/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75149077
NijiEN is likely to not even be a career option in 2025.

>>75149077
Anon a talent didnt have money for food this week

>>75149473
yeah, why isnt yagoo giving miyabi a decent salary ?

>>75149077
>Niji EN is dead
Fixed it for you faggot

>>75150296
Thats just her girl dinner shell be fine.

Cool thread, bud!

>>75151966
uh... sister? Are you sure you want to use Rosemi of all people for that?

>>75152064

So what happens next?

Now that Reimu's 3D debut is finished, the only upcoming events which had been announced before the end of Q4, but which have not yet happened, are the Anime Impulse show in Seattle on the 18/19th, the original KPOP song for Sonny and Shu, and the still-to-be-announced fourth of four anniversary events (which may or may not coincide with the anniversary itself on the 16th)
Kotoka is still MIA, has been for over a month, and in all likelihood will be "graduated" or terminated soon. And we are slightly less than 4 hours away from exactly 90 days to the minute since Selen was terminated.
The other 30 members are in varying degrees of Maintenance Mode, ranging from Scarle's multiple waiting rooms at one extreme to Petra's complete radio silence at the other extreme. Vox and Elira have moved to Bilibili, a move which may or may not have been voluntary.
Apart from the aforementioned Seattle show and anniversary events, nothing noteworthy has been announced as being in the pipeline for May. The Q4 report will be published in June, likely on June 14th - Judgement Day, essentially.

Sayu just got 100k subs on Youtube. Mint is close to 200k, and Doki is close to 700k. The three of them are still steadily growing.
Meanwhile, all the Niji EN talents are gradually losing subs. Their concurrent viewer counts and superchat revenue are also trending downwards.
Niji stock had a small dead cat bounce during Golden Week, which had already started trending back downwards before the markets closed for the long weekend.

Vivi had a mental break on a members only stream a few days ago, and has privated that vod. She was the first to break on stream over the past 3 months; hopefully no one else suffers a mental breakdown, publicly or privately, before they're finally allowed to leave.

>>75153445
One additional thing is that Luxiem and Noctyx have not recorded their 3D debuts yet, so investors won't be going into the meeting seeing big numbers for things that would fall into Q1. Shit's going to be so dark for EN come June 14th.

>>75153445
Well, we're locked in for Q4. Anything that happens now is Q1 territory. I'm really curious why the fuck they didn't cut the line for Luxiem 3D, and have Reimu as part of Q4 instead of Q1. Either they're willing to eat the loss coming up, or they're expecting to jump ship.

>So what happens next?
Cooking the books is what happens next. Not cooking as in out and out illegal - cooking as in
massaging the figures into a more agreeable state. As much as I would like Aia/Aster/TTT 3d next just to keep the roll of ever reducing 3d debut viewership going, they wouldn't keep humiliating themselves and will probably be on hold until towards the end of the quarter

>>75153445
>>75153851

That's what odd to me honestly, I've been reviewing/analyzing the stock on /news/ for a good month now. The weekly trend has been downhill since late march and only now have they ended on a positive note (thanks to a short week.)
Does NijiJP not have anything happening this month? I have to think Anycolor has to have something in their deck of cards to help their situation in the short term if Riku wants to do a pump and dump. Can't do Stock Buybacks till September I believe, did they perhaps move everything up to the Q4 to try and save the fiscal year? If they did, that's quite the gamble to leave their first month rather barren preventing it from softening a potential blow.

So who had the worst 3D debut overall? I'm still shocked that Petra did better than Rosemi considering HoloFes was literally an hour after Petra's, and Rosemi usually has more CCV in normal streams.

>>75155902
Reimu is currently the worst in both CCV and Superchats.

>>75155902
Ironically, holofes might have actually boosted Petra since people kept building it up, so she might've been boosted by japanese saviorfags (because there was virtually no english interactions and the stream was mostly japanese...), on top of being the first 3D since lazulight.

By far the worst one was Reimu, though, then Millie, then Rosemi. Then Enna, then Petra. Petra was head and shoulders above the other runts, though. We thought Petra was grim, but it only got worse from there.

This is only by viewership, though. By superchats, it's Rosemi, then Reimu, then a massive gap, then the rest. Makes sense since Rosemi had the biggest viewership overlap with selen/pomu and her audience was almost entirely western.

>>75155902
In hindsight we shouldn't of been surprised. EN superchats have completely dried up for everyone. Petra maintained her SC because she's been pandering to JP for an eternity now. General trend from what we've seen is CAD, EUD, AUD, USD has evaporated from NijiEN superchats or at least well down in the rankings and it's TWD, JPY usually moving up to the top 1-2 with USD coming in 3rd.

>>75155751
Rofmao just got their own concert and NijiFes 2025 is already in the works

NijiJP will be fine. Even if the comeback will be slow, the JPs are still growing strong as long as their golden boys are still active. At some point giving up EN will be actually negligble to father Riku and the company

>>75156192
I honestly think Millie in relation to her status and prominence in NijiEN is the biggest flop. Let's face it Reimu is a literal who? in the NijiEN hierarchy. Millie is probably 3rd in line to being in the face of the females of NijiEN

>>75156192
Rosemi's earning have never been all that. In just SCs alone, both Pomu and Selen eclipse her. Plus she seems to have good will; I'd get a diehard dragoon cutting off NijiEN entirely, but a diehard Pomudachi? Not that sure.
>>75156203
Reap what you sow.

>>75153851
You honestly think shoving all 3 3D debut streams in span of less than 3 weeks will not trigger suspicion and blow up the "they rushed 3Ds for Q4" rrat ?

Also they could just add Reimu 3D revenue to Q4 silently without anyone knowing and it's not like her revenue is massive to create obvious discrepancy anyway

>>75156383
I'm talking about May as a whole. The only event I can find in a short amount of time was a Mario Kart tournament right now.
Sure, NijiJP is "fine" for the most part. But Anycolor is probably looking at that Q4 report like it's the fucking Mayan Calendar. he fact they haven't shown any cards to soften/prevent their doomsday is.... eerie, to say the least.

>>75153665
>Luxiem and Noctyx have not recorded their 3D debuts yet
Do they actually say that or what ? Because I honestly think the golden 20 that participated in the AR live should already have 3D stream plans beforehand, and I expect Luxiem turn will be dropped out of the blue on mid May

>>75156747
They'll just budge numbers, fire a few employees, and cook the books and voila, hit all our Q4 metrics.
>Did accounting for corpos, it's really easy to fake half this shit

>>75150296
he is on a diet and taking care of his health you fucking vile bitch go slit your wrists while playing in the road you nigger

>>75156440
What? Nah, man. The big three of NijiEN girls were always
1 Selen
2 Pomu
3 Elira
If I had to name a 4th it'd be between Nina and Enna; I'd want to give it to Nina because of how hard she leeched from Luxiem, bug I digress. Millie is known as Enna's best friend, not the other way around; Enna is the familiar, Millie is the stranger. She may not be literally who tier like the new girls, Scarle or Aia (yes I'm aware Scarle makes bank), but she is nowhere near as popular as the top 3. She is nowhere near as popular as Enna.

I think Millie did about as well as she could have. The most surprising thing to me is Petra mogging everyone else so much, even if her numbers were low for a 3D debut. I think everyone did around where they should have done in both CCV and SCs; well except maybe Reimu mogging Rosemi in SCs. That's unexpected.

>>75156747
I think you under-estimated the JPs to be honest. EN is definitely going to have a shitty report on Q4, but the JPs have other events of their own and merch for fans to buy. None of the JPs have any significant controverises and let's be real, the japs doesn't give a shit about Selen and EN anyway when she didn't drag any JPs down with her. Plus the Rofmao concert was so successful that you can say it saved JP and Niji as a whole in terms of general report

My prediction of Q4 is that the JP chart will either stay the same or rise up a bit thanks to Rofmao and top organs' popularity like Kuzuha and Kanae, while EN will either have a massive drop of growth or drop a bit from Q3 depending on AR live and Singapore revenue, but still a negative drop nonetheless

>>75157163
>selen
>Pomu
>Nina
Anon, it's May 2024 all those 3 are gone and have been gone for at least 3 months. Everyone else gets moved up because these 3 don't exist effectively.

>>75157182
i saw kuzuha with 66k live watchers on my youtube feed doing a mario kart jp event, unreal numbers. niji jp is an entire entity compared to en branch.

>>75149077
I suspect sisters will be hyped when Luxiem turn comes.
No one cares about Ethyria.

>>75157430
Right, then it's probably
1 Enna
2/3 is a contest between Rosemi, Petra and Elira
She still doesn't break in the top 3 or 4. And she's been hit with the "being in NijiEN past Feb 2024" debuff as well as the "licked NijiEN boots publicly" debuff.
If we ever get to the point where Scarle gets 3D, and NijiEN is somehow still alive, I'd predict her getting maybe 5k CCV max but mogging every girl in SCs.

>>75157464
That's the thing. Anons keep doomposting that Anycolor or entire Nijisanji production will go down when in reality at worst scenario Riku will merge EN to JP like what he did to ID KR. The stocks ? As long as none of the japs create another Roa fiasco or worse, they can try to hold on until September for massive pump, or they can just go private when the stocks are unsalvageable

They still have 100+ JP organs and I think at least 5 of them have the capability of competing with Holo giants like PekoMiko and others. The JPs will live as long as those golden members still live. The real question is how long will EN actually last

>>75157163
If you check rosemi's usual streams superchats you'd realize she barely gets 100 bucks per stream while reimu gains more than enna and reimu on normal streams and millie is the highest on streamlabs.

>>75157603
>Petra
Only NijiEN in name. functionally NijiJP. Can't be the face of NijiEN when your audience is effectively Japanese. May as well throw Kotoka and Meloco in the mix then.
>Rosemi
LOL. Literal definition of mid tier anonymity. No defining attribute, other than omg cute. Every time some adversity come up she folds. Scarle has a better chance

Elira is currently at the top even with all the shit. Then it's Enna. Then it's Millie, no-one else has the personality or resolve to be the frontman. They may be cunts but they at least are consistent cunts

>>75157882
I assume you meant to say that Reimu earns more in SCs than Enna and Millie? I didn't know that; I assumed Reimu's CCV and SC support was low. Good to know.
>>75157971
It doesn't matter what they are, functionally or otherwise. They are officially NijiEN. I think they'd be mogging the rest of the fucking branch badly if they were actually "functionally" considered NijiJP.

Rosemi has relatively low earnings for how long she's been around, I know, but her CCV has always been in the upper tiers. Elira had a lukewarm return stream, and afaik, keeps bleeding subs every time she streams and she actually hit 3view status for the first time in who knows how long. Last time a Rosemi stream popped up in my feed it was at 1.1k

>>75157769
i think if en get merged to jp, they would probably be like hana. still contracted to nijisanji but on a revised contract that allows the liver to stream when they wanted to. im not too knowledgeable with niji jp, but i know kanae, toya and kuzuha can compete with miko and gura on a regular basis. pekora is too strong currently for anyone.

nobody cares about nijisanji en nowadays outside of faggots sisters and dramashitters anon the branch is a rotting cancerous arm that needs to be cut off

>>75158242
Have you not seen Rosemi's CCV over the last few months lol. There's a lot of 3view streams. You've seen 1 stream on your feed and you're going to assume 1.1k is average?

>>75158500
No, not really. Claiming Elira is higher than Enna, when Enna has more subs and has streamed more frequently, seems crazy to me now.
If you've been keeping an eye, elucidate: compared to Jan 2024, how is each girl doing now? A rough estimate.

>>75157603
Funny thing about scarle.
She's absolutely the biggest female earner they have left, but you'd never know because it's ENTIRELY self contained.
She's actually earned more than even Selen by raw superchats despite her modest ccv and subs.

>>75158669
It's the strangest thing. I tuned in once and it was some arts and crafts shit and non-stop yapping and reading SCs in like, not the monotone voice most chuubas do, but reading them like she's repeating something someone in front of her had just said.
I don't get her appeal and I don't know why people are throwing their bank accounts at her, but good for her. She'd probably become the comfiest, wealthiest 3 view if she can get out soon. If she even wants to.

>>75158852
The vast majority of her streams devolve into her pretty much just reading off superchats and having a convo with doners. Some guys just want a hot girl (her L2D model) to listen and respond to what they say, I guess.

>>75159084
Basically what Sayu does, except with more money, I guess.

>>75149077
Literally these 3Ds were rushed out so they can do the debuts for LuxNoc

>>75158634
Elira in currently top for the simple fact she is the leader. You can say whatever you want but the rest of the females march to her tune. The fact that she fronted up on the Black Screen stream and read a statement on behalf of all NijisanjiEN makes her the frontman. Do you understand? It's like Fubuki all the the way through the Coco/West Taiwan/graduation incident. She didn't have the most subs but she fronted up and a was the face HoloJP when dealing with the incident. It's not about pure numbers. Numbers are part of it but not the only component. EG. Vivi can front up all she wants but 100K subs / 1Finana CCV ain't going to get her treated seriously. It's about who has seniority, who fronts up and who has the clout.

>>75149077
>Post Pomu and Selen NijiEN
You're lucky 13k showed up at all
The only humor left is in watching Sayu make up more shit to get drama points, then apologize immediately to the person she lied about

>>75159484
>sayu
>lying
this is a new one. The woman's brutal honesty is the entire reason she's constantly in trouble.

>>75159484
doesn't matter, silver play button baby, DORYAAAAAAAAAA

>>75159602
>Lies about Xsoleil leaving her out to dry
>Lies to Finana about her beef with manager
>Lies to Matara about why she's getting punished
>Lies to fans about art-mama half assing her art commission because she didn't pay up
>apologizes each and every single time
>Lied to her fans about being a divorcee
I'm glad she's out, but i wouldn't trust this skank with a bent penny

>>75159758
Not a single one of those are true.
Especially the divorcee thing. Are you retarded? Her husband was even part of her community as a mod.

>>75149077
>3D debut is usually a sign of a liver / talent moving on to the next chapter of their career
>Valve index price: ~$1500
Do nijifags really earn so little these days that it's a monumental career milestone to earn $1.5k?

>>75159844
>Not a single one of those are true
>BenderLaughingAtLeela.gif

>>75159942
>Lies about Xsoleil leaving her out to dry
They even made individualized hate videos about her, with Finana and Kotoka twisting the knife further.
>Lies to Finana about her beef with manager
This is just Finana being retarded and leaping to pounce on someone already being fucked by the company in her termination to snatch whatever clout she can grab from Zaion's corpse.
>Lies to Matara about why she's getting punished
What the fuck are you even talking about? The last time they had any contact was that comment about her imposter syndrome.
>Lies to fans about art-mama half assing her art commission because she didn't pay up
...What the fuck? I don't even know how your ESL ass twisted this out of some people claiming she had a way to skip the queue. Especially since they talked almost immediately after over it.
>Lied to her fans about being a divorcee
She's never hid this. You're retarded.

So yeah, you're making shit up again because you're pissed she's outperforming the Nijis again.

>>75160061
Nijisisters are flinging more shit than usual because they're mad she's getting her play button kek

>>75149077
But was the debut fun / interesting? I don't care about your numberfag shit.

>>75149077
>Is Niji3D hype dead ?
No but they are way behind.

>>75149077
There's no hype because it feels like there's no future for NijiEN to begin with. No matter how many 3D streams get made, they now look more like a desperate attempt to stay relevant than something genuine for the fans.