7556812

>>7556753
Every single thing in your post was about roleplay...

>> No.7558635

>>7556812
>your post

>> No.7558786

>>7555758
So which vtubers do you like that fit into this category?

>> No.7559219

>>7555299
not sure why but you saying 'canonically' about real life homosexuality is really funny

>> No.7559266

>>7528608
They just gay.

>> No.7560235

>>7555546
>I feel like guys have more leeway with design than girls do but nobody wants to try.
this is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXIDoatLCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXIDoatLCk

>> No.7560455

>>7560235
This guy has videos about success and self promo and whatever while getting 400 views

>> No.7561060

>>7528608
I don't know if you can and its a big reason why male vtubers just aren't that popular. I mean, just look at the numbers that Holostars put up. Much lower than the girls.

>> No.7561105

>>7561060
Yagoo's pets are not the norm for male vtubers.

>> No.7561248

>>7561060
>holostars as only reference for male vtubers
ngmi

>> No.7561458

>>7528654
I argued about something like this long ago and a bunch of fags told me that shit wouldn't sell compared to the generic bishonen anime guy look

>> No.7561524

>>7555754
His pecs

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>>7541674
eyepatch "old" dudes are pretty cool

>> No.7561570

>>7561105
>>7561248
Are there any others? The main Hololive branch only has girls. Same with EN and ID as well. Hololive doesn't have any other males besides them and they don't do that well.

>> No.7561607

>>7561458
people are under that impression because the more relevant male chuubas have ikemen/bishie adjacent designs
or 'haha funny' like peanuts-kun, gorilla

>> No.7561741

>>7551220
Mashiro has a very good trap voice. Like, Kira was good but I could tell it was a man doing falsetto. Mashiro sounds like a slightly tomboyish girl or MAYBE a shota. About on par with a woman doing a shota voice, but the roommate is definitely male.
>>7551315
No, but they could just not comment on his appearance
>>7552162
>What woman that isn't a fujo going to watch vtubers?
You know not all otaku women are fujos, right? Fujos want the boys to fuck, plenty of women just want to fuck the boys themselves. Equating them is like saying all waifufags are /u/fags, it just isn't true.
>>7560235
>western male chuuba
>gimmick design
>no views
Every time.
>>7561458
Bishounen will sell. Badass muscular men will sell. Shotas and traps will sell. Literally anything will sell, they just have to get their name out there. But Hololive is female only, and a lot of people are convinced that's just how vtubers are, so the market doesn't recognize them. By the time NijiEN debuts their males they'll have enough of a core fanbase (rather than a subset of bored Holo fans) that the males will do just fine.
>>7561570
Nijisanji, anon. their 2 most popular chuubas are male, and their males do about par with the females in all their international branches. It's only Hololive where males are massively less successful, for obvious reasons.

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eh guys let's be honest, male fags are just disgusting. End of the story.

>> No.7562109

>>7561832
ogey

>> No.7562113

>>7561741
>Nijisanji
Nijiwhat? Never heard of them.

>> No.7562136

>>7562113
bofa deez nuts

>> No.7562167

>>7562113
dragon deez nuts

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>>7561570
Yeah men definitely aren't performing well anywhere right..

>> No.7562461

>>7562177
I was talking about vtubers. Why are you bringing up something other than Hololive? They aren't vtubers.

>> No.7562649

>>7560235
This guy is trying way too hard to be Munkey Jones, exact same tone and humor, only difference is he can't deliver jokes anywhere near as well.

>> No.7562860

>>7562461
i knew it, kanae channel IS real and i AM in a relationship with him

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>>7555546
>be more interesting with it
Except that you can get fun and interesting male chuubas without resorting to "haha quirky design xD" gimmick like indies or weird shit like pic related. Most famous Niji males like Kuzuha, Kanae, Kenmochi have majority male viewership despite bishonen designs, it baffles me how allergic westerners are to normal anime boys.

>> No.7563097

>>7562886
Even if they want to appeal to western sensibilities (ignoring that most weebs are fine with ikemen), you'd think they'd go for like, bara or an action movie protagonist bodytype and not the weird gimmick shit /wvt/ males peddle.

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>Cool character design
>Decently funny concept for a vtuber
>Entertaining
he's okay.

>> No.7563169

>>7560235
>it's another "male thinks that 'being loud' is a personality"
>not even 500 views

>> No.7563182

>>7528608
itt makes me understand why a lot of ENtuber indies used weird ugly ass designs instead of idk normal cute anime man. what kind of niggers got "filtered" by good looking anime boy on screen? I like girl chuubas I watch look cute too and got filtered with uggo girl designs.

>> No.7563220

>>7563121
>open stream
>LOL and destiny
>only people talking in his chat are VIPS and mods
Lmfao

>> No.7563300

Didn't read the thread, but Bonnivier is straight, as he said multiple times in his solo streams, and occasionally goes with the gay flert in collabs to get a reaction from audience. Reza from his branch is an actual bi who flirts with everything that moves.

>> No.7563333

>>7563121
>Lord Commander Chaos
Could he even even more generic name?

>> No.7563348

>>7562177
Looks like Hololive does better which proves my point. Males just can't cut it compared to the girls.

>> No.7563386

>>7563182
There's a reason all the well performing male vtubers arent ugly gimmickshit. They're all normal anime guys.
>>7562886
It's not westerners it's people who don't watch anime so they're confused at how anime boys look.

>> No.7563461

>>7563097
I don't know how it got to this point but most posters on this board don't like anime, especially the ones that try and become vtubers themselves. Now that I write it down I understand, actually. They're ironic weebs and are embarrassed that they like the anime aesthetic. There's no time in life to be embarrassed of the things you like, and if they actually went outside they'd realize normalfags love anime now. It's a feedback loop of being embarrassed, hiding your interest, leading you to believe it's even more embarrassing than it actually is, and so on.

>> No.7563490

>>7559219
Leave me alone, I was sleepy.

>> No.7563500

>>7563121
>no face
Really?

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>>7563461
>I don't know how it got to this point
Come on, I mean I don't hate on them personally but we all know how exactly.

>> No.7563579

>>7563220
>LoL
Nothing wrong with that. I kinda like Vtubers who play competive games. Cali playing strive is fun to watch too.
>Destiny
That is worrisome tho... He always made Lily Pichu's videos unbearable.

>> No.7563607

>>7563461
They aren't even embarrassed, they straight up don't watch it.

>> No.7563610

>>7563461
I haven't watched anime in over 20 years. I bought a Slayers subbed VHS tape at Suncoast Video once. That is all the anime I've seen. Anime sucks.

>> No.7563623

>>7563220
Don't be a dick anon.

>> No.7563627

>>7563579
I haven't even looked at the dude but I imagine they were talking about Destiny the game.

>> No.7563683

>>7563627
NGL that's not much better if he was.

>> No.7563685

>>7563500
Yeah, the design's ok but eventually western chuubas need to learn full face mask designs don't work. If your live2d can't emote you might as well be a regular streamer without a facecam.

>> No.7563760

>>7563500
I don't get why they keep doing this, just stream with a PNG at that point.

>> No.7564026

>>7563386
Anons completely failed to realize how great having a good, attractive design and good, fun personality is as a combination for a vtuber. It means you'd get both male viewers who watch you as a streamer AND female/fag viewers who fawned and paypigged over you. It's how it works for a lot of Niji males who got both large number of male audience (male-majority in most cases) and also a large amount of shippers, ship arts, and female paypigs.

>> No.7564073

>>7564026
Males do not watch male vtubers unless they are....well, you know.

>> No.7564091

>>7550589
Are you retarded dude, the question was how to make male vtubers less gay and it was asked by presumably a femoid. Calling people incels makes you sound like a huge faggot by the way sorry to say.

>> No.7564099

Why do burgers always try to push their degenerate shit on jap male vtubers. Only EN male vtubers are gross homos.

>> No.7564168

>>7564091
so what's the consensus is every woman a fujo or not

>> No.7564212

>>7564091
>it was asked by presumably a femoid
How in the world did you come to that?

>> No.7564326

>>7564073
I'd agree with you a year ago when I knew jack shit about chuubas but nowadays I find that genuinely extremely hard to believe. A lot of females and fags are watching female chuubas. Vtubers as a subculture is niche enough even in Japan that there won't be enough nip homosexual vtuber fans to constitute the majority let alone entire male audience of Niji males.

>> No.7564339

>>7560235
Randon design is a better example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyLXDjCKxeU

>> No.7564419

>>7564212
Maybe read the thread and you'll figure it out
>>7532394
This is OP

>> No.7564572

>>7564419
Reads more like bait to me.

>> No.7564990

>>7564339
Barafags are the worst probably.

>> No.7565009

>>7564339
Randon is based and I hope he applied to NijiEN. Mostly just because I want a EN zatsudan king.

>> No.7565010

>>7564073
Kuzuha the guy who gets mocked for having earrings and doing fujo bait has a 70% male audience. Granted he got a 10% female increase in a little over a year but still, majority male.

>> No.7565227

>>7565010
Kuzuha is an outlier, he was literally top 10 in apex even before vtubing and did boosting shit. Dudes watch people who are the best at a game, especially kids.

>> No.7565341

Bon and Hana date stream was the comfiest shit ever. And the straightest shit ever.

>> No.7565344

>>7565227
What about Kenmochi who fucking sucks at games

>> No.7565400

>>7536238
If a gay dude is very presentable and attractive to women (which is a large percentage of gay people based on factors such as income, fashion, hygeine, etc) theyre going to be much more threatening to that anons chances with women versus another presumably average straight male. It makes sense in a way

>> No.7565411

>>7565344
>he doesn't know mochi was both a cs:go and pubg pro and that he coded half of valorant from scratch
actually ngmi

>> No.7565497

>>7565400
How would a straight woman date a gay man???

>> No.7565520

>>7565497
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)

>> No.7565547

>>7565344
>Kenmochi
>Age 16
>Inexperienced kohai vibes
>Under 6 feet
Literally only homos watch kenmochi.

>> No.7565552

>>7565520
If you think this is a normal enough occurrence that your chances of finding a girlfriend is impacted I implore you to seek therapy

>> No.7565596

>>7565227
>top 10 in apex before vtubing
Apex Legends release date was Feb 4 2019
Kuzuha debuted on Mar 8 2018

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>>7565547
Can confirm I want to have sex with this boywife and destroy his high schooler ass

>> No.7565652

>>7565596
During apex then fag, I know he got in trouble for being toxic on a main account with his boosting friends, so i just assumed it happened before he started vtubing.

>> No.7565761

>>7565652
He was an indie who got a fraction of the views he's getting now.

>> No.7565831

>>7565227
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about, Kuzuha is decent at FPS but never even reached Pred rank in Apex unlike newer members like Selen or Lauren.
https://wikiwiki.jp/nijisanji/Apex%20Legends%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81

>> No.7565863

>>7565831
He's reading matome blogs again

>> No.7565878

>>7565761
You're not understanding what I'm saying tard, he is really fucking good at apex, that attracts a way bigger following of normalfag try hards who want to imitate him.
He played and won in the fucking FFL select and played with Genburten, he's not some shitter and he has big regular dude streamer vibes.
Someone like kanae is 100% just a feminine homo/fujo/female neet baiting fake homo.

>> No.7565884

>>7565009
>zatsudan king
He's boring, the standards for EN are just that low.

>> No.7565926

>>7565831
>>7565878

>> No.7565936

>>7565878
>he is really fucking good at apex
No he isn't.

>> No.7565957

>>7565878
If you watched that match with Genburten he got carried lol but you obviously didn't watch it. No one on earth is saying Kuzuha is really fucking good at apex, not even his Chronoir fujos, not even his male viewers who are apex fags.

>> No.7565989

>>7565878
the whole point of watching kuzuha channel, anonchama, is to witness his ungabunga single braincell plays and random mildly inflammatory statements on occasion. he's not shit at games but if people want to watch someone actually good they'll go watch someone else.

>> No.7566085

>>7565957
Anon watched Hololive girls play Apex and then compared them with KZH pls andastand

>> No.7566365

>>7564990
>probably.
youre not even confident in your beliefs

>> No.7566918

>>7563548
HoloEN was a mistake.

>> No.7566960

>>7565957
Ironically enough, there are actual cute girl vtubers better at Apex than Kuzuha who are way less successful.

>> No.7566965

>>7563610
Based

>> No.7567165

>>7565878
>really fucking good at apex
Apex isn't even his best game
He was most skilled at MOBAs but he doesn't even play them that often

>> No.7567288

>>7551315
If that's the case they would avoid commenting on his appearance like they do with other vtubers, yet many have gone out of their way to say he's hot.

>> No.7567305

>>7566960
VSPO...

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>>7567305

>> No.7567367

>>7567288
Yeah, the only reason we know he's hot is because the girls keep saying they're nervous over how hot he is when they're doing 3D stuff. Other guys get no such comments.

>> No.7567449

>>7567367
>ywn get princess carried by Kanda like Gundou
Why even live?

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>>7567449
Imagine.

>> No.7567668

>>7567449
>ywnb even half the man Kanda is
Why live?

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>>7528608
>*fucks onis all day*

>> No.7567803

>>7528608
Cosplay men are cringe faggots. Same difference, no one believes this bullshit you are just embarrassing yourselves. Your fantasy is gay as fuck.

>> No.7567823

>>7567737
>supaachatto arigatogozaimasu

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>>7567737
>>7567823

>> No.7567940
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not all males are equal

>> No.7567983
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>>7567940
You're damn right they aren't.
(Chaika is a straight man btw, to keep it on thread topic)

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>>7567983
Chaika lives a good life

>> No.7568013

>>7565497
Either she wouldnt know he's gay and would just wait for him to make the first move while ignoring other guys, or theres this thing where girls fake date hot gay dudes for them to cover up being gay to the family

>> No.7568019

>>7567983
I can't believe you're endorsing the legendary nijisanji bullying.
>ywn get punched by Chaika

>> No.7568080

>>7568013
Do straight men really believe this

>> No.7568115

>>7568013
>thing where girls fake date hot gay dudes for them to cover up being gay to the family
The gay dude should just find a lesbian in that case. Kill 2 birds.

>> No.7568139

>>7568080
I dont really care, if shes not into me I just move on, but some guys might. Theres a lot of insecurity in dating. Also overlooked the possibility that the anon in question was a woman whos constantly attracted to gay men lol

>> No.7568189

>>7567737
>Rakes in fujobux with kanae who is straight as a board
>Fucks oni in his free time.
Why is kuzuha such a chad

>> No.7568453

>>7552320
https://streamable.com/135wi8

>> No.7568475

>>7568453
holy shit

>> No.7568498

>>7568453
Ok I laughed

>> No.7568960

>>7568453
Apply to NijiEN male wave 2 and do enjou review streams

>> No.7569113

>>7565009
Oh god now I hope he's there so bad. Do they get the option to keep their models? Or is it only if they get scouted?

>> No.7569130

>>7569113
Kuzuha is the only scout who got to keep his model. All others didn't.

>> No.7569396

>>7555219
We are talking abiut a person who literally asked people for some JAV sauce On twitter, only to get answer directly from the actress herself.

>> No.7569528

>>7528608
We can't, that's how they get their audience.

>> No.7569558

>>7564073
This might be surprise you, but some people just watch male vtuber in the same way they watch 3D male streamer normally

>> No.7569602

>>7569558
No actually, everyone who's watching male vtubers are watching with their dicks in their hands.
Source: Me.

>> No.7569661

>>7568453
Unironically this sounds more confident than the majority of EN males.

>> No.7569765

>>7568453
Not nearly nasal enough

>> No.7569785

>>7568453
faggot

>> No.7569851

>>7568453
Damn, that's a deep voice.

>> No.7569890

>>7569851
Do you not talk to many men?

>> No.7569908

>>7569851
It's not deep lol

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>>7569396
What are you talking about?
Kanae even has the Bible and 超エロ (don't google if you're at work) bookmarked because he's a good seiso angel

>> No.7570019

>>7570000
Of course he has the bible bookmarked he used to be a priest, duh.

>> No.7570044

>>7569890
>>7569908
Sorry, I meant to say: relative to the model.

>> No.7570093

>>7570044
what do you mean, thats literally me irl

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>>7570019
Of course, how could I forget
His zatsudan sermons are really enriching

>> No.7570291

>>7570000
>taskbar on the side
Holy shit he's disgusting

>> No.7570347

>>7552162
Yumejoshis Anon, Yumejoshis

>> No.7570553

>>7568453
>https://streamable.com/135wi8
I Respect the effort you put in for a joke Anon

>> No.7570589

>>7570000
Honestly that is slightly surprising, honestly wondering why he does have the bible bookmarked, unless it is some completely unrelated site called "Bible" which would be even weirder

>> No.7570617

>>7570589
It's the logitech logo

>> No.7570728

>>7570589
To balance out the horny

>> No.7571108

>>7532394
Based retard

>> No.7571174

>>7565227
he didnt even play fps games before vtubing. he played league

>> No.7571194

>>7571174
Anon has access to the hidden Kuzuha lore documents, he actually was behind the creation of Crazy Raccoon.

>> No.7571200

>>7568453
Prepared to get groomed

>> No.7571819

>>7567165
>>7571174
>league
Toxic gamer arc

>> No.7572587

>>7571194
Or much more likely, he doesn't even watch streams and is also a massive faggot and likely a nigger.

>> No.7572653

>>7572587
You didn't have to say that, we already knew.

>> No.7572853

It's mostly the voice, you genuinely need a good voice to be a streamer. You think people are going to be watching the stream the entire time? Its going to be minimized at most and if your voice sucks and you can't talk a coherent setence without going uhhhg umhsfhd people will tune out.
People focus too much on the design and gimmick before developing an actual personality and getting a good mic

>> No.7576053

>>7528608
women watch them too

>> No.7576202

>>7576053
But anon, all women are fujoshi...

>> No.7576450

https://youtu.be/qJQ9llsnJqk
let's just watch this handsome dude playing kino game

>> No.7576503

>>7576450
Why is he breathing like a smoker

>> No.7577677

>>7528608
be gay af is part of their charm easiest and safest fujoshi bait companies can do

>> No.7582752

>>7572853
You can have a great manly voice but if you're using a female avatar, you're a colossal faggot and part of the problem.

>> No.7582809

>>7582752
No, babiniku are based.

>> No.7583581

>>7528608
Give them an avatar that's not a handsome man, and have them NOT pander to shippers or lewdness. This of course means they'll have to rely on merit. Good luck with that.

>> No.7583599

>>7583581
>Give them an avatar that's not a handsome man
Immediate sabotage.

>> No.7583863

>>7583581
someone tell me why westoid straight men are so repelled to cute anime boys in ways westoid women and fags definitely NOT to cute anime girls.

>> No.7584111

>>7583581
Okay, and let's stop making all the females be cute girls too.

>> No.7584208

>>7583581
I wish there were a variety of male streamers that pandered in the way and as much as 90% of this board assumes they do.

>> No.7584859

>>7583581
>not a handsome man
No thanks

>> No.7584975

>>7566365
It's a toss up between them and androfemfags.

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>>7584859
>>7583599
>>7583863
What's your definition of handsome? I'm thinking of debuting and can do my own model. What if someone debuted looking like

>> No.7585059

>>7584975
what the fuck is an androfem?

>> No.7585106

>>7585057
He's definitely handsome (and good taste, hope that anime turns out good)

>> No.7585149

>>7585059
Giving you some cursed knowledge here anon.

Fags who think twinks should take HRT to get breasts and look more "feminine". They aren't chasers in that they aren't attracted to women they're fags who get off to men with extremely feminine features, this includes muscle guys who are into gyno. They're incredibly obnoxious like footfags are.

>> No.7585198

>>7585149
Oh. Taking a fetish like that into real life isn't great, but eh. Definitely worse than bara though.

>> No.7585269

>>7585057
Not any of these anons but the example you gave is handsome.

>> No.7585482

>>7585057
Not my taste but fine looking guy. I feel that style is more attractive for people into bara but it's not off putting at all.

>> No.7586106

>>7568453
the fucking inhaler

>> No.7586432

>>7585057
To be entirely honest I have no problem with bara and it can be decently attractive design but from my experience some male ENtubers managed to "subvert" it into something repulsive for some reason. So it depends on the endproduct.

>> No.7586656

>>7585057
Thats actually good. Better than most male designs

>> No.7587010

>>7586656
>Better than most male designs
most male designs i see are generic anime protagonist or pretty boy in suits. how is "kinda buff-fat business man" better than those?

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>>7587010
Because this one was made for loli doujins

>> No.7587293

>>7567983
based beyond belief

>> No.7587317

>>7587275
You just know she loves being mating pressed by every kilo of that mans weight.

>> No.7587502

>>7528608
Less SHOULDERS and small eyes
More moe as fuck twinks

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>>7587275
Isn't the mangaka the same pervert who drew this
https://twitter.com/shiromanta1020/status/1379638013911650309?s=20

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skeleton vtuber
rts and EYE divine cybermancy streams
no pandering whatsoever
here's your hardmode

>> No.7588581

>>7588524
this would have worked back in 2010 when youtube and justin.tv were just getting started. not anymore.

>> No.7588631

Wish we got more variety in dudes, not just human dudes. A golem, a robot like Terminator, skeleton sorcerer/warrior, a cool anthro but it would quickly be taken over by the bad part of the furfag fandom.
An automata would be cool as well.

>> No.7588846

>>7588581
back in 2010 vtubers didn't exist in this format anon

>> No.7588962

>>7588631
How about a Gorilla?

>> No.7589018

>>7588846
......anon your reading comp reps...

>> No.7589076

>>7588631
There are examples of all of these in this thread and they're all shit. Stop projecting your comic book fantasies on to vtubers, it's not the same.

>> No.7590137

>>7569113
>Do they get the option to keep their models? Or is it only if they get scouted?
If Randon could pretty reuse the concept but have the artist make a different design. Or he could make something similar

>> No.7592005

>>7567449
Imagine holding a loli instead

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>There are examples of all of these in this thread and they're all shit. Stop projecting your comic book fantasies on to vtubers, it's not the same.

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