/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75041465
We lost some livers along the way, but that's fine, they were all negligible anyway.

Funny thing is they were winning, unironically nijien was becoming more prominent than Holoen because their members were MIA and omega was fucking them over, Myth unity was in an all time low and an off Collab with a nijimale and 2 girls got 1k less views than the so anticipated mythversary that same day where gura's favorite moment was playing with council.

If you thought hana was the biggest retard in vtubing for not accepting 3D , Nijien as a whole takes the fucking crown from here to the Andromeda Galaxy.... The crown is right fucking there and all you had to do was stream.....JUST FUCKING STREAM.... But I guess being a shit person and having a massive ego was better than going forward, had you told me vox was gonna become a crying white monkey for China and nijien would be dead by Holoen's uprising I would have called you a massive retard, but alas

They wanted to talk shit so Hololive debuted a fucking gun.
I told you they would.

>>75041465
The All Out War is in the late stage now. NijiEN developed a nuke and dropped it on themselves. Their proganda broadcasts after that failed miserably.

>>75041570
retard you only got 1 liver, get to the hospital immediately

>>75041465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDIyHhhEI4

>>75041465
To put in in Dynasty warriors terms:
You were so incompetent as a warlord, Zhuge Liang saw how you fucked over Guan Yu and drove the once mighty warrior to almost commit sudoku. Losing all hope he just quit and became a hermit novelist living in the mountains.
Guan Yu decided to become a freelancer because all the love he had for the Shu and all his loyalty was abused. He is living his best life far away from you.
Half your army deserted, Zhang Fei and Ma Chao were almost in financial ruin after entrusting you with their finances, they went to the Wu for a better deal. Guan Ping invited them.
You unjustly tried to kill you Xingcai by framing her and she is working on undermining all you worked for.

All you have left are generic NPCs and that despite the fact that the war hasn't even started yet.

>>75042011
Gun, my beloved.

>>75042011
Gun-chan my beloved. want to put gun-chan in my mouth

>>75043063
>>75043270
Happiness is a warm Gun-chan.

>>75043390

>>75042954
generic npcs and still higher than shibuya hal's botted neo porte in the rankings despite kotoka and petra streaming only 4-5 times since february 5, ill take that. nobody is beating holo en right now, they have full control of the viewership market for en speaking audience.

>>75041465
Mysterio...

Niji is currently astroturfing in /lig/ >>75045168

the most hilarious thing about this image will always be everyone being so positive and excited and then mysta interrupting to say how much he wants to kill himself
feel a little bad for laughing at the guy when he's down but the contrast is just too goddamn perfect

>>75041465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvP-qhjfvsc

All quiet on the Niji front
>>75046096
Now that we know how shitty the company is the irony is that his depression was probably brought on if not worsened by being a Niji liver, he doesn't really talk like that as Kuro

>>75045914
That anon is not wholly wrong. No one has been fired or punished for what Niji did to Doki.
In fact the staff member with the biggest hate boner for her is still gainfully employed. Picrel (they sent Selen's mama AR Live merch of Selen's wavemates)

Also it's a real tweet:
https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123/status/1785616458833330355

>>75046338
>depressed being a niji liver.
sounds like a skill issue and coming from a big crybaby like mysta, its not really a surprise. dont see reimu or hajime being a crybaby, despite having low views.

>>75046763
Having your viewers, subs and earnings completely decimated with no hope of recovery is punishment. Getting blacklisted across the industry is punishment

>>75046763
>like 8 people show up to vReverie
humiliation punishment, it would have been better for them to be paraded around naked and whipped in the street, at least someone might still be interested in them

>>75047400
like dookie being blacklisted from neo porte, vspo and hololive because nijisanji told them to do it for the friendship between the four jp corpos ? kek, no wonder she ran off to pippa to leech.

>PLEASE BE REAL PLEASE BE REAL
>LEAD TO US WAR AGAINST HOLOTRANNIES

>>75049114
holy cope

>>75049248
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>75041465
The fog of war cleared and revealed a greater opponent. It's just getting started.

Imagine being niji on the frong lines
>you have the artillery
>you gain ground
>every step holo takes, you take two
>you have the trenches
>you have waves of meat shields that will throw themselves in the line of fire to "protect" niji
>your own upper command doesn't give orders and let's the foot soldiers deal with the situation
>due to your own incompetence you have deserters, self inflicted casualties, possibly called artillery on your own heads
>allies are depleting
>supplies are running low
>you are now on the retreat as hololive takes your trenches, your guns, your allies

>>75049114
I honestly can't wait until niji's reputation becomes wholly unsalvageable and they lose their fake alliance with hololive. Hololive keeps holding up their end up the bargain while niji is constantly trying to attack them in subtle ways.

>>75046763
Surprising. I guess they still want them to make Elira art.
Hilarious considering they were part of #WhereIsSelen

>>75050680
Ah, Niji is using the Ruzzki strat. kek

>>75052280
SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE

>>75050680
HoloEN didn't take nijiEN's fanbase though, they're fundamentally incompatible besides I guess holostarsEN, which didn't make any real gains. So it's more like they finally got their shit together and built up their own superior infrastructure and army (and removing the traitor omegatroon) during the time nijiEN was self destructing.

>>75052280
*Ukrainian strat*
FIFY

>>75041465
Nijiniggers and pomudachis triying to rewrite history, so just imagine...

>>75041465
How is it even possible to have a screenshot that is that low quality?

>>75050013
Who the fuck drew this? A Korean? Why are the heads so small relative to their bodies? It’s okay on Matara but absolutely heinous on Mint.

>>75046763
Do you expect them to fire themselves, that would mean accepting all the charges and that all the rats are real. The black stream is still up as we speak.

>>75054220
it's from a leak during a livestream from petra's POV. Those VODs are now deleted
https://files.catbox.moe/ktw6sq.mp4

>>75054220
it was <1 second leak anon, try to get a better screenshot if you can.

>>75052760
I've read so many people here saying that they stopped watching hololive in favor of nijisanji.
Most of them probably went to VShojo or indies.

>>75052927
>Cant into greentext
Lel.Boris detected.

>Verification not required.

>>75054995
NAFOkek detected...

>>75049248
they do be like dat...

>>75055214
>>75055214
Хopoшaя paбoтa, тoвapищ!

>>75051815
Niji probably sent that merch to Kama specifically because Kama was part of #WhereIsSelen
That's why they sent Obsydia merch instead of Lazulight merch or even just Elira merch. It was punishment/retaliation, along with Japanese defamation laws preventing Kama from being publicly upset about the obvious insult.

Nijisanji lost the battle but won the war.
And now Matara, Mint and Doki are leaps and bounds ahead of holoEN too

>>75054836
Those people likely never even watched hololive.

>>75055623
So true, sister!
#Cut4Hex

>>75055524

>>75055694
Snifff
Hmmm fresh holoseethe

>>75041465
too much alcohol, too many transplants
organs destroyed themselves

>>75046817
>Being part of the clique and gaining immunity and favoritism, you don't need to worry about numbers
You've got it backwards

>>75055623
>50% price drop in just 3 months
Looks like cover didnt do as well as they expected

>>75055676
I believe it, if you are a western vtuber fan, it's more likely your first introduction to vtubers was hololive.

>>75055816
You didn't cut deep enough. Try again and make sure to take a clearer picture

>>75055623
it's always weird seeing this used as a talking point. How much of the total shares of their company is Cover actually making public?

>>75056051
>le clique
Boy I have a bridge to sell to you

>>75041465
Considering the only people good in that shit corpo are long gone and thriving id say its a win for the fans at least

>>75056302
I don't want that shitty Chinese cement, thanks

>>75056213
/vt/ shitposters aren't exactly a good representation of the average person.

>>75055623
Nijisanji spends their money and time on stocks, hololive spends their money and time on building new studios. let that sink in

>>75045914
/lig/ is basically sisters-lite, really. never seen so much schizoing and outright doxxing on this board

>>75056505
Sister's can't sink any lower

>>75056396
That reminds me I should get the popcorn ready for when mutts are sent to Taiwan to die.
Although it will be kind of sad to travel to America and not see any white person left any more just jeets and africans brought in to keep the economy going.

>>75056505
That 3D studio that has been collecting dust for over a year? Or do you mean the HQ that cover is building in california? That's sure to get use during black history month and pride month KEK
Black history month 3D with FWMC!

>>75056692

>>75056692
They have Mexicans already, wtf are you talking about.

>>75056692
You SEAmonkeys don't seem to understand much

>>75056857
Not a chink but will have fun nonetheless watching PLA kino of mutts being blown up.
That is if there's any of you left after Trump sends you all to Lebanon and Yemen

>>75056969
I'm from SEA so I don't really care about america politics. but i'll be happy to see PLA getting blown up too, they do love fking with other ppl's islands

>>75056692
>Deleted
Kek

>>75050013
Vshojo is a bit of a mismatch here, despite their size and the prestige they have accumulated, I don't see them as a danger to Holo's throne at all.

>>75057266
it's probably they are a nijisister+commiefag, not a surprising combination

>>75057266
Jannies hate it when they're reminded to be cattle
>>75057409
Its this exact "us vs them" black or white worldview that """people""" like you posses that makes me happy to not be a goy

>>75057696
ok nijinig so you wanna keep talking about politics or talk about vtubers? oh wait i forgot you nijinigs love politics, even scarle got harassed for eating starbucks

>>75057878
Love it when you seethe like that

>>75056851
>That 3D studio that has been collecting dust for over a year?
cope sis

>>75057878
>the jannies and this anon jimmie status: rustled
kek

>>75056051
>muh clique rrats.
or maybe its just that reimu and hajime are professional livers and can actually do their vtubing jobs without being a crybaby little bitch like mysta who spend a fuckton of his money on gacha crap and got chased off by his taxes ?

>>75058378
love it when you don't support your talents, even when you tweet out that you will.

>>75050013
why are mint's mints like that

>>75041997
I think all they had to do was retard wrangle Elira, ask her how she was deciding to spend the money for merch and company expenses, and keep an eye on the company.
AKA the managers should have done the managing thing instead of relying on some ditsy bimbo to do it for them because she spoke Japanese. Everything else is a direct result of that.

>>75041465
It's going... gross.

>>75050680
I play Foxhole and this is basically every offensive in the game

>>75059112
sorry they are too busy making them shit out PR statements to hide behind

>>75042028
I don't understand Niji's defense strategy or the sisters. DENY ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED THEY ARE SURE TO FORGET BY NEXT WEEK!

>>75054836
Those people were never important. Drifters that would drop any company that wasn't number 1. Not even a woke thing their brain is just zoomer hard wired on the popularity trend and don't really have an emotion called loyalty but still loud and annoying.

>>75056259
In reality a negligible amount. To the point Yagoo told share holders to fuck off they weren't going to cut their talents pay to indulge in their return dividends.

>frogfaggot

>>75060895
Blind loyalty is how you get fuckers like Riku working Selen to death on his behalf.
Watch and support streamers, not corporations, dipshit. Hololive is the best right now by far in how it supports them, but it could always get even better. Please support the girls for the right reasons and don't just blindly support anyone with a dorito label or else you'll fall into the same tribalistic trap as the sisters.
>>75058915
"professional"
you mean spineless grifters with no ambition who're content with just rotting away because it's easier to mindlessly yap for a few hours a day than to actually work at making content your fans would enjoy.

Supreme leader begging for his life.

>>75061557
>hands behind his back instead of to the side
>not even a full 90 degree bend
>weak technique, Elira does it better
2/10, would not donate to yacht funds

>>75061508
better to have grifters and loyalists, than retarded rule breakers like zaion, gundou and selen who damages the company's reputation with their so called "ambitions" when in reality it was all for their own clout and personal gains, in exchange for nijisanji's good image.

>>75059169
no fucking way this happened.
tell me this isn't real...

>>75062228
>good image
>can't even handle perms

>>75062566
Well, they said good image. No one said anything about the sound.

>>75062677
>Fucks up something
>Shifts goalpost
niji thriving

>>75058568
This is really all you need to do to put Holo EN vs. Nijisanji EN arguments to death

>>75062566
getting permission is pretty hard, especially for a big corpo like nijisanji when a copyright strike can cripple you. some niji livers, like the terminated one always keeps pushing management team with permissions and crap, it definitely rubbed off the management the wrong way if you keep shoving your ideals into their face.

>>75062228
>>75062677
Image isn't doing so hot, either.
I thought perms were supposed to prevent this?

>>75062677
>good image

>>75041465
this is genuinely the sole reason I have never liked pomu
people always try to make out like pomu is hololive material and she's the most wholesome and "idol-like" etc
"feels like an all out war right now lol" is just so flippant and disrespectful to other people who are trying to be vtubers and do the same idol-like whatever you're apparently trying to do
and of course it goes without saying that this is all one-sided and the people they're talking about have never said these sorts of these things about them; every time a discord leak happens on the holo side there's nothing like this "niji tech issues in shambles" they just stick to their activities

>>75062725
>>75063250
>>75063328
I don't know. I was just making a stupid jork.

>>75054488
>that would mean accepting all the charges and that all the rats are real.
They'd rather pretend that they aren't guilty than improve themselves. The company is incorrigible.

>>75063985
sorry bro, nijisisters have been infesting the board for the last couple of weeks and it's hard to tell what is a joke and what is actual nijisister statements

>>75056259
>>75060985
it's so weird seeing sisters who unironically oshi the company and try to use its stock prices as evidence of anything. like yeah anykuro stock is worth more than cover's, the reason for that is that their ceo only cares about increasing his own wealth to the detriment of their talents

>>75063985
Nah, we got it, anon. I was trying to follow up.
>>75062725
The sister somehow didn't, though.

>>75063362
>nijien announces male auditions
>8hrs later holo announces male auditions
>"feels like an all out war lol"
has nothing to do with the vtubers themselves, has to do with both companies announcing male auditions within hours of each other

>>75043824
This four shot FUCK

>>75062281
Anon didn't post the extended cut version.

>>75047513
they killed my wife erika

>>75062566
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D:
that's so weird, I think any one who streams events have never encountered anything like this before did you received a confirmation/OK sign to bilibili before uploading this AR live?

>>75065335
They both had open gender auditions the whole time. At this point NijiEN had already debuted two gens of males.

>>75041465
Well ,for starters doki lost

>>75063362
I like pomu, but I know she messed up that day.

>>75065719
Niji did not start doing open auditions until last month. The auditions they did announce were right on the heels of Luxiem's and Noctyx's huge success (at the time).
The Holo auditions announced on that date were specifically looking for males for Hololive english. Not a general "Reminder that we have open auditions going for Hololive!", rather "Male VTuber auditions for hololive English are now open!!!"

>>75065816
>Doki lost
>while 90% of this Nijis are 3views
Huh?

>>75065816
Where did all those 11k people watching the monopoly collab went to?

>>75065335
No, they were talking about hololive in general and even council was mentioned there.

>>75066187
Youtube bots are non-transferable to Twitch

>>75066268
>Nijifag talking about bots
lmao

>>75066231
Fulgur brought up Council, not Pomu.

>>75041570
So true! Everyone who a damn has returned and started streaming again! We just had an amazuhing concert with epic and fantastic performances! Nothing that Dookiepukiedoopeyfloopeykakapoopieturd could even hope to match! The future is going to epic!
>>75042028
Uh...No? They didn't nuke anyone. Everything has been going great. You should check out some streams sometime. You'll have a laugh and get some wholesome vibes.
>>75046096
Oh, he was just being a silly doko. He was fine and just needed to take a chilly pilly.

>>75060985
Don’t forget yagoo telling them in business speak to fuck off when one of them asked for private investor only events

>>75065816
Nijibro... I...

>>75065335
>luxiem/noctyx earn just as much as their successful JP livers
>council didn't do as good as they expected
>they were mad about niji
>hololive tech issues in shambles
>niji thriving

>>>>has nothing to do with the vtubers themselves

Man shut the fuck up you pathetic shill, that was blatantly an anti-holo circlejerk chat, not harmless objective live commentary about announcements.

>>75041997
The thing was that HoloEN still have a strong foundation to fall back to, which is HoloJP and its management
NijiEN literally has nothing

>>75066587
Rosemi...

>>75066759
rewarded as a traitor deserves

>>75066759
Lament not for the ones that choose their own suffering.

>>75066627
Fulgur & Vox's joke were the only ones not talking about the male auditions.
Pomu was commenting on how both companies announced auditions within hours of each other.
Finana's comment was explaining why Cover decided to announce auditions for english male vtubers. (because Niji's english males bring in a ton of money - makes perfectly logical business sense for Cover to look at that and do english male auditions of their own)
Shu only commented that he applied himself in the past.

>>75065335
>>75066353

pomudachis rewriting history strike again

>>74923262
>>74923252
>>74923937

>>75062228
>the Japanese are autistically into baseball
>Gundou doesn't know the rules of baseball
>posts on twitter, "can't you get someone off the field by throwing the ball at their head hard enough?"
>Japs want to rape Gundou because she doesn't know shit about baseball
>Niji dogezas to their Koshien sponsors & shareholders by terminating Gundou

Yeah, a total clout chased for sure

>>75066882
>ACKshually they were all literal schizos talking to themselves and not part of the same conversation
What's your endgame exactly?

dramafaggots trying to keep their shitpost alive
>>75066907

>linking his own posts
Now that's just sad. You lost dramaturd, Mint is doing better than ever and the leak didn't affect her even 1 bit.

>>75065816
>comparing a heavily advertised collab between major players to... Doki doing this?

Why are you even comparing vshojo to doki anyways? They don't have anything to do with each other.

>>75066963
Pomu's comment was at the top, meaning hers was the oldest. Pomu's comment was not based off what the others below her said.

>>75066907
pomucucks lmao

>>75065335
first of all her cohorts immediately go into ranting about council and then hololive in general, and it's not like she's stopping them more like she kicked it off, so you're making a very charitable assumption that she's thinking any differently when she goes into a mocking tone like that
second of all even with that assumption, who do you think you are where you treat someone else's activities as some kind of attack or offensive against your group, when again they literally dont ever talk like this about you

people act like pomu's some kind of pillar of niji EN as if she's like a sora or fubuki in hololive
but she's barely even a kanata, who is someone who rushed into the room when coco broke down crying on stream, and ended the stream for her and reassured the listeners the two will be okay and took her out to a meal afterward
ive never heard anything remotely similar from pomu even though so many more incidents happened in the company surrounding her
so yeah i just dont like her very much, feel free to correct me about anything to change my mind

>>75067075
>react slop
Oh how the mighty has fallen

>>75067094
That chat obviously didn't begin with Pomu as the first comment dumbass, it was a screenshot of the latest posts in that circlejerk. So when everyone has been shitting on hololive for the entire chat and Pomu is part of the latest comments saying "all out war", what do you think she was talking about? Your only defense is that she's a literal schizo talking to herself out of nowhere for no reason amongst a group chat.

>he has cuck images saved on his device
I accept your concession cuck obsessed 3rd worlder

>>75067035
>linking his own posts
NTA but even I know that's cope. Since I'm one of the ones he quoted
>>75066963
Have you... never been in a large chat room before? Like ever? Jesus christ there really are only like 3 of you sisters, isn't there?

>>75067144
>as opposed to Niji playing slop Chilla shit

>>75067277
I didn't even mention niji, good job having them live rent free in your head I guess?

>>75067265
Have you? Do you go into a thread about some vtuber-related announcement/event and start talking about something completely off topic all by yourself? Liek if there was a new holo branch announced, would you go into the thread about it and start saying "ALL OUT WAR LOL between phase and niji or something idk lol i'm so random xD haha i don't mean hololive!".

>>75067141
Commenting about how both companies announced auditions at the same time isn't a "kick off" to shit on the vtubers themselves, no matter how much you wish it to be.

>https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/hUubbkSr5U7RCGPh-kbwVQ/
Obsessed

>>75067379
>them
You aren't fooling anyone, Nijinig
How is Vox doing after that shitty outfit?

>>75046763
I don't like how cool Rosemi looks in this art. She is a dork and looks dumb and has a single iconic tooth.

>>75067236
>"all out war"
Why do you keep on cutting out the whole message? Say the whole thing. Purposely omitting the other words changes the meaning of the message.

>>75067144
Yeah she watched the creation video of one of the people who she commissioned for one of her auction items. The dolls came out so beautiful.

>>75067472
What a schizoid lmao, I guess that's what happens when you're a third world shitter

>>75067236
I’ve spent many an hour across dozens of threads trying to get that specific pomudachi to see reason, to no avail. It’s impossible for any of the organs to have been speaking negatively of their competition prior or after that screenshot, because somehow time and space confirms solely to that frame, at least according to him.

>>75067565
That's not the epic own you're thinking of and not even what I was implying anyway. Pomu did not declare all out war, she stated that niji and holo seem to be warring, in line with the tribalistic circlejerk topic of that chat. Exactly like the fags in pic related who did not declare war by themselves, but saw "signs of war" and went "YES YES YES LET'S GOOOO".

>>75041465
reminder this shitshow is only a single screenshot, imagine what these subhumans usually talk about in their trooncord server, holy shit

>>75067427
...Oh wow, you really haven't.
When chats get big enough for people to get drowned out, people tend to post their thoughts and then leave before anyone else actually responds. Sort of like the twitter you love to use. Notice how nobody ever posted twice in that entire reply chain?

>writing long ass paragraphs
lol you can tell the dramashitter is mad noone takes him seriously

>>75067472
BASED BASED BASED TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>>75067785
>she stated that niji and holo seem to be warring
And why did she think that? Because both companies announced male-focused auditions within hours of each other. Nothing about the vtubers themselves.

>>75067821
You're seriously saying a screenshot which was only big enough to hold 7 comments on the screen is actually the entire chat? And again, that they're all literal schizos talking about something completely irrelevant, off-topic and spontaneous with no prior context? You might as well say Pomu was actually blogging about some movie she was watching. You're an olympic gold medal hoop jumper.

>>75067259
keep crying pomucuck, vwhorejo is welcoming her with open arms

>>75065816
stop trying to use vshojo for your disgusting attacks on Doki

>>75067450
"it feels like an all out war right now
lol" as just a comment about audition announcements and not kicking off some sort of contentious discussion? this is what im saying with the absurdly charitable interpretations
you're also conveniently ignoring the first point i made which is that from how quickly the discussion devolved into dumping on council and hololive in general, it's clear that they had broader resentments going on
at least the other guy who replied to me was able to admit that pomu did something wrong there

>>75067472
easy trick just to make pomucucks seethe

>>75067943
She thought and said that because she's tribalistic, which is why she was part of that tribalistic chat. Nobody forced her to comment there and write those words. Craving blood from those announcements is something you would expect from a /vt/ tribalist shitposter, and lo and behold, Pomu does the exact same thing behind the scenes.

Day 132 into Niji's 3-day Special Dragon-correcting Operation

>>75068131
>as just a comment about audition announcements and not kicking off some sort of contentious discussion?
Yes?
Company A announces auditions
Hours later, Company B announces auditions for the same thing
"it feels like an all out war right now lol"
She didn't provide commentary on anything else.

>>75068053
You're right. I'm sure Mysta talking about how much he worries about his depression is related to hololive, too.
You're using that exact same small screencap to write off entire people off of a single line they typed.

>>75068249
KEK

>>75068373
Base-
>reddit
Go back

>b-b-but pomu still has friends in holo
This is such a bad cope because there is an anti-slander alliance between hololive and nijisanji yet the objectively slandering comments from Vox in that leaked chat didn't earn him any punishment whatsoever, meaning it's simply not common knowledge and hence Pomu's "friends" don't know her dark side.

>>75041465
Yes. I never tough that NijiEN will win, the signs were clear from the start that they are just in a viral phase, and will fall off fast. The moment they start to pop out generation after generation, it was clear to me that Niji has no actual plan for them, and just try to saturate the market, covering any nishe they can find. They found a niche with Luxiem, but that was all, the rest of their streamers had nothing out of the ordinary compared with the rest of the EN scene. The problem with this saturation strategy is that Anycolor failed at it again and again, and they should have learned from it. The main reason why they flopped in ID for example, was that in the time Hololive debuted 6 ID vtubers, Niji had over 30 I think. They got a small audience out of it, and divided it among 30 peoples, instead of investing in 3 peoples like Holo did, and let the brand grow around them, building a loyal fanbase that could be there for more. Same strategy also flopped in Korea. Basically Anycolor used that to take over the JP market in the early days when there was little competition, and they still think that's the key to success... kind of like how the Russian think that the key to winning a war, is having a shit ton of your soldiers die on the battlefield, because that's what worked for them in WWII.
So, to me, it was clear from the start that NijiEN won't be able to stay afloat long term. I expected the males to stay in a better position do, for longer, as they have virtually no real competition in that niche.

>>75068449
>the existence of a menhera in the server is proof no malice exists there

>>75068539
After the leak, Mori unfollowed Vox & Fulgur, and then ended up re-following Vox (but not Fulgur). Do you really think she wouldn't have let the other HoloEN girls know?

>>75068449
>the one guy not joining in the tribalism is one of the earlier graduations before the mass departures and drama
Where's the discrepancy? He didn't enjoy the shitty niji culture and got out early.

>>75068490
NIJISEETHE

>>75068696
It's none of her business. Do you know all the personal friends of your coworkers? Seems like she didn't even let management know because that literally breaks the holo-niji agreement.

>>75068792
>said the redditor
huh?

>>75068446
im waiting for the company B dms where it's revealed that they were thinking "it feels like we're in the middle of an all out war"
you're really doing a bad job proving to me that pomu is actually some good person
yeah she did a great job shitposting in a tribalistic group chat encouraging an argument about other vtubers instead of being the better person and not minding, maybe even encouraging the activities of other people
you still completely ignored the rest of my other points also

>>75068539
nigga the OP image was posted EVERYWHERE back when it happened 2 years ago. Here, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, everywhere. This leak was as common knowledge as you can get at the time

>>75068449
mysta already has his hands full of his own menhera problem than gossiping about others, while pomu is crying in jealousy like a typical women thinking luxiem will save them

>>75068835
Reddit hates nijisanji
NIJISEETHE

>vent channel

>>75068944
>/vt/rannie use reddit
Pottery

>>75068831
You don't think Mori would have let the other HoloEN girls (not "personal friends of coworkers", wtf is that about??) what NijiEN was saying about them? Especially since she ended up not re-following Fulgur since she didn't like what he said about Council? You may be retarded

>>75069070
You said she re-followed Vox yet you're saying you know what's going on inside that retarded head of hers?

>>75068696
What the fuck are you on? Do you think everywhere is ran like a high school?

>>75069070
*know what

>>75069144(me)
oh whoops I mislabeled my marine pictures. Fuck, now I have to find the right one.

>First ever meet and greet
Did she ever get to do any at Niji?

>>75069017
Oh I'm sorry did I ruin your nijinigger playground?

>>75069143
Considering Vox's comment was a joke based on something involving Mori herself, her re-following him just means she forgave him. But she didn't refollow Fulgur, meaning she probably didn't forgive him, especially since his comment was not about her, but her coworker friends.

>>75069280
I don't care about your fictional war, but you should certainly go back
Other boards should have the option of "posting vtubers outside of /vt/" to stop faggots like you spreading your cancer

>>75068748
Funny how "Pomu the idol lover" sure didn't have any issues with niji faggotry until they cockblocked her career and she found out the hard way that she was never going to be more than an accessory to the golden boys. I guess trying to fit in with the clique didn't pay off.

>>75069390
>speaking like /v/ermin would

>>75069390
Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say

>>75069340
And you're saying that someone who would forgive that faggot is a very logical person?

>>75069390
bruh...

>>75069468
At least there, people actually shit on redditors when someone post about it
Impressive how this board is even worse than /v/

>>75069538
This is a reddit board
seethe about it

>>75069428
She've lost a lot of gachis that day, right?

>>75069594
>This is a reddit board
I notice LMAO

>>75069630
Do nijicucks really?

>>75069622
*has

>>75069428
she probably think the boys will incline nijiEN to the moon together with her, it certainly can feel that way for a year with luxiem, and it didn't worked out so she bailed

>>75069696
Do /vt/cucks really?

>>75069622
which makes it even worse that Finana was the one who invited him without Pomu knowing, yet pomu took the fall since it was on her channel.

>>75069622
Yeah but she made new ones in the end by complaining about niji and farming drama saviorfags.

Reminder that Pomu tongued Riku's anus and had weekly college frat orgies with luca while they shitpost in their discord about Hololive. Pomucuckchis sure love to rewrite history huh? your damage control won't unfuck her fully filled holes lil pomucuckchi bros

>>75069514
Guess whose opinion matters in this?
Mori's
What did Mori do?
Refollow him.
She's the one who was wronged, and if she seemed to forgive him, then her thoughts on it actually do matter.

>>75069763
How would Finana fall any further, she’s a drooling retard that’s used to measure low CCV for the supposed “victors” of the all out war.

>>75069622
Not really. Some people complained but her superchats didn't take a hit

>>75069766
complaining about niji while in niji doesn't earn gachis, because giving her money would be giving money to niji

>>75069428
lol this, at the end of the day all the "Pomu wasn't being malicious when she said all out war" copes mean absolutely nothing when she factually still associated with the blatant anti-holo faggots who were shitting on her "friends", and only finally abandoned ship when she realized niji didn't give a shit about her, rather than any moral reasons

>>75056213
lol no,fyi holofan are not twitter user,those ppl that "leaving" holo for niji are the one who lived on twitter.

>>75070118
I mean her current indie persona, which is doing a bit better than Pomu (for now)

>>75066949
vspo, neo porte and hololive would have terminated gundou for that crap too, it was a retarded action made by a mentally challenged woman on edge who has past problems with management. gundou was lucky enough to get in niji jp as one of the first additions, but she was always a c4 bomb waiting to explode on riku's face.

>>75055623
>Nijisanji lost the battle but won the war.
oh yeah lets look at that sister,niji ID? dead,niji KR dead,niji IN? dead,niji EN literally sinking,meanwhile holo ID? still reigning,holo EN? still the top EN corpo,so which war you won again?

>matara,mint and doki are ahead of holoEN,let me fix that for you "ahead of nijiEN" there you go.

>>75065335
oh no sister,dont do that,why you left behind your fellow sister who fought the war and died?

>>75066541
I was that private investor btw.

>>75068835
>>said the redditor
those redditor are the nijinigger retardedanonchama

>>75068373
Thus will never stop been hilarious

>>75041465
If anything , people going too soft on the lackeys of the clique, pomu and rosemi

>>75041465
the war is over,holo win and claim the throne,literally at the top,even nijiJP are stuck and with EN bleeding the last branch outside of jp is sinking,holo thriving without even need to do anything.

>>75041465
You can't call war a massacre.

>>75065816
sister, at least compare her to the nijien 3views and not vshojo

>>75056851
You are a fucking idiot. What HQ is Cover building in California?

>>75069783
nijinigger fck off back to nyfco and leave pomu alone already

>>75065816
fucking stoner

>>75071875
It's a branch building meant for bulk merch shipments and maybe planning english events idk.

It's kind of funny, I got into vtubing through Fauna literally a month before this bombshell. At first I thought about entertaining Nijisanji since I really enjoyed Pomu and Elira. After the discord leak, I was completely turned off by them. I know a lot of folks who shared similar stories of initially viewing Nijisanji in either a moderate or even positive light but then completely swearing off them after this. Kind of crazy how one mistake permanently destroyed relations between the two corpos. Wonder if Pomu regrets it.

>>75041465
what a sad existance they are kek

>>75073496
>Before leak: HoloEN and NijiEN never collabed
>A few months after leak: Multiple HoloEN and NijiEN collabs
Doesn't seem like it destroyed any relations to me.

>>75073496
Niji internally drives an anti-holo culture and I'm surprised yagoo puts up with it. Maybe he's playing the long game and sees it as a way to make hololive look better by still acting friendly towards niji in spite of them always trying to shit on hololive.

>>75073496
youre not the only one
holo and niji fandoms actually used to get along and support each other to some degree, not seeing each other with rivalry much at all
i really think that discord leak was one of the biggest dividing lines that created lasting tribalism
(of course people here hated niji way earlier for their involvement in aloe's graduation but that somehow isn't really common knowledge)

>>75073772
>holo and niji fandoms actually used to get along and support each other to some degree
Maybe in the very clueless newfag EN fandoms, but nijisisters have been attacking hololive since the early JP days when they (correctly) identified hololive as a threat to their #1 corpo status.

>>75073772
nah man, back in the /jp/ days nijifags use to shit on hololive all the time, be it in concerts or numbers or whatever

>>75073644
I meant the fanbases. There's a massive schism between Niji and Holo fans that didn't exist to nearly the same extent before this stream. After it, however, things have never been the same. The majority of Holo viewers won't even entertain the thought of Niji like they do other corpos like Phase, Idol, or Vshojo.

>>75073913
The schism started even before the leak, with the chinks, fujos, kpopfags, and twittersisters destroying the NijiEN fanbase. Those types of fans are wholly incompatible with actual Vtuber fans.

>>75055623
>but won the war.
Not a single NijiEN organ would agree with you kek

>>75073769
literally yagoo has many problems but niji aint one of them
https://youtu.be/eQLU9KWtqUU?t=340
he answered in an interview basically that rather than niji being a rival, he doesnt even consider them to be in the same sphere and when asked what the biggest problems on his mind are, he focuses completely on things like market expansion, overseas development, matching employment to those goals, metaverse, market cap etc etc
I think this response is symbolic of how the people in hololive generally know they have better things to do than worry about competing with nijisanji

>>75054836
>anon learns what falseflagging is

>>75062852
What's even better is that it wasn't even a holo-centric event, they were just guests at a con and went through the effort to make a good impression. Compare that to rhapsody being specifically a niji thing, and charging over twice the amount for a scuffed karaoke stream

>>75070305
Yes sis we all know your oshi is the company and any former member instantly becomes a villain in your eyes

>>75070305
not wrong to have a problem with problematic management.

>>75068373
>backtracks after realizing it's gonna blow up on their face
Kek

>>75068373
Some of those posts are very blatantly written by women, amazing.

>>75055623
Niji pumped their own money into inflating the stock and the stock actually dropped lower pre buy back. You know nothing of finance other than number up or number down.

Not that any of that compares to their reputation in the shitter.

>>75073913
There wasn't. The only people who gave a shit were the schizos /here/
Outside of the sisters being scum, the more normal niji and holofans had a lot of overlap and it wasn't that big of a deal up until the selen thing when everyone dug in their heels (or left entirely in the case of niji's "normal" fans)

>>75041465
the "war" that Pomu was joking about was the race for the fujo demographic. Luxiem got first dibs.

In any case, the boys from both companies seem happy with their jobs. I assume it's a win win.

>>75073772
>Creates the all out war meme
>leaves before the war's climax

>>75041465
Our hero will beat the Nijis. They stand no chance.

>>75076108
Nah, I definitely saw a huge separation of the fanbases. Before you'd see chatters with Holo profile pics in Niji chats all the time. After the incident, it basically plummeted to zero.

>>75063362
are you ESL? She's referring to a "war" betweeen the companies fighting for talent. It's a compliment to the success of Luxiem that even Hololive was quickly gearing up to capture this new market.

Plus, Petra should be blamed for having that screen up while streaming, jesus.

>>75076108
I'd say the bleeding started with triple-whammy of AR Live's cancellation, the failed DMCA takedowns against fails, and Zaion's termination that all happened at the start of 2023. The Selen situation most definitely ripped the wound right open though

>>75076455
>fails
False*

>>75076455
Well yeah, but the selen thing is what turned it from "less people watching nijisanji" to "people are now actively fleeing from nijisanji"

>>75041465
Honestly, it's just like the anon that compared the situation to Dynasty Warriors said.

>>75049248
I think of this everytime nijifags bitch and falseflag and im reminded that they deserve no sympathy

>>75069783
heh

>>75041465
niji's are getting brutalized so yeah, its going as expected

As long as she lives rent free in Nijis heads they're always going to lose. She's moved on and hasn't mentioned them since the Black Stream but Nijis can't let it go so she's already won.

NijiEN was destined to fail because the main branch failed to instill a sense of unity and community.

Even when HoloEN was lagging behind, the hololive brand thrived in the west because fans continued to support the JP talents. Whether you were a takodachi or a deadbeat, chances were you were familiar with most of the JP talents and followed the different arcs that were happening at the time arcs, consuming hololive content and growing attached to the brand. Hell, even the CEO is a wholesome meme among fans.

I fucking dare you to find a NijiEN fan who can name more than 5 NijiJP organs. Most of them weren't even aware of last year's EN debuts. The sisters only care about what's right in front of them, so when their oshis stop streaming as much, start getting stale or fail to meet their expectations... they just move on.

Selen's drama killed the Nijisanji brand in the west, but they were already on decline for a long while already, and they were destined to become irrelevant.

>>75081205
>NijiEN was destined to fail because the main branch failed to instill a sense of unity and community.
They fucked up a lot, but I don't think this was the problem. If anything, that community was TOO fucking close to the point where they started being crabs and fucking over anybody who stood out too much.

>>75041465
>>75049248
Images that will be remembered for eternity

>>75059097
her mints are like that because she's a ghost

>>75041465
Well you are late, people have already pretty much finished looting nijiniggers corpse, they didn't last long but using wood stick against an orbital bombardement was the testimoty of the retardation who come with faggotry. And putting that stick in your ass have less shock value when you are nothing but a point of a screen you don't even need to look at because of auto aim.

>>75068373
lmao

>>75074638
The impression was so good that sites that usually don't bother with Vtubers came out a fan of it.

Meanwhile it was at least 3 days of non stop laughing about the Niji AR Live. Goddamn.

This has been a reddit board since Coco's "next meme" program, newchama.

>>75086612
Niji has always been a laughing stock, what's new? They watch and support slop, can't feel much sympathy for them.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

https://youtu.be/OnYwHyAtV3A?si=VyLzplQunwgeu_hx

>>75041465

>>75094580
BASED

>>75041465
Mysta coming in at the end to dump his depression is the funniest shit. I feel a bit sorry for him because it seems he didn't participate in the shittalking and just used the channel for its intended(?) purpose, but it's still funny.

>>75041465
The war never ends.

>>75091124
Congrats

>>75091124
kek

>>75041465
The Spanish branch of the jew corpo is already doing better numbers than Finana using a 3D debut as clout buff for her Valo collab
What do you think?

>>75056851
>Saying all this gibberish while supporting Niji, the literal actual BLACKED company fronted by a bunch of whores, some chink with an entire army of ugly chink fujoshitter fans, and a coalburning chink homosexual who screams about "FUCKIN Y-T DEVILS REEEEEE"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAAA FUCKING FAGGOT.

>>75073496
Pomu had the least to do with the leak and had the least offensive comment too. If anyone should feel guilty about this, it would be Petra because it was her fuck up. But everyone there should know better than to shittalk like that, even if they were on their own, private Discord channel. The fact that it took the Selen incident for everyone to realize they should allegedly watch what they say online (according to the Nijileaker, any incrementing posts have been wiped out and most livers will voice chat to avoid leaks) speaks volumes of how poorly prepared the talents were by management.

>>75041465

I think if nijiEN wants to actually recover they have to go full retard. Openly racist, go full gay, make the males left act out gay storylines on their streams. The women go k drama. Have Elira becomes a villainous young mistress with Enna and Millie as her henchwomen. Vox and Elira get betrothed. Debut a new girl to be a sweet self insert that vox loves more than Elira cus she's so great.

>>75076278
I kneel blue homo

>>75094580
She's good

>>75056851
Man, I really need some of that Extra-Strong copium that you are using.
Because holy shit...

>>75052534
ACCELERATE!

>>75091124
OH MAMMA MIA MAMMA MIA

>>75052534
Hell yeah!

>Meanwhile, in reality

>>75130992
yeah, I'm sure the fact that it was filmed in October really helped this. I'm sure even Selen had a call-in segment.

>>75116316
this, if vtubers want to do the wrestling kayfabe shit we need fewer faces and more heels. give me someone to root against

>>75133733
No this was recorded in March.

>>75133733
why would that be the case? according to the narrative, selen and ethyria hate each other, right? and selen's sections were removed from obsydia's 3Ds, so they obviously had time to remove stuff that was already recorded. but calli and nerissa's call-in is still there

>>75042954
What are you on about.
Guan yu was a sociopath who when given the option to leave and join a superior army and be deeply rewarded and become a rich billionaire
He said fuck that shit, bit the hand that fed him, went back to his old side then proceeded to get so full of himself that he called his allies pathetic mongrels then ignored orders to stay on defense to go get himself murdered thinking he was a one man army.
So clearly Guan Yu is MILLLE.

we can do better though.
Mysta was Xu Shu, sets up all his plans then defects because of his mom being threatened and being such a mommas boy.
Vox is zhang fei, constantly drunk on the praise he gets, Stupid and impatient that wants results now and likely will kidnap a 13 year old chinese girl to make his wife.
Elira is Liu bei, constantly shouting how she cares for everyone and the people then throwing her underage child Zaion head first to save face.
Selen is Wei Yan. Works hard and is a smart, tactical general, but her personality clashes with her 'boss' so despite being loyal to a fault is called a idiot and a traitor eventually being executed the second Pomu dies.
Finana is Bao Sanniang. Nobody gives a shit about her as she never really existed.

And it will end with everyone important retiring and the branch being dissolved quietly without so much as a murmur. Just like NijiKR and ID

>>75136675
Based loreCHAD

>>75041997
They never had a chance to begin with. Most of the huge surge of female tourists were never going to convert into a long term fan, especially not with these Niji talents anyway.

>>75130992
What's Reimu got to do with ALL OUT WAR?
I mean, she's a bootlicker like the rest of them, sure, but at least she's not as dumb nor as two-faced as Pomu, Vox, and fucking Fungus Covid

>>75136675
Who's Cao Cao in this analogy?

>>75136675
But if we wrote Hakka as Cao Cao as Ike as Guan Yu. We can have the scenario where Hakka is sad Ike is on the other side rather than with Wei, liike the novel. Though I can't imagine Cao Cao caring about the guy that much realistically.

>>75076278
himmel the hero i kneel