/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Wife live on twitch very soon!

It's going to be a long weekend

>>75542282
She'll be fine. She's not the scared little egg dog she was before.

Attempting to record, just in case.

Since it’s obvious she’s here…
I forgot what I wanted to say. But hey Sayu

>She deleted the kissanime bookmark again
I KNOW YOU ARE HERE

> I don't use forums
She's not here, how do we cope bros?

I swear it feels like watching a kid you raised go off to school for the first time. We've tried our best to heal her, but it's up to her now.

>>75543264
she's a hag, not a kid, anon. most of you are younger than her.

And so it begins.

>>75543264
Guys, I am seriously worried for her, but I don't want to stop her. I know if she faces this, she can take one step more to getting over her brain worms.

>>75543395
> I know if she faces this, she can take one step more to getting over her brain worms.
Eh, not really. Facing her own demons is good, but the problem is doing a reaction stream. We will see.

>>75543338
Yeah, I know, but it's still the same feeling of "I hope I helped prepare them enough for this."

>>75543395
>>75543484
we couldn't stop her even if we wanted to, but we CAN support her.

>>75541170
You know what, on second thought your oshi isn't lame after all
She's mega-lame

>75543682
cry more, sister.

>>75543719
Ignore them, we have more important things to watch right now.

>>75543719
meant for
>>75543682

>>75543831
that's why I didn't give them a (you)

Sayu took the blackpill

>>75543908
retard. see >>75543917

>She loves it when people love her
MY
HAG

>>75544034
Oh thanks, I forgot to link my reply in my post

>>75543917
meant for
>>75543682

>75544397
double retard

You just feel she wanted to get that off her chest. The healing is in process. Acceptance is only a matter of time.

>>75544619
it'll be a long time, but it'll happen. she'll make it!

I think she's already healing desu. The fact that she's reacting this way I mean.

>>75544869

Calcifer being a little shit as always

ADHD is real, 8hr for 1 video, letsgoo

>>75545456
still a short stream

>tangia paused
THANK GOD

WE ARE FREE OF TANGIA

>>75545906
>>75545946
TTS next pls

>>75545906
Thank fvking god
Also category is a mess atm

>she still likes Zaion's mama
That's good I guess. Zaion was a good design.

How's her stream going? Have to VOD watch it later

i cant focus on the video, im thinking about her armpits

Yuniiho love.
What a fucking champion.

>yet
what did she mean by that?

> Not in a company YET
Phase migration is happening confirmed

>>75546416
ADHD is real. We are still in the beginning

>>75546416
She's staying strong.
>>75546500
Don't read into it too much. She's not at her best mentally right now. Slips are going to happen and it's probably more her stumbling on her words.

>>75546517
go beg somewhere else

>>75546500
Maybe she's in talks with someone behind the scenes who knows really

>>75546549
That's good.
>>75546550
Can't wait to watch it later then. thank you

>it was added retroactively
why am I not fucking surprised

>>75546691
Nobody is surprised

>>75546407
I still prefer Sincro

>>75546691
Pls be surprised to show some reaction pls

>>75547027
Fcking hell we need that artwork of her laughing while everything now

>Fcking Bao came in
Um um bad timing?

>>75547295
or she knows.

>>75547027

>>75547322
Maybe, is she a Sayu friend?

>>75547295
lol kinda?

>>75547295
ehhhhhhhhhh, define bad
my opinion is idgaf, doesnt matter who raids rn

>>75547373
Bao did get hate raided from the Viet nationalists that one time so maybe she understood?

>>75547373
yeah but probably didn't expect anything like this

>>75547425
Bad as in bad optics but at this point, we are way past that desu

Damn...

I still remember some kotokafags a few months ago claiming that they were friends because Kotoka still talked about Zaion in stream.

>>75547373
I haven't kept up with Sayu in a while, but Bao is close friends with Yuzu who was friends with Sayu long before she even went to Niji so there's a connection there at least

>>75547590
Aged like fine milk

Damn x2...

Here we go

how autistic is our wife, bros?

>>75548130
It’s not looking good

>>75548130
Prospect aint good. Time to deploy the love

Finana?

>>75548245
dude...

Wait this is new
>Got told the gaslight version
>Talked it out in DMs
>Still stuck with the gaslit version
Amazing fish-brain

>>75548245
Yeah, it's... rough.
I always thought it was fucking bizarre for her to toss her hat in the ring...
Also vod confirmed.

I'm not surprised, Finana is a fucking snake.
>Don't get mad at her, she is just a retard :(
lmao.

>sayu has more faith in kotoka than I do.

She's talking about Kotoka you faggots

is this the first time she's listening to this?

>>75548415
She was talking about two people.

>>75548415
She is NOW talking about Kotoka. She was talking about Finana before.

test

>>75548415
She was then she referenced Feesh

>>75548432
Yeah, she's never heard Kotoka's words before.

hmmmm so this explains why michi (mika) said in stream yesterday shes lost respect for a fish ex-coworker

>>75548432
Yes. A huge surprise to me that she just started watching it and it seems like Kotoka lied 2 times already. She gives her a benefit of ESL doubt though.

>>75548432
For Kotoka's words yes
And yes the person she referred to as talking in DM is indeed the Feesh

>>75548517
Clip? Maybe she's talking about another fish.

She's unironically a saint. The world doesn't deserve her

>>75548638
How many fish v-tubers are in NIjisanji? Genuine question, there's 177 of them, I'm not going to bother counting.

>>75548688
nah she not entirely faultless shes dumb as fuck and naive so all these people took full advantage of her

>>75548517
clip of this?

>>75548517
Clip pls anon
>>75548770
Agree. She is way too forgiving

I hate Kotoka so fucking much

>>75548638
>>75548777
>>75548817
ask in /vsj+/ but don't bring up Sayu because then they won't give it

>>75548517
I dont remember this you have a clip? I know matara said only rosemi is her friend on nijisanji now is that connected perhaps?
https://youtu.be/ChNZSoTcFb0?si=-8phWk595cWvZon8

uh oh

So Sayu did reach out to Kotoka
How and when and why? Don't know
We might have a reason why Kotoka got suspended then

So Kotoka is just a bitch huh

>>75548914
/vsj+/ are faggots, got it.

sooo what sayu is saying is she literally caught em shitting on her and talked it out and forgave them but they still shat on her after the talked and doubled down

>>75548966
Yeah, I think it was around october or november when she mentioned it before. It was probably that rejection that caused the whole breakdown during the subathon or something around that time...

>>75548989
The other day I saw them defending Quinn to death

>>75549000
Sayu my beloved, you're naive and these cunts will keep taking advantage of you.
>>75548989
always have been.
>>75549003
my hatred of nijis just keeps growing

Ah there we go again.

>>75548770
If we mean her bf being stolen, I don't see how that's her fault. This is one of those instances where it is legitimately just victim blaming.

>>75548989
>>75549027
Nah, they just don't have the context. It's honestly insane that anyone could be that shitty, so I don't blame them for not believing it immediately.
Reality is often worse than fiction...

>>75549003
That timing would be interesting, because Kotoka went out of her way to talk about Zaion before Sayu's subathon ("she was very important to me, I'll never forget her" and stuff like that)

Yep, too forgiving for her own good.

>>75549090
Nah they had the context, screenshots and everything. And they just said "that's it?".

>>75548989
I think it's fair to not bring up Sayu there. You'd cause someone to sperg out instead of having a meaningful conversation.
>>75549027
If that's true, it's prob cause that they don't know shit that happened in Niji and just stick with Vshojo or are twitch only users.

Sayu, you're sounding a bit yandere here

>>75549176
Hot

>>75549119
>Be Sayu
>Wanting to burn the world down
>Still wanting Kotoka to be happy
WTF? HOW?

so now katoka being on stealth hiatus for 89 days makes sense now

Sayu sounds legit in love with her not even lying. Like. I thought she was painfully straight but idk

Sayu is difficult to believe at times.

>>75549119 (me)
Also I think I should learn from her how to be a bigger person, not sure if to THAT extent though.

>>75549197
...toxic yuri?

I wish she mentioned Quinn but I doubt she will.

I know people who take the friendships they believe so seriously, almost like a life or death thing. That stuff is a ticking timebomb in the real world.

>>75549197
She’s got a bad case of the brainworms, I’m telling you. Not a single male or female vtuber is a mentally well adjusted individual but god she needs help.

I'm starting to think that Sayu had a love thing for Kotoka, which is scaring me because it sounds yandere a lot of loving her

>>75549247
more like shes being manipulated and gaslighted even until now. remember that katoka also took out hololive mel and washes her hands after

>>75549247
Sayu is straight, but she is always starving for love and attention. If she likes a person she would go as far as eating their ass just to be on their good side.

>>75549119
indeed
>>75549256
you just don't understand her
>>75549335
sadly.

>>75549247
She is. She takes her friendships very seriously.
>>75549206
I'd be surprised if it was related.
>>75549160
Yeah, don't bring up sayu unprompted. That's exactly how you get people to hate her out of retaliation.

>>75549335
>Sayu eating Kotoka's ass
Hot

>>75549317
Maybe she actually thought they were really close

>>75549407
>Sayu drugging Kotoka's drink and then eating her ass

super hot

“katoka might be terminated soon”
sooooo if this happens will people turn on her or support her?

>>75549407
>Eating Sayu's ass while she eats Kotoka's

>>75549447
that's why asked previously how autistic Sayu is, because even I'm not as blind to people's intentions and I'm autistic af

>>75549363
Yeah I don't. I find such level of forgiveness difficult to believe as sincere, but it does make her pretty her rather pitiable in a way from my pov.

Honestly I don't know how she's not bawling her eyes out right now. All I did was watch her and send some money for a year, and I'm on the verge of tears. I can't even imagine living through it.

>Listened to Kotoka
>Assblasting Hex
Lol. Fcking KEK. FCKING LMAO
Yeah I would have done the same. At least Kotoka is hotter

>>75549482
does she even have fans at this point? shes gonna die as an indie
Sayu had a cult following and shes struggled ALOT before she got to this point

>>75549447
That’s worrying that she bought Nijisanji’s cultish “family” image wholesale to begin with. I don’t mean as a fan, but as an actual talent. Sayu really feels too easily manipulative, like she would easily be suckered into other cults if it wasn’t for this wake up call.

>>75549565
I'm pretty sure she's already past all that

>>75549591
for sure that made me laugh
fuck that dude

>>75549482
Turning her into Folk Devil will be much easier since people already hate her.

>>75549642
I mean, the kool aid is real. They believe the nijifamily shit until it's time to throw someone under the bus for the greater good. It's literally a cult.

>>75549591
kek what a faggot

>>75549554
>I find such level of forgiveness difficult to believe as sincere
I understand why you feel that way, that's all I'm gonna say.

>>75549681
karma i guess but seeing sayu suffer as one until truth got out, I wouldnt wish it on the worst of people

>>75549591
Yeah I get it, I mean I'm guessing Kotoka is super hot irl and Sayu was able to see her and get hugs and maybe even steal her used panties.

There's a bond there but Hex? Fuck no

>>75549777
same. Maybe I just wish I could be more like Sayu. I just wish everyone could be more friendly and stop hurting each other. (crazy thing to say on 4chan, I know...)

>>75549642
Basically explained the talents signed the contract despite the 2% thing

>>75549482
If she is the first(or only) one to be terminated out of that group of brand risks, it really would be telling.

>>75549482
We've seen sister psychosis for over a year now so...

>>75549482
The reason for her termination makes all the difference.

I really hope she'll feel more liberated after this whole stream, don't want her dwelling on the past anymore.

>>75550082
lol
lmao even
Get ready for the rest of the year.

There is no favoritism in Nijisanji

>>75550082
Nah, it'll still hurt, but hopefully this takes a bit off her shoulders.

I don’t know if you plan to actually reincarnate again Sayu. Just know I’ll follow you anywhere

>>75550082
She's going to be like this forever unless you streamlabs her 20k a year

>>75550037
not to me, I consider the bridge burned even if Sayu doesn't. she'll just betray her again.

>>75550082
She seems ok

'tism 100% confirmed kek

>>75548989
That clip of Sayu calling VShojo a clique after collabing with Zen, and the fact that some people tried using Matara not collabing with Sayu as proof she was in a secret Niji clique soured a lot of them on Sayu.

>>75550359
she's just like me fr fr :)

So Hex chose to weaponize his trauma (unconfirmed). This motherfucker deserves to rot in hell

Just tuned in.
Why is Sayu on a cross.
This is dangerous. I'm tempted to draw now. I've drawn a few crucified Holos.

Speaking of cats, is sand supposed to do anything for the smell? Or is taking out the droppings a few times a day the best you can do?

uh

>>75550466
There's litter designed to stick on the turd and reduce the smell

Why won't Sayu clean up my shit...

Oh no she's doing the Hasan thing

>>75550451
She just watched a video about her termination. It was rough. It ended with her jacket edited on a cross and she rolled with it.

>>75550451

>>75550498
Damn, thanks for the info though.

So is this guy like a Va or?

I always assumed finana was just another dumbass caught in the cliques politics. She didnt rub me as someone that would be a total bitch. Guess im wrong

>>75550629
Yeah I'm done playing the devil's advocate for that shitty brat

>>75550629
Yeah, that's what she wanted you to think.

>>75550490
heh

>>75549958
its over for her. least shes hot according to sayu. she can do onlyfans

>>75550629
I gave her benefit of the doubt because she's a dumbass, turns out she's malicious too. Fuck Finana.

>>75550400
>Not recognizing a clique as not a clique
>Okay then

>>75550433
professional victimhood tbqh the trauma isnt even connected too

>>75550753
I wanna believe the cosplay whore is her

>>75550629
If you thought that you didn't catch up on all the shitty things she did. She's dumb and malicious.

>>75550753
my yellow fever is reserved for Sayu only.

>>75550400
She called them a clique a year ago because Silver left them.

>>75550629
yea admittedly I defended her from unicorns for a few times in the past.
I regret everything

>>75550629
Finally. I was done with the feesh a long time ago. Once is coincidence. Twice is a pattern

So basically YT comment bros made the Zaion video happen? Based.

Good night Sincroknights. I think your oshi is a genuinely sweet and good person.

>>75551188
Good night bro.

>>75551188
Gnight little wisp. Your oshi is great too.

>>75551106
It seems so. A GOATED video too

>>75551188
Based, I love Mint too.

>>75551188
Take care wispbro, your oshi sweet aswell

>>75551188
MINT LOVE
SAYU LOVE

Would you guys represent her in court?

depends on the country but arent defamation cases pretty difficult to win especially if you're a public figure?

>>75551378
I would if I was megarich I guess

so I heard sayu shat on feesh too glad to see sayu knows how much of a snake she is

>>75551515
Wait what did Finana do to mochi

The irony of Quinn getting brain surgery when the people defending him or being buddy buddy with him are terminal retards KEK LMAO

A huuuuuge stretch since she was supposed to start 2-3hrs earlier than Sayu's stream but just for the shits and giggles:
>Millie's stream was supposed to start a few hours ago
>Still hasn't started
>They're probably doing Sayu's stream watchalong
Admittedly, she's probably just stleeping but still.

>>75551378
nah I would encourage her not to waste money fighting ghosts and corrupt megacorps and just focus on her career and get married with me after she retires

>she knows what menhera is

>>75551652
nah millie is a turbo dramafaggot and even made alts like @maegixx on twitter to shit on doki back then. shes definitely watching it and hanging out in catalog for info

>>75551717
She's Japanese.

>>75551717
why shouldn't she, everyone does.

>>75551768
naw, that girl's a horrid person who was one of the very first people to shit on sayu. She had the first reply to one girl's story calling her a horrible liar and a pedophile iirc.

>I want people to know...
>Oh thank you!
It never gets old or any less comfy.

Tts is fucking cancer

>>75551768
honestly millie is probably the worst person on the clique. yes far worse than elira or vox

>>75551940
I want to complain about TTS but they give Sayu more $ so I'm content with them.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP WITH THE SOUNDS

>>75551940
>>75551977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcYrTCGKyrU
I once loved TTS in a way

The message thingy had to troll at this time

>>75548977
She is Japanese, their response to almost anything bad is ghosting/never interacting with that person again.

>any other streamer starts drama
*crickets*
>Sayu does something that makes Niji look bad
SHUT UP MOVE ON DRAMAFAG REEEEEE
Couldn't be more obvious lol

>>75551951
Don't forget Reimu's attempt in her tiny ass nabe pot.

An attempt, lmao

Fuck the entire lot of them.

why is she like this bros

What the hell

Now we wait to see potential blowback. A pity the Bao raid was nice and Saruei even gushed over Sayu yesterday, hope all these contacts don’t now drop her again after this.

>>75552076
because no one can be perfect anon, you must simply learn to love them despite their flaws

>>75552065
It's funny cause Reimu shot Vox in the knee by being a whore too.

>>75551951
If Millie hypothetically gets a boyfriend and he finds out of all the shit she pulled, I hope he slaps the shit outta her and fix her instead of dumping her ass and letting her wreak more havoc.

>>75552093
Today she didn't say any ya- OH GOD SHE'S BRINGING VSHOJO UP

>The thing about vshoujo
Here we go

>faggots mentioning Vshoujo again

>>75550629
Not defending her since she is obviously at fault but probably she is dumb enough that she got influenced by the rest of her coworkers and now she is just as shitty as them.

She'd be much better at Phase, why does she like Vshoujo so much?

>>75552208
She could keep her model and brand for starters

> fags on chat mentioned Vshojo
>She calls it a Clique Company

I love Sayu so much

>>75551188
Have a good night, little wisp. Your oshi is adorable and we like her here.

Sayu isn’t an incel she’s a fucking volcel!
For corpo cock

>>75552208
Do you regularly choose #4 over #3?

>>75552208
It sounds more like she's unsure about how much she'd have to give up financially if she joined phase.

Bless this bread!

Why is she actively picking a fight with VShojo? I get not liking them, that is fine, but why does Saruei seemingly want to be in a grudge match against every single major EN vtuber? How does this do anything but isolate her more?

>>75552345
Sayu*

>>75552246
These are negotiable but yeah I can see why she wouldn't want to

I knew that she asked about that the other day for a reason. Fucking brainworms.

Well at least she knows about Mythic and other agencies.

>>75552141
Why, why the fuck does she do this? Having an issue with Niji I get but even if you hate Vshojo they haven’t done anything to Sayu. There is fucking no support to be found in trying to act like VShojo are Niji, she’s just gonna make the whole EN vtubing sphere hate her again

>>75552345
It's more that there really aren't too many options right now for her. Vshojo is the only one that'd be a direct upgrade that'd let her keep her IP. Downside is she's not actually close enough to any of them to have a ticket in.

>>75552446
Fucking nigger she's not the one who brought them up

>>75552446
I feel you but she's not saying anything wrong either, and if the door is already closed, there's no need for her to tread carefully around them

>>75552446
>There is fucking no support to be found in trying to act like VShojo are Niji
She is not doing that, she is just being honest with chat when they ask her why she doesn't join them.
>I can't join Vshoujo because they are a clique and one of their members hates me.

M... Analytics is my primary occupation, should I share my thoughts to her about the numbers, what affects them and what caused her recent drop? A part of what I can say may upset her a bit though.

>>75552447
So why fucking pick a fight with them? Picking a fight with Niji nowadays is fine, most people support it and several Vtubers do. But Vshojo is not Nijisanji, why the fuck does she want to make herself come across as someone who has beef with them when they have done nothing to her? Kson even helped her and Zen streamed with her like a month ago.

>>75552533
This is Sayu. She doesn't see it as picking a fight. Someone asked a question, she answered. Vshojo is objectively a clique. It's a closely knit group of friends that doesn't generally accept outsiders easily.

>>75552530
Do it, she will appreciate it as long as you are not being an asshole about it.

>>75552533
Did you not hear her? They didn't want her

>>75552290
>>75469269
it seems like the generals that commonly get raided by sisters have quite a bit in common in how they deal with stuff

>>75552530
You might want to send it through twitter DMs or the website DMs rather than in public.

>>75552494
There is. She comes across like she’s trying to shit on them, ‘clique’ has become a loaded term now in the vtuber space thanks to Niji. Vshojo has tons of reach and a lot of fans, Sayu is kneecapping her own career if she’s gonna make herself come across to these people as if she hates Vshojo.

>>75552533
She isn't picking a fight? She was answering a question. If you deny the presence of a veto making it a clique that's on you.

>>75552600
She isn't? It's a genuine fact.

>>75552576
And? They aren’t under an obligation to take her, she is objectively tiny compared to anyone they’ve ever taken. That doesn’t make them Nijisanji, they have an excellent rep in the community, massive fanbase. Bao is good friends with Melody, many Vtubers are friends with them, they won’t fucking engage with Sayu if she’s seen as the person who thinks Vshojo is a clique like Niji

>>75552641
Anon, we get it, but the interpretation is up to everyone else.

>>75552572
Okay then. Will try to make a several page-long breakdown later.

>>75552598
That's a given, nothing will be public.

>>75552697
Could we get a TL;DR?

>>75552697
If you're really unsure, you could try contacting Rae through the discord. That'd probably be faster to answer since they have a thing there for mod tickets, too.

>>75552677
Stop concernfagging, she's an adult and knows what she's doing

>>75552345
i dont think shes picking a fight with them she actively says she loves people from vshojo and even tries desparately to be friends again with nina but shes just saying out it is. Vshojo is a nepohire company and have their own little clique ran by ironmouse and the talents decide who gets in or not.

>>75552677
It's fine. It's not something she hasn't said before several times. If it was going to hurt her by now, the damage would've been done already.

Sayus repeating this tts shit to piss me off specifically
No meds

some people ITT are deaf af so let me summarize her points:
>mostly upgrade: VShojo, Mythic
>currently: indie
>mostly downgrade: every other corpo
if you ask me, she should stay indie or sign up with mythic, it's almost the same anyway.
>>75552600
>Sayu is kneecapping her own career
no, that's the roach.
>>75552722
this. Rae will know whether anon should even talk about this with Sayu or his advice wouldn't be welcome.
>>75552737
check twitchtracker, anon. Mouse follows her, the roach doesn't, it's obvious who blocked her entry.

>>75552597
MY GOD SO SPOOKY!!!! almost gave me a heartattack

>>75552717
Nah, when you assemble the data sometimes you go 'well shit, it's not what it seemed like at the first glance' even though I'm 90% confident in the said first glance.

>>75552722
Good point

>>75552600
clique isnt such a negative word back then. Nijisanji just ruined it sayu does not intend any ill will shes just ESL

>>75550629
Man I don't get this when she rubbed me the wrong way all the way back in that minecraft server opening where she didn't fucking wake up on time and no one could get in. By the time she woke up she didn't even sound sorry

>>75552530
Do it through DMs. Preferably website or Twitter
>>75552600
>>75552677
Stop concernfagging. She is an honest bitch so there is nothing to stop her. Vshojo ain't beating the clique allegations anytime soon and clique has always been a thing in the Vtuber scene anyway but ppl are too blind to recognize it.
You could have a clique in which some plays with others and it is totally fine

>>75552795
ironmouse runs the show but other talents can also veto or give a say on who to invite
and thats why she wants to reconcile with the roach badly

>>75552925
It was a legendary publicity stunt from another point of view. She just kept fumbling the hype ball time after time then ignored everyone else to get groomed then destroy her fanbase.

>>75552946
everyone knows it and I dunno why tourists try to deny it, even someone from /vsj/ would tell you vshojo is an ironmouse clique just not as bad as elira’s

>>75547295
in my huble opinion its always a good time for baos fat ass.

>>75552982
so the veto thing is real
no wonder most indies save for the most inoffensive ones gave up on joining them

>>75552737
That’s picking a fight with them

I WANT TO GO TO OFFKAI AND MEET AND HUG AND KISS SAYU
FUCK

>>75553095
Seriously hope Bao isn’t now soured on Sayu for good

>>75553258
i doubt it. shes very sweet. no girl with a ass that big can be all bad.

>>75553300
>no girl with a ass that big can be all bad
as a wisp, I agree

>>75553258
They're fine. It's not like any of this is new info.

>>75553258
Why would she?

>>75553258
She's vietnamese.

>>75553184
yes its real they will aggressively try to poach people the talents like and will never hire people the talents dislike your credentials or numbers does not matter. They hired 2view nobodies like geega and haruka because friends but will refuse even a big name if a talent vetos against it

I never understood Sayu when she talks about corpos. What she wants:
>Already functioning
>Bigger audience that she has by herself
>Presence in expo
>Keep her IP
That scenario is Vshojo or nothing and is not posible.

>>75553258
bao isnt a stranger to drama she knows whats up

>>75553387

That's why she's so torn about phase.
Because apparently all of that is weighed against her desperate want for more friends, which will definitely lose her money overall...

>>75552982
>thats why she wants to reconcile with the roach badly
I don't think she tried ever since the roach claimed "maternal instincts" to shill Sayu's doxxer.
>>75553237
me too
>>75553387
mythic can offer that, too, and she's friendly with some of them especially Filian

>>75552208
VShojo has no sub/dono cuts, less than 50% cut from merch, you own your IP, a bigger fanbase, etc. If you're a big indie and want to be part of a branded group of vtubers it's currently the best option.

>>75553258
Bao has been on the receiving end of Twitter bullshit more than once, I think she's sympathetic to Sayu's situation if anything.

>>75553383
hmmm explains why alot of small indies suck up to ironmouse

>>75553438
>which will definitely lose her money overall...
I'm not so sure about that. If Sayu is worried about losing CCV and people getting bored of her, joining Phase could be a good bet for the future if they keep growing. In the worst case she could graduate in a few years, go back to being an indie and keep her new audience and friends.

>>75553387
would you stop shilling that fucking clique company for 5 fucking minutes? you love sucking on that vshojo cock

>>75553387
I don’t get it either. She wants a corpo like hololive or bust with her standards . Phase isn’t good enough

>>75553516
I have no idea, honestly, but she always brings up money whenever someone mentions phase.

>>75553516
>>75553537
i think she should just stay indie. but make collabs whereever she can get em. get her name out there.

>>75553537
i dunno, phase is starting to blow up they can be #3 when nijien drops out in a few years

>>75553387
She can wait for more Mythic-like agencies to pop up, what with MSM likely blowing up from the allegations.

>>75550591
i need her arms and legs splayed out, complete and total public humiliation, with the clique laughing and pointing at her naked crucified body

>>75553626
weird kink but whatever floats your boat.

>>75553599
She could just join Mythic

>>75552813
I guess you can't share it with the class then. Anyway good luck anon.
>>75553065
Ever since its conception, Vshojo has been a clique or if you want to get fancy: a group of Vtubers friend forming a group together. It only turned corpo later. Anyone who can't see the clique roots is either 1) watch from 2023 onward 2) gasligthing themselves
>>75553371
Idk if any actual Vietnamese would be watching Bao atm after the CNY incident
>>75553519
Chill out anon. He has a point

And I miss her already, bros.

Sayu stream is over, you can start your stream now, Millie.

>>75553717
Is mythic even what she wants? Does mythic have any kind of community or is it just an actual management agency?

>>75553726
Imagine Millie being /here/ specifically in this thread and being civil.

A good tldr of the stream to slap in tourists face?

>>75553787
I thought they only help with sponsorships and that's it

>>75553726
I don't watch this person. Has she unironically not started her stream yet?

>>75553565
Keep in mind that Sayu is right now at the peak of her popularity and support, so joining a corpo would mean getting less money. The thing is, she is worried that this could be just a temporary thing, and that most of her current viewers will eventually abandon her when they get tired of her content. That's one of the reasons why she isn't denying the possibility of joining Phase, because it's a valid career choice.

>>75553833
That was a typo, anon was talking about MILLLE PARFAIT

>>75553519
Im not shilling, in fact i hated that shit since the Silvervale and Hogwarts legacy fiasco.
Vshojo to sell merch is a company, when shit hits the fan, is just a group of friends and you get fucked alone.

>>75553833
she streamed like 12 hours ago. dunno what the other anon's talking about unless she posted a schedule somewhere.

>>75553833
Still nothing and it was supposed to go live 6 and a half hours ago

>>75553912
what?
Anon it says her last stream was 8 hours ago and 4 hours long. So if anything she was streaming up until around sayu started.

bump limit again!
>>75553516
>if they keep growing
that's a very big if, and Sayu knows that very well.
>>75553565
and people didn't believe me when I said that phase's offer is crap. let today's stream be another piece of evidence for the beggars.
>>75553588
agreed
>>75553717
she could
>>75553787
I mean, a big chunk of the /lig/ chuubas are there.
>>75553873
more like a possible fallback
>>75553879
indeed, NijiShojo wouldn't help her in a controversy.

>>75553879
>Le froot: 'everyone makes mistake' kek
Also keep in mind that Sayu is friend with Silver and yeah you get the point

>>75553950
check her channel dork https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjXCRqOiiZU

>>75553950
Saw her waiting room and thought she had another one coming up

>>75553955
>that's a very big if, and Sayu knows that very well.
Not really, they know what they are doing.

>>75554000
yeah, I see it. Still bizarre. Wonder if there was a glitch or something.

>>75554034
Nah, she's hooked on the game, was super sleepy on the first stream and went to sleep with the plan to wake up and stream again. Probably sleeping still.

>>75554014
you're just a fan, Sayu is in the business, of course she knows better.

>>75552567
It's weird how they have that perception meanwhile every time I watch a vshojo stream it's a 6 man collab with a bunch of indies I've never heard of.

>>75554121
And that's why she is being very careful when she talks about Phase, she knows it's a valid option.

>>75554163
It's a clique as far as the actual company goes. They aren't a clique with collabs. They tried auditions once, and then they ignored them and brought in Haruka anyways iirc.

vod doko?

>>75554354
I... I think she forgot to make it public again.
It'll be back by tomorrow.

>https://twitter.com/sayusyn/status/1789199137113809145
She has unlocked her twitter.

>>75554187
valid, and currently inferior. more like a safety net if you will.
>>75554352
>They tried auditions once
and Sayu got rejected.
>>75554383
almost every vod is held for review for a while
>>75554430
less than three

>>75554430
The best part of the stream was when she'd never seen this gif before, confirming that she's not /here/

>>75554354
Vod usually takes a while to be uploaded on Twitch. If she forgets, you could always remind her
>>75554430
For the love of god, please have someone manage your account too Sayu

>>75554583
Dyrbi

>>75554460
>currently inferior
Not to suck phase's dick but they do have multiple talents that have a higher ccv than her.

>>75554352
They did the auditions they just hired one winner instead of five.

>>75554615
>but
hmm... ghey!
>multiple talents that have a higher ccv than her.
apex fallacy. most phase girls are way below Sayu.

>>75554615
Yeah, but the thing is, will she gain a big enough numbers boost from joining to make it worth the financial cost? I don't doubt her numbers would go up, but the question is more will it be enough?

>>75554352
The two requirements to get in are:
>be a 4view
>be friends with multiple members
The VShojocraft Minecraft server is secretly a way to recruit new members. Each Vshojo member is able to allow a few friends to join the server. Henya chose Mint, and Michi chose Camila for instance. If they're able to befriend a few VShojo members while on the server and they actually want to join VShojo, they'll probably be able to.

I'm of the mindset that if Sayu could negotiate a favorable contract with Phase there would be more positives than negatives. Yes she would lose out on a portion of her earning but from what I've heard some of the Phase girls say is that they make a fuck ton off merch sales. Also she would have multiple professional tard wranglers so (hopefully) she wouldn't be involved in anymore drama.

>>75554801
> Also she would have multiple professional tard wranglers so (hopefully) she wouldn't be involved in anymore drama.
counterpoint: yabbit
or actually I haven't heard anything bad about the yabbit in quite a while, so maybe they're doing a good job.

>>75554717
You'd be surprised how many paypigs only go for corpo chuubas.

>>75554755
you forgot about the now confirmed member veto, and the roach will never let her in.
>>75554801
>negatives
apart from far lower income, being forced to deal with corpo slop rigging again, instead of having THE best in the whole industry.
>muh merch
Sayu sells merch through uwumarket and her own site, too.
>tard wranglers
you can't tard wrangle Sayu, and it'd do more harm than good.
>>75554870
corpocvcks aren't people.

beware of enemy infiltrators >>75554548

>>75555061
It’s not easy to tell falseflaggers

>>75554965
>far lower income
I'd hardly call 30% "far lower"
>merch
The girls get 40/60 (60% to the girls) splits and don't have to worry about production cost
>can't tard wrangle Sayu
They somehow tard wrangled Kana so I don't think Sayu would be much of an issue

>>75555145
I have no strong feelings about phase either way. I like some of the girls but I'm not necessarily attached to any of the ones Sayu likes. If her content doesn't change, it won't be an issue, but doesn't phase have a unicorn problem?

>>75555141
Hard * I mean

>>75555202
>doesn't phase have a unicorn problem?
Not really. Most people don't care except for falseflaggers and SEAnigs.

>>75555250
Sounds like it'd be fine then if it somehow came to that. As long as she's happy, I don't really care if or where she goes. But again, it really depends on if the fishman can somehow make it worth it for her to actually join, and right now it doesn't seem like his potential packages are good enough, if he's even offering.

Sayu, if you want to grow your audience you need to make your content more easily digestible. Right now you have a ridiculously big bottleneck of long-ass games that you play every week, and you end up streaming them for a long time. You are a zatsu god, but people just want to watch shorter stuff, and it's difficult to get invested in a long playthrough like P3's when it takes you literally weeks to resume it.

>Playing long games is OK, but try to focus at one at a time
>Shorter games are easier to clip and they can keep your content fresh
>If you want to keep Twitch as your main platform, you need to start playing ball with the meta and do more reaction and zatsudan content
>Please, for the love of god, do Karaoke streams for youtube.

>>75555339
Yeah, that's probably a big thing. She doesn't really get "clippable moments" to blow up with outside of drama...

>>75555324
Yeah. The only reason I say all this is just because I want to enjoy her streams without having to worry about constant drama. I'm not going to lie and say I don't like phase but I don't necessarily care if she joins or not. I just want her to have someone to tell her to shut the fuck up sometimes.

>>75555145
>30%
that's what the phase girls get from streams? that's rough.
>I don't think Sayu would be much of an issue
you don't know her then.
>>75555202
didn't phase explicitly ban hand and face cam streams recently?
>>75555339
picrel=you
>Playing long games is OK, but try to focus at one at a time
and when she hits a game a lot of people dislike there comes the mass unsubbing, and those people won't return after two weeks
>Shorter games are easier to clip and they can keep your content fresh
you mistake it with FotM games, those are the easy ones to clip and the normies will lap them up.
>and zatsudan content
every stream is zatsu because she keeps following the chat despite gaming
>do Karaoke streams for youtube.
I'm sure that's not gonna happen.
1. copyright
2. lack of good enough mod tools
>>75555386
start bugging Sky Rainpuff to do more
>>75555604
>I just want her to have someone to tell her to shut the fuck up sometimes.
I'm pretty sure that's one of the few things you'd get instabanned for. kek

>>75555670
>start bugging Sky Rainpuff to do more
it's less about that and more that the content she does doesn't lend itself well to clips. It's better for longer edited videos, if anything since she doesn't really do anything that can be funny in a vacuum in under like 1min.

>>75555756
>she doesn't really do anything that can be funny in a vacuum in under like 1min.
certified retard
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu/clips?filter=clips

>>75555670
>that's what the phase girls get from streams?
Phase get's 30%-40% depending on the contract
>You don't know her then
The thing about Phase is that yes they have good managers but the girls themselves look out for each other. That's the main reason the company is still here today. It would be a good environment where she would have others to talk to.
>Didn't phase ban handcams
No?
>you'd get instabanned
I'm not delusional enough to believe a comment from me would do or mean anything to her.

>>75555670
>and when she hits a game a lot of people dislike there comes the mass unsubbing, and those people won't return after two weeks
Anon, there's a bigger risk of your current fans just getting bored of your content because they are not willing to keep track of the 4 o 5 long-ass games you are sporadically playing every week.
>you mistake it with FotM games, those are the easy ones to clip and the normies will lap them up.
Nope, you can find plenty of clips of chuubas playing games like the classic Megaman series. They are short, fun to watch and easy to react.
>I'm sure that's not gonna happen.
>1. copyright
>2. lack of good enough mod tools
She is not in a corpo, plenty of indie vtubers (small, mid and big) sing whatever they want in youtube without any problem (just look at Mint). It would also mean more clips.

Anon, Sayu herself admits that she is not a good content creator, so you don't need to eat her ass so much. She is aware that she has a problem, and she has plenty of room to learn and grow.

One day you'll support Sayu instead of anti-ing everything else.

>>75555842
>Literally 2 views
They are not bad, but I wouldn't go out of my way to start watching Sayu if I saw any of those

>>75555947
>but the girls themselves look out for each other.
have you not listened to the stream? Sayu got repeatedly stabbed in the back by female "friends"
>I'm not delusional enough to believe a comment from me would do or mean anything to her.
mods can ban you too you know
>>75556010
>your current fans just getting bored of your content because they are not willing to keep track of the 4 o 5 long-ass games you are sporadically playing every week.
no one wants drama tourists, and everyone else knows what they're getting themselves into when joining the fold. plus, as you admitted, she's a zatsu goddess, so even if you don't give a shit about the game you can still enjoy her yapping.
>fun to watch
I'll just agree to disagree on that one
>without any problem (just look at Mint)
counter-example: Henya. she got demonetized for literally no reason in her PL, that's why she transitioned partially onto twitch back then, and one of the main reasons why she's twitch exclusive now.
>Sayu herself admits that she is not a good content creator
which won't be the first nor the last time I disagree with her on something.
>and she has plenty of room to learn and grow.
not by throwing away everything unique about herself, no.
>>75556025
are you saying criticism is anti-ing? because then you're a Sayu anti, retardchama. two can play this game you know.
>>75556195
imagine making a 10 min video about the best weekly ones every week... there's the edited funni video you want. in fact, you can move your ass to her website right now and write an application on the job board.

>>75551188
Sayu is too good for this world.

>>75555339
long games need like a content arc that can be turned into a longer edited video

>>75556324
true that.

>>75553237
Can relate.

errr tourist from /vsj+/ here someone is larping in the thread as a sayufag starting shit im guessing its prob a nijisister seething because some dumb shit happened trying to falseflag

>>75556342
yeah.
She really does need to play more fotm games though if she wants to focus on growth. Maybe tap into that vertical stream meta, even. If she wants to grow for the sake of growing, there's absolutely ways to do that.

>>75556459
yeah, sayu just did a long stream watching a video about her termination and giving some more insight, so the sisters are shitting up the board before word gets out on the things she said.

>>75556459
yep

>>75556459
they're getting really desperate lmao

>>75556534
wtf, these menheras.
Of all the things they could do with their time.

>>75556301
>no one wants drama tourists, and everyone else knows what they're getting themselves into when joining the fold. plus, as you admitted, she's a zatsu goddess, so even if you don't give a shit about the game you can still enjoy her yapping.
Who the fuck is talking about drama tourists? They disappeared a long time ago, and they only come back for streams like today's.
>she's a zatsu goddess, so even if you don't give a shit about the game you can still enjoy her yapping.
She can only talk and react about the same stuff for so long, she needs fresh content.
>counter-example: Henya. she got demonetized for literally no reason in her PL, that's why she transitioned partially onto twitch back then, and one of the main reasons why she's twitch exclusive now.
...Even IF something like that happened, it literally doesn't matter. Twitch is still her main plataform and she barely uses youtube. What she needs is to start reaching new people and getting more clippers, and karaokes are an excellent way of doing that.
>which won't be the first nor the last time I disagree with her on something.
Then you are blind and you are not helping anyone.
>not by throwing away everything unique about herself, no.
No one said anything about throwing away what makes her "unique". She could keep her content mostly intact, what she needs to do is to organize it in a different way, keep her focus on one thing at a time and lose her aversion/laziness of trying different stuff.

Sayu has the talent and the skills to make it big, but she needs to learn how to grow her audience.

>>75556301
>imagine making a 10 min video about the best weekly ones every week... there's the edited funni video you want. in fact, you can move your ass to her website right now and write an application on the job board.
lmao why don't YOU do it if it's that easy?

>>75556617
>Who the fuck is talking about drama tourists?
you, since you purposefully ignored the second half of that statement despite quoting it.
>She can only talk and react about the same stuff for so long, she needs fresh content.
she barely does react content tho. as for zatsus, those are guided by the current game, what chat's saying and what happened in her life recently. unironically watch streams
> Twitch is still her main plataform and she barely uses youtube.
exactly, so why bother with yt-specific karaoke streams? not that she'd do much of it, despite having a great voice you need the stars to align right so she feels like singing.
>Then you are blind
I just don't like that kind of content, but I didn't want to roast you for your shit tastes, that'll change from now on.
>keep her focus on one thing at a time
anon, she literally has ADHD, she can't do that.
>but she needs to learn how to grow her audience.
as funny as it sounds, Filian would be a better teacher than you.
>>75556710
because I don't want to.

>>75556534
How fucking pathetic can one person be?

>>75556617
Yeah, I can agree with all of this.
She has the potential to be the giant streamer she thinks she can be, but unfortunately it'll require a change in direction and more focus on things that will make her grow and a bit of a harder pivot away from her old norms. I think she can absolutely do it, though. If she was able to steer so far away from her gachaspam roots, she can totally grow as big as she wants to.

>>75556825
>you, since you purposefully ignored the second half of that statement despite quoting it.
Because it's retarded. But sure, I'll humor you:

>and everyone else knows what they're getting themselves into when joining the fold
All the new fans DIDN'T know what they were getting into when the joined the fold. They got to know Sayu thanks to the Doki drama, and they stayed because they liked her content. Now, that was a long time ago, and Sayu isn't even half way through P3. There's plenty of people who are starting to lose the interest on watching the same old long ass games every week. The CCV doesn't lie.

>she barely does react content tho. as for zatsus, those are guided by the current game, what chat's saying and what happened in her life recently. unironically watch streams
React to what's happening in the game, retardchama. That's different from reaction content.

>exactly, so why bother with yt-specific karaoke streams? not that she'd do much of it, despite having a great voice you need the stars to align right so she feels like singing.
Because that's where the clippers are.

>I just don't like that kind of content, but I didn't want to roast you for your shit tastes, that'll change from now on.
You don't have to like it, it's just the best way to get more people to watch Sayu. And that's what she wants.

>anon, she literally has ADHD, she can't do that.
That's not an excuse.

>as funny as it sounds, Filian would be a better teacher than you.
Filian is unironically a good example of what I'm saying. She doesn't play games or sing, but she uses her skills to make easily digestible content.

>>75556825
NTA but Anon, chill. You're not fighting an enemy. It's clearly someone who wants to help, and nothing they're saying is offensive or even outright wrong.

If Sayu's worried about numbers, she needs to focus on things that will build numbers. It's really that simple. She absolutely can do it. She's much better than she thinks she is, but she'd have to convince herself to make the change to get started.

>>75556825
>because I don't want to.
lmao

>>75556825
>anon, she literally has ADHD, she can't do that.
There's literally hundreds of ADHD vtubers out there who don't have a problem on keeping their content under control.

Don't make a new thread

>>75557088
>All the new fans DIDN'T know what they were getting into when the joined the fold. They got to know Sayu thanks to the Doki drama
yes, those are tourists, who ONLY came because of the drama, and once that dries up they'll leave, no matter what Sayu's doing.
>React to what's happening in the game
she does that all the time. again, watch streams.
>Because that's where the clippers are.
that's a self-contraditcion on your part. why push yt so hard when she's a twitch streamer first and foremost?
>t's just the best way to get more people to watch Sayu.
as I said, Filian knows better about growing than you or I do, and they happen to be friends.
>That's not an excuse.
indeed, it's the reason.
>but she uses her skills to make easily digestible content.
because that's who she is. refer back to their collab stream and you'll understand.
>>75557137
>but she'd have to convince herself to make the change to get started.
except it's quite possible that it's just a temporal anomaly, as Sayu herself said, she's just worried about the case if it isn't.
>>75557179
so it's up to you
>>75557328
they aren't Sayu.
>>75557399
don't worry, we only bake before/at stream start.

>>75557399
I don't plan on it until tomorrow's stream, at least. I agree, though. Let it die down as much as possible so people have time to process it.

>>75557457
>except it's quite possible that it's just a temporal anomaly, as Sayu herself said, she's just worried about the case if it isn't.
It is, but it still comes down to how if you want the numbers, you have to explicitly chase them.

>>75557497
at the end of the day we can keep slapfighting about it as the thread bumps off, but she's the one who's got to make the choices, it's her business after all.

>>75557457
>yes, those are tourists, who ONLY came because of the drama, and once that dries up they'll leave, no matter what Sayu's doing.
Anon, this is not a cult. Sayu is a streamer and a content creator. The new fans have stayed for 3 months already because they liked her content and wanted to support her. That doesn't mean they can't get tired of seeing the same stuff every single week.
>React to what's happening in the game
...again, and she can only talk and react about the same stuff for so long, she needs fresh content. You are just not getting the point.
>that's a self-contraditcion on your part. why push yt so hard when she's a twitch streamer first and foremost?
...What? YT clips are ESSENTIAL for twitch streamers, they are the best way to get more people to know about them.
>as I said, Filian knows better about growing than you or I do, and they happen to be friends.
As I said, she is a good example of what I'm saying. If you can't see it, then you are just blind.
>indeed, it's the reason.
Nope.
>because that's who she is. refer back to their collab stream and you'll understand.
Because she knows how to use her skills to grow her audience.

Anon, stop treating Sayu like a little kid.

>>75557677
I think the anon's just a bit tired today. It's been a long day, after all.
She'll be fine. If nothing else, she has a manager and a community willing to support her and hopefully help her with whatever they can.

>>75557457
>so it's up to you
No, it's up to people who know how to make good clips, want to help Sayu and think she has clippeable content

>>75549490

>>75557677
>she needs fresh content.
she plays new games every week. you so obviously don't watch streams it's not even funny. the more I think about it, the more I smell a /#/fag, and the next thing you'll kvetch about are probably male collabs, talking about her divorce and being straight. go back

>>75557875
>she plays new games every week
Stuff like the RE5 streams are EXCELLENT kind of content, but they are the exception, not the rule. What she usually does is start a new game and then forget about it for a while, and then she spends the rest of the week on stuff from her backlog. Again, that's the bottle neck and the lack of fresh content.

Shorter games like the horror kusoges she played yesterday or even the Pokemon fan game are also a great choice if she manages to keep her focus on them and do them every single week. They are extremely new viewer friendly, anyone can jump at any point of the stream and have a good time.

Voice of the void, the souls crab game, Stardew, hag emblem, the random honkai or genshin streams, persona 3...? Not so much.

But sure, keep pretending that I don't watch streams if that makes you happy. I like how you have started ignoring too the rest of the stuff I said.

>I smell a /#/fag, and the next thing you'll kvetch about are probably male collabs, talking about her divorce and being straight
Holy projection, batman. You are the worst type of fan that Sayu could have.