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>>75341732*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holosongs.com/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/
Is this about iluna? Basically sacrificed by Anycolorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1ChawvCmg
>>75341695>>75341695Why are nijiwomen like this?
>>75341384What do you think?
>>75341732>nene OPThis thread will be good
>>75341954>Vshojo merchOof
>leeching vshojoHave phasefags reached a new low?
>>75342025
I think Nene is retarded.
>>75341954South Park Fractured but Whole is not a good game
>>75341954I want to FUCK shiina until she is PREGNANT with 20 BABIES (because she lays eggs).
>>75342053how many fat fucks do we have in hololive?
>>75342120onethey're all (you)
>>75342053
>>75342120Too many
>>75341894Bait? At this point, there is no surprise an nijihomo joins a female stream whenever they want.
>Buckshot Roulette solo stream thumbnail>The actual stream
>>75342074Retardedly fuckable.
Bye Bey Whori
>>75342168
Stop shitposting
>>75341954I'm curious how many of those are raids.
>>75342201
>>75342262
>just woke up>fuwawa about to gain 2k subs in one stream just by doing a #shorts gaming streamWait it's really this easy? Why doesn't everyone do this? They're going to get more subs from this than they did for some of their golden week jp streams.
>>75342184>israel>"""""solo""""" stream>males>chang gachasasuga nijiCN
>>75342117>WontonKeep your cuck fetish to yourself buddy.
/biz/ here. It is done, I'm all in in Cover Corp., bought a shitton of shares. Fiscal Year results May 13th
>>75342239ok
>>75342184The Nijisanji EN special: expect solo stream with a girl, get multiple guys in a Discord call
>>75342287My last Pero
>>75342344
>>75342313No Mococo debuff
How come mascot designs are just boiled down to different flavors of "fat fuck"?
>>75341890Yes, his specific comments are about Iluna being a counter-move to Tempus. And his general point is about Nijisanji. This thread had noticed years ago that Anycolor was "counterprogramming" Cover stuff in a way that could only be done with a nijispy. We used to talk about it a lot more when NijiEN looked like an actual competitor to HoloEN for a few months there.Generation debuts, and their famous panicked attempt to preempt CtW with NijiEN AR Live, and probably more stuff I'm forgetting.
>>75342246Lol the top 4 are raided. Specially the forth one, was raided 2 times.
>>75342196Oy Vey Bulkin!
>>75342322>/biz/>moronEvery time
>>75342046that's not even a vshojo...
>>75342313The only fucking people who haven't done shorts streams are Fauna, Kiara, Ina, and the people who are literally not around.
> 奏 / Kanade (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>symmetry *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=5ADaIvhhcCU>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>75342318I want to be the NTR guy, I am the fat bald bastard with a 20 inch dick.
>>75342313Another short gaming stream soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYUtMzwJeo
>>75342423I almost forgot Tempoop and iluna debuted almost the same time
[Mori news]She likes her fat tits and will not be getting rid of them
>>75342322Eh...it will keep declining because is overvalued.
>>75342322What broker did you use?Also I hope you mean figuratively all-in and not literally.
>>75342322>investing on JP stocks
>>75342550Fauna and Kiara have pretty much vowed not to do #shorts streams. I don't see them doing it.
>>75342574Shorts for Touhou actually makes sense than for most games because the game is already vertical
>>75342322You will never lose if you never sell.
>>75342638/biz/ here. Japanese bank because I live in Japan. If you live in EU, I think Degiro lets you invest in JP stocks. Interactive Brokers for US
>>75342313putting the sub counter also helps, some extra incentive. Still dead subs though
>>75342322If I buy $10k of stock and it someday goes fully private again, will I be part of the private ownership group if I don't sell to yagoo? Can I be one of the elites pulling the strings from the shadow all for the paltry some of low five figgies?
So, if you had the chance for a low budget vtuber concert, would you take something like this? It seems kinda scuff but also seems really personal and close.
>>75342680If fauna brings up the topic again, I will keep recommending vertical ASMR.
>>75342423Didn't council an a Niji female wave debut around the same time?
>>75342970Just SC her about it. It only pops up like once every 3 fucking months at this rate
>>75342953Everyon starts somewhere on their idol journey. I'd go if my oshi did something like that.
>>75342917Nta but i think they will force you to sell with premium price.
>>75342953If I was following a tiny little group with a few hundred fans I'd absolutely love that, that's early street-idol kino but vtuber version.
>>75342953More people than the idol group we saw the other day.
>>75342953It looks better than niji.
[Whori News] She ate an entire convenient store
>>75342953Depends on the price for the ticket. If I had a 2view oshi, this would be more than enough
>>75341954How much of the NijiEN decline was inevitable rot and how much was the Selen shitshow? I have a theory that only the nutters defend Nijisanji and will continue to do so but the more normal people are just fucking off. Kinda like how Luca gachis swear up and down the leaks mean nothing but then his SCs and viewership falls off a cliff.
>>75342953For a small group? That looks fun yeah.
>>75342953It's better than that idol group crying on stage while their one fan jammed out.
>>75343029That was Gen 5 and Selejo iircWhats funny is that notakane did imply that they were a counterwave
>>75342953If Cover do something like this, the ticket's price will be 100$+
>>75343096I don't get those "underground idols" though. Like, why would you humiliate yourself by performing somewhere with less than 5 people watching?
>>75342423 Let's see if it keeps happening now that omegatroon is out, although I don't trust the homos and their management
>>75342550Kiara was the first to a shorts stream
>>75343234If cover did that, it would be shilled as a private karaoke meet and greet. Fans would be killing each other to spend that 100 dollars.
>>75343279 (me)Now that I think about it, they already failed counter programing advent debuts.
>>75343298Man I don't even remember that, then I guess remove her from the list. But it's still a fucking short ass list because everyone else has been doing them.
>>75343279Isn't the guy >we think is Omega a big niji fan?
>>75342953IRL shorts stream
>>75342184Thanks for the heads upTO THE CATALOG
>>75343192Council had their debut on August 2021, OBSYDIA had theirs July 2021. They had a little predut talk in twitter
>>75343100Oof don't remind me
>>75343279>omegatroon was a nijispy trying to destroy hololive all alongI hope that tranny got blacklisted and never finds employment ever again.
>>75342953That kinda looks like the rocket girl on the right. I wouldn't think she'd try to go the idol route.Also yeah, an event like this with my oshi and my mates would be fun. Nothing wrong with it unless it was a billion dollar corpo charging $150 behind it.
>>75343234Okayu got one for free.
>>75343492I know Topaz is cute, but is she really worth making a thread on /vt/ about?
>>75343532obysdia was the reject wave from lazulight same way xsoliel was the reject wave from ilunathey were "hired" the same time as lazulight anon
>>75343751They can choose when to drop them
Gonna watch Kronii
>>75343726When I said to the catalog, I mean I already did it>>75343404
>>75343298Which stream?
>>75342322how do you buy jp stocks outside japan
>>75343551That is Clear Rocket on the right. She has an idol unit called Clear Sky, the other girl is her partner. She wants to be an idol but she also wants to be a rocket girl.https://youtu.be/jPEVFiINGWY
>>75343374>Now that I think about it, they already failed counter programing advent debuts.that one was due to the krisis leak debuts destroying their timetable
>>75343878>She wants to be an idol but she also wants to be a rocket girl.She can be both.
>>75342184All this still lost to Homo
>>75341890qrd?
>>75343916Oof
>>75341954Is there some drama about Shiina? Baggage?
>>75343924>he wants the quick ruff downBaubau, guess it's time to not hold my bark back...>orphaned and adopted into a Noble demon dog litter>final students of a legendary guard dogs>secret daughters of the mysterious big BAUd who's actually good>such stacies that they not only add every Holo to their ever-expanding harem but also the Nijis>her genmates and her friend (who is a literal rock)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer sound of their BAU BAUs>chosen to become the new oshi of the holofan-refugees>masters and can fully control their *psh nothin personell kid" demonic guard dog powers>wields shredder's steel claws (an anime-like and cooler Wolverine claws) and can teleport behind you>beats one of the most powerful fairies in history that's hyped up by all the Nijisisters>grows up to become full grown puppies, can make all the ruffians, rufferans, wuffians parasocial>just saying "BAU BAU" makes everybody drop their pants for them>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional yab that appears at the last second>is technically royalty, their biological father is the reincarnation of the founder of the Northwest Passage>breaks up budding romances between other Holos that were developing before Advent because everybody sucks thei dicks in the 4th gen onward>even the protagonists of previous gens hype them up>can get with and utterly dick down any Holo of their choosing>Mococo kills herself in a noble self sacrifice with her fujobait sister to commit the final yab but not really because the even bigger bigger yab comes along to get the true Fuwamoco ending>becomes some of the strongest chuubas on the continent>has the option to cuck Nerissa away from Kiara, Biboo away from Kaela, Pekora away from Miko, etc.>now a future 3D version of theirselves from an alternate timeline is trying to kill them because they're too stacy>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought their franchise to the spotlight,>made it so that the majority of the franchise's clips are about them>is Yagoo's favorite Hololive chuuba, he even goes on to call the previous generations embarrassing
>>75343912She is rocket idol
>>75342322You should leverage yourself, buy on margin, to the max. Curious, how tall is the tallest building where you live?
>>75343269Just part of the culture I guess. The struggle is endearing and fosters deep and strong instincts to SAVE. Still, I expect, like most creative endeavours, that 95% of underground idols never make it after years of grind.
>>75343786depends since according to ex-vta livers their no online presence before debut contract only extends to 6 months after getting hired
>>75342423Reminder that Tempus' auditions were announced just hours after Iluna's
>>75344129It was 6 to 12 months.
>>75342423>panicked attempt to preempt CtW with NijiEN AR Live,At least they got it eventual and it wasn't horrid.
>>75344038I heard that even the rothschilds BAU to FuwaMoco
>>75344129https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1415128919624269828Obysdia's trailer dropped on July 13, 2021.https://youtu.be/OLcSRCEZuiw?=6SXQc10y3RyRGOgCThe first teaser for council was on July 31, 2021.They tried to snipe them with their own second gen.
>>75341954Tempus > NijiEN doryaa!
Man the shiori debuff is real… Nerissa couldn’t even get 10k on the offcollab
>>75342093stick of destiny's supposed to be good though, right?
>>75342423does NijiJP and HoloJP do this as well? or it's isolated to the EN branches
>>75344507CHU!
>>75344448That's a group collab that got IRL raided by another Homo offcollab.
>>75344474stick of truth? there's a stick of destiny?
>>75344507chu
>>75344431when was dokibirds last activity before debuting in obsydia? if its within 6-12 months then it would make sense
>homovermin thinking they aren't the same cancer as nijicn
>>75344507CHU CHU CHUCUNNY CHUPLAPPY CHU
>>75344519They tired to debut an all girl wave during holofes a few years back.
>>75344507chuchuchu
>>75344196>fags and fujos are mentally illshocker
>>75344507chu chu chu chu
>>75344038bau bau...
>>75343492>>75343817Why would you asmit to posting bait on the catalog?Why would you even post it to begin with?
>>75344539er, right, stick of truth
/#/ is losing
>>75344519>does NijiJP and HoloJP do this as well? or it's isolated to the EN branches>anon memoryholing selejo being a counter to gen 5 or nijijp debuting a wave during holofes
>>75344593https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1393282990612963329May 14, 2021. 3 months.
>>75344448Go Shinri go!
>>75342953Already did, well it's a little bigger though. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1IfVUcjDkIg
>>75343179context and clips please?
>>75344840I wish I lived near Akihabara so I could go to random tiny vtuber and idol events on weeknights and be one of the 20 people in the crowd. Sounds fun.
Guess when UMJ was running youtube ads
>>75344519>Any Color investorsThink about profit.>Cover investorsThink about Nijisanji's profits.>RikuThinks about Cover and profits. vtubers are a means of making money.>YAGOOThinks about defeating Disney and making Japanese culture eternal through the multiverse as the digital world evolves. vtubers are a means for culture.At least the JP organs seem to respect and look up to holos and vice versa. Most EN organs hate Hololive for some odd reason.
>>75344890https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/74773867/#74774659
>>75344597considering a nijisanji fan literally killed an old couple just to steal money to buy merch and scnijisanji is a lot worse
Why do Moris own subs hate her so much? She barely scraped out 5k on a special stream, she got pretty much the same on a fucking RDR stream the other day.
bros.... is mococo okay?
otsuray~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41gtZx7akM
>>75344762GRIMeven those numbers are more important than CCV
>>75344988>https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/74773867/#74774659>1st anniversay liveNIgga...... I won't be able to sleep tonight
>>75345059yes she's resting with me on the bed(there's no furniture in our house yet) while we watch Fuwawa's stream
>>75344762maybe the schizos will finally leave
>>75345131you asked for it
>213 gifted memberships
>>75344762Slow /#/ is best /#/
>>75344655It's not bait if it's realAlso harvesting nijiseethe is everyone's job
I had a thought today, what if the current Niji malaise was always their true numbers? What if Riku was botting NijiEN since day one and he only decided to cut his loses now after the Selen yab.
>>75345179tbf she turned off SCs
>>75345021have you tried watching her? It's not easy
>>75344934>At least the JP organs seem to respect and look up to holos>memory holing all those times nijijp organs took a shit at holos
Fuck
>>75345179Deadbeats are giftsluts. I immediately get a gifted membership any time I so much as click on one of her streams.
>>75345021>on a special streamliterally nothing special about the stream she's literally catching up on superchats from her BD
>>75345245That was before they got buck broken. I mean even Ibrahim kneeled when he had a chance to speak to Botan.
why doesn't riku just auction off EN to another company? it's a win-win for both the organs and niji
Mori gone, I told you I would keep you updated but she didn't talk about anything that would be of interest to the average numberchad. Pretty comfy and personal stream tho. She raided Kronii btw
>>75344762
>>75345214you would expect the opposite to be true, though. start salvage botting your failing en branch to keep up the perception that everything is fine and make it through one more quarter with only a moderate price drop instead of a nosedive
>>75345214nah doesnt fit since even the niji fan discords and fb groups were more active before the selen debaclethough activity started reclining after the yugo thing
>>75345329>going away surgery stream isn't specialI'd agree with you if it had>ANNOUNCEMENTplastered all over it. She'll probably somehow get even less views when she comes back too against all odds.
>>75345380Why are SEAs more active online than any other regions?
>>75345353>Bad PR>Lose control over what they can say about the company>International defeat
>>75345342>That was before they got buck brokenthey still shit on holos when given the chance even recently anona good example is amamiyas mod (who she actually hasnt removed despite saying otherwise)
>>75344762What's going on in /lig/It's been more active lately
>>75345179>giftedlol
>>75344890this was discussed a week or so ago >>74774659https://twitter.com/hatoden_ayame/status/1784934887348388345
>>75345353Investors are expecting him to bring in more profits via overseas expansion. Selling off EN would cause investors to flee
>>75344762>Phase general is called /peg/Heh, that's funny. Where does the e come from though?
>>75345509Dude was literally bragging about the dirt he had. It's more about self preservation than hating Hololive.
>>75345008>committing crimes to fund MALE nijisWhat is actually wrong with nijicucks?
>>75345179Millie got 1500 one time
>>75345556it's a C anon
>>75345342>>75345509Or the nigger male niji elf singing a pekora disstrack on stream some anti made
>>75345556anon, I think you need to schedule an eye appointment
>>75345549I see two people there...
>>75345592nah if you actually followed the yab you would have seen that he had a ton of old tweets shitting on holos. 774 and .livethe "worse" thing he did agains niji was the pubic hair thing and even then that was a yab on its own since the person who started that discussion was the rm of a smaller liver
>>75345699That was in 2022 and he ate a 2 month suspension for it.
>>75344904Well, you could check your local Weeb or Vtuber community. There is a chance some of them might want to arrange a small idol concert. It's not the same, but it should be close enough.
>>75345710The other one was a staff member trying to create hype.
>>75345179not going to lie bros, I would fug mori if given the chance.
>>75345668Probably came straight from anycolor HQ. Seriously, can someone explain to me why the majority of superchats in their 3D events are JPY?
>>75345781>he ate a 2 month suspension for it.he only got suspended after sperging out in his rm anon
She lost the entire raid in 10 mins
>>75345781>>75345842We also only learned he got suspended after it was done
>>75345353To who?
>Fuwawa is 35Gross hag
>>75345904well, is it true chat?
>>75345935god i love childless hags so much
>>75345842He only sperged out because of the initial suspension. Also the last public suspension in Nijisanji IIRC.>>75345879No one with a braid thought it was for any other reason. >>75345765Not everyone stalks their mods.
A tale of 2 raids
>>75345549There was a 300% increase in the most recent concert. With that kind of growth, things aren't looking so grimhttps://twitter.com/hatoden_staff/status/1786695262444134892
>>75342313>Wait it's really this easy?Yes. Did you miss Bae getting 4-5k each vertical stream a while back? She even got 4k subs on a vertical stream that averaged 5k ccv
>>75345990>double raiddoryaaaaaa
>>75345871>>75345990but what about the nijifamily...
>>75345944As a lowly item npc, yea probably.
>>75345935proof?
>>75345971>Not everyone stalks their mods.problem with that reasoning is that the guy was more than just a mod since he was a close irl friend to a number of livers
>>75345990>>75345871Nobody like watching Elira getting spit roasted. Not even nijicucks are that desperate
>>75342970She brought it up again recently. Chat seemed more receptive to the idea this time.Still not really expecting it though
I miss her
>>75345513The MSM thing had both sides being retarded.>some autist discovers that the second biggest talent agency LLC for indies is run by a jew who didn't renew the business license, so no liabilities are being limited>also he had a history of jewing out and ditching his clients in old companies>rumours of blacklist-like stuff start surfacing>jew starts being noticed as having been an attentionwhore since forever>one indie outside MSM, the jew company, pretty much confirms the blacklist being real>meanwhile one friend of that indie, a >male vtuber >totally not a sexpest, starts attentionwhoring and going DON'T MAKE ME RELEASE THE DOCUMENTS, also threatened to sue before deleting it after being told he was retarded>ended up saying he gave the receipts to someone with more experienceThat's everything until now. All of it spiced with /lig/ being even more of a battlefield for shills, the jew, the male attentionwhore, each of their apologists, and all manner of schizos.
>>75343152Hard to say but they were in a continual downward spiral before the Selen stuff, that just accelerated things
How much did she start off with?
>>75346327824k
>>75346320Yeah, you could see them holding out until the end of 2025 at the earliest. Now, I'll call it a miracle if they survive to see 2025.
>>75346291I did not ask nor do I care about your boring whore. Fuck off.
https://twitter.com/ChuanL3536/status/1788019732098285801?t=fFRAUxRBVI84uRgrghianA&s=19>buy limited time niji goods>money is deducted from your account>no confirmation email>no refund option if you miss the limited time goodshuh this is like the 8th complaint ive seen from japs ever since niji "fixed" their store
>>75346327That reminds me, Enna dropped another 1k today, even after her 3D debut
>>75345185...but it's the catalog.It makes you filthy.
Are we really watching Kronii? Why?
>>75346055Bros...
>>75345008Sisters??EXPLAIN!?!?>EXPLAIN!?!?EXPLAIN!?!?>EXPLAIN!?!?EXPLAIN!?!?>EXPLAIN!?!?EXPLAIN!?!?>EXPLAIN!?!?
>>75346433here ya go. just ask nicely next time sapling.
>>75346474you can't save them. only a rich ojisan can. and not in the way most girls want to be saved.
>>75346463Mori raided me into her and she has a good voice so I'm keeping her in the background as I farm in a JRPGslop game
>>75346506I want to kiss that tummy
>>75346443>he can't file a report without the order confirmationlmao
>>75346055>name of the first songi see they have that one everyday
>>75346443>>75346604>so scummy you need the confirmation to complainsasuga
>>75346327start: 824 200current: 826 800
>>75346660I didn't see that. Honestly the jokes write themselves but I can't really laugh for some reason.
fuwawa basically just confirmed 3d coming soon
>>75346320The Selen thing was really more of a paradigm shift than we think. It made NijiEN completely lose all sense of face in the West. No one of merit will apply. No one says anything good about them. Even minor shit no one cares about gets turned into something evil and terrible if Nijisanji happens to be tangentially related. Nijisanji kinda deserves it, don't get me wrong, but they've completely lost public faith. It's been 3 months and no one has gained subs. That is telling. The Selen thing did destroy their growth and I won't pretend it wasn't an important event.
>>75346784You fags have been saying this for like 3 months please fuck off I don't care until it's actually announced
>>75346604the fuckup with the recent fix in regards to nijisanjis store is insane and anycolor hasnt addressed nor suspended the site temporarily>a different address may pop up for shipping>voice packs having shipping fees>error which cause voice packs to be not downloaded even after payment>users getting the wrong voice in the voicepacks they bought (someone apparently got zaions vp)>payment not recorded in the pay history
>>75346850lmao seethe harder sis
>>75346850I do but I'll be sure to ignore your opinion on the matter for future reference.
>>75346909They're desperate. Like actually desperate.
>>75345353Niji made a big deal about overseas expansion being one of their key pillars for growth to investors, before everything went down.They can't really give up their only real remaining overseas branch I can't remember if their cn branch is actually dead or not
>>75346827>faithThis is so important. I mean people were pissed about the Mel situation but the main reason it came to nothing was faith.
>>75346909rrat: they are planned fuckups to wring more money out of people for the financial report
Who will NOT get guests for her 3D showcase?
>>75345904>Please play and meet meNo.
>>75346972>They're desperate. Like actually desperate.that and them firing a number of the old staff/support in 2023 while hiring only high school grads to replace them got them this result
>>75346909Did they outsource the site to my company or something?
>>75347054shioriand you WILL respect that
>>75346984That and not!Mel not giving any sign that this was Cover fucking her up, unlike many other vtubers that subtly complained about their "former workplaces".
Bae's a fucking idiot. She'll never get good CCV.
>>75346982They'll do like Cover.>What the audience wants is our unfiltered Japanese branch so the loss of our EN branch that no one cared about was negligible. We will continue our overseas expansion through the real Nijisanji that overseas fans want.
>>75347103They also let her give parting words on her twitter account when they didn't have to.
>>75347106What prompted this?
>>75347093see>>75347090its the end result of their retrenchment in 2023/2022 where they fired the only competent manager in EN and also fired maimotos manager who did a ton of stuff
>>75347137That literally isn't what Cover said at all.
>>75346909Ongoing shit since 2020. They're never going to fix it and their fans will just have to deal with it or move on.
>>75347103I mean notLolitits, notGundou, and notChihiro had genuine reasons to be pissed. I'm sure notPomu has stories too. Maybe people just blow off Niji lawyers since they lose so many cases but Cover lawyers are competent.
>>75347054literally who would join shiori
>>75347220anon, he's saying what niji would say, not what cover said
827k BAURYAAAAAAAA
>>75347276He just said>they'll do like Cover
>>75347220As long as Niji can twist the words the right way, it doesn't really matter.
>>75347244>Ongoing shit since 2020.nah they actually fixed it around early 2022it was the recent "fix" due to the store majorly fucking up a few weeks back that exacerbated the problems
>This month is very very very busy for FuwamocoOk 3D confirmed
>>75347179I saw that the stream was only 2 hours and I was confused because that's really short for a VN. Well there's 4 fucking parts to the VN and she plans to do each part in its own stream. 4 fucking streams of this shit.
>>75347306I said that to show how Niji would twist the words. I wasn't specific enough.
>>75347251>I'm sure notPomu has stories tooWhich she'll never share because she wants an idol career, and whistleblowers are a big no there.
>>75343549He's gainfully employed with his oshi: Anykara
>>75347106She has the best music views in Promise.
Off-topic numbers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLF2nYALgks
>>75346784What did she say? I'm watching Kronii
>>75347405Not trying to be a dick but she's too old. She can pursue an idol dream as a vtuber in Phase once they inevitably go that route.
>>75347460And also some of the worst SCs
>>75346827>The Selen thing was really more of a paradigm shift than we think.Well back when Selen had disappeared and Pomu had announced graduation (can't remember the exact timeline) some anons in this thread did accurately call that terminating Selen as well would pretty much kill their NA/western audience. Even without it going as badly as it did.Yeah I think everyone knows that they are fucked. What path forward do they even have
>>753463273k subs in 1 stream4k total today
>>75347093They stopped using Shopify and use some other service now. I guess they wanted to cut costs.
>>75347477they busy, secret stuff
>>75347620The only way out I see is going full redeemed mode a la no man's sky, but that would take effort
>>75347471Next time film your screen with a Sony Venice 2
>>75347350They'll be making cameo appearances at ARMIS's 3D debuts
>>75347620>Well back when Selen had disappearedMan that reminds me that i told a bunch of retards in the selen hospital thread back then that her medical bracelet color indicated a suicide precaution pt and people said that i was just a jealous holofag or something
>>75347340Didn't the fuck ups start after they said they did an update to their JP store?https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1783790650854707598https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1785474358385033267https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1785505358334832767https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1785897077119267158https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1786214177318830212
>>75342184AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HAVEN'T UPDATED THE GAME YET
>>75347620For me and many others, there is no path forward. But the general public has a short memory. If they keep their noses clean and put out some decent content, they'll eventually start gathering fans, when the casual audience finds a new whipping boy. They seem to be incapable of even the bare minimum IF requirements though.
>>75347106
>>75347686only way they would get redeemed is if they let go of the livers that are the root cause of the problems but that would also open up another can of worms
>>75347811I will never understand the purpose of posting this in the numbers thread.
>>75347730Who?
>>75347757Yeah, some of the japs are blaming the fix/update for the fuckups
>>75347686They can’t do that, it’s impossible. They have to fix JP before they can start on EN
>>75347780NijiEN still gets massive SEA and HK mindshare based on the photos shared here
>>75347368Okay yeah, that's not a great idea
Will 3d save shiori?
shortsGODS
>>75347106Her CCV is fine with Sekiro. It's not great but it's passable. Bae has never gotten big numbers though.
Clown man > NijiEN
>>75347902>NijiEN still gets massive SEA and HK mindsharelelmost of the big nijien fan meetups here have basically died and nobody is trying to revive it
>>75347811Me on the right
>>75343269>>75344103NTACan you do that as some sort of side gig tho? If yes then I can understand somewhat
>>75347938Bettel buff stream because he flooded his bathroom by accident is telling the story about it
>>75347811Me under the desk
>>75348012Sure, why not? It's like how most low-tier Hollywood actors moonlight as waiters or some shit while trying to get their big break
>>75347989didn't they have a pretty big gathering in Singapore recently?
>>75347747Yeah they were running full damage control at that point.You could see some of them all over twitter/reddit. Quickly switched to talking about how great NijiJP were doing. How they made more money then anyone else and never had any drama. Before everything completely blew up anyway
>>75347460what is the point of views with sales like hers
>>75347919Shorts gaming and SC reading are fucking cheatcodes kek
>>75347924It's pretty entertaining how she goes from nearly crying in frustration to killing the boss while screaming. I generally don't like her normal streams though, her humor seems too childish and she's too much to handle most of the time.
>>75343916>Could have been a natty 2k without the raidShinri my man
>>75348012Why wouldn't they be doing side gigs? Rather being an underground idol is probably the side gig.most of niji jp work normal jobs and just side gig streaming
Just moved to Kronii. Hells he beefed up this car since the last stream.
>>75348090kek
>>75347938Homo fans =ex Nijiniggers
>>75347251Soon notRion and notLize
>>75347844I'm pretty sure that image is from here, some anon drew it when Bae got raided from, Fauna? Or someone, before raiding was a common thing in EN
>>75347938>now homoEN is dunking on nijiENIs this the greatest downfall in vtuber history?
>>75344601what was the name of the wave and did they actually get good numbers?
>>75348214>spoilerisnt that more of a necessity since they can live off of their niji revenue?iirc one of the jp females wanted to go on hiatus to find a job since her revenue cratered
>>75345179
>>75347656why isn't every talent doing this?
>>75344934>YAGOO>Thinks about defeating Disney and making Japanese culture eternal through the multiverse as the digital world evolves. vtubers are a means for culture.Ahem ...H O L O S T A R S
>>75347919Shortgrays are cute
>>75348247It's an edit from global of an image from here. I should know, I was here when both were originally posted.
>>75348265Not yet
>>75348216Yeah she’s been doing some grinding off stream
>>75348289(me)*they cant
>>75348310A bunch are, but not everyone cares enough to do it
>>75348090There was a big gathering at a Thai con for NijiEN with like maybe 100-150 fans. There was a picture posted here two days ago.
>>75348310Anyone who cares about getting subs has done it but yeah 3k for this shit game is pretty amazing.
>>75348287>what was the name of the waveRedonkulous>numbers35k-45k on debut, thrown into the sea of 1.2k organs.
>>75348326Well yeah the color edit was theirs
>>75348310They are
The better sister
>>75347844Worse things have been said about us, it’s funny image
>>75348314Everyone has a fatal flaw and Yagoo’s is his obsession with the homos
Why did Kendrick Lamar reference FWMC in his recent diss track?
>homos and homos enablersWe're reclining
>>75348336People still love Ai, original Ai.
>>75348455Kendrick hates pedophiles and is calling fuwawa out
>>75348203Don't watch stars at all, is he the most popular?
I never realized you could see the view rankings for membership VODs under the Popular tab by scrolling to the very bottom, that is cool
>>753476564K in a single day is amazing. I thought easy subs had already dried up for them. I wonder how well they will do tomorrow.
>>75348314Achilles' mother dipping him in the River Styx made his entire body invulnerable except for the part of his foot where she held him.
>>75348310There are a bunch doing it.
>>75348484All I ever see is people saying she just copies and steals work from real artists and anyone who likes Ai is subhuman trash. It's a different time.
>>75348468>cuckbeats and bratts
>>75348571Yeah but Watame is untalented and has no way to actually grow.
>>75347938>[Handcam] Japan’s 18 PROHIBITED Cunny…What the FUCK shinri
>>75348623go away sister.
>>75348314I understand why he’s desperate to make them a success but at some point he has to realize that it will never happen. It sounds like from Astel’s rant at least that other influential people in the company know to at least tell him to stop shoving money into the money pit by reducing their events.
>>75348536Tomorrow is Touhou. I don't think it will be. Shorts stream
Did Fuwawa raid Kronii?
>>75346909You know, despite all the issue with Hololive shop (Mostly shippings), it's still league better than this shit
>>75348495Huh, yeah you're right.You can get a view count to
>>75347780Yeah, peoples already calmed down and starting to forget before Niji decided to do the infamous black stream.
>>75348648Feel free to elaborate anon
>>75348747AI is getting there
>450k views after 10 days on an orisongwhat will cover take away from this? I just want more english songs, ENholos just sound weird singing in jap.
>>75348801Magic isn't real.
Would you rather>get anal twisted by Watamageor>get testicular torsion-ed by Faunamage
>>75348685Go away Homo Faggot
>>75348840If magic isn't real then explain why clouds float retard
>>75347780>But the general public has a short memory. If they keep their noses clean and put out some decent content, they'll eventually start gathering fansNah there is already a precedent of something like this happening in the past and that group just bled until they died despite having their noses clean after their drama
>>75348836you have haachama. All, but one song is 100% English.
>>75348410That is not the Noel I know.
>>75348488No, but i think this one actually a offcollab with the clown and the spic
>>75348866>If it hates cunny it's a sister>If it retaliates with cunny it's a phasefagNice Gura there phasefag
>>75348885Sio's fat ass came out on top.
>>75348860just kill me
>>75348885Or they can rebrand themselvesJust like Brave Group
>>75341890>disruptionkek, Holo and Niji have counterprogrammed each other since the early days of JP, where does this nigger thing the Nijikiller moniker came from. Aqua and Pekora streamed over every major 3D Live Nijisanji put out for like 3 years and vice versa with Kuzuha or some mailed in shit on the Niji channel, theyd sacrifice shitters' 3D Debut to try to sabotage Holo birthdays and shit
>>75347090Ah no wonder they posted a bunch of jobs herehttps://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=3910798631&f_C=29336876&geoId=92000000
>>75348715https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYUtMzwJeo???touhou is already vertical
>>75348925Nice gura homofag
>>75348488No it’s the clown by far.
>>75348927talking about gamebu anon>>75348930>Or they can rebrand themselvesonly way they could have done that is if the drama didnt go mainstreamonce it hit mainstream it was over
>>75348721no but she got a decent funnel
>>75348836Are we supposed to be impressed by this number?
>>75348836>shitter gets shit numbersFagoo will make her duet with a homo to save both of them
>>75347747My favorite was when they proved that you can just buy them over amazon as if she was faking.
>>75348410>Kronii way larger than Noel>Moona and Nerissa basically her sizethis is some cope
Fauna doesn't give a shit about her growth because she doesn't give a shit about Hololive, which is why she won't do shorts streams.
>>75348885Counterpoint
>>75348917>Shinri and Bettel are currently dying after eating Ghost Pepper Curry>Edit: Hakka ended his stream and went over to their room to join them.From Reddit. It was an offcollab with 3 homos
Too much pro homo talk in here, so answer this question. If you could forcibly terminate 3 homos, which would you fire?
>>75348925I love cunny and I hate Homos and Phase cucks
>>75348955>. Aqua and Pekora streamed over every major 3D Live Nijisanji put outthats a retarded reach for counterprogramingthats like saying niji was counterprograming holofes by having ars stream minecraft
>>75348972>Official artwork. You're going to have to do better than that phaseling.
>>75349080Vox, Luca, Uki
>>75349080Flayggot Aruran and Roberu
>>75349080>Gura>Fauna>MumeiThese 3 are the most problematic
>>75348963This disgusting numberfagging would not have happened if Mococo was still here
>>75349080Pizzafag, the cucker, and groombullet in that order.
>>75349080throw some darts at a wall or something, I don't know. How the fuck do you expect me to remember who they are.
>>75349080>Blue Homo>Red Homo>Dino Homo
>>75349103I also hate Homos and phasecucks. That faggot wasn't shitting on homos, he was doing HolovsHolo
https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1788054592070279322https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1788054592070279322https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1788054592070279322https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1788054592070279322https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1788054592070279322VCR MINECRAFT
>>75349069dont see how thats a counterpoint when aogiri still hasnt regained their past glory
>>75349080Roberu, Hakka and Miyabi would hurt the homos the most
>>75349181>Loose cunny It's homolover alright
>>75349202Dogshit
>>75349202I am forever thankful that my oshi doesn't speak Japanese
>>75347780the court of public opinion has already ruled Niji guilty. the GURRAT broke containment and went uncontested so the public at large decided it was the truth. anytime nijiEN does something the selen termination + alleged bullying will get brought up as well.
>Retards calling each other sisters and phase cucks>All while posting cunnyDid it occur to you faggots that you're on the same side, just with differing opinions?
>>75347620I knew it was completely over for Selen when she told people to reupload the cover. I just didn't know how over it'd get.
>>75349150put in Kiara. She's a blabbermouth (on stream and off stream). Omega and xis goons would still be in power if not for her meddling.
>>75349250I don't think cunnyposting disqualifies anyone from being a phasecuck.
>>75347902>>75347989Don't know about other anons, but for my country NijiEN still has more presence (Because fangirls and con organizers)
>>75349080Holostars Holostars ENNijisanji EN
>>75349202Wouldn't this be a even bigger debuff than Rust? Unless they're trying to bait certain vtubers in joining.
>>75349224I accept your concession phasefag
>>75349305> but for my country NijiEN still has more presencewhich countryif youre gonna say flipland then im gonna laugh at you especially with what happened with that con recently with regards to niji
>>75349250I don't trust anyone who shits on hololive members. I don't particularly care about their reasoning.
Big announcementhttps://twitter.com/vtuber0/status/1069209488438177793https://twitter.com/vtuber0/status/1069209488438177793https://twitter.com/vtuber0/status/1069209488438177793
>>75349384Thailand and Malaysia are still firmly NijiEN territories
>>75349384What happened in flipland?
The AkuPeko VOD views are pretty wild
>>75349330Ok homofag
>>75349324Unless they are aiming at Pekora, I do not know who they would aim for. Ao, Aki, Ayame and Bae are not the biggest fans of MC, and Mori and Anya only play for Holo stuff
>>75349391I mean, I love most Holo girls but there's some I dislike like Kronii and Ame. I'm not gonna pretend I like those.
>>75348721Fuwawa raided their FWMC morning waiting room kek
>>75349251https://files.catbox.moe/9qhexb.mp4
>>75349425Imageboard
math says ~6 weeks
>>75349220Aogiri may not be what they once were, but they've definitely not trending in the negatives anymore.
>>75349391I dont trust homococksleeve either
Is Hololive not having anything until Gamers Fes and after that? Where is news about Hololive City? Where is HoloSummer? This is so unlike Hololive
>>75349474Just because you said that I'll do it all in text:940k Pek890k Akwa
>>75349418a number of local cons have basically told people selling/showcasing niji stuff to stay in the back/area thats not visible to the guest. there was also a local cosplay even that had niji in their name post an announcement saying that they are not affiliated with anycolor despite leeching from the niji name in the past
>>75349409No sharia for NijiEN?
>>75349492>Aogiri may not be what they once were, but they've definitely not trending in the negatives anymore.yeah they are even in a worse spot which is apathy
>>75349458Not pretending you like them is one thing. Using them to start a Holo vs Holo timeloop is another. I'm not a fan of every holo, but I don't shit on them or use them to start inter Holo fan wars. I just don't watch them
How is HoloJP reaching new heights for CCV and VOD views while HoloEN keeps reclining? Not a single one of their streams hit 10k today.
>>75349409>Thailandlol nothe nijisanji thai fanclub page is basically dead and only has 1-3 guys interacting wheras same time last year you would have 30 to 50 people chatting in the page or messenger
>>75349608>How is HoloJP reaching new heights for CCV and VOD viewsThat's a funny way to spell ReGLOSS.
>>75349608>shioraven limiting themselves to 1hr max streams for some reason>fuwawa debuff slop>bae debuff slop>Mori SC reading>Kronii debuff slopmaybe EN should play some fucking real games. JP has been playing buff shit since April
>>75349665Regloss is not part of HoloJP.
>>75349409i dont think any of the nijien got a tuktuk ad this year
>>75349202Watame maybe?
>>75349558I think they were making a comeback but sisters for some reason decided to attack them last month again. I don't knew what their problem is. Seriously
>>75349692Kronii isn't really debuffing, these are just her numbers now
>>75349608didnt holojp recently get another 3view ccv from haachama?
>>75349692Pacific Drive is neutral, not a debuff. Kronii's just shed a lot of viewers compared to two years ago.
>>75349723know*
Show me your strongest cunny
>>75349655Someone shared a picture at a NijiEN event in a Thai convention yesterday, there were around 100 fans there anon
>>75349737The overall average of JP is up significantly compared to this point last year, whereas EN is still treading water at 6.5k average.
>>75349723sisters attacked aogiri?Did it have anything to do with Fuwa accidentally admitting on an NHK radio show about how niji bought subs and ccv bots to boost them?
>>75349692No lead up streams with no Kiara and no Ina
>>75349409>MalaysiaLol no, there are unironically more phasefags around here ever since jelly debuted
>>75349805They were male fans, but this place just lumps shit stirrers into the "sister" category
>>75349801
>>75349823Meant for >>75349692
>>75349522Huh, i thought Nijigen is in Malay, or is this different event altogether?
>>75349804Anyone that puts serious stock in EN numbers after what happened in November is retarded
>>75349747you guys have a skewed perception of what Kroniis numbers were post debut/pre-tempus collab. The only streams of hers that'd hit 10k were Minecraft, karaoke and the occasional horror game. Her current CCV falls in line with what she'd used to get back then
>>75349384Not an island country, that much I can tell
>>75349805When did fuwa radio happen? I think they targeted them before that, I don't know what triggered them though, I didn't care enough to look into it.
>Open /vt/>Phase adHoly based
>>75349800>Someone shared a picture at a NijiEN event in a Thai convention yesterdaywhich convention cause i dont see any recent nijien event in the fanclub page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_lxF4yp8eYwtf is that gun asset? It's a fucking 3D hand attached to her 2D model. Never seen anything like it
>>75349823Godammit meant for >>75349608A 10k would be possible for the off collab if it didn't start the day. But there wasn't enough people in the eco system today
Have a more fun hypothetical.Say you were forced to retroactively "recast" Myth's original gen, picking from only the current HoloEN members (i.e. you decide you would have had Mumei debut as Myth's Amelia Watson).Do you think there's any configuration where you could have done better than Cover did? Or is Myth as they are literally the best match of model to performer that it could have ever been, even when you have your pick of the full 15 members you can now?For the sake of not getting into semantics, assume they would debut as the streamer they were at their debut and not however they were as a streamer back in 2020.
>>75349522I'm guessing it's a combination of the black screen and Millie being a traitor right?
>>75349914Who knows, but the screen showed Shu as one of the guests
>>75349888Anon she was not dipping down to 4 fucking k years ago, unless she played some indie slop overlapped by Fauna in FST+1. A lot of her numbers now is her getting fucking raid babied
>>75349909may 4https://www.nhk.or.jp/radio/player/ondemand.html?p=9093_01_3988653_16626 4:37:25
Why tf HoloJP suddenly shill Musk’s AI?
>>75349928Gura's model piloted by Kiara is an interesting thought experiment.Mori should have had Sana's model.Put Kronii in Mori's model.
>>75349859different event
>>75349800>>75349914>>75349959That was the main stage for the event, people were there for the full day's worth of appearances and not just for Nijisanji.
>Pacific Drive>8.3kKronii is gaining some unicorns back?
>>75343152The original decline was just standard hype cycle deflating, if they didn't fumble their response to the selen incident so badly they could've limped on for years as is before nijisanji was forced to close them, and they always had the potential for a salome like incident to bring new life in to the branch. Now, it's a matter of when, not if. >Kinda like how Luca gachis swear up and down the leaks mean nothing but then his SCs and viewership falls off a cliff.The thing you have to understand is that pretty much everyone who participates in discussions about vtubers like this are a loud minority, and yes that includes us. The vast majority are casual fans who barely interact with the community and just quietly disengages if they don't find it fun anymore.
>>75349928Not really. Everyone in MYTH did something specific at that moment you can't replay. The only one that could be flexible is Kiara and the only options are Bae, IRyS or FWMC and one slot
>>75350058>Mori should have had Sana's model.Man, Twitter would hate her even more if they'd pulled something like that.
>>75350034aqua wants to be the next twitter ceo
>>75349935yupiirc the millie song anniversary philippine meetup was also cancelled by the organizer since they didnt want to do anything related to niji anymore
maturity is realizing that this place is the most cancerous thread in all of 4chan
>>75349608Only the CGDCT first army are reaching new heights.
>>75350002nta but she was clearly still growing before the raid and after the raid and her highest peak is in fact a long time after the second raidthat's the problem with you retards calling people raid babies if they're getting raids before their numbers level out
>>75350058>Mori should have had Sana's model.would she use the n word in that timeline?
>>75350133I don't even know if my brain can properly parse IRyS or Bae as Kiara. I can't mentally separate the voice and accent from that model even if I wanted to.
>>75349928only Ina and Ame can be considered for recasting in 2020 Myth. and even then I cant imagine anyone in Promise or Advent filling in the holes for 2020 Ina and Ame.
>>75346984This is also why stealth suspensions are retarded in this industry. God I really wish I can track down all those retards who said cover dun goofed when they publicly announced vesper's suspension and watch them publicly eat their own words.
>>75350212Oh come the fuck off it, I'm not saying this is debuff but don't pretend for a fucking minute she would've gotten anywhere near those fucking numbers if not for the raids. She's a fucking raid baby.
>>75346982Their CN branch isn't dead but also isn't owned by them, notice how virtual real never gets mentioned in any of their investor reports?
>>75350245I feel like Ina in Myth was vital for the legitimacy of having an artist people actually recognized who is fucking god-tier at what she does. Can't imagine Myth working as well as an introduction to Hololive for westerners without that.
>>75350098That Sally stream sure is something I must admit.
>>75349202Oh VCR is finally going to minecraft?I know it's a meme but if Pekora is ever gonna join, it's gonna be for this one.
>>75350242You kinda ignored the biggest brainfuckImagine 2 slightly different Kiara's with Fuwawa and Mococo's voice
>>75350187You should rehash images you use to hide behind.
>>75350274>>75350212This was her first stream of the samw fucking game
>>75350274Not saying she would have gotten 8k but 6-7k was perfectly possible given her last stream of this
>>75348495Neat, and I doubt that zatsu streams have many people rewatching them
>>75350274whats the graph look like for her first pacific drive stream
>>75350343>>75350351cope
>>75350133Kiara was needed to force Myth together, very early Myth didn't really care about having a gen identity until Kiara forced it on them (and it worked out in the long run when it came to merch/sponsors).
>>75350187Not even close
Gura hasnt streamed recently debuff
>>75350370
>>75350009They did a who most wants to join Hololive ranking game game. Maybe that triggered them, I don't think they really need a reason though. They fling shit to deflect drama on the JP side too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFjgbNVtZtk
>>75350274Ok I'm gonna drop a hot take. All this seething over 'raid babies' is fucking retarded when there are plenty of JPs that rely on garbage collecting to get numbers.>b-but it's different because it's not a raidstill doesn't change the fact that they aren't people's primary choices and their numbers are dependent on the first army
Shu's chat right now
>>75350187sounds like you barely scratched the surface on 4chan if you think this.
>>75350370Not either of those anons, but you’re clearly the one coping.
>>75350315I agree in the sense that EN needed someone who freely showcased their talents. maybe it didn't have to be an artist, but she is the best pick of the options regardless.
>>75350338>not having both of them play her at the same time, one for each hat
>>75350414>They did a who most wants to join Hololive ranking game gameah that makes senseI remember nijinigs doing the same (harassing and doxing) thing to nobuhime when she explained why she would rather be in holo
>>75347686They can't do that because unlike no man's sky, it's not a game with missing features that they can just polish back out. Trust in nijisanji is irrevocably broken ever since they tried to double down on slandering Selen instead of backtracking on their words, and every day that passes without them issuing a public retraction they lose even more faith. Like, shit, even no man's sky admitted that there was a problem before going about trying to fix it, and didn't just pretend everything was fine while shitting on everyone who tried to complain. And for nijisanji to do that convincingly they'll need to fire some of the currently most profitable talents in the branch in the hopes of courting some of the previously jilted to come back, and that has the same problem with woke pandering in that you're pissing off your existing audience in the hopes of getting a new audience that might not even be real or as large as they seem
>>75350245>>75350315Ina was necessary because it's indisputable that she fills a niche that no other EN does with her art skills and like the other guy said she gave HoloEN legitimacy as someone who was already successful outside Hololive.Ame on paper is replaceable but in practice she wasn't given how little actual support Myth got back then from management.
>>75350372Ame was the one who forced the Gen identity early on. Kiara didn’t really become the leader until after Myth was already a shell of its former self.
>>75350423Don’t care, we made fun of Twitchfag for abusing it, we will do the same for ENUnless you want to risk legitimizing IM number, then go ahead and deal with that schizo yourself
>>75350432omegalul is such an eyesore of an emote
>>75349202What version thoVanilla or modded?Free play or one with purpose or story?Shit can vary between ultras buff to ultra debuff depending on these
>>75350529>we>twitchtwitch numbers aren't real in the first place.
>>75350423still doesn't change the fact that Kronii is a raid baby
>>75350506Holy revisionism. Ame was the tech side of stuff. Kiara was the one actually getting them together. Don't act like Kiara didn't make big collabs either like Mario Kart tournaments and shit like that.
>>75349045Nijisisters are still trying that tactic by the way, because for some reason they think that attacking a suicide victim will convince people that they are in the right
>>75350133>FWMCI love them but they needed to debut in a post-grim, post-homo world to have their success. JP but EN is not a strong value prop for Myth and we didn't know how bad things were going to be in 2 years at that time.
>>75350529>twitchyou're a knobslobbing retardthe reason he's shit on is for>comparing twitch numbers to youtubeand you'd know their incomparable if you weren't new
>>75350529>we
>>75350529No one is taking IM numbers seriously except the retards who insist on responding to the dumbfuck comparing Twitch numbers to YT numbers instead of ignoring them like everyone else does
>>75350506>Ame>organizing collabs that weren't tech demos
>>75350432Here is the wordcloud of Shu's last stream
>>75348090You mean the one that got relentlessly mocked for how shitty the turnout was?
>>75350614Worms
>>75350613i see...
>>75350553Yes we, you literally admitted you are the minority here with the hot take, so don’t back off now
>>75350613forgot picBitch I might buy a pass just because of this goddamn 1 minute timer
>>75349324The only way it won't really be an overall debuff (maybe not as bad as Rust was but still a debuff)Is if they manage to get some actual notable HolosThey'd need someone like Pekora or Miko, even someone like Watame (lol) or Mio or OkayuObviously most of those seem pretty unlikely, but who knows when one of these girls will take an Ayame or Lui turn at this point.
>>75349384Well don't leave us hanging anon, what happened at that con?
>>75350623Nah, the one he's talking about is the image with a fuck ton of third worlders with no chairs posted a few days ago. I don't remember where it was though.
>>75350647>twitchfaggot having a melty
>>75349608The only growth path for EN streamers is through Twitch and tiktok/shorts. EN vtubers on youtube are just cannibalising their own audience since there's no actual growth in the EN scene.
>>75350002>dipping down to 4 fucking k years ago,what was the seamonkey trying to say here?
>>75350183LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>75350651So Shu draws on JP fansVox drew on ChinaMysta on SEAWhere do Ike and Luca viewers come from?Shu really seems to be the only Niji that can get numbers anymore
>>75350690whore in her natural element
>>75350614Those were the best collabs though.
>>75350183Are they still having Moomin Manila?
>>75350423Garbage collecting is fucking different because people make a fucking conscience effort to move over when you can quite literally have retards who've longed afk'd get transferred over into the new stream
>>75350614They gave HoloEN a underdog feel.>>75350634Follow the conversation
>>75350701this is a SNORyS thread krokek. fuck off
>>75350720Shu unironically was the only luxiem who never pandered to the chink hordes back in 2022, a decision for which he was mocked back in the day but it's certainly serving him well now
>>75350634Why the fuck was Reine in this?I genuinely don't remember and I don't think she's interacted with Tempus since
>>75350720ike was also cn but was never as big. wasn't he the runt?
>>75349202Might aswell use minecraft because nobody ever shoot anyone.
>>75350762You can have retards get auto-played into streams too, and it's doubly hilarious that you'd complain about afkers when most of the garbage collecters (especially the late night ones) are host to people asleep with their phones/pc running.
>>75350798Reine and Anya were both in the Astroneer collab too right?
>>75350803Yeah but I think part of that was he didn't stream as much as the others early on
>>75350798@EVERYONESOMEONE PLEASE FUCKING JOIN I NEED TO FILL IN THIS LAST SLOT AND THESE OTHER EN BITCHES DON'T WANT COOTIES
>>75350423I've basically filed "raid baby" on the same level as "leech" or "whore" where it's only ever used by disingenuous shitposters trying to give their hate a more legitimate veneer
>>75350798she did a keyboard shill offcollab with a male. What are you on about
>Ame/Kiara tried to lead/tardwrangle myth - failure and burnout>Shiori tries to lead/tardwrangle advent - FWMC go off the court JP nikis and Nerissa is one chat comment away from snapping>promise doesn't have a leader - they're all doing relatively well feels good to be a democracyCHAD
>>75350798Someone asked if she wanted to join an Ame collab and she said yes.
>>75350798Only thing I remember about that is Moona told one of the Homos to fuck right off for saying Hey Moona. It was posted here, didn't see it first hand.
Man, Nodoka was cute in her karaoke, all the small mistakes and these nerves really make it enjoyable
>>75350701Anon is having a melty about raids and is genuinely angry so he has to throw some "fucking"s into his post whenever he can
>>75350529Even if you did take Twitch numbers seriously (which nobody does), there’s a difference between the kinds of raids that IM and Niji get where they shit away the whole raid in like 10 minutes, and the holo raids where the viewers actually stick around.
>>75350835Huh so she didNo wonder she's the lowest ID these days
>>75350798Management was asking them to do it and integrate the bois into the branch. Blew up in their face.THEY SOOO FUCKING WANTED TO HAVE WHAT NIJIEN WAS DOING SINCE THIS WHEN LUXIEM HAD POPPED OFF>
>>75348753Wizardry! >>75350360Oh dang, I didn't realize they could be intermixed with other videos. Though, I suppose that makes more sense than separating them and ranking them again. Using Fauna as an example, her membership ASMRs expectedly are on top and then it all trickles down. Interestingly (to me at least), the lowest viewed zatsu has 5.5k likes and the highest viewed membership stream has 1.5k likes.
>>75350870Yeah, it was magni. Moona sounded a bit mad
>>75350882Alex in da chat
>>75350867>Kronii>Bae>doing relatively well
>>75350895Oh yeah I remember this one actuallyThe one where Ame and Axel made dick jokes to eachotherGlad this shit crashed and burned
>>75350882when her 3D live? maybe ill member to jerk off to her ASMR
>>75350863You want to know why no one calls Ina or Fauna or even Shiori (anymore, she was on debut) raid babies? Because they don't get raided and have their numbers constantly propped up by them. It's not the same thing as leech and you're retarded for thinking it is.
>>75348786And that stream has ensured that the fire remains strong even three months after the event
>>75350690Sex offender shuffle.
https://youtu.be/2ILWn-YyzTQ?si=AMt8sReQ-tiw1RJZOracle MV
>>75350905She probably immediately recognized that he was trying to attach himself to pekora through her.
>>75350913Promise doesn't force fans to watch the girls they don't like. You can support Fauna, Mumei, and IRyS and almost never see Kronii and Bae.
What the FUCK is The Blackening?
>>75350913They’re at least streaming
>>75350913They are literally doing better than Shiori Kiara and probably Nerissa but I can't be fucked to check Nerissa numbers
>>75350972I don't see Vox in that image.
>>75350690
>>75350913yes, kronii is doing decently well. Bae is Bae, her CCV is mid but she's happy and mentally stable.
>>75350996>Bots literally talking to themselves on twatter Great platform musk
>>75350798>>75350895Do not miss this version of Ame lmao
>>75350677>>75349522
>>75350985Kronii and Bae attached themselves to IRyS like a bunch of leeches
>>75350935That was it lolhttps://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1787854585434087639
It's crazy how low Luca's numbers are when he overlaps with Shu.I guess the Luxiem box is really low these days.That's a buff game too.
>>75349928Realistically yeah there's a few members you could swap in and they'd probably perform overall about as well. Better overal, is too hard to say, way too many variables. Best you'd probably get is weaker in some areas but stronger in others.You could definitely make things worse though. Most of the members are who they are now because they debuted when they did.It's pretty impossible to picture members in other models though after so many years. It's take a while for that not to feel wrong
>>75350913bae is happy and does the most with the opportunities that she has been given, she doesn't take it for granted like most of the other en girls
>>75350763yup they also have a council meetup but the organizers of moomin/council is different from the one that organized the millie meetupthe millie one was "organized" by a nijifag but asked the moomin guys to help
>>75350895>No wonder she's the lowest ID these daysNigger anya is in that image and doing well for herself. Don't be retarded. If Reine wasn't so obsessed with playing trash she'd do better, but she killed her channel with all the VNs and simulation games.
>>75350979>autismNo. I think she simply didn't like hearing it from him
>>75350798Iirc the story from Ame went something like this>Reine was the very first who accepted>Couldn't get enough girls so she made it a HoloproEN collab>The homos joined>suddenly the other girls became interested in joining
I think this AI thing is broken.
>>75351105>she doesn't take it for granted like most of the other en girlsThis. Look at Fauna who keeps pissing away everything because she's a lazy cunt
>>75350798>>75350895None of her viewership really had a huge problem with it because she's the single most lesbian (true) English-speaking chuuba the company has. We all knew any more streams outside of these collabs had a less-than-zero chance of happening.
What’s Kronii’s new outfit gonna be?
>>75347780That only works for stories that failed to break into the mainstream. The story got so big and got spread so wide that even people who couldn't tell you what vtubing is know that nijisanji is bad. It's like, imagine Kevin spacey trying to stage a comeback tour. The moment he gets anywhere with it all the bad press about the sexual assault stuff is going to come back up again and ruin any momentum he could've gathered. Same deal here only instead it'd be about nijisanji and Elira using their platform to drive an employee to suicide
>>75351173lmao bratkek
>Moona and Risu in Kanata's 3D live>No ENKek! EN DOKO?! BASED KANATA!
>>75351161Oh yeah that's right, wasn't Kiara originally in the Worms thing too?Then left after homos joined?
>>75351198A princess dress
>>75349522>number of local cons have basically told people selling/showcasing niji stuff to stay in the back/area thats not visible to the guestFucking segregation but for nijis lmao. They truly have become nijiniggers in both name and form.
>>75351236Kiara was asleep when this all happened, she said she would've joined (if the homos weren't involved).
Be glad that we are moving on from the grim era, sucks that now there crackheads squatting in the fandom begging for "COLLABS WITH DA BOIZ"
>>75351070Bae hasn’t done anything with IRyS in ages shitposter-kun
>>75351198The most feminine shit you've ever seen in your life.Gonna be so fucking great.
>>75351236Kinda. She didn't say it directly, but implied she would love to join the girls in a worms collab
>>75351275LOL
>>75351198naked apron
>>75351203That’s Faunaschizo newfag
>>75351279yeah because IRyS put her foot down and tell her to stop leeching
So when is Gura coming back for another grift this time?
>>75351200I mean, I guess we'll see.
>>75351241>>75351296It has to be high school related
>>75351340I actually like that this is how Gura operates now, because if she starts streaming again I know we're about to get either the EN4 announcement or CTW2 announcement.
>>75351363naked apron in home ec class
>>75351276Never seen a group of people hypnotise themselves in believing increasingly convaluded headcanons over accepting the fact that the content they want just isn't going to happen in hololive.
>>75350798Quite a few in ID haven't for some time now. People outside of here haven't really noticed yet. Might get a little ugly towards the end of the year when they do start to realize. Same way it did for EN last year
>>75351352I mean the fact that it's releasing straight to Amazon prime proves my point doesn't it?
>>75351363Why does it have to be high school related? A princess can be that age
>>75351363Naked apron in cooking club and princess dress in theatre club
>>75351394Yea, I just looked it up when you said Kevin Spacey and thought it was funny that a movie was really being released.
what are we in?
>>75351050She's still very much that version, don't worry
>>75351386You can blame the vesperoni and squad stuff for giving those guys a taste of what they wanted and they spent the last two years convincing themselves the only reason why they aren't getting more of that is because of those damn unicorns and their invisible guns
>>75351276>Your voice has been heardthey're squatting in the studio toobanned from tv/. never even been there
>>75350897Hololive is an army of lions led by donkeys.
>>75351363delinquent wearing a sarashi
>>75351443CUTE
All of the girls should get outfits like this
>>75351486cottagecorebros...
>>75351455https://youtu.be/i18seh7jbzU
>>75351464How so?
>>75351395Because that’s been the theme of all 3 of the other Promise outfits that have been revealed, and Bae’s silloulette looks like it’s gonna be a high school delinquent
We love all EN girls here
>>75350798Reine has literally always been a homocollaber which made the “I can’t believe Ame would TRICK Reine into this collab” as if she hadn’t done it before.
>>75351520you forgot about pero
>>75351340
>>75351516The goth outfits are not Highschool. I have seen adult women dress like that
>>75351480>SpoilerThat's such a weird fucking coincidence, I was banned from there just a couple days ago while I was browsing /here/ on my phone in an airport.Who is shitposting over there so badly
did any new albums drop recently?
>>75351520>didn’t edit anyone outYou’re doing it wrong
>>75351520Im an advant fan and i can count the times Gura has streamed on one hand since ive become a fan.
>>75350900That slime ASMR has some decent legs on it, looks lke it will be her most viewed members stream before too long.Not sure why that Sheepy stream did so well it got a ton of views early on but then kind of stopped growing after it hit 10k
>>75351520except mori, bae and kronii
>>75351586M3 was last week or so
>>75350897If the whole thing with Omega being Loserbait is true, then it's obvious this was his goal to begin with. That guy had always been a nijifag and hated "idol culture".Don't forget, early HoloEN weren't called idols, they were called streamers.
>>75351589Why are you so worried about Gura as an Advent "fan"?
>>75351579>not Highschool???
>>75351589>advant
>>75351589Your hand must be extremely mutated with tens of fingers then.
>>75351589>Advant
>>75351579Just because manchildren/womenchildren exist doesn’t mean goth and emo are not quintessentially high school tropes
>>75351618Fauna putting idol in her bio page was like 9/11 for Omega
https://twitter.com/Tako0980/status/1786757396603486619
>>75351579Don't hang out around many trailer parks eh?
>>75350913Yeah, they are actually
>>75349608HOLOEN # ISSUE?THOSE WHO CAN GET GOOD NUMNERS HAVE NO AMBITIONAND IT BECAME BRANCH DNAIMAGINE FAUNA OR GURA SPAMS TRENDY SHITS EVERY WEEK
>>75351608We love mori here
You mouse antis are sick in the fucking head. This poor girl has been denied the basic rights every woman craves genetically: having a child.She'll never have sex, she'll never experience childbirth, she'll never have her child come home sick and nurse them back to health. All because she was born with this vile illness.And you mentally ill fucks dare to mock her? Truly disgusting.
>>75351692(we don't)
>>75351704>having a child.Don't post it
>>75351704Skill issue.
>>75351704reddit or yt?
EN should have 30 members by now.
>>75351704thisIronmama debut will mog Pekomama debut
>>75351704She talked about having cum in her eye
Why wouldn't Ina acknowledge the Jurard sticker bros...
>>75351718Yes we do
>>75351618Ame being on board so directly like she was would probably fit the bill too, even though I won't pretend to know what things were like behind the scenes.But I'm fairly bought in on Loserbait = Omega at this point and am just glad he finally got expunged before it was too late.
Apparently investor already got the whiff of Cover quarter report. Where is the link?
IMfag is here again. Does she even have any good lewds?
>>75351589Nobody really hooked me from Advent. The one I liked was Shiori, but then she took that huge break and I kind of lost interest. Also her voice isn't that nice. The one I really like from HoloEN is Fauna, when she streams there's little else worth watching.I also watch indies, like Amiya Aranha and Mint Fantome. From Phase I like Uruka's violin streams, Shiina's singing streams, and Tenma's streams are really comfy. Also whenever Pippa's in a collab that's fun as fuck. I tried out that PIllowdear girl that anons were shilling and she's pretty nice, although her content isn't that great.
>euros wake up>thread becomes shitLike clockwork
>>75351747(we don't)global loves her though
>>75351726funny enough its from the IM defense threaddont know why anon copy and pasted it here though
>>75351789This is global
>>75351789This was right before her surgery last time right?Was flirting with those two Niji dudes in VCR her version of having fun this time around?
>>75351772still dont understand the appeal of phasei tried watching them since people were always mentioning them here but they are just basically bargin bin hololive
>digging through ancient anti folder
>>75351276I do wonder what their response would be if someone, say in EN4, responded to>"COLLABS WITH DA BOIZ"With a straight no not interested, wish them the best though.
>>75351753Around the time when the homos first debut she called herself a corpo bootlicker from what I remember.
>>75351774Well then have something nice for you
>>75351704
>>75351789The Kiara pfp and KFP username is the icing on top.
>>75351731dont worry, niji still has the nijien female wave coming soon
>>75351766Does Bae?
>>75351845Phase is basically for people who like /here/chuubas who spout "based" takes they read on 4chan every so often
>>75351704new pasta just dropped kek
>>75351789Still can't believe she replied to a fucking 5 day old shitpostReally incredible stuff from that era of Mori
>>75351813this is # anon
>>75351853>wish them the best thoughThis statement alone would be used as a way to anti the other girls for their "lack of professionalism". They already use Fauna's welcome and Kiara's acknowledgement as tools
>>75351894Yes
>>75351845They have a ton of girls and stream a ton, so there's always stuff going on. Most of them aren't worth watching but chances are one or two will appeal to you. Uruka's violin streams are legitimately good content even though I don't follow her at all. Plus how can you hate Tenma, she's everyone's asian grandma.
>>75351894
>>75350798Why did Ame try so hard for the homos and then just gave up
>>75351933Which is global but with more nijis
>>75351894Mountains of it
>>75351874>the only black that doesnt show feet is sana>the only white that doesnt show feet is kroniiwdhmbt
>>75351891>dont worry, niji still has the nijien female wave coming soonbased on their last 3 hiring posts prior to the open auditions its all going to be mixed waves from here on out
>>75351951I've given up on understanding what goes through her brain
>>75351789>January 2022
>>75351951Ame is a company girl. She shilled the new product
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1788086435700207844https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1788086435700207844https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1788086435700207844https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1788086435700207844
>>75351946Disgusting.
>>75351959nahthe sisters invaded after their doxx site died but this is still a unicorn thread
>>75351891Which females would even be stupid enough to sign up for niji now?
>>75351520Right thread King
>>75351772Tenma is boring as shit, "comfy" is always the key word people use just like they do with Ina. Pippa i used to like but she just mouths what people wanna hear now and isnt based like she used to be. >shinina singingshe is average as fuck with no soul>Minttainted ill never watch her>Amiyaonly good one meantioned on your post. Sings nice, has Decent ASMR, Hag and has an actual niche. >Urukawho?and idk who the pillow girl is. Ones ones i liked that have been shilled here from the past 2-3 yrs ive lurked and posted was Yoshika and Rocket girl.
>>75351946>They have a ton of girls and stream a ton, so there's always stuff going onI mean I can see but i dont think streaming a ton is something positive when the problem is that most of the time their streams are just meh at best and they dont have the pull factor to keep new people interested in them in the long run
>>75351986>Ame is a company girlDidn't she go on a thinly veiled tirade about how Cover leeches off talents who do all the work and Cover gets money off their work without providing much?
>>75351894If you want Bae lewds, you could just ask.
>>75352008Bro just get rid of all that white space if you're going to edit Sana out of it, now it just draws attention to there being something missing
>>75351951Ame is a corpo girl and a saviorfag
>>75351618>>75351753I don't know if I fully belive it, but seeing him openly defending Niji through the drama was a trip
>>75351894https://files.catbox.moe/sdzf5g.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4dsc33.png
>>75352054Yeah, but Cover is the reason she isn't a poorfag and gave her the tools to create.
>>75352045They have 27 girls though. HoloEn only has 15, and several of those barely stream, or are just bad content.
>>75351989why does taiwan get all the good shit man
>>75352074It's space for EN4
>>75352054No?
>>75352054wasn't she a 2view streamer before
>>75352104I only remembered him cause he was attacking that grifter lawyer while defending Niji management
>>75352152>asking for doxxFuck off
>>75352122Thats the thing though anon even holoen worse content is still more enjoyable than whatever any phase girl has mainly because they are just mimicking hololive without the it factor
>>75352009>>75352009If you're too zoomer brain for Tenma go watch Pippa. But I think Tenma's really comfy. When I'm working I have her on in the background and it's very nice. Also I recommend catching one of Uruka's violin streams, no other vtuber does anything like it and it's really great stuff
>>75351894Bae has a Daki that isn’t trash
>>75351989
>>75351937erm... why does IRyS have a penis hanging out of her skirt
>>75351951Tempiss 1 had a lot of momentum with some big projects in the works (podcast, DnD, Pokemon Soul Link Nuzlocke) but Vesper went and fucked pretty much everything up by not doing his part, being antisocial as fuck, and getting suspended. They fucked up hard hiring him and purple homo.
>>75351951she was dating omega
>>75352185Bae and Gura need to convince Mumei and Fauna to sell one too
>>75352142Yes, retardman. She was playing some trucking game.
>>75352232Phasedog...
>>75352196Why wouldn't she?
is he going to be ok
>>75352215Problem is that dumb and dumber were the main reason anyone even liked the homos. They had that old 2000s internet humor.
>>75352238We just need one of Fauna or Mumei to release a daki and the other will naturally fall in line.
>>75352232wouldnt that contradict the loserbait rrat then since loserbait has that furry artist as a bf?
>>75352009pillowdear is a lot like Fauna and Mumei
Twatter is weird man
>>75352232I believe it
>>75352196Nephilims are dick girls
>>75352215>if Tempus hadn't included Vesper, I wouldn't have given a shit about them as entertainers and they would've been doomed to fail>because Tempus included Vesper, they fell apart and were doomed to fail
>>75352303Easier to understand when you realize that guy isn't even a Fauna fan, and is actually a Phase fan
>>75352260Ok that’s actually fucking grim Jesus. Thats a buff game.
>>75352293I already bought third party daki's of both, hopefully they'll see the light soon
>>75352303This is why I can't take morischizos seriously
>>75352296there was a whole document, they were in a polycule or some shit
>>75352303Kek what the fuck>all trueSugoi
>>75351850once a whore, always a whore
>>75351935Yeah. You're right about that sadly. Is there really no way to tell these poeple no that won't twist in some way
>>75352184Tenma is boring and has a shit voice. she is a very poor mans Ina. Like i said i did watch pippa before but she has changed and she just says shit people wanna hear now. Pussied out of how she used to be. >watch Uraka!I goggled her and now i remember she the one with the tranny deep voice worse than Towa's. Yeah no thanks. ALso i forgot to mention i do watch Panko so i aint just not watching them because OMG PHASE bad but because they are shit streamers or boring. Lots of them are twitch adject which if its gonna be like that then why the fuck dont i watch a dude instead.
>>75351879That guy is a falseflagger from like 2020, surprised to see he was still posting even in 2022
>>75352341thats like a really long stretch especially when the furry fags tendency and preference
>>75352379Anon it's 2024
>>75352303gura just streamed a few weeks ago though