/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

please do not use my spidermom for your shitposts. i will give you horny art if you comply.

>>75513189
>mom
She’s a hag?

>>75513788
She's 37, minimum.

>>75513119
>evaded everyone who is in niji
I think hes done okay

>>75513861
Holy sex.

>>75513788
massively, yes. if you have even a shred of appreciation for hags you should check her out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJtOR9pNS-0 she's doing karaoke right now and is great at singing. has a deep voice. plays tons of retro games. insanely consistent schedule (3pm EST 6 or 7 days a week).

nigga they literally recruited a girl with her own IP and then terminated it along with her
you'd have to be REALLY desperate to want to any part of that shitshow

Chapipi is in idol? Who?

>>75515105
roca.

>>75513119
I'm sorry but the jews offer better money without having to deal with /here/ chuds as much

>>75514627
I’ve watched a recommended stream before, think it was about old computer storage or something and thought she was incredibly cute. Now I know she’s a proper hag that changes everything.

>>75514940
Yeah no one is ever gonna join as an Invader with their IP after the shit they puled with Yuri

>>75515330
Woah cool it with the slurs, buddy.

>>75515330
they're also a complete fucking joke of a company that very likely will be dead in a year or two that's more-known these days for how bad its girls have been with melties/hiatuses/blatant donothon grift fests and ducking out, and of course for how badly managed they are. it wouldn't surprise me if they collapse in another year or two (although it is possible investor funds will prop them up artificially even if they should have died). but you do you.

>>75515533
just one more year sister

>>75515533
They will announce they are officially under Brave Group before the next fiscal year.

>>75515372
So true, oomph

>>75513119
>Lisa in idol
Wtf when did that happen?

>>75515533
next year for sure

>>75515347
She is just the loveliest vtuber there is in my opinion. Becoming a bucko has been incredibly rewarding. I'll link an older shill for some vod recs >>59114244

>>75513119
Wait for Rosemi-sama.

>>75515611
check /jidf/ it was leaked on their store

>>75515533
I'm still not convinced they aren't being backed by the Israeli government. They'll be fine.

>>75515628
Appreciate it anon. Although I lust for hags, I feel like she’s not the type to lewd.

>>75515533
>>75515719
They have infinite money and can keep underperforming forever if they want.
This is a vanity project so results don't really matter at all.

>>75513119
The capippis harassed Lisa and Amiya when Tsunderia closed, the capippis went to the girls' chats and spammed them saying to join Phase, the girls got upset, it's all the fault of Pippa's fans

>>75516322
She's not overty lewd, but does tease quite a bit and falls into the "unintentionally incredibly erotic" zone pretty often. lots of her sexiest fanart was drawn by ami herself.

>>75516485
And now Idol's crusaders are falseflagging as Phase fans in every thread they can find.
Aviel has also gotten caught posting here himself.

>>75513119
I mean with Jelly, Muyu and Clara I don't think he's missing much from one girl he stopped trying to poach a year and a half ago

>>75513189

>>75513119
Poaches Phase has gotten
>Lia
>Nasa
>Lumi
>Yuri
>Remi
>Dizzy
>Ember
>Jelly
>Runie
>Clara

record is good

I don't think Phase are that starved for new talents

>>75516621
100% deserved

>>75513119
do you really believe people here care about this enough?

>>75516712
About vtubers? Yeah?

>>75516801
probably a holofag.

>>75513788
I can marry her

>>75514036
>he doesn't know

>Everyone is sad, happy, or laughing
An actual seething retard >>75515533 appears
Hello Fishman

>>75516654
>Lia
huh

>>75516654
forgot Muyu and Saya
>Lia
>Nasa
>Lumi
>Yuri
>Remi
>Dizzy
>Ember
>Jelly
>Muyu
>Saya
>Runie
>Clara
12 poaches

>>75516590
no it's just faggots like you trying to sow your stupid console wars drama nonsense, fuck off back to niji

>>75515105
Who the fuck would oshi a girl who calls herself ya pp.

>>75517347
didn't get the one you wanted most though so keep seething

>>75516590
>phasenigs accusing anyone of falseflagging

>>75517041
I think Lia interviewed for NijiEN so that is why that dude counts her as a poach

>>75517434
But anon, Hitler is dead and isn't coming back

>>75517384
>>75517511
>Gets caught
See how they recoil when caught

>>75517515
>>75517041
No. Lia was accepted into Cyberlive and was all set to start there. Only problem was she had yet to sign a contract and she had auditioned for Phase concurrently. She got cold feet and bailed, went to Phase instead.

>>75517760
>sakana's first poach was from his direct competition in the pre-debut phase
impressive

>>75517760
Lia was never part of Cyberlive proper, she was part of Yunity.

>>75517760
nice find this is the autism im here for

>>75516545
I’ve been watching the karaoke and I’m in love. Her voice is also really fucking good.

>>75513788
yeah she's pretty great

grasping at straws here.

>>75518806
listening to this cover is the moment i realized how over it was for me. it was the first thing of hers i listened to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lK1OEeteI

>>75517760
Imagine if Lia had stayed on with cyber? She would have been out of vtubing within 4 months.

>>75517760
>Lia was supposed to be Yuri
Damn, that's a real providence

>>75516654
You didn’t even mention Muyu and Saya

>>75517760
>>75518704
>checks out
damn I wonder whatever happened to the other girls who quit? wonder if any of them became someone

>>75516871
wasn't technically Niji

>>75514627
>Interrupts karaoke for several minutes because her delivery food forgot the sauce so she has to run to the store so she can eat on stream

>>75520202
They're around.

>>75520540
spill it it's been 3 years

I love all the seething at phase. Not even a phase fan or a holo fan or a niji fan but it's just interesting to me that as soon as any corpo gets big enough, they will get a ton of antis for no reason at all.
They keep pointing to that twitter brownoid that even most phase fans hate, like he is the president of all phase fans or something just because he has a mildly popular twitter page.
Just shows what a bunch of normalfag twitter shitters post here these days. I barely remember that faggot even exists and they keep bringing him up in almost every phase related thread.

>>75520603
do your reps

>>75520202
this post aged like fine wine becuae it was later to be revealed 100% true. the talents that saw yunity for what it was have a lot of lot more street smarts/instinct than the idiots who actually signed on and debut with cyberlive.

>>75520603

>>75515105
You must have been living under a rock

>>75515641
Will she even graduate any time soon?>>75515685

>>75513119
>spam someone for a year that she should join phase connect
>she tells you to fuck off
l m a o
only the most desperate join beggars connect

>>75521068
these Yunity reps are fucking wild, especially knowing that Amaris Yuri in this is Lia. Who was Hylo?

>>75521589
>Who was Hylo
anon you know not what you ask........... it is a journey you must make yourself.

>>75521589
>The contract never had a clause fro leaving before debut, so that's what I am choosing to do
>and it never had a clause for if I jumped off a building
kek
my sides that has to be lia

>>75521668
please hints my trail is going cold :(

>>75522445
lumi has very bad blood with the rest of cyberlive. so try searching lumi + the others.

>>75523379
Chapipi (Roca) and Lumi are friends

>>75515306
you fucking liar

>>75513119
How many threads do Phase Cucks need?

>>75522445
I'm in a generous mood so give me three corpos and I'll tell you if a yunity member is/was in it

>>75516654
Who was Nasa?

>>75523494
Just like Yuri and Lumi are friends

>>75523599
kawaii
prism
nijisanji
BONUS: are there any others in phase besides lia?

from what I have found, people said they went to vgakuLive but nothing pops up

>>75523379
this isn't about lumi. this is about the people who were in yunity before her and quit beacuse they knew it was a black company.

who were the original 4-5 members of yunity besides lia? who was original hylo?

>>75523720
kawaii - no
prism - yes
nijisanji - no
bonus - no
:)

>>75520603
a little spoonfeed
two of them are in idol, one in phase (was two before one gets terminated), one becomes a chuuba affilated with a browser and the rest are irrelevant indies except emma

>>75519971
Saya is no prize, don't care for Muyu but some retards like that kinda shit content

>>75513788
She likes a lot of video-games from the 90s.

>>75528878
I think that's underselling it. girl has a fucking vic20 and has played more DOS games than my dad.

>>75515533
you are right but seeing phasetoddlers crying about this is more satisfying

>>75517760
>both versions of yuri were once in cyberlive and phase connect
guunnuy gow tgimfs eofk

>>75516654
>>75517347
where was Runie poached from?

>>75530257
She was a successful Hololive candidate but she dropped out as soon as she got the offer from Sakana because Phase Connect is way better and has more to offer.

>>75521226
Depends on her contract. I hope she graduates this year but who knows.

>>75513861
>37
Doesn't she live with her parents? I thought she's in her late 20's at best.

>>75531958
you have her confused for someone totally different.

>>75527908
Im amazed you don't even read thread.
He's talking about the lost Cyberlive generation that all quit before the debuted.

>>75513189
I've never shitposted with her and only started watching her when she started playing Tron Bonne. I kindly request your strongest spiderhag lewds.

>>75530257
NexStage

>>75532339
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not explicit, but she drew these ones herself which makes them way more lewd
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>>75532998
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. That bunnygirl one is super cute, I really should watch those PC98 drawing streams.

>>75533162
She's been drawing a lot of pixel artwork lately and it's been great to see her skills grow. The onahole chibi model was also all her.

>>75529155
>crying
hey ESL sister

>>75515533
Nah, the American taxpayer is footing the bill

>>75523630
That wierd anycolor hostess branch.
Also another of the new jps came from clara's last jp corp.

>>75523672
>>75517347
14
Airi was the og purin before muyu
And another of the new jps (i forgot which) was in the star ring with clara.

>>75517760
Cyberlive is the most influential dead small corpo in the west. Everything can be linked back to it.

>>75520603
I know one of them is in Hololive now. Cyberlive is truly powerful.

>>75536224
lol no
the biggest girl to come out of Cyberlive is Lumi, unless you count GX Aura's 70k debut with the browser buff

>>75536393
You arent aware of the true history then, sorry.

>>75513861
It's a weird feeling being around 30 but having almost nothing in common with other people in their 30s. I genuinely do not understand the "retro games from the 1990s/1980s" shit, that wasn't my childhood at all, people on here constantly call me a zoomer and then I'm like faggot I'm too old to be a zoomer. It's nuts.

>>75515533
I think it's funny aviel joined vtubing thinking he'd scam and muscle his way in and then jewish psychopaths were defeated by female schizo grifter whores.

>>75536393
GX Aura is a much much much bigger deal in vtubing than Lumi. She is the diamond that came out of Cyberlive.

>>75536578
Aura averages around a 1/3 of Lumi's CCV but she does have more a lot more twitter followers

>>75536837
>ccv
and what does that tangibly get Lumi? Nothing.
GX Aura is doing things at cons by herself, because people want to see her. She gets big panels at Offkai. What is Lumi doing at OffKai?
GX Aura has people in the industry wanting to colab with her and only her, because she is good and she has it like that. Lumi doesn't have it like that. She has to 4th wheel and wait for Pippa and Fillian to ask her seatfill their collabs.

>>75537354
>GX Aura has people in the industry wanting to colab with her and only her, because she is good and she has it like that.
Ah yes, like the world famous EIEN Project. So desirable! So renowned!
The only reason Aura collabed with Kiara is because they are IRL pals. The only reason she has anybody watching her at all is because she shares the name of a Chinese spyware browser that posts cringey shit for zoomers on twitter.
If she was so special she would have succeeded as Pandora but she didn't and to this day it destroys her that she'll never be as loved as Lumi.

>>75538049
it's been over 8 hours since the announcement. this much phaseethe can't be healthy.

>>75537354
lumi's nickname is /pcg/ years ago was "Lumigi" for a reason.
she's a sidekick. it's always "_____ and Lumi."

>>75517347
Idol still has some way to go

>>75514940
that hasn't happened since, and likely won't happen again.

>>75515533
All these small corpo fans bickering like their not all exactly the same is so funny.
These tiny companys are exactly the same amount of shit, no matter how much you say otherwise.

>>75532998
kinda based

You don't think you know what poaching is

>>75523630
Pei

Idol CEO fucks one of their girls too btw

Wait, sakana can no longer complete his tsunderia collection?
I wonder how he is taking the news... poor fish.

>>75546234
I bet he could supply a lot of weed

>>75513119
And you expected anything else when you recruit exclusively from the psych ward?

>>75546333
Yeah, phasebeggars really annoyed Amiya back then. She's expressed several times that she's burnt out on dealing with being managed/controlled too so them basically ordering her to get poached even mid-stream probably touched a sore spot.

>>75517347
Were these actual poaches? As in they were recruited before they left their prior company for the explicit purpose of joining Phase? Because that seems extremely unrealistic. Picking up free agents is not poaching.

Man, I miss /clg/...

>>75536496
Your parents didn't play games with you?

>>75552179
shit posting thread made by sisters. they either fail to grasp English or just straight up lie. ehh >shrugs

>>75513119
Lisa is in Idol now??

>>75536560
>jewish psychopaths were defeated by female schizo grifter whores.
Menhera women will be (((their))) nemesis, mark my words.

>sees phasekeks and idolgoyslops fighting
Is this how PC users feel when they see nintendrones and sony ponies fight?

>>75517760
Woah, dodged a bullet there.
Also, nice find.

>>75516654
>Dizzy
That probably wasn't hard considering she's his sister.

>>75519795
>Lia was supposed to be Yuri
I wonder if that's why those two were close friends, until Yuri did whatever she did to sour the relationship with all the other girls (and get kicked)

>>75517760
>in another timeline, lia is another seething ex-cl girl

>>75520782
Preach it. I don't even know who you're talking about, and it just illustrates that people dive way too deep beyond what's needed to enjoy chuubas.

>>75557464
Vtubing itself is an exaltation of mental illness, on both sides of the screen, so this is not surprising at all.

>>75557681
>fiction books are an exaltation of delusion

>>75557714
Fiction authors and readers don't get parasocial with each other, simp for each other, gaslight and tease each other, behave childishly with each other, and so on.

>>75557846
You wot m8. They absolutely do because loons are everywhere.

>>75513119
I think it's safe to say that most people are smarter than Lumi and Yuri.
They see that part in the contract where he says; "We'll buy you a new upgraded model but after that Phase Connect will own your character," and every sensible person nopes out.
This is why Jelly didn't... with her own... you get me.

>>75520782
Stop exposing the business

>>75557846
What is Harry Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games, every Ryan Gosling movie, every Quentin Tarantino movie, every Martin Scorsese, Star Trek, Starwars, Marvel Movies, etc etc etc
Yes directors and screen writers are authors

>>75520782
Bannedbrownoidsmemes is a phase shill
A lot of pippa fanbase came straight from that facebook and twitter account

>>75536134
That would be tsunderia

Hahaha i thought phase is better than niji?
Know you place phasekeks

I thought one of the upcoming invader targets was specifically not a singer but is an entertaining 3/4view indie

>>75556156
>PC master race
>Phase Connect master race
Feels good.

I don't think that phase would help lisa in any way but I'm not sure if I want to see her under the jews
that shit is a nijisanji 2.0 in the making

>>75513119
I'm actually dissapointed he missed Lisa.

>>75536496
I feel sorry for you.

>>75513189
She's pretty fucking boring outside of liking retro games though.

>>75560920
yes yes it's very 7pm in your part of the world we know

>>75520782
it is entirely a coincidence that every time a cancerous dramafag identifies themself and you find out who they watch, 9 times out of 10 they're going to be a phase/pippafag, at least when it isn't related to nijisanji anyway

>>75560896
Thanks desu.

>>75560730
She sold herself to the **** anon. Probably better that he didn’t get this one.

>>75557022
Source? I thought they were business friends and then hired her out of pity.

>>75517760
panko also said that she was almost accepted into cyberlive but they ghosted her during the final interview and she went to phase instead

>>75561233
Controversial opinion perhaps, but it's better to be owned by kikes than chinks.

>>75557105
in that timeline Lia doesn’t back out of CyberYunity, she likely quits within 3 months and is so soured on vtubing she doesn’t try it again.
She’s not a drama vtweeter

>>75557953
The funny thing is Lumi tries to pass it off that she didn’t sell her IP, but everybody knows she did.
Sakana had to be pressured into hiring her, ain’t no way he let her keep her IP outright.
He is not gonna invest and promote an IP he doesn’t own.

>>75517347
Most of these are not poaches. Picking up indies from fail corpos is not a poach.

>>75566459
Lumi isn't dumb, she would never accept that deal.

>>75560730
He had well over a year to get her on board, he's either a tard who flubbed what should've been the easiest pick up ever or didn't even bother trying

>>75567259
tbf Lumi is dumber than Lia. She fell for the Cyberlive trap. Lia didn't.

>>75543701
it might happen if they recruit someone retarded again

>>75517347
>>Lia
quit Cyberlive predebut and got immediately hired in Phase Gen1. Poach
>>Nasa
don't know enough about her timeline
>>Lumi
quit Cyberlive and 2 weeks later shows up in Phase to meet her friends. What a coincidence. Totally not a pre arraigned thing. Poach.
>>Yuri
see Lumi
>>Remi
was current AmberGlow when hired. Poach
>>Dizzy
Quit Tsunderia, but within weeks went to work for Phase behind the scenes. Did Sakana convince her to quit and work for him? Debatable.
>>Ember
was a hiatus indie after Tsunderia closed. Essentially a free agent. Not a poach.
>>Jelly
was semi retired music chubba formally of MyHoloTV. Essentially a free agent. Not a poach.
>>Muyu
was an indie after Tsunderia closed. Essentially a free agent. Not a poach.
>>Saya
was a hiatus indie after leaving Tsunderia years ago. Essentially a free agent. Not a poach.
>>Runie
was current NexStage when hired. Poach
>>Clara
was current StarRing when hired. Poach

so I would say 6 poaches. 7 if you count Dizzy because her circumstance is sus

>>75568055
Dizzy was a management poach but not a talent poach

>>75568055
so phase if your remove pippa and tenma the two most sucessful phase streamersthe whole thing is just tsunderia / cyberlive retirement home

>>75568429
Depends on how you view it. I don't consider people in another company jumping ship to greener pastures as a retirement home. That is called taking from your competition and weakening them while strengthening your own.
The tsunderia girls were all picked up from the figurative corpo unemployment line, so I won't argue against it.

>>75568429
Yes, but he can't finish the tsunderia collection
Amiya, Mio were never ever before he lost Lisa to the Jew and while most Phase probably don't really care about Ami, Mio actually admitting to have declined multiple offers to join with her IP some "unnamed corpos" will forever haunt Fishman and Aviel

>>75568429
I mean, PRiSM imploded recently. Nia already talked about being approached by a company. I'm guessing Shiki is the golden goose for Idol and Phase.

>>75569327
I don't think Phase or Idol are losing sleep over Mio.

>>75566459
>Lumi tries to pass it off that she didn’t sell her IP
Dumb bitch.

>>75567518
when you put it this way, yeah lumi is kinda a dumb bitch
even the retarded zoomer saw cyberlive for what it was and ran

>>75566459
>The funny thing is Lumi tries to pass it off that she didn’t sell her IP, but everybody knows she did.
She didn't though. She has said she can graduate from Phase and still stream as Lumi. Invaders contracts can vary wildly and Fishman himself confirmed a few days ago that Invaders can indeed keep their IP if they want to.
>Sakana had to be pressured into hiring her
Not true at all. Sakana desperately wanted Lumi to join Phase and has said as much in interviews, he was in contact with her well before she left Cyberlive.
>>75569664
Lumi made a name for herself in Cyberlive, did double duty as a manager and streamer to try to keep the company afloat, got to keep her IP when that didn't work, got to join Phase and retain her IP, and is the most successful out of all the ex-Cyberlive girls. I think things worked out pretty good for her all things considered.

>>75570109
we will only know and find out when Lumi graduates one day.
all we know is is that there have been 5 invaders.
1 of them came in as an existing IP, and she lost it when she left
1 of them came in as an existing IP, and ???
3 of them got new IPs because they didn't want to give up their existing IPs
Occam's razors.
but you can keep putting your head in the sand.
Sakana is not a dummy. He doesn't not make bad deals. He is not gonna use and promote an IP he doesn't own, especially for someone who just bailed on her prior company and is always a flight risk.

>>75570109
we will only know and find out when Lumi graduates one day.
all we know is that there have been 5 invaders.
1 of them came in as an existing IP, and she lost it when she left
1 of them came in as an existing IP, and ???
3 of them got new IPs because they didn't want to give up their existing IPs
Occam's razors.
but you can keep putting your head in the sand.
Sakana is not a dummy. He doesn't make bad deals. He is not gonna use and promote an IP he doesn't own, especially for someone who just bailed on her prior company and is always a flight risk.

>>75561031
>i-its not our job to police everyone
>just ignore the fact that no other company's fans act this way
>also ignore that pippa replies to the guy and also collabed with doxxagi
>also acting like a retarded catalogfag in her chat won't get you banned or even make you stand out

So Aviel said Encore girls get to keep their IP, but they had to sign a much longer contract in order to keep it. The implication I'm reading here is that, if you want to quit before the term is up, then Idol keeps the IP.

This seems like a terrible deal considering the smoke coming from Idol. Has Lisa been living under a rock? 2 of their top 3 talents are restarting their PLs. Their last invader got fired. a Gen1 quit. The lead talent manager was fucking the talents.

>>75571312
>The lead talent manager was fucking the talents.
Maybe she saw that as a plus.

>>75571312
>The implication I'm reading here is that, if you want to quit before the term is up, then Idol keeps the IP.
No, they just can't use their model and character outside idol until the contract expires. Think of it like signing a player for a sports team for 2 years. They can quit playing, but they can't switch teams until the contract is up.

>>75571312
I'm looking forward to Lisa's 72 hour donothon with the rewards such as piss drinking, masturbation asmr and live wet farting

>>75571312
>The lead talent manager was fucking the talents.
So how do I become the talent manager of Lisa and Juna?

>>75516590
>Aviel has also gotten caught posting here himself.
proof

>>75515533
phasebro..

>>75516345
Ah, the Tony Khan strategy.

Nothing says authentic like putting authentic in your tag line.

>>75574476
they are backed by the israel company, which means the girls salaries are paid by US taxpayers

>>75570696
There's various adjustments that would make it worth it for him. Phase gets a bigger cut of profits, the contract is much longer and she can't use the IP outside of Phase even if the contract is terminated, she gets less support and has to pay for more of her own stuff, etc.

It's not like the IP itself is valuable once the liver quits anyway, the IP is far better used as a bargaining chip to get additional concessions or to use to keep the livers from quitting.

>>75575265
I've been shitposting with Gumi's for 2 years now. They have delusions of grandeur.
They thought Lumi was being paid 10k a day to stream genshin.
even when she was a lower 3view, they thought she is on the 70-30 twitch split that is reserved for 5 views.
they think she is way smarter than she is and is ahead in every deal.
the post ITT saying Lumi wasn't even smart enough to avoid the landmine of Cyberlive, when a retarded child like Lia saw it coming and knew it was bad business, kinda puts things into perspective.

>>75571312
This is what I don't get. Does he really think he can defend himself if any of them quits prematurely? How is he going to force them to stay? Their fandom will eat him alive. If he was sane he would do the opposite, sign shorter contract and support them so they feel happy. Expired contract is significantly better PR than terminated one, if it doesn't work out.

>>75575713
Even Lumi said, she didn't really understand her twitch contract. She also thought yt takes 50% cut, "same as twitch" she said. She's not really smart. I don't know why people think she is.

She didn't sell her IP to fish, though. She's not using brand account, for example.

>>75575713
lia is not as dumb as she plays on tv. that doesn't mean she can't have women moments, but she is prescient.

>>75575713
>>75575992
Realistically Lia made the choice based on some minor thing like the Phase interviewer being nicer to her or something. She has 0 business experience even if she's not as retarded as she plays at on stream.

>>75575990
>She didn't sell her IP to fish
We simply will not know until she graduates.

I assume Sakana would be saving the last 3 spots in his company (for the foreseeable future) for talents he knows are big - by all metrics she isn't that
Yeah she is friends with phase members and had people want her there, but it's a business, not a social gathering. Some of the rumored indies are high 3/4views with massive existing audiences for sakana to expand to

>>75576086
Nothing implies she did. She pays her editors, she has no brand account and has no manager. She stands completely outside the usual phase framework like no other chuuba in the company.

>>75576359
>Nothing implies she did
History implies she did >>75570696
Again, we will not know until she graduates.

>>75576065
She said there were no written contracts at first. Yunity was shitshow of the highest caliber and didn't get much better.

>>75576359
and that's why she is not really a factor in the big picture of Phase Connect and doesn't mean as much to the company image/brand like about 10 others.

>>75513119
Imagine being sakana and you cant even poach plappas best friend

>>75576452
There are visible proof of that not being the case. I don't know what more to tell you.

>>75571312
>if you want to quit before the term is up, then Idol keeps the IP.
No, that's exactly not the implication. The implication is that the talent gets to always keep their IP, even in the event of a contract breach, but she obviously would have to pay the usual fines associated with such a move.

I saw some retard yesterday try to peddle this as some sort of gotcha against idol, when they wouldn't have any benefit from holding the talent's IP hostage. In vtubing, an IP is a one and done deal most of the time. You will not see a character get piloted by anyone but the original talent in almost all cases. The only reason you could project onto idol for wanting to do that is to extort the talent after a contract breach/termination.

>>75576512
Lumi is one of the pillars of Phase Connect. Her humor and content is integral to the brand Phase has built and she will always be one of the company's most important members. Lia and Pippa both consider her to be honorary Gen 1 and she is very close with a lot of Phase members.

>>75576909
lumi is a pillar of phase connect if there are 8 pillars

>>75577053
Pippa, Tenma, Lia, and Lumi.

>>75576909
>>75577169
the pillars of phase connect are Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Uruka.
they are the foundation in which the house rests on.

>>75576336
He said he has plans for 3, not that he has 3 spots left. If he could score 5 4views he would.

>>75577053
>>75577169
If we're talking cultural pillars from which Phase was built, those are the 4 english speaking Origins girls: Pippa, Tenma, Uruka and Lia.

If we're talking company pillars as in those carrying the business forward, it would be those with the biggest audience and most regular streams schedules, so Pippa/Tenma/Shiina/Lumi, or replace Lumi with Dizzy (unbelievably enough) if you don't count Twitch

>>75577220
>Uruka
lol

>>75560920
>great singing
>kino music composition streams
>kino dev streams
>kino art streams
>kino presentations on the history of video games
somehow an anon finds this boring
which might be why she has so many ojisan buckos

>>75577377
>those carrying the business forward
Airi and Lia make the company more money than Lumi and Shiina and Tenma.

Is this the type of discussion that happens in /pcg/ often? The pillar-talk?

>>75577502
Tenma makes way more than them when you factor in her twitch, but you have to factor in Tenma streams more hours in 1 week than Lia will stream in 1 month. Airi is an insane dono baiter she is good. if Lia and Airi streamed as much as Shiina, Lumi, Tenma they would probably be close to Pippa money.
There is a reason why when the first Mahjong sponsorship happened, it was Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Airi. It's because Sakana needed it to sell well in order to keep the relationship going. Lia and Airi make money.

>>75577726
no, this guy is a schizo from the Lia split who constantly talks about it

>>75577053
phase, like any company, has brand ambassadors.
their top ambassadors i would say based on a totality of things and how they are presented:
pippa, tenma, lia, uruka, shiina, lumi, and clara.
panko could. hime could. eimi could. maybe airi if she quit her job.
it's a 27 person company, so it's healthy to have 8-10 or so core figures.

>>75572938
Same but I want to be manager of Juna and Ruby so I can fuc........I mean help them.

>>75577377
if there was a mount rushmore of phase connect, it's the 4 english gen1. sucks to be the others, but they got here first they are the 4 founding fathers that is just how it works.

>>75579039
>hime could
bitos are so fucking delusional

>>75576065
Lia had also never streamed before and couldn't (still can't) sing. Sakana picked her out immediately because of her personality and said the rest didn't matter, which is pretty appealing and was a trap. Of course, he'd cooked up a retarded scheme where she could be taught by her more experienced coworkers doing double duty as managers. She also had very limited input on her model and was micromanaged into playing a restrictive character, so working for Sakana turned out to be kinda AIDS.

>>75582629
Rie is the Tenma of Alias and the face of Phase Music
#2 in subs and she does better than all the people not in the big 6 at getting collabs herself to try and get Phase exposure

>>75582945
Given her personality I think being restricted and heavily directed was good for her. She seems like the type to give up quickly when given a blank canvas, but once she kinda understands what she's doing will knock it out of the park with dedicated autism.

>>75513788
yes

>>75513788
yup

>>75583336
you are on crack

>>75513119
I'm not usually racist but I'll make an exception for this even if it's bait.

Keep that chinese chink nigger Sakana away from the my spiderhag and kys OP

>>75594937
Thats what they all say, Hitler.

>>75595443
I'll start the 4th reich if it means keeping phaseniggers away from a favorite chuuba of mine

>>75513119
okay but how the fuck did idol get punkalopi too? that girl has more subs than all of phase lmao

>>75599345
she has dead subs.
her viewership as punkalopi would be good enough for 25th in phase

>>75513119
sucks in general I guess

why is this still being necro bumped?

>>75605278
I mean it's an interesting question. Phase was known as one of the best poachers of large indies and other small corpos in the West, but lately it seems like Idol is a bigger draw and managed to get a lot of girls I assumed were going to end up in Phase.

>>75513119
the girls were shit as expected, sakana W

>>75609244
I was expecting more from the debuts. I can tell why Sakana didn't want to poach them, they just weren't good enough for Phase.

phaseethe lol

>>75569327
Mio is more menhera than the most menhera phase member. She can't be controlled

>>75610765
tsunbro your inferiority complex is showing again

>>75610943
I watch phase girls. I don't watch mio anymore because she lets schizos live rent free in her head and her idea of gfe is sharia law levels of insane

>>75611606
Mio is not even top 5 craziest small corpo vtubers of all time

the worst actual brainworms mio gets are from her relentless perfectionism as she has a severe case of korean parents. aside from that, she's pretty amazing. taking gfe as seriously as she does is smart, knowing how particular subhumans can get about it. can't blame her for the seanig schizos. most of them are ex-holo schizos anyway, so be mad at them if anything.

>>75521095
heh

>>75612462
mayhaps

>>75513119
He just needs to get Mint Fantome to mog all these 3 nobodies

>>75614788
Who?

>>75614951
punkalopi, lisa and tomko or whatever her name is

>>75615150
No, who is Mint Fantome?

>>75618454
Pomu's indie persona. She returned to vtubing last month.

>>75618454
Pomu Rainpuff. biggest free agent in vtubing.

>>75516654
>>75557022
I'm curious about the connection since Dizzy was also Shiina's manager at one point.

>>75619748
dizzy was a manager for phase from may 2022 until march/april 2023

Dizzy was a terrible talent manager
>when Sakana started Phase, he asked Dizzy about hiring Pippa, Dizzy said not to because she was a liability
>if Sakana doesn't hire Pippa, then he doesn't get Tenma because Pippa recommended her for Phase. Phase also doesn't eventually get Lumi.
>when Sakana asked Dizzy about hiring Shiina, Dizzy said not to because of her PL yab
>when Sakana asked Dizzy what he should do with Lia after her yab, she said to fire her
>Dizzy organized a small corpo blacklist against Cyberlive because Hylo made a harmless joke about her sibling dying (Ria, who left to be Rosemi)
>her last gift to Tsunderia before quitting was hiring males
so basically if Sakana had listened to Dizzy, Phase Connect would be dead like Tsunderia because all of the talents who have contributed the most to building Phase would have either not happened or would have been fired.

>>75622279
Don't forget about her focus on transparency.

That said, I disagree about her being a bad talent manager. That she makes bad business/hiring decisions does not preclude her from being good at the rest of her duties.

>>75622279
>if up to dizzy, phase would not have pippa, tenma, lia, lumi and shiina
those 5 with supas/membership/merch/elements added together have probably made phase connect $1,000,000+ and soon to be 5 playbuttons
dizzy is an absolute nonce

phase vs. phase let's fucking gooooo

>>75623130
nobody hates Phase Connect more than Phase fans uniroincally
why do you think they have so many generals?

>>75623194
to get away from pipfags?

>>75513119
Vshojo is the designated poacher

>>75577419
Uruka and her clan of ten thousand cubs form a strong foundation

>>75623048
Nonce means pedo

Lisa must be punished for her sins against Fishman, I am calling for TSD brothers, rise up and wage jihad against the enemy

>>75537354
If Aura didn't have GX in front of her name, she would be literally nothing. If she wasn't the "browser vtuber", we wouldn't be talking about her right now. I'm sure she's a nice chuuba, clearly talented and I enjoyed what I saw from her debut. But I don't think anyone would really describe her as being particularly unique.

bump if you're a faggot

>>75631962
no

>>75622279
>>75622773
>>75623048
Dizzy has alpha-bitch energy, which is necessary to wrangle other crazy bitches. Just don't let her make strategic decisions.

>>75513119
Initially it is sad to see Lisa go but things have been strange on her side so maybe it's for the best.

>>75622279
for the first year of phase pippa was the black sheep of the corp and iori had more subs than her, also at the time the culture wasmore centered on hololive's way of doing things and tsunderia was the first EN corpo trying to bring this culture to the west before even holo EN,
so no, Dizzy was 100% right about finding Pippa and others in 2021 unable to fit into that niche when sakana asked, she couldn't have predicted that she'd ride a content shift in the EN culture on youtube
also tsunderia's mess was mostly on PPP being a massive faggot that mistreated everyone, if she had had the right managers with her the corp would be doing very well for itself nowadays

>>75623229
no, they'll tell you that all the time but for the most part pippafags will only post on her timeslot and most have left the general all together, usually the worse is whenever jidf decides to act schizo towards them or some retarded indie drama happens and some are randomly dragged into it

>>75638978
>she couldn't have predicted
Then what are managers for?

>>75640697
managers are good at knowing current trends, but unless you're hiring a priest to read into the guts of animals they're not going to be predicting the future, hell, they already have to schedule and deal with all the other shit on the back end for you already

>>75642831
If all you do is follow current trends you're never going to make it big.

>>75643034
yep, but most businesses never do that, especially when she was the only manager for all the girls in the corp back when the culture was the most strict and most didn't even consider EN talents as actual vtubers