/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>75292745
Recent clip numbers
>>75226564
>>75226591
>>75226613
>>75226637

GRIM

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>242,223: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>94,745: Pekora (Hololive)
>88,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>88,846: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>67,225: Fubuki (Hololive)
>58,948: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>50,237: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>48,447: Miko (Hololive)
>38,925: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>35,855: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>35,040: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>32,670: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>31,821: Aqua (Hololive)
>29,360: Shellin Burgundy (Nijisanji)
>28,859: Subaru (Hololive)
>28,533: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>28,094: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>24,259: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>23,537: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>20,980: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>20,232: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,800: AZKi (Hololive)
>16,328: Qpi (VSPO)
>15,621: Akina (Nijisanji)
>14,786: Bijou (Hololive)
>14,739: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,552: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,521: Murakumo Kagetsu (Nijisanji)
>14,512: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,200: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>13,899: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>13,800: Akina (Nijisanji)
>13,526: Lui (Hololive)
>13,189: Akina (Nijisanji)
>13,176: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,678: Mythia Batford (Indie)
>12,123: Towa (Hololive)
>11,491: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,360: Sho (Nijisanji)
>10,345: Chigusa (Nijisanji)

> 奏 / Kanade (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>symmetry *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=5ADaIvhhcCU
>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

that vshojo x nikke might be a failure

YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY
>05/06 TALLY:
14,786: Bijou (Hololive) | Lethal Company w/ Haachama, Kaela
9,106: Fauna (Hololive) | Witcher 3
8,638: Baelz (Hololive) | Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
7,372: Ina (Hololive) | A Little to the Left
6,872: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | FuwaMoco Morning


>EN GOLDS FOR MAY 2024
1) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,879 - Shashingo
2) Shu (Nijisanji) - 38,756 - Outfit Reveal
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 24,304 - Content Warning Collab w/ Haato, Polka, Mococo Side
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 20,825 - GO! With Kanji
5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,060 - Clubhouse Games w/ Watame
6) Bijou (Hololive) - 14,786 - Lethal Company w/ Haachama, Kaela

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: FuwaMoco
1x: Bijou, Shu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
26p: FuwaMoco
6p: Fauna
5p: Bijou, Shu
4p: Kronii
3p: IRyS, Mumei
1p: Baelz, Reimu

>>75292836
>concedes shitrys lost to mousey

MAY 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 50,379: Marine (Hololive) Important Announcement
>2) 100,761: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Ball Z KAKAROT
>3) 56,602: Miko (Hololive) Host club CLUB ZERO [B]
>4) 34,994: Rikka (Holostars) Vtuber Singer competition
>5) 203,750: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup qualifiers
>6) 88,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup [B]


> PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Holostars
2x: Nijisanji

>>75292808
REAPER

so the Lamy is chosen based on the debut thumbnail, but what about Nene who was officially recognized as the "Pikachu" of the Lamy council?

>>75292815

MAY 2024 GOLD
>1) 50,379: Marine (Hololive) Important Announcement [17]
>2) 100,761: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Ball Z KAKAROT [22]
>3) 84,602: Pekora (Hololive) 777TOWN.net [26]
>4) 34,994: Rikka (Holostars) Vtuber Singer competition [29]
>5) 203,750: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup Qualifiers
>6) 241,042: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup

> PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Holostars

> PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora, Nijisanji
1x: Marine, Rikka

>Le Lamy
Aka "I want to be able to talk about my oshi in /#/ so I want any excuse to attach her to a /#/ meme"

>>75292908
MAY 2024 SILVER
>1) 38,333: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball
>2) 40,336: Sendo Yuuhi (VSPO) Debut stream
>3) 66,659: Marine (Hololive) 3M sub celebration
>4) 33,725: Miko (Hololive) The Game of Sisyphus
>5) 73,779: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Ball Z KAKAROT
>6) 94,745: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Ball Z KAKAROT

> PER COMPANY
1x: Indie
1x: VSPO
4x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora
1x: Chiroru, Sendo Yuuhi, Marine, Miko

/#/ is THE cunny general

>>75292956
MAY 2024 BRONZE
>1) 33,639: Subaru (Hololive) Bunny Garden
>2) 38,756: Shu (Nijisanji) 3rd outfit
>3) 56,602: Miko (Hololive) Host club CLUB ZERO
>4) 29,758: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup practice
>5) 67,730: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup practice
>6) 88,981: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Marika Nijisanji Cup

> PER COMPANY
4x: Nijisanji
2x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
3x: Kuzuha
1x: Subaru, Shu, Miko

Why do the Jews fear the Samurai?
...
They're going to become Brave

Gurame will save us from no Advent/Mori streams

MAY 2024 holoID
>1) 4,785: Kobo (Content Warning)
>2) 3,750: Kobo (Buried)
>3) 2,930: Zeta (MONSTER HUNTER WORLD)
>4) 3,006: Kaela (Lethal Company)
>5) 2,027: Kobo (Free Talk)
>6) 7,147: Kobo (Tekken 8)


> PER STREAMER
4x : Kobo
1x : Zeta, Kaela

>>75292980
people did fine before advent debuted

Rewatching yesterday DBZ DLC and I can guess why many people wanted to watch that, it was the first time Goku and Vegeta fight each other again after settled down with their family, it was nostalgic even in-universe

>>75292980
You forgot Fuwawa

>>75292993
This is just the if Kobo streamed today tally

>>75293038
Not necessarily
Kaela streaming something really buff can get 5k+

>>75292993
Hololive dominates a region this hard? Is no one else trying?

>>75293011
Fine? It's still regarded as the darkest period of EN

>>75293098
>Is no one else trying?
Not anymore I don't think
lol
Maybe there's local companies there? But idk shit about SEA

>>75292903
Nobody cares about Nene

>>75293109
it wouldnt had been dark if we only learned to eat our vegetables and watched T3mpus (the original EN3 btw) back then.

>>75293187
I care

>>75293187
I will tell nene this

>>75293011
This is bait

>>75293198
If people cared about her, they wouldn't have dropped her after she got ousted as a tracer

>>75293187
don't talk about my wife that way

>>75293169
Whats this ?

>>75293203
Can't wait for her next menhera breakdown

>>75293215
I didn't

>>75293188
>pagpag eater wants to consume garbage
I'm shocked

nene is my wife

>>75293234
Your wife keeps trying to chase trends in a desperate attempt at getting new viewers because being a genki idol isn't special

>>75293253
There a thing called cow shit soup that is worst than pagpag there

600k likes doryaaa

>>75293172
Maha5 still exists, but really ever since id3 blew the hinges off nobody else even came close to matching them. The closest anyone's come is Mika and oh hey look who graduated from nijisanji

>>75293299
What about Hana? I remember her being really big

>>75292980
>Ame
Yea I saw her post
>Gura
When the heck did she say anything about streaming? I don't see anything in the community tab or her twitter.

>>75293098
Not necessarily, it's a HoloID tally, if it included every ID vtuber then there would be 1 gold from AKA Virtual and 1 gold from an indie

>>75293275
Is the genuine idols not being special bit you describing what she thinks is the case or what you think is the case

>>75293349
nta but it's what Nene's manager told her to bully her into appearing in HLZNTL

https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1787693958640140679
More likes than Ollie's ccv

>>75293337
Okay, what the point of the tally then?

>>75293330
Nice job calling yourself out as a fake fan. Gura said Movie May was coming back and be excited for star wars on the 4th, retard

>>75293109
>It's still regarded as the darkest period of EN
To who? People here? That has no bearing on the general fanbase.

>>75293362
I know that much, I was asking that anon whether it was just sarcasm over the situation or if he was putting down the notion of being a genuine idol himself out of curiosity

>replying to gokischizo

>>75293391
The people here ARE the general fanbase. No one watches Vtubers outside of the people here

>>75293325
When was the last time you saw her stream?

>>75293391
To the people who like watching streams, retard

>>75293391
Be less obvious

>>75293391
Hello OKB Hololive Anti tourist!

>>75293187
Gokischizo get him!!!

I love them both so much

>>75293325
Big is a relative statement, she's big by 2020 standards but she's basically stalled at the same level since then while holoID and the rest of the ID scene have improved by leaps and bounds.
Also see >>75293424, she hasn't exactly been streaming much as Hana lately and I wouldn't hold my breath about her lasting very long in nijisanji

>>75293325
In 2020 maybe, nowadays she's on par with the lowest nijien

The nikke fanbase its not into the vshojo dynamic.

>>75293012
Sadly it was non-canon and included only after credits so many viewers left after watching Goku fly off with uub since that's the ending they're familiar with. Personally, I preferred the Goku v Vegeta ending more than Goku flying off and being a shit father (again).

>>75293374
>Gura said Movie May was coming back and be excited for star wars on the 4th
What day is it today?

>>75293552
tuesday

>>75293169
https://twitter.com/Akagi__JP/status/1786614918365729130
Is this real?

It's funny to see people constantly claim this board has no relevance to the larger fanbase, and then have that same group often be the one that whines about screenshots from Twitter of schizos literally posting pictures of random posts while openly discussing /here/ nonsense with thousands of engagements
And yes I know most people get tired of the spam eventually, but there's always the ones that bristle whenever they see it and did from the start. Unironic ostriches, literally just avoiding reality because they wouldn't know what to do if they couldn't use the normalfag argument. So dumb

>>75293428
Nobody has time to watch streams these days retard

>>75293098
AKA VIRTUAL is gaining ground to HoloID and the number 2 in ID. just that the ace of AV is not a consistent streamer but he is like top 3 in terms of ccv average

>>75293634
everyone is a homobeggar nowadays

>>75293391
Uh okay, and what is the "darkest EN period" then, motherfucker? Go ahead, explain what the "real fanbase" thinks it was. Because even leddit was complaining during the december-january dark ages of no content

>>75293635
How come ID watch males more than females?

Do you think Miko seething on Akupeko collab?

>>75293673
No

>>75293500
This but Limos from DesuCha.

>>75293673
She will join the collab PekoMiko soon

Nijisanji channel have tournament
Hololive channel have manager member stream

>>75293611
Well, where the fuck is my Movie May then?

>>75293635 (me)
I take it back, he's a consistent streamer, just that kaela and mainly kobo are still strong at the top but he is number 3 in ID

>>75293673
the collab supposed to be Koroakupeko, but Korone admit defeat.

>>75293673
No, she is not /#/ schizo

>>75293635
how many members do they have and what about their average ccv?

>>75293709
>>75293635
It's time for holostars ID

>>75293673
>deliberately start at the same time
yeah

>>75293700
No such thing was promised.

>>75293635
It’s true that their top is competitive with HoloID but they have unironic 2 views meaning they could be at the exact same spot NijiID before them
>top heavy
>long tail
>no incentive to stick around in either side
If the company doesn’t find a way to create a box they’ll get poached

>>75293736
if you have seen Kobo's collab with the fleshies, you've already seen everything about Holostars ID.

>>75293673
The hatefuck will be hot

>>75293746
>Literally have streamed at the same time everyday
Imagine making up imaginary war in your head

>>75293778
They will be genuine brotubers.

>>75293746
>same time
>an hour apart

>>75293633
Show me the people outside of here refering to EN before Advent as being the darkest period for EN? Also the people who tend to post screenshots from here are generally frowned upon, so don't know why you're now trying to make it seem like it's a positive.

>>75293794
I know it won't happen but I imagined a similar thing happening to biboo/kaela

>>75293778
Grim

>>75293732
25 members and eyeballing it, the average ccv of the company is probably around 300-500 or 200-300

STARS ID concept
>pick only half Chinese Indonesian or half dutch
>CBDCT only
>focus on kpop like contents
>profit

Is it that time of the day where retards pretend Holo totally living rent free in each other head and totally hate each other again?

>>75293828
Which one do you want to self insert into?

>>75293806
the rampant "EN3 doko?" posts on reddit?

>>75293828
>profit

>>75293806
Loads and loads of fags on Reddit, anon.
You're brainwashed by the homobeggars

>>75293832
That and "Homo is better than Holo"

>>75293828
numbers stars concept
>pick this anon
>throw him down a mountain
>profit

>>75293633
This board stopped having relevance on the larger fanbase once fanmade discords became the mainstream thing

>>75293806
Everyone clamoring for EN3 and openly talking about there being nothing to see

>>75293846
yes profit

>>75293832
PekoMiko totally hate each other. We have such great evidence of this, like the fact that 2 schizophrenic apes on a mongolian basket weaving image board hate each other. This is all the proof I need.

>>75293187
Prove this anon wrong by watching this.
https://youtu.be/JCxZxuaVMgk?si=xA97xq3ZgABi_8ps

>>75293871
The only purpose of those Discords is to ERP and coordinate raids /here/

>>75293871
Go the fuck back vermin

>>75292993
If we're going by ID time, Kaela beat Kobo on the 5th with 2,426

>sub 2k members stream
Why don’t membersimps show up to streams?

>>75293876
Salamat malam

>>75293658
During those two months a lot of ENs were out of commission and even then there were barely any posts complaining about it. The whole idea that there was ever this massive uproar over lack of streams is delusional.

kek

>>75293927
who are you quoting?

Is this the shorts meta what does the average #fag PC look like

Is Uub from dragon ball an IRyStocrat/Sapling as he is a pajeet

>>75293391
You're either retarded or the type of person that watches blacked porn.

>>75293954
it's still the worst time. What other period in EN's history would you consider worse?

the fuck does Jelly have steady 1k?

>>75294004
post magni/vesper graduation and Jap's reign of terror. that was the turning point where the bois were treated as second-class citizens and StarsEN never inclined ever since.

We live in a timeline where AkuPeko is thriving and PekoMiko is dead.
Really weird.

>>75293996
Saplings aren't pajeets though.
We are fat white fucks

>>75293954
You are probably one of these fucks

>>75293990
How can he jerk off to ASMR when his screen reaches his crotch?

>>75294028
Awful voice

>>75294004
The very start of the whole China debacle, ESPECIALLY when Coco and Chama were suspended
Yes, HoloEN WAS that long ago

>>75293960
Ah she collabed with Ollie, no wonder

>>75293990
my pc case has a unicorn on it

>>75293806
> Show me the people outside of here refering to EN before Advent as being the darkest period for EN?

>>75294079
Damn, you weren't suppose to actually post proof. That anon is going to be mad

>>75294044
what

>>75294046
You're one year late, slowchama.
https://youtu.be/DG3xd8eoRQs
https://youtu.be/CHxB8DVBjXQ
https://youtu.be/qmt9eEUFP6w
https://youtu.be/igei9Iq5uL0

>>75294004
The day shiori debuted and decided to become a 3k ccv average shitter

Kaela pushing hard

>>75294079
Those're retards from /here/, so idk what you're on about
Wasn't that the same time OKBH shown its true face?

>>75294045
>We are white
>>/vt/thread/69411737#p69414686

>>75294061
Peak Myth mania when everyone was streaming regularly was "the darkest EN period"? That's a retarded take. You could *maybe* argue that for Hololive as a whole though that would still be wrong because it was in the middle of a meteoric incline for the whole company.

>>75294130
Uh ... Kobo music is included, right?

>>75293832
Why yes it is indeed the time when SEA is getting home from work.

>>75293896
that was a good cover i am proud of my wife

>>75293634
True, clearly the majority of the fanbase is clip watchers which means that Cover doesn't need to bother with the loud minority of the few dozen thousand people who watch streams and send SCs. A small percentage of fans doesn't reflect the actual fans anyway.

>>75294233
>the few dozen thousand people
in my 33 years i have never heard a number said this way

>>75293842
>>75293853
>>75293872
>>75294048
So the best you got is some EN3 doko posts while they where basically carrying on like normal for the most part?

>>75294281
they were? almost everyone in EN were dying left and right that time

>>75293806
There were tons of people referencing the lack of streams on twitter and elsewhere you absolute fucking retard. Why the fuck do you have such a fucking out of touch rosy image of the fanbase outside of here? Do you know even fucking know how awful those niggers are if you ever breach the bubble of your oshis fanbase? They complain just as much as this board does except their complaints are somehow even more retarded per capita which is unironically impressive

>>75294152
>okbh
that was much later since flygon hadn't even debuted yet

>>75294281
This was a time where Kiara had to force herself to stream while sick because everyone was out.

>>75294177
The caption clearly says stream vods

>>75294281
don't you have some mentally ill porn fanfiction to write in your "ironic" cuck subreddit?

>>75294109
A delusional homobeggar that thinks the only reason the homos can't incline is that the holo audience doesn't know about them and that if they only just collabed and were shilled more they'd magically get numbers

>>75294046
>He thought Pekora was joking when he say she would try collabing with people she never did before

>>75294152
>>75294281
The meltdown in the sub was so bad it had to be shutdown for over 24 hours. The timing of tempus2 at such a grim point for holoEN pissed a LOT of normal fans off it's complete cope to say it was just a raid from /here/
Trolling or retarded.

>>75294334
Oh shit, sorry I was blind
How is her VOD game so strong then, consider she doesn't stream alot

>>75294255
Neither have I honestly, but its 5:30 AM and i have been losing to my insomnia all night and now I have work in 3 hours, if you expect me to not use retarded shorthand grammar you can fuck off

>>75294051
Onahole machine behind the bottom of the screen, extra realistic sex

>>75294361
does not count.

https://twitter.com/FandingOfficial/status/1787770454343905285

>>75294368
It's called 2.4 million sub nigga, somehow /#/ keep forgetting that VOD view are affected by sub

>>75294312
Yeah, even while that was happening the fanbase seemed fine for the most part.

This is REAAAAAALLY pushing it on FineFaunart
But I like tiny thongs so I like it

>>75294361
The meltdown was bad because T-chan pre-emptively closed it on orders of a holoan on discord anon

Can't believe somebody let a flock of ostriches into the numbers thread like this

>>75294426
It got bad enough that they spammed it a bit in Fauna's streams. Something she also agreed with for the record

>>75294399
Yup, I think we overvalue CCV a bit

>>75294398
>Twa
>Lapu
>Ina
>Nabi
Nice

>>75294368
I remember in her first year Kobo saying she purposely doesn't stream much so she could get more VOD views

>>75294432
She probably won't like it

FBK is trying her damn hardest to discourage her fan from gambling right now except she keep talking about how fun it was for her

>>75294399
Anon Ollie is right there

Why did B2 invite Matsuri and Kobo back to China, but not Aqua?

>>75294368
Most of those views comes from her first 6 months

>>75294486
Huh remind me of Laplus coping that she stream on Twitch to maximize YT views. How is her view situation now?

>>75294281
>If i just ignore reality they will also do it

>>75294513
>Kobo
>back to China

>>75294513
Aqua hates China now

>>75294489
She will like it, just not on Twitter

>>75294470
>a bit
The only reason anon here dismiss sub it's because a LOT of chuuba that they hate have high sub
Same with revenue btw

>>75294503
Hololive just needs it's own casino, be it in holoearth or somewhere else, this way they can promote safe gambling and give people more gambling cash for watching streams

>>75294516
FAILED EXPERIMENT, inconsistent short upload and vod upload and inconsistent twitch streaming

>>75294523
Thats what I mean she won't publicly like it.

>fanbase seemed fine
The funniest part about posts saying shit like that is that it's 100% made by the most oblivious kind of person in the first place, so they more than likely consider "no major scandals that set fire to the Twitter streets" as the definition of "fine"

>>75294443
That's probably the peak of homobeggar's power

>>75294538
To be fair it's an incredibly flawed experiment. Someone who streamed regularly and did more than just play FPS could make a better go of it. Even if it didn't work, and it almost certainly wouldn't, they'd get better results.

>>75294546
>>75294443
It resulted in trannychan's spirit being broken.

>>75294513
It's a test to see how CN reacts to Hololive after four years after Taiwan

>>75294516
Kobo said this during her peak where she would easily get Gura amounts of VOD views. Her current views has not been that great because of how inconsistent she streams

>>75294544
It's not "Fine" per se
But I'd compare it to something like having a cold, while back in the China arc it's comparable to getting slapped

>>75294589
Since the Taiwanese hail Hololive as deities, I don't think Taiwan would like this move

>>75294546
Peak was before Vesper's suspension. Everything was downhill after that. People could cite that as a reason not to be involved with Stars, and indeed collabs dropped off precipitously after that.

>>75294613
Taiwanese use bilibili too, because it's really the only relevant Chinese language streaming site. In fact what little Holo presence is on the site is there entirely for Taiwan.

>>75294470
>People who know nothing about analyzing data only care about the least important data point of all
Yeah, that’s /#

>>75294613
It depends on who kneels to who
Still, I don't see any info about Holo on Bilibili event other than that twitter

>>75294465
You mean that EN didn't have a gen for a longer time compared to other branches? Sure. But not a meltdown over lack of streams or that it was a dark period, and saying they spammed is a bit of a exaggeration.

>>75294657
there are Taiwanese steaming on Twitch and YouTube too, they're 4views even

>>75294682
>>75294470
Kill yourselves ENsharts, VOD views don't mean shit.

>>75292858

>>75294513
they hate Aqua now
also based on the leaks it's supposed to be Suisei and Matsuri

>>75294696
Kiara also publicly asked for EN3 and forced herself to stream because no one was on in EN

>>75294515
No need to make assumptions Anon, we can test that

Why they hate on my nigga mori so much, bros? :(

https://twitter.com/FandingOfficial/status/1787772698694938806/
Kronii clothes look like typical clothes worn by pornhwa characters

>>75294613
I mean, it's not like Taiwan can do anything about it since it's a tiny country while China is like 100 times bigger and richer too

>>75294742
Feminized

Can’t stop winning. Advent mogged, promise mogged, Niji en obliterated

https://twitter.com/takanelui/status/1787780279387804144
Seems like Lui is participating in some radio show with whoever the fuck this male is.

>>75294624
Dumb and dumber getting taken out back really was the turning point and allowed for omegay to be removed. Just a shame that it wasn't done sooner to avoid the rest of the homos getting let in.

>>75294711
You’re actually a retard. VOD views have financial implications to YT and the streamer. They give 0 fucks about CCV number, but are meticulous in analyzing viewership and getting the VOD count right.

>>75294718
Kiara was asking for EN3 well before that and she always tends to push herself to stream.

>>75294803
She was sick and needed to rest.

why aren't ID fans asking for ID4 excessively like EN fans did with EN3?

>>75294774
44k off her old channel, that's impressive

>>75294696
I think the middle part does look like quite the slump.

>>75294657
no, they use bahamut their own version of b2

>>75294774

>>75294612
Your point of comparison is referencing literally the single biggest incident Hololive has ever experienced???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>75294817
They tried but their threads keep dying prematurely

>>75293828
It's a mistake to try and put irreconcilably different fan bases under Cover's roof. Adding to that is not a positive.

>>75294776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masayoshi_%C5%8Cishi
This?

>>75294817
Well they will be shoot down with the question like can you indonesian fans financially support id4?

>>75294854
The Zhang incident is nothing compared to the Holocaust fucktard. Chocoten and Pekora lost hundreds of hours of streams like that.

>>75294776
that's the guy who sang GIFT (Tenshi-sama OP)

https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1787782257098547645

>>75294913
It's funny how HoloEN girls kept begging for EN3 while HoloID girls don't want to expand anymore

>>75294712

>>75293828
>SEAfags
>Not being sexpest
Where will you find mythical creatures for this?

>>75294814
Yes, but pushing herself even in times when she should rest is a tendency of hers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZl7UMmZZdI

>>75294962
Can you list other times where she forced herself to stream sick?

>>75294696
It was grim. Fans knew it, talents knew it, hell even management figured it out and canned Omega in 2022, but course correction takes too long.

>>75294709
How this even work? Im pretty sure china is blocking tons of holo collabs? But they are fine with a concert in CHINA?

Phase vs NijiEN is an interesting race

>>75294954
>mythical creatures
So we are looking for unicorns?

>>75294941
Goes to show how pathetic the old gens are, especially ID1

>>75294998
b2 needs money and hololive coming back will make them money

>>75294951

>>75294928
You now remember how close together both of those were. Only a few months apart.
And the holocaust didn't really stir up the fanbase for an extended period of time, which I assume was his metric since he cited them. It just kinda happened one day and after everybody got up to speed with what happened we just kinda had to accept it though iirc some people initially were hoping they might be restored some day and went schizo over some of Subarus VODs being supposedly deleted instead of hidden. In terms of fanbase turmoil specifically it was kind of a one and done sort of thing. Zhangs were the infestation who kept being an omnipresent liability for eons.

>>75295032
pfffft

>>75294997
Didn't ask for your headcanon.

>>75294941
ID can't afford lives and projects, and their fanbase isn't as healthy as HoloEN was. You think someone like Ollie wants more competition? A stiff breeze could kill her channel.

>>75294724
I'm just eyeballing it

>>75295032
You don’t understand sister, IRyS has a non-shitter average when you include raids…

>>75295067
>t.tourist retard

>>75295005
mythical creatures aren't allowed on streams in SEA by law anymore last I heard, plans fucked

>>75295028
Still retarded, if thats the case why the fuck holo still cant play chinese games or collabs with games owned in part by china? Imba fauna play honkay tomorrow kek

It's happening

>>75295077
Ollie would love more members to leech from. That's her thing

>>75294361
That really was the final straw.
Before that point, there was only gradually increasing grumbling then and not just from hardcore unicorns.

Everything built up to this perfect shitstorm:
>Lack of streams due to sickness and especially from the favorites in Gura and Ina who were on official hiatus.
>The absolute state of EN management, from how aimless they were (shorts channel discontinued with no content replacement, Omega the character being useless, etc.) to just plain mismanagement (most prominently but not limited to IRyS).
>The Kronii "betrayal" and Cover's anemic response riling up previously quiet unicorns.
>The ham-fisted way Cover was trying to shill the homos, including conveniently timed no-debut-overlap rules >>75294345
>Homobeggars getting more and more annoying, the worst having this unholy mission to treat tempus as EN3 and effectively nijifying holo EN.
>The suspension of the homo who probably had the largest overlap with the holo fanbase no doubt soured the opinions of some of the latter.
>Many holo fans that in principle support unity were gradually realizing that they actually didn't care about watching the homos and just wanted to watch hololive, and were getting tired of being shilled or begged at.

And then tempus 2 dropped and management's disastrous handling of it. That was the beginning of the end. I could foresee a scenario where Cover threaded that needle such that unity could be mostly maintained (though the homos would still not be particularly successful) but they completely blew it.

>>75295113
That law is 5 or 6 years old by this point

>>75295066
>Unironically mad
So it was a phasefaggot all this time.

>>75294544
>The funniest part about posts saying shit like that is that it's 100% made by the most oblivious kind of person in the first place
Yeah exactly. Pretty much all the EN girls have talked about how bad things were during that period. The EN diector even addressed it directly, there would be no reason for him to reassure that they are working to keep improving things if there wasn't an issue.
No matter what cope they have, the numbers don't lie

>>75294774
A shame all those pity subs left so quickly.

>>75295137
it's still very funny to shitpost about

>>75294724
Jesas, Kaela is on a different planet

>>75295127
Even she must realize at this point she'd just lose viewers to them.

>>75294724
The 3rd gen blessing worked for ID

what name do we call this particular schizo? Fineschizo because he reminds me of that comic of a dog inside of a burning house?

>>75294711
>Less than 20 mins ago
Anon, Imma fucking

>>75295185
Kaela is the best. I wished they promised ID3 during the first HoloEXPO instead of uproar.

>>75295119
It's always happening, anonchama. She ticked up then ticked down. It's why she's at 0 for the week rather than -10000

>>75294711
thats the contrary anon, they pay for vod views not ccv

Looks like the strongest watamate caught wind of that post and is going off.

>>75295145
>sub 2k members stream kek

>>75293766
How did he do it then? Why is he much more successful when it was not the AKA virtual box audience? Was he a famous reincarnation of a previous vtuber or a popular streamer that converted?

>>75294724
The Anya incline is real

>>75295242
She’s not the best, she’s just there, all the time

>>75294854
Hey, anon said "Worst"

>>75295136
And yet ARMIS still came, and ARMIS 2 is also teased to debut this year

>>75294711
I like this post because the image is supporting an entirely different discussion against his point

>>75295171
>no reason for him to reassure that they are working to keep improving things if there wasn't an issue
Anon, that's generic corpo talk.
>the numbers don't lie
Okay anon, so tell me, when exactly did they bring up low stream hours?

>>75295082

So I heard that Ame is coming back this week.
Does that mean she has finished burning out from her burn out of a burn out after her sporadic streams for 2 years now, going to 3 years of being burnt out?

>>75295242
Too bad ID is of the inferior gender so they didn't get prioritised

The situation was so grim that the EN fanbase literally reversed the direction that the subcultural zeitgeist of Hololive as a whole was moving in.
Not even the nips were able to do that.

>>75295276
And that makes her the best

I just realize JP actually called Sisyphus "Iwaoji". They really gotta stop calling every man "oji"

>>75295252
anonchama?

>>75295237
She had barely below 20k viewers that day too.

>>75295251
based

>>75295317
the HomoEN shitstorm was EN vtubing's Kizuna Ai/Gamebu yab

>>75294817
They were starting to but some of the Id girls seem to have put a stop to that

>>75295004
Isn't Lumi woman more of a twitch streamer? That's a pretty solid showing from PC. Also solid from Finana, almost made it to 2 Finanas

>>75295334
i think that term carried over from Getting Over It's character being a bald half-naked old man.

>>75295251
Isn't Helmite sick of losing these days?

>>75295317
nips did start reacting harder with the retarded no overlap rule for the homo failure 3ds
also the taiwanese got retarded cover to remove homos from their merch

Miko gold? I mean not like it is a surprise

>>75295284
>ARMIS 2 is also teased to debut this year
???

>>75295276
Nah, she is great.

>>75295433
How many times have Cover failed by saddling the homos with the girls? It seems like Yagoo never stops trying with his retarded saviorfag behavior

>>75295466
Retard.

>>75294941
>HoloID girls don't want to expand anymore
Isn't that mostly ID1? Have Kaela or Zeta mentioned not wanting more?

>>75295298
Yeah you clearly have no idea what he said.
Your bait needs a bit more but good effort though

>>75295433
>also the taiwanese got retarded cover to remove homos from their merch
qrd?

>>75295536
No, they're not failures that blame their fanbase instead of themselves

>>75295433
Yeah it's not like they haven't done anything, I more mean that they've been slowly losing ground for a while. Meanwhile we went through a helliish year and change as various different minor things occurred every few months until the pressure seemingly hit a breaking point and we flipped almost everything back in a matter of months. And we've only gotten more entrenched ever since. We do have a few advantages compared to jp unicorns though, jp viewers have a tougher fight probably

>>75295584
https://files.catbox.moe/%2Fp4nkp9.webm

>>75294817
Maybe they are and you just don't hang out on Indonesian Facebook

>>75295536
Kaela and Zeta have a healthy foreigner fanbase so I doubt they care

>>75295523
>Retard
It's a 40k+ stream, Pekora and Aqua are split POV so it won't peak as high by default

>>75295580
>he wants the quick ruffdown
Haha, guess it's time to not hold my bark back...
>orphaned and adopted into a Noble demon dog litter
>final students of a legendary guard dogs
>secret daughters of the mysterious big BAUd who's actually good
>such stacies that they not only add every Holo to their ever-expanding harem but also the Nijis
>her genmates and her friend (who is a literal rock)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer sound of their BAU BAUs
>chosen to become the new oshi of the holofan-refugees
>masters and can fully control their *psh nothin personell kid" demonic guard dog powers
>wields shredder's steel claws (an anime-like and cooler Wolverine claws) and can teleport behind you
>beats one of the most powerful fairies in history that's hyped up by all the Nijisisters
>grows up to become full grown puppies, can make all the ruffians, rufferans, wuffians parasocial
>just saying "BAU BAU" makes everybody drop their pants for them
>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional yab that appears at the last second
>is technically royalty, their biological father is the reincarnation of the founder of the Northwest Passage
>breaks up budding romances between other Holos that were developing before Advent because everybody sucks thei dicks in the 4th gen onward
>even the protagonists of previous gens hype them up
>can get with and utterly dick down any Holo of their choosing
>Mococo kills herself in a noble self sacrifice with her fujobait sister to commit the final yab but not really because the even bigger bigger yab comes along to get the true Fuwamoco ending
>becomes some of the strongest chuubas on the continent
>has the option to cuck Nerissa away from Kiara, Biboo away from Kaela, Pekora away from Miko, etc.
>now a future 3D version of theirselves from an alternate timeline is trying to kill them because they're too stacy
>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought their franchise to the spotlight,
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's clips are about them
>is Yagoo's favorite Hololive chuuba, he even goes on to call the previous generations embarrassing

>>75295580
They were originally included in the merch gacha. It did not go down well

>>75295596
Except you EN unicorns don't have the number, so good luck with the fight

>>75295536
Zeta has said nothing for or against it and Kaela has been saying stuff to help a potential kohai do better for over a year. She would be pumped

>>75295536
Kaela is to busy pretending to be EN

>>75295597
no

>>75295523
Noutoddler seethe

>>75295632
The fuck does that mean? EN unicorns absolutely crushed the homobegger zeitgeist

FUCK CLIQUE, WHICH VIDEO GAME FACTION IS YOUR OSHI BELONG TO?
>NINTENDO
>PLAYSTATION
>PC

Why this get filter? It not even a Z

>>75295668
Check threshold

>>75295661
Most of the Holo girls would be Nintendo.

>>75295596
Feels like the JP girls and fans are more passive.

>>75295668
satanist vrabi hates angels

>>75295638
You're saying this as if everyone else other than Kobo and Anya isn't doing the same

>>75295536
Zeta and Kaela are top earners in the branch. Risu and Iofi are the shitters who spoke out about people wanting ID4 and being able to financially support them.

>>75295668
It will go away eventually, sometimes it's just like that for the most current part of the stream

>>75295661
is playstation still relevent in 2024?

>>75295612
Retarded 53tourist, hang yourself.

>>75295707
I heard they're already planning on PS6 after how poorly the PS5 sold

>>75295707
Pretty sure most Holo stream game on it

>>75295693

>>75295632
If by number, you mean amount of people screeching on xwitter than you right. If only that could translate to other numbers.

>>75295632
The numbers grow every single time you move the goalposts about what a unicorn is.

>>75295632
Eh I don't see it as a competition, I meant it literally that jp has to deal with a tougher situation. They have a much greater jormalfag per capita audience. More normalfags=more pressure on unicorn-type fans whenever they try to say something. We have our own disadvantages too, I think our position was worse than them for a long time. It's only recently that it somehow flipped.

>>75295693
ID3

>>75295714
Said the botsagi lol

I have a weird fantasy which is imagining Sora hanging out with these 2 (I am a /jp/fag)

Mikogold today?

>>75295753
Kobo...

>>75295412
Why do you keep trying, sister?

>>75295735
Is that total superchat?

>>75295773
>>75295523

Can I have some Kanata numbers? Because it felt like she reclined but I am not sure

>>75295773
akupeko

>>75295753
>kobo
>lowest Supas
Atleast she have CCV's right kobokek!?!?!?

>>75295791
>30k in 20 min
Sounds like an easy gold to me

>>75295786
Yes. Doesn't include streamlabs which we do not have accurate information for.

>>75295794
what do you mean? 12k is normal second army numbers

>>75295773
Yes

>>75295804
she has way more music vod views, not sure if those can pay the difference though

You might not believe this but this is Nijisanji highest stream today so far if not for Chronoir stream/premiere (idk)

>>75295773
When has Miko not won gold when sets her mind to it?

>>75295627
What was this for? Surly even Cover isn't that stupid.

>>75295811
Man, I wish we could get information about membership number
I'm curious because I believe most Holo focus more on membership than SC

>>75295753
So her earnings are barely those of Ollie? Is that higher than Shiori?

>>75295817
is kanata second army?

miko has 30 more minutes to get as high as she can before akupeko start at the same game

>>75295817
more like leech army with koyori

>>75295845
Didn't someone post a graph about this a few threads back

>>75295807
Your post infuriate me because you cannot "hear" numbers, wdym "Sounds like"?

>>75295804
>Reminder that Cover rent cinemas because they thought ID's are excited to see kobo in 3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtDaC2vXpVM
Why are these idols collabing with men?
I thought idols don't do that?

>>75295850
yes?

>>75295831
They don't, music views pay very little. If Kobo can make up the difference anywhere it's VOD views (not great with Indonesian viewers but better than nothing) and local market product collabs. Possible her streamlabs are higher too since the majority of her audience is actual Indonesians more accustomed to using that format than they are SCs. Impossible to know though.

>>75295850
she always was

>>75295838
too bad they cant buy bots for every day

>>75295860
yeah they were, but not as paying costumers

>>75295851
Miko should join aqupeko fight

>>75295807
https://vrabi.net/video/MXY0oyf4gEU
https://vrabi.net/video/SQN588gB9SM

>>75295845
Memberships are incredibly problematic both because we don't know how many they have, how long each membership is retained for once gifted, and in which currencies they are.

>>75295851
They won't matter, she will incline until the end

>>75295879
And not like Chronoir get a lot either, 22k for 5 dudes not even Chronoir on Chronoir channel
They are unironically leeching that channel now and let other people on it, and still reclined. I remember when Chronoir shit was getting 60k and sister was fighting to let premiere counted for gold

>>75295842
Last week. Twice in a row even.

>>75295893
She is, indirectly. There's not much actual competing for this game so if they play at the same time it'll look like she's part of the collab.

>"35P" show up
>Shitting on other girls as usual
>Contribute nothing to the thread

today we'll see if Miko almost getting 50k with this game is fair or Mikobotter is back

>>75295842
You mean like the day she jobbed with a 8 person collab?

>>75295944
falseflagging to do pekovsmiko is a tradition now, not even the jannies do something

>>75295961
Its the same guy he just goes endless back and forth pretending to be a fan of either and arguing, unless someone bans him.

>>75295910
Retard

>>75295831
Even if it does, Kobo spends way more money than the other two to fund her projects

>>75295910
>Get his number wrong, again
Wrong thread?

More clip numbers.
Drop from ja viewers today across the board. Marika generated less views as well compared to the qualifiers; would probably be more if Kuzuha won. Pekora is unaffected with more DBZK.
(HL, NJ, VSpo)
Split is 18.7M(-1.8M), 11.8M(-1.6M), 5.7M(-640k)
Recent is 4.6M(+220k), 2.2M(-1.2M), 1.1M(-230k)
JA Split is 12.6M(-1.8M), 11.1M(-1.6M), 5.5M(-590k)
EN Split is 4.5M(-20k), 430k(-80k), 79k(-11k)
Regular Split is 13.4M(-750k), 7.4M(-1.0M), 2.2M(-190k)
Shorts Split is 5.3M(-1.0M), 4.4M(-630k), 3.5M(-460k)

>>75295961
The jannies literally participate in it lmao

>>75295942
she's like 10+ hours into the game
nice "competition"

>>75295684
True. There are a few major counterexamples I can think of in the past, but otherwise most fans seem absolutely petrified at the thought of pushing back at what would likely be a stupid decision. I've talked one jp fan about this before actually, I remember being weirded about by the conversation because he was basically implying that saying something directly to her was pointless because her discussing it on stream was proof that she knew exactly what she was doing and that her choice was made with a perfect understanding of the situation
He never had a good answer for me when I asked him how his oshi was supposedly capable of being completely aware of the choice she was
wanted to make if none of her fans ever say what they don't want out loud. Just restating "she knows because of course they all know" over and over. If she is considering a male collab, that means she MUST want to secretly kill off the unicorn fans she has no way of being aware of the existence of. The idea of them being human beings who might occasionally just be making a mistake was alien to the guy.

>>75296046
Graph.