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>I thought I'd be forgotten an unable to do anything on my own
Nijisanji really not beating the black company accusations

>> No.75212164

>>75212015
Watch out OP, the nijijanny is gonna seethe hard, post it too truthful for his poor faggot eyes.

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>>75212015

>> No.75212241

>>75212164
I know about the phasejanny and the morijanny, does niji actually have their own?

>> No.75212262

Nijisis our response?

>> No.75212309

>>75212241
I refuse to believe that anyone actually thinks there is a nijijanny here

>> No.75212493

>>75212309
Congrats for proving you are a tourist, Threads like these get pruned constantly during SEAhours, one time KFP got the bread hijacked by ennaschizo and rhe nijijanny kept deleting the good ones.
There is definitely a retard, these are unpaid clowns after all, thry hav eto live in shame and hide forever.

>> No.75213223

>>75212207
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.75213311

Unironically what the fuck does Nijisanji do to their talents behind the scenes? This sounds like some cult-like behavior.

>> No.75213402

>>75212015
SWNJH

>> No.75213423

>>75212493
But more then that.... they do it all for free.

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>>75213311
>>75213223
After Doki posted her little hospital band, she started posting a bunch of doom shit.
The reason this image exists? She was retweeting a picture of a dog with the same meme.
Between the hospital band and her mysterious complete absence heavily implying suicide attempt, and posts like that immediately after for a few weeks followed by ANOTHER complete silence... it's kind of easy to see how dragoons ended up a little freaked the fuck out by the end of #WhereIsSelen

>> No.75213523

>>75212015
https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?t=264

>> No.75213641

fuck, does anyone have MIka's posts from october where she went on a huge epiphany rant on twitter about how she finally realized people actually loved her for herself and not just as an avenue to get to people she knew, with people approaching her, becoming friends, and then ditching her as soon as they were introduced to NijiEN members?

>> No.75213654

>>75212309
either you are a nijinig or wasn't arround during hololive summer concert
just check the archive and prepare your keks

>> No.75213677

>>75212207
>dokifags once again trying to make everything about their fat whore
Fuck off, this is about Mint

>> No.75213814

>>75213677
It's called corroborating a story, retard. Mint hasn't told much about what went on there, so all we can go off of is the people we DO know about.

>> No.75214127

>>75212207
her 2 friends carried her to masters? ok

>> No.75214159

>Still calls it heaven
>Still misses being part of something
>Still misses her friends (Not Doki)
Don't think this is the win you think it is, lol

>> No.75214398

>>75214159
Just part of the kayfabe

>> No.75214588

>>75214159
>Still living in /lazu+/ like it exists
But enough about mental problems.

>> No.75214595

>>75213677
>>75214159
You don't care about Mint and never saw her stream.

>> No.75214605

>>75212207
I am begging to hate the goons and further more their fps apex loving mascot.

>> No.75214767

>sister seething about doki in every thread

>> No.75214841
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>>75213641
Funny thing about that. It wasn't from October unless it happened twice, it was from February, post-graduation. >>70046436

As for why that's funny, In the pursuit of cooming /vsj+/ came to the conclusion that the eyes all over her design could be in reference to something from Indonesian folklore known as an evil eye, which Mowtendoo just so happened to "randomly" tweet without context 3 weeks prior. So basically she was already signed on with VShojo when she came to this epiphany about her self worth. >>73987663 >>73987724 >>73987786 >>73988009

>> No.75214900

>make thread about mgs loving, big boss mint
>dragoons come in and can’t shut up
Stop please, as much as I wish they would collab it’s not happening for what ever reason

>> No.75215344

>>75214841
Anon, I like your post but jesas how many deleted shit you are gonna have in it? I’m not opening warosu over what picrel already proves

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>>75214605
Please do. Some of the goons can be annoying, but Selen herself is a sweet person absolutely worth supporting. Even at her absolute lowest, it seems like the only thing keeping her going was her fans and supporters... to the point that even what was probably meant to be her suicide note was to leave a video about unity as a parting message...

Seriously, fuck that place.

>> No.75215580

>>75214900
Isn't the thread about how Niji breaks their talents and ruins their self worth?

I know Nina talked a lot about it, too.

>> No.75215640

>>75212015
?
she has a huuuuuge imposter syndrome. that’s all that it is.

>> No.75215756

>>75212309
>>75212241
There was a thread calling out nijisisters in /nijien/ literally doxxing a guy's facebook, school, his pictures, and where he is from because he said negligible on the virtual rhapsody.
The thread got pruned while the doxx stayed up.

Don't believe me? Search "is the new nyfco?" In warosu or archives.

Back then it was blatantly obvious there was a nijijanny who impulsively deletes threads but now he is being careful with the prunning and banning after people have been calling him out

>> No.75215792

>>75215344
Anon most of that is just old posts

>> No.75215946

>>75215756
>is the new nyfco
KEKkk sounds like this is after the doxxsite got nuked

Literally Unsurprising that the doxxsisters are now squatting in /nijien/

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>>75214159
>Every single liver EVER who has quit Nijisanji has been letting us know about how shit of an experience it was to work there (with warying degrees of subtlety)
>But not Pomu for some reason

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>>75215756
>>75215946

>> No.75216458

>>75216081
nta anon but as much as I’d like to blame this on “heaven”, this is just mint’s brainworms at work.

>> No.75216543

>>75216253
oh no no no holocuckis not like this lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>> No.75216599

>>75216458
If it was just brainworms, she would still be waiting in the graduation queue to this day.

>> No.75216622

>>75215756
oh I remember that thread. It was really gross. I still can't believe that shit happened.
>>75216253
NTA but I definitely remember it. The OP censored out the names and facebook shit, but it was uncensored in the /nijien/ thread. I'll probably try to find it later if nobody else posts it first. I think it was a day or two after the doxxsite went down

>> No.75216624

>>75216458
It's both. Despite all the work she put in, management heavily neglected her, which feeds that negative self-worth image. Like all that work she did didn't amount to anything.

>> No.75216692

>>75216081
she literally has.

>> No.75216828

>>75216692
Exactly. Sisters still believe that Mint is still loyal to the brand because they need her as a weapon against Doki.

>> No.75216945

>>75216624
she has terminal brainworms and those come from way before her time in heaven. i’ would’ve liked to blame this on heaven but it’s just her usual brainworms.
i’m more interested in hearing the other side of the story to have all pieces of this puzzle but that’s not going to happen unless you join.

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>200k
Grim.
She shouldn't have waited so long. The drama ship sailed away with dokibird's free 700k.

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>>75216828
sisters use doki to attack sayu even though they hate doki.
sisters use mint to attack doki even though they hate mint.
sisters use holo en to attack mint even though they hate holo en.

>> No.75217627

>>75216253
>>75216622
>>>/vt/thread/74577666
This one anonchamas
>>>/vt/thread/74570629
and this too

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>>75217337

with how obsessive they are about our oshi i always picture the niji sisters like some deranged stalker

as a fan of both pomu and selen though i'm glad that mint is getting more subs i don't always watch her stream because doki generally streams sometimes in the same timeslot i also watch sayu from time to time those are basically my 3 vtubers

>> No.75217702

>>75212015
relax mint, its just 200k subs. no need to shove a sword into the corpo that made who you are.

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>>75213641
>So basically she was already signed on with VShojo when she came to this epiphany about her self worth
Way before that. Michi's mascot Jared was in Kuro's debut video, in the bottom left.

>> No.75217726

>>75217627
Thanks anon, I was still looking
>>74577777(me)
I didn't even notice I got quints on 7. I wasted them, dammit.

>> No.75217774

>>75217702
you think mint was nothing without niji en.
it turns out that niji en is nothing without mint.

>> No.75217788

>>75217717
Holy shit.
That's uh... damn. I wonder what the timeline actually looked like, then.

>> No.75217897

>>75213523
Yagoo please... save her...

>> No.75217959

i just genuinely wonder what if mint collabed with doki tomorrow? what would the sisters do? will they attack mint over it? i mean it's unlikely it will happen at all doki is doing fine on her own and so is mint, but man could you imagine the shitstorm sisters would create over this?

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>>75217702
It's over 300k, now, actually.
Still falling btw. almost 14000 more unsubs in the last week. Just 18 million more and we'll finally be at the sub count Niji actually deserves

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>>75217774
you do know that these lovely guys is still employed at nijisanji en right ? even pomu was nothing compared to them when she was here, now fuck off back to /mint/

>> No.75218045

>>75217959
Keep coping. She already chose her side https://twitter.com/MintFantome/status/1787187620109254840

>> No.75218070

>>75217959
I have no doubt in my mind that if that happened, they'd turn on Mint in a second and they'd turn their harassment on overdrive until the branch falls. They're already sending 1 dollar hate messages in her streamlabs.

>> No.75218086

>>75217963
oh jesas

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>>75212015
>200k isn't the biggest, but being able to do it on my own name is what makes it feel the best
Does this slay the Mint joining Hololive rrats?

>> No.75218139

>>75218070
>they'd turn on Mint in a second
they already have, the second she graduated.

>> No.75218146

>>75218026
>the actual daisenpai of NijiCN didn’t matter because some fags showed up

>> No.75218261

>>75218026
Yeah, they were pretty big in 2022.
Then they fucking ate shit and haven't been relevant since, as well as are now ACTIVELY toxic to the point where they're losing subs instead of gaining them.
Do you have any idea how badly you have to fuck up to LOSE subs on youtube?

>> No.75218265

>>75218026
>these lovely guys
I don't see any lovely guys in your image.

>> No.75218275

>>75218139
No they didn't, lol.

>>75218045
It's pretty funny. Maia is even her mod and she's extremely close with Elira. If you think she'd choose Doki over Elira you are delusional. She's just keeping quiet because dragoons are bloodthirsty retards

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75218277

>>75218026
here is your luxiem top dog sister

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>>75218026
Oh, I know him! That's the GRADUATEGRADUATEGRADUATEGRADUATE guy, right?

>> No.75218468

>>75218392
>reduced to a 2 finana streamer
grim

>> No.75218484

>>75218277
>he is the player
>the player is sisyphus
>he changed the camus quote so that sisyphus gets called a monkey
one single step more and he self-reports as a white monkey.

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>>75218146
is mito bigger than kuzuha ? is sora bigger than pekora ? no ? now fuck off back to /mint/.
>>75218261
subs can be regained back pretty easily once they start pumping out fotm games streams. luca, ike and vox are very charismatic, shu not so much and rely too much on collabs.
>>75218277
still great numbers, vox and luca can still do it for nijisanji. dooki and elira both failed to kill off vox, he retained his huge fanbase with only 30k lost in subs.

>> No.75218758

>>75218045
i mean i knew eating pag pag was bad for your health but fucking up your reading comprehension is something scientist will have to study now, by your logic U-san who is close to Matara,Kuro and co. is in good terms with Doki so that means U-sam and the rest has sided with Doki too right? so you hate him too right? fucking dumbass nijinigger

>> No.75218764

I actually predicted that she'd be doing better than Doki.
I think she's one of the best vtubers that exists. Perhaps in the same tier as Fauna.

>> No.75218773

>>75213423
kek they were working for two companies, 4chinhiromoot co ltd AND negrosanjo
two fucking jobs and they did it for zilch

>> No.75218781

>>75218670
>is mito bigger than kuzuha ?
In terms of receiving support from the company? Yes

>> No.75218784

>>75216253
Remove the quotation marks nigga

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>>75218484
Did you say white?

>> No.75218874

>>75212015
It's funny how she says this now, but never bothered saying anything before she left (except in members that one time), ran defense for management every time she could (when she didn't have to), and didn't cut ties with anyone inside nijisanji until it was "convenient" for her, and to this day still defends niji whenever she can+
>professional
Ranting about "heaven" in a "subtle" way isn't professional, she's just a used up whore that lacks a spine

>> No.75218884

>>75218045
Reminiscing about past times with someone who was your friend once upon a time doesn't mean you're still friends to this day.
>>75218275
Projection much?

>> No.75218890

>>75218758
No because it's pretty fucking obvious that Kuro and Matara want nothing to do with Doki and are completely ignoring her and Kuro unfollowed her on all accounts while Mint is still pretty chummy with just about everyone in Hanamori

Face it; it's Doki against basically anyone who has interacted with her extensively, she acted like a retard and attracted a retarded audience that didn't stick around while Mint acted with professionalism and grace and is being rewarded with both genuine friendships and success.

>> No.75218900

>>75218670
not even pekora would exist in this form without sora, she is the heart and soul of hololive. pomu was similar in the fact that this whole rotten structure collapses without her. she kept it all together and when she left, she took all the western fans with her. you see enna drop from 4000 to 800 live viewers and think this is "doing fine".
>subs can be regained back pretty easily
then why don't they?

>> No.75218941

>>75218874
She spoke up about tons of issues she had with management while she was there, you just didn't watch her to know about them.

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>>75218764
It's possible, but it depends on where she ends up. I don't think she has the networking skills necessary to be huge on her own, and she'll likely need a supportive company behind her like holo (or I guess vshojo now) if she wants to blow up(if she even wants that anymore). If she doesn't do that, then she'd likely fall behind doki, who has no interest in joining a corpo but has serious potential to be a huge indie with big events once she gets more time to cook and redebuts with a nice looking model to attract fresh faces with. Mint didn't get the immediate drama boost Doki got to bring over the dragoons immediately, but she came back with a shiny new rig, merch, and a bunch of shilling everywhere, too. They're both going to be fine, even if they drift apart now.

>> No.75218980

>>75218900
You don't even watch Nijisanji and are proudly ignorant so who are you to say why Enna's numbers dropped? Those 4000 viewer streams were at the height of Luxiem's popularity and she was spamming handcam streams. Tonight her numbers were shit because she was both playing a video game and at an entirely different timeslot than her usual.

>> No.75218995

>>75218874
Besides the AR Live postponement (which turned out to be correct), what other defense did she run for management?

>> No.75219002

>>75218874
That's called the Stockholm syndrome.

>> No.75219030

>>75216543
>>75217627
AAIIIIEEEEE its real Nijikeks
how do we respond?!?!?!

>> No.75219123

>>75218980
Sister... You can see the numbers yourself. In january, Enna was averaging like 2-3k+ streams on random crap.
In March, it's more like sub1k-1.5k

>> No.75219124

>>75212015
why wont other Niji girls just graduate after seeing most of the ex niji success

>> No.75219144

>>75218890
Ummm a lot of people have collab with Doki too? Even if it is past life accounts. Also doki collabed with Froot who also collabed with michi. Collabs mean nothing. Regis and Axel also collabed with Kuro who is on dokis side. Don't make up head canons anons

>> No.75219218

>>75218392
Why isn't he playing with Boaty and mmorpgrs?

>> No.75219284

>>75218781
even kanae is bigger than mito lol. what do you mean kuzuha doesnt get alot of support from nijisanji's management, guy is literally their main sponsorships merchant and do jp conserts which riku personally attends himself.
>>75218900
enna was already hemorrhaging views when she was hanging out with kyo, way before pomu graduated and left nijisanji. yeah, subs can be easily earned. just spam vertical streams and shorts, like aviel's cashmaker rin penrose did.

>> No.75219315

>>75218890
>Mint is still pretty chummy with just about everyone in Hanamori
First off, proof? Second, after the black stream? No way in hell.
>attracted a retarded audience that didn't stick around
Are you talking about 120k something CCV Doki got on her redebut? Do you... not know how this works? Debuts are always huge buffs. Always, regardless of any drama. Dragoons stuck around.

>> No.75219351

>>75212309
There is, but don't worry
The volcano will explode soon and we'll be free of the filth

>> No.75219386

>>75219284
>>subs can be earned easily
Then why aren’t they earning them?

>> No.75219420

>>75219284
>what do you mean kuzuha doesnt get alot of support from nijisanji's management
I never fucking said that, retarded nijifaggot

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>>75218890
Meanwhile, back in reality, everybody who's ever contacted her in any form outside of that horrid place adores her and is climbing over each other for collabs and sponsorships.
Haven't you noticed that nobody who isn't directly on Niji's payroll has ever said anything even slightly negative about Selen? Ever?

You'd think in over 3 years, SOMEONE would have a grudge. Instead it's mysteriously only the people directly within Nijisanji, the black corporation known for bullying, harassment, and lying about it, huh.

>> No.75219527

>>75219442
Also weebcon has yet to debunk the false news and no niji liver was invited this year either

>> No.75219561

>>75219386
look at the livers that are losing subs, chat is restricted to 5-10 weeks of sub period. now look at vanta, bandage, claude, vivi, kunai and meloco. chat is for sub, but there is only a 20 minutes duration before you can interact with the vtuber. vox's chat is restricted to four months of sub period. how can you gain new fans when they cant even write in chat, but its not the livers fault. i blame it on falseeyed's discord faggots and donki's faggoon brigades

>> No.75219565

>>75219442
Yeah, because HYTE were such great buddies with Selen, lol. The ones on Niji's payroll are probably dying to talk more shit about her. Everyone coming out to support Doki don't actually know what it's like have her as a coworker. And of course people would be climbing over each other to collab; she redebuted to 120k people (of which she lost 117k) and they smelled money in the water.

>> No.75219566

>>75217788
I do definitely feel like those three (Matara/Nina, Kuro/Mysta, Michi/Mika) were on the same book when it came to it. They were too close for it. But with terrible working conditions, and just fucking everything Nijisanji was doing, and lastly ARLIVE, that wasn't going to cut it for them.
Mysta had his tax issues and Niji was making it worse, Nina was on a terrible mental state and Mika was on fucking the now defunct ID and likely it was around this time that the tax shit likely was starting too.
And then, what I do think is that these three decided to just quit, probably not really with huge intentions of joining VShojo (as stated by both Kuro and Matara), just do their own thing. And it was possibly also influenced by Pomu getting rejected over her opportunity that she really probably broke her, and maybe made Matara more secure of "you know what fuck it, and fuck this company"

Blah blah, the three start working on their new models by the time they were also graduating, they get approached by VShojo thanks to Ironmouse realizing that Kuro was fucking suffering (cue the comment in his stream) and Nina as well, so VShojo took interest and grabbed the two, while Mika waited for her turn to graduate, and while working with Kuro for her new model (jared or the bunny was designed with the second draft of the model, as stated by Michi, she was originally going to be a sort of Snake girl, but she didn't liked the brown hair and scribbled around the model while being on call with Kuro, and that's where Jared took form because she was extremely medicated)
https://youtu.be/rTHaqFyAUHs?t=4
And likely since they already got the two, why not grab the third, so they probably also had their eyes in Michi
I don't know why it took so long tho, either some contract or something because her design was made in fucking October if this is true, literally 2 months before graduating

>> No.75219639

>>75219565
The ceo is a dragoon lmao

>> No.75219652

>>75219561
Yeah, it’s definitely not the organs’ fault for their own actions, or in how they continue to hide from criticism of said actions.

>> No.75219700

>>75219565
>The ones on Niji's payroll are probably dying to talk more shit about her
This says more about them than it does about Doki.
>Everyone coming out to support Doki don't actually know what it's like have her as a coworker
As if you do. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.75219752

Doki was playing OW2 the other day with Rubensargasm. Ruben is a friend of Vox and plays games with him sometimes (mostly with EvilToaster coming along). He was also the first guy Vox collabed with after the infamous Black Stream.

Doki is being based af for not giving two shits about the drama. So is Ruben and so is everyone else that doesn't care that much about niji being a fucking sweatshop or the absolute clowns that still work there. Q4 is over anyway, so they'll reap what they've sown.

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>>75219561
> i blame it on falseeyed's discord faggots and donki's faggoon brigades
You have proof that they're involved, don't you? Both discords are public, so you can easily go in and check for yourself if any raiding's going on, though you'll likely be banned if you even mention Niji in the dragoon one. Like Doki, they've moved on from that trash heap. You have nobody to blame but yourselves for the situation you're in. I doubt they even need any of that since nobody even gives enough of a shit to hatewatch them, let alone raid.
>>75219565
Yaass! Preach, sister! Just two more weeks and people will start hating Dokibird! Two more weeks! It's not like she hasn't ever mentioned Nijisanji once... ever.
Seriously, I'll drop my doki membership right now if you can find a single instance of Dokibird ever saying "Nijisanji" after February 5.

>> No.75219843

>>75215344
holy fucking newfag

>> No.75219948

>>75219752
So many livers have collabed that goes against every theory that anyone hates doki or the cliques. People just wanna hate doki so no good reason so the project onto everyone to justify their hate.

>> No.75219985

>>75219787
Don't wanna be that guy, but she did mention Nijisanji in that stream about tips on becoming a vtuber iirc

It wasn't in a negative note though, so it doesn't counts in my book

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>>75219985
>Don't wanna be that guy, but she did mention Nijisanji in that stream about tips on becoming a vtuber iirc
Well fuck.
Whatever, I'll resub tomorrow.
Guess I can't use that point anymore.

>> No.75220036

Can we please go back to thinking everyone is friends behind the scenes and it's really nijisanjis management at fault.

I still believe the livers were trick/blackmailed into making that black video

>> No.75220152

>>75220036
Also I think ex nijis are avoiding her because 1 they probably never talked to her in the first place

2 they don't wanna be collabed banned from corpos.

>> No.75220306

>>75220034
She didn't mention the company's name, just talked about the benefits of joining a company.

>> No.75220313

>>75220036
Even if it is entirely management’s fault, which I’m certain it isn’t, I am not going to simply ignore what has already been done by the organs.

>> No.75220348

>>75220036
fucking cope
>>75220152
you mother fuckers don't even watch streams
she collabed with mysta multiple times

>> No.75220360

>>75220306
I'm going through the vod with a fine-toothed comb now. I don't wanna lose my day 1 status.

>> No.75220414

>>75219652
yes im sure the livers are crying right now from donki doing suicide attempts to drag the whole branch down with her to the grave, despite earning alot of money from vod views since losing subs is not that big of an issue if you can pull out 10-15k vod views per stream.
>>75219787
i dont watch to check out a discord full with donki's seething faggoons, getting an erection whenever their sewer slide oshi announced a new merch or sponsorship or getting a new toygun. pretty sure it was you fags anyway, attacking enna and sending devilish hate superchats asking about her purity and ruining her birthday wishes.

>> No.75220446

>>75220348
Mysta also collabed with her friends.....so your point

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>>75220414

>> No.75220552

>>75220414
>pretty sure it was you fags anyway, attacking enna and sending devilish hate superchats asking about her purity and ruining her birthday wishes.
...bvtm already claimed ownership for that, though. Seconds after it happened, he uploaded it to twitter. You're chasing the wrong people again. Dragoons moved on. They do not care about Nijisanji and won't go to them even to hatewatch.

Also your comments on money are pretty sad considering Millie's recent superchat begging to the point where she took the money she said would be for charity and used it to buy a new apartment, and how Vivi was so stressed she cried after spilling food. You can't put the cat back in the bag, sister. Life sucks in Nijisanji, and we all know it now.

>> No.75220567

>>75220414
So, it isn’t a big deal, but they can’t gain subs because they are being suppressed at the same time? I believe you said it was easy to do.

>> No.75220589

>>75220036
They're definitely not friends, but the "war" and "taking sides" the catalog seems to think the vtubers are doing is pure fan fiction. Outside of NijiEN anyways. Who still gives a fuck what the people on the inside think when they can't do anything but follow the herd to not get isolated.

>> No.75220681

>>75219566
I would think it was the other way around, those people deciding to quit + Pomu getting that opportunity denied that pushed her to quit as well. The last Minecraft stream with Pomu and Nina is really something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RByxucNgxtY&t=14900s It's one thing to be denied an opportunity you really wanted, but another entirely to have that happen and have one of your closest friends leave in rapid succession.

Also Mika and Mysta both said that they had their graduations planned LONG before they actually happened. My guess is that Niji wanted to squeeze more Luxiem cash out of Mysta so they delayed it or something, but he supposedly had already planned it before Nina had even decided she wanted to leave. Then when Mika announced her graduation she said that she planned before "all of her friends", which would place her request at sometime near the beginning of the year. It's kinda sweet that they became a found family while at Niji and got to reunite outside of it and I hope Mint joins them soon

>> No.75220772
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>Doki, Mint and Sayu are thriving
Get fucked sisters, you can't do anything to them anymore

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>>75220414
>despite earning alot of money from vod views
Jesus fuck, over the past days I have seen a few sisters suddenly caring about VOD views, is this the new cope?

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>>75219985
I just sped through that segment. She didn't mention it once, even there. My membership is safe, and so is my bullet point to use against sisters again.

>> No.75221157

>>75221008
Yes, because they have no other metric to stand on.

>> No.75221159

>>75219561
Sounds like cope

>> No.75221193

>>75220036
Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you nijinig

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>>75221008
It absolutely is, because their sc cope fell beneath the kunai makes less than a burger flipper fact and their ccv look like this

>> No.75221825

>>75221276
>Meloco
JP stream (that bled hundreds of viewers when Nui went live, so much for "EN")
>Scarle
Huge raid
>Uki
Legit
>Vanta
Raided to 1k

Wonder if NijiEN has hit any 3view-only days yet

>> No.75221914 [DELETED] 

>>75212015
>The jews told us that Germany hated them for no reason so Germany was the bad guy

>> No.75222224

>>75221914
Fuck off /pol/tard

>> No.75222397

>>75221914
Stay based /pol/chad

>> No.75222512
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>>75219561
>i blame it on falseeyed's discord faggots and donki's faggoon brigade
Let's pretend for a moment that the organs are innocent and they were tricked or even forced to side with Niji. Sure, it sucks that they are the target of random antis and shitposters, but you can only blame Anycolor for that. Nijisanji are the ones who decided to attack and smear Doki's reputation on two different occasions for no good reason whatsoever, using their own talents as human shields and mouthpieces for the company while the faceless management hid behind them. Do you think people like Elira and Vox decided by themselves to lock their channels and memory hole the black frame stream? They would love to talk about it if they could, at least to get some pity points from their own fanbases. The talents can't even defend themselves because Nijisanji doesn't let them.

You don't have to like or side with Doki. Hell, you can even keep trying to convince yourself that she is a grifter. But it should be pretty easy to see that Nijisanji is using the talents as scapegoats to cover their own fuckups. The organs are only in this mess thanks to Nijisanji. And it wasn't an accident, it was by design.

Management could get out there at any moment to get some heat off from the talents. They could admit that some mistakes were made and that they are working hard on creating a safe space for their talents and preventing the Doki situation from happening again. They wouldn't even need to do anything, just make vague promises about changing things. But they won't do that because they already chose their strategy: let the talents take the fall.

If you really want the best for your oshi, pray that they can get out of this company as soon as possible. Because it doesn't matter how much you hate Doki, Anycolor are the ones who stabbed NijiEN in the back and are constantly twisting the knife.

>> No.75222589

>>75221008
because your tiny brain thinks ccv when the video is live what brings the money ? lmao retard, there is advertisements in vod, you cant put ads in a video when you are still livestreaming said video.

>> No.75222614

>>75222512
TLDR https://youtu.be/OnYwHyAtV3A

>> No.75222647

Nijisanji is actually watching application videos right now btw

>> No.75222694

>>75222589
>you cant put ads in a video when you are still livestreaming said video.
Yes you can, it's just that most vtubers set ad insertion to manual instead of automatic.

>> No.75222754

>>75214159
Heaven has always been her name for it dumbass
When she graduated as mint she said "I'm going to heaven"
She's just kept up that nickname when she wants to talk about that time period because her entire kayfabe is being a ghost
Watch streams for once

>> No.75222780

>>75222647
Good luck to the new hires then. They'll get help from the other livers if not the fans or the company.

>> No.75222864

>>75222512
why should i be angry at the nijisanji management for not letting a crazy menhera woman dictates what is right and wrong about staging her fans to reupload an illegal music video that has not been granted permissions from retired livers to be included in, recording vox without his permission, wasting her own money on projects and then blames it on nijisanji for her poverty situation when she cant afford food. the livers can cancel the chat restriction any time, if vanta can, why cant the others do it ? hes already grown around 6-8k subs since selen got terminated. i dont buy it that management is the one making decisions to put up chat restrictions.

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>>75222589
I didn't mention money. I called you out for suddenly pretending like VOD views are the most important metric after realizing you can't excuse the ridiculous big hit that the organs' CVV has taken
> you cant put ads in a video when you are still livestreaming said video.
...Yes, you can. You don't even know that? Let me guess, you use an adblock when you are watching your oshi, right?

>> No.75222929
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>>75222780
Yeah... help from the other livers... Just like the ones who "supported" Selen and Zaion.

It's scum all the way down. Anyone desperate or blind enough to still apply likely deserves whatever it is they get.

>> No.75222988

>>75222647
Is that so? Big if true. The sweatshop must endure to serve the will of Manjisanji, after all.

>> No.75223006

>>75222589
>you cant put ads in a video when you are still livestreaming said video.
holy shit the sister just outed herself as not even supporting the channels. Why am I not surprised?
>>75222864
How many crazy menheras need to complain about the company being shit before it gets through your skull? 60? 70? I've seen local mcdonalds with a lower turnover rate than Nijisanji.

>> No.75223088

>>75222929
They get help (or rather "support") until they're deemed problematic and then they get thrown aside. But hey, that's still more help than the others will give. Anycolor doesn't care unless you're a 5 view and the niji brand is radioactive to fans, a recipe for dependence and disaster.

>> No.75223120

>>75222864
>doki doki doki doki
Again, you can pretend that Doki is the devil, but Nijisanji are the ones using the organs as meat shields.
>the livers can cancel the chat restriction any time, if vanta can, why cant the others do it ?
Because they can't talk about the drama or even defend themselves, so unlocking the chats mean opening the flood gates for everyone to call them out for throwing Selen under the bus. I'm sure you understand that there's a huge difference between Vanta (someone completely unrelated to the drama) and Elira or Vox.
>i dont buy it that management is the one making decisions to put up chat restrictions.
I'll bite, why? Just a hunch? After all the shit that we know management forces the talents to do?

>> No.75223192

>>75215946
>him
Bro really believe a niji mod is not gonna be a sister
I actually got banned for "using VPN" for 2 months because I shit on Niji in here. Anđ if you see this janny, my ban are over fuck off.

>> No.75223254

>>75222864
This post is a perfect example of why you can't reason with the sisters. They literally can't acknowledge that management is actively harming the organs, and will try to move the goal in any way they can to blame Doki for everything. They are beyond help.

>> No.75223540 [DELETED] 

>>75222864
>pretending like VOD views matter because of the ad revenue
>...while using adblock
LMAO
I can just see a group of sisters refreshing the vods again and again to increase the views count while every single one of them using fucking adblock

>> No.75223549

Uh oh
Nijisanji admitted to botting
>Summary: ROF-MAO, Nijisanji's 4 member-group, appeared on NHK radio show last week as guests and in a segment where audience called the show to ask for advice, Fuwa Minato suggested to "buy followers" because the teenager was worried having few followers on social media would be seen as having few friends.
>Archive (will be deleted in a week)
>https://www.nhk.or.jp/radio/player/ondemand.html?p=9093_01_3988653

>> No.75223601

>>75222589
>pretending like VOD views matter because of the ad revenue
>...while using adblock
LMAO
I can just see a group of sisters refreshing the vods again and again to increase the views count while every single one of them using fucking adblock

>> No.75223617

>>75220036
No, until Doki and Mint collab.

>> No.75223669

>>75223549
kek

>> No.75223698

>>75218392
Can't believe this rat is one of the biggest vtubers in Oldschool content creation. a reddit pvm boy who never sets foot in the wildy.
He is definitely not endorsed by the West Varrock streets. If I ever caught this smelly goblin north of the ditch I would dds his throat out and leave him floating in the Lum.

>> No.75223701

>>75222864
retarded 39iq nijisister can't stop bootlicking.

>> No.75223711

>>75212241
The nijijanny is the most blatant of the bunch I have no idea how the hell you managed to miss it. Not active during USA hours but during EU and SEA hours threads get culled like crazy and you get tempbans for even using the term SEA in any negative post.

>> No.75223755

>>75223549
holy GRIM
Hopefully somebody's saving this archive, right?

>> No.75223761

>>75223549
Number of surprised people: 0
Its already well known

>> No.75223797

>>75223549
>-Loren Irous, another JP liver, once accidently showed ads for purchasing subscribers while streaming. He denied purchasing subscribers in later stream.
IS THIS REAL????

>> No.75223842

>>75217897
FUCK NO!
SHE BELONGS TO THE FISHMAN!
>Unironically tho, she could not take the idol expectations of holo, she's too open. Phase is exactly her cup of coffee. Hell, I'm pretty sure they give therapy and we all know she needs it.

>> No.75223894

>>75223797
Yeah, that one's real. I lost the picture because lord knows I can't fucking tell all of the niji members apart and I forgot who it was who had them.

>> No.75224051

>>75223711
There are few more exhilarating responses to a post than a ban for "racism" for posting scientific data and empirical statistics.

>> No.75224065

>>75219030
>fucks around
>finds out
get fucked

>> No.75224090

>>75224051
Despite spending only 14% of the superchats as hololive fans, nijisisters...

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>>75222694
oh my bad then, i rarely watch livestream longer than three to five minutes. im good as long as it passes 30 seconds, thats a view for the livers.
>>75222914
funny you mention niji en's ccv going down and used a haachama gif to mock me for not supporting the livers by using addblock, when her stream with hoshikawa got mogged by shu and vox playing a way out both in ccv and vod views.
>>75223006
but selen is a bully herself, she always talks bad about finana and reimu's apex skills. rages at elira when she keeps on dying, causing an awkward vibe for the stream. she is a mentally unstable woman, but like gundou, both was monumental for nijisanji's growth and i have alot more respect for them than notmika and notmysta.
>>75223120
vox seems really unbothered by the hate comments, he has a few dragoons on his vod comments section just talking bad things about him for unjustified reasons. i dont think nijisanji's management is that petty to tell livers to restrict chat interactions, they are all about accelerate and growth. interactions with fans are an important factor for both of these goals.

>> No.75224420

>>75224360
Why are you botting? >>75223549

>> No.75224480

Doki, Mint, Sayu and Michi collab on the week NijiEN announces merge with JP. 2024 dattebayo

>> No.75224501

>>75224360
>i rarely watch livestream longer than three to five minutes
KEK well I guess that explains why niji ccv is so low: not even nijifaggots like you watch them anymore. At least you're honest about it.

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>>75224360
>funny you mention niji en's ccv going down and used a haachama gif to mock me for not supporting the livers by using addblock, when her stream with hoshikawa got mogged by shu and vox playing a way out both in ccv and vod views.
>but what about hololive
>not even denying the adblock accusations
>comparing the VOD views of an almost 4 hours long stream to another one that barely reaches 1 hour
Just stop it sister, it's just sad at this point

>> No.75224505

>>75213311
exid and yumenographia already exposed this shit years ago but people just turned a blind eye
even mikas niji tax scam is just a rehash of riksa talking about how the revenue he got left after the cuts was still pocketed by niji as some kind of fee

>> No.75224566

>>75212015
it's actually crazy how every ex-niji appears to be completely traumatized and almost PTSD-like. why are people defending this company? i get it if you like some of the talents, but why are you defending the company itself? it just blows my mind

>> No.75224568

>>75224360
Capitalize your damned sentences you mutant subhuman

>> No.75224672

>>75224420
uhh, but thats niji jp's issues and not shu or vox's telling people to go buy fake followers ? kek, i cant believe minato would say that with evil intentions. dont take what he says at face values, he is probably trying to cheer up that depressed fan who has little amount of followers on twitter. a hololive talent like suisei would have told that fan to give up instead on his/her dream.

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>>75224360
>trash talking in video games is the same as actively rugpulling a project you spent over a year and 15000 USD on, or flat out telling you that you will get NO sponsorships in 2024, and that all of your dream sponsorships instead get given to your retarded branchmates who have NO connection whatsoever to the product and whose audiences flat out don't use them.

Also if vox is really unbothered, why not remove it? Sayu and Doki never had those kinds of restrictions and they had WAY worse antis to deal with from the obsessive, batshit sisters. Sounds like a serious skill issue.

>> No.75224701

>>75224360
>mfw not even Nijifags watch their Nijifag stream

>> No.75224754

>>75224360
>oh my bad then, i rarely watch livestream longer than three to five minutes. im good as long as it passes 30 seconds, thats a view for the livers.
...Why? If you don't watch streams, what the fuck are you supporting them for? That's their entire job and you... don't support or consume it? What the fuck are they to you, then?
...Is this why you're pushing the "vod views" shit so hard? Because you're trying to manually pad their view counts?

>> No.75224819

>>75224360
>vox seems really unbothered by the hate comments
Are you really comparing the live chat with the fucking youtube comments?

>he has a few dragoons on his vod comments section just talking bad things about him for unjustified reasons
Even if (and this is a big IF) they are dragoons... in what world are they unjustified reasons? Vox threw their oshi under the bus, refused to elaborated further, hid in the basement for a couple of months and came back with the chat restricted. Dragoons have a lot of good reasons to be mad at him.

>i dont think nijisanji's management is that petty to tell livers to restrict chat interactions
How is that petty? What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, locking the chat is the ONLY good thing they have done for the talents.

>they are all about accelerate and growth. interactions with fans are an important factor for both of these goals.
...Sister, what interactions? The only remaining nijifans are the ones who don't mind the talents being involved in bullying and harassing accusations. There's no growth. There are no new viewers. There's no acceleration. The problematic talents have hit a dead end. Their career is over and their reputation ruined forever. Nijisanji put them in this mess.

>> No.75224822

>>75224503
but you holokeks were laughing at luca's detroit become human pt 2 getting mogged by iofi and kaela in ccv, why cant i bring holojp and en if you holokeks can ?

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>>75224822
Because CCV and VOD views are totally different metrics, you stupid retard. Fuck, how are you sisters so bad at this?

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>>75224822
>but you holokeks were laughing at luca's detroit become human pt 2 getting mogged by iofi and kaela in ccv, why cant i bring holojp and en if you holokeks can ?
Because you're retarded and they're not currently embroiled in a controversy that nearly killed a woman.
Also they're not who Luca's competing with. People like Fauna are.

>> No.75224982

>>75224360
>oh my bad then, i rarely watch livestream longer than three to five minutes. im good as long as it passes 30 seconds, thats a view for the livers.
HAHAHAHAHA
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>doesn't watch streams
>uses adblock
>tries to artificially increase the VOD views
jesus fucking christ kek

>> No.75225018

>>75224822
I don't think you quite understand the situation here. This isn't a "lol GO METS LETS GO METS FUCK YOU DODGERS"
Luca's coworker nearly fucking died, and Sayu's career was decimated and it's a miracle she's still alive after the bullshit Riku, Hex, and Kotoka put her through, and they tried the exact same thing to Doki and expected it to work twice. This is well beyond console wars.

The metrics in a vacuum don't fucking matter and are just a symptom of how people are fucking done with your company after their utterly disgusting actions over the past year.

>> No.75225036

>>75224360
> when her stream with hoshikawa got mogged by shu and vox playing a way out both in ccv and vod views.
...Sister... their peak CVV was not different... and even if it was... wouldn't that mean that people don't want to watch fucking Hoshikawa? Are you really going for a NIJI VS NIJI angle here? Are you fucking retarded?

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>>75225036
didn't realize holojp had 3views

>> No.75225225

>>75225161
Honestly surprised she even got 800 japanese people to watch fucking harry potter in 2024.

>> No.75225255

>>75225161
>cherry picking the HP movie streams
lmao

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I want every sister here to post tits

>> No.75225399

>>75225161
>2 streams out of 10
>movie watchalongs
>the hoshikawa collab CCV wasn't that much better than her usual numbers
Yeah, you are fucking retarded.

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>>75225161
Sister, one of your daisenpai is a literal 2view.
He doesn't even HAVE 3D despite being in the company for how many fucking years?

>> No.75225573

>>75225400
and yet hajime is still not an ungrateful fuck like selen, notmika and notmysta trying to stab riku in the back despite them profiting alot more from his corpo. maybe being a professional and not a retarded menhera crybaby is actually morally right ? and blaming your coworkers for your own mental issues and tying the rope on your neck with your own hands is retarded ? gee, i wonder why hajime is happy with nijisanji despite being a 2view.

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>>75225573
>ungrateful
...For what? Gratitude for being chewed up over 3 years and released back into the wild completely broken and barely able to function due to crippling self doubt?
That company doesn't deserve any gratitude. It deserves extermination.

You need to EARN gratitude and respect. It's not given by default just because you pretend to have money.

>> No.75225745

>>75225573
>bUt WhAt AbOuT sElEn
Sister, you are pathetic.
>gee, i wonder why hajime is happy with nijisanji despite being a 2view.
>hajime is still not an ungrateful fuck like selen, notmika and notmysta
So... everyone who has graduated is an ungrateful fuck? What about Nina, Pomu and Kyo? And ungrateful for what, exactly?

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>>75225573
You can talk about professionalism when you recover from your mental breakdown

>> No.75225825

>>75225573
Hajime is happy because he still receives support from the company despite being a 2view.
Compare that to EN livers who've brought in tons more money and viewers than him, but only received a fraction of support from the company.

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>>75225573

>> No.75225996

>>75212015
damn

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>>75225573
>Management is using the organs as human shields
>but what about selen
>NijiEN is a toxic work environment and no one is safe
>but what about selen
>The sane nijifans have turned their back on the branch because they don't want to keep supporting alleged bullies
>but what about selen
>Even the most fucking crazy chinese sisters have started abandoning vox
>but what about selen
>All the ex-nijis have found happiness after getting out of the company
>but what about selen

>> No.75226827

>Sisters running away after getting BTFO
As usual. Why don't you try spending your energy for once actually supporting your oshis instead of defending a faceless corpo? Because shit like this...

>>75224360
>oh my bad then, i rarely watch livestream longer than three to five minutes. im good as long as it passes 30 seconds, thats a view for the livers.

...it's just embarrassing

>> No.75227397

>>75213677
>nijinigger pretending to be a Mint fan so he can sustain his Doki derangement syndrome
lol

>> No.75227889

>>75219566
Doppio rescue arc when? She needs all her kids in the divorce.

>> No.75227906

>>75212015
>on my own name
99% of those subs are from people that discovered her in niji, that's the opposite of your own name.

>> No.75228043

>>75227906
No, that's entirely her own name.
The Niji name doesn't mean jack shit when her and selen built that brand.
Hell, the niji name is flat out a debuff now in the west. Only the uninformed and truly psychotic still support that barbaric institution.

>> No.75228143

>>75228043
Technically is her own name, I'm speaking that the audience was build under niji. The only western big indie that grew by themselves is Fillian, the rest are a bunch of leeches or ex-corpo

>> No.75228173

>>75227906
>Built up Niji EN with her thicc anchor arms
>Returned to building herself up
>Meanwhile the Niji runts are drowning

>> No.75228193

>>75228143
Hard to really say that when most of the founding members of vshojo were big on their own.
I guess it really depends what your cut-off for "big" is.

>> No.75228328

>>75228143
Are you really corpo if the corpo does dickall other than take your money and cling to your leg like a rabid chlamydia ridden koala? Pomu lifted Niji EN up. Niji didn't lift Pomu.

>> No.75228408

>>75214605
>Doki Anti
>literally incoherent ESL seething
Every time

>> No.75228773

>>75228328
The most important thing about a corpo is it's name, support and other shit comes after. That's why Universal music still has so many singers under it even though it's dogshit, it's the most popular one and the one that people recognize.

>> No.75228968

>>75212493
Wait, why was Ennaschizo in the Kiara thread? I thought he only posted in /nijien/ and the catalog?

>> No.75229067

>>75226094
yeah, this. one person riding out a toxic environment isn't meaningful, it just means they've found a way to survive and people doing this with stuff they shouldn't is something I've seen dozens of times, almost always with people being afraid to leave crappy jobs. Vtubers aren't different from normal people in this respect.

for example a business put my friend almost to the store manager position in under a year, took him incredibly seriously when no other business had, so he's really loyal. but it's bare bones, their business model is to use as few people as possible and put them into unreasonably stressful situations, he's just good at it and doesn't complain. should he actually keep being loyal? the true adult answer is no.

>> No.75229954

>>75218392
Why can’t a Holo girl play OSRS so I can shower them with mils FUCK

>> No.75230682

>>75228773
I don't give a shit under what label a certain musician is signed up under to enjoy his/her music. No one does

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>>75212015
It's not an accusation at this point, it's just a fact.

>> No.75231229

>>75223698
>no wildy, pvm only
i dont play runescape enough to justify losing all my shit to some poopsocker who knows gay shit about tickrates and minmaxing, im just here to do a quest

>> No.75231556

>>75212015
>200k isn't the biggest, but being able to do it on my own name is what makes it feel the best. Thank you everyone!!!
Slaying all Hololive and vshojo rumours.
But then, what is it she is waiting on answers for happening this fall that is ending the podcast and maybe Mint too?

>> No.75232326

>>75231556
>on my own name
It only slays Hololive rrats. You still get to use your own name and keep your IP if you join VShojo.

>> No.75233229

>>75230682
I'm talking about reach retard, if they aren't under a popular company their song won't even had reached you, the same with vtubers, and anything to say the truth, no matter how good you are exposure is what matters.

>> No.75233771

>>75233229
Exposure is easier than ever with Spotify and Youtube recommendations, grandpa

>> No.75233950

>>75212015
This is all thanks to the termination of dokibird.

>> No.75233978

>>75231556
>But then, what is it she is waiting on answers for happening this fall that is ending the podcast and maybe Mint too?
Starting her own vtuber corp under VShojo, possibly with Matara. In contrast to VShojo's culture, her corp will be entirely idol culture and fully embrace cute girls. Fully uniting unicorns and normalfags under a single banner.

>> No.75234341

>>75233771
Make a music and publish it on youtube then, you need to have a huge luck with the algorithm or make a meme song that zoomers like. With companies it isn't hits all the time but even the low performing ones are bigger than most self published ones.
>just make a good one that people eventually will notice
The world doesn't work like that.

>> No.75234502

>>75224051
>/pol/ graphmonkey on a livestreaming anime girl board
Deserved

>> No.75234572

Doki, Mint, Sayu and Michi collab the week NijiEN mergers with JP. 2024 dattebayo

>> No.75237816

>>75212015
say it with me
NIJISANJI BLACK COMPANY

>> No.75237849

>>75218807
KEK

>> No.75238604

>>75212241
Don't forget vshojo's janny as well

>> No.75238795

>>75213483
picrel selen is giving doki some massive dome

>> No.75238819

>>75238604
If there really is one I wish he'd clean up vsj+ a bit more often.

>> No.75238900

>>75238604
god I wish we had one.
instead there's only one schizo janny sniping our new bakes for no reason

>> No.75238952

>>75215756
not only the niji generals, /lig/ is turning into a nyfco-lite these days

>> No.75241481

>>75213677
No, it's about niji being black. Mint was evidence A. Doki is evidence B. Jesus you would be terrible in jury duty. Just screeching and calling the victim fat as they took the stand.

>> No.75241850

>>75219124
Pomu and Selen were successful while in Nijisanji. The only successful nijis left are in the clique (no reason to leave).

>> No.75241989

>>75238604
He's not doing a good job considering the bait threads i've seen recently.

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>>75222512
>The talents can't even defend themselves because Nijisanji doesn't let them.
To be honest, this is the main reason I hope more of them graduate soon.
I WANT to hear what they have to say for themselves. I WANT to know if any of them are innocent enough for me to morally justify supporting them again. Most of all, I want some fucking answers.
It's frustrating. I'd like to forgive them, but none of them have given me a reason to. I can't even know if that's only because they aren't allowed, or because that reason doesn't exist at all.

>> No.75243981

>>75218764
I'm happy that she's doing well on her own, but honestly, I just don't get Mint's appeal. She's sweet, but I feel like I'm too old to appreciate her weirder side.

>> No.75244609

>>75217337
Are sisters the jews of the vtubing world?

>> No.75245079

>>75243981
Her power level is unironically too high for you. It's not an age thing, you just aren't passionate enough about the things you enjoy to relate to someone who can turn their hobbies into their reason for living.

>> No.75245134

>>75245079
It might be. I have my own passions, I just find hers to be weird.

>> No.75245248

>>75217265
Those 700k doki has are from dramafags that don't even watch her anymore. The 200k Mint has are from people that subbed because they actually liked her content. Doki has became irrelevant now that drama dried up and everyone moved onto that MSM or whatever it is thing.

>> No.75245364

>>75245248
But those were the same numbers she had when she was in niji, and Mint, just like Doki, is reclining and only gets big exposure from the vshojo whores

>> No.75245553

>>75222864
>an illegal music video
We're not talking about Taylor Made though.

>> No.75245713

>>75225573
Sister, I already shit on you for bringing up Hajiki in another thread like two weeks ago.

He doxxes people. It's not about gratefulness: people only associate with him out of an obligation and even then that obligation has faded into not actually being one over the years. You could say he's grateful to Nijisanji in the sense that he can still get into Nijisanji events, because if he went on his own he'd be as toxic to people's brands as Yue-- I mean, Sio.

Don't talk about JP vtubers if you don't know jack shit about them, and kill yourself post-haste.

>> No.75245912

>>75245364
>>75245364
>t. coping holocucki that his whores are getting mogged by indies

>> No.75246155

>>75245364
>But those were the same numbers she had when she was in niji
Nah, she was a 2k streamer while in Niji, and is a 3-4k streamer now, so a 50% increase.

>> No.75246395

>>75245248
It sucks dude I just wish Selen had graduated normally, she'd probably have the same numbers anyway and keep her friends and the vtuber community wouldnt have been assaulted by drama grifters for two months

>> No.75246540

>>75242740
>It's frustrating. I'd like to forgive them, but none of them have given me a reason to. I can't even know if that's only because they aren't allowed, or because that reason doesn't exist at all.
That's precisely the thing. When Nijisanji chose to do the black frame stream and dragged the drama into the public ring, what they really did was to let the genie out of the bottle. And it's not going back inside. Elira, Vox and Ike asked their fans to take things at face value, while they tried to smear Doki's reputation and shared cherry picked private screenshots of her conversations with her manager. It's no longer a private matter between Doki and her ex-coworkers, now the fans are involved too. And, as you said:
>Most of all, I want some fucking answers.

Instead, what we got was Ike going back to streaming as usual, Enna and Millie acting passive aggressive as fuck and Elira and Vox going into hiding for a couple of months and then coming back and pretending that nothing happened. Let's not forget either all the stuff about Aster and Luca and management just trying to sweep any kind of drama under the rug (and failing).

So, you have AT LEAST 7 organs who have been involved in some way in harassment, bullying or even sexual harassment (Elira, Vox, Ike, Millie, Enna, Aster and Luca). Then the 3 ones who less than a year before threw Zaion under the bus and did fucking nothing when their actions resulted in a doxxing and harassment campaign (Finana, Kotoka, Hex). And finally, you can round everything up with all the organs who decided to comment, support and retweet the black frame stream.

It's no wonder that Nijisanji's reputation has fallen off a cliff in the west. No one is taking any responsibility for all the harm caused to the former organs. Instead, what they are doing is pretending like nothing happened, as if the actions of management and the current livers didn't almost cause the death of 2 people.

Vtubing is based on support and trust. Nijisanji can try to love bomb their organs all they want with scuffed concerts and 3D debuts, but it won't work. Why? Because no one wants to support fucking terrible people, and that's the current public image of NijiEN: a place full of bullies who cover each other. And that won't change until someone decides to talk.

>> No.75247223

>>75225573
I want the doxsite back so I don't have to read your absolutely retarded posts.

>> No.75247930

>>75218086
Elira has lost over 13 months of channel growth since the black stream. Even if she doesn’t get graduated and NijiEN doesn’t collapse, she’s going to spend the rest of her career, trying to rebuild back to 600k.

>> No.75247983

>>75246395
Fuck off nijinigger

>> No.75248010

>>75247930
I still have no idea what they were intending with that stream. It made no fucking sense except as a self-own.

>> No.75248243

>>75238819
that's on you fags for making schizos/tourists feel welcome, I swear I've seen more unrelated fleshfag ""discussion"" than some of the girls when I stopped lurking there.

>> No.75248502

>>75248010
Whatever they had in mind falls short to the cartoon villain henchman levels of stupidity on display, where they managed to negate all the effects of the CEO response which was good compared to whatever they did before.

>> No.75248518

>>75233978
Now that's delusional
>>75232326
What this guy said is true though. Especially since last stream she started talking about how she'd be open to being in a group again.

>> No.75248546

>>75248010
and what's funny/worse: it was scripted, so that black stream, even with the fuckups they let slip through and had to trip themselves over with contradictions with their own CEO was the best version of whatever they were planning to do in the first place.

>> No.75248959

>>75212015
I notice it's only the girls who developed self esteem issues from niji. Every single one. Except Yugo

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>>75248010
My best guess is that they were afraid that Selen would choose to go the Zaion route and release a manifesto telling everything what she saw during her time as a liver. They didn't believe her when she said that she wanted to move on, so they tried to get ahead of the story and put the public on their side using the organs as mouthpieces:

>We were just trying to help Selen
>She was unreasonable and misleading
>She accused some of our talents of receiving favoritism and even went as far as recording them without their consent
>We thought that she was being unfair and that she was hurting the company and our family, so we were upset with her and we let her know
>We don't consider that a form of harassment
>We were worried that she could go as far as doxxing us

If the public believed that Selen was an unreliable menhera that just wanted to hurt her former friends, then she would lose her credibility. What they did was obviously retarded, killed the branch and ruined the reputation of all the talents involved in that shitshow, but at the time they must have thought that attacking first was their best move. Just think about all the shit that Luca's girlfriend managed to dig up, and now imagine all the stuff that Selen must know of literally everyone.

Doki is not the kind of person to do that kind fo shit, but Nijisanji couldn't trust her because they ARE the kind of people to do that kind of shit.

>> No.75249076

>>75212241
Nijijanny exists, the only show up when they're not jerking off or eating pagpag tho.

>> No.75249108

>>75248959
Manjisanji is real

>> No.75249304

>>75248959
mysta though he was arguably menhera beforehand as well

>> No.75249549

>>75249304
Mysta has a lot of issues but self esteem seem problems are probably unlikely for anyone coming out of luxiem

>> No.75254388

>>75246155
When doki used to play shitty games, she'd get 1-1.5k ccv. when she played popular games, she used to get somewhere inside 3-5k ccv. Collabs usually had her with the highest ccv in the group. I'd say shes doing a bit better now. She even brought a bunch of the niji paypigs with her.

>> No.75254405

>>75233771
If it's easier than ever then why does the majority of covers die under 100k and under 500k then? It just can't break out for the most of them. It's so painful knowing all the money and time they put into it and it just dies in the womb.

>> No.75254669

>>75248010
>Reviewed and approved by staff and company lawyers
They wanted a trip to Riku's Yacht all expenses paid. It took Elira two months until she was too reamed out to keep around.

>> No.75254747

>>75212015
I like her simply for the idea that Indies can make good content and survive without corpos. Hope to see more like her in the future.

>> No.75257425

>>75248010
Same thing they did by having Hex, Meloco, and Kotoka make their "fuck zaion she was disruptive and evil" videos. Only this time people called their shit.

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