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75604489 No.75604489 [Reply] [Original]

Nijibros, you told me that Cover blacklisted dookiebird...

>> No.75604679

>>75604489
>homostars
yeah, hololive has still blacklisted her
tough luck

>> No.75605489

>>75604489
>stars
>no moom
kek

>> No.75605628

>>75604489
What is Wrestletuber 2024? Like a /hfz/ or Jermania thing?

>> No.75605631

>>75604679
>>75605489
>GOALPOST: MOVED

>> No.75605697

>>75604489
>Donki exposing gfe grifters like remilia nephys and fuyo by HAVING them ACCEPTING an EVENT with HOLOSTARS mALES in it.
phasebros and idolbros reaction ?

>> No.75605829

>>75605628
yeah basically

>> No.75605966

>>75605628
to be fair that was kino so this will be too

>> No.75606018

I doubt she was ever "blacklisted", Cover and Niji talents do often collab but I doubt Nijisanji would go nuclear and ruin so many friendships just to spite Doki, well at least not do it 3 times and make themselves look worse. If anything it was probably Cover's autism about perms.

>> No.75606078

>>75605697
>fuyo
>gfe
lol, lmao. but I am a little surprised to see remi

>> No.75606276

>>75606018
> I doubt Nijisanji would go nuclear and ruin so many friendships just to spite Doki,
What does this have to do with Cover blacklisting Doki or not, Kurosanji dont control who Cover do or do not blacklist and i dont think Cover ever blacklisted her the "drama" has nothing to do with them.

>> No.75606371

>>75606018
Nah, if Axel and Altare could have collabed as themselves rather than their PLs they'd have done that and chosen a game Holo had perms for. Cover clearly just wanted to avoid collabing with her until the drama died down.

>> No.75606491

>>75606371
>[headcanon]

>> No.75606502

>>75606276
>why would nijisanji block collabs with Cover if cover did something that seems like it's spiting them
I don't know nigger, tell me why it took pomu and Kiara that long to collab

>> No.75606548

>>75604489
Doki is saving the Ex-Prism girls

>> No.75606710

>>75604489
Thank God Ruze is smart and staying far away from this bitch. I'm disappointed in Shinri. Guy really changed after covering up his tits.

>> No.75606716

>>75606502
Because Nijisanji was blocking it, they even blocked Pomu from showing Kiara's video on stream for some reason
>but why did Nijisanji do it
Who the fuck knows? But it's pretty obvious by now that it was on their end

>> No.75606905

>>75606502
Pomu was working for Anykara at that point, Doki is a indie, wasnt it confirm that Anykara was the one blocking collabs with cover?

>> No.75606963
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75606963

>>75606276
I hope Riku cancels all future HoloxNiji collabs with Shiina and Okayu, Haachama and HSKW, Aruran and pizza family, Roberu and Niji jp guys as a result of this event. If Yagoo can't respect Riku by letting his talents mingle with dookieshit, then his jp talents getting punished for it is a fair price.

>> No.75607210

>COVER HAS HER BLACKLISTED!!!
>*Holostars steps forward*
>N-NO HOLOLIVE HAS HER BLACKLISTED!!!
How hard are Nijisisters clinging to that goal post they just moved?

>> No.75607402

>>75605631
am I the only one that read this in Jeff Steitzer's voice?

>> No.75607420

>>75606371
Holo never got helldivers perms though

>> No.75607828

>>75607420
This, i think Irys or Kronii? was talking about playing it on her own time she would have stream it if she could

>> No.75608002

>>75607828
IRyS, Kiara, Kronii, Mori and many others confirmed no perms, and also is sony, so probably they are never gonna get them unless they are desperate for a sponsor

>> No.75608007

>>75607420
Neither did most of the world. Thanks, Sony, you dumb fucking shitheads.

>> No.75608073

>>75607420
They'll never get them because Sony is in bed with Niji

>> No.75608129

I love how this turned out just like her Apex tournament

"Come watch guys, even Hololive is joining! A member from every Holo branch!"
>It's literally just Homos and IDs (and Mel kek) again

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>>75605697
Where is this logic of
>my GFE chuuba can't be in a huge collab with a couple of fruity males
You're either must be really insecure about a girl who doesn't know you exist or you're a proud advocate of Sharia Law.

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>>75607420
I wonder why...

>> No.75608246

>>75605489
>hololive en (female)
no actual gamers
>inb4 ame
cope

>> No.75608398
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75608398

>>75608163
Islam is right about women

>> No.75608457

>>75606018
>I doubt she was ever "blacklisted",
The entire argument sisters have been using have been "t-the Helldivers collab with legally distinct TSB means she's blacklisted by all of cover!", OP of which is openly mocking.
>I doubt niji would
They would. Even JP does it.

>> No.75608622

>>75604489
Why no Mumei?

>> No.75608638

>>75608129
And yet people will still watch. Sooooo....

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75608717

>>75604489
I hate nijiggers, but I hate homobeggars even more
I hate Doki now

>> No.75608757

>>75608638
Some will, not anyone that matters

>> No.75608787
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75608787

>>75608717
Quit being a fag

>> No.75608830

>>75608246
>wrestling game
>"game"
Ok this retard doesn't even know the game.

>> No.75608889

>>75608717
>now
But she has always collabed with the homos even as Selen

>> No.75608896
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75608896

I just think it's cringe that Hololive enjoyers take pride in the fact that their chuubas don't collab outside their 10 coworkers. (It also only highlights how little some of them stream.)

>> No.75608936

>>75608830
>game
Wrestling is REAL you subhuman faggot

>> No.75608975

>>75607420
Yeah, and my point is that they played Helldivers because they couldn't collab with Doki as Axel and Altare anyway so they figured they may as well play whatever and not worry about perms, not that they collabed with Doki as their PLs just so they could play Helldivers with her on stream.

>> No.75609035

>>75608622
Moom doesn't collab with boys and thus wouldn't get involved in an event like this.

>> No.75609040

>>75608975
>[headcanon]

>> No.75609057
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75609057

>>75604489
>big announcement
>collab with whos and homos

>> No.75609117

>>75608717
she wasn't forced to join, cucked retard

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75609180

>>75608889
She's free to do whatever she wants, but if she's gonna beg others to join her degeneracy, that's where I draw the line

>> No.75609185

>>75604489
So why does Ironmouse hate Doki?

>> No.75609236

>>75608717
don't worry, saya will find an excuse to drop out

>> No.75609239

>>75609035
>memoryholing her collab with Holostars
Anyway, she wouldn't be collabing with them anyway. All they do is create the fighters themselves on their own streams, and Doki has the AI fight with them.

>> No.75609285

>>75608717
She willingly did it to herself
Enjoy the cuck chair sayachud

>> No.75609369

>>75609185
Mouse is the face of vshojo and she can't be seen associating with doki if she wants to be in the good graces of Niji management.

>> No.75609494

>>75609239
>All they do is create the fighters themselves on their own streams, and Doki has the AI fight with them.
Wait that's it? that's fucking lame. Do they at least voice the AI when it's wrestling?

>> No.75609558

>>75609494
Nope

>> No.75609640

>>75609369
Buddy, that ship sailed the second they hired Kuro and Matara.

>> No.75609653

>>75609185
Retard just because she doesn't collab with Doki doesn't mean she hates Doki. Mouse is busy and even if she weren't, she's free to collab/not collab with whoever she wishes.

>> No.75609658

>>75609494
They get in VC and commentate

>> No.75609661

>>75609494
No, but they are also gonna part in the pre-fight trashtalking

>> No.75609672

>>75604679
There is no such thing as a branch blacklist. You can't be blacklisted by Hololive but not Holostars. None joined this because they don't want to.

>> No.75609770

>>75609494
If it's like the previous version of this Doki organized, not during the match but they'll do short interviews before and after each fight.

>> No.75609848

>>75609640
There's a difference between graduated members and an infamously terminated member.

>> No.75609944

>>75604489
>more Holostars than small-corpo girls
garbage event right from the start

>> No.75609976

>>75609369
Why do they need to be in the good graces of niji in the first place?

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75610060

>>75609944
retard

>> No.75610071

>>75609944
>sexpests can't sexpest with the hologirls
Well the small corpo girls will have to do then

>> No.75610114

>>75604489
Cum dump. These fucking homotrash don't get enough hate.

>> No.75610157

>>75610060
>indies and vshojo(male)
retard

>> No.75610182

>>75610060
Wait vshojo is joining, why did mouse abstain then?

>> No.75610188

>>75609976
Because the niji blacklist is actually real

>> No.75610191

>>75610060
>merryfaggot
why?

>> No.75610246

>>75609848
Graduated members who have spent half their time publicly trash talking their shitty former workplace.

>> No.75610262

>>75607420
They can play helldivers and appear on someone else's stream as long as they aren't streaming their perspective. They did the same with appearing on Lethal company streams before perms were available.

>> No.75610274

>>75610182
She literally has an event with fleshies on that day.

>> No.75610280

>>75610157
We both fucking know why you made the muh more holosturz post, shut the fuck up

>> No.75610310

>>75610182
It's literally just Zen. He wants to be the unity garbage dump or whatever, and obviously management can't strongarm him not to. Everybody else hates Doki.

>> No.75610378

>>75610060
>merry
boo

>> No.75610428

>>75610274
>mouse has an event that day
>doki says like 50 times that some people couldnt join because of scheduling conflicts

>> No.75610459

>>75606018
>niji are not that stupid its cover fault
You can't be more retarded than this sister

>> No.75610497

>>75609653
More like Mouse is seething that Doki is becoming "The face of vtubing unity" organically after all that money Gunrun spent buying streamer awards to tell normies that Ironmouse is the friend of every vtuber.

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75610509

>>75610262
Helldivers will soon be shit tier anyway. The game is litterally pulling out of Japan because Sony is retarded.

>> No.75610529

>>75610060
Based Dokibird exposing the clout chasers whores like Emma and Remi. This is why malaysian gfe vtubers should not be trusted, and the Wemi cuckfans dare to shill their whore in Yuyu's bait threads ? Now the ex-boobros are laughing back at you.

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75610531

>>75604489
>>75610060
Oh no no no nijibros how can this happen to us

>> No.75610554

>>75610274
Don't they just have to make a character?

>> No.75610639

>>75610280
Everything I said is factually correct, cope more faggot

>> No.75610646

>>75604679
>yagoo-san, hear me out. If you let the homos do this, that'll garner positive public opinion among the brainless gaijin, and it'll be good publicity.
>if it goes poorly, it won't affect our actual earners at all! it's brilliant! It's a gamble where we can't lose!
t. cover's NA management

>> No.75610684

>>75610554
No, they're streaming it. Several of the participants are only doing showmatches because they can't stay to appear on stream for the whole event.

>> No.75610701

>>75610497
anon mouse is far too beloved and popular. She also has the support of many streamers outside of vtubing.

>> No.75610716

>>75610509
Sony changed their mind, PSN account isn't required anymore

>> No.75610799

>>75610646
Nice fanfiction you got there. Can I read it on AO3?

>> No.75610900

>>75610646
>Doki said that Stars jumped in at the last minute and she had to hardcap the event to keep it 2 days.
I mean, that still means no blacklisting, and you have to be retarded to think the west is not a market.

>> No.75610955

>>75608896
>cringe
Yet they are thriving free from stupid drama from woketard Twitter and twitch

>> No.75610985

>>75604489
Are the sisters seething yet?

>> No.75610990

>>75610716
For players, yes. Game is STILL banned as of now, and they are applying it to other games.
Never doubt the retardness of Jap CEO, they will kill their own country before admitting they fucked up.

>> No.75611023

>>75610701
>non mouse is far too beloved and popular
She's almost a non-entity in the vtubing space. No chuuba ever talks about her. Pippa has way more of a presence than Mousey.
>She also has the support of many streamers outside of vtubing
Connor and?

>> No.75611091

>>75610985
of course, she's in their head rent free

>> No.75611116

>>75610955
>Free from twitter drama
RORU.
RUMAO.
I don't think there is a single being on the planet that is not on twitter and doesn't have drama. And I said being, even non-humans included.

>> No.75611142

>>75610716
Too late, it's already dead.

>> No.75611180

>>75611023
>t. vshojoke falseflagging as phasekek

>> No.75611292

>>75610900
You have to understand niji has abandoned the western market so they've instilled a cope into their fans that it's a lost cause with no money just because their fetid branch imploded

>> No.75611379

>>75611023
>Connor and?
otv, otk, qsmp, ludwig ecosystem and others. Honestly ahe spends most of her time with fleshies rather than vtubers.

>> No.75611393

>>75610900
>you have to be retarded to think the west is not a market.
I mean, it's mutually beneficial to both doki and cover at this point.
It's been almost half a year since the fiasco, and the way the dominos dropped, it seems almost everyone in the west sided with Doki.
Allowing the collab just builds goodwill at this point, with very little risk.
I would've been more impressed if they greenlit a collab the month that she got canned.

>> No.75611695

>>75609180
>implying Saya couldn't refuse the begging
you got abandoned

>> No.75611718

>>75611116
Proof? Don't tell me you gonna pull "gura pedobait", " Calli hated by Everyone", "ruffian won't watch fwmc anymore" Bullshit, no holo fans care lmao

>> No.75611722

>>75610985
Considering the amount of these posts and them specifically going after the Stars, yeah. Their baby neurons got activated again.

>> No.75611740

>>75605697
Wemi isn't GFE, she's retarded daughter/niece experience.

>> No.75611894

>>75610716
Lmao do you really?
they are just trying to find a new way to force it
Ghost of Tsushima will launch being blocked on all those countries Day1 because there they will force PSN link for the coop mode

>> No.75611904

>>75610188
You assume niji in its current state has the power to demand and enforce that, they're literally getting mocked left and right now.

>> No.75611986

>>75608896
You would've been aborted.

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>>75610955
Just ignore twitter freaks and make fun of the dramafags who show up in your chat, it's not that hard.

>> No.75612112

>>75611379
>grifter using her as pity virtue signaling
At this point i'm starting to understand
hy you retards are so fuckng easy, like those unicorn who think gfe vtuber Actually love you

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So where's Sayu? Oh, wait, scheduling conflict? KEK

>> No.75612364

>>75604489
>>75606018
Anyone reasonable would have told you Cover would wait for the drama to die down before making a decision.
>>75606276
There’s a chance Anycolor could threaten to block collabs on the JP side, but I guess even they aren’t that stupid and petty.
>>75608622
Tempus quite literally doesn’t talk to Mumei. It’s either her or them, and she’s not that interested in the wider vtubing community to begin with.

>> No.75612369

>>75612041
Holo has been doing that since forever, not just that but the entire woketard from the West which is why they run to niji, hell even gura won't use Twitter except for event once a year lmao

>> No.75612442

>>75611023
>Connor and?
Literally the entire top twitch sphere and several content creator communities in general like MCYT. Not everyone in it likes her (xqc), but they all know her and support her as a fellow creator. Notable examples are big MCYT and Latam streamers having entire armies defend her when people were shitting on her for her Game Awards win.

>> No.75612684

>>75604489
Mint doko? We gonna act now like Dookie was in the right when she won’t even acknowledge Sayu and Mint? Bullshit fucking grifter, good thing Hologirls at least know this and don’t bother with her

>> No.75612723

>>75612112
Go learn English first faggot

>> No.75612829

>>75612723
It's SEA hours now anon. The pagpags are going to come crawling out of their mudhuts.

>> No.75612952

>>75612684
Mint hates Holostars

>> No.75612955

>>75612723
>uhm what to do now i have no argument uhm English REEEE
Roru, rumao

>> No.75613056

>>75604679
The goalpost has been moved... Good job.

>> No.75613083

>>75612442
>literally grifter and typical Twitter virtue signaling

>> No.75613194

>>75612723
SEAkek hours, please understand

>> No.75613270

>>75604489
>no mint or Matara
Oh no Matara and pomu fag this just confirm they are part of the clique

>> No.75613317

>>75613083
>>75612112
Virtue signalling what exactly? Also why is anti unicorn seething at vshojo?

>> No.75613564

>>75613083
Is everyone that isn't Hololive (vtuber or not) a grifter to you?

>> No.75613582

>>75608073
It's less a "Sony is the number 2 shareholder of Anycolor" thing and more of a "Sony refuses to grant perms to any agency or individual in particular, and requires anyone who wants perms to accept the general blanket perms" thing. Cover refuses to take the general blanket perms, because they don't want to get Capcom'd again.

If it was a "Sony partly owns Niji" thing, do you really think they would have granted Doki perms for Helldivers?

>> No.75613678

>>75604489
>Axel is in the tourney officially and not his RM/PL
Seems like her friendship with Mumei is overinflated here in /vt/

>> No.75613770

>>75613678
Why would you think that?

>> No.75613827

>>75613317
>Virtue signalling what exactly?
Retardedanonchama you can't be serious asking this, "oh so sad the disabled chuuba and muh representation look at the struggle look at me i'm supporting this chuuba, gimme the brownie point and subs/follow" -every Twitter and content creator

>> No.75613856

>>75613770
Why isn't she joining then? The vtubers themselves aren't going to be playing the game, it's all AI battles.

>> No.75613866

>>75613582
Indies and corpos outside of Japan don't have much issue with perms and I don't think that Sony is gonna burn themselves (again) by copyright striking Doki's stream

>> No.75613959

>>75606716
In other words. Both people can't be fucked to deal with it for years but the moment the blue homo shows up it's actually that fucking easy working with a talent from the other company, even funnier considering that talent got unceremoniously fired recently.

Admit it. Both Kiara and Pomu claim they've been doing shit behind the scenes but clearly they didn't.

>> No.75614019

>>75613564
Is everyone really that dumb to you anon? Next time you will say drama tuber not doing it for view and water is wet

>> No.75614082

>>75607420
Considering how badly the recent Helldivers drama was handled? I wouldn't be surprised. Besides it's still ongoing.

>> No.75614122

>>75613678
>t.hreadwatcher

>> No.75614186

>>75611116
My ex doesn't use twitter. My parents/sister don't use twitter.

>> No.75614188

>>75613856
>Holos and Stars in the same digital space
lol
lmao
kek

>> No.75614236

holostars or hololive regardless, you have to admit this is a strange turn of events. looks like either cover's testing the waters and using stars as guinea pigs, or the blacklist was just bullshit

>> No.75614241

>>75613678
Nice try sister but mumei not joining because males

>> No.75614266

>>75613317
Likely just a phasefag seething

>> No.75614348

>>75610071
Projecting the moment of your uncle touching you as a child does not make every man a sexpest sister.

>> No.75614351

>>75613959
>but the moment the blue homo shows up it's actually that fucking easy working with a talent from the other company
It's almost as if... the block was coming from Cover's side.

>> No.75614359

>>75613827
I can't imagine someone like Asmongold wold care about getting brownie points for being nice to a disabled person. There's a lot of opportunistic leeches among the world of streaming, but it's not literally everyone, and it really can't be understated how many communities Mouse has interacted with/is friends with.

>> No.75614435

>>75610114
Your parents told me you're worth less than trash. I can see why.

>> No.75614447

>>75611116
Talking like a true zoomer retard, go back to watching TikTok videos, kid

>> No.75614524

>>75614236
Its not blacklist its avoiding drama/problem which is what holo successfully did after China fiasco

>> No.75614645

>>75614236
Most likely it was just a temporary ban to let things calm down. Maybe Axel will talk about it in his next stream.

>> No.75614653

>>75613678
No, just that she wants nothing to do with Holostars.

>> No.75614664

>>75614359
Okay you just that Retarded LMAO good luck with that

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>>75611740
a daughter dont lick your ears and make coomer asmr like this. you are a cuck, no if and buts if you accept her collabing with holostars en without throwing a tantrum on her chat or vods comments.

>> No.75614689

>>75606018
Your manager saying "hmm that girl is controversial lately because XYZ, maybe leave the collab a bit until it blows over" is not being blacklisted

>> No.75614700

>>75614188
I mean hey worked with JP. Kinda funny that used to be a norm for HoloEN but now HoloJP have no problem working around that with StarsJP. Monkey's paw in full effect.

>> No.75614709

>>75614236
Technically there was some big Apex(?) tournament that both Doki and Towa were part of before but that wasn't really a direct collab.

>> No.75614771

>>75614122
>>t.threadwatcher
Yeah. Thanks for proving it. It's overinflated here.

>> No.75614816

>>75614700
It only works for JP because JP has less retarded Unicorns. EN on the other hand...

>> No.75614847

>>75614771
It's the other way around, sister

>> No.75614863

>>75614351
No. Kiara literally does not give a shit and neither does Pomu and would rather admire each other at arm's length and play footsie on the table until EN management gets the hint.

But they didn't get the hint for nearly 2 years.

>> No.75615082

>>75614863
If there's one thing Kiara doesn't do, it's beat around the bush. If she wants something, she will hound management about it until she gets it.

>> No.75615689

>>75608717
Saya is exactly the kind of girl to pull a "parasocial fucks" on her fanbase.

>> No.75616071

Why are Corpofags like this?

>> No.75616151

>>75604489
She will never be able to collab with Mumei ever again. She will be a comfort woman in the homostar office until the end of days.

>> No.75616527

>>75616151
>Nijikek
>cuck fantasies
Like pottery

>> No.75616874

>>75610646
>Source: SDK Base 2007

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>>75613582
>doki, an independent content creator in canada
>perms

>> No.75618219

>>75615082
She blows hot air on stream but pussies out when confronted. If she truly wanted to get what she wanted she'd be getting it before the homos did.

>> No.75618626

>>75618219
Nope, she got the 3D live she wanted after chewing out management

>> No.75620711

>>75614351
>the block was coming from Cover's side
obvious fucking lies

>> No.75621493

>>75620711
Nah, it makes complete sense from a business standpoint.
The Holo girls are bigger than the Niji girls. Would be a stupid business move to expose your larger customer-base (fans) to the competitor's product.
The Niji boys are bigger than the Holo boys. What better way to grow your customer-base (fans) than to show your product off to the competitor's fanbase.

>> No.75622566

>>75610716
DYRBI

>> No.75622625

>>75621493
If that's the case, why was Kiara showing Pomu's bag on her stream fine but Pomu was blocked from showing Kiara's birthday message on stream?

The block was fucking obviously on Niji's end.

>> No.75623052

>>75621493
>The Holo girls are bigger than the Niji girls. Would be a stupid business move to expose your larger customer-base (fans) to the competitor's product.
>The Niji boys are bigger than the Holo boys. What better way to grow your customer-base (fans) than to show your product off to the competitor's fanbase.

But that's not how Niji thinks- the #1 rule at NijiEN is that only the favorites get to have nice things. When it was Pomu and Selen Holo wanted to collab with, they were blocked because Pomu and Selen were not favored children. When Altare wanted to collab with one of their golden boys, they changed their tune and lifted the ban.

>> No.75623161

>>75622625
The bag didn't have any Pomu imagery on it.
Meanwhile, Pomu had shown off Holo imagery multiple times on stream. During her room review streams, she showed a bunch of pictures of Holo merch people sent in.
And just because Kiara recorded something, doesn't mean Cover gave permission for it to be shown.

>> No.75623402

>>75623161
The worst of copes. I remember selen at the time being really, really fucking annoyed with Niji at how they kept blocking her from collabing with Ollie. They even had a stream scheduled before a mysterious sudden rugpull, which is exactly the MO for Niji.

>> No.75623462

>>75623052
>HoloEN girl & NijiEN girl want to collab
>Cover: "lol no we're not giving NijiEN free publicity"

>StarEN boy and NijiEN boy want to collab
>Cover: "We want to grow the boys, please let us leech from your large female fanbase"
>Niji: "Only if you allow the girls to collab too"
>Cover: "Ugh, fine, the boy's growth matters most"

>> No.75624039

>>75610646
DESU this is probably the closest to reality, if a bit exaggerated
It's highly unlikely that Cover holds any actual animosity towards Doki (especially after all the shit that's happened to her and the waves of support she has in the west), I doubt any of the talents and her have bad blood (unless of course Enna and Millie spread BS to Kiara during their trip, but that's speculation and I can't say if she'd even believe it), and we know that she's still on friendly terms with Moomer and a few Stars.
Regardless of what the unicorns say, the existence of Holostars is pretty inoffensive to the greater Hololive brand
Since we all but know for certain that Mooms and Donkler want to collab at some point, it's not hard to believe that Cover/Yagoo/the managers elected to allow some of the stars to participate in this with her to test the waters and gage reactions (from Holo fans, Dragoons, the western Vtubing market, sisters, Niji itself, etc...) to see if letting her collab with the main company (ie. Mumei)
Do I know for sure? Hell no! But it's a decent explanation
One thing's for certain, this effectively kills the 'She's publicly blacklisted' rrat dead, or at least a hard blacklist and something more along the lines of "she's involved with a bit of controversy with our main rival (putting it lightly) and it might stir shit if one of you collab with her publicly. Do it in your past life if you really want to" sort of thing. Clearly that's changed though

>> No.75624430

>>75609494
I know Hololive JP ad libbed their AI fights, which was ducking hilarious. I hope Doki incorporates that idea.

>> No.75624508

>>75624039
>Since we all but know for certain that Mooms and Donkler want to collab at some point
To be fair... do we? They rarely collaborated even as Selen/Mumei once all the blocks got lifted. It seems like a pretty off camera relationship that they don't really feel the need to flex.

>> No.75624863

>>75623402
Especially odd when you consider that Ollie was able to collab with Mika, but Selen was off limits.

>> No.75625211

>>75604679
>No you see malice is always the motive!
>Cover totally blacklisted her!
>Definitely isn't anything to do with the girls rarely collabing outside the agency!
There's a word to describe you yeast-infected vag's. Starts with an R and ends with a D.

>> No.75625309

>>75624863
Yeah, pretty much everything was allowed outside of the EN branches. Pretty sure Hoshikawa did some stuff with Haachama, Matsuri, and Shion in that timeframe as well. Maybe Anycolor decided it was too late to enact a block on the older branches but EN was a blank slate.

>> No.75626219

>>75605631
>>75613056
Holostars are Hololive after all, OP is just being a shitter. HOLOPRO AND DOKI UNITY

>> No.75626569

>>75614700
>Worked with JP
>7-8 out of top 10 HoloJP are unicorn-friendly
It works if you either no longer GAF about your viewerships or are the exception, I suppose

>> No.75627143

>>75623402
>>75624863
Yeah, that's the other thing- the fact that Holo was allowed to collab with every single other Niji branch doesn't make sense if the block was on Cover's side.

>> No.75627254

>>75624039
I mean, Cover probably wanted to wait until the main part of the bullshit calmed down before deciding everything. And I'm guessing the goodwill from her Selen days helped as well.

I'd honestly put more money down that Axel and Altare pushed on management so they could collab with their friend again. Like nothing against Mumei (seriously, I mean it, they're clearly good friends IRL), but TSB are pretty close to each other. Axel was definitely fucked up for a solid month after hearing about what happened, and Altare's collabed with Doki an extra time on his PL and I wouldn't doubt he was pissed as well about what went down.

>> No.75627450

Saya and Remi are the oddest Phase choices. Did not expect them at all.

>> No.75628562

>>75610990
It's not Jap CEO though, Sony's games division is running out of California and Sony corporate just lets them do their own thing. It's greedy, stupid Amerifats doing it in this case.

>> No.75628647

>>75628562
Cope. Americans don't even know what the fuck a hololive or nijisanji is.

>> No.75628707

>>75604679
OP said cover.

>> No.75628862

>>75609672
>There is no such thing as a branch blacklist
and you know this how?

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>>75610554
>dammit, character limit
one of you just wanted to get modded by NijiSisters and get paid by Riku Tazumi
too bad, management decides to get high on cope and trees

>> No.75629107

>>75607420
Holo doesn't want Helldivers perms because that'll make the publisher of Earth Defense Force mad at them. They don't want any games similar to EDF to be shilled by Holos.

>> No.75629235

>>75629107
Just wait for Niji getting perms for Helldivers and get same treatment from the other countries to get delisted

>> No.75629354

>>75627254
>And I'm guessing the goodwill from her Selen days helped as well.

I also wonder if how many sponsorships she's had thrown at her since getting fired and going indie has helped as well. If sponsors had kept their distance from her post-termination it would have been one thing, but if anything it feels like a lot of companies (most notably Hyte, who has collabed with Holo as well) were held back from collabing with her by NijiEN management. Hard to argue it's too risky to collab with an indie vtuber who's been embraced by as many companies as Doki has in the last three months.

>> No.75629444

>>75629235
Niji has had perms for Helldivers for a while

>> No.75629620

>>75629444
Why are they not streaming it then?
They had the opportunity from Sony for PR stunt.
Pretty sure they will get positive viewship from countries that delisted Sony

>> No.75629714

>>75629107
I don't think they especially care. Sandlot is effectively indie compared to sony. This is on Sony, not Sandlot.

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>>75629620
...anon?
They DID stream it. Recently, even.

>> No.75629779

>>75629620
They've already streamed it a while ago

>> No.75629841

>>75629620
>Why are they not streaming it then?
They just had a collab the yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRFE91wU7Ks

>> No.75629861

>>75628862
Because that's not what a blacklist is. HololiveEN and HolostarsEN may have largely decoupled from each other in terms of management, but Gorimane and Jap still report to the same people and talk to each other when it comes to perms and stuff. A branch-exclusive blacklist would either require said branch to be fully autonomous or be led by a rogue employee, and Cover isn't big enough to have any fully autonomous branches. Higher ups can make suggestions to the talents themselves about who they should and shouldn't collab with based on potential controversy, but that's not a blacklist.

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>>75629778
>>75629779
>>75629841
>They are not delisted by the countries

>> No.75630090

>>75630027
The fuck does that even mean? Speak English

>> No.75630184

>>75630090
sony delisted helldivers in many countries(177) which do not have psn

>> No.75630216

>>75610646
I'm starting to think the homo purpose is just that. Test the ground and let retards think the brand Hololive is present even outside the garden wall.

>> No.75630265

>>75630184
And? Why would that affect Niji's permissions at all?

>> No.75630379

>>75630265
that anon is probably trying to say that if the livers steam accounts were based in one of those countries they would be delisted. so they definitely are not in one of those affected countries

>> No.75630441

>>75629015
shoot yourself in the head buddy

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No

>> No.75631181

>>75629861
>Higher ups can make suggestions to the talents themselves about who they should and shouldn't collab with based on potential controversy, but that's not a blacklist
This is likely the big discrepancy some people don't understand. Hololive has strict rules and guidelines, but they're not arbitrary like in Nijisanji. NijiEN outright banned Holo collabs early on ffs. You could argue it's good not to overdo them because it's detrimental to growing your own fanbase, so I understand it as a guideline, but it's not normal to ban it completely and for Pomu and Kiara to need to fight to get anything.

>> No.75634048

>>75629015
>>75630837
I'm three of those posts and I fucking hate Niji so fuck you for calling me a sister

>> No.75634949

>>75606963
Lmao you wish sister, holoxniji collabs have been here since a time they're not going out because a certain ex-talent of their company is collabing with holo

>> No.75635217

>>75606963
With how things are going Riku's not in a position to burn bridges with anyone.

>> No.75636892

>>75606018
She already has 1 foot in Hololive's door thanks to the Mumei connection

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