/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Team List.
Here are the list of teams.
{{{BIGGER}}}
/vtai/
/swarm/
/wAIfu/
/ag/
/hag/


M.A.A.Y.B.
/mans/
/stars/
/haha/
/mint/
/yamu/

Avtism
/hfz/
/vtwbg/
/nasfaqg/
/fig/
/news/

South East RRats
/warkop/
Anya Global
Anya Petra Global
/mep/
/rrat/ - Hololive Global

GAMERSxBREAK
/doog/
/mion/
/nepolabo/
/become/
/fbk/

Who?
/corpo/
/wvt/
/tsunx/
/NijiEn/
/asp/

PINK
/pink/
/holox/
/mayo/
/naa/
/morig/

Special Needs Unit
/vrt/
/tactical/
/pyon/
/choc/
/vsinger/

Phase Coffee
/jong/
Lia from Phase Connect
/pcgia/
/pcgen3k/
/fvr/

The Overlaps
/wah/
Amelia Watson Appreciation Thread
The Shiori Novella
/Hirys/
/who/

so how does the tournament works

All the teams and their reps that are competing today along with a brief explanation of the team format.
{{{BIGGER}}}
/vtai/ - Mecha Lulu -
/swarm/ - Neuro -
/wAIfu/ - AIrys
/ag/ - The architect
/hag/ - Ben

South East Rrats
/warkop/ - Komandan -
Anya Global - Anya
Anya Petra Global - Anya petra -
/mep/ - Reine
/rrat/ - PapaRrat -

Who?
/corpo/ - RAKIIIIIIIII -
/wvt/ - R.Chicklife -
/tsunx/ - X factor
/NijiEn/ - Rosemi
/asp/ - T.Paper -

PINK
/pink/ - Ririka -
/holox/ - Holoxer -
/mayo/ - Koyori
/naa/ - Luna
/morig/ - Calvin

The Overlaps
/wah/ - Ina
Amelia Watson Appretiation Thread - Ame -
The Shiori Novella - Shiori
/Hirys/ - Cheebs
/who/ - Friend

>>75567085
Team matches are seeding matches.

>>75567085
Get points in the team stage to get seeded into the second stage, which is a traditional tournament bracket.

Oh this will be fun!

>>75567282
>get seeded

had to time to right out the specific match ups that are gonna happen with the first groups
wAIfu vs anya
neuro vs anya petra
hag vs mep
ag vs rrat
vtai vs komadan

naa vs who
holox vs friend
koyori vs shiori
calvin vs cheebs
pink vs ame

x Factor vs
T. Paper vs
Rosemi vs
R. Chicken life vs
RAKIIIII vs

x Factor vs
T. Paper vs
Rosemi vs
R. Chicken life vs
RAKIIIII vs

remember if you see your thread just tell them

To be honest /vrt/ or /vsinger/ would have made more sense in Who? than /nijiEN/ or /yamu/ too I guess would have made more sense

I love korosan even if she's a jobber

>>75568255
She may have jobbed but at least she looked cool in action.

>>75568566
>everyone else brings swords and spears and shit
>korone brings boxing gloves

thats why i love her

reminder to get your bets in at nasfaq

also even if the thread is not on today just tell them about it incase they are bored

I believe

LIV

when does /yah/ play?

I never noticed /hag/'s GK was Ben Franklin. Was that always a thing?

>>75571520
Always, yeah.

For the next wave of image ads, how many is each thread allowed to submit?
Are animated ones ok? I'd kind of like to add the classic.
The MP4 if possible, the webm if not.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1300816961056600064/pu/vid/960x720/zbYJED2pYcH5KSax.mp4
Or if that's not allowed:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6_qkvVkAIFW3i?format=jpg&name=orig
Put it in raw with the greenscreen visible because I think that'd be funny.

Reminder to remind your threads if they are playing

Was Lulu niji's first big fumble or would that be Roa?

Lets put on a good show.

I'm probably going to miss my thread's match but I have the utmost confident that we will not job

Newfag here
What does jobbing mean?

>>75573640
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)

Shiori is pretty sex

Myth STRONG

>>75571520
Ben Franklin was a Hag Enjoyer.
Also the man had an insane amount of game. Spent the Revolution in France wooing their government and just slaying.

Also is /become/ dead?

>>75576232
>Also is /become/ dead?
kind of?
the "Lamy has big boobies" thread is a thing though.

>>75576363
I mean in the tournament.

Only reason why we're using 'Lammy has big boobies' is that the Jannies aren't instantly nuking the threads on sight. /become/ is an automatic 3 day ban for "off topic" meanwhile the usual shit bait is a-ok by the jannies

>>75576522
Not playing today, this and yesterday is seeding.

>>75576522
they do it for free...

no bully slugma

Did /tsunX/ made Slugma with Ivy as base?

>>75576732
i mean isnt it the most logical choice?

>>75576827
Based

I am once again reminded Ollie is the only Holoro member without a dedicated thread. The damage from the Conner arc can still be felt to this day.

>>75577046
what do you mean
anya has not only one but two generals for herself along with a small cult all over the western scene

what a battle

Finish explaining the Battler lore.

FYI, "loro" means two in Javanese, hence ID2 being Holoro. A keris is also a Javanese dagger. Anya is a gambling addict so spamming the rock-paper-scissors fits her very well.

I FUCKING CARE NOW

>>75577593
Miko images are used to insult male vtubers and tell them to quit since early wvt times
Mikoler is a hfz thing

Imagine getting raped by all the female Souls

>>75578518
Imagine getting raped by all 51 of them, at once.

>>75578518
I had a dream about this. It was a bonus stage and they were all fighting each other to get on top of me.

>>75576663
is this based on a stream?

>>75576663
her last South Park stream I believe

>Slugma landed 2 Supers and lost the round
Slugma...

>>75576232
History class would be much more interesting if they taught us stuff like this and Lafayette being a Washington Gachi.

I can't believe my general won a game!

>>75578927
Hot sweaty sex orgy with all of the fighters

Bump

I want a webm of Mikoler sending Neuro to Davy Jone's locker with that throw

>>75587749
>Mikoler
You mean Antimaler

>>75578518
GIWTWM

thanks to everyone that showed up today
I'll get a bracket made either today or at least within the week I'll try to get it out today so hopefully the thread is still up See you guys next week!
Here are the results of day 1 and 2
phase 18
gamersxbreak 18
bigger 16
overlaps 15
who 15
special needs 7
pink 7
south east rrats 4
avtism 3

>>75591564
maayb?

>>75591675
M.A.A.Y.B
/mans/ - Altare
/stars/ - Ankoku Kishi
/haha/ - BuffGoon
/mint/ - Mint
/yamu/ - Yamu

>>75592294
I think he was meaning where is M.A.A.Y.B. because it's not there. Or am I blind?

>>75592557
>>75591675
oh shit yeah I'm stupid I thought I added them here
real full list
phase 18
gamersxbreak 18
bigger 16
overlaps 15
who 15
maybe 12
special needs 7
pink 7
south east rrats 4
avtism 3

>>75592557
>>75592294
yes exactly, you didn't write their points

>avtism 3
GRIM

>>75592685
Ah, no worries. I genuinely thought I was being retarded when I was looking at it, lol.

>>75592685
Will the tie between Overlaps and Who need to be broken in anyway or have you found a method??

VOD is up for anyone who missed out on any matches, full day went as so: https://youtu.be/2j47QqJI9P4

wAIfu vs anya
neuro vs anya petra
hag vs mep
ag vs rrat
vtai vs komadan

naa vs who
holox vs wah
koyori vs shiori
calvin vs cheebs
pink vs ame

x Factor vs anya
T. Paper vs anya petra
Rosemi vs mep
R. Chicken life vs rrat
RAKIIIII vs komadan

x Factor vs naa
T. Paper vs holox
Rosemi vs mayo
R. Chicken life vs calvin
RAKIIIII vs pink

wAI4fu vs who
neuro vs wah
hag vs shiori
ag vs cheebs
vtai vs ame

x Factor vs wAIfu
T. Paper vs neuro
Rosemi vs hag
R. Chicken life vs ag
RAKIIIII vs vtai


>>75593859
I dont think I'll need a tie breaker but let me start on the bracket first

I will take this time to announce that if anyone wants to switch souls do so now. I am also probably only allowing 1 2b per team as of this post until we can figure out what's really making them so strong we suspect its probably the height

>>75591564
very kino tournament, thanks for hosting it

>>75597009
Is it looking like you might swap some that have more than one 2B per team?
Also: >>75571547

so this is what the bracket is looking like so far. Still working out the kinks but I think its understandable now? Basically the points system is there but now there's no half or 2 points. You get 1 point for a set and it adds up at the end. If you are in the losers side and loser you are OUT of the tournament. I do believe streams will be shorter by an hour

>>75602422
Not gonna tell you how to do your tournament, but Phase Coffee should have the BYE.

>>75602422
This is absolute bullshit, the 5th teams of both brackets were heavily favored, of course they would be on the winner side when they get 3 matchups each with fullpoints while all teams facing them only get halfpoints

>>75597009
You are probably right but here's my theory: 2b probably has the most moves the AI can use that don't seem dependent on a unique character specific mechanic. For instance, you mentioned I think either today or yesterday one of the characters has a Red/White rose mechanic and that the AI never uses the White Roses. Looking it up, it seems 2B has stances but she already has enough in her base stance to be noticeably stronger than most anyone else in the roster.

>>75603388
Should have just won.

>>75603890
Except in that AI fight chart with like 200+ battles, 2B was ninth in Legendary AI performance.

>>75604156
those were all default height, weren't they?

>>75604156
You have a link to that chart?

>>75602422
phase connnect - got 2 matches at full points
overlaps - got 2 matches at full points
gamerxbreak - got 3 matches at full points and bonuspoints because organizer fucked up
who - got 3 matches at full points
>meanwhile
avtism, SERRATS, special needs and pink - got 1 match at full points and one at half points
wow, what a great bracket system that gives everyone a fair shot to gain points

>>75604270
Yeah they weren't with CaSs.
But if someone made their Soul and set the height to match their actual soul, then that chart should match. I think this is partially a height issue more than anything.

is there going to be an individual competition for each fighter or is it only teams

>>75604329
I'll give you the top 9 (up to 2B)
But the data says that Voldo, Amy, and Cassandra have the best AI in the game. But this is with stock heights. Different Heights throw things out of the window, since the AI can actually fail combos due to not having the correct move range.

>>75605264
But at the same time, AI might perform better combos with slightly less or slightly more height.

>>75605587
NTA, doubtful, if the AI is aware of which moves chain into others and isn't just throwing out button mashes, default height specifically will certainly play a role

>>75605686
Yes, but 2B with -1 height can do work since they have so many moves.

>>75602422
alright I'm axing the losers bracket and just doing single elimination. Its all based on the ranking of points. No losers. If you lose a match you're straight out of the tournament simple as that. I'll admit the seeding was fucked but this is the first time im doing this. My intentions were using the odd one out as a wild card for the event so that the 3rd and 4th would gate keep points from them but also having the 2nd place fight leading them to knock someone out from the top of the group. Clearly it only made sense to me and will be made simpler next time I do an event like this

>>75606203
with the extra time you should do a singles bracket for a true sword of the board
use the data for seeding

>>75606203
i don't see in what world it made sense to fuck over the teams that lost their first match by only allowing them one more match at half points while everyone else got full points for their matches and some even getting a bonus match on top
this is the equivalent of doing divegrass groupstage but saying the teams that lost their first match all only get 1 point for a win going forward, its just stupid and doing this for the first time is no excuse for creating such a skewed system
all matches should be counted for full points and the matches between the 5th team and 2nd place should be voided as well as the extra points you threw out for your own fuckup AND THEN the 2 worst teams should be in the spot in your bracket that requires an extra match to reach finals

>>75606203
I personally liked the losers side format. Just thought it was odd that bigger gets a sort of match skip instead of who vs overlaps needing to fight an extra on winners side.

>>75607170
>the 2 worst teams
the 4 worst teams*

>>75607545
I was still working on it before someone pointed it out being un fair. I was just putting something out there so people had an idea of what would happen. I'm trying not to change formats every 2 seconds. but obviously somethings dont add up the way I wanted

>>75607545
>>75606203
Adding to this, isn't the point of seeding in a bracket like this to match the best with the worst team, second worst with the worst ect to avoid all the good teams eliminating each other before grands?
And it's not like this style is incompatible with having a losers bracket.

>>75608583
the problem wasn't your final bracket having a winners and losers side, the problem was that your seeding groupmatches are so fucked and skewed that one team was already guaranteed to be on the winner side just for being the 5th team and 2 teams were already guaranteed to be on the losers side the moment they lost their first match
you need to reevaluate the groupstage matches, not change the final bracket

>>75608729
yeah you're right, I wasn't thinking about that because I was trying to figure out a fair format. I'll put out 1 last bracket then

>>75608583
to show with math of why your groupstage stuff doesn't work as you did:
2 teams had to lose their first match, so at best they could win 2 matches and gain 3 sets in the matches they lost, so for their first game they could only get up to 7 points at best, then their second game is half points so another 5 points at best if they win ALL matches, meaning they can get 0-12 points only
then another team had to win once and lose once meaning they had to get at least 6 points in their first game and again no more than 7 in their second match, then they get a third match at half points so they can get anywhere between 6-18 points
then you have a team that wins 2 games meaning they had to get at least 6 from the first and another 6 from their second, meaning they could get anywhere between 12-20 points
and then the fifth team gets 3 games at full points meaning they could get anything between 0 to 30 points
TL;DR
2 teams could only get 12 point max
1 team could got 6 at least and 18 max
1 team could had to get at lest 12 points and can get max 20, meaning the first two teams could never go above this team even in the most perfect result for them
and the last team can get anywhere between 0 to 30 points meaning they almost triple the pointrange than 2 teams and almost double for a third giving a clear advanntage

>>75611227
alright let me look at my notes again

>>75606203 >>75611366
>>75607545 (Me)
Skipping the concerns about the seeding itself, what about something like this?
Nobody starts in losers already, though the two top seeds get a 1 game bye.
This should fit into the three days skipping the placement matches since each day already had 6 team matches, with an extension for grand finals reset if that happens.
Though I would also honestly like to the placement matches.

>>75612931
I'm still running the math, I think as of now I'm planning to gran the full points to the 3rd and 4th place team and cutting the points gained at the final match of the day in half for both teams but this looks promising so far. I couldn't figure out the settings for challonge myself

>>75612931
>>75613186
alright I think I ran the numbers correctly by halfing the last match of the day and also removing the points from the mishap with /become/ and /choc/
phase 18
bigger 16
overlaps 15
who 9
maybe 12
gamersxbreak 11
special needs 9
pink 8
south east rrats 5
avtism 6
I believe this is more fair? The most change in the placements seem to be who was on top. What settings was this challenge bracket so I can use this instead? I could only ever get it to force some awkward positions on the double elims

>>75613561
RIGGED, WHY DID /MYTEAM/ LOSE SO MANY POINTS

>>75613561
the japanese dont believe in seeding in the first place
plus, just win

>>75597009
When I was making my character there were guides online about what height worked well with which Soul. For Taki people said taller was better, but I still made mine really short.

>>75613561
if you actually count the first two games of each team at full points it would be:
Phase Coffee: 18
Overlaps: 15
BIGGER: 14
Who?: 13
M.A.A.Y.B.: 12
Pink: 12
Special Needs: 12
GAMERSxBREAK: 11
avtism: 8
south east rrats: 6

day 2 intro finally up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27UR_sNd4w
>>75617303
oh I see. I must have miscounted because I had them tallied up but maybe I fucked up at some point. These placements don't seem too much different from the past 2 so I'll just use this for the bracket

>>75617594
if you want a tie breaker for M.A.A.Y.B., Pink and Special Needs:
M.A.A.Y.B. won 5 sets
Special Needs won 4 sets
Pink won 3 sets

>>75617594
and this is how your bracket should look like based on those results

>>75613561 >>75617594
My settings aren't anything special, it's all default except for here I'm pretty sure.
For the participants just add them by bulk in the order of highest to lowest if you've haven't added them already.
It'll be sorted by default in that order, and you can manually re-order them later on the same page if you have to.

I ended up trying to write a guide on how to deal with the tie breaker between Who and Special without knowing the exact stats but >>75617303 and >>75618108 makes that obsolete now I guess. If the tally looks right after another pass, assuming you can't share them to us to look at, you should probably seed them in that tie broken order.

Also while I have your attention, please acknowledge Lamy's big boobies >>75571547 and consider rigging it by counting the /jong/become/choc/ match anyway.

>>75619135
>>75619168
alright I think I have it set up now. Hopefully this makes sense to everyone now

>>75620137
you mixed up pink and special needs unit

>>75620916
oh I thought I changed it but I fixed it now

>>75620137 With the pink thing fixed the other thing is I think you should add the consolation matches option anyway just to have the option if there ends up being extra time.
I'm pretty sure the bracket can just move forward without them being done since they'll each be isolated.
Also could I get an answer on the 2nd ad for become? Just a basic, is it fine for the overlay or not at least?

>>75622534
oh sorry I was focusing on the bracket that I forgot the answer for the ad, its fine as a static image but I can't play the video version of it

>>75622807
Yeah that's fine which is why I included the static HD one with the green screen, which I don't want removed because I imagine a green block will be funny but I can edit it to white if it's a problem.

So is the image limit 2 per thread now?
What's the state of video ads currently, are there already enough of those left for the 3 days?

>>75623426
I didn't get a lot of ads so if you want to send anything else go ahead. I've been using the nasfaq and hfz promos stuff as filler

>>75617303
I don't understand how gamersxbreak finished 2nd in the group and ended up 3rd from the last...

Retard question when do the teams break and threads start killing each other so just one remain?

>>75624905
groups are up until the end
maybe next time I'll get rid of the groups and do singles threads. I did the groups because I didn't want some threads die in the first round and never show up again. With groups the chances of seeing the chuuba are increased

>>75623543
Alright thanks. Here's another image ad for /become/.
I'm assuming you want short, wider images like this to fit on the overlay better right? How wide do you think would be good?
I might edit the other /become/ ads if you think it'd help.

For video ads I'll just match /mayo/ and submit clips of Lamy singing if I get around to that, is it still limited to 60 seconds?
And anything I can do on my end to make the videos easier to play on stream? Since I noticed you seem to have to manually resize the submitted ones.

>>75623883
because they got free points from organizer fucking up and a free third match that others didn't get that boosted them in the old system

>>75625128
With "until the end" do you mean until the last round or like literally until a team wins?
The champion of this is a thread or a team?

>>75625830
until a team wins

>>75625757 (Me)
This thread will probably be dead before I finish anything so I'll just dump the ads in /fig/ when I'm ready.

if thats the case I'll let it die then
for those still here here's what the bracket is looking like now based on the help I've gotten fixing the numbers around to reflecting new ruling to make it more fair. any questions or concerns please ask them in /fig/

>>75629182
Yeah that's fine.
I'm also gonna assume wide images but 60 second videos still since you didn't say anything on it.

Also in OBS, you should probably just use transform fit to screen (or fill) instead of doing it manually and make the video not auto play so you can do that.

>>75629715
naruhodo
also thanks for all the help

>>75629934

>>75617303
>avtism: 8
>south east rrats: 6
>the 1/2 point shit was just to get SEA above avtism. RIGGED

>>75629934
if you want another extra "ad" for the bottom of the screen, this is some stanky stale relic nasfaqg art. was going to be part of our kit but it wasn't legible at all in play. technically works for the ogey calibur team that has the reine rep too