/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75389170
If you weren't mad you wouldn't respond. No one cares about your opinion

>>75389241
Catch 22

>>75389170
>Sana/Magni/Vesper
Sana??? Huh???

pls give me an opinion 4chan

>>75389170
I dislike everything in this except long-term thinking and planning

>>75389170

some people have different tastes from you

the guy isn't trying to change hololive. who gives a fuck

>>75389170
who wrote this?

>>75389170
I genuinely don't get why they NEED cross-gender interaction. Even from a "progressive" mindset it doesn't make sense. What's wrong with a space for women to make a name for themselves without tying themselves to men in some way? Aren't feminists supposed to love that kind of thing?

>>75389170
Grow some balls and don't get panic attacks whenever you read something you don't agree with.

>>75389170
Wow this starts off really convincingly looking like AI generated parody

I think the best way to respond is, how would Kaela put it...
gsh

>>75389170
kill yourself :)

>>75389170
>all six continents
Antarctica bros...

I'm not reading all this from whats probably from a Youtube or Reddit comment.

Kill yourself OP.

>>75389427
Vtubing is bizarro world where there are activists everywhere crying about men being discriminated against

i hate transformers

They fail to realise that the reason NijiEN has failed is precisely because of the first bullet point and partially the second. Hanamori was the first point absolutely personified and that is what inevitably caused friction to a large extent because people pushing "diversity and inclusion" are almost always not actually doing that for positive reasons.
I'd also argue that the forth one doesn't apply to Hololive and that's a good thing - that was another major reason Niji in general is struggling, because they expanded far too quickly to a much too large size.

>>75389427
Because >muh evil idol chulchurr

>>75389170
Extremely failure ahead
>All of them will have to have the exact LGBT mindset otherwise the fags and trannies will clash every so often
>niche doesn't equal success, the best is to hire charismatic people 100% than a special talent
>Having people on multiple different timezones becomes a scheduling nightmare, not only in collabs but for meetings cause the staff will be most likely living in a single timezone
>What long term planning and thinking even means here? will the asshole make a 1year plan expecting nothing might go wrong?

>>75389427
>>75389592
No, the difference is that their audiences are overwhelmingly male. So, they categorize them as falling under the male gaze trope and excluding cross-gender interaction is pandering to that.
If their audiences were predominantly female, then they would be praising it as girl-bossing.

>>75389170
I would just kill them. This kind of person doesn't deserve to live.

>>75389539
To me it feels like someobyd started with an AI prompt and tweaked it. So it feels human but also off somehow.
Not to mention how wrong some of it is, like how it implies a lack of talent diversity (literally all of the talents listed are represented in Holopro) or whatever that crap about Sana, Vesper, and Magni is.

>>75389427
to own the incels

>>75389170
Xe should try Tempus they're all LGTBAGT+ friendly (fags) and diverse (brown)

This is definitely AI-generated

>>75389170
why are these guys so obsessed with "cross-gender interaction". In literally any other field or context, an industry where women are centered and celebrated and have women-only spaces to succeed would be called a good thing.
Is it because men actually watch and enjoy this women-centric field, instead of stuff like the WNBA? Like it's only good if men don't enjoy it, and the fact it has male fans means it must be bad?

>>75390072
Based moderate

>>75389170
so retarded trannies got filtered by holo and too retarded to understand why niji failed are the reason why they love niji? good,holo winning and free from them while they can cry over niji forever.

pffft

what is this even from?

>>75389170
>Cross-gender interaction and LGBTQ+ support
Stopped reading there lol take your slop back to r/vtubers.

>>75389170
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
"I have THE perfect company for you!"

>>75390247
>Is it because men actually watch and enjoy this women-centric field... Like it's only good if men don't enjoy it, and the fact it has male fans means it must be bad?
Yes. Assuming you just woke up from a decade-long coma, welcome to modern western culture.

>>75389592
Not really if you understand how modern feminism works.
There's one thing they hate more than men. It's women that men like.
Any woman that is liked by men is their biggest enemy and they will do EVERYTHING to put her down.

>>75389427
If they're terminally on Twitter, your statement probably rhymes too closely with the shit TERFs like JK Rowling spout.

>lgbwtfbbq support
being a fujoshi has nothing to do with supporting lgbtq+ folx
>diversity in talents
talents are either from hanamori, chosen by them, or kicked out by them
>and perspectives
the only perspective is failing to mature out of high school ideology
>lifting the most boats
the yacht is not floating
>international appeal
they had the opportunity then lost the mandate from china just as hololive left that place
>long-term planning
managers do not speak english and the planning went about as long-term as renaming NijiIN to EN

>>75389170
don't respond you fucking idiot, that easy

>>75389305
Sana was an artist first and not really a music person, I’d wager? Not that he’s right about talent diversity, just explaining his thoughts.

>>75389427
do you think this lgbtq+ people care about women?, they want to replace them, they hate women and because the organization they want to be in has to be pro lgbtq+ it means they will get preferential treatment over real women.

>>75389170
Who you?

>>75389170
I would tell him close but no cigar and good luck to you sir or ma'am.

>>75389427
Many feminists don't like coomer pandering or unicorn pandering. In theory they want fans to only watch them for their content with no emotional attachment. The ideal would be for them to not even use a vtuber model but they still want viewers to watch their channel.

>>75389427
They don't care about the girls, they hate vtubing because it's popular with undesirable men so they want to destroy it

>>75389427
Unironically out of the scope of this thread or board.
Progressivism also has a sexual culture, as many political movements do, even if it isn't at the center or even talked about much. A guess would be that Hololive is seem to be pandering to male tastes, which they would argue is sexist because straight male taste are kind of sexist by default within progressive analysis. I guess if Hololive had that tumblr style they would defend it because then it would be seem as closer to progressive ideology. This is why it doesn't help to look at polical movements as this super rigid things, yes they should promote it since its largely a female space driven by women, but the whole thing is really a little too second eave feminist by now, particularly from a western progressive lens. Also this is not exclusive to progressivism but more like a quirk of political movement, an example on the right is many people who push "trad" views pushing a game like Stellar Blade because its the opposite, a feminized female character even if its technically very second wave feminist in its own way, and as such not very "trad". Dont look for strict ideology in politcal movements, sometimes things are just opportunistics or just not very logical, which to he fair is how people are and movements are full people.

>>75389170
>shiori: writer
>kronii/nerissa: va
>mumei: singer
>biboo: gamer
>ina: artist
wtf, also
>lifting the most boats
he means letting others leech?

>>75389663
They can be cool sometimes

>>75389305
it's because she's brown

>>75389170
"chutzpah" huh... Why are they like this?

>>75389170
>Chutzpah
Who could be behind this post I wonder?

>>75389170
I'd say that they need some entrepreneurial spirit, if they believe there's a gap in the market that current corpos aren't providing then the best course of action is to fill that gap, not whine that the current players aren't pandering to your specific demands.
If it all goes well then you've cornered a new market and made bank, if it doesn't then you've learned an important lesson that just because you like the idea of something doesn't mean everyone else does and you can't force people to shell out for entertainment that they don't like or want.

>>75389170
"I'm sorry you feel that way"

>>75391563
>mumei: singer
...Mori?
>but i don't like her and/or her music!
Regardless of your or my opinions on her music (i don't really care for them, aside from a few), she has done the most musical work out of any other EN. She is THE musical holo in EN, possibly even in Hololive as a whole, besides girls like Suisei

>>75389170
>LGBTQ+
Its LGBTQIA+ biggot kys

>>75389170
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That's it

>>75389305
I guess the back injury thing (depending on how serious you believe it really was) would have kept her from doing any kind of 3D idol activities? Same way Fulgur will never be able to do 3D.

>>75389427
The person in question (and others like her) hate the male fans, which means that what the male fans like (gender separation) is bad even if it's in line with other values this person might have. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

>>75389170
>talents from all six continents AND MORE
baka hololive discriminates against martians

>>75389305
She's an underprivileged minority (Aussie).

>>75389170
are nijitweeters ok?

>>75389561
McMurdo has Starlink coverage now, no reason you couldn't have a chuuba streaming from there.
Mint would fucking love it.

>>75391869
To be fair its a word thats broken into mainstream usage, same as shekel or kvetching

>>75389170
Tf is this shit from? Twitlonger? No one needs to see your opinion bro